Meeting Title: Brainforge x Urban Stems Project Sync Date: 2025-08-08 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Caio Velasco
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1 00:00:39.950 ⇒ 00:00:40.720 Caio Velasco: I always.
2 00:00:47.760 ⇒ 00:00:49.419 Awaish Kumar: Hello! How are you?
3 00:00:52.060 ⇒ 00:00:53.079 Caio Velasco: Good. How are you?
4 00:00:53.430 ⇒ 00:00:53.940 Caio Velasco: I’m sorry.
5 00:00:53.940 ⇒ 00:00:54.830 Caio Velasco: Time is working
6 00:00:57.670 ⇒ 00:01:04.820 Awaish Kumar: How it’s been your day right? It’s already evening in the EU right.
7 00:01:06.630 ⇒ 00:01:10.699 Caio Velasco: Yeah, it’s like, actually, it’s lunchtime, 1, 30 now
8 00:01:10.960 ⇒ 00:01:13.359 Caio Velasco: or 2 30, depending on the time zone.
9 00:01:15.020 ⇒ 00:01:17.250 Awaish Kumar: Let me find out.
10 00:01:22.510 ⇒ 00:01:23.670 Awaish Kumar: sure
11 00:02:25.100 ⇒ 00:02:30.189 Awaish Kumar: and call it share a document here.
12 00:02:33.060 ⇒ 00:02:38.339 Awaish Kumar: so it is like we we just take like 5, 6 min to.
13 00:02:38.490 ⇒ 00:02:43.399 Awaish Kumar: so you can fill it out right, such as the feedback.
14 00:02:43.630 ⇒ 00:02:44.260 Awaish Kumar: So.
15 00:02:44.260 ⇒ 00:02:44.730 Caio Velasco: Okay.
16 00:02:44.730 ⇒ 00:02:51.989 Awaish Kumar: I I just forgot to send it earlier. So we just take 10 min of this meeting to fill that.
17 00:02:53.280 ⇒ 00:02:54.710 Caio Velasco: Okay, I’ll do it now.
18 00:03:11.210 ⇒ 00:03:15.400 Caio Velasco: could I? Do?
19 00:03:16.100 ⇒ 00:03:18.209 Caio Velasco: Which ones would I use.
20 00:03:18.820 ⇒ 00:03:22.630 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, there are 2 like one, because on the
21 00:03:23.200 ⇒ 00:03:26.389 Awaish Kumar: so I just copied we had previous one on one, for
22 00:03:26.720 ⇒ 00:03:37.590 Awaish Kumar: how can it’s changing in both places. I think I’m not sure why I mean just.
23 00:03:41.390 ⇒ 00:03:43.850 Caio Velasco: Should I? Just add new bullet points.
24 00:03:44.990 ⇒ 00:03:47.530 Awaish Kumar: Let me forget. You just do the new part.
25 00:03:56.990 ⇒ 00:03:59.199 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, just add.
26 00:04:00.660 ⇒ 00:04:04.969 Awaish Kumar: But Nope, I just get a new document. Just add everything in.
27 00:04:06.010 ⇒ 00:04:07.250 Caio Velasco: Okay, this new one.
28 00:04:16.079 ⇒ 00:04:18.809 Awaish Kumar: So yeah, it’s already filled. I just copied it. So
29 00:04:19.129 ⇒ 00:04:22.579 Awaish Kumar: just remove your old ones and.
30 00:04:23.360 ⇒ 00:04:25.970 Caio Velasco: Okay, possibly
31 00:09:40.020 ⇒ 00:09:42.690 Caio Velasco: up to the screen.
32 00:09:45.970 ⇒ 00:09:47.399 Caio Velasco: Yeah, I think the same
33 00:09:53.550 ⇒ 00:09:54.240 Caio Velasco: morning.
34 00:10:03.460 ⇒ 00:10:04.790 Caio Velasco: Think that’s it right?
35 00:10:06.340 ⇒ 00:10:07.040 Awaish Kumar: Sorry.
36 00:10:08.020 ⇒ 00:10:13.300 Caio Velasco: I think that’s it. I already did like the section. What.
37 00:10:13.520 ⇒ 00:10:17.630 Awaish Kumar: That’s okay, cool.
38 00:10:18.390 ⇒ 00:10:29.310 Awaish Kumar: I’ve I’ve read your comments. So that’s cool, like, you have learned a lot working on a distance.
39 00:10:29.920 ⇒ 00:10:35.158 Awaish Kumar: 10 regarding the unclear requirements and
40 00:10:36.170 ⇒ 00:10:41.260 Awaish Kumar: supporting the code. Yeah, like the answers you have given.
41 00:10:41.910 ⇒ 00:10:46.069 Awaish Kumar: about nuclear requirements. Like these. That’s like.
42 00:10:48.170 ⇒ 00:10:50.340 Awaish Kumar: So there are 2 points number one.
43 00:10:51.100 ⇒ 00:11:00.909 Awaish Kumar: No company or no project is going to be 100% clear in any, everywhere, like anywhere, if you go like, in a big companies or
44 00:11:01.743 ⇒ 00:11:08.010 Awaish Kumar: like enterprising. I’ve worked at a very big companies, not less
45 00:11:08.250 ⇒ 00:11:10.550 Awaish Kumar: clarity on what they are doing right?
46 00:11:10.730 ⇒ 00:11:11.440 Awaish Kumar: So.
47 00:11:11.440 ⇒ 00:11:11.820 Caio Velasco: Yes.
48 00:11:11.820 ⇒ 00:11:16.481 Awaish Kumar: Number one. So we expect, and we are in a startup environment.
49 00:11:17.100 ⇒ 00:11:24.259 Awaish Kumar: So I expect this that things are not going to be clear all the time.
50 00:11:24.410 ⇒ 00:11:29.649 Awaish Kumar: and even if maybe, like Amber is the project manager, for example. But
51 00:11:29.900 ⇒ 00:11:38.460 Awaish Kumar: maybe you have more understanding of things than her like. She’s more like, want to organize things for us. Right? Want us to.
52 00:11:39.030 ⇒ 00:11:47.499 Awaish Kumar: She wants to organize things so we can better implement it supported. But she might not have all the technical
53 00:11:47.710 ⇒ 00:11:49.990 Awaish Kumar: details of what’s going to happen.
54 00:11:50.320 ⇒ 00:11:52.309 Awaish Kumar: And so, like we.
55 00:11:52.690 ⇒ 00:11:58.760 Awaish Kumar: with her help, like, we can also guide her or help. So it is, it is going to be collaborative approach
56 00:11:58.920 ⇒ 00:12:00.770 Awaish Kumar: to make things more clear
57 00:12:01.343 ⇒ 00:12:14.369 Awaish Kumar: like. If if you don’t know the requirements like, then we have to like, you have to be proactive in in saying to Amber like whatever we have, it’s not enough, and I’m not able to move with this
58 00:12:14.880 ⇒ 00:12:19.850 Awaish Kumar: move forward. Right? So give me more requirements. I need some
59 00:12:20.280 ⇒ 00:12:23.280 Awaish Kumar: famutham or damn Ari or anyone.
60 00:12:23.480 ⇒ 00:12:29.089 Awaish Kumar: or to to clarify this we need to ask clients some clarification question.
61 00:12:29.500 ⇒ 00:12:34.849 Awaish Kumar: so that all needs to be said to to amber right
62 00:12:35.180 ⇒ 00:12:40.910 Awaish Kumar: like. If if you say let’s do, it does not mean like it. It has everything like it.
63 00:12:41.020 ⇒ 00:12:47.709 Awaish Kumar: She got a request. She created a ticket for us, whatever she had
64 00:12:47.940 ⇒ 00:12:56.019 Awaish Kumar: to share with the ticket, but it might not be like when we see it. We know that. Okay, like, it’s not enough for me to start right. It’s not
65 00:12:56.200 ⇒ 00:13:11.549 Awaish Kumar: in a in a, in a, in a better. It can be in a better position before we start this. So like, then comes like it’s a it’s a task of developer to like, give the context and all the all the ask right questions
66 00:13:12.144 ⇒ 00:13:18.709 Awaish Kumar: from the to the amber. So she can basically get those data, the requirements from the client.
67 00:13:19.218 ⇒ 00:13:26.770 Awaish Kumar: So that’s how it’s going to work, and it’s always like that. And even if we directly communicate with client that’s going to.
68 00:13:26.970 ⇒ 00:13:32.439 Awaish Kumar: that’s the the process going to be similar that it’s just an additional
69 00:13:33.400 ⇒ 00:13:47.469 Awaish Kumar: headache on us that, like we now have to refine our like on like in between us we can say anything in any tone right? It can be unprofessional or just vague writing. But when we are
70 00:13:47.850 ⇒ 00:14:04.699 Awaish Kumar: saying to client, then it needs to be polished. So that’s like what the project managers project manager does for us. We give her in any way that the requirements, and she polishes it and makes it appropriate to send it to client
71 00:14:05.000 ⇒ 00:14:07.929 Awaish Kumar: takes care of the tone and things like that.
72 00:14:08.300 ⇒ 00:14:11.140 Awaish Kumar: So it’s it’s just going to happen when
73 00:14:12.270 ⇒ 00:14:21.239 Awaish Kumar: in like, in a way like we are just asking for client like, okay, we have got something, and it’s not enough. Let’s give me this this and this. So yeah.
74 00:14:21.400 ⇒ 00:14:31.180 Awaish Kumar: and yeah, I expect I never expected to be like, you get 100 requirements, and you just go and execute. It’s not never going to happen
75 00:14:33.771 ⇒ 00:14:37.689 Awaish Kumar: and like not just at playful everywhere in the world.
76 00:14:37.990 ⇒ 00:14:44.649 Awaish Kumar: We need to ask the question to get more more and more information from time.
77 00:14:45.910 ⇒ 00:14:48.830 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. And for the support point.
78 00:14:48.960 ⇒ 00:14:56.090 Awaish Kumar: I understand you have wrote something regarding just the windstands. And you need more clear direction and things
79 00:14:56.260 ⇒ 00:15:03.600 Awaish Kumar: I’m asking or on a like on a higher level, not just on brand, like on other instance.
80 00:15:03.970 ⇒ 00:15:09.690 Awaish Kumar: like at company, like at brain force like, how can we better support your growth from like?
81 00:15:10.410 ⇒ 00:15:14.900 Awaish Kumar: Maybe you are, you are. You are a engineer, you learn some DVD modeling.
82 00:15:15.010 ⇒ 00:15:19.820 Awaish Kumar: But what next? What next? Like? How can maybe we do it?
83 00:15:20.570 ⇒ 00:15:27.979 Awaish Kumar: Do you need help with certifications, or did you want someone to give you
84 00:15:28.720 ⇒ 00:15:32.650 Awaish Kumar: like, you know? Maybe we start sharing sessions or whatever like.
85 00:15:33.540 ⇒ 00:15:39.800 Awaish Kumar: then which path you want to take from moving forward and things like that.
86 00:15:40.260 ⇒ 00:15:59.909 Awaish Kumar: So like the direction is going to like, that’s the direct direction. Part of the is part of like getting the requirement like that. You can ask Amber like, Okay, now, I’m done with my task. What is the next for me like? That’s the project manager manager which is going to
87 00:16:00.210 ⇒ 00:16:01.599 Awaish Kumar: give you more tasks.
88 00:16:01.950 ⇒ 00:16:07.869 Awaish Kumar: I’m here is more generic, probably broadly asking about you as a person
89 00:16:11.050 ⇒ 00:16:12.130 Awaish Kumar: you’re on mute.
90 00:16:15.230 ⇒ 00:16:17.050 Caio Velasco: Oh, I didn’t mute myself.
91 00:16:17.650 ⇒ 00:16:20.870 Caio Velasco: Yeah, no, I I get that. And
92 00:16:21.850 ⇒ 00:16:50.349 Caio Velasco: I think what I would like to get like support from. It’s more, for example, now that we are building the revenue mart for urban stems, it would be nice to participate on. For example, I’m creating the well, first, st the Tdd. The technical design document gave me clarity because I didn’t know that we were just basically getting a framework and trying to fit the solution in that framework. So the in fact.
93 00:16:50.500 ⇒ 00:17:15.779 Caio Velasco: raw stage Mars, I thought that we would probably get whatever they have and make it better. But we are actually kind of starting from scratch in a way so that gave me clarity to to know what steps are coming. But, for example, I’m doing the dimensions, and then I think the new term will do the facts, because it’s a bit more complicated, although I already kind of build my own fact tables just to see.
94 00:17:16.130 ⇒ 00:17:20.009 Caio Velasco: But I also like to know, for example, that after this project is done
95 00:17:20.250 ⇒ 00:17:40.849 Caio Velasco: I was able to create dims. I was able to create facts. I know how they behave. And then, if we need to do the duplication. Okay, I also know how it works. If we need to do Dbt tests. I also participated, so that I see everything that is happening and that I can grow within, you know, understanding Dbt understanding end to end pipeline.
96 00:17:40.960 ⇒ 00:17:45.499 Caio Velasco: I think that’s my expectation. I really would like to participate on those points.
97 00:17:45.980 ⇒ 00:17:54.039 Caio Velasco: because it’s not necessarily only for urban stems could be in the next time for another client, and I will feel more empowered to do it
98 00:17:54.420 ⇒ 00:17:58.360 Caio Velasco: more alone, let’s say, or to move forward quicker.
99 00:17:58.580 ⇒ 00:18:01.779 Caio Velasco: But yeah, that’s the for now that’s the expectation like
100 00:18:02.490 ⇒ 00:18:07.059 Caio Velasco: that would open doors for more dbt tools that I still have not used.
101 00:18:08.510 ⇒ 00:18:23.330 Caio Velasco: And yeah. And then I hope that when this is done with Durham. I have a very good grasp of Dbt modeling and data modeling in general. That’s my expectation. Then. Next, then I don’t know. Then it depends on what is on the table?
102 00:18:24.600 ⇒ 00:18:25.639 Caio Velasco: Yeah.
103 00:18:25.640 ⇒ 00:18:30.300 Awaish Kumar: Oh, like for for that like
104 00:18:30.660 ⇒ 00:18:37.479 Awaish Kumar: to have a better understanding right? Like I know that we are doing a lot of practical stuff. But then.
105 00:18:37.770 ⇒ 00:18:43.759 Awaish Kumar: then there is a theoretical knowledge as well, which can help you better design those
106 00:18:45.340 ⇒ 00:19:01.590 Awaish Kumar: better design modeling like we are not I. As an analytic analytics engineer. I just I don’t want that. All the aes which are on my team. Just I want them to be an analytics engineer, which is like
107 00:19:02.640 ⇒ 00:19:15.660 Awaish Kumar: like data warehouse model. Right? So how? Not just better. Right? Dbt, or SQL. Like, how to better architect the data warehouse? What are the different strategies we are going to use
108 00:19:16.130 ⇒ 00:19:22.050 Awaish Kumar: right right now. We don’t know like we, we just get a client. We don’t run from moral fax tips.
109 00:19:22.910 ⇒ 00:19:31.480 Awaish Kumar: It might not be necessary to like, have a start schema every time. Right? There are different types of modeling as well like we can better suggest
110 00:19:31.630 ⇒ 00:19:36.530 Awaish Kumar: to our client, based on their needs, so so probably.
111 00:19:36.530 ⇒ 00:19:37.220 Caio Velasco: This I don’t know.
112 00:19:37.220 ⇒ 00:19:43.479 Awaish Kumar: I want all sorts of people to have those have that knowledge right? But but
113 00:19:43.810 ⇒ 00:19:47.220 Awaish Kumar: for the Dbt itself, like, there is a lot of 3rd theory, which
114 00:19:47.720 ⇒ 00:19:51.440 Awaish Kumar: a lot of E members like we don’t know.
115 00:19:51.840 ⇒ 00:19:55.260 Awaish Kumar: And we know the practical stuff right? SQL, clean models.
116 00:19:55.620 ⇒ 00:19:57.730 Awaish Kumar: But then there’s comes a lot of
117 00:19:59.250 ⇒ 00:20:05.869 Awaish Kumar: knowledge there, which which there is in the talks whenever that certification.
118 00:20:06.080 ⇒ 00:20:06.946 Awaish Kumar: And then
119 00:20:07.540 ⇒ 00:20:17.750 Awaish Kumar: also, as a, as I mentioned the the data TV modeling right? That’s it is also one of the things right, not just the database modeling.
120 00:20:17.900 ⇒ 00:20:21.939 Awaish Kumar: So we can read some books on or some
121 00:20:22.120 ⇒ 00:20:25.490 Awaish Kumar: do some posts on that. So when you
122 00:20:25.960 ⇒ 00:20:33.959 Awaish Kumar: like, after some time, you’re just a a DVD expert, you are. You are a like analytics. Engineer.
123 00:20:35.680 ⇒ 00:20:49.300 Caio Velasco: Okay, yeah, that would be nice to do for sure. If if there is a way to make a little at some foundations and then can take a course or something. Yeah, that would be nice something more like on the theoretical perspective.
124 00:20:50.230 ⇒ 00:20:55.369 Awaish Kumar: Like we. I propose Mt, modeling first, st because that’s what we do like. We at least
125 00:20:55.480 ⇒ 00:21:04.940 Awaish Kumar: I have some technical knowledge about it. And then we from there. Next step would be going towards more understanding data warehouse like
126 00:21:05.120 ⇒ 00:21:13.100 Awaish Kumar: not not just ae for a DVD. But ae in general, like, how if I just I don’t know like we.
127 00:21:13.610 ⇒ 00:21:18.459 Awaish Kumar: if if a client comes in, we don’t care like what tools we are going to use.
128 00:21:18.650 ⇒ 00:21:26.470 Awaish Kumar: we 1st of all, the thing is like based on the requirement. What is the best possible calling we could do?
129 00:21:27.170 ⇒ 00:21:32.019 Awaish Kumar: Understood then, based on that, we are going to decide now what tools are going to
130 00:21:32.330 ⇒ 00:21:34.130 Awaish Kumar: fit in in our
131 00:21:34.804 ⇒ 00:21:41.535 Awaish Kumar: architecture we are like in our roadmap. Right? We might use tbt, might not? We might have to use
132 00:21:42.180 ⇒ 00:21:46.810 Awaish Kumar: snowflake, big curry redshift, whatever? Right? So
133 00:21:46.960 ⇒ 00:21:51.480 Awaish Kumar: that. But that is going to come from. If you are going to do some
134 00:21:51.810 ⇒ 00:21:55.260 Awaish Kumar: course certification book reading or something.
135 00:21:56.910 ⇒ 00:22:07.829 Awaish Kumar: and then we can have knowledge sharing sessions right if we say like, if you have a book. And, for example, you started reading some book, and I started reading someone, some other book, and
136 00:22:07.980 ⇒ 00:22:13.520 Awaish Kumar: then we could do like weekly or bi-weekly knowledge, sharing sessions where whatever you learn, just
137 00:22:14.027 ⇒ 00:22:16.740 Awaish Kumar: share that knowledge with everyone else. Right
138 00:22:19.110 ⇒ 00:22:24.230 Awaish Kumar: in that way. Right? It can be more collaborative and engaging.
139 00:22:25.150 ⇒ 00:22:27.049 Awaish Kumar: And so it gives you
140 00:22:27.748 ⇒ 00:22:33.249 Awaish Kumar: responsibility to read something. So you have to present something, everyone.
141 00:22:33.250 ⇒ 00:22:34.040 Caio Velasco: Yes.
142 00:22:37.120 ⇒ 00:22:39.887 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s from my side.
143 00:22:40.750 ⇒ 00:22:44.759 Awaish Kumar: And then the another thing is about the
144 00:22:45.100 ⇒ 00:22:51.029 Awaish Kumar: the development suite, like, as I mentioned, like the put like we don’t want. I don’t want at least that
145 00:22:51.380 ⇒ 00:22:56.360 Awaish Kumar: things are get get escalated to put them, and then we
146 00:22:56.750 ⇒ 00:22:58.749 Awaish Kumar: are able to do something like
147 00:23:01.320 ⇒ 00:23:04.279 Awaish Kumar: like, if we like, we don’t want.
148 00:23:04.410 ⇒ 00:23:14.318 Awaish Kumar: and that he’s the he’s he’s being the driving force for any project like. Why, why, we are not able to do it right when we don’t need his
149 00:23:15.490 ⇒ 00:23:22.620 Awaish Kumar: he had like we don’t want them to like come in, and then has to
150 00:23:23.090 ⇒ 00:23:29.970 Awaish Kumar: and escalate it, and then make it urgent thing, and then we all get involved in doing that like it should be us
151 00:23:30.270 ⇒ 00:23:42.680 Awaish Kumar: making an escalation right, even if we need autumn’s help. It should be us asking him to come on like we. I need this. Your help here like it should not be him saying.
152 00:23:43.150 ⇒ 00:23:49.010 Awaish Kumar: saying, Us that okay, you are blocked. I’m going to come in, and I’m going to help. It should not be that way.
153 00:23:50.440 ⇒ 00:23:53.000 Caio Velasco: Yeah, this is the difficult points to.
154 00:23:53.750 ⇒ 00:23:55.710 Awaish Kumar: To know when.
155 00:23:55.980 ⇒ 00:24:02.779 Caio Velasco: When this has to happen, because I don’t have the knowledge to know when this is needed.
156 00:24:03.207 ⇒ 00:24:07.669 Caio Velasco: For example, at some point with the revenue audit was taking a lot of time.
157 00:24:07.780 ⇒ 00:24:27.360 Caio Velasco: No one was really helping, because was very busy with the inventory, and then somehow, it got to your thumb, and then it’s like, Oh, but you don’t have a Tdd. A technical design. No, I don’t. So how are you doing? It’s like, I don’t know if I had this knowledge I would have asked first, st like, Hey, we need a Tdd, so we need you, Tom, so it’s very difficult to know something that you?
158 00:24:27.890 ⇒ 00:24:28.580 Caio Velasco: No, I can.
159 00:24:29.560 ⇒ 00:24:36.240 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s what we might need a policy defined.
160 00:24:36.650 ⇒ 00:24:37.859 Awaish Kumar: Call my play.
161 00:24:38.020 ⇒ 00:24:43.850 Awaish Kumar: So I would say, if you are assigned it. Now on the
162 00:24:44.580 ⇒ 00:24:48.402 Awaish Kumar: Andrew, this is my recommendation. I can like
163 00:24:49.843 ⇒ 00:24:57.999 Awaish Kumar: further, like I note it down. And further, take it, take it further. But right now, what I would suggest is, if you get a ticket.
164 00:24:58.300 ⇒ 00:25:03.399 Awaish Kumar: and you know, there’s not going to be any outcome at the end of the day or 2
165 00:25:04.760 ⇒ 00:25:12.279 Awaish Kumar: right to show to the client or show to the number. Then this is something where you need to escalate.
166 00:25:12.440 ⇒ 00:25:16.960 Awaish Kumar: You need to tell Amber that. Okay, I’m going to work on it, but maybe for a week
167 00:25:17.330 ⇒ 00:25:20.070 Awaish Kumar: there’s no output, or there’s no.
168 00:25:20.340 ⇒ 00:25:28.010 Awaish Kumar: there’s nothing that I can show something like it. Sometimes you have to work, which is just a back end stuff, right? But at least they need to know that
169 00:25:28.450 ⇒ 00:25:34.380 Awaish Kumar: they should not just come in and say, Okay, for one week. I didn’t saw your how good you were doing. Nothing right?
170 00:25:35.060 ⇒ 00:25:41.109 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. Sure, I said, that I’m working on something, and there’s no tangible outcome which I can show
171 00:25:41.480 ⇒ 00:25:45.369 Awaish Kumar: so how you want to measure it. It’s now up to you, right.
172 00:25:46.160 ⇒ 00:25:46.495 Caio Velasco: Yeah.
173 00:25:47.390 ⇒ 00:25:53.830 Awaish Kumar: So then it becomes the responsibility of lead or tech, lead or Pm.
174 00:25:53.940 ⇒ 00:25:58.280 Awaish Kumar: to measure your work and and to say, Okay, Kyle is working on this one.
175 00:25:58.460 ⇒ 00:26:07.609 Awaish Kumar: And the outcome is Xyz, right? Maybe it’s just a document, whatever it is, or whatever like Td, or
176 00:26:07.710 ⇒ 00:26:11.240 Awaish Kumar: or maybe we have some benefit of it. Right?
177 00:26:12.400 ⇒ 00:26:19.159 Awaish Kumar: So. But when you have a then someone comes in. Okay? And then he says, Okay, whatever your way is.
178 00:26:19.795 ⇒ 00:26:39.159 Awaish Kumar: We have a some better situations for it, and then that way we might reach to the some tangible output quick, quickly. So yeah, like, if you think like something you’re working on, and it’s and it’s not going to end up in a tangible output for the
179 00:26:39.500 ⇒ 00:26:42.649 Awaish Kumar: after spending some like 10 to 10 h.
180 00:26:42.800 ⇒ 00:26:44.716 Awaish Kumar: then just raise it like
181 00:26:47.310 ⇒ 00:26:53.579 Awaish Kumar: some way, right, maybe like a promotion talk that this is what I’ve done. This is pending.
182 00:26:54.410 ⇒ 00:26:58.399 Awaish Kumar: But if you need some help or clarity, or whatever.
183 00:26:59.650 ⇒ 00:27:01.869 Awaish Kumar: even if, for the, for example.
184 00:27:02.290 ⇒ 00:27:05.160 Awaish Kumar: duplication part like when we have a list of
185 00:27:05.290 ⇒ 00:27:11.350 Awaish Kumar: dashboard, might need to add ticket might need to send it to amber so she can
186 00:27:12.100 ⇒ 00:27:15.299 Awaish Kumar: create tickets. And then you work on those tickets like
187 00:27:15.700 ⇒ 00:27:17.939 Awaish Kumar: while, Julian, we are doing same thing, but
188 00:27:18.280 ⇒ 00:27:23.510 Awaish Kumar: without tickets. But we yeah, at least, having tickets. Give them a sense of the
189 00:27:25.820 ⇒ 00:27:34.239 Awaish Kumar: for the we are doing something for the clients as well like they see that. Okay, you are working on these tickets. At least there are tickets.
190 00:27:34.360 ⇒ 00:27:42.149 Awaish Kumar: Client is going to see. Okay, they’re doing some efforts. Otherwise they don’t know like what we are doing.
191 00:27:44.095 ⇒ 00:27:49.279 Caio Velasco: Okay, no, I got it. I got it. I’ll try like next time to be quicker in those one or 2 days.
192 00:27:51.210 ⇒ 00:27:58.950 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so yeah, we are at the end of the time. It was good, nice talking to you, and I know we didn’t
193 00:27:59.390 ⇒ 00:28:03.029 Awaish Kumar: had much time to talk, but I have an inquiry right now, so
194 00:28:03.670 ⇒ 00:28:08.190 Awaish Kumar: I will book another meeting sometime like where you get a chance to speak
195 00:28:08.590 ⇒ 00:28:10.549 Awaish Kumar: it. It was mostly me today.
196 00:28:11.490 ⇒ 00:28:17.930 Caio Velasco: No, no, but I think you got my point from the from what I wrote was was very exactly what I wanted to say.
197 00:28:18.250 ⇒ 00:28:26.640 Caio Velasco: Yeah, no, we can do it. Like, after I come back from from the holidays, we can have another one or a bit after. Yeah, no problem.
198 00:28:27.620 ⇒ 00:28:28.430 Caio Velasco: Where’s been.
199 00:28:28.430 ⇒ 00:28:28.890 Awaish Kumar: Thank you.
200 00:28:29.460 ⇒ 00:28:31.210 Caio Velasco: Thank you. Thank you. Always appreciate it.
201 00:28:32.160 ⇒ 00:28:33.150 Caio Velasco: Bye-bye.
202 00:28:33.150 ⇒ 00:28:34.540 Awaish Kumar: Have a nice vacation plan.
203 00:28:34.540 ⇒ 00:28:36.228 Caio Velasco: Have a nice day. Oh, thank you.