Meeting Title: Eden Standup Date: 2026-05-11 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Robert Tseng
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1 00:01:16.010 ⇒ 00:01:17.000 Robert Tseng: Hey, Wish.
2 00:01:21.850 ⇒ 00:01:22.700 Awaish Kumar: Hello.
3 00:01:31.170 ⇒ 00:01:39.159 Robert Tseng: Okay, looks like it’ll just be me and you. So, yeah, I mean, we’ll just kind of follow up quickly.
4 00:01:39.770 ⇒ 00:01:44.719 Robert Tseng: you ran Zoran’s, worker today, how did that go?
5 00:01:45.430 ⇒ 00:01:53.470 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, as mentioned, like, everything was fine. The recent data is coming in, deployment looks fine, and…
6 00:01:53.780 ⇒ 00:01:57.120 Awaish Kumar: like, worker also, I saw that there are new events coming in.
7 00:01:57.740 ⇒ 00:01:58.340 Robert Tseng: Okay.
8 00:01:59.960 ⇒ 00:02:08.149 Robert Tseng: Cool. And then, I know we’ve been talking to Adam, so let’s just kind of try to see if we can close that out, too.
9 00:02:08.410 ⇒ 00:02:09.080 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
10 00:02:09.940 ⇒ 00:02:14.180 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, he’s… yeah, do you understand his concern?
11 00:02:15.220 ⇒ 00:02:20.080 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I… I’m… I’m… I looked at the model, it’s just that, in the
12 00:02:20.330 ⇒ 00:02:27.060 Awaish Kumar: In the current logic, it depends on the UTM source right now, and… but he is mentioning that we can figure out using
13 00:02:27.390 ⇒ 00:02:29.760 Awaish Kumar: Click IDs and cookies and everything.
14 00:02:30.020 ⇒ 00:02:35.180 Awaish Kumar: And, for, like, attribution of orders, right? Yeah.
15 00:02:35.550 ⇒ 00:02:50.819 Awaish Kumar: For the click IDs, and if we… even if we use click IDs and everything, it’s just, like, few more orders. The large chunk of orders that can be attributed is using cookies. That is specifically, like, that’s why you see the large, large disparity.
16 00:02:50.980 ⇒ 00:02:53.480 Awaish Kumar: But the problem with cookies is that
17 00:02:53.590 ⇒ 00:02:59.529 Awaish Kumar: It can be present, like… it is not… it’s not a strong signal for activation.
18 00:03:03.060 ⇒ 00:03:10.099 Awaish Kumar: So I have replied that in a thread, like, with all the details. So if he approves, I can update the model, but
19 00:03:11.960 ⇒ 00:03:12.920 Awaish Kumar: Depends.
20 00:03:19.970 ⇒ 00:03:22.830 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, have you seen the reply?
21 00:03:23.430 ⇒ 00:03:25.039 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’ve seen your… I’ve seen the reply.
22 00:03:25.050 ⇒ 00:03:26.030 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
23 00:03:26.750 ⇒ 00:03:27.410 Robert Tseng: Okay.
24 00:03:27.660 ⇒ 00:03:37.180 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s, like, just a, like, fallback logic. If he approves that, okay, if he’s okay with using these cookies for attribution, we can use it.
25 00:03:43.530 ⇒ 00:03:50.800 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, so I think this is an example of, once again, like, he’s just running his AI thing, and then, like, it’s surfacing
26 00:03:51.300 ⇒ 00:04:01.420 Robert Tseng: ideas, and then we basically need to review it and see if we want to adopt it, right? So, I think this is an example where he’s gonna be opinionated.
27 00:04:01.650 ⇒ 00:04:02.830 Awaish Kumar: That’s like…
28 00:04:02.830 ⇒ 00:04:22.090 Robert Tseng: doing something, and then we’re… yeah, we’re going back and forth to try to confirm if that’s what actually… the change that he actually wants. So, I mean, is this… is this the process we want to keep up? Like, I would rather him do this on a PR instead of, like, hitting me on Slack, right? Like, I… there’s just, like… but I… I expect more of this, right?
29 00:04:23.050 ⇒ 00:04:29.770 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, for, like, this, and obviously, he can go through the PR for the… once he has the…
30 00:04:29.900 ⇒ 00:04:41.579 Awaish Kumar: once he moves to the… our analytics repo that we have suggested, right, he will have access to everything of our dbt models, our, like, code. He can directly push PRs there, and we can approve, review and approve there.
31 00:04:42.710 ⇒ 00:04:43.360 Robert Tseng: Okay.
32 00:04:43.820 ⇒ 00:04:44.490 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
33 00:04:45.150 ⇒ 00:04:47.779 Awaish Kumar: So I have already moved the code to Analytics Repo.
34 00:04:47.900 ⇒ 00:04:53.759 Awaish Kumar: Now it’s just, like, we have to ensure that he moves on into using that repository.
35 00:04:59.040 ⇒ 00:04:59.710 Robert Tseng: Okay.
36 00:05:05.300 ⇒ 00:05:08.039 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna say, Adam, this is typically…
37 00:05:08.570 ⇒ 00:05:11.549 Robert Tseng: a convo we have in PR review.
38 00:05:13.470 ⇒ 00:05:14.390 Robert Tseng: Wish.
39 00:05:16.290 ⇒ 00:05:17.800 Robert Tseng: Right, slide.
40 00:05:19.560 ⇒ 00:05:23.459 Awaish Kumar: But also, there are two things, right? One, we are discussing a single model.
41 00:05:24.120 ⇒ 00:05:26.790 Awaish Kumar: Then second thing is about more of a…
42 00:05:27.520 ⇒ 00:05:30.139 Awaish Kumar: A change in the process itself, right?
43 00:05:32.910 ⇒ 00:05:42.099 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, I mean, I want to use this as, like, a teaching moment, like, a kind of a coaching moment for him, because I don’t… I don’t want to have this conversation with him over Slack. To me, Slack is like…
44 00:05:42.820 ⇒ 00:05:46.010 Robert Tseng: If he has an idea, and he wants to go dig into it, like, don’t…
45 00:05:46.410 ⇒ 00:05:56.860 Robert Tseng: I mean, you’re kind of separating these two things right now, which… but I just… I’m trying to move him, be like, hey, go use this process that we’ve set up, yeah.
46 00:06:00.600 ⇒ 00:06:06.500 Robert Tseng: This is typically a combo we have in PR review, non-random Slack threads. If… one, if you could adopt the…
47 00:06:07.140 ⇒ 00:06:20.160 Robert Tseng: The process mentioned… other threads that I mentioned above that would help us consolidate fragmented
48 00:06:21.120 ⇒ 00:06:35.310 Robert Tseng: Reds. A wish has already… Provided the… Impact of your change, and… Is asking for approval.
49 00:06:36.600 ⇒ 00:06:40.669 Robert Tseng: This is all part of standard CICD.
50 00:06:40.940 ⇒ 00:06:42.590 Robert Tseng: that we…
51 00:06:51.050 ⇒ 00:06:54.010 Robert Tseng: as your AI workflow.
52 00:06:54.880 ⇒ 00:06:57.080 Robert Tseng: Suggest new changes.
53 00:06:58.530 ⇒ 00:07:09.389 Robert Tseng: Okay, so, like, this is gonna be my literal default answer. I’m literally gonna keep telling him to try to adopt the process. I mean, you can review that message I just sent him, but, like, that…
54 00:07:09.830 ⇒ 00:07:15.210 Robert Tseng: Right, like, we basically had 5… oh, I realize I’m not sharing my screen.
55 00:07:17.900 ⇒ 00:07:35.040 Robert Tseng: Right, I’m just trying to do, like, a process review here, right? I get pinged randomly this morning. We have 5 separate messages, all talking about the same thing. They should all be one single, like, should all be part of a PR review, a single thread, managed in the Git CICD process that we have.
56 00:07:35.130 ⇒ 00:07:45.569 Robert Tseng: And, yeah, like, we don’t feel… I don’t feel like this is necessary to triage over Slack. This is just, like, kind of a useless way… it’s kind of… this is not what Slack is for.
57 00:07:46.670 ⇒ 00:07:47.540 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, okay.
58 00:07:49.250 ⇒ 00:08:05.490 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. So, I mean, I’m gonna keep… I’m gonna keep telling him to… to move over to that, but… alright, so that’s… that’s… that’s clear. Yeah, what do we… what else do we have coming up for… for the week, I guess is kind of my next question. Let’s just kind of review the tickets and kind of get some of this planned out.
59 00:08:06.730 ⇒ 00:08:16.509 Awaish Kumar: for me is, so we don’t have net new, like, kind of analytics type of work right now, so I’m just working… once I’m unblocked on the Cloudflare worker,
60 00:08:16.970 ⇒ 00:08:21.919 Awaish Kumar: I’m going to set up CICD, And then,
61 00:08:22.620 ⇒ 00:08:27.100 Awaish Kumar: And also, he needs to push the latest code on… for the cloud workers, because…
62 00:08:27.340 ⇒ 00:08:35.640 Awaish Kumar: they just deploy the changes from their local machine, and it’s not in GitHub. So if now I deploy anything from GitHub.
63 00:08:35.850 ⇒ 00:08:37.600 Awaish Kumar: It will reverse their tedious.
64 00:08:38.370 ⇒ 00:08:45.640 Awaish Kumar: So I’m… the second ask in my message is also that they need to push the latest code that they have already deployed.
65 00:08:46.530 ⇒ 00:08:53.130 Awaish Kumar: So, once I get these two things, I can set up CICD, and
66 00:08:53.570 ⇒ 00:08:58.380 Awaish Kumar: After that, we will have… like,
67 00:08:59.030 ⇒ 00:09:02.689 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, then once Zoran is back.
68 00:09:03.310 ⇒ 00:09:10.529 Awaish Kumar: We can just, revoke their permissions, like, or maybe, like, kind of reduce the permissions.
69 00:09:10.690 ⇒ 00:09:19.700 Awaish Kumar: for direct deployments, so everything goes from CIVD for cloud framework. That’s the first step that, we…
70 00:09:20.320 ⇒ 00:09:26.099 Awaish Kumar: We’ll move… as part of CSD, DPD models are already like that.
71 00:09:26.210 ⇒ 00:09:31.899 Awaish Kumar: Second step for governance, after that will be, like, managing BigQuery access.
72 00:09:32.050 ⇒ 00:09:36.679 Awaish Kumar: So right now, on the BigQuery also, we are just, like, a user is using it.
73 00:09:36.910 ⇒ 00:09:45.560 Awaish Kumar: Right now, we don’t have a proper ownership. We are not the one managing IAM roles for that, and our account does not have that access.
74 00:09:47.000 ⇒ 00:09:50.360 Awaish Kumar: If we want to have clear governance over BigQuery.
75 00:09:50.560 ⇒ 00:09:56.289 Awaish Kumar: We need to also own that, become the owners, and then manage the access control.
76 00:09:59.350 ⇒ 00:10:03.149 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I heard you. You’re just repeating what you wrote to Adam.
77 00:10:05.600 ⇒ 00:10:06.849 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah, that’s…
78 00:10:08.640 ⇒ 00:10:15.900 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s… these are the steps, like, that I need to do after I get unblocked. Okay. Second step is.
79 00:10:15.900 ⇒ 00:10:16.240 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
80 00:10:16.240 ⇒ 00:10:17.979 Awaish Kumar: the carry I was mentioning.
81 00:10:18.380 ⇒ 00:10:20.270 Awaish Kumar: That is different from my message.
82 00:10:21.800 ⇒ 00:10:39.979 Robert Tseng: Oh, okay, sorry, I might have missed that while I was kind of writing the messages. But, yeah, I’m just trying to, like, kind of stay on track with what we had… what I had pitched out for… I basically took this project plan and turned it into tickets. So, I actually kind of feel like this is a good opportunity. Things are maybe a little bit slower right now on…
83 00:10:39.980 ⇒ 00:10:53.899 Robert Tseng: on Eden, but, like, I want to package what we’re doing up so I can go and pitch this. So I think this is a good playbook for you to build out, right? But in order to do that, we need to have the documentation for defining what these things are.
84 00:10:54.060 ⇒ 00:10:55.480 Robert Tseng: So…
85 00:10:55.750 ⇒ 00:11:05.639 Robert Tseng: yeah, I guess, like, if you want, we can run through each of these, but I feel like I already broke it out into tickets. I think if all of these were completed.
86 00:11:05.640 ⇒ 00:11:20.989 Robert Tseng: I should have a playbook that I can go and talk to another brand. Like, I was talking to another brand last week, and I was telling them, hey, look, we’re working with a brand, I didn’t say Eden, but I was like, you know, they’re super… they’re super into AI, they’re just using AI coding now.
87 00:11:20.990 ⇒ 00:11:30.790 Robert Tseng: our engagement with them pretty much just looks like a data governance and strategy engagement, where they let their AI agents just do whatever they want, and we kind of help
88 00:11:30.960 ⇒ 00:11:42.630 Robert Tseng: like, shepherd what changes actually get pushed to production, and we’re able to manage the infrastructure in a way that doesn’t break. That was interesting to them. They were like, oh, that’s… like, I don’t think they would go…
89 00:11:42.730 ⇒ 00:11:48.159 Robert Tseng: I don’t think they would necessarily go that far, but if you think about it, we have… we have clients on two ends of the spectrum.
90 00:11:48.700 ⇒ 00:11:56.390 Robert Tseng: on… on one side, we have Eden, who pretty much is just, like, not using… they’re just using AI for everything now, or at least that’s what they’re trying to do.
91 00:11:56.500 ⇒ 00:12:06.039 Robert Tseng: And that’s… that’s our engagement. On the other side, we have Element. Element does absolutely no AI, makes us do everything kind of, like, very deliberately, step by step.
92 00:12:06.110 ⇒ 00:12:21.039 Robert Tseng: And that’s maybe more of the traditional data engineering kind of engagement that we were used to. And so I think, like, what’s unique about Brain Forge is that we’re able to support both ends of the spectrum, and be able to meet clients where they’re at, and kind of
93 00:12:21.130 ⇒ 00:12:27.880 Robert Tseng: move them along if they want to increase their AI adoption. Do you understand? Like, that’s the kind of story that I’m trying to tell to brands now.
94 00:12:27.880 ⇒ 00:12:28.900 Awaish Kumar: No, yep.
95 00:12:28.900 ⇒ 00:12:29.470 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
96 00:12:30.030 ⇒ 00:12:47.179 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. So, yeah, I mean, I think, like, the… the advantage of doing… being able to do this with Eden is that, like, I’m sure nobody is running engagements like this, so I do think that, like, really flushing this out is, like, we… this… this… yeah, this… this would be fantastic. I’d love to go and…
97 00:12:47.340 ⇒ 00:13:02.569 Robert Tseng: I think I have a dinner scheduled next month, where they’re gonna… they invited me to kind of speak to a bunch of brands. They’re all kind of similarly eaten size. They’re gonna try to fill a room with about 20, 25 brands. I want to be able to pitch the…
98 00:13:02.660 ⇒ 00:13:17.719 Robert Tseng: this is Brainforge’s, like, AI, like, MarTech delivery service for consumer brands, right? So, like, I’m just telling you that there is, like, a pitch that I’m trying to work towards here, from putting together this playbook.
99 00:13:19.690 ⇒ 00:13:20.450 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
100 00:13:20.810 ⇒ 00:13:30.760 Awaish Kumar: I have only a few things, although this, like, this is exactly what we’re doing on GitHub, adding checks, role-based access on our.
101 00:13:31.000 ⇒ 00:13:31.670 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
102 00:13:31.670 ⇒ 00:13:36.539 Awaish Kumar: tools like Cloudflare, and then managing IAM access on BigQuery.
103 00:13:37.190 ⇒ 00:13:40.159 Awaish Kumar: But, like, for the segment assets, we are not yet
104 00:13:40.750 ⇒ 00:13:45.139 Awaish Kumar: creating directly from code. We are using UI to do that.
105 00:13:45.370 ⇒ 00:13:48.920 Awaish Kumar: Right now, like, we are going to,
106 00:13:49.170 ⇒ 00:13:53.579 Awaish Kumar: We are going to do, like, continue doing that for Eden right now, I think so.
107 00:13:54.150 ⇒ 00:13:57.349 Awaish Kumar: Or do you want me to, like, move it entirely into code?
108 00:13:58.170 ⇒ 00:14:17.709 Robert Tseng: I mean, I think they want to continue to use the UI, because they have, like, Ryan on their team that’s, like, checking it, but, like, I think that’s a great point. I think that’s very much part of the offering, that, like, hey, we could do this all from code, so even if we’re not doing this for Eden today, like, I do think that’s a capability I want to be able to share.
109 00:14:18.120 ⇒ 00:14:18.940 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
110 00:14:19.220 ⇒ 00:14:37.160 Robert Tseng: Yeah, in this… in this playbook. So, I know, like, we’re… we’re servicing Eden, but, like, to me, like, the purpose of doing this is so that we have a playbook that I can go sell to others. So, yeah, I think those are… these are… these are great, kind of, considerations that you’re bringing up, and we should…
111 00:14:37.350 ⇒ 00:14:40.079 Robert Tseng: I think we should have, like, an,
112 00:14:40.240 ⇒ 00:14:48.800 Robert Tseng: we should be aiming for the do everything from code, but also give brands the choice that, like, hey, if you’re not comfortable doing the CDP part.
113 00:14:48.800 ⇒ 00:15:06.760 Robert Tseng: from code, then maybe you need to adopt a tool like Segment, and you can use the UI, this is how you do it, this is how we’ve seen brands do it. But if you want us to do it completely from code, you don’t want anybody on your team managing it, then we would maybe use something more like a rudder stack that’s more like… or, I mean, I think Segment, you can also do it straight from code as well.
114 00:15:07.100 ⇒ 00:15:21.840 Robert Tseng: But, like, those are the types of trade-offs that if a brand were to talk to me in more depth about, like, Robert, I really like what you described, like, how do we implement this? Like, I want to go through this checklist with them and better understand how much of it do they want us to actually run?
115 00:15:21.840 ⇒ 00:15:28.570 Robert Tseng: Via… via code and, you know, in this way, or are they gonna want it a little bit more hands-on with the tools?
116 00:15:30.000 ⇒ 00:15:30.720 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
117 00:15:31.150 ⇒ 00:15:31.700 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
118 00:15:33.080 ⇒ 00:15:37.439 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I can work on creating playbooks on the side. Okay.
119 00:15:38.020 ⇒ 00:15:45.900 Robert Tseng: Cool. Yeah, so if you don’t… I know, if you… I’ve tried to… if you could just try to clear out these tickets,
120 00:15:46.630 ⇒ 00:16:06.140 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I think these are all the steps to kind of… you already went ahead and did those steps, so we’re kind of working backwards a bit, and you’re, like, kind of going back in here, you know, updating, publishing your changes that you made here, but, like, I would like to… because I’m going to be ultimately… I think it’s cleaner if we take the linear tickets, and we build a playbook from that.
121 00:16:06.140 ⇒ 00:16:20.150 Robert Tseng: Rather than always, like, kind of writing it straight from the Google Doc like you were doing before. So, I got… yeah, so I… if you could… if you could go in and update things here, I think you’ve already done most of it at this point.
122 00:16:20.190 ⇒ 00:16:27.360 Robert Tseng: At least for Phase 1, and then we’re gonna move… we have to keep moving, moving, moving through this. So,
123 00:16:27.600 ⇒ 00:16:35.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think that’s… that’s my… that’s my feedback to you, that, like, really what you’re putting together is… is this kind of…
124 00:16:36.810 ⇒ 00:16:46.829 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean, you’re delivering on this project, but also you’re turning it… like, by completing it, you’re turning it into a playbook that I can go and sell to other brands.
125 00:16:48.350 ⇒ 00:16:48.980 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
126 00:16:50.410 ⇒ 00:16:51.630 Robert Tseng: Cool.
127 00:16:52.100 ⇒ 00:16:56.930 Awaish Kumar: Have you seen that for… I created it for playbooks and offers on platform?
128 00:16:57.690 ⇒ 00:17:02.189 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I saw, like, you had a message, that you shared in… was it.
129 00:17:02.190 ⇒ 00:17:09.990 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s more visibility for everybody, like, if you want, like, we can create playbooks and the offer for this
130 00:17:10.160 ⇒ 00:17:14.069 Awaish Kumar: Same, like, engagement, and then publish it on platform.
131 00:17:15.579 ⇒ 00:17:18.189 Robert Tseng: Yeah, sorry, I don’t even know where you put it.
132 00:17:18.790 ⇒ 00:17:20.530 Awaish Kumar: Engineering channel, yeah, I put it in.
133 00:17:20.530 ⇒ 00:17:21.390 Robert Tseng: engineering.
134 00:17:23.329 ⇒ 00:17:27.110 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so… okay, maybe I could just take a look at this.
135 00:17:31.130 ⇒ 00:17:32.700 Robert Tseng: extra chat experience.
136 00:17:35.310 ⇒ 00:17:36.140 Robert Tseng: Okay.
137 00:17:38.860 ⇒ 00:17:42.349 Robert Tseng: Sure, yeah, I mean, I think this is exactly… this is exactly it, but…
138 00:17:44.080 ⇒ 00:17:56.760 Robert Tseng: you’re basically turning, you know, what I have here, turning it into… I mean, you’re executing it, obviously, for… for Eden, and then, like, being able to turn it into a more generalized offer that I could… that I could use. Yeah.
139 00:17:59.960 ⇒ 00:18:10.450 Robert Tseng: But I feel like what you’re gonna have is gonna be more in-depth, like, I mean, this goes at the ticket level, which is great, and so we have that here as well. So, yeah, I think between, you know, this…
140 00:18:10.780 ⇒ 00:18:19.110 Robert Tseng: this doc… The tickets that we’ve created already, like, you should be able to pretty easily produce
141 00:18:19.360 ⇒ 00:18:22.470 Robert Tseng: Something like this, you know, by the end.
142 00:18:22.930 ⇒ 00:18:23.720 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah.
143 00:18:24.190 ⇒ 00:18:24.730 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
144 00:18:24.900 ⇒ 00:18:26.420 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool.
145 00:18:26.570 ⇒ 00:18:32.279 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think, like, other things that I see coming ahead,
146 00:18:32.760 ⇒ 00:18:43.840 Robert Tseng: Well, I mean, frankly, I’m just… I want to get some… I want to get started on, Sunstone, so I’m okay with keeping Eden quiet for… for a bit. I mean, we just… we’re just gonna keep doing…
147 00:18:43.920 ⇒ 00:18:56.400 Robert Tseng: I don’t want to add… I’m not saying yes to anything else on Eden right now, unless they really press me to. So, yeah, I don’t really think I’m going to spend much more time on Eden today. I’m just going to be spending time on Sunstone in the afternoon.
148 00:18:58.190 ⇒ 00:19:01.979 Awaish Kumar: Okay, sure, I also have to look at some stone things.
149 00:19:02.840 ⇒ 00:19:03.629 Awaish Kumar: Before the orders.
150 00:19:03.630 ⇒ 00:19:04.200 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
151 00:19:05.780 ⇒ 00:19:21.789 Robert Tseng: Yeah, because we’re going to need that architecture diagram by… by tomorrow. So, I mean, I will follow up probably within an hour on, kind of, like, things that I’ll need there, because I have a check-in call with Jake in the morning, and then… and then the kickoff is, like, a few hours afterwards, so we do… we do have to get… get going there.
152 00:19:22.770 ⇒ 00:19:23.970 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so, okay.
153 00:19:24.110 ⇒ 00:19:26.919 Awaish Kumar: You need architect diagram by tomorrow?
154 00:19:28.080 ⇒ 00:19:28.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
155 00:19:30.000 ⇒ 00:19:43.809 Robert Tseng: at least, like, it’s just like a draft, like, I need… I need an artifact to be able to, like, show to the stakeholders and start telling them, hey, this is our understanding of what things are, like, what do you think? And, like, it’s more of a conversation tool, doesn’t have to be, like.
156 00:19:43.980 ⇒ 00:19:48.630 Robert Tseng: But yeah, like, I think that’s what I had said, that we would have that ready by tomorrow.
157 00:19:49.510 ⇒ 00:19:50.210 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
158 00:19:50.600 ⇒ 00:19:51.340 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
159 00:19:53.760 ⇒ 00:19:59.839 Robert Tseng: Okay, I don’t want to get the transcript confused, I’m not going to say too much more on Sunstone right now, but but yeah.
160 00:20:02.170 ⇒ 00:20:03.269 Awaish Kumar: Alright, thank you.
161 00:20:03.560 ⇒ 00:20:04.970 Robert Tseng: Okay, talk to you later. Bye.