Meeting Title: Davis Dunham’s Lunch & Learn Date: 2026-05-07 Meeting participants: Davis Dunham, Demilade Agboola, Kaela Gallagher, Amber Lin
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1 00:01:52.250 ⇒ 00:01:53.420 Davis Dunham: What’s up, Demi?
2 00:01:53.710 ⇒ 00:01:54.670 Davis Dunham: Nice to meet you.
3 00:01:54.670 ⇒ 00:01:56.319 Demilade Agboola: Nice to meet you, how are you?
4 00:01:58.940 ⇒ 00:02:01.339 Davis Dunham: Wait that one more time? Sorry, my volume is low.
5 00:02:01.650 ⇒ 00:02:04.119 Demilade Agboola: I said, hi Davis, nice to meet you, how are you?
6 00:02:04.120 ⇒ 00:02:09.880 Davis Dunham: Doing well, doing well. Just getting myself set up here and waiting for some more people to show up.
7 00:02:09.880 ⇒ 00:02:11.019 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good.
8 00:02:14.120 ⇒ 00:02:17.839 Demilade Agboola: I’m actually grabbing lunch, so I’ll be off-cam, so…
9 00:02:17.840 ⇒ 00:02:26.510 Davis Dunham: Heard, no problem at all. That was the goal. Y’all can, what’s up, Kyle?
10 00:02:28.320 ⇒ 00:02:29.400 Kaela Gallagher: Hey, hey!
11 00:02:32.170 ⇒ 00:02:33.689 Davis Dunham: Let’s see here…
12 00:02:40.820 ⇒ 00:02:45.749 Davis Dunham: I think… The last person… there we go.
13 00:02:48.090 ⇒ 00:02:49.200 Amber Lin: Hi!
14 00:02:49.610 ⇒ 00:02:51.130 Davis Dunham: Hi, Amber.
15 00:02:54.170 ⇒ 00:02:59.590 Davis Dunham: Oh, y’all, so… If everyone is ready, I’ll go ahead and start.
16 00:03:00.190 ⇒ 00:03:01.080 Amber Lin: Okay.
17 00:03:01.280 ⇒ 00:03:03.560 Amber Lin: What’s our plan for the topic today?
18 00:03:03.870 ⇒ 00:03:13.579 Davis Dunham: So, I don’t honestly don’t have a ton, scheduled maybe 30 minutes, but honestly, this should take maybe 10. This is gonna be, like, a really short and simple…
19 00:03:13.660 ⇒ 00:03:16.700 Davis Dunham: training session on what I know about
20 00:03:16.770 ⇒ 00:03:35.260 Davis Dunham: essentially just, like, converting contacts to linear tickets, and also a skill that I created, as well as one that Brielle created, to make this easier for people to do. And then Amber, I know you also had questions about long-running agents.
21 00:03:36.140 ⇒ 00:03:42.420 Davis Dunham: I did a bit of research, and we have some tools, but we are,
22 00:03:43.570 ⇒ 00:03:47.190 Davis Dunham: Mildly constrained by the harnesses we’re using right now.
23 00:03:47.190 ⇒ 00:03:48.180 Amber Lin: Mmm, okay.
24 00:03:48.180 ⇒ 00:03:52.080 Davis Dunham: I do have an option for you to try, I have not…
25 00:03:52.240 ⇒ 00:04:00.239 Davis Dunham: tried it myself yet, but I’d love to hear feedback from you on how it works for you. And then at some point, the long-term goal is to
26 00:04:00.420 ⇒ 00:04:04.599 Davis Dunham: Have more control and have, like, a custom harness that y’all get.
27 00:04:04.980 ⇒ 00:04:06.180 Amber Lin: Cool, okay.
28 00:04:06.960 ⇒ 00:04:07.620 Davis Dunham: Yeah.
29 00:04:08.050 ⇒ 00:04:11.869 Amber Lin: Yeah, we can talk about that later after you finish the main session.
30 00:04:12.290 ⇒ 00:04:22.930 Davis Dunham: Okay, cool, y’all. So I saw multiple posts about, essentially the skills that we have currently not…
31 00:04:23.620 ⇒ 00:04:30.980 Davis Dunham: doing, the extra bits that are included in linear that we have for just organization in terms of…
32 00:04:31.080 ⇒ 00:04:50.660 Davis Dunham: projects, milestones, initiatives. It’s kind of… a lot of our skills currently are very focused on just ticketing action items, which is great, for, you know, kind of, like, a quick, short run of things, but not nearly as good for, you know, a long… a longer meeting in which, like, a whole plan is being discussed.
33 00:04:50.930 ⇒ 00:04:55.139 Davis Dunham: Let me check this really quick, because I’m gonna mention…
34 00:04:57.350 ⇒ 00:05:02.869 Davis Dunham: There we… here we are. The transcript to Linear Tickets Skill.
35 00:05:03.280 ⇒ 00:05:08.270 Davis Dunham: Is the one that I just learned about earlier. That’s the one that brile, or B,
36 00:05:08.470 ⇒ 00:05:11.660 Davis Dunham: As I think he’s lovely referred to.
37 00:05:11.820 ⇒ 00:05:15.730 Davis Dunham: Told me about.
38 00:05:16.390 ⇒ 00:05:18.360 Davis Dunham: Give me just one second.
39 00:05:23.590 ⇒ 00:05:26.259 Davis Dunham: So, I’ll actually start with mine.
40 00:05:26.960 ⇒ 00:05:28.720 Davis Dunham: So, I’ve created a skill.
41 00:05:28.910 ⇒ 00:05:37.230 Davis Dunham: That I’m gonna have, or ask UTong to merge to main here in, like, after this call.
42 00:05:37.480 ⇒ 00:05:53.810 Davis Dunham: It’s called, Context to Milestone Tickets, and the goal of this skill, essentially, is to take unstructured, transcripts from meetings, you know, whatever, whether it be with a,
43 00:05:54.160 ⇒ 00:05:59.889 Davis Dunham: a client, though I think that this is more aimed at kind of internal for testing to start.
44 00:06:02.850 ⇒ 00:06:19.439 Davis Dunham: and essentially convert this into action items, attach those action items to milestones, and put them all within projects, and link them to initiatives as well. So, the goal of this guild is to do all of the fun linear organization for us.
45 00:06:19.680 ⇒ 00:06:26.099 Davis Dunham: Instead of just creating tickets that don’t have, you know, that are awfuls.
46 00:06:28.280 ⇒ 00:06:38.510 Davis Dunham: I’ve done some testing on it, it seems to work on my end. I would love for y’all to test this, and let me know how well it works for you, and if anything needs to change.
47 00:06:38.630 ⇒ 00:06:46.740 Davis Dunham: After this call, I will also post a little, like, a quick TLDR in the team channel for you.
48 00:06:47.370 ⇒ 00:06:54.159 Davis Dunham: But yeah, I mean, it’s very, very simple, very straightforward. We just didn’t have a skill that did that. A lot of our skills…
49 00:06:54.280 ⇒ 00:07:10.430 Davis Dunham: are more, specific in their functionality, which is great, for specific, you know, jobs, but nothing really covered the entire, end-to-end flow of, I have a transcript, I want to make it, like, a full…
50 00:07:10.470 ⇒ 00:07:15.220 Davis Dunham: I want to integrate these action items fully into linear.
51 00:07:15.520 ⇒ 00:07:35.299 Davis Dunham: And it does, like, the deduping, so it’ll read linear tasks first and make sure that it’s not adding stuff that’s, you know, a double of something that’s already there. It’ll just take something that’s already there and edit it to add, extra context to it. And that’s essentially the end of my skill.
52 00:07:35.420 ⇒ 00:07:40.560 Davis Dunham: The transcript linear tickets is…
53 00:07:42.330 ⇒ 00:07:46.460 Davis Dunham: I guess, I mean, it is, it is, it’s similar.
54 00:07:46.680 ⇒ 00:07:53.360 Davis Dunham: But it doesn’t focus on milestone implementation.
55 00:07:53.830 ⇒ 00:07:56.930 Kaela Gallagher: What are the two different ones? Which is the one that has the milestone?
56 00:07:57.150 ⇒ 00:08:01.039 Davis Dunham: It is context to milestone tickets.
57 00:08:02.350 ⇒ 00:08:03.270 Kaela Gallagher: Okay.
58 00:08:03.410 ⇒ 00:08:09.249 Davis Dunham: And then this other one that, Bea made is transcript to Linear Tickets.
59 00:08:09.630 ⇒ 00:08:13.750 Davis Dunham: Which… Honestly, I would say…
60 00:08:14.460 ⇒ 00:08:21.150 Davis Dunham: try, both of these. They both reference the playbook for ticketing.
61 00:08:21.890 ⇒ 00:08:25.269 Davis Dunham: Yeah, I would say test both of these, and just let me know.
62 00:08:25.750 ⇒ 00:08:29.970 Davis Dunham: how they’re working for you. I have yet to test the transfer to linear ticket skill.
63 00:08:30.120 ⇒ 00:08:32.909 Davis Dunham: Hmm.
64 00:08:32.919 ⇒ 00:08:49.369 Amber Lin: Do you have, like, a orchestrator skill for linear? Will that be covered? Because it’s… they sound very similar, and I think at one point, I will probably use a mix of them, or forget the distinctions between them.
65 00:08:49.370 ⇒ 00:08:57.779 Davis Dunham: After the skill, I wanted it to be tested first, and after it’s tested and it works nice, I will just merge it into the linear orchestrator.
66 00:08:58.460 ⇒ 00:09:05.190 Davis Dunham: As kind of just a catch-all, as opposed to the more specific modes within that orchestrator currently.
67 00:09:05.360 ⇒ 00:09:13.169 Davis Dunham: Yeah, yeah, so… I,
68 00:09:14.720 ⇒ 00:09:16.960 Davis Dunham: Yeah, I, I actually, I didn’t,
69 00:09:17.120 ⇒ 00:09:24.390 Davis Dunham: I didn’t know about this transfer to linear ticket skill prior, to, like, a… I think it’s…
70 00:09:24.390 ⇒ 00:09:27.999 Amber Lin: I think it’s probably very, very new. I think B just posted about it.
71 00:09:28.630 ⇒ 00:09:36.229 Davis Dunham: Yes. So, I am currently unsure of, like, the full differences between the two, but I will.
72 00:09:36.750 ⇒ 00:09:45.559 Davis Dunham: post about that. What I do know is the one that I, just made, the context to milestone tickets, should
73 00:09:45.870 ⇒ 00:09:49.450 Davis Dunham: solve the problem that Robert and Greg were both talking about.
74 00:09:49.450 ⇒ 00:09:50.080 Amber Lin: Okay.
75 00:09:50.080 ⇒ 00:09:51.840 Davis Dunham: Structured linear posting.
76 00:09:52.120 ⇒ 00:09:59.769 Amber Lin: Cool. I feel like they might be the best persons to test that, because they initiate projects and…
77 00:09:59.880 ⇒ 00:10:04.719 Amber Lin: Use the linear skill on the broader level a bit more.
78 00:10:05.200 ⇒ 00:10:08.469 Amber Lin: I think they will be the best person for you to get feedback from.
79 00:10:08.770 ⇒ 00:10:11.409 Davis Dunham: Lovely. I’ll make sure I get that info to them as well, then.
80 00:10:14.010 ⇒ 00:10:22.980 Davis Dunham: And then, yeah, did y’all have any questions about, the skill and or best practices for linear?
81 00:10:25.670 ⇒ 00:10:32.220 Amber Lin: Not from me. I was mostly here for the long-rating agent question.
82 00:10:37.970 ⇒ 00:10:38.420 Davis Dunham: Yes.
83 00:10:38.420 ⇒ 00:10:42.849 Demilade Agboola: I think, for me, it’s not necessarily, like, linear, per se, cause…
84 00:10:42.990 ⇒ 00:10:50.389 Demilade Agboola: I don’t necessarily do a lot of linear stuff. I mean, I do from time to time, but not, extensively. I think my question is just more of…
85 00:10:51.030 ⇒ 00:11:01.100 Demilade Agboola: I feel like the skills are, like, duplicate, like, we have a lot of skills, like, we have a ton of skills. How do we plan to, like, have them…
86 00:11:01.310 ⇒ 00:11:05.969 Demilade Agboola: Number one, How do we find the skills that we need when we need to use it?
87 00:11:06.080 ⇒ 00:11:11.039 Demilade Agboola: And number two, how do we, like, make it easier for us to…
88 00:11:11.670 ⇒ 00:11:14.530 Demilade Agboola: Use these skills without, like.
89 00:11:14.760 ⇒ 00:11:17.590 Demilade Agboola: Been overwhelmed by how many skills exist.
90 00:11:18.110 ⇒ 00:11:18.600 Davis Dunham: Yes.
91 00:11:18.600 ⇒ 00:11:23.440 Demilade Agboola: And I think third question would just be…
92 00:11:24.660 ⇒ 00:11:31.690 Demilade Agboola: I know… I’m trying to think of how to phrase the question, but, like, ultimately.
93 00:11:32.170 ⇒ 00:11:34.180 Demilade Agboola: How do we build out
94 00:11:35.050 ⇒ 00:11:43.889 Demilade Agboola: Our space in such a way that, like, those skills can be… some of the skills can be automated, especially skills that, like, we need to run on a certain cadence.
95 00:11:44.010 ⇒ 00:11:49.260 Demilade Agboola: So, for instance, like, we have a daily brief skill, which is a skill I actually, like, I came up with.
96 00:11:49.260 ⇒ 00:12:04.549 Demilade Agboola: It’s like, okay, it works on a certain cadence of, like, every morning it should run, get you, like, based off your linear tickets and all that stuff, and your emails and Slack messages. It can help you, like, just put the things you need to do for that day, based off of that.
97 00:12:05.010 ⇒ 00:12:10.079 Demilade Agboola: I’m just wondering if there’s a way, like, that could be made automated, such that…
98 00:12:10.230 ⇒ 00:12:22.279 Demilade Agboola: you can have that skill around, say, you know, 5AM Eastern every morning. Now, every morning you wake up and you have an idea of what’s… like, that’s automated, basically.
99 00:12:22.520 ⇒ 00:12:23.510 Davis Dunham: Yeah.
100 00:12:24.380 ⇒ 00:12:28.970 Davis Dunham: Great questions. I…
101 00:12:29.120 ⇒ 00:12:41.249 Davis Dunham: agree that, the current skill list is very large. And, you know, having tools that do a lot of different things is lovely, but at some point you get to a point where it’s like you’re trying to…
102 00:12:41.350 ⇒ 00:12:52.149 Davis Dunham: you know, fix a problem, and your toolkit is this, like… you pull every door out, and it’s just, like, this, like, scramble of tools, and it becomes more of a problem of finding the correct tool that you know exists.
103 00:12:52.820 ⇒ 00:12:57.820 Davis Dunham: In, like, the sea of tools that do exist.
104 00:12:57.930 ⇒ 00:13:01.499 Davis Dunham: So, that was the idea behind the orchestrators initially.
105 00:13:01.840 ⇒ 00:13:03.690 Davis Dunham: I was able to…
106 00:13:03.860 ⇒ 00:13:12.299 Davis Dunham: essentially cut the number of skills that we did have, first-party skills, in half, because there are two sets of skills…
107 00:13:12.300 ⇒ 00:13:25.590 Davis Dunham: Which y’all might already know this, so stop me if you do, but for people that don’t, we have our first-party skills, which are ones we made, and the, like, upstream skills, which are the stuff that comes from cursor, open code, or…
108 00:13:25.590 ⇒ 00:13:28.890 Davis Dunham: There’s some clawed ones in there as well.
109 00:13:29.730 ⇒ 00:13:38.330 Davis Dunham: And we had, I think, 150 first-party skills, and then after my first orchestrator passed, we were down to, like, 77, I believe.
110 00:13:40.900 ⇒ 00:14:00.029 Davis Dunham: the goal… my goal eventually, you know, pending approval from Utong and other higher-ups than me, is to consolidate everything as much as possible into these, like, very, like, broad orchestrators, because that also makes it easier to route
111 00:14:00.980 ⇒ 00:14:07.169 Davis Dunham: These use cases to these really large boxes that cover a lot of ground, which are these orchestrators.
112 00:14:07.410 ⇒ 00:14:08.510 Davis Dunham: And…
113 00:14:09.490 ⇒ 00:14:17.740 Davis Dunham: when that’s easier, at that point, whatever you’re using, cursor, open code, or, like, whatever, agent harness you’re using, can…
114 00:14:19.370 ⇒ 00:14:33.720 Davis Dunham: just, like, can reference that orchestrator easier, because it’s easier just to determine which flow it’s falling into, and then all of the previous skills that did exist are still there, but they’re just as modes within the orchestrator. So that’s kind of an ongoing project.
115 00:14:33.780 ⇒ 00:14:40.870 Davis Dunham: I’m trying to balance between simplifying without removing functionality.
116 00:14:40.960 ⇒ 00:14:56.079 Davis Dunham: On my first orchestrator pass, I got rid of a bunch of skills, and then afterwards I got feedback that I had broken workflows that people already had, and they were comfortable with using this specific skill. So I added them back in, but as
117 00:14:56.080 ⇒ 00:15:00.989 Davis Dunham: Shims, so they don’t actually contain the skill anymore, they’re just… they just point to the orchestrator.
118 00:15:01.550 ⇒ 00:15:06.430 Davis Dunham: Which is… The… the overarching goal
119 00:15:07.310 ⇒ 00:15:13.699 Davis Dunham: In my mind, is at some point, to, like, stratify the skills.
120 00:15:14.020 ⇒ 00:15:17.590 Davis Dunham: So we’ll have the marketplace that we already kind of have.
121 00:15:18.040 ⇒ 00:15:33.739 Davis Dunham: for cursor, but it will apply to, open code, other harnesses as well, where you can just choose the level of skills that you’re most comfortable with. Like, there’ll be a pro mode that has all of the individual skill names included.
122 00:15:33.840 ⇒ 00:15:41.129 Davis Dunham: And then a, like, A balanced mode, where a lot of those skills just don’t exist.
123 00:15:41.250 ⇒ 00:15:44.350 Davis Dunham: In… as individual names, they’re all just…
124 00:15:44.940 ⇒ 00:15:48.749 Davis Dunham: Assumed within modes of this orchestra… of these orchestrators.
125 00:15:48.750 ⇒ 00:15:49.250 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
126 00:15:50.510 ⇒ 00:15:54.240 Davis Dunham: And that is just, it’s gonna be a bit of, like, a…
127 00:15:54.620 ⇒ 00:15:58.880 Davis Dunham: A process to… to chip away at that.
128 00:15:59.100 ⇒ 00:16:13.509 Davis Dunham: Especially as I kind of learn y’all’s workflows, because I’m still pretty new, and I don’t want to… I don’t make too many assumptions about how y’all use these programs, so any feedback that y’all have is so welcome.
129 00:16:14.570 ⇒ 00:16:18.010 Davis Dunham: Do you feel like that answers
130 00:16:18.360 ⇒ 00:16:20.719 Davis Dunham: Question 1 and 2 pretty well.
131 00:16:21.060 ⇒ 00:16:27.740 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, fair enough. I guess it just will be, like, the implementation, and just keeping tabs on that, and how…
132 00:16:28.060 ⇒ 00:16:30.210 Demilade Agboola: To utilize it when it’s released.
133 00:16:30.500 ⇒ 00:16:39.639 Davis Dunham: I also have, a, like, weekly automated, like, skill consolidation review happening on the platform repo.
134 00:16:39.680 ⇒ 00:16:55.939 Davis Dunham: So, there’s a bot that runs through all the new skills that are created and suggests, which ones can be made orchestrators or added to existing orchestrators. So, we’re already starting on this, we have some infrastructure in place for this, but it’s just gonna be, like.
135 00:16:56.230 ⇒ 00:17:04.520 Davis Dunham: Working with agents is, much softer than, working with, like, hard code, and I don’t wanna…
136 00:17:06.369 ⇒ 00:17:11.949 Davis Dunham: I guess I want to tread a little bit lightly, just so I don’t, nuke all of our functionality on accident.
137 00:17:12.410 ⇒ 00:17:13.410 Demilade Agboola: Fair enough, fair enough.
138 00:17:14.040 ⇒ 00:17:23.619 Davis Dunham: So, yeah, the skills thing, once we have the system in place, though, and consolidation works really well, which, that’s the goal,
139 00:17:24.030 ⇒ 00:17:38.190 Davis Dunham: at that point, you know, every week, skills will be added, and they can be either, like, they can be deduplicated and then, moved into, their, like, applicable orchestrator and stuff, so it’ll just manage itself.
140 00:17:38.470 ⇒ 00:17:41.570 Davis Dunham: But it’s just gonna require some tuning.
141 00:17:44.660 ⇒ 00:17:49.799 Davis Dunham: And then question 3 about automating, the skill usage.
142 00:17:49.900 ⇒ 00:17:59.440 Davis Dunham: So, I know Mustafa’s currently working on the, Brainforge work platform, and I’m currently working on the Slack Assistant and upgrading that.
143 00:17:59.560 ⇒ 00:18:08.350 Davis Dunham: I think that, automating these could probably be automating that on, like, a time basis.
144 00:18:09.230 ⇒ 00:18:16.740 Davis Dunham: Could probably be included in either of those projects, depending on, like, kind of where you want to get that information.
145 00:18:18.630 ⇒ 00:18:31.090 Davis Dunham: we’ll just have to see, because it can’t happen… I guess it could happen locally, there’d be a script that you run on your computer, but I feel like that would be more prone to issues and errors and changes as they occur, so…
146 00:18:31.430 ⇒ 00:18:39.419 Davis Dunham: Most likely, it would occur either in Slack, like, you just get a message in Slack as a DM to you that would be your, daily brief.
147 00:18:42.440 ⇒ 00:18:46.159 Kaela Gallagher: I love the daily briefing skill, by the way. I use it every day.
148 00:18:48.150 ⇒ 00:19:00.720 Demilade Agboola: Putting the daily in daily brief. Glad it’s, glad it’s a useful scale. Yeah, I think just, yeah, automating it would make it much easier, and I think it would be just, like, one less step.
149 00:19:01.140 ⇒ 00:19:02.040 Davis Dunham: Yes.
150 00:19:02.040 ⇒ 00:19:07.859 Demilade Agboola: you know, just having what you need. And I think, as much as possible, if you can attract that level.
151 00:19:08.280 ⇒ 00:19:10.390 Demilade Agboola: That would always be helpful.
152 00:19:14.060 ⇒ 00:19:18.310 Davis Dunham: Heard, wait, say that one more time, I’m sorry, I was reading the message from Amber.
153 00:19:18.310 ⇒ 00:19:23.830 Demilade Agboola: No, I was just saying, like, if we can associate for, like, skills that, the…
154 00:19:24.120 ⇒ 00:19:35.459 Demilade Agboola: the level we can abstract is always very important, and if we can go from, hey, I need to go to cursor, type this in, wait for the response, like, then use it, and then, you know.
155 00:19:35.780 ⇒ 00:19:45.410 Demilade Agboola: if it just pops up in your… in your… like, you just automate it once and say, I want it every morning at, you know, 5AM ET, 6am ET, whatever time you care for.
156 00:19:45.490 ⇒ 00:19:57.350 Demilade Agboola: And then every morning on a weekday, it just pops up there. So, like, you don’t… you start your day just going into your Slack and just getting on stuff. And I think that can also be done for a number of, you know.
157 00:19:57.540 ⇒ 00:19:59.690 Demilade Agboola: skills, per se, like, we know…
158 00:20:00.340 ⇒ 00:20:12.110 Demilade Agboola: we have certain client meetings at certain times, and we have skills that make the slides. Why don’t we automate it? And we say, okay, we meet weekly with the clients on, say, Wednesdays.
159 00:20:12.300 ⇒ 00:20:15.509 Demilade Agboola: This scale runs on a Tuesday for this client to put
160 00:20:16.190 ⇒ 00:20:19.829 Demilade Agboola: the slide deck together, or, like, whatever time the CSO tree.
161 00:20:19.830 ⇒ 00:20:22.049 Davis Dunham: Yes, somebody offers it to you for review.
162 00:20:22.050 ⇒ 00:20:24.800 Demilade Agboola: Exactly. So, like, my point is if the…
163 00:20:25.250 ⇒ 00:20:33.059 Demilade Agboola: the way to boost people’s productivity, yes, with AI is great, like, using skills and having those skills, very helpful.
164 00:20:33.560 ⇒ 00:20:36.359 Demilade Agboola: I feel once we get to the point where it’s…
165 00:20:36.760 ⇒ 00:20:41.930 Demilade Agboola: They’re… it’s second nature without having to think about it.
166 00:20:41.930 ⇒ 00:20:42.720 Davis Dunham: Absolutely.
167 00:20:44.590 ⇒ 00:20:46.299 Davis Dunham: Absolutely. I,
168 00:20:46.530 ⇒ 00:20:58.369 Davis Dunham: I like that a lot, and I think that, the Brainforge Slack Assistant can be the platform for that to happen. I think it’s the perfect platform for that to happen on, actually, because we’re already on Slack, and .
169 00:20:58.370 ⇒ 00:20:58.960 Kaela Gallagher: Hmm.
170 00:20:59.410 ⇒ 00:21:05.820 Davis Dunham: the functionality that I’m adding to it currently is, like, the ability to, like, search in the repo and databases.
171 00:21:06.090 ⇒ 00:21:11.329 Davis Dunham: Real quick, though, I wanted to say, Amber, are you still here, or you… did Amber… did Amber depart?
172 00:21:11.330 ⇒ 00:21:12.739 Kaela Gallagher: I think she dropped.
173 00:21:13.350 ⇒ 00:21:15.799 Davis Dunham: Heard. Oh, I was just making sure. Yeah, she sent a message.
174 00:21:16.010 ⇒ 00:21:28.039 Davis Dunham: I will… I’ll get back with her about the long-running agents. I really don’t have a full answer on that one yet, just because it’s, the best thing that I can see
175 00:21:28.170 ⇒ 00:21:31.169 Davis Dunham: That, in terms of skills that we have right now, is…
176 00:21:31.430 ⇒ 00:21:34.669 Davis Dunham: I believe it’s Keep… I mean, it’s called Keep Running.
177 00:21:36.130 ⇒ 00:21:42.289 Davis Dunham: And… but it requires installing a separate like, CLI tool, and
178 00:21:42.730 ⇒ 00:21:47.799 Davis Dunham: essentially, like, a separate harness entirely. So, that one is something that…
179 00:21:47.990 ⇒ 00:21:50.320 Davis Dunham: I’ll do some more research into.
180 00:21:50.820 ⇒ 00:21:59.679 Davis Dunham: But… Demi, I like the ideas a lot. I think that, I think that having…
181 00:21:59.840 ⇒ 00:22:03.699 Davis Dunham: Automation’s running in a place where it’s kind of more centralized.
182 00:22:04.030 ⇒ 00:22:05.320 Davis Dunham: like Slack.
183 00:22:05.810 ⇒ 00:22:16.529 Davis Dunham: is a great idea. I was curious about the idea of, like, where notifications would happen, and I’ve been having some ideas swirl around my head in terms of, like.
184 00:22:16.840 ⇒ 00:22:26.220 Davis Dunham: Currently, Mustafa and Utam are working on Brainforge work, which, I’m not sure the full scope of that.
185 00:22:26.740 ⇒ 00:22:30.680 Davis Dunham: So, you know, there’s more…
186 00:22:30.920 ⇒ 00:22:37.640 Davis Dunham: A lot of information intake for, for, for a first, first week of, of, working here, but…
187 00:22:38.620 ⇒ 00:22:39.769 Demilade Agboola: Welcome to the team.
188 00:22:39.940 ⇒ 00:22:41.339 Davis Dunham: Thank you, thank you.
189 00:22:41.750 ⇒ 00:22:43.520 Davis Dunham: A lot of fun, I can’t lie.
190 00:22:45.090 ⇒ 00:22:59.849 Davis Dunham: Either way, yeah, I love those ideas, and I’m gonna… I will jot those down, because, I’m actually already working on the slide deck generator as well, and I’m gonna try and take some inspiration from Claw Design on that.
191 00:23:00.520 ⇒ 00:23:05.079 Davis Dunham: And if I can just have that run automatically before scheduled meetings.
192 00:23:05.450 ⇒ 00:23:15.809 Davis Dunham: And then send, you know, you a Slack message that says, hey, I prepared these slides, you know, look at these for review, and send you a link, and then you can open that link, go to the…
193 00:23:15.830 ⇒ 00:23:31.639 Davis Dunham: slide editor, and then just use either… you can manually input stuff, or use the agent that’s on the page, and be like, this needs to change, this needs to change, and then it’ll change that for you, and export it as a PowerPoint, or slide, or however you need it.
194 00:23:31.940 ⇒ 00:23:34.890 Davis Dunham: That’s, like, the functionality that I imagine.
195 00:23:36.260 ⇒ 00:23:37.930 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I agree. I think, like.
196 00:23:38.040 ⇒ 00:23:45.269 Demilade Agboola: even… I’m sure if we sit down and think of a bunch of skills, we could also come up with, like, ways to automate them in ways that are…
197 00:23:45.570 ⇒ 00:23:48.789 Demilade Agboola: Very useful.
198 00:23:49.020 ⇒ 00:23:56.080 Demilade Agboola: I think the skills themselves are very, like, powerful, and they do help quite a bit and save some time in, like, what we’re doing.
199 00:23:56.080 ⇒ 00:23:56.460 Davis Dunham: Yes, ma’am.
200 00:23:56.460 ⇒ 00:24:04.329 Demilade Agboola: If we can make it, like, easier to access, if we make it, like, a part of the daily nature of what we do.
201 00:24:04.440 ⇒ 00:24:08.950 Demilade Agboola: It makes a huge difference in usability, accessibility.
202 00:24:09.370 ⇒ 00:24:11.909 Demilade Agboola: Like, that… that sort of thing, because…
203 00:24:12.160 ⇒ 00:24:18.399 Demilade Agboola: Even though it seems really small, that friction to go to cursor, for instance, to trigger it.
204 00:24:18.870 ⇒ 00:24:19.460 Davis Dunham: Yes.
205 00:24:19.460 ⇒ 00:24:25.459 Demilade Agboola: there is some friction there, especially if you’re not consistently using your, like, an IDE, or it’s not something you’re.
206 00:24:25.460 ⇒ 00:24:25.930 Davis Dunham: Yeah.
207 00:24:26.570 ⇒ 00:24:32.879 Demilade Agboola: I think just the ease in which some things can be made available will boost the usage.
208 00:24:33.190 ⇒ 00:24:42.779 Davis Dunham: Yeah, it’s like a habit that needs to be trained versus, in a step that happens without you having to think about it. I agree.
209 00:24:44.840 ⇒ 00:24:45.830 Davis Dunham: Heard…
210 00:24:45.940 ⇒ 00:24:58.379 Davis Dunham: I will, I can implement that. I’ll… after I get the Slack buy, I’m trying to ship it by Friday. At least, like, the… within the scope of what Uptam’s given me so far, and,
211 00:24:59.010 ⇒ 00:25:03.980 Davis Dunham: I’ll do some research into, like, what needs to happen to make that Make that happen.
212 00:25:04.490 ⇒ 00:25:09.240 Kaela Gallagher: Davis, I’m curious about the functionality of a Slack bot, because…
213 00:25:09.400 ⇒ 00:25:13.299 Kaela Gallagher: Right now, the way I’ve seen people use it is, like, only in…
214 00:25:13.820 ⇒ 00:25:25.350 Kaela Gallagher: public channels, and then they, like, tag it, but is there, like, a way in which we’re gonna be able to use it, like, just privately, or is it always gonna be in, like, public forums?
215 00:25:25.460 ⇒ 00:25:35.940 Davis Dunham: So, actually, I should say, I’m saying Slapbot, but Slapbot is actually a different thing. The Brainforge assistant, as the…
216 00:25:36.340 ⇒ 00:25:39.690 Davis Dunham: Is the one that I am working on.
217 00:25:39.690 ⇒ 00:25:40.490 Kaela Gallagher: Yes.
218 00:25:40.490 ⇒ 00:25:42.559 Davis Dunham: is, I think, what we’re all talking about here. I just wanted to be sure.
219 00:25:42.560 ⇒ 00:25:43.170 Kaela Gallagher: Yep.
220 00:25:43.540 ⇒ 00:25:47.600 Davis Dunham: It is, currently, it’s in…
221 00:25:48.420 ⇒ 00:25:56.819 Davis Dunham: the channels it’s been invited to. So it is in some private channels as well, it’s just not automatically in private channels. I think that in the public channels, it might…
222 00:25:57.160 ⇒ 00:25:59.139 Davis Dunham: Might automatically just be there.
223 00:26:02.280 ⇒ 00:26:06.209 Davis Dunham: And at some point, the goal is to build functionality where
224 00:26:06.580 ⇒ 00:26:17.309 Davis Dunham: it will DM you things if it thinks that that is, like, something that it should do. Also, if you do… if you scroll down on Slack, all the way to the bottom, to Apps.
225 00:26:17.310 ⇒ 00:26:18.570 Kaela Gallagher: And the abs, yeah.
226 00:26:18.570 ⇒ 00:26:22.889 Davis Dunham: There, it should be Brainforge Assistant, and you can talk directly to it in Slack as well.
227 00:26:23.020 ⇒ 00:26:26.139 Kaela Gallagher: So mine actually says that it’s, like, turned off.
228 00:26:26.390 ⇒ 00:26:29.860 Kaela Gallagher: When I go down to the app function, it says…
229 00:26:30.240 ⇒ 00:26:32.809 Kaela Gallagher: Sending messages to this app has been turned off.
230 00:26:33.810 ⇒ 00:26:34.980 Davis Dunham: Very interesting.
231 00:26:36.390 ⇒ 00:26:48.300 Davis Dunham: I, I will… I’ll look into that, because it works for… it works for me. That might be a Slack-specific thing. Okay. But I can look into that.
232 00:26:48.830 ⇒ 00:26:49.500 Kaela Gallagher: Cool.
233 00:26:50.620 ⇒ 00:26:55.699 Davis Dunham: But yeah, in the end, the DM functionality directly with it will be,
234 00:26:56.230 ⇒ 00:27:00.109 Davis Dunham: Something you can do. As well as, the goal is for it to…
235 00:27:00.500 ⇒ 00:27:05.170 Davis Dunham: Utam and I are currently working on a… Trying to…
236 00:27:05.620 ⇒ 00:27:15.999 Davis Dunham: get it to respond when it’s not mentioned, but only, like, when it needs to. Because if it gets annoying, people just start ignoring it.
237 00:27:17.600 ⇒ 00:27:18.660 Kaela Gallagher: Right.
238 00:27:18.660 ⇒ 00:27:19.170 Davis Dunham: Have someone.
239 00:27:19.170 ⇒ 00:27:20.139 Kaela Gallagher: That’s the credit.
240 00:27:20.140 ⇒ 00:27:24.809 Davis Dunham: And it’s like, hey, you know, what is happening with this client?
241 00:27:25.100 ⇒ 00:27:30.200 Davis Dunham: does anyone know what’s happening with this? It’ll just chime in and be like, these are the most recent updates.
242 00:27:30.630 ⇒ 00:27:34.480 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, because Cursor has them. Hmm, okay. Yeah. That’s cool.
243 00:27:34.760 ⇒ 00:27:35.360 Davis Dunham: Yeah.
244 00:27:36.330 ⇒ 00:27:37.090 Kaela Gallagher: Nice.
245 00:27:39.190 ⇒ 00:27:46.429 Davis Dunham: Cool. Any other questions from y’all, and or, ideas, ways that,
246 00:27:46.770 ⇒ 00:27:49.339 Davis Dunham: I can make y’all’s life easier.
247 00:27:50.180 ⇒ 00:27:57.080 Kaela Gallagher: I mentioned this to be as an idea for the platform, which I think you’re kind of working on maybe a little bit with Mustafa.
248 00:27:57.080 ⇒ 00:27:57.430 Davis Dunham: Yes.
249 00:27:57.430 ⇒ 00:28:07.850 Kaela Gallagher: But it would be really cool to have, like, AI leaderboards. Disney’s actually doing this right now, so maybe we could pull from them as an idea, but,
250 00:28:07.850 ⇒ 00:28:19.520 Kaela Gallagher: like, within the platform somewhere, we could have a leaderboard of who’s… who has the most, like, token usage, or maybe other metrics that we would, like, care about. I feel like that’s something people would…
251 00:28:19.700 ⇒ 00:28:23.490 Kaela Gallagher: Be excited to see and brag about.
252 00:28:24.600 ⇒ 00:28:26.310 Davis Dunham: That’s fun. I like that a lot.
253 00:28:26.310 ⇒ 00:28:31.430 Kaela Gallagher: And then if people aren’t using AI, like, there’s a zero next to their name, then… You know?
254 00:28:31.430 ⇒ 00:28:33.240 Davis Dunham: It’s like, use AI now.
255 00:28:33.860 ⇒ 00:28:40.529 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah. Of course Utam will be number one. Maybe we should just not have his name on there at all. Like, Utam and Robert don’t count.
256 00:28:40.910 ⇒ 00:28:45.310 Davis Dunham: I’m on… we have actually something kind of similar on the platform channel.
257 00:28:45.310 ⇒ 00:29:01.399 Davis Dunham: where it’ll show, like, the leaderboards for PRs, the platform repo, and every time, it’s like, you know, you have, like, in place number 2 for the last 30 days is, like, 30 or 40, which is, like, a respectable amount, and then place number 1 is Gut Tom, and it’s, like, 200.
258 00:29:02.750 ⇒ 00:29:05.120 Davis Dunham: in the same…
259 00:29:05.390 ⇒ 00:29:12.360 Davis Dunham: But, yeah, that’s a great idea. It’s a great idea. I will, absolutely look into that, because that sounds fun.
260 00:29:12.550 ⇒ 00:29:16.959 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah, just a fun little thing to have, like, not a priority to the business, but…
261 00:29:17.100 ⇒ 00:29:20.809 Kaela Gallagher: Just a feature. Demi, how are you liking the US?
262 00:29:23.580 ⇒ 00:29:25.159 Kaela Gallagher: I’m sure it’s going.
263 00:29:25.450 ⇒ 00:29:32.530 Demilade Agboola: I mean, I come around often, because my girlfriend, like, lives here, so it’s not new anymore.
264 00:29:32.530 ⇒ 00:29:33.020 Kaela Gallagher: Yeah.
265 00:29:33.020 ⇒ 00:29:40.119 Demilade Agboola: I’ve been coming around since, like, 2023. But it is cold. Like, it’s Minnesota, so it’s cold…
266 00:29:40.120 ⇒ 00:29:40.740 Davis Dunham: I was like…
267 00:29:40.740 ⇒ 00:29:44.209 Kaela Gallagher: Minnesota, of all places, oh my goodness.
268 00:29:44.210 ⇒ 00:29:51.319 Demilade Agboola: I mean, to be fair, it’s spring, so it’s… it’s warmer than if I had come, like, 2 months ago.
269 00:29:51.320 ⇒ 00:29:51.990 Davis Dunham: Yeah.
270 00:29:51.990 ⇒ 00:29:57.349 Demilade Agboola: So, it’s way better, and the times I’ve been here, and it was, like, negative 40, so…
271 00:29:58.160 ⇒ 00:30:02.419 Demilade Agboola: So this is pretty good, this is pretty good. Yeah.
272 00:30:02.480 ⇒ 00:30:04.320 Kaela Gallagher: Are you in Minneapolis?
273 00:30:04.540 ⇒ 00:30:11.139 Demilade Agboola: No, my girlfriend lives in West St. Paul, so it’s, like, still Twin Cities, still, like, close to Minneapolis.
274 00:30:12.010 ⇒ 00:30:14.139 Demilade Agboola: Well, you know, like, it’s Westing Pole.
275 00:30:14.360 ⇒ 00:30:19.920 Demilade Agboola: Okay. I mean, it’s pretty cool, like, there’s just… there’s always, like, stuff to do.
276 00:30:20.270 ⇒ 00:30:27.410 Demilade Agboola: You know, a lot of restaurants, a lot of, like, shopping malls, there’s just… stuff, it’s the US, there’s just a lot of things to do in there.
277 00:30:27.410 ⇒ 00:30:28.000 Kaela Gallagher: Yes.
278 00:30:28.000 ⇒ 00:30:28.450 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
279 00:30:28.450 ⇒ 00:30:36.190 Kaela Gallagher: Yes, very different from Europe in that way, for sure. Cool. Well, enjoy your time here.
280 00:30:36.360 ⇒ 00:30:37.360 Demilade Agboola: Thank you.
281 00:30:38.320 ⇒ 00:30:40.729 Davis Dunham: and curious, Demi, where are you based?
282 00:30:43.380 ⇒ 00:30:44.010 Kaela Gallagher: Demi?
283 00:30:44.220 ⇒ 00:30:46.669 Demilade Agboola: I’m based in Malta right now, so I live.
284 00:30:46.670 ⇒ 00:30:47.200 Davis Dunham: Oh God.
285 00:30:47.640 ⇒ 00:30:48.500 Demilade Agboola: So…
286 00:30:48.500 ⇒ 00:30:53.800 Davis Dunham: That’s where all the Malta, Malta-themed, retro is coming from.
287 00:30:54.490 ⇒ 00:31:00.450 Demilade Agboola: I mean, yeah, yeah, so that was the reason why, yeah, there were questions about, like, Malta in there.
288 00:31:02.440 ⇒ 00:31:11.139 Demilade Agboola: But, I do plan on moving to Spain very soon, so fingers crossed that goes well. So, you know, maybe we’ll have Spanish questions, we’ll see.
289 00:31:11.140 ⇒ 00:31:12.300 Davis Dunham: Heck yeah, that’s awesome.
290 00:31:13.840 ⇒ 00:31:15.549 Demilade Agboola: Alright, yeah, so…
291 00:31:17.010 ⇒ 00:31:19.810 Kaela Gallagher: Oh, well, thank you Thanks for hosting.
292 00:31:19.810 ⇒ 00:31:37.529 Davis Dunham: Yeah, absolutely. Thank y’all for being here. I, I’m gonna try to do this more, and have just, like, sessions where I can get some feedback, and also updates on, skills to look out for, that kind of thing. The overarching goal… goal… goodness, overarching goal is to…
293 00:31:38.110 ⇒ 00:31:40.349 Davis Dunham: Simplify, just so that…
294 00:31:40.680 ⇒ 00:31:45.870 Davis Dunham: You don’t have to dig through, you know, 100 skills before you get to the exact right one.
295 00:31:46.420 ⇒ 00:31:49.060 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that would be helpful. Thank you.
296 00:31:49.060 ⇒ 00:31:51.280 Davis Dunham: Absolutely. Thanks, guys, have a good one.
297 00:31:51.280 ⇒ 00:31:52.939 Kaela Gallagher: You too. Bye.
298 00:31:52.940 ⇒ 00:31:53.570 Demilade Agboola: Bye.