Meeting Title: CTA Sync Date: 2026-05-07 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Amber Lin, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:00.000 00:00:00.750 Awaish Kumar: Evidence.

2 00:02:30.500 00:02:31.460 Amber Lin: Hello!

3 00:02:32.980 00:02:33.570 Awaish Kumar: Bye.

4 00:02:34.200 00:02:44.950 Amber Lin: Hi, I have a few things, but, can… if we start with the small ones, then I need the… I need a little bit of help on the dbt side.

5 00:02:45.000 00:02:59.199 Amber Lin: I think I… I have a private key, but then I think I need a public key. I sent you a message. Did you have to do that in Snowflake? Because I think my… my role doesn’t have that permission.

6 00:03:01.040 00:03:04.850 Awaish Kumar: Okay, what role you are using?

7 00:03:06.250 00:03:14.680 Amber Lin: I’m using the role developer. I think you just have to run that… Just a sequel in?

8 00:03:14.680 00:03:15.070 Awaish Kumar: I presume.

9 00:03:15.070 00:03:16.950 Amber Lin: Snowflake, probably.

10 00:03:17.920 00:03:19.069 Amber Lin: 30 years. Awesome.

11 00:03:19.430 00:03:20.560 Awaish Kumar: Service users.

12 00:03:20.560 00:03:21.270 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, guys.

13 00:03:22.210 00:03:29.250 Amber Lin: Hi. Okay. Maybe we can figure that out after this meeting. I know Tom’s busy. Okay.

14 00:03:29.380 00:03:33.620 Amber Lin: So, we are going in person next…

15 00:03:33.620 00:03:34.460 Uttam Kumaran: Tuesday?

16 00:03:34.710 00:03:40.140 Amber Lin: Which gives us… Tuesday’s content is still, like, working internally, so that gives us…

17 00:03:40.210 00:03:40.920 Uttam Kumaran: Excuse me.

18 00:03:40.920 00:03:42.180 Amber Lin: 3ish?

19 00:03:42.180 00:03:55.669 Uttam Kumaran: So I can, yeah, I think broadly, I think I can take ownership of, like, the documentation. I don’t mind doing that.

20 00:03:57.230 00:04:12.439 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, anything around documentation and, like, how to set things up, I can take that on. I think Awash, I kind of want to feel like should take on anything RBAC. I can… I can take on the Trelica thing, but Awash, I may even, like.

21 00:04:12.590 00:04:19.240 Uttam Kumaran: connect you with Ian, because he just will need, like, what roles… what details can we give people.

22 00:04:20.399 00:04:21.129 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

23 00:04:24.210 00:04:28.419 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know, Amber, if that’s… those are, like, two of the three things, but you have the.

24 00:04:28.420 00:04:28.760 Amber Lin: Yeah.

25 00:04:28.760 00:04:29.430 Uttam Kumaran: I guess.

26 00:04:29.720 00:04:30.280 Uttam Kumaran: God.

27 00:04:30.280 00:04:45.390 Amber Lin: Yeah, mainly on my side is one adoption dashboard, which I’m working on right now, and two is getting the sidebar to a more acceptable state. I think…

28 00:04:45.490 00:04:57.290 Amber Lin: The agent in Snow Intelligence is, like, acceptable. I think the semantic views does its job, and I can’t make

29 00:04:57.290 00:05:06.429 Amber Lin: huge changes in the limited time, I don’t want to break stuff, so what I can do before our rollout is try to get the sidebar

30 00:05:06.430 00:05:16.269 Amber Lin: to a better state. If that means metadata, if that means any access or role-based stuff, so just to get

31 00:05:16.470 00:05:21.429 Amber Lin: The three interaction interfaces, so Streamlit, Sidebar, and Agent.

32 00:05:21.930 00:05:22.830 Amber Lin: Better

33 00:05:22.970 00:05:42.030 Amber Lin: And then that will essentially be what we roll out with when we meet them on Tuesday or Wednesday. So that’s gonna be my focus. So I’m limiting the scope, trying to figure out, like, what is acceptable and doable by Tuesday.

34 00:05:43.600 00:05:44.620 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

35 00:05:44.800 00:05:45.490 Uttam Kumaran: Makes sense.

36 00:05:45.490 00:05:50.660 Awaish Kumar: Like, we have a role chair that has access to ProdMarts.

37 00:05:50.770 00:05:55.559 Awaish Kumar: So what’s the, like, issue with the role-based access inside… in the sidebar?

38 00:05:56.250 00:06:10.320 Amber Lin: Oh, no, that is mostly if we need to restrict it even more to make the answers more accurate. It’s not that they don’t have access, it’s just if we should adjust anything.

39 00:06:10.700 00:06:11.170 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah.

40 00:06:11.170 00:06:12.719 Amber Lin: Let’s do it.

41 00:06:13.110 00:06:22.159 Awaish Kumar: Catherine for, like, restricting it to… like, based on the… like… Users, like, domain?

42 00:06:22.460 00:06:23.059 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you for.

43 00:06:23.060 00:06:26.809 Awaish Kumar: This is from finance team, or some different team, and .

44 00:06:26.810 00:06:28.570 Uttam Kumaran: But what she wanted.

45 00:06:28.570 00:06:32.659 Awaish Kumar: like, we should have… everybody should have access to everything in Broadmarts.

46 00:06:33.200 00:06:34.650 Amber Lin: Okay.

47 00:06:34.860 00:06:48.359 Amber Lin: Yeah, it currently also has access to death marts, I think, and raw, so we might want to look into it if we need to remove that, and just restrict it to raw marts.

48 00:06:49.090 00:06:51.780 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I can… I can take that and restrict it.

49 00:06:51.960 00:06:55.750 Awaish Kumar: Roll chat to only, access broadcasts.

50 00:06:56.400 00:06:59.290 Amber Lin: Okay, okay, and then…

51 00:06:59.590 00:07:12.309 Amber Lin: I wish I’ll work with you with the meta… on the metadata stuff. And for the adoption dash, I made some fixes in our current one, because it wasn’t working before, but now I’m trying to build a…

52 00:07:12.710 00:07:24.839 Amber Lin: new one in open code that’s a bit more robust, so I’ll see what I have. I’m trying to do that today. And then, ideally, I have the metadata fixed by…

53 00:07:24.980 00:07:26.250 Amber Lin: End a week.

54 00:07:26.450 00:07:39.019 Amber Lin: And then… so that will be mostly on the sidebar stuff. For the clients, I am not sure if they have set up, like, Asana or Slack for support.

55 00:07:39.020 00:07:39.470 Uttam Kumaran: Chase.

56 00:07:40.030 00:07:42.270 Uttam Kumaran: We don’t… they don’t have it yet, so I think far off.

57 00:07:42.270 00:07:42.850 Amber Lin: Okay.

58 00:07:42.850 00:07:51.289 Uttam Kumaran: that I proposed to them is, like, should we, should we, should we set up, like, a,

59 00:07:51.980 00:07:53.510 Uttam Kumaran: what’s it called?

60 00:07:53.850 00:08:05.529 Uttam Kumaran: like, a Slack… support Slack channels, was open to it. Like, I think this is where maybe we should just take the lead and say, let’s just do this. Because I’ve asked her a couple of times, she said, yeah, let’s do it, and…

61 00:08:05.830 00:08:10.520 Uttam Kumaran: She didn’t do it, so I think she’s fine with that, so let’s just assume that’s gonna happen. Yeah.

62 00:08:11.720 00:08:13.009 Amber Lin: Cool. And then I think that should.

63 00:08:13.010 00:08:17.770 Uttam Kumaran: It would also be helpful for us to see people, like, directly, you know? Like, get their questions.

64 00:08:19.690 00:08:21.060 Amber Lin: Agreed.

65 00:08:21.190 00:08:29.230 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay. So, we’ll set up Slack, and then we can invite folks that come.

66 00:08:29.380 00:08:31.240 Amber Lin: That we decide on.

67 00:08:31.420 00:08:35.939 Amber Lin: Let me see what else is on the list.

68 00:08:36.750 00:08:43.679 Amber Lin: Okay, Trelica… But… Right.

69 00:08:43.890 00:08:45.449 Amber Lin: Okay, and I…

70 00:08:45.450 00:08:49.310 Uttam Kumaran: That would be pretty easy right away. It’s like a one-point thing.

71 00:08:49.670 00:08:54.249 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good, and I will go ask…

72 00:08:54.510 00:08:57.970 Amber Lin: Kai, about Streamlit and where that’s at.

73 00:08:58.400 00:08:59.790 Amber Lin: Okay.

74 00:09:00.220 00:09:07.579 Amber Lin: Otherwise… Are you going to create the Slack channel, or should I?

75 00:09:08.650 00:09:11.950 Uttam Kumaran: I think let’s… Can we…

76 00:09:11.950 00:09:13.089 Amber Lin: We can ask tomorrow morning.

77 00:09:13.090 00:09:13.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

78 00:09:14.890 00:09:19.809 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s just… yeah, let’s ask tomorrow morning, and let’s plan on doing it in that call tomorrow.

79 00:09:20.010 00:09:34.080 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. And tomorrow, I will check with Catherine on her email draft, and I can probably help her with that. In the user guide, I had a ticket for that. We wanted to…

80 00:09:34.240 00:09:46.530 Amber Lin: tell them, hey, what’s in Snowflake, what is yet to come? I can… I think… who… oops, sorry, would you like to take that ticket? Because I don’t know what our plan is.

81 00:09:46.530 00:09:47.059 Uttam Kumaran: I can do that.

82 00:09:47.060 00:09:49.159 Amber Lin: down the road. Okay, great.

83 00:09:50.070 00:10:00.460 Amber Lin: Cool. I will create, a skeleton. I’ll probably start one in the repo, or create a shared Google Doc, and then we can just add things there.

84 00:10:00.930 00:10:01.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

85 00:10:02.050 00:10:05.600 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, sounds good.

86 00:10:06.790 00:10:18.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think, tomorrow, let’s make sure the meeting is really focused on, like, we can build out the agenda, because I also want to spend some time one-on-one with Catherine and Jay.

87 00:10:19.300 00:10:22.400 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna need some time to…

88 00:10:22.730 00:10:28.250 Uttam Kumaran: basically do that. So that’s just what I want to make sure that we have some time for that.

89 00:10:28.250 00:10:30.210 Amber Lin: Cool. Make sure…

90 00:10:34.230 00:10:34.940 Amber Lin: Alright, let me…

91 00:10:35.340 00:10:45.550 Amber Lin: We can start the agenda in… in our internal channel. Okay, any other concerns? I might use the remaining time with Arash.

92 00:10:45.700 00:10:51.889 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think one big thing as just a theme for next week is, like, I want to make sure we,

93 00:10:52.460 00:11:05.719 Uttam Kumaran: like, I can get enough FaceTime with Jay and Catherine, and then you can get enough FaceTime with kind of, like, some of these other, like, sort of lead characters that are outside of our team. Like, you spend one-on-one, like, showing them,

94 00:11:06.090 00:11:13.229 Uttam Kumaran: like, Snowflake and just doing, like, sessions, so that’s what I want to theme. There’s also gonna be a meeting that we’re gonna get invited to to sit in.

95 00:11:13.340 00:11:26.780 Uttam Kumaran: That is gonna be more related to, like, just, like, understanding, like, the whole company’s objectives. So kind of, like, our time while we’re there is just to, like, make a really awesome impression, and just, like.

96 00:11:27.140 00:11:33.640 Uttam Kumaran: be really helpful and spend time building camaraderie. So I’ll also ask Catherine about going out to dinner Tuesday night.

97 00:11:34.240 00:11:34.890 Amber Lin: Okay.

98 00:11:34.890 00:11:37.439 Uttam Kumaran: With the group, and then…

99 00:11:38.140 00:11:45.240 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like it should be pretty chill. I mean, I know, Amber, this is your only thing, so I’ll almost try to clear my schedule.

100 00:11:45.820 00:11:47.950 Uttam Kumaran: As I, you know, haha.

101 00:11:48.860 00:11:57.329 Amber Lin: Cool, okay. Yeah, I will be, like, 100% there, so I will spend my whole day talking with the folks.

102 00:11:57.940 00:11:59.830 Amber Lin: Yeah, cool, alright.

103 00:12:00.820 00:12:15.459 Amber Lin: Okay, I feel pretty decent. Can you tell me what your expectations for, like, what the user experience, or what needs to be ready at rollout, so I can see if I’m aligned?

104 00:12:17.420 00:12:19.069 Uttam Kumaran: Wait, say that one more time?

105 00:12:20.560 00:12:29.490 Amber Lin: I want to align on expectations of what it means to be ready. Like, I was thinking of, okay, sidebar needs to come up with.

106 00:12:31.380 00:12:32.410 Uttam Kumaran: I canceled it.

107 00:12:32.410 00:12:35.740 Amber Lin: Oh, sorry, I heard background noise.

108 00:12:35.740 00:12:46.580 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, in terms of end state, I think one is, like, it’s kind of Catherine’s sign-off, so I think tomorrow I want to basically try to be clear with, like, how do we… when do we know that this is, like.

109 00:12:46.680 00:13:01.789 Uttam Kumaran: when do we know that we’re in a good spot with this, and how far are we? I mean, I roughly think that if we… like, really, I think more of what I’m gonna push you to think about is, like, the feedback loop being clear. Like, I don’t want Catherine in the loop of, like.

110 00:13:01.820 00:13:09.639 Uttam Kumaran: something went wrong, and, like, it goes through Catherine, and then it comes to us. Ultimately, I’d like us to get… insert ourselves into that process.

111 00:13:09.880 00:13:12.330 Uttam Kumaran: Right?

112 00:13:12.600 00:13:17.799 Uttam Kumaran: So if they insert ourselves, if we insert ourselves into the process, then…

113 00:13:18.020 00:13:34.150 Uttam Kumaran: That way, we get the feedback directly, and she feels confident that, like, the system is working. That could be the Slack channel, that could be through our usage dashboard, but I feel like, for me, honestly, like, 100% accurate is not, like, a good, like.

114 00:13:34.590 00:13:36.929 Uttam Kumaran: That’s not something we could, like, hit.

115 00:13:37.090 00:13:43.690 Uttam Kumaran: So, instead, I would like to be, like, we have a working usage dashboard, we have a Slack channel where people can give clear feedback.

116 00:13:43.690 00:13:44.310 Amber Lin: Hmm.

117 00:13:44.310 00:13:46.400 Uttam Kumaran: And, like.

118 00:13:46.740 00:14:01.900 Uttam Kumaran: we… we clearly show our ability to, like, picket and remedy fast. Like, by Wednesday, I would love to… for those three, because then that shows that we have an ability… like, all of us can go now, just, like, look at things that come up, and then fix them, versus, like.

119 00:14:02.590 00:14:08.420 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if it’s working, we don’t know who’s using it, but that… do you think that that’s more of a fair, like…

120 00:14:08.420 00:14:10.950 Amber Lin: Yeah, that feels a lot better, yeah.

121 00:14:10.950 00:14:12.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

122 00:14:13.030 00:14:13.480 Amber Lin: cor…

123 00:14:13.480 00:14:13.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great.

124 00:14:13.920 00:14:21.690 Amber Lin: Because right now, I… I… for a lot of the semantic views, I don’t even know what’s good. They might not even know what’s good, so…

125 00:14:21.690 00:14:37.400 Uttam Kumaran: just assume they’re not gonna know what good means, and so for us, I’m now… you’re gonna see my tone change with these, because I… I feel like I’ve asked a lot of times for, like, help to define, and I think, like, for better or for worse, I think Catherine’s, like, just gonna, like, throw with the punches, so we need to be, like.

126 00:14:37.670 00:14:42.479 Uttam Kumaran: tight, I think. And so, I want us to just have a path where

127 00:14:42.650 00:15:02.940 Uttam Kumaran: like, on a weekly basis, on Monday, kind of… kind of like ABC, where we can all look at, like, the usage dashboard. We look at… we look at what changes, like, what… what questions are coming in through the Slack channel, and, like, what fixes are being made. And then to give you guys… to give you a little perspective on, like, the contract side, my goal is… is one.

128 00:15:03.210 00:15:05.309 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna s- I wa- we’re gonna…

129 00:15:05.310 00:15:23.490 Uttam Kumaran: I want to see if we can add one more person here, or at least another half-time person that can focus on Snowflake as a way, which I know is, like, pretty busy. Second is, I want to try to get us some AI work with Jay. It’s actually going to be beyond Snowflake. It’s going to be really, like, related to

130 00:15:23.490 00:15:28.349 Uttam Kumaran: to actually, like, developing a broader AI solution.

131 00:15:28.370 00:15:35.879 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, I feel like if we… I think, ultimately, compared to other clients, Amber, like, this is gonna be just, like, a…

132 00:15:35.960 00:15:41.560 Uttam Kumaran: we just support as a team. I don’t know if we’re necessarily gonna be able to set, like.

133 00:15:41.660 00:15:54.270 Uttam Kumaran: 3-month objectives that we tried, and we just haven’t been able to. So… but the client loves us, because we’re just on… we’re just, like, available, and we push things forward. And so, like.

134 00:15:54.370 00:16:02.530 Uttam Kumaran: we should set some objectives, we should hit them, and then allow… gives me space to go, like, I know how to get more people onto this, you know?

135 00:16:03.430 00:16:04.380 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t qualify.

136 00:16:04.570 00:16:05.240 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.

137 00:16:05.240 00:16:13.420 Amber Lin: Okay. Yeah, I feel… I feel pretty good about that. I know what I need to do now. I’m probably gonna focus

138 00:16:13.610 00:16:20.989 Amber Lin: a bit more on the… just the sidebar, and then the usage and dash, or the Dashroom dash.

139 00:16:21.200 00:16:22.760 Amber Lin: Okay.

140 00:16:23.460 00:16:43.049 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and if you get stuck anywhere, just send a note. So, I mean, I’m gonna be on all day today and tomorrow, and, like, if you end up stuck somewhere, even going the weekend, I could try to pick some spots. So, yeah, this is the first time we’ve done a lot of this, by the way, so I feel like even getting to a point where we have all those components by Wednesday, it’s a really amazing case study.

141 00:16:43.060 00:16:45.849 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s also one thing that I want to try.

142 00:16:45.880 00:16:51.150 Uttam Kumaran: To do when we’re there is maybe even, like, see if they’re down to do a case study with us.

143 00:16:51.210 00:16:54.090 Uttam Kumaran: just on this, and, like, we can get a quote from Catherine.

144 00:16:54.170 00:16:57.530 Uttam Kumaran: that’d be awesome, so…

145 00:16:58.500 00:16:59.110 Amber Lin: Okay.

146 00:16:59.340 00:17:09.250 Amber Lin: Cool, sounds good. I mean, the remaining stuff is mostly working with Awash on some access stuff, so feel free to drop if you’re busy.

147 00:17:09.550 00:17:11.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, thank you guys.

148 00:17:11.569 00:17:12.719 Amber Lin: Cool, okay, thanks for your time.

149 00:17:12.720 00:17:13.125 Uttam Kumaran: That’s…

150 00:17:14.160 00:17:18.490 Amber Lin: I wish I need help on…

151 00:17:18.780 00:17:22.990 Amber Lin: One for the site, like, adding metadata, and then…

152 00:17:23.349 00:17:34.389 Amber Lin: Maybe I need a bit of help on the dashboard. So I’m trying to set the dbt thing up, and…

153 00:17:34.610 00:17:36.359 Amber Lin: Let me see…

154 00:17:37.440 00:17:40.759 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, set up the dbt, and then maybe…

155 00:17:40.940 00:17:45.089 Awaish Kumar: You can use Ashwani’s time tomorrow to…

156 00:17:45.480 00:17:47.660 Awaish Kumar: to whatever help you need, right? I…

157 00:17:48.160 00:17:56.299 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah. I know you’re busy. I think the PR’s still not merged, so should I just go ahead and merge it?

158 00:17:56.300 00:17:56.940 Awaish Kumar: Total.

159 00:17:57.420 00:18:06.760 Awaish Kumar: The problem is, I’m… looking at this, and I see that CICD pipelines take way more time than they…

160 00:18:07.190 00:18:08.939 Awaish Kumar: They were taking before.

161 00:18:09.980 00:18:15.999 Awaish Kumar: It seems… I don’t know, it seems like maybe we pushed a lot of changes at the same time?

162 00:18:17.320 00:18:22.480 Awaish Kumar: And then what happened was… Warehouse got, because we’re using one single warehouse.

163 00:18:22.630 00:18:26.829 Awaish Kumar: For all the PR, so all the runs are queued, and then…

164 00:18:26.970 00:18:33.060 Awaish Kumar: It’s taking a lot of time. We also have to… Work on CICD.

165 00:18:33.210 00:18:42.479 Awaish Kumar: But what… that’s what… that’s why what happened is my PR, that didn’t finish the run, and it didn’t materialize the tables in… in…

166 00:18:43.050 00:18:44.550 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.

167 00:18:45.110 00:18:46.540 Amber Lin: Okay, I see.

168 00:18:47.040 00:18:50.780 Amber Lin: When do you think that will be… that will be there?

169 00:18:52.090 00:18:54.540 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I’m just working on that right now.

170 00:18:54.770 00:18:57.650 Awaish Kumar: Okay. Running it, so yeah, it…

171 00:18:58.260 00:19:03.030 Awaish Kumar: I don’t think it’ll be there today, so work on anything else then. Okay.

172 00:19:03.930 00:19:17.330 Amber Lin: Yeah, sounds good. Then I’ll work on the dbt stuff. I was trying to set up the things I need in the end file. The environment file asked me to have a private key, and the public key.

173 00:19:17.450 00:19:20.400 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I showed you the private key.

174 00:19:20.510 00:19:23.330 Awaish Kumar: in this, oh!

175 00:19:23.330 00:19:28.210 Amber Lin: Oh, you’re using that private key… okay, sorry. So… wait…

176 00:19:28.390 00:19:33.640 Awaish Kumar: It also, also says what user You should be using.

177 00:19:33.640 00:19:38.340 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, fantastic, I will, I will use that. That makes sense.

178 00:19:38.630 00:19:39.240 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

179 00:19:39.540 00:19:43.600 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, that’s… That’s all my questions for now.

180 00:19:45.420 00:19:48.220 Amber Lin: Alright, I’ll ping you in the channel if I need. Thank you.

181 00:19:48.730 00:19:51.819 Awaish Kumar: Thank you. I’ll let you know once the codex adoption thing fixed.

182 00:19:51.820 00:19:53.389 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, thanks.

183 00:19:53.620 00:19:54.430 Amber Lin: Bye!