Meeting Title: Brainforge x Eden AI Project Sync Date: 2026-05-07 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Davis Dunham
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1 00:08:19.750 ⇒ 00:08:21.060 Davis Dunham: What’s it, Mustafa?
2 00:08:23.970 ⇒ 00:08:25.270 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how’s it going?
3 00:08:26.290 ⇒ 00:08:27.909 Davis Dunham: Pretty good, man, sorry I’m late.
4 00:08:28.500 ⇒ 00:08:29.610 Mustafa Raja: Oh, no worries.
5 00:08:30.810 ⇒ 00:08:36.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I figured you might, you might start working late or something, that’s why you’re not joining.
6 00:08:39.100 ⇒ 00:08:40.779 Davis Dunham: What’d say one more time, sorry.
7 00:08:41.720 ⇒ 00:08:49.849 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I, I, I thought you, you might, you might, your working hours might be a little bit later, so you might, might have not joined yet.
8 00:08:50.360 ⇒ 00:08:52.040 Mustafa Raja: What are you working on?
9 00:08:53.100 ⇒ 00:08:56.920 Davis Dunham: Yeah, I’ve been, I finished last night around…
10 00:08:59.480 ⇒ 00:09:05.630 Davis Dunham: I’m not actually sure where I stopped last night. It was a bit late. A bit late.
11 00:09:06.700 ⇒ 00:09:13.480 Davis Dunham: Coming from, doing, like, service industry stuff.
12 00:09:14.580 ⇒ 00:09:23.349 Davis Dunham: Before, you know… it, I get off at around, like, 1AM sometimes.
13 00:09:23.900 ⇒ 00:09:29.139 Davis Dunham: I’d say pretty consistently, so… My, my entire…
14 00:09:29.740 ⇒ 00:09:32.309 Davis Dunham: Schedule is shifted late, but that’ll…
15 00:09:32.650 ⇒ 00:09:38.710 Davis Dunham: That will fix itself once I’m, fully done with the… with Sammy’s.
16 00:09:41.080 ⇒ 00:09:46.760 Davis Dunham: Either way, let’s see here… How are you feeling, man?
17 00:09:47.520 ⇒ 00:09:50.979 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m feeling pretty good. I’m working on the…
18 00:09:51.340 ⇒ 00:09:54.739 Mustafa Raja: Brain fudge work stuff, getting it up and running, you know?
19 00:09:56.950 ⇒ 00:09:59.649 Mustafa Raja: And then some… some client work also.
20 00:09:59.970 ⇒ 00:10:04.209 Mustafa Raja: So that’s how… that’s how my usual day looks like.
21 00:10:05.450 ⇒ 00:10:06.580 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man.
22 00:10:07.580 ⇒ 00:10:14.759 Davis Dunham: Yeah, Utam was… Talking about, like, the, allocation.
23 00:10:14.940 ⇒ 00:10:17.920 Davis Dunham: That’s cool, man, so you’re having to split time between…
24 00:10:18.870 ⇒ 00:10:23.359 Davis Dunham: This platform work, and then also… Client work as well.
25 00:10:23.830 ⇒ 00:10:24.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
26 00:10:25.500 ⇒ 00:10:26.490 Davis Dunham: Cool, man.
27 00:10:27.410 ⇒ 00:10:29.700 Davis Dunham: What, what projects are you on?
28 00:10:30.610 ⇒ 00:10:34.070 Mustafa Raja: I, the one other project that I’m on is…
29 00:10:34.380 ⇒ 00:10:42.600 Mustafa Raja: For Eden AI, and, Eden, you can say, is a, is an, they have an online pharmacy.
30 00:10:43.540 ⇒ 00:10:51.240 Mustafa Raja: They have a lot of data that, you know, their COO wants, Boom…
31 00:10:51.460 ⇒ 00:10:55.779 Mustafa Raja: to integrate such a way that he can talk to it, you know? So, classic try.
32 00:10:55.780 ⇒ 00:10:56.170 Davis Dunham: -
33 00:10:56.510 ⇒ 00:11:01.490 Mustafa Raja: With some other strategies, and… That is what we are working on right now.
34 00:11:04.430 ⇒ 00:11:05.260 Davis Dunham: Cool.
35 00:11:08.940 ⇒ 00:11:14.980 Davis Dunham: That’s, that’s sick, man. And so what does that look like? Is that… is that essentially making, like, a whole…
36 00:11:17.180 ⇒ 00:11:19.789 Mustafa Raja: So we have a chat interface for them.
37 00:11:20.300 ⇒ 00:11:24.420 Mustafa Raja: And then integrating their data sources and stuff like that.
38 00:11:26.230 ⇒ 00:11:34.360 Mustafa Raja: And then, the thing is that they… The CEO wants the…
39 00:11:34.690 ⇒ 00:11:38.649 Mustafa Raja: No, doesn’t really want the data that he has access to, but
40 00:11:38.890 ⇒ 00:11:47.369 Mustafa Raja: the conversations that his employees are in, or in the meetings that his employees are in. So we have,
41 00:11:48.470 ⇒ 00:11:54.559 Mustafa Raja: We set up a service account that is able to access all,
42 00:11:56.320 ⇒ 00:12:02.949 Mustafa Raja: A set of, a set of accounts that, for the meetings and, calendars and stuff.
43 00:12:04.380 ⇒ 00:12:12.080 Mustafa Raja: We have a rag over it, and for some tools, they’re just directly connecting with Google’s services.
44 00:12:13.150 ⇒ 00:12:13.950 Davis Dunham: herdin’.
45 00:12:14.310 ⇒ 00:12:19.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for now, what he is using is Claude Gowork.
46 00:12:19.690 ⇒ 00:12:22.160 Mustafa Raja: And we won’t beat that.
47 00:12:24.870 ⇒ 00:12:26.459 Davis Dunham: We’d say the last part again?
48 00:12:26.940 ⇒ 00:12:37.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, what he’s using right now is Cloudco, right? And we want to build a system that is at least at par with it.
49 00:12:38.120 ⇒ 00:12:41.200 Davis Dunham: Okay, I heard he’s it in Cloud Code for, like, talking with the data.
50 00:12:41.560 ⇒ 00:12:42.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
51 00:12:42.610 ⇒ 00:12:53.120 Mustafa Raja: I mean, with broadcode, he isn’t able to access his employees’ accounts, right? But we can. We have an edge over that.
52 00:12:54.130 ⇒ 00:13:01.139 Mustafa Raja: We also have an edge over semantic search. Claude isn’t able to do that, because Google doesn’t support that with the API itself, you know.
53 00:13:01.620 ⇒ 00:13:02.570 Davis Dunham: Yeah.
54 00:13:04.460 ⇒ 00:13:05.490 Davis Dunham: That’s cool.
55 00:13:06.690 ⇒ 00:13:07.659 Davis Dunham: Really cool.
56 00:13:08.990 ⇒ 00:13:14.219 Davis Dunham: And so… Curious, what does that look like?
57 00:13:14.410 ⇒ 00:13:16.460 Davis Dunham: For, like, the searchable data, what kind of…
58 00:13:16.870 ⇒ 00:13:23.340 Davis Dunham: What kind of format is the data taking? Is it, like a… Vector embedding?
59 00:13:23.680 ⇒ 00:13:24.470 Mustafa Raja: It is.
60 00:13:25.570 ⇒ 00:13:32.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. For the embeddings, it is, it is vector embeddings, yeah. And we are using…
61 00:13:32.630 ⇒ 00:13:34.990 Mustafa Raja: Postgres and Cloud SQL.
62 00:13:35.120 ⇒ 00:13:36.759 Mustafa Raja: In GCP.
63 00:13:37.890 ⇒ 00:13:38.650 Davis Dunham: Cool.
64 00:13:41.790 ⇒ 00:13:42.889 Davis Dunham: Very cool.
65 00:13:44.290 ⇒ 00:13:47.610 Davis Dunham: That’s awesome, man.
66 00:13:48.010 ⇒ 00:13:48.670 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
67 00:13:48.670 ⇒ 00:13:51.830 Davis Dunham: And so, and what is, is it…
68 00:13:51.970 ⇒ 00:13:57.100 Davis Dunham: Is it just you on the project, or is it you and a team of… People.
69 00:13:57.100 ⇒ 00:14:03.810 Mustafa Raja: me and a team of you. We, we have 2 more people, on, on the project, yeah.
70 00:14:04.490 ⇒ 00:14:09.810 Davis Dunham: Cool, man, and so… I guess I’m curious, how is that, how is the work?
71 00:14:09.950 ⇒ 00:14:11.230 Davis Dunham: like, divided.
72 00:14:12.480 ⇒ 00:14:16.860 Mustafa Raja: I mean, for the development, mostly I’d work on the development.
73 00:14:16.860 ⇒ 00:14:17.240 Davis Dunham: Oh, dude.
74 00:14:17.240 ⇒ 00:14:19.910 Mustafa Raja: Emails for strategy and stuff, you know?
75 00:14:20.260 ⇒ 00:14:23.779 Mustafa Raja: Unless I’m talking somewhere, then I’ll, you know, ask for some help.
76 00:14:25.890 ⇒ 00:14:27.179 Davis Dunham: Heard. Like, cool.
77 00:14:29.230 ⇒ 00:14:30.560 Davis Dunham: That makes sense, man.
78 00:14:31.050 ⇒ 00:14:38.089 Davis Dunham: That’s awesome, dude. That’s an impressive split and work between that and…
79 00:14:38.270 ⇒ 00:14:42.480 Davis Dunham: getting through, these sprints that Utom has us on.
80 00:14:43.710 ⇒ 00:14:46.169 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, hopefully we can get you on some projects also.
81 00:14:47.130 ⇒ 00:14:54.460 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man. Yeah, that’s, definitely the goal. I, I think…
82 00:14:54.600 ⇒ 00:15:04.899 Davis Dunham: I think within, like, a couple weeks here, I’ll be a lot more, comfortable. I’m already… I already feel like I’m learning a lot more, and just, well.
83 00:15:05.470 ⇒ 00:15:10.570 Davis Dunham: Beyond even just learning, just getting more comfortable with kind of the… The setup of the company.
84 00:15:11.210 ⇒ 00:15:16.699 Davis Dunham: In terms of… you know, at this point, like, Utam’s asking me to…
85 00:15:17.430 ⇒ 00:15:24.789 Davis Dunham: like, the Build the Slack Assistant, or just upgrade the Slack Assistant, and…
86 00:15:25.150 ⇒ 00:15:32.330 Davis Dunham: Last night I was trying to… Connect it to…
87 00:15:33.120 ⇒ 00:15:35.360 Davis Dunham: Turbo puffer, like he had mentioned.
88 00:15:35.360 ⇒ 00:15:35.720 Mustafa Raja: Oh.
89 00:15:35.720 ⇒ 00:15:36.310 Davis Dunham: comparison.
90 00:15:36.310 ⇒ 00:15:36.950 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
91 00:15:37.640 ⇒ 00:15:44.240 Davis Dunham: Getting access to, the vector embedding database, and… I was, like.
92 00:15:44.960 ⇒ 00:15:51.320 Davis Dunham: trying to do this, and I, like, realized that… The turbo puffer…
93 00:15:54.220 ⇒ 00:16:04.869 Davis Dunham: I don’t know what the problem was, but there was something where, essentially, It wanted to… Access Turbo Puffer.
94 00:16:05.140 ⇒ 00:16:14.270 Davis Dunham: through… the, like, Brainforge platform… deployment on Vercel.
95 00:16:15.180 ⇒ 00:16:17.300 Davis Dunham: That’s how you say it, right? Verso?
96 00:16:17.880 ⇒ 00:16:22.480 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s how we say it, but I think the platform is actually hosted on a railway.
97 00:16:23.640 ⇒ 00:16:28.739 Davis Dunham: I’m pretty sure the platform is hosted on Versal now, or Versal.
98 00:16:30.060 ⇒ 00:16:31.320 Mustafa Raja: Because…
99 00:16:32.340 ⇒ 00:16:36.990 Davis Dunham: There’s two different deployments, and everything… everything’s been telling me.
100 00:16:37.380 ⇒ 00:16:44.580 Davis Dunham: because there is… it is hosted on Railway as well, but I think that there might have been some issues with it or something, and so the platform is being hosted on…
101 00:16:44.940 ⇒ 00:16:47.250 Davis Dunham: Verse… Vercel, specifically.
102 00:16:47.490 ⇒ 00:16:49.809 Davis Dunham: And everything else is hosted on Railway.
103 00:16:52.720 ⇒ 00:16:58.189 Mustafa Raja: I see the domain is still connected, so I think we are serving it from railway.
104 00:16:58.510 ⇒ 00:17:07.839 Mustafa Raja: Interesting. It may be UTM’s, in Utam’s roadmap to move it, to Versal, but I don’t think that it is, it has been moved yet.
105 00:17:08.380 ⇒ 00:17:09.649 Mustafa Raja: It may be on the roof.
106 00:17:09.650 ⇒ 00:17:10.180 Davis Dunham: Awesome.
107 00:17:10.569 ⇒ 00:17:17.129 Davis Dunham: I have… I’ve… because that’s what I thought initially, and, I… they were just… they were two separate,
108 00:17:17.390 ⇒ 00:17:20.589 Davis Dunham: instances where I was…
109 00:17:21.119 ⇒ 00:17:28.300 Davis Dunham: working on something, and was asking about the platform being hosted on a railway, and the bot did some…
110 00:17:29.420 ⇒ 00:17:34.170 Davis Dunham: Looking, and then it was like, actually the platform is on… Versal.
111 00:17:34.700 ⇒ 00:17:37.439 Davis Dunham: But it also just could have been wrong.
112 00:17:38.090 ⇒ 00:17:41.649 Davis Dunham: Either way, it wanted to point…
113 00:17:42.050 ⇒ 00:17:45.090 Davis Dunham: the Slack assistant at, like, the API route.
114 00:17:46.770 ⇒ 00:17:48.480 Davis Dunham: For…
115 00:17:49.400 ⇒ 00:17:50.450 Mustafa Raja: Also for…
116 00:17:50.450 ⇒ 00:17:51.180 Davis Dunham: search.
117 00:17:51.500 ⇒ 00:18:06.030 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, also for, Turbo Puffer, I think it may… it may just want to look into the configuration on how we did configure it, in platform. That is why it was asking, to look into platform.
118 00:18:08.510 ⇒ 00:18:10.119 Davis Dunham: Yeah, that’s true.
119 00:18:12.350 ⇒ 00:18:18.869 Davis Dunham: That’s true. And well, and the… I think it was just claiming that the only thing that was being hosted on Versal
120 00:18:19.130 ⇒ 00:18:28.849 Davis Dunham: Was the actual… like, Forge page. I don’t know, like, the Brainforge platform, like a web page, specifically.
121 00:18:29.680 ⇒ 00:18:38.900 Davis Dunham: Not like the rest of the services that run. But again, it might have just been wrong. It confused me when it said it. I was also quite late, so…
122 00:18:39.340 ⇒ 00:18:46.419 Davis Dunham: But it wanted to… It wanted to point it at, like, the…
123 00:18:49.770 ⇒ 00:18:57.579 Davis Dunham: the… API route, Associated with the, like, platform website.
124 00:18:58.330 ⇒ 00:19:04.290 Davis Dunham: For, like, the global search, because, like, that apparently is being offered through the…
125 00:19:05.450 ⇒ 00:19:13.789 Davis Dunham: hosted site, instead of, like, directly querying Turbo Puffer, and I was like, oh yeah, that works. But…
126 00:19:16.330 ⇒ 00:19:21.520 Davis Dunham: it just… it, like, it aimed it at that, and then at some point I was trying to…
127 00:19:21.840 ⇒ 00:19:31.990 Davis Dunham: add, another knowledge-like base to Turbo Puffer, because it didn’t contain the… Like, knowledge and…
128 00:19:32.660 ⇒ 00:19:35.880 Davis Dunham: Like, standards section of the repo.
129 00:19:37.800 ⇒ 00:19:43.230 Davis Dunham: Because they’re not… Those aren’t packaged with…
130 00:19:44.460 ⇒ 00:19:49.129 Davis Dunham: The, like, deployment of the website, which makes sense, because it’s just… it’d be, like, dead weight.
131 00:19:49.530 ⇒ 00:19:53.730 Davis Dunham: Plus just, like, an actual keyword search.
132 00:19:53.850 ⇒ 00:19:57.370 Davis Dunham: Through all those files is, like, kind of slow, honestly.
133 00:19:58.060 ⇒ 00:20:05.390 Davis Dunham: And so I just added that, too. I added the… knowledge and… standards.
134 00:20:05.920 ⇒ 00:20:08.940 Davis Dunham: like, directories, essentially, to Turbo Puffer.
135 00:20:09.620 ⇒ 00:20:12.900 Davis Dunham: But then…
136 00:20:15.660 ⇒ 00:20:26.159 Davis Dunham: that wasn’t going to work for the API route that was already being offered, because the API route’s only set up for the other two knowledge graphs on Turbo Puffer, so I had to just…
137 00:20:26.280 ⇒ 00:20:35.519 Davis Dunham: connect that directly from using the Turbo Puffer API, which worked just fine, which is, like, why didn’t we use the Turbo Puffer API in the first place?
138 00:20:37.600 ⇒ 00:20:42.729 Davis Dunham: Which there was some kind of issue where it wouldn’t return any kind of… it wouldn’t return any…
139 00:20:42.970 ⇒ 00:20:51.129 Davis Dunham: like, knowledge graphs from… terrible buffer initially. Either way,
140 00:20:51.400 ⇒ 00:20:57.429 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man, just a lot of, like, services, like… sorry, long-winded, long-winded, explanation for me on…
141 00:20:57.700 ⇒ 00:21:00.799 Davis Dunham: I think the main thing I’m learning is,
142 00:21:01.220 ⇒ 00:21:05.430 Davis Dunham: Kinda just, like, the… the setup, like, where everything exists.
143 00:21:05.620 ⇒ 00:21:07.579 Davis Dunham: When I’m asked to do something.
144 00:21:08.580 ⇒ 00:21:12.209 Davis Dunham: what services do I need to know about that are external?
145 00:21:12.570 ⇒ 00:21:20.580 Davis Dunham: To, like, you know, or, internal, whatever, but, like… that we use.
146 00:21:20.810 ⇒ 00:21:23.919 Davis Dunham: that I need to be able to integrate things with.
147 00:21:26.930 ⇒ 00:21:27.750 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
148 00:21:29.300 ⇒ 00:21:33.099 Mustafa Raja: So… What’s the plan for today for you?
149 00:21:34.310 ⇒ 00:21:39.189 Davis Dunham: Plan for today is… Finish the Slack app.
150 00:21:39.800 ⇒ 00:21:42.160 Davis Dunham: I’m trying to get the approval.
151 00:21:42.290 ⇒ 00:21:46.960 Davis Dunham: approval bit working.
152 00:21:47.440 ⇒ 00:21:49.869 Davis Dunham: If I have it.
153 00:21:50.110 ⇒ 00:22:00.790 Davis Dunham: It can do, you can search within the embeddings for… the knowledge database…
154 00:22:01.450 ⇒ 00:22:04.729 Davis Dunham: Global search, and then also transcripts.
155 00:22:05.670 ⇒ 00:22:07.870 Davis Dunham: So that’s pretty dope.
156 00:22:09.880 ⇒ 00:22:11.870 Davis Dunham: Let me see real quick here…
157 00:22:14.160 ⇒ 00:22:16.050 Davis Dunham: I don’t actually have the PDR.
158 00:22:16.270 ⇒ 00:22:21.050 Davis Dunham: Or PRD, sorry, pulled up in front of me right now, but…
159 00:22:22.460 ⇒ 00:22:25.659 Davis Dunham: I gotta get the approval pipeline working, because it’s still not…
160 00:22:26.840 ⇒ 00:22:29.530 Davis Dunham: seen any messages, and I’m pretty sure the reason is because…
161 00:22:30.510 ⇒ 00:22:36.479 Davis Dunham: two, permissions that the app needs on Slack are not,
162 00:22:37.460 ⇒ 00:22:40.119 Davis Dunham: Granted. So I’m gonna message Tom here.
163 00:22:40.870 ⇒ 00:22:42.949 Davis Dunham: Or, actually, do you have access to that?
164 00:22:45.910 ⇒ 00:22:48.999 Mustafa Raja: So, what exactly do you need? I may have access.
165 00:22:49.000 ⇒ 00:22:56.100 Davis Dunham: It’s editing… it’s editing the app permissions within, like, the apps.slack Page.
166 00:22:57.210 ⇒ 00:22:59.289 Mustafa Raja: Let me share my screen.
167 00:23:03.130 ⇒ 00:23:05.970 Mustafa Raja: So, were you able to get access to this, Don?
168 00:23:10.030 ⇒ 00:23:11.440 Davis Dunham: Still no.
169 00:23:11.580 ⇒ 00:23:12.830 Davis Dunham: Which is odd.
170 00:23:17.880 ⇒ 00:23:24.970 Mustafa Raja: It should be… Is it gonna Slack commands or something?
171 00:23:25.490 ⇒ 00:23:26.300 Mustafa Raja: Nope.
172 00:23:27.770 ⇒ 00:23:30.570 Davis Dunham: It’s, event subscriptions.
173 00:23:33.130 ⇒ 00:23:35.350 Mustafa Raja: What is that? Even… oh, this one.
174 00:23:36.850 ⇒ 00:23:38.310 Mustafa Raja: Okay…
175 00:23:42.330 ⇒ 00:23:43.859 Mustafa Raja: So, do we…
176 00:23:43.860 ⇒ 00:23:56.120 Davis Dunham: subs… Yeah, subscribe to Bot Events… And it’s gonna be… Let me see real quick… What happened?
177 00:24:00.650 ⇒ 00:24:01.500 Davis Dunham: Oh.
178 00:24:09.310 ⇒ 00:24:13.440 Davis Dunham: Cool, actually, it’s… it’s working, but only in the private channels. I need,
179 00:24:14.960 ⇒ 00:24:18.770 Davis Dunham: Dang it, I had a, a draft.
180 00:24:19.060 ⇒ 00:24:20.459 Davis Dunham: Let me see real quick.
181 00:24:22.430 ⇒ 00:24:27.440 Davis Dunham: And then Slack just ate my draft. Honestly, Slack’s kind of… Buggy.
182 00:24:28.110 ⇒ 00:24:29.010 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
183 00:24:40.010 ⇒ 00:24:45.960 Davis Dunham: Okay, I need… the… message…
184 00:24:46.230 ⇒ 00:24:51.020 Davis Dunham: groups, but let me just… give me… give me just one second, I’m so sorry.
185 00:24:51.880 ⇒ 00:24:52.890 Mustafa Raja: No worries.
186 00:24:53.720 ⇒ 00:24:57.930 Davis Dunham: Well, I just had it in a drafted message on Slack, and then…
187 00:25:00.020 ⇒ 00:25:03.389 Davis Dunham: I resized the window, and it just deleted the message, and it still.
188 00:25:03.390 ⇒ 00:25:04.740 Mustafa Raja: Showing as a draft.
189 00:25:06.560 ⇒ 00:25:11.390 Davis Dunham: But, it just doesn’t exist anymore.
190 00:25:16.940 ⇒ 00:25:17.730 Davis Dunham: Go.
191 00:25:32.100 ⇒ 00:25:36.109 Davis Dunham: There we go. And then, okay, I need message.channels.
192 00:25:37.410 ⇒ 00:25:39.930 Davis Dunham: I already see message.groups.
193 00:25:40.730 ⇒ 00:25:46.560 Davis Dunham: But I also need… Message.channels.
194 00:26:00.770 ⇒ 00:26:01.789 Davis Dunham: There we go.
195 00:26:03.640 ⇒ 00:26:05.619 Davis Dunham: And that should be it, man.
196 00:26:06.090 ⇒ 00:26:08.790 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so only messages orch channels, yeah?
197 00:26:09.360 ⇒ 00:26:10.060 Davis Dunham: Yes.
198 00:26:10.560 ⇒ 00:26:21.760 Davis Dunham: Because, yeah, message.groups is what allows… for, the… LA, cool.
199 00:26:31.130 ⇒ 00:26:32.820 Mustafa Raja: But Kyotam needs to do this.
200 00:26:33.480 ⇒ 00:26:34.350 Davis Dunham: Alright, cool.
201 00:26:34.810 ⇒ 00:26:36.910 Mustafa Raja: Both of them needs to reinstall this app.
202 00:26:38.030 ⇒ 00:26:39.090 Davis Dunham: I’ll message him right now.
203 00:26:39.550 ⇒ 00:26:40.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
204 00:26:42.900 ⇒ 00:26:47.779 Davis Dunham: Cool, man, though, but the, permissions thing exactly is exactly what I needed.
205 00:26:47.910 ⇒ 00:26:49.990 Davis Dunham: On the, approval.
206 00:26:50.690 ⇒ 00:26:53.220 Davis Dunham: Channel right now, it actually is working.
207 00:26:53.440 ⇒ 00:26:55.710 Davis Dunham: But only working private channels.
208 00:26:56.450 ⇒ 00:27:00.840 Davis Dunham: The bot is already a member of…
209 00:27:01.950 ⇒ 00:27:09.159 Davis Dunham: But yeah, with this one, essentially, I set it up instead of having, instead of having keywords as…
210 00:27:09.480 ⇒ 00:27:14.509 Davis Dunham: like, a gate for it, I just actually have it picking 1 out of every 8 messages randomly.
211 00:27:15.590 ⇒ 00:27:22.380 Davis Dunham: And then replying to that, and then adding it, asking it to prove or, you know, reject pipeline, because the goal is to get…
212 00:27:22.490 ⇒ 00:27:25.649 Davis Dunham: Actual data that we can use to train
213 00:27:26.060 ⇒ 00:27:30.590 Davis Dunham: A lightweight model that determines whether or not it answers, correct?
214 00:27:32.510 ⇒ 00:27:33.380 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
215 00:27:37.260 ⇒ 00:27:39.299 Davis Dunham: Cool. What’s your plan today?
216 00:27:40.210 ⇒ 00:27:44.980 Mustafa Raja: My plan is to, deploy whatever
217 00:27:45.230 ⇒ 00:27:49.320 Mustafa Raja: I have for, brick purge work.
218 00:27:49.500 ⇒ 00:27:54.610 Mustafa Raja: And then, there is some client work also that I need to look into.
219 00:27:56.340 ⇒ 00:27:57.060 Davis Dunham: Cool, man.
220 00:27:57.060 ⇒ 00:27:58.900 Mustafa Raja: It’s going to be my day, yeah.
221 00:28:00.290 ⇒ 00:28:01.180 Davis Dunham: Lovely.
222 00:28:01.310 ⇒ 00:28:03.679 Davis Dunham: And what time is it over there right now?
223 00:28:04.130 ⇒ 00:28:06.029 Mustafa Raja: It is 8 PM.
224 00:28:06.800 ⇒ 00:28:07.720 Davis Dunham: 8pm?
225 00:28:07.960 ⇒ 00:28:09.000 Davis Dunham: Hardman.
226 00:28:09.480 ⇒ 00:28:11.570 Davis Dunham: How, how late do you work normally?
227 00:28:14.320 ⇒ 00:28:16.079 Mustafa Raja: Till… 6 AM?
228 00:28:16.750 ⇒ 00:28:19.140 Davis Dunham: 6 AM? Heard, man. Overnight.
229 00:28:19.880 ⇒ 00:28:20.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
230 00:28:21.200 ⇒ 00:28:25.359 Davis Dunham: I, I understand, I’ve been doing, the till 6 a.m.
231 00:28:26.920 ⇒ 00:28:29.650 Davis Dunham: Heh, workflow over here as well, which…
232 00:28:29.650 ⇒ 00:28:31.060 Mustafa Raja: Oh, no way.
233 00:28:31.950 ⇒ 00:28:34.240 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man. Yeah, it’s been,
234 00:28:36.290 ⇒ 00:28:41.230 Davis Dunham: you know, I mean, I keep waking up kind of late, just because my schedule shifted, and then…
235 00:28:41.480 ⇒ 00:28:48.029 Davis Dunham: I start working, man, and then, you know, if I get kind of on a project, if I’m in a flow state, it’s hard to stop.
236 00:28:48.470 ⇒ 00:28:48.829 Mustafa Raja: used to cook.
237 00:28:48.830 ⇒ 00:28:49.630 Davis Dunham: Load one.
238 00:28:49.950 ⇒ 00:28:55.570 Davis Dunham: When I used to code with clawed code, at least it would hit… I’d hit a usage limit at some point, but at this point, it’s like…
239 00:28:55.730 ⇒ 00:28:58.869 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, there is no usage limit now, so…
240 00:28:58.870 ⇒ 00:29:02.800 Davis Dunham: Yeah, exactly, I can keep just… Hitting that API.
241 00:29:05.820 ⇒ 00:29:09.339 Mustafa Raja: I actually never get to use plot code, how is it?
242 00:29:10.150 ⇒ 00:29:14.150 Davis Dunham: Dude, it’s… it’s… it’s real good. It’s expensive, though.
243 00:29:14.920 ⇒ 00:29:16.600 Davis Dunham: And, like… Yeah, I’ve heard that.
244 00:29:17.770 ⇒ 00:29:20.870 Mustafa Raja: The basic one? Yeah. Go on, go on.
245 00:29:21.350 ⇒ 00:29:27.589 Davis Dunham: Oh, It’s real… it’s really smart. Like, I feel like it just does…
246 00:29:27.800 ⇒ 00:29:29.679 Davis Dunham: A really good job of…
247 00:29:30.090 ⇒ 00:29:35.150 Davis Dunham: considering things that some of the other bots just don’t even, like, think about.
248 00:29:35.720 ⇒ 00:29:43.729 Davis Dunham: And I would say it’s closer to… with the other bots, they’re, like, really smart bots. With Claude, if you, at least if you’re using, like, Oaks.
249 00:29:44.330 ⇒ 00:29:50.500 Davis Dunham: Feels legitimately like a… Kind of a developer in tandem.
250 00:29:51.660 ⇒ 00:29:53.439 Davis Dunham: Which is…
251 00:29:54.000 ⇒ 00:30:00.309 Davis Dunham: super cool, but, I will say that it’s… you know, if I’m on Opus, and I’m doing some, like.
252 00:30:00.970 ⇒ 00:30:03.379 Davis Dunham: work on something I might, like…
253 00:30:03.730 ⇒ 00:30:10.600 Davis Dunham: You have to be very careful about how much is in context within, like, your chat and, like.
254 00:30:11.930 ⇒ 00:30:17.639 Davis Dunham: other stuff, because I’ve had it where I’ve literally eaten the entire… my entire usage limit for, like.
255 00:30:18.290 ⇒ 00:30:22.270 Davis Dunham: You know, a 5-hour period, and it’s like, you just have to wait for 5 hours now.
256 00:30:22.530 ⇒ 00:30:26.490 Davis Dunham: In, like, under 20 minutes.
257 00:30:29.840 ⇒ 00:30:30.600 Mustafa Raja: Oh.
258 00:30:31.190 ⇒ 00:30:33.630 Davis Dunham: Which is, like, insanely fast.
259 00:30:34.180 ⇒ 00:30:43.690 Mustafa Raja: So, yes, comparing it with… so, you have now a good, good, experience with OpenGordo, right?
260 00:30:45.080 ⇒ 00:30:46.719 Mustafa Raja: How do you compare it with Open Group?
261 00:30:47.440 ⇒ 00:30:52.400 Davis Dunham: I’d say that, OpenCode is… Definitely a little bit…
262 00:30:53.360 ⇒ 00:30:58.140 Davis Dunham: The harness itself is definitely a little bit…
263 00:30:58.720 ⇒ 00:31:03.169 Davis Dunham: I don’t know, not jankier, but it’s just not as, it’s not as…
264 00:31:04.190 ⇒ 00:31:12.149 Davis Dunham: polished. Like, the harness itself. The Claude Code harness is so nice, because I can be like, hey, save this as a memory.
265 00:31:13.060 ⇒ 00:31:18.639 Davis Dunham: And it’ll, like, manage all of that. I’m sure that OpenCode has, like, a similar feature, but…
266 00:31:18.880 ⇒ 00:31:23.770 Davis Dunham: Like, I was trying to set up the open code, the MCP for linear.
267 00:31:24.150 ⇒ 00:31:28.659 Davis Dunham: And… within the Brainforge platform.
268 00:31:28.980 ⇒ 00:31:36.450 Davis Dunham: like, directory that’s easier to do, but outside of that, there were no MCPs already set up. It was, like, the MCP…
269 00:31:36.590 ⇒ 00:31:45.260 Davis Dunham: the JSON file that contained, like, the information for, like, how to set up the MCPs just, like, didn’t exist, and so no MCPs are on it at all.
270 00:31:45.700 ⇒ 00:31:50.870 Davis Dunham: And maybe it’s because I installed it in, like, a different directory, I’m not sure. All I know is that in my home directory.
271 00:31:51.120 ⇒ 00:31:52.859 Davis Dunham: Installing MCPs.
272 00:31:53.230 ⇒ 00:31:55.849 Davis Dunham: or add EMCPs. Is,
273 00:31:57.480 ⇒ 00:32:05.710 Davis Dunham: currently a no-go. I have to do something, the actual JSON file, and I asked it, I said, hey, open code, seems like there’s an issue here, can you fix it for me?
274 00:32:06.080 ⇒ 00:32:08.149 Davis Dunham: And I think I was using, like, Kimi.
275 00:32:08.580 ⇒ 00:32:21.479 Davis Dunham: 2.6 or, yeah, GLM 5.1 or something, which is one of the better, some of the better models on OpenCode. And, it just couldn’t figure it out. And it… also, there’s a possibility that it had to do with…
276 00:32:22.940 ⇒ 00:32:27.720 Davis Dunham: my permission status on linear, but I’m pretty sure it was literally just, like.
277 00:32:31.530 ⇒ 00:32:39.190 Davis Dunham: an issue where it just wasn’t documented well, what I was actually asking for, because I was very clear on what I was asking for. I said I wanted the OAuth.
278 00:32:39.600 ⇒ 00:32:46.489 Davis Dunham: MCP-enabled for linear, and I gave it, like, the URL to point at, and it just…
279 00:32:46.700 ⇒ 00:32:55.700 Davis Dunham: Seemingly couldn’t do that, but that being said, Last night, working on… This lacked assistant.
280 00:32:56.390 ⇒ 00:32:59.749 Davis Dunham: Man, you’ll tell them to do something, and they’ll just go.
281 00:33:01.120 ⇒ 00:33:05.549 Davis Dunham: For all the logical backend stuff, it works great.
282 00:33:05.820 ⇒ 00:33:13.550 Davis Dunham: I’d say the one… the largest gap that I can tell, really, is…
283 00:33:14.160 ⇒ 00:33:18.910 Davis Dunham: There’s a little bit of, like, the… Intelligence.
284 00:33:19.190 ⇒ 00:33:22.450 Davis Dunham: But mostly, man, Claude’s really good at, like, design stuff.
285 00:33:23.430 ⇒ 00:33:24.260 Mustafa Raja: Oh.
286 00:33:24.470 ⇒ 00:33:27.119 Mustafa Raja: There’s now Claude Design also, right?
287 00:33:27.740 ⇒ 00:33:31.280 Davis Dunham: Yeah, which I looked into, I’m not sure exactly.
288 00:33:31.280 ⇒ 00:33:32.240 Mustafa Raja: I am the youth.
289 00:33:32.240 ⇒ 00:33:33.129 Davis Dunham: case for it.
290 00:33:34.320 ⇒ 00:33:39.970 Mustafa Raja: I mean, it may be just the wireframes for the product, right?
291 00:33:41.860 ⇒ 00:33:42.470 Davis Dunham: Yeah, I mean.
292 00:33:42.470 ⇒ 00:33:52.169 Mustafa Raja: I mean, what I don’t like about OpenCode is, as a context, you know, a context Context gathers up.
293 00:33:52.430 ⇒ 00:34:00.719 Mustafa Raja: open code, the generation becomes quite slow, which I don’t like at all, yeah.
294 00:34:00.840 ⇒ 00:34:04.029 Mustafa Raja: We can compact the context.
295 00:34:04.250 ⇒ 00:34:06.679 Mustafa Raja: And then it, you know…
296 00:34:07.350 ⇒ 00:34:12.960 Mustafa Raja: The generation speed, you know, gets up, but after, like.
297 00:34:13.159 ⇒ 00:34:17.729 Mustafa Raja: 4 or 5 prompts, it’s… it’s still the same, so…
298 00:34:18.179 ⇒ 00:34:20.629 Mustafa Raja: This is something that bothers me.
299 00:34:22.480 ⇒ 00:34:26.969 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man, it’s, I kept hitting this weird,
300 00:34:28.030 ⇒ 00:34:31.870 Davis Dunham: like, rate error. Like, rate limit on,
301 00:34:32.340 ⇒ 00:34:36.890 Davis Dunham: It was specifically on GLM 5.1, but it… I don’t know why, but it was just…
302 00:34:38.020 ⇒ 00:34:39.889 Mustafa Raja: I’ve never hated, to be honest.
303 00:34:40.630 ⇒ 00:34:46.739 Davis Dunham: Yeah, well, it wasn’t even me, like, it wasn’t like I was sending messages too fast, it was just, for some reason.
304 00:34:47.080 ⇒ 00:34:55.700 Davis Dunham: And it could have been an open code quirk, I’m not sure, but I was… I was just coding yesterday, and I would send a message, and it would just start thinking, and then all of a sudden, a little, like, red…
305 00:34:55.850 ⇒ 00:35:06.480 Davis Dunham: box would show up, and it’d be like, you hit your rate limit, trying again in 5 seconds, and then it would, like, just stop thinking for a second. And then in 5 seconds, it just would start, like, thinking again. So…
306 00:35:07.040 ⇒ 00:35:10.369 Davis Dunham: Kinda weird, but… It hasn’t done it.
307 00:35:10.570 ⇒ 00:35:12.849 Davis Dunham: We didn’t do it after that point, so…
308 00:35:15.360 ⇒ 00:35:19.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I would try, what’s it called,
309 00:35:21.210 ⇒ 00:35:24.870 Mustafa Raja: open… oh, sorry. I would try a Claude goat.
310 00:35:25.550 ⇒ 00:35:26.830 Mustafa Raja: Personally.
311 00:35:27.030 ⇒ 00:35:34.149 Mustafa Raja: Since you said that, it’s pretty good. And I have never tried it, so I’m just curious, you know, how it feels, like, you know.
312 00:35:34.950 ⇒ 00:35:37.810 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man. Do you have access to Cloud Code?
313 00:35:38.480 ⇒ 00:35:39.520 Mustafa Raja: No, I’ll get it.
314 00:35:40.510 ⇒ 00:35:41.899 Davis Dunham: Yeah, man, check it out.
315 00:35:42.540 ⇒ 00:35:48.240 Davis Dunham: Check it out, cause it’s, I will say it is… it’s… I… I did most of my,
316 00:35:49.390 ⇒ 00:35:52.580 Davis Dunham: like, I guess… Professional style.
317 00:35:52.900 ⇒ 00:36:01.260 Davis Dunham: like, where I had a goal in mind, and somebody to answer to, at least, with Clawed code prior, and I feel like I was,
318 00:36:02.150 ⇒ 00:36:03.590 Davis Dunham: A little spoiled.
319 00:36:03.930 ⇒ 00:36:05.290 Davis Dunham: Because…
320 00:36:07.430 ⇒ 00:36:09.479 Mustafa Raja: That’s ni- that’s nice.
321 00:36:11.130 ⇒ 00:36:12.779 Davis Dunham: Heard man yet. Let me know how you like it.
322 00:36:13.290 ⇒ 00:36:14.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. At some point.
323 00:36:14.210 ⇒ 00:36:17.900 Davis Dunham: Maybe we can, get, UTOM, too.
324 00:36:18.560 ⇒ 00:36:22.339 Davis Dunham: You get, like, a subscription for us, a team subscription or something for us.
325 00:36:23.470 ⇒ 00:36:24.070 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
326 00:36:26.380 ⇒ 00:36:30.470 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I think we are at time, so… .
327 00:36:31.070 ⇒ 00:36:32.180 Davis Dunham: Yes, sir.
328 00:36:33.000 ⇒ 00:36:35.899 Davis Dunham: Wait, cool, man, if you need anything, let me know.
329 00:36:36.270 ⇒ 00:36:41.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, likewise. Also, have a pretty good day.
330 00:36:42.900 ⇒ 00:36:44.170 Davis Dunham: Thanks, man, you too.
331 00:36:44.760 ⇒ 00:36:45.750 Mustafa Raja: Thank you!
332 00:36:46.420 ⇒ 00:36:47.629 Davis Dunham: Bye. Bye, Musa.
333 00:36:47.630 ⇒ 00:36:48.280 Mustafa Raja: Brain.
334 00:36:50.170 ⇒ 00:36:51.939 Mustafa Raja: It was nice meeting you. Thank you.
335 00:36:52.840 ⇒ 00:36:53.540 Davis Dunham: Yes, sir.