Meeting Title: Brainforge Skill Development Sync Date: 2026-05-05 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Michele Altomare
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1 00:00:27.020 ⇒ 00:00:28.190 Michele Altomare: Oh, shoot.
2 00:00:28.980 ⇒ 00:00:29.990 Michele Altomare: B.
3 00:00:31.870 ⇒ 00:00:35.930 Brylle Girang: Oh, man, I am… so…
4 00:00:37.470 ⇒ 00:00:42.590 Brylle Girang: swamp, I’m not sure what’s happening, but I’m really sorry I wasn’t able to get back to you.
5 00:00:42.590 ⇒ 00:00:55.930 Michele Altomare: Dude, you’re good. If you’re… let me… there’s background noise coming out of my headphones, let me turn this off. Dude, if you’re too swamped today, we can slide this to a different day. I know there’s a lot of things going on.
6 00:00:56.090 ⇒ 00:00:59.809 Brylle Girang: I, I don’t think, we’ll be able to, like.
7 00:00:59.930 ⇒ 00:01:05.710 Brylle Girang: maximize the full 1 hour, but I still want to make sure that we get this chance to, like.
8 00:01:05.830 ⇒ 00:01:14.000 Brylle Girang: unblock, wherever you’re blocked, and then make sure that I fully understand where we are at. I’m looking at, like, the jam.
9 00:01:15.160 ⇒ 00:01:19.209 Michele Altomare: There’s, yeah, there’s a lot of notes on there. I can just go straight to the,
10 00:01:20.400 ⇒ 00:01:26.789 Michele Altomare: the essentials. That was, like, equally things for us to look at together, also for me to kind of organize thoughts.
11 00:01:27.310 ⇒ 00:01:30.429 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I think, I think one thing that’s…
12 00:01:31.590 ⇒ 00:01:39.160 Brylle Girang: glaring here is that I can see that you talked with Utam, and are we on the same page? Like, before we start creating our own
13 00:01:39.340 ⇒ 00:01:44.040 Brylle Girang: Like, our own workflows, we try to make the existing workflows our own first.
14 00:01:44.480 ⇒ 00:01:46.550 Michele Altomare: Exactly. Exactly.
15 00:01:46.960 ⇒ 00:01:50.869 Michele Altomare: Does that feel easier, more straightforward with you?
16 00:01:51.350 ⇒ 00:01:52.490 Michele Altomare: Also.
17 00:01:53.100 ⇒ 00:02:01.169 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I think, you know, before we… before we invent a new wheel, let’s try to make sure that we understand the wheel first.
18 00:02:01.500 ⇒ 00:02:03.949 Michele Altomare: Exactly, exactly.
19 00:02:04.100 ⇒ 00:02:08.679 Michele Altomare: It’s the same way that when we had met, maybe last week, you had mentioned, it’s like.
20 00:02:08.850 ⇒ 00:02:10.650 Michele Altomare: Let’s just figure out how to get…
21 00:02:10.800 ⇒ 00:02:14.670 Michele Altomare: The individual skills working on their own before we…
22 00:02:15.220 ⇒ 00:02:17.959 Michele Altomare: You know, try to combine 8 of them at the same time.
23 00:02:18.160 ⇒ 00:02:29.050 Brylle Girang: Yes, exactly. Okay, I think we’re set there. So, can you give me a rundown again? I think one thing that you’re unblocked, that you’re blocked with is the Instagram auth.
24 00:02:29.330 ⇒ 00:02:31.680 Brylle Girang: Is, is, are there other things?
25 00:02:32.900 ⇒ 00:02:38.149 Michele Altomare: The Instagram auth, yes, here, all the old.
26 00:02:38.530 ⇒ 00:02:42.260 Michele Altomare: I think screen sharing might be the easiest way to run through this.
27 00:02:42.410 ⇒ 00:02:43.050 Brylle Girang: Sure.
28 00:02:43.270 ⇒ 00:02:46.829 Michele Altomare: Because I’ve been trying to build some of the…
29 00:02:48.920 ⇒ 00:02:55.370 Michele Altomare: I processed what you took about, saying, focus on building a very thorough skill first.
30 00:02:55.520 ⇒ 00:02:59.510 Michele Altomare: Yeah. For any part of the creative production stack.
31 00:02:59.800 ⇒ 00:03:03.139 Michele Altomare: One of the first things that I’ve been trying to figure out is how to get, like.
32 00:03:03.240 ⇒ 00:03:13.199 Michele Altomare: transcription from pieces of content online, notably Instagram, because that’s where a lot of the inspiration that we’ve been looking at comes from.
33 00:03:13.450 ⇒ 00:03:18.979 Michele Altomare: So for that specific skill, Instagram auth was a blocker.
34 00:03:19.470 ⇒ 00:03:20.850 Michele Altomare: That was in cursor.
35 00:03:21.440 ⇒ 00:03:24.320 Michele Altomare: But I’ll screen share something here real fast.
36 00:03:25.110 ⇒ 00:03:25.720 Brylle Girang: Okay.
37 00:03:26.600 ⇒ 00:03:29.079 Michele Altomare: Just in the interest of time.
38 00:03:29.830 ⇒ 00:03:36.490 Michele Altomare: Can you see something? What do you see so far? You should just be seeing, like, my ARC browser for Zoom.
39 00:03:37.900 ⇒ 00:03:39.410 Brylle Girang: I can see your art browser now.
40 00:03:42.770 ⇒ 00:04:01.720 Michele Altomare: this is a bit beyond the scope, but I just… I needed to show somebody this, because I was working on it this morning. Just to think exactly as you said, using the existing models that there are, how we can work backwards from there. And I’ve used things before. I hadn’t touched it in a couple months, and it’s just gotten way better. Look at these photos of Utam.
41 00:04:02.150 ⇒ 00:04:03.240 Brylle Girang: That is cool.
42 00:04:03.490 ⇒ 00:04:09.379 Michele Altomare: This was creepy. This, okay, this one is super creepy. This was, like, very disturbing.
43 00:04:10.370 ⇒ 00:04:16.560 Michele Altomare: But bro, that looks… Is that not Utom?
44 00:04:18.610 ⇒ 00:04:20.030 Brylle Girang: Don’t I say this?
45 00:04:20.470 ⇒ 00:04:22.920 Michele Altomare: No, there’s… I literally made this in the last…
46 00:04:23.080 ⇒ 00:04:25.489 Brylle Girang: It’s gonna freak out my mad.
47 00:04:25.490 ⇒ 00:04:26.160 Michele Altomare: it up.
48 00:04:26.350 ⇒ 00:04:33.489 Michele Altomare: It’s the same thing, I don’t know if you would ever, like, put your face, maybe for something with L&D or wanting to generate stuff, but it’s scary.
49 00:04:35.050 ⇒ 00:04:37.550 Brylle Girang: I don’t know, I’m conflicted here.
50 00:04:37.550 ⇒ 00:04:40.929 Michele Altomare: Maybe this happens to everybody anyway, you know? But…
51 00:04:41.860 ⇒ 00:04:45.709 Michele Altomare: If your internet is online, somebody will clone you.
52 00:04:46.150 ⇒ 00:04:50.170 Michele Altomare: Dude, it’s crazy. It’s crazy what this stuff can do. Exactly.
53 00:04:50.700 ⇒ 00:05:02.589 Michele Altomare: So, the only reason, one, because I was looking at this earlier, two, it’s, like, funny, I thought you found it interesting, but three, again, I’m trying to back into, like, what the end product looks like.
54 00:05:02.900 ⇒ 00:05:06.519 Michele Altomare: for Brainforge, As, like, a deliverable.
55 00:05:06.730 ⇒ 00:05:15.680 Michele Altomare: I am trying to arm, lisa with content that…
56 00:05:16.190 ⇒ 00:05:27.480 Michele Altomare: by whatever means it does it. If it’s something that gets sent out directly, or something that just demonstrates visually in marketing that Brainforge is on the leading edge, that kind of becomes an artifact to show it’s like.
57 00:05:27.970 ⇒ 00:05:36.529 Michele Altomare: Brainforge is a insights company, a data context company, but even at a very small level, even in our marketing, we’re doing them
58 00:05:36.990 ⇒ 00:05:39.830 Michele Altomare: generative stuff exceptionally well. Does that make sense?
59 00:05:40.020 ⇒ 00:05:41.829 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, totally, totally.
60 00:05:42.120 ⇒ 00:05:52.460 Michele Altomare: So anyway, that was just my thinking with this, but I took into consideration everything that we talked about last week. I’ve been trying to look more at the skills and everything.
61 00:05:53.100 ⇒ 00:05:58.640 Michele Altomare: this whole Notion doc is, like, a very long way of saying, okay, There are already creators.
62 00:05:58.940 ⇒ 00:06:01.180 Michele Altomare: You played Super Smash Bros, maybe?
63 00:06:01.180 ⇒ 00:06:01.740 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
64 00:06:01.850 ⇒ 00:06:02.640 Brylle Girang: Okay.
65 00:06:02.640 ⇒ 00:06:05.259 Michele Altomare: So you get the Kirby analogy, hopefully.
66 00:06:05.260 ⇒ 00:06:06.319 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah.
67 00:06:06.770 ⇒ 00:06:20.589 Michele Altomare: But my thinking was, like, okay, if there’s all of these creators that are already doing exceptional, like, these things organically are doing very well, not because for us, Brainforge needs content that does well organically, all our stuff is very niche and one-to-one.
68 00:06:20.590 ⇒ 00:06:30.910 Michele Altomare: But these guys already talk about what we’re trying to build, so one of the logical steps for me, maybe this is in the wrong direction, or it’s in the right direction, let me know what you think.
69 00:06:31.270 ⇒ 00:06:44.940 Michele Altomare: is to, as an exercise for a skill that can be repurposed later, ingest all of their data, or ingest their content, which is explainer content, to then be able to action on it later. Does that make sense?
70 00:06:44.940 ⇒ 00:06:47.309 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. It’s like,
71 00:06:48.310 ⇒ 00:06:54.760 Brylle Girang: I wouldn’t say that this is… this is Caribbean. I’m thinking more of this as sort of a derayment.
72 00:06:55.060 ⇒ 00:06:57.739 Brylle Girang: the remote process, right? Like…
73 00:06:57.740 ⇒ 00:06:59.219 Michele Altomare: array mug? What is that?
74 00:06:59.220 ⇒ 00:07:00.950 Brylle Girang: The Raymond, you don’t know the Raymond?
75 00:07:01.640 ⇒ 00:07:02.580 Michele Altomare: No.
76 00:07:02.580 ⇒ 00:07:03.100 Brylle Girang: Oh, that’s good.
77 00:07:03.100 ⇒ 00:07:04.120 Michele Altomare: Raymond?
78 00:07:05.320 ⇒ 00:07:06.340 Brylle Girang: Yeah, there’s when it’s a…
79 00:07:07.430 ⇒ 00:07:12.169 Brylle Girang: It’s a cartoon character. I don’t know if it’s an anime character or a cartoon character, but…
80 00:07:12.690 ⇒ 00:07:14.949 Michele Altomare: How is this spelled? Oh, you stepped it in the shot.
81 00:07:15.920 ⇒ 00:07:17.010 Brylle Girang: Yeah,
82 00:07:17.500 ⇒ 00:07:26.440 Brylle Girang: I think we’re… we’re gonna dive deep here, but Kirby, as I understand, Kirby, like, ingests… ingests once, and then, throws it away.
83 00:07:26.930 ⇒ 00:07:27.540 Brylle Girang: After…
84 00:07:27.540 ⇒ 00:07:28.010 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
85 00:07:28.010 ⇒ 00:07:31.130 Brylle Girang: And then the Raymond… the Raymond, the quick
86 00:07:31.690 ⇒ 00:07:43.400 Brylle Girang: Raymond is that it has so many tools, sort of like a kangaroo. It is an endless pocket. It ingests so many tools, and then tries to get that tools at the right time.
87 00:07:43.970 ⇒ 00:07:44.730 Michele Altomare: Exactly.
88 00:07:44.730 ⇒ 00:07:47.750 Brylle Girang: one tool at a time. But yeah, I think…
89 00:07:48.130 ⇒ 00:07:53.820 Brylle Girang: Just throwing that out, but yeah, I get what you mean, like…
90 00:07:54.370 ⇒ 00:07:58.459 Brylle Girang: You, you have used, like, the last 30 days ago, right?
91 00:07:59.590 ⇒ 00:08:01.510 Michele Altomare: Yes.
92 00:08:01.630 ⇒ 00:08:04.799 Michele Altomare: I called it in the middle of researching something else, but yeah.
93 00:08:04.800 ⇒ 00:08:17.500 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it’s, like, the last 30 days, but for… but for this content, UGC, and then we’re just going to store it somewhere so that, you know, if ever we need it, we get some reference. Is that… is that right?
94 00:08:17.500 ⇒ 00:08:19.370 Michele Altomare: Exactly. Exactly.
95 00:08:19.370 ⇒ 00:08:30.559 Brylle Girang: Okay, now the main challenge here is that these are not… these are not texts. These are from videos, these are from Instagram, and we need to find a way to, like, transcribe this, and then get the metadata from that.
96 00:08:31.210 ⇒ 00:08:32.760 Michele Altomare: Exactly, exactly.
97 00:08:32.760 ⇒ 00:08:33.419 Brylle Girang: Okay.
98 00:08:34.500 ⇒ 00:08:36.769 Brylle Girang: Okay, and then our main block right now is that
99 00:08:37.780 ⇒ 00:08:40.529 Brylle Girang: we can get Instagram running. But,
100 00:08:40.710 ⇒ 00:08:46.019 Brylle Girang: Have we, have we tried, like, other content, like, other content platforms, like, maybe YouTube, Facebook?
101 00:08:46.020 ⇒ 00:08:54.750 Michele Altomare: Yes, yes, yes, yes. So… Excuse me, Ray. I tried to, like.
102 00:08:54.920 ⇒ 00:09:00.830 Michele Altomare: not for the sake of breaking. Break as many things as I could, that way when we were here, you could have just helped me unblock.
103 00:09:01.600 ⇒ 00:09:09.610 Michele Altomare: How… Okay, in here, it gave me a link to… here it is.
104 00:09:10.690 ⇒ 00:09:15.940 Michele Altomare: So I got this working on… YouTube.
105 00:09:16.240 ⇒ 00:09:19.310 Michele Altomare: I know, blitzing a lot of stuff on the screen.
106 00:09:19.410 ⇒ 00:09:25.110 Michele Altomare: I fed it, just called it Kirby Harvest. I guess this was a… I pulled it to make a simple GUI.
107 00:09:27.190 ⇒ 00:09:31.430 Michele Altomare: I fetted this YouTube channel, and then it took all of the…
108 00:09:31.530 ⇒ 00:09:34.569 Michele Altomare: Content that he made, and pulled the transcripts from it.
109 00:09:34.750 ⇒ 00:09:41.580 Michele Altomare: I think some of this came from captions, some of it used Whisper to take the MP3 and then make it into something.
110 00:09:42.860 ⇒ 00:09:43.870 Michele Altomare: But, like…
111 00:09:44.930 ⇒ 00:09:54.750 Michele Altomare: In a practical sense, again, I think if there was a way to aggregate all of this, and then be able to use natural language to ask it questions on the specific stuff it discusses is useful, and then in a meta way.
112 00:09:55.190 ⇒ 00:10:03.419 Michele Altomare: I want to start to document the process of me using the Brainforge tech stack to build this, because it becomes its own case. You see what I mean?
113 00:10:03.590 ⇒ 00:10:05.509 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. I think…
114 00:10:05.790 ⇒ 00:10:13.110 Brylle Girang: I can see that it’s working, I just don’t know yet if this is being ingested in the platform. I think that’s one of your challenges, right?
115 00:10:13.440 ⇒ 00:10:23.459 Michele Altomare: Correct, so that’s also without derailing… back to the memory thing, like, this is all, and I asked Kirscher this, this is all living inside of my documents folder.
116 00:10:23.850 ⇒ 00:10:25.099 Michele Altomare: But I don’t…
117 00:10:26.280 ⇒ 00:10:31.190 Michele Altomare: I’m curious the correct way to set it up so that, you know, this gets stored wherever it needs to be stored.
118 00:10:31.570 ⇒ 00:10:39.490 Michele Altomare: Hmm. I was passing through the Instagram login, Through the terminal, and then…
119 00:10:39.670 ⇒ 00:10:42.499 Michele Altomare: It was, like, timing out, so then it…
120 00:10:42.770 ⇒ 00:10:44.439 Michele Altomare: Told me to, like, try again.
121 00:10:44.570 ⇒ 00:10:46.549 Michele Altomare: Sometime later, that was yesterday.
122 00:10:46.840 ⇒ 00:10:49.489 Michele Altomare: I haven’t tried again today, but…
123 00:10:49.980 ⇒ 00:10:57.209 Brylle Girang: Gotcha, okay. I think… For the Instagram auth, I might need the platform team’s help on that.
124 00:10:57.240 ⇒ 00:11:14.100 Brylle Girang: I’m not yet sure how to fix that, but since we have YouTube running, maybe we can get, you know, other content platforms running. My first thought here is, do you really need, like, sort of a dashboard, like the HTML file? Or do you just need it to be stored somewhere?
125 00:11:14.730 ⇒ 00:11:20.720 Michele Altomare: Is that not necessarily. If you can have a dashboard, great, but that’s secondary to just getting
126 00:11:21.320 ⇒ 00:11:23.729 Michele Altomare: You know, a text folder somewhere.
127 00:11:24.130 ⇒ 00:11:35.690 Brylle Girang: Yeah, okay. Then, I guess this is… this will be the easy fix. Tell Cursor that, hey, the skill, I should save, like, markdown files for each video transcript.
128 00:11:35.910 ⇒ 00:11:40.189 Brylle Girang: In the… in the platform, and find the most relevant folder.
129 00:11:41.160 ⇒ 00:11:46.340 Michele Altomare: Say that again? You’re saying to, say, tell plot talkers to make a skill that saves…
130 00:11:46.490 ⇒ 00:11:49.829 Brylle Girang: No, not make a skill, I think you already have the skill, right?
131 00:11:50.640 ⇒ 00:11:52.060 Brylle Girang: the creator channel.
132 00:11:52.220 ⇒ 00:11:52.950 Brylle Girang: Kirby.
133 00:11:52.950 ⇒ 00:11:54.990 Michele Altomare: Good channel, Kirby, yeah.
134 00:11:54.990 ⇒ 00:11:58.659 Brylle Girang: Yeah, so maybe… can you create a new chat thread?
135 00:11:59.090 ⇒ 00:11:59.930 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
136 00:12:00.570 ⇒ 00:12:03.840 Brylle Girang: Okay, and then, just, just call the, the skill.
137 00:12:04.330 ⇒ 00:12:06.029 Brylle Girang: at Creator Channel Kirby.
138 00:12:07.040 ⇒ 00:12:16.160 Brylle Girang: Okay, and then maybe for this one, let’s use plan, just to make sure that we… we can… we can review it first. Okay, update the skill…
139 00:12:16.460 ⇒ 00:12:21.550 Brylle Girang: The… the output should be individual markdown files for vid… for video.
140 00:12:24.290 ⇒ 00:12:26.340 Brylle Girang: individual markdown files.
141 00:12:26.980 ⇒ 00:12:28.239 Michele Altomare: There we go.
142 00:12:28.290 ⇒ 00:12:29.030 Brylle Girang: Per video.
143 00:12:30.330 ⇒ 00:12:30.850 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
144 00:12:30.850 ⇒ 00:12:31.860 Michele Altomare: Okay.
145 00:12:31.860 ⇒ 00:12:36.240 Brylle Girang: per video, that that should be saved inside the Brainforge platform repo.
146 00:12:37.960 ⇒ 00:12:38.510 Michele Altomare: Good.
147 00:12:41.310 ⇒ 00:12:46.529 Michele Altomare: I tried that, I had no idea if Whisper would work, and it did. So I just heard your voice and put that in.
148 00:12:46.530 ⇒ 00:12:48.020 Brylle Girang: Oh, wow!
149 00:12:48.020 ⇒ 00:12:48.420 Michele Altomare: It’s difficult.
150 00:12:48.420 ⇒ 00:12:50.420 Brylle Girang: That’s nice.
151 00:12:50.620 ⇒ 00:12:51.650 Michele Altomare: Okay. Okay.
152 00:12:51.650 ⇒ 00:12:54.090 Brylle Girang: Let’s try this, and then let’s see how it goes.
153 00:12:54.420 ⇒ 00:12:55.130 Michele Altomare: Good.
154 00:13:13.030 ⇒ 00:13:15.650 Brylle Girang: Oh, by the way, can you, can you stop this one?
155 00:13:16.290 ⇒ 00:13:17.509 Brylle Girang: I forgot to…
156 00:13:17.510 ⇒ 00:13:18.900 Michele Altomare: Yep.
157 00:13:19.250 ⇒ 00:13:23.310 Brylle Girang: Can you, can you edit that, and then just say, UCE plan, the skill.
158 00:13:23.950 ⇒ 00:13:27.439 Brylle Girang: Yeah, just edit use, slash, then, CE.
159 00:13:27.940 ⇒ 00:13:30.589 Brylle Girang: No, let’s call the skill, so delete that.
160 00:13:31.310 ⇒ 00:13:36.320 Brylle Girang: use… Slash C.E.
161 00:13:36.830 ⇒ 00:13:37.770 Brylle Girang: dash plan.
162 00:13:39.380 ⇒ 00:13:41.209 Michele Altomare: Slash plant, or dash plant.
163 00:13:41.210 ⇒ 00:13:42.810 Brylle Girang: tax plan there.
164 00:13:43.540 ⇒ 00:13:44.100 Michele Altomare: Okay.
165 00:13:44.100 ⇒ 00:13:55.340 Brylle Girang: Let’s try running that. So, this is part of, like, the compound engineering workflow that we’re… that we’re going to launch within the team, but basically, compound engineering makes sure that your plan
166 00:13:55.820 ⇒ 00:14:01.079 Brylle Girang: how do you call this? Compounds and ensures that it’s actually using the platform.
167 00:14:01.700 ⇒ 00:14:02.590 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
168 00:14:04.120 ⇒ 00:14:06.220 Brylle Girang: So it’s like planning on steroids.
169 00:14:06.430 ⇒ 00:14:08.490 Michele Altomare: Yeah, interesting.
170 00:14:11.190 ⇒ 00:14:16.950 Michele Altomare: I appreciate the help with this again. What I’m hoping to get to is to just, like, learn enough
171 00:14:17.160 ⇒ 00:14:25.659 Michele Altomare: letters or words of how to use all these tools so that I can just start to form the sentences on my own and need help less. Yeah, yeah.
172 00:14:25.660 ⇒ 00:14:26.640 Brylle Girang: Oh, of course.
173 00:14:28.260 ⇒ 00:14:29.640 Brylle Girang: Etsy, okay.
174 00:14:30.960 ⇒ 00:14:34.139 Brylle Girang: So you don’t have the per item, I’m gonna export and update.
175 00:14:36.590 ⇒ 00:14:40.319 Brylle Girang: Video Postner Knowledge Sales Content Creator Studies, okay.
176 00:14:47.650 ⇒ 00:14:52.130 Brylle Girang: Also, that’s a plan, okay. Can you review that plan and check if…
177 00:14:54.210 ⇒ 00:14:56.090 Michele Altomare: Where is the.
178 00:14:56.090 ⇒ 00:14:58.689 Brylle Girang: There, let me annotate.
179 00:14:58.850 ⇒ 00:15:00.160 Brylle Girang: So here’s the plan.
180 00:15:00.640 ⇒ 00:15:01.860 Brylle Girang: You can just scroll up.
181 00:15:02.510 ⇒ 00:15:03.410 Michele Altomare: Okay, okay.
182 00:15:10.090 ⇒ 00:15:12.639 Brylle Girang: Single merge corpus with MD harvest.
183 00:15:16.070 ⇒ 00:15:19.779 Brylle Girang: Harvest directories are getting ignored. Why?
184 00:15:22.970 ⇒ 00:15:27.050 Brylle Girang: Well, that’s why. So, the main reason why it was not saving in the…
185 00:15:27.250 ⇒ 00:15:30.600 Brylle Girang: in the platform is because it’s part of Gitignored.
186 00:15:30.920 ⇒ 00:15:38.880 Brylle Girang: So it basically tells GitHub, hey, I’m creating these documents, do not save this in GitHub.
187 00:15:40.180 ⇒ 00:15:42.000 Michele Altomare: Does it default to that?
188 00:15:42.500 ⇒ 00:15:48.840 Brylle Girang: I’m not sure why it did that. It shouldn’t have done that, so I think cursor betrayed you on that one.
189 00:15:49.260 ⇒ 00:15:50.440 Michele Altomare: Okay.
190 00:15:50.980 ⇒ 00:15:53.799 Brylle Girang: What is… let’s see,
191 00:15:58.730 ⇒ 00:16:00.530 Brylle Girang: Everything is… okay.
192 00:16:08.540 ⇒ 00:16:15.559 Brylle Girang: Okay, I mean, yeah, let’s try building this. I don’t… I don’t think you need OPOS for this, though, so just change this to maybe Sonnet.
193 00:16:17.890 ⇒ 00:16:18.280 Michele Altomare: spill.
194 00:16:18.280 ⇒ 00:16:23.639 Brylle Girang: It’s… Yeah, let’s just build. If it doesn’t work, then, you know, let’s update it.
195 00:16:31.870 ⇒ 00:16:39.540 Michele Altomare: It feels like a useful exercise for my own selfish interest to just see the skill creation process and, like.
196 00:16:40.090 ⇒ 00:16:42.239 Michele Altomare: Bulletproofing it to some degree.
197 00:16:42.350 ⇒ 00:16:47.320 Michele Altomare: And then with all of the generative stuff, right, like…
198 00:16:47.700 ⇒ 00:16:55.059 Michele Altomare: I was following… this already made some videos, we don’t have to look at them, but the videos themselves that it made were also already pretty good.
199 00:16:55.260 ⇒ 00:16:55.730 Brylle Girang: Okay.
200 00:16:55.730 ⇒ 00:17:00.410 Michele Altomare: And I was just following best practices that came from a lot of those creators, but…
201 00:17:00.840 ⇒ 00:17:09.440 Michele Altomare: if there was a way where I was, like, invoke what Andrew and Thomas and Amanda did to solve this specific problem for me.
202 00:17:09.890 ⇒ 00:17:13.519 Michele Altomare: maybe it’s overkill, but I would think that it could be a useful
203 00:17:13.819 ⇒ 00:17:16.770 Michele Altomare: A way of, like, spot-fixing bugs or problems.
204 00:17:16.770 ⇒ 00:17:17.130 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
205 00:17:17.130 ⇒ 00:17:19.390 Michele Altomare: Because these people have made thousands of these videos.
206 00:17:19.920 ⇒ 00:17:20.510 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
207 00:17:42.820 ⇒ 00:17:47.879 Michele Altomare: Do you recommend Or is it just personal preference? I know, I guess, one…
208 00:17:48.680 ⇒ 00:17:54.650 Michele Altomare: we should be doing this in open code. I should be doing this in open code because it’s cheaper, and just… Brainforge has that context.
209 00:17:55.380 ⇒ 00:18:02.790 Michele Altomare: Inside of, cursor, any benefits of doing everything inside of the agent window, or not necessarily?
210 00:18:03.430 ⇒ 00:18:13.689 Brylle Girang: I don’t use Agent’s Window. I think OTAM uses that. It’s mainly down to personal preference. I think it’s confusing, or I think I haven’t had
211 00:18:14.190 ⇒ 00:18:16.249 Brylle Girang: Like, get myself used to it.
212 00:18:16.360 ⇒ 00:18:25.039 Brylle Girang: What I’m doing is I’m still using OpenCode, but I’m… I’m still using cursor at the same time. So we have a… we have a terminal here.
213 00:18:25.200 ⇒ 00:18:28.449 Brylle Girang: So I’m just going to run open code in the terminal.
214 00:18:29.870 ⇒ 00:18:30.710 Michele Altomare: Okay.
215 00:18:31.900 ⇒ 00:18:34.539 Michele Altomare: So you’ll call open code from inside of here.
216 00:18:34.770 ⇒ 00:18:40.560 Brylle Girang: Yes, exactly. So, I get the benefits of Courser, I get the benefits of OpenCode at the same time.
217 00:18:40.710 ⇒ 00:18:43.960 Brylle Girang: I think I, I like how cursor…
218 00:18:44.450 ⇒ 00:18:49.879 Brylle Girang: Allows me to see, like, the changes, and allows me to access files.
219 00:18:50.150 ⇒ 00:18:51.359 Michele Altomare: They’re at me.
220 00:18:51.360 ⇒ 00:18:54.089 Brylle Girang: Which open code can us help me with?
221 00:18:54.930 ⇒ 00:18:55.950 Michele Altomare: Interesting.
222 00:19:01.860 ⇒ 00:19:04.859 Michele Altomare: I had also asked this in the Slack, but…
223 00:19:05.420 ⇒ 00:19:08.280 Michele Altomare: Is there a time and place, or is it…
224 00:19:09.620 ⇒ 00:19:13.679 Michele Altomare: Dangerous to check this box where you can unsandbox it?
225 00:19:13.940 ⇒ 00:19:17.119 Brylle Girang: No, I don’t think so. I think Uta and me, we’re just
226 00:19:17.870 ⇒ 00:19:23.219 Brylle Girang: allow everything every time, because it’s going to be counterproductive to click allow.
227 00:19:23.810 ⇒ 00:19:24.450 Brylle Girang: Anytime.
228 00:19:25.370 ⇒ 00:19:26.210 Michele Altomare: Correct.
229 00:19:27.770 ⇒ 00:19:33.350 Michele Altomare: But this is, like, if I uncheck this because it’s running on my personal computer, this won’t, like, blow up the computer.
230 00:19:33.940 ⇒ 00:19:35.940 Michele Altomare: Would it, most likely?
231 00:19:37.550 ⇒ 00:19:42.220 Michele Altomare: My biggest concern is that if it, like, overwrites files without me knowing.
232 00:19:42.490 ⇒ 00:19:50.980 Brylle Girang: Oh yeah, yeah, if you’re… if this is open claw, and if you’re running local model, then it’s definitely dangerous.
233 00:19:51.160 ⇒ 00:19:52.019 Brylle Girang: I wouldn’t do that.
234 00:19:52.020 ⇒ 00:19:52.700 Michele Altomare: at the bottom.
235 00:19:56.940 ⇒ 00:20:04.270 Michele Altomare: One of the other, still related to this, I had taken, and I think it was actually within the same…
236 00:20:04.530 ⇒ 00:20:08.019 Michele Altomare: conversation thread, or no, it was in Building Kirby, but…
237 00:20:10.770 ⇒ 00:20:19.280 Michele Altomare: what you saw in that GUI, that 50 videos I pulled their transcripts from, I said, okay, do an analysis of this, so then I can talk over it.
238 00:20:19.520 ⇒ 00:20:22.939 Michele Altomare: in natural language, it said that it needed an API key.
239 00:20:23.240 ⇒ 00:20:25.480 Michele Altomare: It recommended Azure, which I…
240 00:20:25.810 ⇒ 00:20:34.240 Michele Altomare: For whatever reason. But it was basically saying, it’s like, okay, you now need a model to continue, and I wasn’t sure how to work around that.
241 00:20:34.890 ⇒ 00:20:44.949 Michele Altomare: Because I don’t… I think I have Olama installed here on the machine, but I wasn’t sure if for security it made sense to run it, or how to give it back to open code. Does that make sense?
242 00:20:45.600 ⇒ 00:20:54.440 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that makes sense. I… I don’t know why that’s happening, but I don’t think it will be a problem here once we use Markdown files instead.
243 00:20:54.560 ⇒ 00:21:00.120 Brylle Girang: It’s just going to be a file that, you know, the model will be… will be reading, and there’s no need for…
244 00:21:00.350 ⇒ 00:21:01.690 Brylle Girang: API keys.
245 00:21:02.500 ⇒ 00:21:06.100 Michele Altomare: Before the Markdown files, did you catch what it was doing before then?
246 00:21:06.240 ⇒ 00:21:07.639 Michele Altomare: Then, like, what was.
247 00:21:07.640 ⇒ 00:21:08.040 Brylle Girang: No.
248 00:21:08.040 ⇒ 00:21:09.530 Michele Altomare: Energy was breaking.
249 00:21:09.670 ⇒ 00:21:10.170 Michele Altomare: Yo.
250 00:21:10.170 ⇒ 00:21:19.619 Brylle Girang: what I understood is that it’s using a complex, like, Python code to, like, parse the transcript, and then create an HTML file from that.
251 00:21:19.850 ⇒ 00:21:30.800 Brylle Girang: So, it’s not scalable, because once you get to, like, 1,000 videos, the file will blow up, and we don’t have a good way to track those.
252 00:21:31.270 ⇒ 00:21:31.950 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
253 00:21:37.280 ⇒ 00:21:39.390 Michele Altomare: Does it make sense, though, from, like, a…
254 00:21:39.780 ⇒ 00:21:44.180 Michele Altomare: problem-solution frame, or do you think it’ll be overkill? Like.
255 00:21:44.610 ⇒ 00:21:53.869 Michele Altomare: the idea that I have, and I’m not trying to go super far down the rabbit hole, though, but of aggregating, like, Kirby and creators that have a very specific
256 00:21:54.050 ⇒ 00:21:56.650 Michele Altomare: You know, expertise set.
257 00:21:57.180 ⇒ 00:22:00.440 Michele Altomare: And then being able to ask it directly instead of having to fetch
258 00:22:00.930 ⇒ 00:22:04.010 Michele Altomare: You know, and find specific videos where they discuss it.
259 00:22:05.780 ⇒ 00:22:07.310 Brylle Girang: Sorry, can you come again?
260 00:22:07.680 ⇒ 00:22:08.769 Michele Altomare: Sorry, like, this…
261 00:22:09.590 ⇒ 00:22:19.549 Michele Altomare: does the idea seem sound to you objectively, or does it feel like overkill? Like, her being creators, or very specific people that do…
262 00:22:19.680 ⇒ 00:22:23.620 Michele Altomare: Marketing that we want to model to be able to…
263 00:22:23.760 ⇒ 00:22:28.069 Michele Altomare: You know, scrape and learn from their transcripts directly.
264 00:22:28.900 ⇒ 00:22:31.369 Michele Altomare: Like, context. Is it overkill?
265 00:22:31.780 ⇒ 00:22:48.899 Brylle Girang: No, I don’t think so. I actually think that that’s… that needs to be part of, like, the MVP, the minimum viable product, because if we don’t, then the skill would just go around you… go around the content platform, and then it will not give us, like, the content that we need.
266 00:22:49.150 ⇒ 00:23:05.089 Brylle Girang: But if you give it guardrails, like, hey, only look at the content creators who’s focus on maybe data, etc, then the search will be narrowed down, it uses less tokens, it will be faster, we get better.
267 00:23:05.280 ⇒ 00:23:09.899 Brylle Girang: outputs. I think that should be part of the, like, the first version.
268 00:23:10.060 ⇒ 00:23:11.770 Brylle Girang: Oh, it’s done. Okay.
269 00:23:13.050 ⇒ 00:23:16.340 Brylle Girang: Can you try it out? Like, you know, maybe…
270 00:23:16.720 ⇒ 00:23:21.280 Brylle Girang: Kirby One video for… over the past one day.
271 00:23:22.650 ⇒ 00:23:25.949 Michele Altomare: I would… would the best way to test leads, instead of a new agent.
272 00:23:27.210 ⇒ 00:23:28.060 Brylle Girang: Sorry?
273 00:23:28.680 ⇒ 00:23:31.120 Michele Altomare: The best way to test this would be inside of a new…
274 00:23:32.510 ⇒ 00:23:41.359 Brylle Girang: For me, because, yeah, yeah, I think it’s going to be best practice, because if you… if you run it in an existing
275 00:23:42.080 ⇒ 00:23:46.359 Brylle Girang: chat tab, it will just try to read everything else before it…
276 00:23:48.360 ⇒ 00:23:52.220 Michele Altomare: So it’ll just be the normal creator channel Kirby skill, because we haven’t…
277 00:23:52.480 ⇒ 00:23:55.319 Michele Altomare: It just updated ISCO, right? So this is the one that we’re calling.
278 00:23:55.320 ⇒ 00:23:56.700 Brylle Girang: Yes, yes, yes.
279 00:23:57.120 ⇒ 00:23:57.680 Michele Altomare: Good.
280 00:23:58.490 ⇒ 00:24:03.890 Michele Altomare: But this is calling a folder, or what is it? Yeah. Or is this a skill?
281 00:24:04.850 ⇒ 00:24:10.059 Brylle Girang: And can you, can you delete that, and then let’s… oh, don’t use at, use slash.
282 00:24:10.740 ⇒ 00:24:11.780 Michele Altomare: Slush.
283 00:24:11.780 ⇒ 00:24:12.300 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
284 00:24:13.010 ⇒ 00:24:13.620 Brylle Girang: There we go.
285 00:24:15.380 ⇒ 00:24:16.890 Michele Altomare: Okay.
286 00:24:18.420 ⇒ 00:24:20.790 Brylle Girang: Let’s, let’s try it for one video.
287 00:24:21.750 ⇒ 00:24:26.119 Michele Altomare: Yeah, let me, there’s what’s on.
288 00:24:26.820 ⇒ 00:24:27.749 Michele Altomare: I don’t know.
289 00:24:32.550 ⇒ 00:24:34.999 Michele Altomare: There’s guys everywhere. We’ll use him.
290 00:24:37.120 ⇒ 00:24:42.120 Michele Altomare: I’ll expand… Copies.
291 00:24:43.960 ⇒ 00:24:45.150 Michele Altomare: Simple as that.
292 00:24:45.630 ⇒ 00:24:46.170 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
293 00:24:50.060 ⇒ 00:24:54.659 Brylle Girang: So, the output that we want is that this should save, like, a markdown file in the vault.
294 00:24:56.460 ⇒ 00:24:57.130 Michele Altomare: Okay.
295 00:25:23.150 ⇒ 00:25:27.849 Michele Altomare: Because here, when I’m… B, when I’m approving these commands.
296 00:25:28.490 ⇒ 00:25:33.690 Michele Altomare: And it’s working inside of the… Brain Forge platform directory.
297 00:25:34.240 ⇒ 00:25:37.090 Michele Altomare: Inside the documents folder on my computer.
298 00:25:38.420 ⇒ 00:25:43.830 Michele Altomare: if I check the thing where it’s, like, unsandboxed here, even if something went wrong.
299 00:25:43.950 ⇒ 00:25:50.410 Michele Altomare: one, I imagine there’s, like, guardrails to protect the Brainforge platform, but two, it would not extend past
300 00:25:50.970 ⇒ 00:25:53.160 Michele Altomare: my machine, or I thought it? Yeah.
301 00:25:53.730 ⇒ 00:25:58.070 Brylle Girang: It won’t, it won’t. So, there’s no version control in your machine, so…
302 00:25:58.240 ⇒ 00:26:02.020 Brylle Girang: If it deletes something, you might not… you might not see it.
303 00:26:05.380 ⇒ 00:26:06.630 Michele Altomare: Okay, so what is this?
304 00:26:07.050 ⇒ 00:26:07.740 Brylle Girang: What happened?
305 00:26:07.740 ⇒ 00:26:09.160 Michele Altomare: Okay, so it looks like it did it.
306 00:26:10.170 ⇒ 00:26:13.120 Brylle Girang: Okay, so it was able to curb it, but…
307 00:26:13.440 ⇒ 00:26:15.870 Brylle Girang: Did it create a markdown file? Let’s see.
308 00:26:16.440 ⇒ 00:26:18.040 Brylle Girang: Can you, can you scroll down?
309 00:26:19.010 ⇒ 00:26:19.710 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
310 00:26:23.270 ⇒ 00:26:25.910 Brylle Girang: At the bottom. Okay, one is captured in the repo.
311 00:26:31.390 ⇒ 00:26:32.770 Brylle Girang: What does that mean?
312 00:26:33.020 ⇒ 00:26:41.160 Brylle Girang: So, the skill worked, right? Like, it was able to, like, get us the descriptions and the… and the…
313 00:26:44.020 ⇒ 00:26:45.389 Michele Altomare: So just ask it.
314 00:26:45.390 ⇒ 00:26:46.810 Brylle Girang: Yeah, exactly.
315 00:26:54.860 ⇒ 00:26:55.780 Brylle Girang: Yes.
316 00:26:56.590 ⇒ 00:26:57.960 Brylle Girang: Knowledge sales.
317 00:26:58.840 ⇒ 00:27:00.940 Brylle Girang: Okay, cool, can you…
318 00:27:01.980 ⇒ 00:27:08.310 Brylle Girang: Can you check… can you… can you check number 2? So just click on the link there on file number 2.
319 00:27:08.930 ⇒ 00:27:11.580 Brylle Girang: And it is in Creator Studies. There we go.
320 00:27:12.840 ⇒ 00:27:14.860 Michele Altomare: Great. Fire.
321 00:27:15.260 ⇒ 00:27:16.959 Michele Altomare: There we go.
322 00:27:18.870 ⇒ 00:27:20.710 Michele Altomare: So this is the whole transcript of the video.
323 00:27:20.710 ⇒ 00:27:28.939 Brylle Girang: Yeah, and I think, the beauty of this, if you want a dashboard in the future, we have the markdown files here, we can create a page in the platform.
324 00:27:29.480 ⇒ 00:27:30.120 Michele Altomare: Yes.
325 00:27:30.120 ⇒ 00:27:31.359 Brylle Girang: birthday specifically.
326 00:27:31.730 ⇒ 00:27:42.409 Brylle Girang: So, and then you can see it here. I think the… the one thing that you need to make sure is that every time you run Kirby, and every time that you want to save these transcripts, you need to create a PR for it.
327 00:27:45.040 ⇒ 00:27:46.299 Michele Altomare: Where does it say that?
328 00:27:47.330 ⇒ 00:27:58.999 Brylle Girang: It doesn’t say it here, but that’s, yeah, that’s something that you need to, like, you need to remember, like, if you don’t create a PR, this will only be visible to you, and it will not be visible to everyone else.
329 00:27:59.210 ⇒ 00:28:01.710 Michele Altomare: Because right now, it’s still only visible to me, correct?
330 00:28:01.710 ⇒ 00:28:02.710 Brylle Girang: Yes. Yes.
331 00:28:02.710 ⇒ 00:28:05.640 Michele Altomare: Would I just say, create a PR for this?
332 00:28:05.930 ⇒ 00:28:09.769 Brylle Girang: You can create a new, new tab, new chat window.
333 00:28:13.070 ⇒ 00:28:15.849 Michele Altomare: It’s best practice to create a new chat window, you’re saying, for this?
334 00:28:16.310 ⇒ 00:28:26.949 Brylle Girang: Yes, if it’s not connected, then just create a new chat window. It saves tokens. We have a skill for that, so you can just remove that, and then type slash create PR.
335 00:28:29.380 ⇒ 00:28:31.740 Brylle Girang: There. So just, just run it.
336 00:28:32.080 ⇒ 00:28:36.210 Brylle Girang: So, this skill, I created this skill, and then it makes sure that
337 00:28:36.410 ⇒ 00:28:40.609 Brylle Girang: U, or it categorizes the ongoing changes.
338 00:28:40.820 ⇒ 00:28:44.459 Brylle Girang: And then you get to choose what you want to create a PR for.
339 00:28:48.300 ⇒ 00:28:51.499 Brylle Girang: So there, it tells you, like, hey, these are the changes.
340 00:28:51.740 ⇒ 00:28:54.350 Brylle Girang: What do you want to… what do you want to commit?
341 00:29:00.240 ⇒ 00:29:05.549 Michele Altomare: These are changes that it’s identified from the last time I made a PR. What’s the window?
342 00:29:05.770 ⇒ 00:29:17.119 Brylle Girang: No, these are the changes that are currently uncommitted, so it’s still on your local drive in the Brainforge platform, but it’s not… it’s not in the… in the cloud.
343 00:29:18.090 ⇒ 00:29:21.620 Michele Altomare: So this would have been things I was working on in, like, the last 3 days, basically.
344 00:29:21.930 ⇒ 00:29:24.710 Brylle Girang: It depends, it depends, yeah.
345 00:29:24.710 ⇒ 00:29:25.320 Michele Altomare: Okay.
346 00:29:26.320 ⇒ 00:29:31.479 Brylle Girang: Let me just check this one. I don’t… I’m trying to see if…
347 00:29:31.930 ⇒ 00:29:34.069 Brylle Girang: The transcript is part of this.
348 00:29:34.990 ⇒ 00:29:35.960 Michele Altomare: Okay.
349 00:29:36.480 ⇒ 00:29:37.569 Michele Altomare: Let me see…
350 00:29:37.570 ⇒ 00:29:40.349 Brylle Girang: And I don’t think it is. I think it’s still part of getting.
351 00:29:40.350 ⇒ 00:29:41.630 Michele Altomare: skills…
352 00:29:42.480 ⇒ 00:29:46.309 Brylle Girang: Yeah, there’s none. So, can you… can you right-click on this?
353 00:29:49.780 ⇒ 00:29:53.230 Brylle Girang: And then click, click… where is that?
354 00:29:53.630 ⇒ 00:30:00.069 Brylle Girang: Right, right-click on it again, and then click Add File to Cursor Chat.
355 00:30:02.600 ⇒ 00:30:06.690 Brylle Girang: And then tell cursor, hey, why isn’t this part of the…
356 00:30:08.790 ⇒ 00:30:11.460 Brylle Girang: Why is it this part of the changes?
357 00:30:13.760 ⇒ 00:30:18.420 Brylle Girang: It should tell you something like, hey, this is because this is part of gitignore.
358 00:30:18.530 ⇒ 00:30:19.939 Brylle Girang: Then it should fix it.
359 00:30:24.950 ⇒ 00:30:26.060 Brylle Girang: Sundays.
360 00:30:27.870 ⇒ 00:30:29.390 Brylle Girang: I’ll put us on track.
361 00:30:35.240 ⇒ 00:30:35.970 Brylle Girang: a check.
362 00:30:38.330 ⇒ 00:30:39.810 Brylle Girang: Isaac, goodbye.
363 00:30:44.090 ⇒ 00:30:48.729 Brylle Girang: Okay, well, it’s working properly, so it was false alarm.
364 00:30:48.990 ⇒ 00:30:51.210 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I think this is good,
365 00:30:52.900 ⇒ 00:30:57.960 Brylle Girang: I think you have everything, you have the updated skill, you can just create a PR, so if you scroll up.
366 00:30:58.120 ⇒ 00:31:00.290 Brylle Girang: Or you can, you can tell cursor, hey.
367 00:31:00.990 ⇒ 00:31:05.630 Brylle Girang: Submit the PR for the Kirby… the updates on the Kirby skills.
368 00:31:11.740 ⇒ 00:31:12.400 Michele Altomare: Okay.
369 00:31:14.590 ⇒ 00:31:28.029 Brylle Girang: Yeah, since we have the skill for that, it’s in the same chat window. You can click send, and… so what this will do is this will make sure that the skill that you created, it’s in the platform, everyone can use it. Ray can use it.
370 00:31:29.000 ⇒ 00:31:30.789 Michele Altomare: Yeah, very cool.
371 00:31:31.340 ⇒ 00:31:39.900 Michele Altomare: And from now on, the same Markdown file that was stored inside of sales slash content, on every PR, will it remember?
372 00:31:40.030 ⇒ 00:31:45.690 Michele Altomare: to include that in the commit, or… Yes. We have to tell it, and we’ll remember that, okay.
373 00:31:45.690 ⇒ 00:31:51.730 Brylle Girang: Yes, yes, exactly. So, I think I got this, this is your first time, like, using GitHub, is that right?
374 00:31:51.730 ⇒ 00:31:53.100 Michele Altomare: Yeah. Yeah.
375 00:31:53.100 ⇒ 00:31:56.619 Brylle Girang: So, we… the PR is, like, a pull request.
376 00:31:56.950 ⇒ 00:31:57.570 Brylle Girang: And then…
377 00:31:57.570 ⇒ 00:31:58.190 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
378 00:31:58.190 ⇒ 00:32:06.299 Brylle Girang: I’m just going to, like, trim this down into, like, the simplest terms. We have, like, 3 main actions in GitHub. We have push.
379 00:32:07.100 ⇒ 00:32:09.329 Brylle Girang: Sorry, we have commit.
380 00:32:09.480 ⇒ 00:32:12.520 Brylle Girang: We have push, and we have pull.
381 00:32:12.730 ⇒ 00:32:23.689 Brylle Girang: So, think of it like GitHub is this box. So, we have our own boxes, you have your own box. If you say commit, you’re saying that, hey, I’m going to add an apple to my box.
382 00:32:24.390 ⇒ 00:32:30.870 Brylle Girang: So that’s commit. It means that you’re making sure that a change is going to be part of your next step.
383 00:32:31.260 ⇒ 00:32:39.340 Brylle Girang: If I say push, that means that, hey, this box, I’m going to push this to Utam’s side of the table.
384 00:32:39.720 ⇒ 00:32:43.820 Brylle Girang: It’s only side of the table, but Utam still doesn’t have it.
385 00:32:44.050 ⇒ 00:32:51.049 Brylle Girang: That’s… that’s a PR. So a PR is a pull request. We’re asking Utam, hey Utam, get the apple from my box.
386 00:32:51.610 ⇒ 00:32:52.180 Brylle Girang: And then…
387 00:32:52.180 ⇒ 00:32:52.930 Michele Altomare: Interesting.
388 00:32:52.930 ⇒ 00:33:00.129 Brylle Girang: the box is now… the apple is now within UTAM, UTAM can share it with everyone. So that’s basically how GitHub works.
389 00:33:00.540 ⇒ 00:33:08.390 Michele Altomare: Yeah, yeah. Commit… commit is me taking something from the apple tree, which is… the entire repo.
390 00:33:08.830 ⇒ 00:33:10.619 Brylle Girang: The tree that you planted.
391 00:33:10.930 ⇒ 00:33:15.229 Brylle Girang: Not the reboot, but the tree that you planted. You took an apple, you put.
392 00:33:15.230 ⇒ 00:33:15.820 Michele Altomare: Yeah, sure.
393 00:33:15.820 ⇒ 00:33:16.430 Brylle Girang: Damn.
394 00:33:16.670 ⇒ 00:33:17.799 Brylle Girang: Something like that.
395 00:33:18.500 ⇒ 00:33:19.250 Michele Altomare: Okay.
396 00:33:20.030 ⇒ 00:33:22.090 Michele Altomare: Tracking.
397 00:33:25.020 ⇒ 00:33:34.189 Michele Altomare: Cool, this is a… this is good. I want to try to become as self-sustaining as I can, or self-reliant on this, that way, because I know you have a million other things to do.
398 00:33:34.190 ⇒ 00:33:45.019 Brylle Girang: I mean, the first step should always be you asking me, and then the next step should be you trying to explore things based on what we discussed. So it’s going to be a good learning.
399 00:33:45.220 ⇒ 00:33:46.170 Brylle Girang: They didn’t…
400 00:33:46.170 ⇒ 00:33:49.100 Michele Altomare: For… for the Instagram auth.
401 00:33:49.290 ⇒ 00:33:52.509 Michele Altomare: what would you suggest? Build a ticket for it?
402 00:33:53.060 ⇒ 00:33:58.879 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I suggest reaching out to platform. Do you know how to create, like, a platform ticket?
403 00:33:59.080 ⇒ 00:34:00.659 Brylle Girang: A platform linear ticket?
404 00:34:02.070 ⇒ 00:34:06.520 Michele Altomare: I haven’t had to make one yet. I can make it instead of Slack, right?
405 00:34:06.520 ⇒ 00:34:12.289 Brylle Girang: Yes, inside Slack, you go to Linear Ask, and then you… you’ll have the option there to…
406 00:34:12.870 ⇒ 00:34:20.259 Brylle Girang: like, choose a platform issue or something, and then it will be directed to Utam and the team, so they can look into it.
407 00:34:21.060 ⇒ 00:34:24.590 Brylle Girang: Just… just be… just be descriptive as much as possible.
408 00:34:24.920 ⇒ 00:34:25.989 Michele Altomare: Yup. Yup.
409 00:34:26.630 ⇒ 00:34:30.129 Brylle Girang: And then, yeah, they should, they should prioritize it.
410 00:34:30.370 ⇒ 00:34:30.980 Brylle Girang: Greatening the…
411 00:34:30.980 ⇒ 00:34:31.620 Michele Altomare: Good.
412 00:34:32.040 ⇒ 00:34:43.409 Michele Altomare: Because… it’s difficult, like, you could see Instagram auth being challenging to integrate. Why?
413 00:34:44.790 ⇒ 00:34:48.669 Brylle Girang: Because I don’t under… I don’t know how to do that, so I think that’s the honest…
414 00:34:48.679 ⇒ 00:34:49.089 Michele Altomare: That’s true.
415 00:34:49.929 ⇒ 00:34:55.529 Michele Altomare: Me neither, like… I… yeah, dude, I don’t know.
416 00:34:55.830 ⇒ 00:35:02.560 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I mean, with authentication, I think they will solve this faster than me trying to explore how to do that.
417 00:35:03.060 ⇒ 00:35:09.360 Michele Altomare: the… the people who solve those platform tickets are who? Like, Davis?
418 00:35:09.850 ⇒ 00:35:20.529 Brylle Girang: Yeah, it’s mostly UTAM, it’s mostly UTAM, maybe Davis and Mustafa will jump in, but, historically, it has been UTAM, and UTAM can solve, like, basically everything.
419 00:35:21.170 ⇒ 00:35:22.150 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
420 00:35:23.440 ⇒ 00:35:24.520 Michele Altomare: Interesting.
421 00:35:25.270 ⇒ 00:35:28.539 Brylle Girang: No, this is… As long as, you…
422 00:35:28.690 ⇒ 00:35:41.730 Brylle Girang: you… you can… you can, like, expound on why this is important, and why this is urgent, then they should be able to work on this. But expect some pushback if it’s not… if it’s not clear to them, like, why is this important right now?
423 00:35:42.280 ⇒ 00:35:46.940 Michele Altomare: For sure, for sure. Okay.
424 00:35:49.660 ⇒ 00:35:52.100 Michele Altomare: Cool, that helps, that helps.
425 00:35:53.130 ⇒ 00:36:00.690 Michele Altomare: I’m thinking through that, I’m thinking out loud. The other thing I’m thinking through is, like, okay, I feel some confidence in…
426 00:36:00.990 ⇒ 00:36:02.900 Michele Altomare: Creating the skills unless they, like.
427 00:36:04.890 ⇒ 00:36:12.820 Michele Altomare: invoke authorization, the same way this Instagram login, right? Yeah. The next challenge that I see myself coming up with is, like.
428 00:36:13.110 ⇒ 00:36:23.789 Michele Altomare: the… what we talked about before, it’s like, okay, I have a few skills that work together. Not that work together, but that can work individually. It’s the same way that, like.
429 00:36:24.200 ⇒ 00:36:29.759 Michele Altomare: I know all the individual steps of, like, making this thing, but what takes time is making it.
430 00:36:29.980 ⇒ 00:36:32.370 Michele Altomare: With video, that’s gonna be kind of challenging, but…
431 00:36:33.650 ⇒ 00:36:39.269 Michele Altomare: You had mentioned before using N8N or Make, or maybe explicitly not using those, but…
432 00:36:39.750 ⇒ 00:36:43.819 Michele Altomare: I think that would be the next question, whether for today or for the future, to ask you, like.
433 00:36:44.170 ⇒ 00:36:49.940 Michele Altomare: What do you see being the most effective way for me to… chained.
434 00:36:50.990 ⇒ 00:36:52.920 Michele Altomare: Tasks or skills.
435 00:36:53.030 ⇒ 00:36:56.119 Michele Altomare: together, or do you think I can just figure that out by asking Kirscher?
436 00:36:57.190 ⇒ 00:37:13.290 Brylle Girang: Yeah, you can ask her, sir. I think for me right now, since Otam is fairly busy with the things that he’s doing with client work, I’m guessing the most… the easiest way to, like, get an MVP is via NATN.
437 00:37:13.520 ⇒ 00:37:27.550 Brylle Girang: And I don’t think they’re going to be against it. Like, we haven’t been using N8N for quite some time, but if it’s needed here, just for us to see how it goes, then N8N would be the best option. It’s going to be, like, the easiest way to do…
438 00:37:27.680 ⇒ 00:37:29.990 Brylle Girang: To, like, chain these events.
439 00:37:29.990 ⇒ 00:37:30.710 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
440 00:37:30.710 ⇒ 00:37:41.040 Brylle Girang: In the long term, well, I think the best way is for us to use, like, the open source solutions. I know that you and Otam have been exploring
441 00:37:42.290 ⇒ 00:37:47.189 Brylle Girang: Other open source tools, so that might be… that might be a good… good option.
442 00:37:48.510 ⇒ 00:37:51.750 Michele Altomare: Okay, that makes sense.
443 00:37:53.330 ⇒ 00:37:54.240 Michele Altomare: The Brit…
444 00:37:54.240 ⇒ 00:37:57.890 Brylle Girang: I’m also going to go through this, and then please remind me if…
445 00:37:58.300 ⇒ 00:38:04.120 Brylle Girang: Please remind me to, like, leave comments on the things that I can help out with.
446 00:38:04.590 ⇒ 00:38:07.680 Michele Altomare: Okay, perfect, perfect.
447 00:38:07.880 ⇒ 00:38:13.560 Michele Altomare: No, Lee, this is very helpful, this is very helpful. I’m thinking through this, the way that you use the app, an analogy for…
448 00:38:14.170 ⇒ 00:38:20.019 Michele Altomare: using GitHub was, like, very helpful. I’m just trying to think of a specific example. This is not something that I would literally do, but…
449 00:38:20.180 ⇒ 00:38:22.289 Michele Altomare: To give an example, it’s like, okay.
450 00:38:22.930 ⇒ 00:38:28.890 Michele Altomare: I used this artwork to make, like, the Kirby artwork that I might have sent you for fun, I was messing around.
451 00:38:29.010 ⇒ 00:38:38.610 Michele Altomare: But I was thinking, okay, as an exercise, right, if I, if somebody wanted to go through the entire list of skills, right, wherever they are, maybe this is it.
452 00:38:39.060 ⇒ 00:38:39.610 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
453 00:38:39.960 ⇒ 00:38:42.140 Michele Altomare: The whole list of skills, and then generate
454 00:38:42.490 ⇒ 00:38:52.980 Michele Altomare: you know, 50 images, 100 images, based on each of them, without it hallucinating and without what I would otherwise just use ChatGPT stalling out. Like, what would be…
455 00:38:53.330 ⇒ 00:39:05.299 Michele Altomare: Is that something where I have to consider solving the problem with N8N? Am I overcomplicating it? But you see what I mean? Where it’s like, here’s a task, and then you have to iterate on it multiple times.
456 00:39:05.850 ⇒ 00:39:09.589 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I think we do NAT is not necessary for that.
457 00:39:09.700 ⇒ 00:39:24.869 Brylle Girang: I think one for one, this is not the specific example that you shared. It’s not something that we need to, like, do every week, every day. It’s just going to be, like, one time, create an image for all the skills.
458 00:39:24.880 ⇒ 00:39:25.970 Michele Altomare: Okay, just…
459 00:39:25.970 ⇒ 00:39:36.999 Brylle Girang: create a skill for that, or we can just ask Cursor to do that. Maybe we would need another tool, that’s going to be, like, an acai art, so you might need to use another tool for that, but…
460 00:39:37.000 ⇒ 00:39:46.929 Brylle Girang: Regardless, init n is not the best answer if it’s not going to be something that’s going to be, like, sequential, and at the same time, recurring or repetitive.
461 00:39:47.380 ⇒ 00:39:48.250 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
462 00:39:48.480 ⇒ 00:39:49.560 Michele Altomare: Interesting.
463 00:39:51.350 ⇒ 00:39:57.570 Brylle Girang: And it ends best for, you know, workflows that we need to run, like, every day, every week, every hour.
464 00:39:57.790 ⇒ 00:40:00.070 Brylle Girang: That’s going to be sequential.
465 00:40:00.220 ⇒ 00:40:06.330 Brylle Girang: Well, I think that’s the easiest way to go about it, but there are lots of other options we can use, you know.
466 00:40:06.510 ⇒ 00:40:11.079 Brylle Girang: We can use cursor automations, although it’s not sequential.
467 00:40:11.200 ⇒ 00:40:15.449 Brylle Girang: Maybe we can create a prompt that forces it to be sequential, etc.
468 00:40:15.720 ⇒ 00:40:19.219 Brylle Girang: But any of them is the easiest, because it’s… it’s no code.
469 00:40:19.900 ⇒ 00:40:27.240 Michele Altomare: Okay. Does that feel like an evergreen skill to pick up as far as, for lack of a better word, if it’s the right word, chaining?
470 00:40:27.560 ⇒ 00:40:28.700 Michele Altomare: Actions.
471 00:40:31.580 ⇒ 00:40:38.309 Brylle Girang: It depends. It can be a prompt, it can be a skill, it can be a combination of both, but…
472 00:40:38.470 ⇒ 00:40:44.180 Brylle Girang: it mainly depends on what the sequence will be. But for me, if I’m going to approach it.
473 00:40:44.290 ⇒ 00:40:49.639 Brylle Girang: I would say individual skills, and then a single prompt that chains those skills.
474 00:40:50.870 ⇒ 00:40:51.940 Michele Altomare: Okay.
475 00:40:52.170 ⇒ 00:40:53.219 Michele Altomare: Got it.
476 00:40:56.620 ⇒ 00:40:57.530 Michele Altomare: Cool.
477 00:40:57.840 ⇒ 00:41:04.030 Michele Altomare: That gives me enough, then. The next thing I’m gonna try to do, I think I had shown you this before, was whatever the,
478 00:41:05.330 ⇒ 00:41:18.359 Michele Altomare: as an exercise for chaining, right? This cartoon, this will be the… I’m gonna try to build this today. That’s my mission. I don’t know. If I’m telling you my mission, if I fail my mission, that’ll be sad. But…
479 00:41:19.780 ⇒ 00:41:26.680 Michele Altomare: You think it’s, like… I don’t know, I think of the skills as like, okay, take a news article.
480 00:41:27.200 ⇒ 00:41:31.800 Michele Altomare: Go through it, break up the stories, generate images, and then…
481 00:41:33.220 ⇒ 00:41:33.790 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
482 00:41:33.960 ⇒ 00:41:35.050 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
483 00:41:35.410 ⇒ 00:41:42.700 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I think that’s a good plan, you know. I think you can start this with the last 30-day skill, if we’re trying to go for something like
484 00:41:43.800 ⇒ 00:41:54.269 Brylle Girang: Last 30 days, get all the articles, break it down, a skill to generate, like, the video prompts, a skill to maybe post it directly in Index, or in.
485 00:41:54.270 ⇒ 00:41:54.660 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
486 00:41:54.910 ⇒ 00:41:58.549 Brylle Girang: So, yeah, anything is going to be a good answer for that.
487 00:41:59.080 ⇒ 00:42:00.550 Michele Altomare: For this… for this…
488 00:42:00.550 ⇒ 00:42:03.110 Brylle Girang: For this specific example, yes.
489 00:42:04.060 ⇒ 00:42:20.310 Michele Altomare: And for each of those, before it goes to N8N, you recommend, let’s use open code, right, or cursor, but I make my own agent thread, and I say, in this thread, we’re going to be trying to accomplish this skill. But you think that skills is the way to do it?
490 00:42:20.860 ⇒ 00:42:21.550 Brylle Girang: Yes.
491 00:42:22.510 ⇒ 00:42:23.260 Michele Altomare: Okay.
492 00:42:25.870 ⇒ 00:42:31.130 Michele Altomare: Cool, man. I appreciate you, B. I know I’m processing a lot of this stuff out loud with you in real time.
493 00:42:31.730 ⇒ 00:42:42.510 Brylle Girang: Yeah, it’s fun, like, brainstorming how to do this. I don’t have, like, 100% answers, but I’m more than happy to, like, punish your brains into thinking how we can pull this off.
494 00:42:43.900 ⇒ 00:42:57.720 Brylle Girang: you know, there’s always… there’s… there’s always, like, a ceiling for that. If we’re taking, like, one hour, 2 hours trying to figure out something, let’s ask for help. And that’s what I did. I’m not sure if you have seen my… my… my message, that I… I have…
495 00:42:57.830 ⇒ 00:43:10.960 Brylle Girang: Been having challenges trying to run the platform locally. I have spent, like, 30 minutes, I don’t want to spend any more minutes on that, so I just… I just reached out to Otam. I just reached out to the platform team, hey, I need help.
496 00:43:11.760 ⇒ 00:43:12.600 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
497 00:43:13.630 ⇒ 00:43:20.920 Michele Altomare: For sure. Whatever the rule of thumb is, 30 minutes, an hour, like, that was the same thing while I was…
498 00:43:21.180 ⇒ 00:43:29.020 Michele Altomare: I swear, 3 fucking hours trying to figure out how to get this Instagram all off thing. I was like, this is dumb, I’m gonna even need this. So, pause.
499 00:43:29.410 ⇒ 00:43:33.030 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I mean, if it’s blocking you from, like, going all out, then ask for help.
500 00:43:33.880 ⇒ 00:43:34.700 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
501 00:43:35.580 ⇒ 00:43:40.289 Michele Altomare: Okay, this feels… this feels good. By the way, I showed somebody, this is…
502 00:43:40.600 ⇒ 00:43:44.449 Michele Altomare: adjacent to Brainforge, but I showed somebody the L&E platform that you’ve made.
503 00:43:44.770 ⇒ 00:43:49.400 Michele Altomare: Sitting next to me in a room yesterday, and they were very impressed.
504 00:43:49.900 ⇒ 00:43:50.340 Brylle Girang: Oh, wow.
505 00:43:50.760 ⇒ 00:43:52.312 Michele Altomare: No, but they were…
506 00:43:53.980 ⇒ 00:43:58.840 Michele Altomare: Follow me, B. I was explaining to them, talking through them with some of the skills.
507 00:43:59.020 ⇒ 00:44:03.480 Michele Altomare: And then I had, as you’ve seen, the amount of things on this desktop.
508 00:44:03.560 ⇒ 00:44:22.240 Michele Altomare: Notion and cursor, and the platform open at the same time, and then they saw the Kirby thing, so they’re like, are you playing games? Like, what are you doing? I was like, no, this is, like, a visual representation of what this skill does, which is why I had written in the Notion, I was like, oh, we understand the skills in, like, an unsexy list.
509 00:44:22.510 ⇒ 00:44:27.879 Michele Altomare: But the person next to me was like, oh… it’s like, each skill is, like, a little…
510 00:44:29.200 ⇒ 00:44:41.310 Michele Altomare: Smash Bros. character. This is an imperfect analogy, right? But they were like, oh, so then they were asking, they were like, how do I access L&D? They thought it was, like, a YouTube channel or something. I was like, no, bro, it’s a different thing.
511 00:44:41.600 ⇒ 00:44:46.419 Michele Altomare: But… but you get what I mean. So it was interesting, because, like, the packaging…
512 00:44:46.760 ⇒ 00:44:53.650 Michele Altomare: I only mention this because I know you’ve shared an interest with UTOM of, like, commercializing this somehow.
513 00:44:53.650 ⇒ 00:44:54.170 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
514 00:44:54.170 ⇒ 00:44:58.880 Michele Altomare: Dude, people are very intrigued. And I think, like anything, I bias toward packaging.
515 00:44:59.050 ⇒ 00:45:01.560 Michele Altomare: But I’m sure there’s tons of things you can do.
516 00:45:01.920 ⇒ 00:45:02.480 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
517 00:45:03.130 ⇒ 00:45:05.810 Brylle Girang: Thank you, thank you. That’s reassuring to hear.
518 00:45:06.160 ⇒ 00:45:06.980 Michele Altomare: Yeah.
519 00:45:07.760 ⇒ 00:45:13.520 Michele Altomare: Because as a list, he didn’t get it. He was like, oh, these are, like, documents that I can reference.
520 00:45:13.640 ⇒ 00:45:18.909 Michele Altomare: I was like, kind of, but the idea is that you can, like, call, like, the character.
521 00:45:19.110 ⇒ 00:45:24.090 Michele Altomare: I really beat out the Kirby analogy, but I was like, you can call him when you need him.
522 00:45:24.790 ⇒ 00:45:30.910 Michele Altomare: and then they make a team, and then the team is, like, N8M, whatever it was, you know?
523 00:45:31.200 ⇒ 00:45:36.380 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, that makes sense. And you got a good grasp of it, so that’s good.
524 00:45:36.970 ⇒ 00:45:46.990 Michele Altomare: Yeah, so anyway, dude, just stuff to think about, but this was helpful today. I’ll make the linear ticket. I’m gonna swing at this cartoon thing and let you know how it goes.
525 00:45:47.520 ⇒ 00:45:51.189 Brylle Girang: Alright, thank you, thank you, man, just, just let me know if you need anything, okay?
526 00:45:51.190 ⇒ 00:45:54.790 Michele Altomare: Yeah, appreciate it. Likewise, if there’s anything I can do, please holler.
527 00:45:55.050 ⇒ 00:45:56.610 Brylle Girang: Sure, sure. Bye-bye.
528 00:45:57.040 ⇒ 00:45:58.670 Michele Altomare: Alright, thanks, Pete. Bye.