Meeting Title: Brainforge YC Pitch Prep Date: 2026-05-04 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Robert Tseng
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1 00:00:04.600 ⇒ 00:00:10.989 Uttam Kumaran: Well, dude, like, I can do it on my own stuff, but I have no idea how to do it in open code, because I don’t know how to do paid API stuff.
2 00:00:12.110 ⇒ 00:00:13.720 Uttam Kumaran: Well, where are you stuck?
3 00:00:14.120 ⇒ 00:00:20.610 Uttam Kumaran: Like… Right now, I’ve been doing all the transcription prep stuff. Hmm.
4 00:00:20.870 ⇒ 00:00:23.520 Uttam Kumaran: But I haven’t tried to generate a single thing.
5 00:00:23.840 ⇒ 00:00:33.419 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. That’s good, that’s good. That’s fine. It’s like, you need the model locally, or I have to… Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
6 00:00:33.540 ⇒ 00:00:34.919 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, well, that’s fine
7 00:00:35.020 ⇒ 00:00:42.060 Uttam Kumaran: But I think that… that might be, like, the most useful except for, like, see, because otherwise I’m like.
8 00:00:42.310 ⇒ 00:00:44.759 Uttam Kumaran: No, but still, you need the first choir anyways.
9 00:01:04.340 ⇒ 00:01:05.050 Robert Tseng: Hey.
10 00:01:06.240 ⇒ 00:01:06.900 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wow.
11 00:01:11.920 ⇒ 00:01:14.240 Robert Tseng: Might be a productive side quest, maybe.
12 00:01:14.240 ⇒ 00:01:15.830 Uttam Kumaran: I invited Mickey here.
13 00:01:15.830 ⇒ 00:01:17.339 Robert Tseng: Hey, what’s up?
14 00:01:17.340 ⇒ 00:01:19.229 Uttam Kumaran: What up, bro?
15 00:01:19.650 ⇒ 00:01:25.370 Uttam Kumaran: Well, he was at the gym down here, and I was like, yeah, just, hey, I’m gonna try to make some jokes.
16 00:01:25.370 ⇒ 00:01:26.490 Robert Tseng: In your home gym?
17 00:01:26.490 ⇒ 00:01:29.569 Uttam Kumaran: I’m replacing Finn. No, no, he went to this, like, the influencer.
18 00:01:29.570 ⇒ 00:01:33.310 Robert Tseng: Oh, he went to the influencer gym. Oh. Yeah, I mean, gotta get clients, right?
19 00:01:33.310 ⇒ 00:01:38.510 Uttam Kumaran: I would’ve got in here an hour ago, but I had to step out of a couple tripods and not slow me down.
20 00:01:43.140 ⇒ 00:01:49.239 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, then they… you wanna send me this big laptop? Can’t do any… any of our work stuff on it, though.
21 00:01:49.240 ⇒ 00:01:50.030 Robert Tseng: Oh!
22 00:01:50.030 ⇒ 00:01:51.340 Uttam Kumaran: Just as teams.
23 00:01:51.850 ⇒ 00:01:53.880 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just figured…
24 00:01:53.880 ⇒ 00:02:01.249 Robert Tseng: My laptop wasn’t bad. I got it used, and it, like, it’s way better than the crap I was on before. I think I got it for under two grand, so…
25 00:02:01.250 ⇒ 00:02:03.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. No, I have a MacBook coming.
26 00:02:05.490 ⇒ 00:02:08.169 Uttam Kumaran: For this stuff, so I can finally ditch my air.
27 00:02:09.539 ⇒ 00:02:11.409 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we got, we gotta upgrade. Yeah.
28 00:02:11.520 ⇒ 00:02:14.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
29 00:02:14.650 ⇒ 00:02:16.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, I’ll pick up.
30 00:02:17.030 ⇒ 00:02:25.039 Robert Tseng: Okay, so I was just… I was just filling in the other, like, form, the form copy, but basically we just need to do, like, a 2-minute intro video.
31 00:02:25.270 ⇒ 00:02:26.720 Robert Tseng: It’s really just a…
32 00:02:30.230 ⇒ 00:02:30.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
33 00:02:31.590 ⇒ 00:02:32.610 Robert Tseng: You can,
34 00:02:35.010 ⇒ 00:02:47.909 Robert Tseng: reuse this as, like… I don’t care about watching those… the examples, I think just get a feel for, like, what… what it is. It’s pretty… it’s very informal, it’s not, like, pitchy or whatever. I’m literally wearing my pajamas, so I think it’ll be fine.
35 00:02:50.980 ⇒ 00:02:55.549 Robert Tseng: And then we just kind of clip it, like a 2 minutes clip it, and then we just… then we just send it.
36 00:02:56.730 ⇒ 00:03:00.050 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, I got logged in with my, alright, hold on.
37 00:03:07.450 ⇒ 00:03:26.940 Robert Tseng: I literally didn’t know about this until, like, I guess I have… was, like, I looked away from my studies and was on LinkedIn, terrible, but I… then I, like, saw it, and I was like, oh, company brain? I feel like we’re kind of doing that. And then, like, deadline is today at 8pm PT.
38 00:03:27.900 ⇒ 00:03:33.339 Robert Tseng: It’s like, well, you know, if the end of this is, like, 500 grand.
39 00:03:33.550 ⇒ 00:03:36.159 Robert Tseng: for, like, 30 minutes of effort? Sure. I mean, dude.
40 00:03:36.160 ⇒ 00:03:38.270 Uttam Kumaran: Honestly, you could just make a post out of it.
41 00:03:38.270 ⇒ 00:03:40.789 Robert Tseng: Totally, yeah. That’d be good content, too.
42 00:03:45.570 ⇒ 00:03:47.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m just signing in.
43 00:03:48.120 ⇒ 00:03:48.830 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
44 00:03:52.070 ⇒ 00:03:54.299 Uttam Kumaran: What did Gabe say? He didn’t take the offer?
45 00:03:55.140 ⇒ 00:03:57.779 Robert Tseng: No, no, actually, well, so…
46 00:03:59.880 ⇒ 00:04:02.910 Robert Tseng: Yeah, he was, like, really toiling about it, like…
47 00:04:03.090 ⇒ 00:04:10.099 Uttam Kumaran: Come on, dude, I don’t like… dude, I don’t like that. Like, how is this not, like, literally the world’s easiest decision?
48 00:04:10.100 ⇒ 00:04:10.780 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
49 00:04:11.300 ⇒ 00:04:16.789 Uttam Kumaran: Oh my god. Tell them I’m gonna give that job to literally someone I meet in the next 48 hours.
50 00:04:17.220 ⇒ 00:04:17.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
51 00:04:19.740 ⇒ 00:04:23.930 Uttam Kumaran: I just can’t believe it, like… He was really good!
52 00:04:24.180 ⇒ 00:04:26.810 Robert Tseng: They are. Still use this stuff. It’s pretty good.
53 00:04:26.810 ⇒ 00:04:33.660 Uttam Kumaran: Does he not… does he not, like, see it? Like, what is he… what is… maybe… if he’s not in for the money, fine, but, like, dude…
54 00:04:35.740 ⇒ 00:04:41.360 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, what are you in it for? You’re gonna go to an MBA, and then what… what are they gonna say that I’m not gonna say?
55 00:04:42.270 ⇒ 00:04:50.559 Uttam Kumaran: I literally… dude, we actually now, my new delivery thing actually needs exactly him, like, a patient person that does depth.
56 00:04:50.830 ⇒ 00:04:53.509 Uttam Kumaran: And what we, what we’re doing, yeah.
57 00:04:54.170 ⇒ 00:05:00.520 Robert Tseng: Well, dude, you should give him a call. So basically, like, he’s deferring his program. That’s what he decided.
58 00:05:00.520 ⇒ 00:05:01.270 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
59 00:05:01.270 ⇒ 00:05:01.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
60 00:05:02.280 ⇒ 00:05:12.930 Robert Tseng: So… I mean, I think he’s just kind of… Kind of just… Waiting around now, so… I…
61 00:05:12.930 ⇒ 00:05:13.880 Uttam Kumaran: Tell you!
62 00:05:14.810 ⇒ 00:05:24.050 Robert Tseng: Well, he was, like, telling me how he didn’t want to go, but then his girlfriend wants him to go, whatever, so we, like, kind of talked.
63 00:05:24.050 ⇒ 00:05:26.670 Uttam Kumaran: He doesn’t want to go to the NBA, but then his girlfriend.
64 00:05:26.670 ⇒ 00:05:28.110 Robert Tseng: No, he doesn’t want to go, yeah.
65 00:05:28.600 ⇒ 00:05:30.210 Uttam Kumaran: What!
66 00:05:30.210 ⇒ 00:05:34.630 Robert Tseng: Yeah. But it’s like, it’s kind of just like, he’s so…
67 00:05:34.940 ⇒ 00:05:41.500 Robert Tseng: Like, he was just showing me, like, he built out this whole financial model, whatever, for, like, what the ROI would be on the program.
68 00:05:41.680 ⇒ 00:05:52.649 Robert Tseng: And it’s just like, okay, well, and he did… he was like, yeah, it doesn’t look like it’s gonna be worth it. Well, it’s like, yeah, well, you’re gonna have to eat, like, almost 300 grand out of pocket, and, like.
69 00:05:52.650 ⇒ 00:06:03.840 Uttam Kumaran: And missed, literally, like, the earliest of the part of the wave, where, in fact, he was even… he was here before. Like, the best time to have done this would have been when we did it in the last two years, like…
70 00:06:03.840 ⇒ 00:06:04.560 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
71 00:06:04.560 ⇒ 00:06:07.339 Uttam Kumaran: He has a shot, like, he isn’t in.
72 00:06:08.340 ⇒ 00:06:22.399 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and I’ll just probably better understand, like, what his current… what his current gig is, and what he does there. I mean, he’s basically, like, a consultant at this point, but he’s just doing, like, design strategy consulting, whatever, for tech companies.
73 00:06:22.540 ⇒ 00:06:30.120 Robert Tseng: So… Seems like a… Bah, kind of job. I don’t know.
74 00:06:30.470 ⇒ 00:06:36.149 Uttam Kumaran: I just, like… I don’t know, something… it’s just so… he just, like… Yeah, I don’t know.
75 00:06:36.150 ⇒ 00:06:39.990 Robert Tseng: It’s the risk aversion, that’s what it is. He’s just like…
76 00:06:40.590 ⇒ 00:06:45.140 Robert Tseng: Even saying, even getting him to say that he was gonna defer it.
77 00:06:45.210 ⇒ 00:06:49.849 Robert Tseng: as, like, the compromise. I was like, dude, just pay the… pay the two grand.
78 00:06:49.880 ⇒ 00:07:08.789 Robert Tseng: deposit, and if you’re not… if it’s, like… if you’re just, like, losing your mind over this decision, like, just… just defer it a year. And he’s like, yeah. I mean, so he talked to his parents and everything, and that was his decision. So, he’s not gonna go this year. If anything, he would go next fall. So yeah, between now and then, he just kinda is…
79 00:07:08.900 ⇒ 00:07:14.380 Robert Tseng: around. We’re… I’m gonna see him again when I go to Asia, because we’re both… we’re all going to the same wedding.
80 00:07:15.420 ⇒ 00:07:16.920 Robert Tseng: So, I’m gonna…
81 00:07:17.720 ⇒ 00:07:23.890 Robert Tseng: he didn’t… I mean, I didn’t feel like I could tell him to quit his job while I was there. I was just trying to get.
82 00:07:23.890 ⇒ 00:07:30.850 Uttam Kumaran: No, I mean, it’s rough, but also, like, I’ve never been more… Excited about what we’re doing.
83 00:07:31.680 ⇒ 00:07:38.790 Uttam Kumaran: I also would hate to send him a screenshot of us making a bunch of money in, like, the next 18 months, and be like, you totally fucked up.
84 00:07:39.280 ⇒ 00:07:44.740 Robert Tseng: I told him, dude, like, these two years, a lot’s gonna happen. You gotta, you gotta come now, so…
85 00:07:45.070 ⇒ 00:07:49.730 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I think he’s just not that impulsive, he’s not gonna just make a decision. I think he’s doing on it.
86 00:07:49.730 ⇒ 00:07:59.620 Uttam Kumaran: He already worked for us! What do you mean? It’s like, he worked for us, he left, we’re like, come back. Dude, I’ve never had… no one’s ever asked me to do stuff like that.
87 00:08:07.410 ⇒ 00:08:09.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m just filling out all my, like…
88 00:08:10.200 ⇒ 00:08:15.990 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks. I guess, like, yeah, maybe they look at my Twitter, they’ll see I’m, like, Half legit.
89 00:08:18.430 ⇒ 00:08:19.020 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
90 00:08:24.880 ⇒ 00:08:26.959 Uttam Kumaran: I just tweet about open code and stuff.
91 00:08:27.590 ⇒ 00:08:28.300 Robert Tseng: Nice.
92 00:08:29.000 ⇒ 00:08:37.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah, they have, like, a… they have, like, an optional, like, product demo thing, too. I don’t know if we wanted to show our… our open… open code thing, but…
93 00:08:38.270 ⇒ 00:08:40.090 Robert Tseng: Maybe, maybe unnecessary.
94 00:08:44.880 ⇒ 00:08:51.780 Robert Tseng: To me, it’s like, maybe they’ll be like, oh, shoot, we should, like, get these guys to talk to some people on our portcos, so… sure.
95 00:08:55.330 ⇒ 00:08:58.130 Robert Tseng: How far along are you? .
96 00:09:34.850 ⇒ 00:09:40.600 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna submit my… my Reddit… the thing I submitted to Reddit, oh, it’s been 10 years.
97 00:09:41.160 ⇒ 00:09:46.970 Uttam Kumaran: I submitted this productivity, app I built to Reddit got, like, 10,000 upvotes.
98 00:09:47.690 ⇒ 00:09:54.729 Robert Tseng: Dude, that’s cool. I… oh, I didn’t even fill out those little, like, kind of personal things, but I should.
99 00:09:55.110 ⇒ 00:09:59.640 Robert Tseng: Where does your revenue come from? Please break down where it’s coming from your source.
100 00:09:59.790 ⇒ 00:10:07.200 Robert Tseng: It’s like… Well, consulting… Okay.
101 00:10:07.740 ⇒ 00:10:11.330 Robert Tseng: Oh, who’s our building and compliance… Absolutely.
102 00:10:13.730 ⇒ 00:10:16.770 Robert Tseng: 58% CPG…
103 00:10:21.300 ⇒ 00:10:23.200 Robert Tseng: So… Excellent.
104 00:10:49.310 ⇒ 00:10:54.349 Uttam Kumaran: You probably have some good one of these. Hack some computer systems… non-computer system to your advantage.
105 00:10:54.350 ⇒ 00:10:56.060 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
106 00:10:59.180 ⇒ 00:11:01.749 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t even know if I have a good idea over there.
107 00:11:02.520 ⇒ 00:11:07.129 Uttam Kumaran: Like, non-computer is… I don’t know, like, what is… what could that even be?
108 00:11:07.130 ⇒ 00:11:09.829 Robert Tseng: Like, how did you, like, game the system, you know?
109 00:11:10.580 ⇒ 00:11:17.180 Uttam Kumaran: Every… everything I’ve gained the system involves computers. It’s like how I got into the computers.
110 00:12:41.410 ⇒ 00:12:43.780 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think I can… I don’t think I can edit.
111 00:12:46.100 ⇒ 00:12:48.789 Robert Tseng: Oh, of the… of, like, the actual thing?
112 00:12:49.040 ⇒ 00:12:50.200 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine.
113 00:12:52.140 ⇒ 00:12:58.690 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I’m just, like, writing things, but we can just record our video if you’re ready, and I can fill out the rest and send it.
114 00:12:58.880 ⇒ 00:13:02.730 Robert Tseng: I’m just, like, answering some other questions about, like, idea, whatever.
115 00:13:06.660 ⇒ 00:13:10.540 Uttam Kumaran: You can submit… you can submit our YouTube video we just put on YouTube from our pitch.
116 00:13:10.750 ⇒ 00:13:11.720 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
117 00:13:12.800 ⇒ 00:13:20.699 Robert Tseng: Well, I mean, I don’t think that’s what they want. They want to… I think they want to hear, like, what… like, just something more informal and less curated.
118 00:13:21.020 ⇒ 00:13:21.440 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
119 00:13:21.440 ⇒ 00:13:25.280 Robert Tseng: It’s more of like a… like a… like a per… like a vibe check, you know?
120 00:13:25.840 ⇒ 00:13:26.690 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
121 00:13:26.690 ⇒ 00:13:27.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
122 00:13:32.470 ⇒ 00:13:35.079 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m ready. Hold on, let me get this chicken out of the oven.
123 00:13:35.590 ⇒ 00:13:36.170 Robert Tseng: Okay.
124 00:13:44.700 ⇒ 00:13:46.250 Uttam Kumaran: Joe Stars now.
125 00:13:49.830 ⇒ 00:13:53.910 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, did we tell him tell you about the, the Roomba that he just got?
126 00:13:53.910 ⇒ 00:13:54.630 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
127 00:13:57.220 ⇒ 00:14:00.100 Robert Tseng: I guess I interrupted you guys from setting it up.
128 00:14:00.630 ⇒ 00:14:01.590 Uttam Kumaran: What’s that?
129 00:14:01.590 ⇒ 00:14:03.680 Robert Tseng: I interrupted you guys from setting it up.
130 00:14:03.680 ⇒ 00:14:09.869 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no, no, no. It’s just, it’s funny. It’s like, little by little, you can feel the house being, like.
131 00:14:10.770 ⇒ 00:14:12.540 Uttam Kumaran: Taken over by the sheet.
132 00:14:12.780 ⇒ 00:14:13.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
133 00:14:15.440 ⇒ 00:14:17.719 Robert Tseng: That’d be cool if that Roomba could climb the stairs.
134 00:14:18.260 ⇒ 00:14:24.090 Uttam Kumaran: I saw it stuck in a rug about 5 minutes ago, so it’s always…
135 00:14:24.220 ⇒ 00:14:25.900 Robert Tseng: Not stuck in a rug. It’s funny.
136 00:14:39.520 ⇒ 00:14:42.149 Uttam Kumaran: Any highlights since getting back from Texas?
137 00:14:43.040 ⇒ 00:14:54.719 Robert Tseng: Last week, I was… I was out. I was in Boston for most of the week. That was also kind of crazy. So, I mean, a lot of events the past couple weeks. It’s good, it’s been helping us
138 00:14:55.080 ⇒ 00:15:02.120 Robert Tseng: kind of retool our narrative, and I think that’s why we’re also kind of doing this. It’d be a good time to test it.
139 00:15:03.290 ⇒ 00:15:04.170 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
140 00:16:31.710 ⇒ 00:16:33.860 Robert Tseng: We’re not really an analytics company.
141 00:16:34.150 ⇒ 00:16:34.780 Robert Tseng: Are we?
142 00:16:36.790 ⇒ 00:16:37.280 Uttam Kumaran: What?
143 00:16:37.280 ⇒ 00:16:39.780 Robert Tseng: Paul, would you call us an analytics company?
144 00:16:40.860 ⇒ 00:16:42.039 Uttam Kumaran: What are the options?
145 00:16:42.900 ⇒ 00:16:48.810 Robert Tseng: like, media, personal finance, all these, like, domains. It’s not really, like, there’s no consulting or whatever.
146 00:16:49.930 ⇒ 00:16:52.839 Robert Tseng: I think analytics might be the closest, but…
147 00:16:57.480 ⇒ 00:17:00.940 Robert Tseng: It’s not sales enablement, and
148 00:17:02.410 ⇒ 00:17:06.400 Robert Tseng: It’s not other, not really other either, continuing education.
149 00:17:06.579 ⇒ 00:17:07.359 Robert Tseng: No.
150 00:17:07.640 ⇒ 00:17:08.959 Uttam Kumaran: Probably a good other.
151 00:17:09.130 ⇒ 00:17:09.810 Robert Tseng: Father.
152 00:17:09.940 ⇒ 00:17:10.760 Robert Tseng: Alright.
153 00:17:10.990 ⇒ 00:17:11.960 Robert Tseng: Let’s go.
154 00:17:23.700 ⇒ 00:17:28.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if you want to send me the coding agent session that you dig up, that’d be good.
155 00:17:28.880 ⇒ 00:17:32.289 Robert Tseng: Yeah, maybe we just do the video last. I think I have two more questions.
156 00:17:33.350 ⇒ 00:17:35.350 Robert Tseng: How far along are you?
157 00:17:35.810 ⇒ 00:17:36.680 Robert Tseng: Weir.
158 00:17:55.020 ⇒ 00:17:58.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I asked AI to help me find it, see what it finds.
159 00:17:58.270 ⇒ 00:17:58.930 Robert Tseng: Right?
160 00:19:02.480 ⇒ 00:19:05.930 Robert Tseng: Where’s that YouTube video that you mentioned? I might just drop it in there as well.
161 00:19:08.740 ⇒ 00:19:09.729 Uttam Kumaran: Oh my god.
162 00:19:13.490 ⇒ 00:19:14.670 Robert Tseng: Is it in the Slack?
163 00:19:15.510 ⇒ 00:19:16.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
164 00:19:17.980 ⇒ 00:19:20.160 Robert Tseng: Unlisted YouTube.
165 00:19:22.740 ⇒ 00:19:23.570 Robert Tseng: Oh.
166 00:19:24.640 ⇒ 00:19:25.530 Robert Tseng: Sweet.
167 00:22:17.400 ⇒ 00:22:19.479 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I found some, let’s see.
168 00:23:23.080 ⇒ 00:23:28.210 Robert Tseng: Okay. Did you… yeah, I mean, I filled out all the questions. I’m ready, I’m ready to shoot.
169 00:23:32.740 ⇒ 00:23:33.519 Robert Tseng: You wanna, you wanna.
170 00:23:33.520 ⇒ 00:23:36.569 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, still searching for stuff, but…
171 00:23:36.570 ⇒ 00:23:37.690 Robert Tseng: Okay, sure.
172 00:23:42.720 ⇒ 00:23:43.540 Robert Tseng: Alright.
173 00:23:44.970 ⇒ 00:23:48.929 Robert Tseng: I think the format, I’m just gonna open that link, is really just like a…
174 00:23:51.860 ⇒ 00:23:57.219 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s not a demo, we’re just introducing what we’re doing, why, and
175 00:24:01.890 ⇒ 00:24:06.279 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s meant to just be, like, an intro call, I guess.
176 00:24:07.210 ⇒ 00:24:08.010 Robert Tseng: So…
177 00:24:14.060 ⇒ 00:24:17.560 Robert Tseng: Maybe we come up with a few talking points, and then we just kind of split it.
178 00:24:24.460 ⇒ 00:24:27.410 Robert Tseng: Probably repurpose some of that YouTube video. Let’s see…
179 00:24:28.000 ⇒ 00:24:30.930 Uttam Kumaran: These are 50 seconds.
180 00:24:30.930 ⇒ 00:24:31.709 Robert Tseng: Yeah, these are short.
181 00:24:31.710 ⇒ 00:24:38.979 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s talk better in software, because we can, first, Should be 1 minute long.
182 00:24:39.350 ⇒ 00:24:42.569 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah. Microservices, kind of talk.
183 00:24:42.570 ⇒ 00:24:49.289 Uttam Kumaran: So, in the video, introduce yourself, explain what you’re doing and why, tell us anything you want about the founders. This is not a place to submit a demo.
184 00:24:49.600 ⇒ 00:24:53.960 Uttam Kumaran: If you have more than one founder, do not recite a script, use bullet points.
185 00:24:56.600 ⇒ 00:25:05.560 Uttam Kumaran: So… Okay, yeah, so what is the… so we’re talking about, the brain, basically.
186 00:25:05.560 ⇒ 00:25:06.200 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
187 00:25:06.330 ⇒ 00:25:07.620 Robert Tseng: Basically, the brain.
188 00:25:07.620 ⇒ 00:25:13.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I think roughly what you should… what we should say is you should just say hi, say, I’m Robert, I’m…
189 00:25:14.350 ⇒ 00:25:18.980 Uttam Kumaran: Like… worked at analytics my whole career, I’ll say the same thing, I worked a state engineer.
190 00:25:19.850 ⇒ 00:25:24.429 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, we sought out to build a data consultancy
191 00:25:24.540 ⇒ 00:25:37.399 Uttam Kumaran: And on that journey, we basically found ourselves building, like, a brain for ourselves, and we found that most of that is actually a data engineering and an integration challenge, not so much an LLM challenge.
192 00:25:37.630 ⇒ 00:25:42.390 Uttam Kumaran: And we’re now here figuring out how to do that for…
193 00:25:43.360 ⇒ 00:25:49.830 Uttam Kumaran: customers, you know, primarily as a services angle, so…
194 00:25:52.120 ⇒ 00:25:54.759 Uttam Kumaran: What else? I mean, I don’t know, what else do you have to say in that?
195 00:25:55.750 ⇒ 00:25:59.159 Robert Tseng: No, it’s good. I mean, I think I might like, you know, that new context.
196 00:25:59.160 ⇒ 00:25:59.640 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t understand.
197 00:25:59.640 ⇒ 00:26:01.480 Robert Tseng: slide deck that I made, I might just…
198 00:26:01.480 ⇒ 00:26:10.219 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think you should just say, like, look, we’ve been pitching context engineering for a year.
199 00:26:10.220 ⇒ 00:26:10.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
200 00:26:10.660 ⇒ 00:26:20.219 Uttam Kumaran: We’ve been doing it in our company for longer than that, and seems like something’s changed recently, and we’re moving our entire business towards that. So, yeah, that makes sense.
201 00:26:20.360 ⇒ 00:26:20.970 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
202 00:26:25.570 ⇒ 00:26:31.710 Robert Tseng: Okay, then we’ll kind of do it back and forth. I’ll do my… I’ll do a brief intro, you’ll do… you’ll do your intro.
203 00:26:32.080 ⇒ 00:26:36.019 Robert Tseng: think about the kind of context visionary piece, and you can kind of close it out.
204 00:26:36.020 ⇒ 00:26:36.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
205 00:26:38.370 ⇒ 00:26:39.080 Robert Tseng: Cool.
206 00:26:40.980 ⇒ 00:26:43.010 Uttam Kumaran: Go for it. Let’s do it.
207 00:26:45.880 ⇒ 00:26:47.290 Robert Tseng: Hey there, I’m Robert.
208 00:26:47.530 ⇒ 00:26:48.690 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, I’m Utom.
209 00:26:48.980 ⇒ 00:26:54.029 Robert Tseng: And we’re the founders of Brainforge. We’ve…
210 00:26:54.480 ⇒ 00:27:00.320 Robert Tseng: We both have led data teams, okay, maybe I’ll say, like…
211 00:27:00.320 ⇒ 00:27:04.149 Uttam Kumaran: Just say you’ve led analytics… just say you’ve been an analytics leader, you’ve led…
212 00:27:04.150 ⇒ 00:27:04.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
213 00:27:04.860 ⇒ 00:27:06.410 Uttam Kumaran: You’ve led large-scale, like.
214 00:27:06.410 ⇒ 00:27:07.300 Robert Tseng: But maybe I’ll say that as part.
215 00:27:07.300 ⇒ 00:27:08.330 Uttam Kumaran: Decision Intelligent?
216 00:27:08.330 ⇒ 00:27:11.389 Robert Tseng: I led analytics teams at CPG Brands, and.
217 00:27:11.390 ⇒ 00:27:17.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then I can talk about my background, and then I’ll… what I’ll do is I’ll then take the next part, which is…
218 00:27:17.370 ⇒ 00:27:17.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
219 00:27:18.750 ⇒ 00:27:19.700 Uttam Kumaran: we…
220 00:27:19.980 ⇒ 00:27:27.439 Uttam Kumaran: we sought out to build a classic data consultancy. Yeah, and then I’ll… then I’ll basically hand it back to you.
221 00:27:27.440 ⇒ 00:27:30.460 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. Alright, run it from the top again.
222 00:27:32.170 ⇒ 00:27:37.669 Robert Tseng: Hey there, I’m Robert, and I led analytics teams at CPG and SaaS companies.
223 00:27:38.160 ⇒ 00:27:47.579 Uttam Kumaran: I’m Mutam, I’m a data engineer by trade, also led data teams, led product, for a data startup building data products.
224 00:27:47.830 ⇒ 00:27:56.750 Uttam Kumaran: And really, we came together to build what’s pretty much a classic data consultancy, and on that journey, found ourselves
225 00:27:56.750 ⇒ 00:28:13.940 Uttam Kumaran: Learning how to be a context engineering firm for ourselves first, really building our own brain, and trying to pitch context engineering in the market for the last two years, and seems like something has really clicked recently, and, we’re sort of taking one further step, you know, in that direction.
226 00:28:14.500 ⇒ 00:28:20.139 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we’ve had a great track record of being a systems integrator for all the modern BI
227 00:28:20.140 ⇒ 00:28:45.009 Robert Tseng: tools for the… over 30 clients over the past 2 years, but we believe that the future data platform is not a warehouse, it’s not a traditional BI stack, it’s not even a single Agentic harness. It’s about turning contacts into a platform. And so, we’re really bullish on, kind of, the traditional data stack being broken down and being what’s more of a composable canvas, where organizations expect to add
228 00:28:45.010 ⇒ 00:29:06.170 Robert Tseng: access an intelligence layer from every tool that they’re using. And so we’ve already been implementing this, mostly for ourselves and our organization, as we have different entry points for the wide range of our 25 staff to go in and access our company intelligence, and we’re also deploying this for our clients.
229 00:29:06.710 ⇒ 00:29:11.700 Robert Tseng: So, yeah, we’re super excited to bring this idea to YC and to…
230 00:29:11.980 ⇒ 00:29:14.530 Robert Tseng: To get a chance to pitch it to you guys directly.
231 00:29:15.220 ⇒ 00:29:16.010 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.
232 00:29:16.140 ⇒ 00:29:16.750 Robert Tseng: Right?
233 00:29:17.750 ⇒ 00:29:19.890 Robert Tseng: Sure, I think that works.
234 00:29:21.170 ⇒ 00:29:27.410 Uttam Kumaran: I think if you attach the vid… yeah, if you attach that YouTube video… yeah, it’s good. I mean, it seems like they basically are just gonna be, like.
235 00:29:28.040 ⇒ 00:29:30.339 Uttam Kumaran: These guys are okay, these guys are okay, like…
236 00:29:30.710 ⇒ 00:29:37.689 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Now, how this goes is they… afterwards, they… I’ve gone through this filter before. They basically get you on a, like, a…
237 00:29:37.970 ⇒ 00:29:48.789 Robert Tseng: like, a 5-minute call or whatever, and then they just, like, grill you with a couple questions, and then… I don’t know, I guess I didn’t make it past that, so…
238 00:29:48.790 ⇒ 00:29:51.060 Uttam Kumaran: I have some friends that made it through.
239 00:29:51.360 ⇒ 00:29:57.800 Uttam Kumaran: That would be… it’d be so funny if I just… if we just casually made it, because their whole personality is this fucking thing.
240 00:29:57.800 ⇒ 00:29:58.200 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
241 00:30:00.360 ⇒ 00:30:04.400 Uttam Kumaran: All they talk… it’s like, all they talk about is getting to this day.
242 00:30:04.620 ⇒ 00:30:05.240 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
243 00:30:10.420 ⇒ 00:30:12.959 Robert Tseng: Okay, we have to, like, end this to get the clip, right?
244 00:30:13.580 ⇒ 00:30:14.590 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
245 00:30:14.590 ⇒ 00:30:15.290 Robert Tseng: Okay.
246 00:30:15.710 ⇒ 00:30:19.700 Robert Tseng: Do you want to clip it while I kind of tie out the rest?
247 00:30:19.700 ⇒ 00:30:23.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay, I will, I will. I’ll stop this, and then, yeah, I’ll clip it and send it to you.
248 00:30:23.900 ⇒ 00:30:25.250 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. Alright.
249 00:30:25.270 ⇒ 00:30:27.339 Uttam Kumaran: Get back to work!
250 00:30:27.890 ⇒ 00:30:31.010 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, bye.