Meeting Title: placeholder | Amber Monthly Progress checks Date: 2026-05-01 Meeting participants: Jasmin Multani, Amber Lin
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1 00:00:56.080 ⇒ 00:00:57.340 Amber Lin: Hello!
2 00:00:57.340 ⇒ 00:00:59.080 Jasmin Multani: Hey Amber, how’s it going?
3 00:00:59.280 ⇒ 00:01:01.060 Amber Lin: Really good, how’s your afternoon?
4 00:01:01.610 ⇒ 00:01:03.720 Jasmin Multani: It’s going! It’s going!
5 00:01:03.720 ⇒ 00:01:04.900 Amber Lin: That’s further.
6 00:01:05.140 ⇒ 00:01:09.020 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah. Are you doing anything fun on the weekend?
7 00:01:10.130 ⇒ 00:01:13.509 Amber Lin: Oh… I think… well…
8 00:01:16.690 ⇒ 00:01:17.729 Amber Lin: In Clover City.
9 00:01:18.110 ⇒ 00:01:19.819 Amber Lin: So, they’re opening up a new
10 00:01:21.700 ⇒ 00:01:25.280 Amber Lin: We… oh, sorry. There’s an IKEA block party in Culver City.
11 00:01:25.280 ⇒ 00:01:26.080 Jasmin Multani: Oh, yeah, I’m sick!
12 00:01:26.220 ⇒ 00:01:33.880 Amber Lin: We might go there just to check it out, it seems pretty fun. And then Hannah’s having her baby shower on Saturday, too.
13 00:01:34.990 ⇒ 00:01:36.110 Jasmin Multani: So nice!
14 00:01:36.110 ⇒ 00:01:36.810 Amber Lin: Yeah.
15 00:01:38.490 ⇒ 00:01:39.570 Amber Lin: How about you?
16 00:01:40.060 ⇒ 00:01:44.410 Jasmin Multani: Mmm… I’m taking my yoga final.
17 00:01:44.540 ⇒ 00:01:45.580 Jasmin Multani: To be certified.
18 00:01:45.580 ⇒ 00:01:51.639 Amber Lin: That’s so fun! How many hours do you need for, the yoga shirt?
19 00:01:52.390 ⇒ 00:01:53.690 Jasmin Multani: 200, but, like.
20 00:01:53.690 ⇒ 00:01:56.420 Amber Lin: Wow. Like, classes or teaching?
21 00:01:56.890 ⇒ 00:02:00.360 Jasmin Multani: In classes, and then you’re learning?
22 00:02:00.900 ⇒ 00:02:03.369 Jasmin Multani: And then you’re teaching for, like, maybe 10 hours.
23 00:02:04.280 ⇒ 00:02:04.980 Amber Lin: Okay.
24 00:02:04.980 ⇒ 00:02:05.990 Jasmin Multani: -Oh.
25 00:02:06.130 ⇒ 00:02:11.230 Jasmin Multani: The teaching number stops, like, I don’t think I’ll ever stop learning how to teach.
26 00:02:11.530 ⇒ 00:02:12.130 Amber Lin: Hmm.
27 00:02:12.270 ⇒ 00:02:16.500 Jasmin Multani: Because it just seems so intense, and like, there’s so many different bodies that are out there.
28 00:02:16.500 ⇒ 00:02:17.340 Amber Lin: Yeah.
29 00:02:17.980 ⇒ 00:02:21.019 Jasmin Multani: have an experience, so I’m trying to get in a mode that, like.
30 00:02:22.760 ⇒ 00:02:26.840 Jasmin Multani: I can, like, assist and, like, change up my sequence on the spot.
31 00:02:26.840 ⇒ 00:02:29.119 Amber Lin: Where do you teach?
32 00:02:29.540 ⇒ 00:02:33.969 Jasmin Multani: Oh… I don’t teach anywhere, yeah, but…
33 00:02:34.080 ⇒ 00:02:36.419 Jasmin Multani: We might do a community class.
34 00:02:36.420 ⇒ 00:02:43.210 Amber Lin: That would be fun. I’ll go. If you teach, I will love to go. I’ve only done a few yoga classes, but…
35 00:02:43.210 ⇒ 00:02:43.819 Jasmin Multani: Oh, no worries.
36 00:02:43.820 ⇒ 00:02:44.399 Amber Lin: I like it.
37 00:02:44.670 ⇒ 00:02:51.340 Jasmin Multani: very, very beginner-friendly, and very themed. Let’s see, but I, I definitely…
38 00:02:51.860 ⇒ 00:02:57.359 Jasmin Multani: I want to take, like, a break from the studio, because things are just getting so passive-aggressive.
39 00:02:57.640 ⇒ 00:02:58.240 Amber Lin: That’s…
40 00:02:58.680 ⇒ 00:02:59.380 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
41 00:02:59.380 ⇒ 00:03:05.239 Amber Lin: How does… how does it get passive-aggressive at a yoga studio? I thought that defeats the whole point.
42 00:03:05.240 ⇒ 00:03:11.189 Jasmin Multani: And I know, but, like, people still have their boundaries, and I’m like, yeah, this makes sense, but, like…
43 00:03:11.520 ⇒ 00:03:18.060 Jasmin Multani: I don’t want to be emotionally jumped on the… Yeah. I think, like, yesterday…
44 00:03:18.260 ⇒ 00:03:24.059 Jasmin Multani: Our teacher… basically, everyone is turning in their homework, like, the night before.
45 00:03:24.530 ⇒ 00:03:33.619 Jasmin Multani: vinyl, but the… attitude was always like, oh, that’s fine, that’s okay. But then,
46 00:03:33.930 ⇒ 00:03:42.009 Jasmin Multani: we all sent… we all sent in our, like, fat stacks on Wednesday to be graded by Saturday, and…
47 00:03:42.960 ⇒ 00:03:49.639 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, I can… I’m just hearing passive regression from the studio owners, and I’m like, well, you guys…
48 00:03:50.340 ⇒ 00:03:59.779 Jasmin Multani: you guys created these, like, you guys set the tone, and that’s not to, like, blame them, like, I should’ve… I should have, like, done the homework more consistently, but…
49 00:04:01.580 ⇒ 00:04:04.580 Amber Lin: It’s also not your full-time job. Like, most people.
50 00:04:04.580 ⇒ 00:04:05.070 Jasmin Multani: I’ll take.
51 00:04:05.070 ⇒ 00:04:07.300 Amber Lin: Yoga certs on the side, so…
52 00:04:07.300 ⇒ 00:04:08.290 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
53 00:04:08.620 ⇒ 00:04:10.539 Jasmin Multani: And I… the thing is, like.
54 00:04:11.070 ⇒ 00:04:14.069 Jasmin Multani: what’s it called? I was just…
55 00:04:14.450 ⇒ 00:04:17.860 Jasmin Multani: feel like I was getting the emotional dumping by myself.
56 00:04:18.200 ⇒ 00:04:18.579 Amber Lin: Hmm.
57 00:04:18.589 ⇒ 00:04:19.669 Jasmin Multani: room, whereas, like…
58 00:04:19.670 ⇒ 00:04:20.279 Amber Lin: Fair.
59 00:04:20.410 ⇒ 00:04:24.320 Jasmin Multani: the class is, like, a class of 12, and I’m like, alright, I’m just gonna…
60 00:04:24.420 ⇒ 00:04:29.389 Jasmin Multani: Nod and listen politely, but this is not all on me.
61 00:04:29.390 ⇒ 00:04:30.459 Amber Lin: Yeah.
62 00:04:30.610 ⇒ 00:04:31.100 Jasmin Multani: So…
63 00:04:31.100 ⇒ 00:04:31.750 Amber Lin: mapping.
64 00:04:31.750 ⇒ 00:04:32.880 Jasmin Multani: Gonna take a break.
65 00:04:33.990 ⇒ 00:04:41.309 Jasmin Multani: But enough about me! I saw your career month-over-month tracker. How do you feel about it?
66 00:04:41.820 ⇒ 00:04:51.240 Amber Lin: I like it. I actually was doing something similar, just not monthly, for myself. I think I have… a…
67 00:04:52.010 ⇒ 00:05:09.590 Amber Lin: I think because of what I am, I know what I need or want to work on, which is not always the greatest for my mental health, but I’m very clear of… I know these things I could work on. It’s just doing them takes…
68 00:05:10.070 ⇒ 00:05:18.909 Amber Lin: allocation of energy, and there’s so many things, because I kind of see all the areas I want to work on,
69 00:05:19.530 ⇒ 00:05:32.630 Amber Lin: So that’s kind of the overview. I also did try to search the JDs. I just find it… and then I find it… found it very, very hard to pinpoint something that aligns with what I’m doing right now.
70 00:05:32.830 ⇒ 00:05:35.410 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, I mean, it doesn’t have to.
71 00:05:35.410 ⇒ 00:05:36.070 Amber Lin: Exactly.
72 00:05:36.070 ⇒ 00:05:49.190 Jasmin Multani: I would say you don’t have to align it up with what you have right now, because the whole point is that’s your direction that you want to grow towards. So, you tell me what you want to grow into, and I find those projects so that you can
73 00:05:49.730 ⇒ 00:05:53.509 Jasmin Multani: Express those skills, and build those new skills, you know?
74 00:05:53.510 ⇒ 00:05:55.210 Amber Lin: I see. Like…
75 00:05:55.610 ⇒ 00:06:03.540 Amber Lin: I guess that’s something we can work on together, because I also don’t really know, oh, I want to be this type of…
76 00:06:03.540 ⇒ 00:06:04.370 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, contributes.
77 00:06:04.370 ⇒ 00:06:11.250 Amber Lin: in the future, I just, like, all I know is what I have done right now in the moment.
78 00:06:11.250 ⇒ 00:06:11.640 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
79 00:06:11.640 ⇒ 00:06:17.209 Amber Lin: And these more senior roles, like, oh, you’re a more senior analyst overseeing these, like…
80 00:06:17.590 ⇒ 00:06:29.080 Amber Lin: cool, I do see it developing that way, but what if… what if I’m more heavy on the AI side, or… like, I guess there’s just so many things I’m touching right now.
81 00:06:29.080 ⇒ 00:06:29.470 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
82 00:06:29.470 ⇒ 00:06:34.350 Amber Lin: it’s very hard to see in the future, like, what I will… what I will be.
83 00:06:34.520 ⇒ 00:06:48.179 Jasmin Multani: and that’s… that’s fair, too. It’s like, you are… I feel like I’m early on in my career, too, and I’m still trying to adapt to what the economy is… is throwing at us. So, I’d say…
84 00:06:49.290 ⇒ 00:06:55.169 Jasmin Multani: Whenever you’re at a job, just know, like, what are the one or two skills that you know you’re good at.
85 00:06:55.500 ⇒ 00:06:57.260 Jasmin Multani: That, you know, like.
86 00:06:57.780 ⇒ 00:07:14.889 Jasmin Multani: that you’ll keep building no matter what, and then keep one or two stretch skills that you want to develop. So, I know you said something about, like, you want to tackle multiple things all at once, but it’s bad for your mental health. Like, can you touch more up on that?
87 00:07:14.890 ⇒ 00:07:28.270 Amber Lin: Oh, this is more of an aspect of my personality. Like, there’s always something to improve on, and it has benefited me, but when your strengths overreach, it…
88 00:07:28.270 ⇒ 00:07:35.850 Amber Lin: burdens you, so it’s more that I know that I like to work on things, but sometimes they become too…
89 00:07:35.850 ⇒ 00:07:42.139 Amber Lin: Self-critical, and only look at things I need to do better on, and not things I’m already doing well.
90 00:07:42.170 ⇒ 00:07:45.110 Amber Lin: But I think that’s… that’s part of…
91 00:07:45.220 ⇒ 00:07:51.650 Amber Lin: How it connects now is, on, like, pitching myself, or having a self-brand, like, that’s…
92 00:07:51.650 ⇒ 00:07:52.530 Jasmin Multani: Something that comes.
93 00:07:52.530 ⇒ 00:07:57.159 Amber Lin: a little bit harder for me, because it’s hard to say, oh, I know I can do really well on these things.
94 00:07:57.160 ⇒ 00:08:04.090 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah. No, it’s… it definitely comes with age, and I was definitely in your shoes.
95 00:08:04.540 ⇒ 00:08:08.589 Jasmin Multani: not too long ago, where I kept focusing on my…
96 00:08:08.780 ⇒ 00:08:18.060 Jasmin Multani: what I need to improve, and how do I… how do I get better, and like, why am I so bad at this? But I think there was a shift in me in my mid-20s where…
97 00:08:18.480 ⇒ 00:08:23.399 Jasmin Multani: I realized, oh, I’ve been in survival mode for a while.
98 00:08:23.700 ⇒ 00:08:30.039 Jasmin Multani: But the thing is, like, the things that get you out of survival and into, like, a decent spot…
99 00:08:30.510 ⇒ 00:08:34.390 Jasmin Multani: Skills are not going to take you from decent spot to thriving.
100 00:08:35.090 ⇒ 00:08:37.720 Jasmin Multani: Like, a different mindset needs to be tapped into.
101 00:08:38.390 ⇒ 00:08:43.049 Jasmin Multani: So, I’d wanna… I think you should explore, like, you know.
102 00:08:43.539 ⇒ 00:08:59.700 Jasmin Multani: what does it feel like, and what does it look like when you let go? And this is something, like, Utham and Robert talked to me as well, it’s like, you gotta let some things go. And I’m like, yeah, yeah, but, like, I don’t wanna dull my knives, you know? There’s always that fear.
103 00:08:59.990 ⇒ 00:09:06.790 Jasmin Multani: But just know that, like, if it’s already built inside of you, like, muscles…
104 00:09:07.230 ⇒ 00:09:10.499 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, if you use… if you… if you don’t use it.
105 00:09:10.660 ⇒ 00:09:24.789 Jasmin Multani: You’ll lose it, but at the same time, like, as long as you’re kind of expressing it, or, like, activating it once in a while, you’d be surprised at how quickly you’ll get back into, like, your full strength, if that makes sense.
106 00:09:24.960 ⇒ 00:09:26.430 Amber Lin: Yeah, makes sense.
107 00:09:26.570 ⇒ 00:09:36.020 Amber Lin: I, like, as I said, I don’t really know where to focus on, on all of these. Yeah.
108 00:09:36.020 ⇒ 00:09:38.749 Jasmin Multani: screen. We can go row by row.
109 00:09:41.470 ⇒ 00:09:44.530 Amber Lin: Do you want to take a quick, quick read?
110 00:09:44.860 ⇒ 00:09:49.819 Jasmin Multani: I read a little bit beforehand, but we can go… let’s go through, like.
111 00:09:50.290 ⇒ 00:09:57.500 Jasmin Multani: all of these, so I just put together skills that I think are, you know, important for any level.
112 00:09:58.000 ⇒ 00:10:03.460 Jasmin Multani: But I wanted to first start off in your, JD section. I noticed that you had…
113 00:10:03.690 ⇒ 00:10:07.710 Jasmin Multani: place some ideas there, and I want to see, like, which…
114 00:10:08.120 ⇒ 00:10:11.640 Jasmin Multani: Like, what job postings interested you the most?
115 00:10:13.220 ⇒ 00:10:22.889 Amber Lin: I will be honest, in my search, nothing came up as too exciting. I guess working is just not the most exciting thing in life.
116 00:10:23.390 ⇒ 00:10:37.799 Amber Lin: It always comes a second, but, like, within work, I only know, like, what interests me right now, but as I said, what I do right now, I don’t see it translated in the typical JDs.
117 00:10:38.200 ⇒ 00:10:39.530 Jasmin Multani: Interesting.
118 00:10:39.530 ⇒ 00:10:54.180 Amber Lin: Because I think what we’re… our company’s doing something, or at least the work we’re doing, is more on the news side, and especially in terms of JDs for the bigger companies, these are things that hasn’t happened yet, and…
119 00:10:54.400 ⇒ 00:11:01.270 Amber Lin: I… I don’t. Like, I think they’ll still exist in the future, but it will be done in such a different way.
120 00:11:01.270 ⇒ 00:11:01.750 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
121 00:11:01.750 ⇒ 00:11:09.760 Amber Lin: And I think what I’d rather do is, like, if I weren’t to work here, I would work in a similar fashion of.
122 00:11:10.290 ⇒ 00:11:14.619 Amber Lin: Having client projects, or at least working in some sort of
123 00:11:15.050 ⇒ 00:11:31.539 Amber Lin: enablement or some sort of AI capacity. Yeah. I think I would be working in that space, but the JDs, I find, are a lot more AI engineer-focused, which makes me doubt, hey, should I be learning more serious AI engineering?
124 00:11:31.540 ⇒ 00:11:39.270 Amber Lin: like, the… I can’t pinpoint what I’m doing now, but I do enjoy what I’m doing now, so it’s… it was very hard to find.
125 00:11:39.270 ⇒ 00:11:50.300 Jasmin Multani: Yeah. Honestly, from what I’ve seen, even when I was an analyst, if a data scientist left the company, they would just give me their work.
126 00:11:50.590 ⇒ 00:11:51.120 Jasmin Multani: And I’m
127 00:11:52.120 ⇒ 00:11:59.569 Jasmin Multani: if I’m doing the same scope that the data scientist is doing, shouldn’t I update my title? And the reality is, like.
128 00:11:59.920 ⇒ 00:12:06.370 Jasmin Multani: Titles vary, but your day-to-day is what you want to be focused on. So if you feel like you need to be re-leveled.
129 00:12:06.380 ⇒ 00:12:23.750 Jasmin Multani: as an analytics engineer, like, yeah, let’s figure out how that could look like, because honestly, money is a really big motivation for me. Money and autonomy. Just being able to, like, adapt to different things,
130 00:12:24.260 ⇒ 00:12:26.140 Jasmin Multani: That’s what excites me.
131 00:12:26.320 ⇒ 00:12:31.309 Jasmin Multani: like, I… that’s why I chose to go further into data, it’s because I feel like…
132 00:12:31.810 ⇒ 00:12:49.839 Jasmin Multani: I can, like, use my hands to build something, but I can build it for anyone. So I know you touched up on, like, AI enablement, and you’re like, oh, what I’m doing now is not explicitly stated in JDs. I want you to keep in mind two things. People bullshit the titles, so…
133 00:12:49.970 ⇒ 00:12:52.060 Jasmin Multani: Always have, like, some sort of…
134 00:12:53.760 ⇒ 00:13:05.559 Jasmin Multani: suspicion when someone says their title, or says the title of the JD, and just press them on, like, okay, what do you do day-to-day? Who do you work with day-to-day?
135 00:13:05.630 ⇒ 00:13:14.039 Jasmin Multani: Whenever you network, or you look at JEs, or you’re gonna eventually reach out to people on LinkedIn and ask them about their job.
136 00:13:14.480 ⇒ 00:13:19.370 Jasmin Multani: Keep their title in mind, because the title is associated with, pay.
137 00:13:19.610 ⇒ 00:13:21.650 Jasmin Multani: And the types of people
138 00:13:21.800 ⇒ 00:13:28.769 Jasmin Multani: those people will end up working with. But, press them on their day-to-day.
139 00:13:29.150 ⇒ 00:13:32.400 Jasmin Multani: The second thing that I want to encourage you to think about is
140 00:13:32.700 ⇒ 00:13:35.799 Jasmin Multani: You know, the tools are gonna change pretty rapidly, like.
141 00:13:37.470 ⇒ 00:13:47.860 Jasmin Multani: it’s gonna change even more rapidly than the world has experienced ever before. But when you see these tools, being, highlighted in JDs.
142 00:13:48.110 ⇒ 00:13:52.190 Jasmin Multani: Loop back to the question of what problem is this trying to solve?
143 00:13:53.130 ⇒ 00:14:00.790 Jasmin Multani: You’d be surprised, but, like, a lot of the quote-unquote boring jobs, boring businesses, those end up having…
144 00:14:01.240 ⇒ 00:14:08.949 Jasmin Multani: The most robust, number of… Job listings and pay, because…
145 00:14:09.620 ⇒ 00:14:12.019 Jasmin Multani: These things are… have not been solved yet, right?
146 00:14:12.080 ⇒ 00:14:28.969 Jasmin Multani: And issues get reinvented. So, you know, I grew up watching Netflix turn into a DVD subscription to a streaming subscription, and now we’re all at an inflection point where, okay, we don’t have cable.
147 00:14:28.970 ⇒ 00:14:46.229 Jasmin Multani: But with the way Hulu, Netflix, and all these streaming companies are competing against each other, it’s being re-bundled as cable. I don’t know if you remember how cable… how it was growing up, but it was just like, oh, this is just… there was, like, a short period where
148 00:14:46.750 ⇒ 00:14:51.039 Jasmin Multani: you know, tech introduced something new to us, and binge-watching.
149 00:14:51.460 ⇒ 00:14:54.040 Jasmin Multani: and watching TV whenever you feel like it.
150 00:14:55.670 ⇒ 00:15:00.139 Jasmin Multani: Something new, but there’s still that, like, echo of an old…
151 00:15:00.680 ⇒ 00:15:04.669 Jasmin Multani: World, still in the current streaming programs.
152 00:15:05.210 ⇒ 00:15:17.969 Amber Lin: That is true, and I think what we are doing now is still the same issue. We’re still cleaning data, and organizing data, like, and we’re… even what I do now is enabling
153 00:15:17.970 ⇒ 00:15:31.409 Amber Lin: analysis and SQL queries. It’s still the same thing, and I think that’s why in the skills part, I do want to work on the analysis, and I think whatever is in, say.
154 00:15:31.480 ⇒ 00:15:51.109 Amber Lin: AI or in analytics engineering is to support that. I still want analysis to be, like, my main foundation. I… and I know, like, where I’m at, I’m still pretty early in that analysis foundation, but just in terms of, like, finding JDs, I agree with.
155 00:15:51.110 ⇒ 00:15:51.670 Jasmin Multani: your point.
156 00:15:51.670 ⇒ 00:15:56.170 Amber Lin: I probably… Can’t just look at what they post as their title.
157 00:15:56.170 ⇒ 00:16:08.219 Jasmin Multani: and the fact that you’re double-clicking to, like, the DPT certification with… with confidence, without blinking an eye, like, that… keep… keep paying attention to that, like.
158 00:16:08.460 ⇒ 00:16:14.769 Jasmin Multani: Pay attention to the things that you feel ready, to sign up to learn about.
159 00:16:15.240 ⇒ 00:16:16.379 Jasmin Multani: That’s interesting.
160 00:16:16.380 ⇒ 00:16:17.770 Amber Lin: Why do you say that?
161 00:16:18.670 ⇒ 00:16:22.379 Jasmin Multani: Cuz, the technical stuff is boring for a lot of people, like…
162 00:16:22.500 ⇒ 00:16:38.020 Jasmin Multani: I’ve watched people who also were at the same leveling and also had the same title as me, but, like, they were so annoying about using SQL, and, like, they would roll their eyes whenever they would be told to do, like, a basic
163 00:16:38.180 ⇒ 00:16:57.720 Jasmin Multani: histogram, analysis. So it’s like, even though we have the same… multiple people have the same titles and the same pay, you could tell, like, okay, this person would rather go more towards, like, the sales strategy. They don’t want to be bothered with learning about hard-coding things. This person is really good at nitty-gritty detail.
164 00:16:57.720 ⇒ 00:17:02.019 Jasmin Multani: And they care about, like, these edge cases. So…
165 00:17:02.670 ⇒ 00:17:19.649 Jasmin Multani: that, just, when you pay attention to, like, what you feel like you’re ready to take on, that’s also gonna be your instinct, right? Of what you can grow towards, because you’re gonna get to a point in your seniority where you’re like, even in life, you’re like.
166 00:17:19.859 ⇒ 00:17:30.090 Jasmin Multani: oh, I have free will. I’m not gonna go do this thing. I’m not gonna drink till 2AM. I’m gonna have a quiet night in. And these things are gonna be no-brainers for you.
167 00:17:30.280 ⇒ 00:17:37.110 Jasmin Multani: But in order to just be self-aware of that, so you’re not, like, you know…
168 00:17:37.560 ⇒ 00:17:42.860 Jasmin Multani: being a zombie and just doing things to do things to get them out of the way, like.
169 00:17:44.210 ⇒ 00:17:47.800 Jasmin Multani: I think having that mindset will help you,
170 00:17:48.430 ⇒ 00:17:54.489 Jasmin Multani: Do more of the stuff that you like, and question the having to do the things that you don’t like.
171 00:17:54.630 ⇒ 00:17:59.870 Jasmin Multani: Like, that’s not to say that, like, 100% of projects are gonna be purely enjoyment.
172 00:18:00.080 ⇒ 00:18:15.679 Jasmin Multani: there are gonna be some tasks that we have to get through to be like, okay, this is truly a transaction, I know I can do this, but it’s not my favorite thing to do, but I’m gonna time box it, and be very critical about how much I’ll iterate.
173 00:18:16.160 ⇒ 00:18:21.610 Jasmin Multani: So that I have more time and resources and money so I can pursue the things that I actually like.
174 00:18:24.470 ⇒ 00:18:39.940 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, and the way I’m gonna use this is I’m not gonna fill out column C for today, because this is, like, our primer, but I’m gonna check in on this week over week for our one-on-ones, and see, like, where we can get you to start expressing certain skills.
175 00:18:39.940 ⇒ 00:18:49.950 Amber Lin: Hmm. Yeah, that would be great. And, like, we can… we can start picking on certain things to go into. I also know… I’m probably going to call up with them later today, I think.
176 00:18:50.190 ⇒ 00:19:09.789 Amber Lin: he wants to talk about some shifts in strategy, because I know he has some new clients, and, like, right now, like, I don’t know if I’ll just be on CTA, or Eden, or, other clients. I think you’ll also know that once… once Utam and Robert talks about it. I don’t know.
177 00:19:10.600 ⇒ 00:19:19.180 Jasmin Multani: I mean, we have, like, a non-profit that we’re working with, too. We’re about to work with them. Is that some… do you… are you into nonprofits, or do you want to.
178 00:19:19.180 ⇒ 00:19:24.279 Amber Lin: The… the nature of the client doesn’t… doesn’t matter, it’s mostly the… the work.
179 00:19:24.280 ⇒ 00:19:25.979 Jasmin Multani: okay.
180 00:19:25.980 ⇒ 00:19:30.440 Amber Lin: And I think, like, while I would like to learn how to work with
181 00:19:30.730 ⇒ 00:19:42.179 Amber Lin: difficult or difficult stakeholders, I still, like, right now, work best with the nice stakeholders, and I would say the, the CTA stakeholders are just really nice.
182 00:19:42.180 ⇒ 00:19:42.920 Jasmin Multani: Okay.
183 00:19:42.920 ⇒ 00:19:44.370 Amber Lin: They’re a non-profit, so…
184 00:19:44.370 ⇒ 00:19:51.830 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, no worries, no worries. I think that that also helps. Yeah, don’t worry. You don’t have to…
185 00:19:51.950 ⇒ 00:20:03.899 Jasmin Multani: Let’s see, what else? Maybe we can just spend the next 9 minutes also talking about, like, what you actually like outside of work, because that’ll also tell me, like, the way your brain works.
186 00:20:04.510 ⇒ 00:20:05.110 Amber Lin: Okay.
187 00:20:05.300 ⇒ 00:20:11.979 Amber Lin: Well, the… the time… my time day-to-day right now is… is pretty…
188 00:20:12.090 ⇒ 00:20:18.639 Amber Lin: simple blocks. I work, and then I go to the gym, I dance or work out, and then I…
189 00:20:19.260 ⇒ 00:20:29.210 Amber Lin: that takes, like, 2 hours, sometimes, and then I shower, and I relax, and it’s bedtime, and I do some scrolling, or I read before bedtime, and then that’s it.
190 00:20:29.320 ⇒ 00:20:37.049 Amber Lin: So… I would say… I do like…
191 00:20:38.050 ⇒ 00:20:43.769 Amber Lin: new things. I get bored of certain things pretty fast. I would say having
192 00:20:44.420 ⇒ 00:20:50.010 Amber Lin: Here, actually, I can tell you why I like bands, and that’s because.
193 00:20:50.010 ⇒ 00:20:50.650 Jasmin Multani: Cool.
194 00:20:50.980 ⇒ 00:20:52.049 Jasmin Multani: It’s cute!
195 00:20:52.050 ⇒ 00:20:59.860 Amber Lin: There is multiple… like, first of all, there’s different aspects. One, you can get lost in the music, and.
196 00:20:59.860 ⇒ 00:21:00.540 Jasmin Multani: That’s me.
197 00:21:00.540 ⇒ 00:21:06.950 Amber Lin: More of a… it’s sort of like meditation. When you do yoga, it is a flow state.
198 00:21:07.700 ⇒ 00:21:17.929 Amber Lin: There is also a aspect of improvement that’s… there’s multiple dimensions of things you can work on. You can work
199 00:21:18.300 ⇒ 00:21:25.419 Amber Lin: form, you can work on strength, my strength train or do different things in the gym so that I can dance better, and then there’s…
200 00:21:25.610 ⇒ 00:21:30.430 Amber Lin: Different types of dance you can train to overall improve.
201 00:21:30.870 ⇒ 00:21:41.339 Amber Lin: how your performance is. So, there’s multiple areas that you can work on, and so it’s always…
202 00:21:41.570 ⇒ 00:21:52.040 Amber Lin: interesting, and you can see improvement, and I think, as I’ve said earlier, I like working on things, and I like working on
203 00:21:52.100 ⇒ 00:22:03.460 Amber Lin: new things. I sometimes get bored when I have to work on one thing for too long, and I think that could be the case of project management, where I had to do it for a very long time, and it’d be.
204 00:22:03.460 ⇒ 00:22:04.010 Jasmin Multani: jump.
205 00:22:04.010 ⇒ 00:22:05.240 Amber Lin: became repetitive.
206 00:22:05.420 ⇒ 00:22:06.230 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
207 00:22:06.230 ⇒ 00:22:10.410 Amber Lin: So… I was saying…
208 00:22:10.410 ⇒ 00:22:12.120 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, that helped, yeah.
209 00:22:12.120 ⇒ 00:22:12.670 Amber Lin: Yeah. It’s like a…
210 00:22:12.670 ⇒ 00:22:14.230 Jasmin Multani: infinite game.
211 00:22:14.230 ⇒ 00:22:16.879 Amber Lin: Yeah, I agree. I think that’s…
212 00:22:17.020 ⇒ 00:22:22.409 Amber Lin: That’s work, as well. I don’t really have a particular
213 00:22:23.050 ⇒ 00:22:28.270 Amber Lin: area that I know, hey, I… I want to specialize in this thing and dance, I kind of just…
214 00:22:28.930 ⇒ 00:22:43.089 Amber Lin: I… I dance because I enjoy doing it, and while I’m at it, I might as well do it better, and that’s the mindset of why I would train that way, for… it’s mostly for fun, and to be better is more fun, and…
215 00:22:43.090 ⇒ 00:22:43.920 Jasmin Multani: I can’t.
216 00:22:43.920 ⇒ 00:22:47.090 Amber Lin: I think when it comes to work is,
217 00:22:47.850 ⇒ 00:22:57.630 Amber Lin: like, I don’t think I’m working towards, like, a certain title. It’s just, if I’m going to spend so much time working, I feel…
218 00:22:58.410 ⇒ 00:23:05.419 Amber Lin: it’s, how do I say it? It is uncomfortable to know that I am the same over time.
219 00:23:05.420 ⇒ 00:23:06.850 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah.
220 00:23:06.960 ⇒ 00:23:08.440 Jasmin Multani: to track progress.
221 00:23:08.680 ⇒ 00:23:14.440 Amber Lin: Yeah, so that’s why I like this month that we’re doing certificates.
222 00:23:14.440 ⇒ 00:23:14.789 Jasmin Multani: I don’t stop.
223 00:23:14.790 ⇒ 00:23:23.459 Amber Lin: So, like, I like being able to spend time to do that, and having, like, known progress, and
224 00:23:23.460 ⇒ 00:23:39.069 Amber Lin: doing better. I also know that I am better than a year ago, obviously, in many aspects, so I like seeing that. So, it doesn’t… it doesn’t have to be that, oh, I’m a super senior title, or that,
225 00:23:39.280 ⇒ 00:23:54.889 Amber Lin: I am so much better at one particular task, it’s more as a whole, I know I’ve improved in this area, and then that area, and then that area, and it kind of compounds eventually, but it might not show right now, so…
226 00:23:56.230 ⇒ 00:23:58.799 Jasmin Multani: No, no, no worries.
227 00:23:59.710 ⇒ 00:24:04.469 Jasmin Multani: So I guess, like, back to the dance. So are you taking classes, or is it preform?
228 00:24:04.470 ⇒ 00:24:07.960 Amber Lin: I usually practice on my own, so…
229 00:24:07.960 ⇒ 00:24:08.300 Jasmin Multani: Oh, nice!
230 00:24:08.300 ⇒ 00:24:09.129 Amber Lin: I do different…
231 00:24:09.130 ⇒ 00:24:10.120 Jasmin Multani: power as well.
232 00:24:10.120 ⇒ 00:24:23.520 Amber Lin: Yeah, I go to the gym, and there’s usually, like, the yogurt room, or whatever’s outside. I sometimes use the vending machine as a mirror, but I occasionally go take classes, but those are more of…
233 00:24:23.610 ⇒ 00:24:40.369 Amber Lin: a level set of what my skill is, because it’s… you don’t get much time to think, you’re just trying to repeat a piece out, and trying to do as well… as well as you can in the fixed period, so it’s more like when you take
234 00:24:41.040 ⇒ 00:24:44.509 Amber Lin: a test, where it’s a very fixed…
235 00:24:44.620 ⇒ 00:24:47.120 Amber Lin: Exhibit of your skill, but you’re not.
236 00:24:47.120 ⇒ 00:24:47.500 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
237 00:24:47.500 ⇒ 00:24:54.109 Amber Lin: going to get… it’s less efficient to get better by taking classes.
238 00:24:55.410 ⇒ 00:24:58.399 Jasmin Multani: How do you know how to progress if you’re doing freeform?
239 00:25:00.980 ⇒ 00:25:10.669 Amber Lin: there’s… let’s say… let’s say when you dance, you dance to music. So there is musicality, and there is
240 00:25:11.320 ⇒ 00:25:12.740 Amber Lin: how you…
241 00:25:13.230 ⇒ 00:25:22.539 Amber Lin: appear in… if you were to squat, how… are you squatting at the right time, at the right angle? Does this…
242 00:25:22.730 ⇒ 00:25:30.610 Amber Lin: does this move feel good? Is it… does it flow well, or does it look good? Is it angled print?
243 00:25:30.720 ⇒ 00:25:43.809 Amber Lin: Right? Or can you hit the beat fast enough? Or can you extend fully and slowly? Like with yoga, can you control this movement, or can you have a quick enough burst? And then.
244 00:25:43.810 ⇒ 00:25:52.250 Amber Lin: once you have these individual pieces, is how do you assemble them together that move A and move B connects?
245 00:25:52.500 ⇒ 00:26:00.980 Amber Lin: Or how do you assemble multiple moves together so that you have a whole choreography that looks…
246 00:26:01.500 ⇒ 00:26:11.089 Amber Lin: has levels and has balance, and expresses the music. So, there’s… there’s always things that goes into
247 00:26:11.210 ⇒ 00:26:16.940 Amber Lin: composition. Composition is both a muscle and an art, so…
248 00:26:16.940 ⇒ 00:26:17.420 Jasmin Multani: Hmm, like.
249 00:26:17.420 ⇒ 00:26:31.379 Amber Lin: there’s… there’s different things, and the better you get, the more you see you can work on, and it’s… there’s all… you always hit phases where you think you’re kind of good, and then you’ll learn something new, and then you’ll know, oh, I can…
250 00:26:31.510 ⇒ 00:26:32.740 Amber Lin: Work on this.
251 00:26:34.290 ⇒ 00:26:37.589 Jasmin Multani: So you like puzzles. It sounds like you do like puzzles and making.
252 00:26:37.590 ⇒ 00:26:40.930 Amber Lin: I do like puzzles, and this is… I mean, this is what I do at work, too.
253 00:26:41.090 ⇒ 00:26:43.020 Jasmin Multani: okay.
254 00:26:44.420 ⇒ 00:26:49.590 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, I’m gonna keep thinking about what else you can do, and like.
255 00:26:50.290 ⇒ 00:26:53.900 Jasmin Multani: I guess, like, the way for you would be, like.
256 00:26:55.050 ⇒ 00:26:59.200 Jasmin Multani: We would… it sounds like you would be motivated if you… someone gave you a syllabus.
257 00:27:00.400 ⇒ 00:27:02.109 Amber Lin: The syllabus, what does that mean?
258 00:27:02.110 ⇒ 00:27:09.450 Jasmin Multani: As in, like, a tracker to be like, hey, in order to become, like, a more up-leveled analyst, this is what you do.
259 00:27:10.430 ⇒ 00:27:19.120 Amber Lin: through, but sometimes the syllable will probably change, like, every quarter. I like working on the syllabus, but my syllabus has never really lasted more than.
260 00:27:20.030 ⇒ 00:27:21.900 Amber Lin: A quarter, or at most a year.
261 00:27:22.320 ⇒ 00:27:24.350 Jasmin Multani: Mmm, okay, okay.
262 00:27:24.350 ⇒ 00:27:35.129 Amber Lin: In terms of projects, like, I don’t mind who projects. If you throw me a data analytics engineering project, I would be in pain when I start, but I would… I would like learning it.
263 00:27:35.310 ⇒ 00:27:41.880 Amber Lin: in pain. And then, like, I can get decent at it, and then I want to do a new thing. So it’s…
264 00:27:41.880 ⇒ 00:27:42.440 Jasmin Multani: I don’t know.
265 00:27:42.440 ⇒ 00:27:44.389 Amber Lin: Kinda like that. Pretty.
266 00:27:44.390 ⇒ 00:27:50.939 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, I, I think you get bored easily. Like, you’ll master it, and then you’re like, I don’t want to do this again.
267 00:27:51.180 ⇒ 00:27:52.790 Amber Lin: I think so.
268 00:27:52.790 ⇒ 00:28:09.160 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, that’s totally fine, that’s totally fine. Truthfully, like, a lot of… even, like, the things we program, it’s like, oh, this is… like, with the e-commerce stuff, I’m like, oh, I did this when I was 24. Why… why… why are we reinventing the wheel? There’s, like, a really standard way to do this.
269 00:28:09.370 ⇒ 00:28:27.589 Jasmin Multani: So… but that’s the nice thing. It’s like, once you learn something, you can just move on with your life. Because, again, like… like I mentioned, like, the muscle is still in there, as long as you’re, like, activating it once in a while. I wouldn’t say it 100% atrophies, though.
270 00:28:28.770 ⇒ 00:28:34.650 Jasmin Multani: So I think that’s okay, if you just were like, oh, let me… let me hop onto a different idea.
271 00:28:34.970 ⇒ 00:28:41.940 Jasmin Multani: But okay. This has given me ideas. I’m gonna go back to the drawing board and, like.
272 00:28:42.250 ⇒ 00:28:47.380 Jasmin Multani: come our next one-on-one, I’ll, like, give ideas of how you can, like.
273 00:28:47.650 ⇒ 00:29:05.240 Jasmin Multani: scope things out more, progress more for each of these skills, but also I’ll look for, like, actual projects, and be like, oh, this is… and just pitch it to you, and be like, hey, this is the type of thinking that would be required, that would be beneficial, to make you, like, a…
274 00:29:05.360 ⇒ 00:29:06.979 Jasmin Multani: Be able to help you, like.
275 00:29:07.130 ⇒ 00:29:10.500 Jasmin Multani: Get in to any… any future job that you want.
276 00:29:10.540 ⇒ 00:29:11.909 Amber Lin: Cool, fun.
277 00:29:12.270 ⇒ 00:29:14.309 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, I probably should have asked this.
278 00:29:14.930 ⇒ 00:29:19.759 Jasmin Multani: Mmm… earlier, but, like, next week, just feel free to tell me, like.
279 00:29:20.500 ⇒ 00:29:24.770 Jasmin Multani: You know, what are the top 3 things you want out of your career right now?
280 00:29:25.420 ⇒ 00:29:28.200 Jasmin Multani: Assuming that’s gonna change, but.
281 00:29:28.200 ⇒ 00:29:32.299 Amber Lin: Yeah. Like, Korea right now, you mean this company, or…
282 00:29:32.300 ⇒ 00:29:36.240 Jasmin Multani: Doesn’t have to be this company, but it could just be, like, this chapter, like…
283 00:29:36.640 ⇒ 00:29:49.320 Jasmin Multani: for example, like, I know, like, as a woman who does not have kids right now, does not even have a dog, I know that I can request different things for my job, but if I happen to start a family, like.
284 00:29:50.350 ⇒ 00:30:01.889 Jasmin Multani: my relationship with work will change inevitably. So, just, like, think about the chapter you’re at, and, like, what you’re willing to give and receive.
285 00:30:02.480 ⇒ 00:30:07.040 Jasmin Multani: And, like, what’s the payout for that? And it doesn’t have to be, like, a financial payout, it’s just, like.
286 00:30:07.040 ⇒ 00:30:15.769 Amber Lin: Yeah, that’s… that’s interesting. Can you send me the question, and if you have examples also, the example, I think I’ll have to… have to think about it. I don’t think I’ve thought about it in this way.
287 00:30:15.770 ⇒ 00:30:24.889 Jasmin Multani: Oh, really? Okay. I’ll just type it out, so it’s like, what would you like to receive and give?
288 00:30:25.560 ⇒ 00:30:30.619 Jasmin Multani: Out of your career in this chapter.
289 00:30:57.420 ⇒ 00:30:59.830 Jasmin Multani: sent you the question, and then…
290 00:31:00.750 ⇒ 00:31:04.119 Jasmin Multani: Let me know if that’s, like, what landed, and I said it.
291 00:31:04.350 ⇒ 00:31:06.400 Jasmin Multani: Just maybe reset something else.
292 00:31:07.480 ⇒ 00:31:10.969 Amber Lin: Yeah, that makes sense. I got the Slack message.
293 00:31:10.970 ⇒ 00:31:11.590 Jasmin Multani: Nice.
294 00:31:12.090 ⇒ 00:31:12.770 Amber Lin: Cool.
295 00:31:12.920 ⇒ 00:31:13.590 Amber Lin: Okay.
296 00:31:14.120 ⇒ 00:31:23.349 Jasmin Multani: Okay, I’ll let you go. If you need anything else, let me know, but I do feel like I need to index more on our relationship, just because…
297 00:31:24.060 ⇒ 00:31:31.449 Jasmin Multani: but then I are both stocked on elements, so it’s easy for me to view what he’s doing, but I need to be… I need… I’m trying to… I…
298 00:31:31.450 ⇒ 00:31:44.739 Jasmin Multani: come Tuesday, I’m gonna be more up to speed about, like, other clients that I’m not involved with, and understand, like, where… where you stand, and clearly it sounds like you’re doing a good job.
299 00:31:45.070 ⇒ 00:31:51.390 Jasmin Multani: But I just want to make sure that, like, are there projects in CTA
300 00:31:51.600 ⇒ 00:31:55.290 Jasmin Multani: That can map out to the skills that you want to work on right now.
301 00:31:55.440 ⇒ 00:31:59.459 Amber Lin: Yeah, cool. Sounds good, and I do want us to work on, like.
302 00:31:59.880 ⇒ 00:32:04.890 Amber Lin: Portfolio-wise, like, what the past looked like, and how it can…
303 00:32:05.080 ⇒ 00:32:07.749 Amber Lin: Because I… I only have scattered…
304 00:32:07.860 ⇒ 00:32:13.730 Amber Lin: Like, I did this project, I did that project, I did this, but, like, it doesn’t form a trace for me.
305 00:32:13.730 ⇒ 00:32:23.719 Jasmin Multani: Okay, yeah, and I think I saw you do that with the CTA and Eden in the spreadsheet, so let me also, like, template that out so that you can build that case.
306 00:32:24.490 ⇒ 00:32:37.470 Amber Lin: Okay, sounds good. And I think Kayla sent me the note that I think you gave about Eden and Elements, so thank you for that, so thank you for the nice words.
307 00:32:38.620 ⇒ 00:32:42.320 Jasmin Multani: Of course, of course, you’re doing well.
308 00:32:42.430 ⇒ 00:32:47.280 Jasmin Multani: still let the clients bring you down. It’s a reflection of them.
309 00:32:47.480 ⇒ 00:32:56.239 Amber Lin: Oh, good. I think the clients are, like, they’re fine people. Yeah, yeah. It was nice working with them. Alright, thank you so much, and I’ll see you next week.
310 00:32:56.240 ⇒ 00:32:59.020 Jasmin Multani: See you! Take care, and have fun at Hannah’s. Bye!
311 00:32:59.020 ⇒ 00:33:00.550 Amber Lin: Have a good weekend. Bye.