Meeting Title: Brainforge Platform Development Sync Date: 2026-04-30 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Awaish Kumar
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1 00:00:34.980 ⇒ 00:00:35.780 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, dude.
2 00:00:35.970 ⇒ 00:00:39.890 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, it’s just been, crazy morning, but…
3 00:00:40.250 ⇒ 00:00:44.530 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, I literally am gonna cry seeing your stuff, like, with joy.
4 00:00:45.890 ⇒ 00:00:49.429 Uttam Kumaran: Tell me, like, what changed this week?
5 00:00:52.410 ⇒ 00:00:53.930 Uttam Kumaran: Was it open code stuff?
6 00:00:56.890 ⇒ 00:01:03.299 Awaish Kumar: It was just, like, I was using Cursor with the… with Azure… Okay.
7 00:01:05.570 ⇒ 00:01:13.829 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, only thing is that I, like, the… My focus was shifted, like… from clients,
8 00:01:14.330 ⇒ 00:01:20.440 Awaish Kumar: freaking bugs, and from there, I just stepped… zoomed out, and… Yeah.
9 00:01:20.640 ⇒ 00:01:24.470 Awaish Kumar: We’re working on… thinking about more about Platform and…
10 00:01:24.820 ⇒ 00:01:27.030 Awaish Kumar: And observability, and things like that.
11 00:01:27.610 ⇒ 00:01:28.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
12 00:01:29.830 ⇒ 00:01:30.590 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
13 00:01:30.930 ⇒ 00:01:37.719 Uttam Kumaran: Tell me, like, I guess, before I get into the PRs, like, walk me through your development process.
14 00:01:37.850 ⇒ 00:01:40.069 Uttam Kumaran: Because I want to give you some…
15 00:01:40.260 ⇒ 00:01:44.930 Uttam Kumaran: tips on what I’ve learned, because if I can just show you
16 00:01:45.060 ⇒ 00:01:48.120 Uttam Kumaran: What my, world looks like.
17 00:01:48.360 ⇒ 00:01:53.660 Uttam Kumaran: So I basically… I’m working on, like, 5 or 6 entire…
18 00:01:53.880 ⇒ 00:02:01.330 Uttam Kumaran: applications simultaneously. So one good example of, like, what this could look like
19 00:02:01.640 ⇒ 00:02:07.060 Uttam Kumaran: is like, for example, I will be working on the Slack Assistant, I’m working on…
20 00:02:07.400 ⇒ 00:02:13.320 Uttam Kumaran: Brain Forge work, like, for example, I have, like.
21 00:02:15.510 ⇒ 00:02:21.399 Uttam Kumaran: I’m working on, this product for us, which is, like, our version of Cowork.
22 00:02:22.180 ⇒ 00:02:23.630 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I saw that.
23 00:02:23.630 ⇒ 00:02:29.739 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m working on that. I also have, like… I shipped this yesterday. Have you heard of HyperDX?
24 00:02:31.270 ⇒ 00:02:31.850 Awaish Kumar: Nope.
25 00:02:32.250 ⇒ 00:02:34.679 Uttam Kumaran: HyperDx is basically like Datadog.
26 00:02:34.790 ⇒ 00:02:37.060 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like open source telemetry.
27 00:02:37.660 ⇒ 00:02:44.920 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’ve shipped this, and it has a Click House and Redis, back end… And basically…
28 00:02:47.840 ⇒ 00:02:53.100 Uttam Kumaran: You can start to see, like,
29 00:02:53.310 ⇒ 00:03:04.180 Uttam Kumaran: all of our logs from any of our internal applications. So right now, I’ve only shipped the logs for a few, but you can imagine I want to see logs on Brainforge Assistant.
30 00:03:04.350 ⇒ 00:03:13.360 Uttam Kumaran: the work platform, our background agent, right? Like, another thing you may not have seen is in linear.
31 00:03:14.070 ⇒ 00:03:19.329 Uttam Kumaran: You can actually now go to a ticket and,
32 00:03:19.600 ⇒ 00:03:22.820 Uttam Kumaran: assign it to our BrainForge platform agent.
33 00:03:23.710 ⇒ 00:03:24.500 Awaish Kumar: Oh, okay.
34 00:03:25.140 ⇒ 00:03:30.089 Uttam Kumaran: And it triggers an open code job, which then executes and pushes the PR.
35 00:03:31.510 ⇒ 00:03:35.510 Uttam Kumaran: So finally, I can talk to somebody about some of these things.
36 00:03:35.810 ⇒ 00:03:42.080 Uttam Kumaran: But, so I have been building, like, a lot of shit right now, over the last… Three months.
37 00:03:42.310 ⇒ 00:03:43.390 Uttam Kumaran: So…
38 00:03:43.510 ⇒ 00:03:49.759 Uttam Kumaran: My process is I have several work trees in where I work on these things, and I’m using Orca.
39 00:03:49.900 ⇒ 00:03:59.630 Uttam Kumaran: Because the problem is, when you work on multiple things on the same, on the same… Basically…
40 00:04:00.360 ⇒ 00:04:05.139 Uttam Kumaran: Within the same folder, you start to get conflicts in terms of, like, branching and things like that.
41 00:04:05.390 ⇒ 00:04:09.710 Uttam Kumaran: Right now, so… Right now, what I’m doing is each of these is a different work tree.
42 00:04:10.380 ⇒ 00:04:13.739 Uttam Kumaran: And so I can just be free to work on everything, and then I ship a PR.
43 00:04:14.220 ⇒ 00:04:17.560 Uttam Kumaran: So I found, like, this is nice for parallel project work.
44 00:04:18.990 ⇒ 00:04:24.200 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so, in open code, but… So you are able to… like…
45 00:04:24.870 ⇒ 00:04:31.480 Awaish Kumar: include both, like, Tran Rep and BrainFudge platform, and then… Reference different files, right?
46 00:04:32.070 ⇒ 00:04:32.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
47 00:04:33.700 ⇒ 00:04:34.390 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
48 00:04:34.670 ⇒ 00:04:37.109 Awaish Kumar: And for that, what you are using?
49 00:04:39.440 ⇒ 00:04:43.730 Uttam Kumaran: Like, in terms of… in terms of the… this, this editor?
50 00:04:44.260 ⇒ 00:04:50.200 Awaish Kumar: Like, I… I tried that, I opened the open code, and backstop.
51 00:04:50.430 ⇒ 00:04:55.600 Awaish Kumar: And it basically… Only has permission to run folder.
52 00:04:55.600 ⇒ 00:04:57.879 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m not using Open Code Desktop anymore.
53 00:04:58.390 ⇒ 00:05:00.190 Uttam Kumaran: So, this is called Orca.
54 00:05:00.620 ⇒ 00:05:02.060 Awaish Kumar: Oh, it’s a different… okay.
55 00:05:02.060 ⇒ 00:05:05.219 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a different one. So I’m using… I’m using the terminal here.
56 00:05:05.350 ⇒ 00:05:08.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And I’m finding this is much better than Open Code Desktop.
57 00:05:10.350 ⇒ 00:05:14.030 Uttam Kumaran: It’s basically, like, more of a work tree management solution.
58 00:05:16.120 ⇒ 00:05:17.120 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
59 00:05:18.630 ⇒ 00:05:21.079 Uttam Kumaran: So you should try… you should try that, I’ll send it to you.
60 00:05:21.680 ⇒ 00:05:25.719 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I’ll try that. I tried a few others, like RooCode and…
61 00:05:26.560 ⇒ 00:05:28.919 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so the other thing I’m gonna do is a warp.
62 00:05:29.170 ⇒ 00:05:30.989 Uttam Kumaran: They just went open source.
63 00:05:32.090 ⇒ 00:05:32.580 Awaish Kumar: So…
64 00:05:32.580 ⇒ 00:05:38.940 Uttam Kumaran: I’m going to also check to see, like, If we can use this.
65 00:05:39.570 ⇒ 00:05:42.720 Uttam Kumaran: But, I’ll send you this.
66 00:05:45.750 ⇒ 00:05:47.240 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll send you both of these.
67 00:05:47.490 ⇒ 00:05:48.050 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
68 00:05:49.510 ⇒ 00:05:53.370 Awaish Kumar: And, is, did we change Azure API key?
69 00:05:56.560 ⇒ 00:05:57.860 Uttam Kumaran: No.
70 00:05:59.490 ⇒ 00:06:01.530 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I’m getting an error.
71 00:06:01.770 ⇒ 00:06:04.059 Awaish Kumar: That’s… it’s an… it’s an inundated.
72 00:06:04.300 ⇒ 00:06:07.109 Uttam Kumaran: Do you have the… you have Azure CLI access?
73 00:06:08.120 ⇒ 00:06:08.880 Awaish Kumar: Nope.
74 00:06:09.190 ⇒ 00:06:10.370 Awaish Kumar: I haven’t.
75 00:06:10.560 ⇒ 00:06:14.040 Awaish Kumar: console access, but I forgot the password.
76 00:06:15.510 ⇒ 00:06:16.380 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, hold on.
77 00:06:16.380 ⇒ 00:06:17.490 Awaish Kumar: At your portal.
78 00:06:31.170 ⇒ 00:06:36.159 Awaish Kumar: But there’s no API in 1Pass for… Azure CLI.
79 00:06:38.890 ⇒ 00:06:41.339 Uttam Kumaran: No, Azure CLI just uses your…
80 00:06:41.340 ⇒ 00:06:42.380 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so you’re just saying…
81 00:06:42.380 ⇒ 00:06:45.010 Uttam Kumaran: your login. Use AZLogin, yeah.
82 00:06:46.470 ⇒ 00:06:49.590 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so I… yeah, I requested that, I think,
83 00:06:53.370 ⇒ 00:06:58.700 Awaish Kumar: If you can… I already have, I think I already have an account, if you can just reset my password.
84 00:06:58.700 ⇒ 00:07:02.630 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let me see if I can do everything through… Through this.
85 00:07:16.210 ⇒ 00:07:19.580 Awaish Kumar: So, you are using OpenCode Xen, okay?
86 00:07:20.640 ⇒ 00:07:27.630 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so, dude, you should try… you should try, there’s a thread starting in Engineering Channel.
87 00:07:28.060 ⇒ 00:07:30.950 Awaish Kumar: So, I already have this set up for the Zen as well.
88 00:07:31.170 ⇒ 00:07:34.139 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but you should try… you should try GLM.
89 00:07:34.360 ⇒ 00:07:38.819 Uttam Kumaran: And you should try Kimmy 2.6. It’s better than Codex 5.3.
90 00:07:39.520 ⇒ 00:07:40.170 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
91 00:07:41.960 ⇒ 00:07:48.209 Uttam Kumaran: Or it’s at the same level. And also, like, Azure, we have money, but it’ll run out at some point, so…
92 00:07:50.020 ⇒ 00:07:54.109 Awaish Kumar: So the… Is it, like, Codex Zen? Is it cheaper than Azure?
93 00:07:54.860 ⇒ 00:07:58.240 Uttam Kumaran: Open Code Zen? Yeah. Yeah, it’s way cheaper.
94 00:07:59.960 ⇒ 00:08:01.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s super, super cheap.
95 00:08:02.150 ⇒ 00:08:05.959 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, I mean, I’m the one using most of the tokens.
96 00:08:06.250 ⇒ 00:08:11.030 Uttam Kumaran: But if you look at, like… Currently,
97 00:08:17.680 ⇒ 00:08:25.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, look at, like, some of the usage, for example, like, 94,000 tokens.
98 00:08:26.330 ⇒ 00:08:27.630 Uttam Kumaran: 13 cents.
99 00:08:28.990 ⇒ 00:08:31.430 Uttam Kumaran: 160,000 tokens.
100 00:08:32.669 ⇒ 00:08:33.789 Uttam Kumaran: 3 cents.
101 00:08:34.600 ⇒ 00:08:35.360 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
102 00:08:35.909 ⇒ 00:08:36.459 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
103 00:08:41.120 ⇒ 00:08:43.280 Uttam Kumaran: So I’ll add you here as admin.
104 00:08:43.289 ⇒ 00:08:44.479 Awaish Kumar: I’m already here.
105 00:08:44.720 ⇒ 00:08:45.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
106 00:08:47.960 ⇒ 00:08:50.910 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yesterday I ate… Actually set it up.
107 00:08:51.350 ⇒ 00:08:54.180 Awaish Kumar: also, but, I haven’t tried.
108 00:09:03.900 ⇒ 00:09:04.950 Awaish Kumar: I…
109 00:09:06.460 ⇒ 00:09:09.700 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so… These are all the people in here.
110 00:09:10.450 ⇒ 00:09:15.100 Uttam Kumaran: Looks like you’re global admin, AI Admin… account…
111 00:09:25.730 ⇒ 00:09:30.970 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna do a couple things. Okay, so remove the AI, Miguel…
112 00:10:02.010 ⇒ 00:10:06.989 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I also wanted to ask, are you using Superbase, for print version?
113 00:10:06.990 ⇒ 00:10:08.370 Uttam Kumaran: For our backend, yeah.
114 00:10:08.370 ⇒ 00:10:12.740 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. So, is there… Right.
115 00:10:13.540 ⇒ 00:10:18.360 Awaish Kumar: like, which project should I be using? There are three… Consumabis.
116 00:10:18.360 ⇒ 00:10:19.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let me show you.
117 00:10:19.860 ⇒ 00:10:23.139 Awaish Kumar: Should I use the internal AI? Yes.
118 00:10:23.140 ⇒ 00:10:24.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Yeah.
119 00:10:25.050 ⇒ 00:10:25.580 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
120 00:10:25.580 ⇒ 00:10:28.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you should use that one.
121 00:10:28.520 ⇒ 00:10:32.049 Awaish Kumar: Is password being used anywhere for database? No.
122 00:10:33.090 ⇒ 00:10:34.010 Uttam Kumaran: No.
123 00:10:34.010 ⇒ 00:10:34.960 Awaish Kumar: Something like that.
124 00:10:34.960 ⇒ 00:10:36.849 Uttam Kumaran: It’s all… it all should be token-based.
125 00:10:37.660 ⇒ 00:10:43.029 Awaish Kumar: The problem is that with the tokens, I don’t know why it’s saying that you can’t run.
126 00:10:43.030 ⇒ 00:10:43.450 Uttam Kumaran: Well.
127 00:10:43.450 ⇒ 00:10:43.980 Awaish Kumar: if…
128 00:10:44.800 ⇒ 00:10:45.480 Uttam Kumaran: Oh.
129 00:10:46.130 ⇒ 00:10:47.000 Uttam Kumaran: Really?
130 00:10:47.210 ⇒ 00:10:49.660 Awaish Kumar: Are you creating tables from code, or…
131 00:10:49.910 ⇒ 00:10:51.069 Awaish Kumar: In… in Super.
132 00:10:51.070 ⇒ 00:10:56.239 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, I’m… well, I’m creating them from the CLI, I’m like, I don’t even log in here.
133 00:10:57.230 ⇒ 00:11:02.039 Awaish Kumar: yeah, from CLI, it might work, but, like, if you want to, like, write a Python script.
134 00:11:03.690 ⇒ 00:11:05.730 Uttam Kumaran: No, but you can use SuperBase CLI.
135 00:11:11.070 ⇒ 00:11:16.309 Awaish Kumar: Just wanted to automate, like, table creation, if they’re a new field.
136 00:11:16.570 ⇒ 00:11:17.400 Awaish Kumar: Yes, I did.
137 00:11:17.400 ⇒ 00:11:20.490 Uttam Kumaran: Oh… Okay.
138 00:11:21.580 ⇒ 00:11:29.039 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I’m not… actually making that… I actually don’t need that for platform, I actually need for…
139 00:11:29.730 ⇒ 00:11:34.710 Awaish Kumar: to basically fill those tables, which Brainforge platform will be showing.
140 00:11:35.110 ⇒ 00:11:38.349 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you should use Superbase as the backend, yeah, but, like…
141 00:11:38.490 ⇒ 00:11:41.299 Awaish Kumar: No, no, I’m saying that I’m running separate scripts.
142 00:11:41.480 ⇒ 00:11:49.970 Awaish Kumar: that, basically, will grab the data from, for example, polyatomic runs, and inserts into the table.
143 00:11:50.560 ⇒ 00:11:50.890 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
144 00:11:50.890 ⇒ 00:11:54.500 Awaish Kumar: We’ll just look at, like, show us the data.
145 00:11:54.980 ⇒ 00:12:03.240 Awaish Kumar: Otherwise, like, it will be really slow, like, if platform is making calls to Polyatomic and GitHub and all this.
146 00:12:06.700 ⇒ 00:12:10.589 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, so you want to write a script that basically pulls it on a batch.
147 00:12:11.210 ⇒ 00:12:17.050 Awaish Kumar: So, there will be, like, for example, a script which is running every 10 minutes, and it grabs data from.
148 00:12:17.380 ⇒ 00:12:19.259 Uttam Kumaran: So why don’t you just run that in,
149 00:12:20.570 ⇒ 00:12:23.539 Uttam Kumaran: I guess you can run it as a GitHub Action or a Dagster for now.
150 00:12:23.540 ⇒ 00:12:26.570 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I will be running in GitHub Action, but for that, I need…
151 00:12:26.810 ⇒ 00:12:35.410 Awaish Kumar: database, like, to access… to create a table in Superbase, or create a new column, run DDL commands. Inside of the script, I need…
152 00:12:35.410 ⇒ 00:12:38.200 Uttam Kumaran: But why do you need the DDL?
153 00:12:38.840 ⇒ 00:12:41.560 Uttam Kumaran: Why don’t you just… you’re just updating a… you’re…
154 00:12:41.910 ⇒ 00:12:47.139 Awaish Kumar: inserting, you’re right, if I’m just inserting, it works, but what I’m trying to do is…
155 00:12:47.820 ⇒ 00:12:50.469 Awaish Kumar: That, like, if… yeah, if, like…
156 00:12:50.570 ⇒ 00:12:53.690 Awaish Kumar: New table column comes in, it can just be…
157 00:12:55.880 ⇒ 00:13:01.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I think you can go into Superbase, generate an admin… generate a token, and you can run on the fly
158 00:13:02.440 ⇒ 00:13:04.810 Uttam Kumaran: modify… you can run that on the fly.
159 00:13:05.040 ⇒ 00:13:06.190 Uttam Kumaran: through CLI.
160 00:13:10.340 ⇒ 00:13:14.510 Uttam Kumaran: Like, you can trigger Supabase CLI and run the query.
161 00:13:14.850 ⇒ 00:13:15.930 Awaish Kumar: I agree, okay.
162 00:13:15.930 ⇒ 00:13:17.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so try that.
163 00:13:17.750 ⇒ 00:13:21.800 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so that… okay, I was… Creating a one…
164 00:13:23.340 ⇒ 00:13:29.029 Awaish Kumar: Python script to do that, but, like, if I use CLI and GitHub Action directly, I have to just…
165 00:13:29.230 ⇒ 00:13:32.990 Awaish Kumar: split my… Script a little bit, but okay.
166 00:13:57.090 ⇒ 00:13:58.829 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s see if this works.
167 00:16:04.570 ⇒ 00:16:11.699 Uttam Kumaran: And then tell me about your process of, like, building right now. Like, how are you, sort of, building this stuff? Like, what’s your, sort of, like, end-to-end process?
168 00:16:12.610 ⇒ 00:16:20.019 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, for me, I’m… I’m trying to… First of all, I… Grab all the…
169 00:16:21.490 ⇒ 00:16:25.540 Awaish Kumar: like, write down all the specifications that I am looking for.
170 00:16:26.060 ⇒ 00:16:35.679 Awaish Kumar: For example, And, metrics layer, what I need, right? And in the observability, I need, like.
171 00:16:35.870 ⇒ 00:16:40.420 Awaish Kumar: Clients, and then layers, each, and the freshness, like, whatever…
172 00:16:41.660 ⇒ 00:16:44.620 Awaish Kumar: things that are in my mind, I just, like,
173 00:16:44.820 ⇒ 00:16:48.060 Awaish Kumar: Speak it out and copy-paste this transcript.
174 00:16:48.580 ⇒ 00:16:51.130 Awaish Kumar: put it in cursor, and build the plan.
175 00:16:51.470 ⇒ 00:16:52.930 Awaish Kumar: Petrate over it.
176 00:16:58.770 ⇒ 00:17:06.890 Awaish Kumar: trade over it, and then we also… yeah, it also suggests me, now, the new skills that you are… there are new skills.
177 00:17:07.220 ⇒ 00:17:10.610 Awaish Kumar: So if it is, like, anything too, like, good in me, or…
178 00:17:11.009 ⇒ 00:17:17.459 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly, so one thing you should try is, like, here’s an example, I’m working on our stability sprint.
179 00:17:17.709 ⇒ 00:17:18.899 Uttam Kumaran: And…
180 00:17:19.239 ⇒ 00:17:26.699 Uttam Kumaran: I basically gave it a bunch of our slacks and things like that. I told it to go look through Notion, look through the platform.
181 00:17:26.849 ⇒ 00:17:31.779 Uttam Kumaran: and just, like, find everything, and it said, cool, I found a bunch of stuff on data observability.
182 00:17:32.109 ⇒ 00:17:38.299 Uttam Kumaran: And then I said I wanted you to do the CE Brainstorm. It basically, now it starts asking me questions.
183 00:17:38.529 ⇒ 00:17:41.949 Uttam Kumaran: Right? About the… about the plan.
184 00:17:42.129 ⇒ 00:17:46.379 Uttam Kumaran: And then, ultimately, it… it keeps going and asks me more questions.
185 00:17:46.589 ⇒ 00:17:51.659 Uttam Kumaran: Like, and then I give it some more context, or this is, like, sort of copying and pasting, weirdly.
186 00:17:51.799 ⇒ 00:17:54.659 Uttam Kumaran: And then, what I do is I run CEPlan.
187 00:17:54.769 ⇒ 00:17:57.399 Uttam Kumaran: which creates the, like, almost like a PRD.
188 00:17:57.949 ⇒ 00:18:00.389 Uttam Kumaran: And then I run CE Doc Review.
189 00:18:01.039 ⇒ 00:18:04.629 Uttam Kumaran: CE doc review will send, like, 4 or 5 sub-agents.
190 00:18:04.769 ⇒ 00:18:11.609 Uttam Kumaran: like, security review, product review, and then it will basically iterate, and then I say CE work.
191 00:18:12.109 ⇒ 00:18:21.339 Uttam Kumaran: And then CE work will start to execute. But each step of the way, I go read the plan, and I’m like, this is too much, this is too little. So you can see, like, this is all planning.
192 00:18:21.499 ⇒ 00:18:27.529 Uttam Kumaran: I didn’t do anything… I haven’t even executed this, I’m still… I’m still planning right now.
193 00:18:27.789 ⇒ 00:18:28.719 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
194 00:18:30.659 ⇒ 00:18:35.599 Uttam Kumaran: for example, like, dbt’s cloud-native Slack alerts could solve 80% of this.
195 00:18:35.699 ⇒ 00:18:42.479 Uttam Kumaran: But platform observability… so then it’s gonna be like, do you want to use that? Do you want to use open source?
196 00:18:43.089 ⇒ 00:18:43.989 Awaish Kumar: Right?
197 00:18:45.669 ⇒ 00:18:46.489 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
198 00:18:47.770 ⇒ 00:18:48.810 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I…
199 00:18:48.940 ⇒ 00:18:58.780 Awaish Kumar: I tried also looking at some of the open source tools, and, like, none of them gives us the view we need right now, like…
200 00:18:59.310 ⇒ 00:19:01.750 Awaish Kumar: They’re all kind view, right?
201 00:19:02.040 ⇒ 00:19:05.179 Awaish Kumar: if we use Metaplane or any other tool.
202 00:19:05.980 ⇒ 00:19:10.320 Awaish Kumar: like, Grafana or something. They’re really… Complex?
203 00:19:10.320 ⇒ 00:19:10.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
204 00:19:12.310 ⇒ 00:19:19.530 Awaish Kumar: Like, people… client might want, like, okay, implement this for me, and then it will be a… 10 tools for 10 different clients.
205 00:19:19.990 ⇒ 00:19:20.760 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
206 00:19:22.430 ⇒ 00:19:27.570 Awaish Kumar: So with this, at least, like, the very basic view, for now, we can have
207 00:19:28.240 ⇒ 00:19:31.190 Awaish Kumar: everything at one place. You can go in the…
208 00:19:31.450 ⇒ 00:19:37.509 Awaish Kumar: Overview of the client, and it can give you a health check, like, if everything is… It’s fading.
209 00:19:37.720 ⇒ 00:19:41.289 Uttam Kumaran: But probably my only thing is, like, we host that.
210 00:19:41.830 ⇒ 00:19:46.189 Uttam Kumaran: So, some clients… May not want us to take that data.
211 00:19:46.890 ⇒ 00:19:51.009 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s why I’m starting to try to think about, is there something we can put on their side?
212 00:19:51.900 ⇒ 00:19:52.500 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.
213 00:19:52.500 ⇒ 00:19:56.680 Awaish Kumar: None of, like, none of, like, the real data is on our side, right?
214 00:19:56.880 ⇒ 00:19:58.769 Awaish Kumar: We are… we have the.
215 00:19:58.770 ⇒ 00:19:59.749 Uttam Kumaran: True, true, true.
216 00:20:00.070 ⇒ 00:20:12.720 Awaish Kumar: We already have the failures, and for the metrics also, like, dbt will store store… yeah, with the store failures, dbt will store failures in their warehouse. We are just going to read the error and work on it.
217 00:20:13.070 ⇒ 00:20:14.170 Uttam Kumaran: True, true, true.
218 00:20:14.350 ⇒ 00:20:15.210 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
219 00:20:24.250 ⇒ 00:20:33.010 Awaish Kumar: And we have control, so now that once we have all the dbt errors coming to our platform, like, we can utilize some of your…
220 00:20:33.730 ⇒ 00:20:34.140 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
221 00:20:35.490 ⇒ 00:20:37.980 Awaish Kumar: For failure, so it can.
222 00:20:37.980 ⇒ 00:20:38.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
223 00:20:38.600 ⇒ 00:20:39.790 Awaish Kumar: and create PR.
224 00:20:39.790 ⇒ 00:20:41.730 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly, exactly, exactly.
225 00:20:45.440 ⇒ 00:20:47.769 Uttam Kumaran: So part of it is also, if we have playbooks.
226 00:20:47.930 ⇒ 00:20:49.750 Uttam Kumaran: the AI can just run the playbook.
227 00:20:51.020 ⇒ 00:20:56.229 Uttam Kumaran: the playbook should almost read, like, the whole execution plan. Do you kind of see the journey?
228 00:20:56.470 ⇒ 00:20:59.370 Uttam Kumaran: The more playbooks we have, the more we can hand off.
229 00:21:00.120 ⇒ 00:21:04.119 Uttam Kumaran: If we don’t have the playbooks, then every time you have to do this.
230 00:21:06.450 ⇒ 00:21:07.050 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
231 00:21:09.320 ⇒ 00:21:12.820 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I’m obviously seeing the difference with playbooks.
232 00:21:14.980 ⇒ 00:21:15.660 Awaish Kumar: Bye.
233 00:21:15.840 ⇒ 00:21:20.000 Uttam Kumaran: That’s… that’s the biggest… I mean, I think that’s the biggest unlock, is like…
234 00:21:21.140 ⇒ 00:21:23.519 Uttam Kumaran: Can we do the playbooks, things like that.
235 00:21:25.080 ⇒ 00:21:25.930 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
236 00:21:35.950 ⇒ 00:21:36.840 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
237 00:21:50.360 ⇒ 00:21:51.110 Awaish Kumar: So…
238 00:21:55.430 ⇒ 00:22:03.390 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so one thing today, I can push those PRs through. I think you should try those new skills, and then I’ll unblock your Azure.
239 00:22:05.360 ⇒ 00:22:11.059 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so this Brainforce platform web, what it is doing, is it kind of deploying and staging, or what?
240 00:22:12.120 ⇒ 00:22:13.699 Uttam Kumaran: Are you in railway?
241 00:22:14.460 ⇒ 00:22:15.130 Awaish Kumar: Yes.
242 00:22:15.300 ⇒ 00:22:18.100 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, everything’s getting deployed in Railway.
243 00:22:18.880 ⇒ 00:22:21.339 Awaish Kumar: No, on the GitHub PR, this…
244 00:22:21.340 ⇒ 00:22:23.040 Uttam Kumaran: On the PR, there’s a review app.
245 00:22:25.330 ⇒ 00:22:28.489 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, so this check is failing for me, I don’t know…
246 00:22:29.690 ⇒ 00:22:32.690 Awaish Kumar: The check is BrainForge Platform Web.
247 00:22:33.210 ⇒ 00:22:34.949 Awaish Kumar: on one of my PR.
248 00:22:38.950 ⇒ 00:22:42.259 Uttam Kumaran: on Brain First Platform, so you should just have your AI debug that.
249 00:22:44.320 ⇒ 00:22:45.660 Awaish Kumar: Okay, so…
250 00:22:49.300 ⇒ 00:22:52.650 Awaish Kumar: Okay, yeah, some… something’s wrong. I just wanted…
251 00:22:52.900 ⇒ 00:22:57.299 Awaish Kumar: So, one of the PR is fine, and all the checks are passed, we can…
252 00:22:58.330 ⇒ 00:23:04.200 Awaish Kumar: But for other 3, I’m still… the checks, yep.
253 00:23:06.200 ⇒ 00:23:08.140 Uttam Kumaran: Which one is the one that’s all passed?
254 00:23:09.350 ⇒ 00:23:11.980 Awaish Kumar: It’s… it’s for the… for…
255 00:23:16.690 ⇒ 00:23:22.649 Awaish Kumar: If you filter by all… Like, the… Otter? A lege?
256 00:23:23.480 ⇒ 00:23:27.330 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I see the data offer, but the other one, it looks like it’s… okay.
257 00:23:27.790 ⇒ 00:23:33.390 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, data offer is fine, and then the… Those are the memos.
258 00:23:35.130 ⇒ 00:23:37.199 Awaish Kumar: The old one, this is the old one.
259 00:23:41.030 ⇒ 00:23:44.129 Uttam Kumaran: But 1020 looks like there’s still a lint issue.
260 00:23:45.690 ⇒ 00:23:48.650 Awaish Kumar: 10? 19. Or 10, 20…
261 00:23:48.650 ⇒ 00:23:50.789 Uttam Kumaran: 10.120 and 1019 is still running.
262 00:23:51.240 ⇒ 00:23:53.920 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, 1019 is running, I’m working on that right now.
263 00:23:53.920 ⇒ 00:23:54.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
264 00:24:04.750 ⇒ 00:24:08.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I have to drop to another call. But Slack me today.
265 00:24:08.790 ⇒ 00:24:09.670 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, sure.
266 00:24:09.670 ⇒ 00:24:11.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. Alright, thanks, dude.