Meeting Title: Sam - Brylle - GROW Ramp up plan Date: 2026-04-28 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Samuel Roberts
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1 00:00:48.000 ⇒ 00:00:48.950 Samuel Roberts: Hello?
2 00:00:51.570 ⇒ 00:00:52.440 Brylle Girang: Hey!
3 00:00:52.730 ⇒ 00:00:53.850 Brylle Girang: How are you doing?
4 00:00:54.490 ⇒ 00:00:56.070 Samuel Roberts: Doing alright, how about yourself?
5 00:00:56.990 ⇒ 00:00:59.909 Brylle Girang: Good, good. How’s… how’s Aria?
6 00:01:01.300 ⇒ 00:01:05.949 Samuel Roberts: Aria’s very good. Yeah, we had a little, road trip this weekend from
7 00:01:06.110 ⇒ 00:01:12.500 Samuel Roberts: I’m in Cleveland, down to Cincinnati, which is about 4 hours, and she got to hang out with another dog and play a bunch, so…
8 00:01:13.230 ⇒ 00:01:23.209 Brylle Girang: That’s cool, that’s cool, and I feel bad, like, I remember Aria’s name, but I completely forgot what the name of your child was. Can you help me remember?
9 00:01:24.100 ⇒ 00:01:25.700 Samuel Roberts: His name is Brennan.
10 00:01:26.230 ⇒ 00:01:29.230 Brylle Girang: Brennan, okay, okay. Well, how’s Brennan?
11 00:01:29.790 ⇒ 00:01:34.099 Samuel Roberts: He’s very good, too. He had a good weekend, playing with the dogs. He loves animals.
12 00:01:34.470 ⇒ 00:01:37.390 Samuel Roberts: So, new dogs are always very exciting for him, yeah.
13 00:01:37.710 ⇒ 00:01:39.540 Brylle Girang: That’s amazing, that’s amazing.
14 00:01:39.540 ⇒ 00:01:39.940 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah.
15 00:01:39.940 ⇒ 00:01:44.610 Brylle Girang: I think that you were supposed to be, like, out of office yesterday, but…
16 00:01:44.950 ⇒ 00:01:45.940 Samuel Roberts: We’ve seen that you…
17 00:01:45.940 ⇒ 00:01:46.870 Brylle Girang: been working.
18 00:01:47.340 ⇒ 00:01:58.670 Samuel Roberts: So, we had a wedding Sunday night, and we had to drive back yesterday, so… and I wasn’t sure when we were driving, but I was able to get some time in the morning, and then during the car ride, and so I was… I didn’t want to leave the…
19 00:01:58.790 ⇒ 00:02:01.020 Samuel Roberts: like, project hanging, so.
20 00:02:01.020 ⇒ 00:02:01.610 Brylle Girang: Okay.
21 00:02:01.610 ⇒ 00:02:08.190 Samuel Roberts: it worked out, but yeah, it was, it was… it was, like, a preemptive, like, okay, I might not make it, but, yeah.
22 00:02:08.840 ⇒ 00:02:10.490 Brylle Girang: Okay, okay, cool. Busy weekend.
23 00:02:10.490 ⇒ 00:02:11.490 Samuel Roberts: And, yeah.
24 00:02:12.200 ⇒ 00:02:23.979 Brylle Girang: So, Sam, this conversation is just going to be, like, me listening more about what your thought process was, what you reflected on, and what your next plans are going to be.
25 00:02:24.120 ⇒ 00:02:31.629 Brylle Girang: I think I’m going to start with, you know, how do you feel, how do you want to wrap up, again, as NSL?
26 00:02:32.210 ⇒ 00:02:33.050 Brylle Girang: All those stuff.
27 00:02:33.870 ⇒ 00:02:35.529 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I think…
28 00:02:35.850 ⇒ 00:02:51.199 Samuel Roberts: I’ve been thinking about this a bit, especially when I’ve been doing more IC work now, which has been somewhat nice to just get back into building some stuff a little bit, like, and not thinking about some of the other things. I know we talked about, like, a month, kind of.
29 00:02:51.700 ⇒ 00:02:57.989 Samuel Roberts: Ramp up, but I’m wondering if we could maybe stretch that, because I… I’m feeling like…
30 00:02:58.260 ⇒ 00:02:59.529 Samuel Roberts: What’s the word here?
31 00:02:59.890 ⇒ 00:03:03.229 Samuel Roberts: I’m kind of enjoying the building a bit more.
32 00:03:04.100 ⇒ 00:03:04.530 Brylle Girang: Okay.
33 00:03:04.530 ⇒ 00:03:08.290 Samuel Roberts: And I… I know I have… Like…
34 00:03:09.360 ⇒ 00:03:18.789 Samuel Roberts: just some… what’s the word I’m trying to think of here? I can’t quite… Okay, you have to stay there. The cat just keeps trying to jump on my lap, and it… no, you gotta stay, you gotta stay.
35 00:03:20.150 ⇒ 00:03:21.900 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I…
36 00:03:22.880 ⇒ 00:03:35.339 Samuel Roberts: I don’t know, I think I’m just, like, a little torn right now, but so far I’ve been… I’ve been liking more of the building. And so I don’t want to, like, just be, like, completely… no, I don’t want to do it, but I’m wondering if, like, it’s a longer…
37 00:03:35.840 ⇒ 00:03:37.889 Samuel Roberts: ramp up, maybe.
38 00:03:37.890 ⇒ 00:03:40.379 Brylle Girang: Yeah, no, no, yeah, I think I understand you, like.
39 00:03:40.520 ⇒ 00:03:42.790 Brylle Girang: I think where you’re coming from is that
40 00:03:42.900 ⇒ 00:03:52.889 Brylle Girang: currently, like, you feel good in the ICU role, but you’re not completely taking away, like, the SL… the SL desire, or something like that.
41 00:03:53.180 ⇒ 00:04:00.049 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, and I think there’s something about, like, senior IC that is still, like, I’m still working with Mustafa and Casey. It’s not like I’m…
42 00:04:00.050 ⇒ 00:04:00.710 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
43 00:04:00.710 ⇒ 00:04:01.780 Samuel Roberts: not…
44 00:04:02.250 ⇒ 00:04:07.070 Samuel Roberts: you know, I’m not just like, give me the ticket, let me run that, do it. Like, there’s still a bit of, like.
45 00:04:07.230 ⇒ 00:04:12.929 Samuel Roberts: you know, mentorship, or whatever it is, helping, aiding, that I, I like.
46 00:04:13.510 ⇒ 00:04:24.509 Samuel Roberts: you know, I don’t want to eliminate that side of it. And I don’t think it does, necessarily, if I think of it as, like, you know, the kind of role and position that I’m in in general, but,
47 00:04:24.980 ⇒ 00:04:35.020 Samuel Roberts: you know, I want… I want to be as, like, useful as I can as well, and so I don’t want to just be like, this is where I want to pigeonhole myself, but at the same time, I feel like…
48 00:04:36.110 ⇒ 00:04:48.390 Samuel Roberts: I… I feel more comfortable with that. The other side of it is just, like, the industry in general is a little, like, we’re moving real fast, AI stuff. I’ve been seeing a lot of stuff about, like.
49 00:04:48.460 ⇒ 00:05:01.549 Samuel Roberts: you know, where the bottlenecks are now, and how that shifted from code generation to, like, code review. And so, the idea of, like, okay, even as we add more clients, like, being
50 00:05:01.550 ⇒ 00:05:12.000 Samuel Roberts: the one to, like, guarantee that everything that’s being generated is good makes me a little bit, like, I… I think we need a few more processes in place for that for me to feel, like, comfortable, and that’s something I’m happy to, like.
51 00:05:12.070 ⇒ 00:05:12.650 Samuel Roberts: help.
52 00:05:12.650 ⇒ 00:05:13.240 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
53 00:05:13.240 ⇒ 00:05:15.460 Samuel Roberts: with more, but I’m also, like.
54 00:05:15.580 ⇒ 00:05:23.040 Samuel Roberts: still learning how to work in this AI environment as we all are, you know? Like, things change week to week, even, you know?
55 00:05:23.060 ⇒ 00:05:38.039 Samuel Roberts: So it’s, it’s one of those things, like, playing… it feels like playing catch-up constantly, which is exciting, but also a little exhausting, and it makes me just a little nervous about, like, where… like, where to find that balance of, like, speed and quality, I guess.
56 00:05:39.900 ⇒ 00:05:44.059 Brylle Girang: Okay, and, like, how do you feel right now? Do you feel better?
57 00:05:45.710 ⇒ 00:05:51.479 Brylle Girang: I guess better is a really, really vague term, but…
58 00:05:51.480 ⇒ 00:05:52.339 Samuel Roberts: No, it is, it is.
59 00:05:52.340 ⇒ 00:05:54.020 Brylle Girang: I feel more energized, yeah.
60 00:05:54.290 ⇒ 00:06:10.329 Samuel Roberts: I think… I think so. There’s something, and I think this comes a little bit from just, like, my startup, like, history. I don’t know how much you know about, like, my… my career thus far, but, you know, it’s been mostly, like, building with a small group of people, you know, where I…
61 00:06:10.530 ⇒ 00:06:16.780 Samuel Roberts: obviously, like, AI changes the calculus a little bit, but it’s not 100% different in terms of, like, you know, my last
62 00:06:16.920 ⇒ 00:06:29.129 Samuel Roberts: company was, like, me and another co-founder, and he was the designer, and so it was, like, a good back and forth, and, like, there’s a lot of product stuff that kind of happens tacitly, but I think it’s less… it’s still, like, focused on the results.
63 00:06:29.710 ⇒ 00:06:30.220 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
64 00:06:30.220 ⇒ 00:06:40.319 Samuel Roberts: Which is… is… is nice to have my hands in that more, maybe? And again, especially with just, like, a lot of code getting generated, it’s hard to know, like…
65 00:06:40.690 ⇒ 00:06:45.199 Samuel Roberts: what’s good, what’s… what’s gonna be technical debt, what’s gonna be… what was the phrase I saw?
66 00:06:45.450 ⇒ 00:06:48.089 Samuel Roberts: It wasn’t technical debt, what was it?
67 00:06:48.410 ⇒ 00:06:54.940 Samuel Roberts: There was another phrase someone used that I really liked, and it was… Comprehension debt.
68 00:06:55.170 ⇒ 00:07:06.739 Samuel Roberts: Where, you know, technical debt is good because you’re aware of it, and when something breaks, it’s obvious. Comprehension debt is the idea that, like.
69 00:07:06.880 ⇒ 00:07:19.649 Samuel Roberts: you don’t really know what the code is, and so when it comes time to fix it, you know, either you’re still relying on the AI to patch something, or… you know, so there’s… I’m just, like, grappling with some of these things is a little bit,
70 00:07:20.770 ⇒ 00:07:22.180 Samuel Roberts: You know, additional…
71 00:07:23.280 ⇒ 00:07:29.560 Samuel Roberts: I don’t want to say stress, but you know what I mean? Just mental load that I’m like, where do I want to be in that… in that kind of…
72 00:07:29.900 ⇒ 00:07:37.430 Samuel Roberts: spectrum, I guess. But yeah, I think I’m feeling good, like, working on things. I like… you know, I never wanted to be completely out of
73 00:07:37.950 ⇒ 00:07:40.290 Samuel Roberts: technical stuff in general, like, I don’t wanna…
74 00:07:40.620 ⇒ 00:07:43.409 Samuel Roberts: Step so far away that it’s like…
75 00:07:43.910 ⇒ 00:07:46.479 Samuel Roberts: I don’t really know what’s happening in the trenches kind of vibe.
76 00:07:46.480 ⇒ 00:07:46.950 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
77 00:07:46.950 ⇒ 00:07:51.810 Samuel Roberts: But I definitely am enjoying, like.
78 00:07:52.010 ⇒ 00:07:54.829 Samuel Roberts: a little bit more of the, okay, no, this is… this is what I’m…
79 00:07:54.930 ⇒ 00:08:10.280 Samuel Roberts: I’m doing is, like, the building, the fixing, the patch chains, like, working with the AI to do that sort of stuff. And yeah, I think I feel maybe a little bit better, and I think part of it is just, like, I know… I understand this role better, because I’ve done it a lot more just in terms of the building. That’s not to say I don’t…
80 00:08:10.830 ⇒ 00:08:18.790 Samuel Roberts: want to do at least parts of the other, like, kind of SL role, or aid that, or whatever,
81 00:08:19.940 ⇒ 00:08:31.700 Samuel Roberts: But there’s definitely a bit of a, like, okay, this I understand. I want to kind of get into that a little bit more, but I don’t want to, you know, be so far removed that by the time we have a bunch of clients, I’m not really in the…
82 00:08:31.940 ⇒ 00:08:39.199 Samuel Roberts: in the weeds a little bit, and know, because I think that’s gonna make it hard to feel… to guarantee quality anyway. Yeah.
83 00:08:39.200 ⇒ 00:08:39.730 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
84 00:08:40.270 ⇒ 00:08:45.680 Samuel Roberts: Which is already, I think, a little bit of a struggle with some of the AI generation stuff, you know.
85 00:08:46.870 ⇒ 00:08:50.069 Samuel Roberts: So that’s sort of where my head’s at, I guess, in general.
86 00:08:51.830 ⇒ 00:09:04.829 Samuel Roberts: I think, like, a… I don’t want to say, like, no, I don’t want to do it, but I think, like, a slower ramp-up might be where I’m feeling it. There’s also just, like, I mean, personally, like, life is a little busy right now, and I don’t…
87 00:09:05.100 ⇒ 00:09:06.759 Samuel Roberts: I don’t, you know…
88 00:09:07.380 ⇒ 00:09:20.810 Samuel Roberts: want to let that influence it too much, but I feel like I will be in a better place in a few months when things have calmed down. I think I mentioned, like, the first half of the year, we have, like, 4 weddings, and that meant, like… and it was, like, it’s…
89 00:09:20.810 ⇒ 00:09:34.660 Samuel Roberts: My wife and I were talking about this. It’s like, we’re 30-something now, we didn’t think we’d be having these many weddings, and we have a baby, but they’re also, like, weddings, like, it’s my sister’s wedding, you can’t not go to your sister’s… you know what I mean? It’s not like I can be like, oh, no, that’s like a friend, an acquaintance kind of thing.
90 00:09:34.820 ⇒ 00:09:35.660 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
91 00:09:36.130 ⇒ 00:09:42.890 Samuel Roberts: And so it’s just one of those things that, like, I know what I’m doing now, and I feel a little bit better when I’m, like, building and,
92 00:09:43.420 ⇒ 00:09:49.380 Samuel Roberts: even a little bit of, like, architecting and doing the kind of, like, you know, different levels of it.
93 00:09:49.500 ⇒ 00:09:53.820 Samuel Roberts: But some of the, like, service line stuff, I feel like I’m… either not…
94 00:09:53.950 ⇒ 00:09:59.800 Samuel Roberts: as comfortable with, which is fine, and I want to get there, obviously. I still… I don’t want to, like.
95 00:09:59.940 ⇒ 00:10:07.780 Samuel Roberts: you know, cap where I am in terms of my understanding of how things operate, and I want to get better at that.
96 00:10:08.440 ⇒ 00:10:16.170 Samuel Roberts: But I think there’s also just, like, how I… the capacity I have to do that while also maintaining quality, makes me…
97 00:10:16.170 ⇒ 00:10:16.770 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
98 00:10:16.770 ⇒ 00:10:20.890 Samuel Roberts: nervous in general, I’d say, so… Okay.
99 00:10:20.890 ⇒ 00:10:21.540 Brylle Girang: Yep.
100 00:10:21.730 ⇒ 00:10:31.179 Brylle Girang: Okay, I think… thank you, thank you, Sam. I think I just want to make sure that you know how appreciative I am that you took really… really took time, like.
101 00:10:31.600 ⇒ 00:10:32.730 Brylle Girang: At this end.
102 00:10:32.960 ⇒ 00:10:38.399 Brylle Girang: I love that you were able to, like, make up your mind. I guess. My main thing is that
103 00:10:39.400 ⇒ 00:10:55.779 Brylle Girang: I want to see you succeed, whether it’s, you know, as an SL role, an IC role, a senior IC role. I think you’re a really great asset to the team, and I love that you’re not, like, tapping yourself into, like, this role for forever.
104 00:10:55.780 ⇒ 00:10:56.339 Samuel Roberts: For sure.
105 00:10:56.340 ⇒ 00:11:01.830 Brylle Girang: And I think… I think that’s… that’s clear on me, so what I understand is, right now, you’re really enjoying, like.
106 00:11:02.230 ⇒ 00:11:04.280 Brylle Girang: being a senior IAC,
107 00:11:04.460 ⇒ 00:11:14.350 Brylle Girang: you want to take more time into that role, and maybe in the future, once you’re ready, we can start discussing how we can wrap up again as an SFO.
108 00:11:14.610 ⇒ 00:11:15.120 Brylle Girang: But…
109 00:11:15.120 ⇒ 00:11:20.989 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s… yeah, I think that’s fair, and there’s certain things that I’m happy to maybe try to, you know, take off.
110 00:11:21.250 ⇒ 00:11:24.170 Samuel Roberts: of, you know, Utam’s plate earlier, maybe? I don’t know…
111 00:11:24.170 ⇒ 00:11:24.530 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
112 00:11:24.530 ⇒ 00:11:32.020 Samuel Roberts: where that line is exactly, because like I said, like, the architecting, the thinking, like, there’s certain things that I think come and kind of straddle that line, maybe.
113 00:11:32.020 ⇒ 00:11:32.430 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
114 00:11:32.430 ⇒ 00:11:36.470 Samuel Roberts: Even, even, like, playbook development, like, I have some thoughts, it’s just, like, I haven’t…
115 00:11:36.690 ⇒ 00:11:49.729 Samuel Roberts: You know, and I think also implementing the things is a good way to make sure that, like, okay, we’ve done a GCP deployment of Mastra, and I can… and I know how to do that, and I know where to point people to, and I know where to… and, like, you know, I feel…
116 00:11:49.860 ⇒ 00:11:53.169 Samuel Roberts: more comfortable that way. It’s… I think it’s…
117 00:11:53.300 ⇒ 00:11:57.459 Samuel Roberts: it’s not to say, like, some of those things aren’t things I still want to even…
118 00:11:57.460 ⇒ 00:11:58.020 Brylle Girang: Yuck.
119 00:11:58.140 ⇒ 00:12:07.239 Samuel Roberts: do, or take off the plate. I think it’s just… I do feel good when they get to execute and build, and that is a… that is a,
120 00:12:07.800 ⇒ 00:12:10.259 Samuel Roberts: Like, at energy… what’s the word?
121 00:12:10.790 ⇒ 00:12:13.279 Samuel Roberts: regenerative kind of thing for me.
122 00:12:14.970 ⇒ 00:12:19.520 Samuel Roberts: in a way that maybe I’m not used to, sort of, the more… like…
123 00:12:20.450 ⇒ 00:12:37.820 Samuel Roberts: not business side of things, but a little bit less of the, like, making something work, solving a problem that way. Which I think is a little bit of just framing, but it’s also just… I know at this point that I like it when I’m doing this, and if that’s what I need personally, I guess that’s, you know, I don’t want to, like, I don’t want to fight that too much, but I also want to
124 00:12:38.940 ⇒ 00:12:41.530 Samuel Roberts: grow, so it’s not like I’m, you know…
125 00:12:41.650 ⇒ 00:12:43.040 Samuel Roberts: Eliminating it that way, but yeah.
126 00:12:43.040 ⇒ 00:12:52.680 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, it’s funny, I just, I just read this news that Mark Zuckerberg is, like, back to coding, and it’s actually…
127 00:12:52.680 ⇒ 00:12:53.990 Samuel Roberts: I believe it, I believe it!
128 00:12:53.990 ⇒ 00:12:54.410 Brylle Girang: If it does.
129 00:12:54.410 ⇒ 00:12:57.580 Samuel Roberts: Different, you know, it’s one of those things,
130 00:12:57.710 ⇒ 00:13:12.509 Samuel Roberts: that, like, you get into it because you like it. Like, I was a mechanical engineer by, like, education, and so, like, there’s no necessarily path where I’m like, oh yeah, I want to stay coding because I’m a mechanical engineer, but I find it’s a lot of the same kind of…
131 00:13:12.880 ⇒ 00:13:19.069 Samuel Roberts: problem solving, except with a faster iteration cycle, if that makes sense. Yeah.
132 00:13:19.460 ⇒ 00:13:34.569 Samuel Roberts: And yeah, I mean, this is… I don’t… you know, it’s one of those things, like, yeah, I 100% believe that Mark Zuckerberg wants to be back in the code. He probably loves it, and I get that, and it’s like, you know, when you see that little green versus the red kind of thing, you’re like, oh, I did it, you know?
133 00:13:35.650 ⇒ 00:13:44.569 Samuel Roberts: And if that’s, you know, I don’t want to fight and be like, no, I can’t do that because it’s too comfortable or whatever. But at the same time, I do want to push myself, so it’s not like I’m…
134 00:13:44.880 ⇒ 00:13:48.259 Samuel Roberts: you know, I just don’t know when is the right time, you know?
135 00:13:48.530 ⇒ 00:13:49.660 Brylle Girang: Yeah, okay.
136 00:13:49.890 ⇒ 00:13:52.579 Brylle Girang: Yeah, this is cool, this is cool. So.
137 00:13:52.580 ⇒ 00:13:52.920 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
138 00:13:52.920 ⇒ 00:14:08.600 Brylle Girang: I’m going to share this. I think, Sam, I just want to make sure that, you know, we set your expectations properly. I don’t have, like, the full information right now, but based on our discussion, I’m guessing one thing that would… that would be brought up
139 00:14:08.600 ⇒ 00:14:16.430 Brylle Girang: Is, like, since your role is basically going to change a bit, what’s going to happen to your compensation, all those stuff.
140 00:14:16.510 ⇒ 00:14:28.839 Brylle Girang: again, this is, like, that’s just the thing that came up on my mind that’s going to be under Kayla and Utem’s discussion, but I want to make sure that you expect some kind of those discussions moving forward.
141 00:14:31.260 ⇒ 00:14:32.360 Samuel Roberts: Sure, yeah.
142 00:14:32.820 ⇒ 00:14:33.580 Brylle Girang: I think…
143 00:14:33.980 ⇒ 00:14:43.209 Brylle Girang: I’m really happy that you’re more energized now. I can also kind of feel that. I can also kind of see that.
144 00:14:43.210 ⇒ 00:14:50.240 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think it shows a little bit when I’m doing things. It’s one of those things that’s… you don’t always recognize it in yourself, but I feel like other people see it.
145 00:14:50.240 ⇒ 00:14:50.560 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
146 00:14:50.890 ⇒ 00:14:56.630 Samuel Roberts: And yeah, I think… Yeah, thank you. Yes, I appreciate you saying that, yeah.
147 00:14:56.630 ⇒ 00:15:03.880 Brylle Girang: Yeah, perfect. Yeah, so I’m going to be sharing this with them. I’m going to, you know, basically summarize what we have discussed here.
148 00:15:04.120 ⇒ 00:15:12.499 Brylle Girang: In the meantime, I’m pretty sure that you’ll… you’ll have, like, more time figuring out how AI can… can help the…
149 00:15:12.500 ⇒ 00:15:19.920 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, it’s… I mean, things are running right now in the background, it’s nuts, you know what I mean? Like, having multiple agents going, like, it’s a different world, but,
150 00:15:20.190 ⇒ 00:15:23.990 Samuel Roberts: you know, I… it’s, yeah, it’s fun. It’s been exciting, so…
151 00:15:23.990 ⇒ 00:15:24.340 Brylle Girang: Yay.
152 00:15:24.340 ⇒ 00:15:24.720 Samuel Roberts: I don’.
153 00:15:24.720 ⇒ 00:15:33.010 Brylle Girang: Speaking from an L&D side of things, I would love to see what you’re going to share with the team, like, the amazing things that you’re going to find out.
154 00:15:33.430 ⇒ 00:15:43.230 Samuel Roberts: We’ll see, we’ll see. I mean, like I said, everything… I feel like every day is, like, a new… or every week is, like, a new tool, a new framework, a new system. It’s, you know…
155 00:15:43.230 ⇒ 00:15:44.129 Brylle Girang: Yeah, it’s crazy.
156 00:15:44.130 ⇒ 00:15:46.309 Samuel Roberts: doing this, but it’s also… yeah, no, I hear you, I hear you.
157 00:15:46.310 ⇒ 00:15:53.029 Brylle Girang: It’s… it’s crazy, man. I just… I just saw, like, a tweet the other day about the smart glasses, where you can now run.
158 00:15:53.030 ⇒ 00:15:53.470 Samuel Roberts: Turned me.
159 00:15:53.470 ⇒ 00:15:53.820 Brylle Girang: mills.
160 00:15:54.280 ⇒ 00:15:55.810 Brylle Girang: Via voice control.
161 00:15:56.080 ⇒ 00:15:58.570 Brylle Girang: Oh my gosh, it’s crazy.
162 00:15:58.570 ⇒ 00:16:00.059 Samuel Roberts: Nuts, yeah. It’s nuts.
163 00:16:00.870 ⇒ 00:16:07.949 Brylle Girang: Okay, yeah, thank you, thank you, Sam, thank you for this talk, thank you for… thank you for persevering. I mean, let’s crush it.
164 00:16:08.680 ⇒ 00:16:22.779 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, definitely, definitely. And like I said, I think if there’s, you know, if we really want to put a plan together, you know, I mean, we didn’t really get into the details now. I think there are definitely, like, elements that I’m happy to, like, as, you know, senior ICB, you know, to take off.
165 00:16:22.950 ⇒ 00:16:24.540 Samuel Roberts: the SL’s plate.
166 00:16:24.950 ⇒ 00:16:27.420 Samuel Roberts: And then ramp back into other things, but…
167 00:16:27.530 ⇒ 00:16:30.699 Samuel Roberts: You know, I think there’s certain things that are more…
168 00:16:31.720 ⇒ 00:16:47.569 Samuel Roberts: initially in my wheelhouse that I’m happy to, like… like, you know, even just from the beginning, you know, when I kind of came on as, like, AI tech lead before we had SLs and CSOs, like, there was always kind of that element of, like, taking a step back and thinking holistically about stuff, and I still, you know, I want to be able to contribute.
169 00:16:47.850 ⇒ 00:16:50.239 Samuel Roberts: contribute in that way. Come on, man.
170 00:16:50.240 ⇒ 00:16:53.240 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, definitely. I’m going to, like.
171 00:16:53.770 ⇒ 00:17:00.850 Brylle Girang: punish Odom’s brain on that, like, he’s currently sitting in as the SL for AI, so I want to make sure that
172 00:17:00.950 ⇒ 00:17:04.700 Brylle Girang: He, he reaches out to you whenever he needs anything.
173 00:17:05.089 ⇒ 00:17:06.449 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, definitely, definitely.
174 00:17:06.800 ⇒ 00:17:08.939 Brylle Girang: Alright, cool, thank you. Fingers, Adam.
175 00:17:09.089 ⇒ 00:17:11.220 Samuel Roberts: Yes, thanks so much, V, I appreciate it.
176 00:17:11.510 ⇒ 00:17:12.030 Brylle Girang: Bye-bye.
177 00:17:12.030 ⇒ 00:17:13.450 Samuel Roberts: Thanks for the time. Bye.