Meeting Title: Eden Project Check-in Date: 2026-04-20 Meeting participants: Jasmin Multani, Greg Stoutenburg
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1 00:02:58.190 ⇒ 00:02:58.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Hmm.
2 00:02:59.650 ⇒ 00:03:00.690 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, Jasmine!
3 00:03:01.920 ⇒ 00:03:04.169 Jasmin Multani: Hey, Greg, how’s it going?
4 00:03:04.450 ⇒ 00:03:06.079 Greg Stoutenburg: Good, how are you? How’s your week so far?
5 00:03:07.330 ⇒ 00:03:08.950 Jasmin Multani: Good Monday so far.
6 00:03:08.950 ⇒ 00:03:09.770 Greg Stoutenburg: 4 hours in, or whatever.
7 00:03:09.770 ⇒ 00:03:10.760 Jasmin Multani: Huh?
8 00:03:11.640 ⇒ 00:03:17.109 Greg Stoutenburg: How’s your week so far? And then I realized, in Pacific time, your week is about 4 hours old.
9 00:03:17.580 ⇒ 00:03:20.230 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, exactly, exactly. Hard to say.
10 00:03:20.320 ⇒ 00:03:20.800 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
11 00:03:20.800 ⇒ 00:03:25.370 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah, I mean… At least yours is ending soon, so…
12 00:03:25.370 ⇒ 00:03:25.980 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
13 00:03:25.980 ⇒ 00:03:26.630 Jasmin Multani: fun.
14 00:03:26.630 ⇒ 00:03:39.799 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, supposedly. Yeah, it’s, catching up on a handful of things. Having some challenges with default, and yeah, gotta, gotta crush some stuff for Eden. So, today’s been a,
15 00:03:40.350 ⇒ 00:03:51.700 Greg Stoutenburg: the last, I don’t know, several work hours have been very much like, I guess, properly client success owner hours, like, managing the relationship with the client. And so, that’s… yeah.
16 00:03:51.930 ⇒ 00:03:54.649 Jasmin Multani: Props to you! Props to you!
17 00:03:54.650 ⇒ 00:03:56.979 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep. Fun stuff, so…
18 00:03:57.230 ⇒ 00:04:04.059 Jasmin Multani: Maybe on that end, that could be a good intro. So, how’s Eden doing? Like, what’s their most pressing concern?
19 00:04:04.420 ⇒ 00:04:11.819 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, honestly, this is largely a Robert question, because I think we… I think we talked about this late last week, right? Like…
20 00:04:12.040 ⇒ 00:04:21.060 Greg Stoutenburg: they agreed to some things, and then they change it right away, and then they change it again, and we’re figuring out… I think… I think Wednesday, Robert’s going to pitch them
21 00:04:21.149 ⇒ 00:04:39.690 Greg Stoutenburg: like, a third time for this quarter on the work streams that we’re doing. So, Eden is in a confusing spot. Of the things that are most relevant to me, Adam, the CEO, deleted a whole bunch of reports in Mixpanel, and, like, changed things in segment, and, so…
22 00:04:39.800 ⇒ 00:04:52.650 Greg Stoutenburg: Zoran and I are working to play catch-up here. A lot of stakeholders there are freaked out that things that they were relying on for, like, executive reporting are just gone. So, I’ve got an ask to…
23 00:04:53.230 ⇒ 00:05:08.989 Greg Stoutenburg: rebuild some things, and then… as well, we have to be moving forward on some things that, like, we’ve known are important, but, like, came up a long time ago, and then priorities went elsewhere, and so we just never did it. And so, you know, having to do some of that stuff now.
24 00:05:09.930 ⇒ 00:05:16.160 Jasmin Multani: Okay, cool, cool, cool. And those segments that were deleted, that just impacts Mixpanel, right? It’s not like it impacts?
25 00:05:16.410 ⇒ 00:05:18.970 Greg Stoutenburg: Sorry to clarify,
26 00:05:19.020 ⇒ 00:05:28.559 Greg Stoutenburg: Mixed panel reports were deleted, and changes made to segment. Segment, like Capital S, it’s a customer data platform, where…
27 00:05:28.560 ⇒ 00:05:42.549 Greg Stoutenburg: the way Eden’s data architecture is set up, tons of data flows into Segment, and then, is reorganized and things like that, and then pushed out to destinations, and just about everything that they have in Mixpanel is pushed into Mixpanel from Segment.
28 00:05:42.770 ⇒ 00:05:52.340 Greg Stoutenburg: So Adam making changes in segment directly affects what shows up, then, in Mixpanel, to the point where some of the things he did may have introduced breaking errors to.
29 00:05:52.340 ⇒ 00:05:52.720 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
30 00:05:52.720 ⇒ 00:05:56.600 Greg Stoutenburg: To exit… to reports that have managed to stick around.
31 00:05:56.600 ⇒ 00:06:02.970 Jasmin Multani: Yeah. Do you think this would also impact, is segment connected to Eden OS as well?
32 00:06:02.970 ⇒ 00:06:18.490 Greg Stoutenburg: Well, so one of the things that I’m working on right now is creating a tracking plan for Eden OS. Eden OS is really… I mean, like, as far as has been communicated with us, Eden OS is just the new intake form for Eden. It used to be that,
33 00:06:18.570 ⇒ 00:06:24.880 Greg Stoutenburg: It used to be that when you started on the intake funnel for Eden, at TryEden.com.
34 00:06:24.880 ⇒ 00:06:39.090 Greg Stoutenburg: the redirect would be app.treieden.com, but, it was hosted through, I believe, Basque. And so, but they… they were dissatisfied with it for various reasons, and so, made their own thing, and that’s what Eden OS is.
35 00:06:40.550 ⇒ 00:06:43.109 Jasmin Multani: So it’s just an intake form,
36 00:06:44.140 ⇒ 00:06:46.879 Jasmin Multani: And it’s connect… but it’s separate from Bask.
37 00:06:47.360 ⇒ 00:06:57.350 Greg Stoutenburg: Yes, that’s right. So BASC data is still always going to make its way to Omni, and to Segment, and to Mixpanel, because that’s their pharmacy.
38 00:06:58.780 ⇒ 00:07:01.979 Jasmin Multani: And so BASC is getting impacted by the segment changes.
39 00:07:01.980 ⇒ 00:07:11.169 Greg Stoutenburg: No, sorry. So, none of, none of what Adam did in segment should affect anything that’s in BASC.
40 00:07:11.650 ⇒ 00:07:14.979 Jasmin Multani: Okay, so at least, like, our underlying data.
41 00:07:14.980 ⇒ 00:07:15.660 Greg Stoutenburg: Yes.
42 00:07:15.660 ⇒ 00:07:17.979 Jasmin Multani: pushed through Omni, that should be fine.
43 00:07:17.980 ⇒ 00:07:29.490 Greg Stoutenburg: Omni’s good. Yep, Omni’s fine. Okay, cool. And that’s a message we’ve had to relay, actually, just in the last hour. So Ron was like, just to confirm, like, how are things with Omni? Omni’s fine. Omni’s not been affected at all.
44 00:07:29.940 ⇒ 00:07:42.149 Jasmin Multani: Okay. I think, okay, sounds good. I think in… in that case, like, I’ll cut some tickets for Amber, to QA and clean up, existing…
45 00:07:42.150 ⇒ 00:07:58.819 Jasmin Multani: Omni, OmniHub, to be like, okay, what’s actively being used, what isn’t being used, and should now be, like, away from people’s view. I think that also makes it confusing when, internal folks will, like, log in, and then they seem…
46 00:07:59.340 ⇒ 00:08:01.970 Jasmin Multani: Multiple dashboards with similar names, and they’re.
47 00:08:01.970 ⇒ 00:08:02.730 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
48 00:08:02.730 ⇒ 00:08:06.849 Jasmin Multani: they’re, figuring that out. So,
49 00:08:07.310 ⇒ 00:08:15.329 Jasmin Multani: Gonna QA that, very simple, and then we’re also gonna… start benchmarking.
50 00:08:15.440 ⇒ 00:08:25.019 Jasmin Multani: what the expected values should be, so that, when OH, does those migration, migration changes in chunks.
51 00:08:25.230 ⇒ 00:08:28.980 Jasmin Multani: We can do a clear pre- and post-test to say, hey.
52 00:08:29.690 ⇒ 00:08:38.500 Jasmin Multani: this number dropped, why did it drop from pre and post, like, what was the root cause? Do we need to, like, go back? So, it’s that to…
53 00:08:39.870 ⇒ 00:08:43.349 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, so that’s more to, like, support EDOS.
54 00:08:43.350 ⇒ 00:08:43.960 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
55 00:08:44.770 ⇒ 00:08:45.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
56 00:08:46.080 ⇒ 00:08:53.060 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, and I know that you guys were making an Eden tracker, you mentioned. What would that be tracking?
57 00:08:53.520 ⇒ 00:09:13.180 Greg Stoutenburg: So the tracking plan… a tracking plan for product analytics is, basically… it’s a piece of documentation, really, is what it is. Like, it just says, here are the names of the events that we’re tracking, here are the properties of those events, and then engineers need to use that as a guide for, creating events and sending them into
58 00:09:13.180 ⇒ 00:09:24.169 Greg Stoutenburg: whatever system. So, I’m working on a tracking plan for Eden OS, meaning I’m doing the documentation piece, and then working with the engineering team at Eden to actually get that implemented for Eden OS.
59 00:09:25.410 ⇒ 00:09:32.900 Greg Stoutenburg: But to clarify, the scope of that, like, the scope of that ask has just been the tracking plan for Eden OS. It’s not like…
60 00:09:33.400 ⇒ 00:09:39.249 Greg Stoutenburg: all product analytics for all of Eden, although it looks like that’s… that scope might be headed my way.
61 00:09:41.040 ⇒ 00:09:50.779 Jasmin Multani: That was good. So the event tracking that you’re creating, it’s just what exists today, right? It’s not, like, a wish list that you’re creating.
62 00:09:51.080 ⇒ 00:09:58.670 Greg Stoutenburg: Well, it’s more the second, it really is a wish list. So, let me see if I… I know it’s one of these tabs,
63 00:10:03.360 ⇒ 00:10:08.510 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, here, check it out. So… Here’s the state.
64 00:10:08.690 ⇒ 00:10:10.250 Greg Stoutenburg: That it’s in right now.
65 00:10:11.120 ⇒ 00:10:18.010 Greg Stoutenburg: So, like, that’s doing things like, alright, at the beginning of an intake, name the event intake started. What does that mean?
66 00:10:18.280 ⇒ 00:10:20.399 Greg Stoutenburg: When exactly should it fire?
67 00:10:20.570 ⇒ 00:10:34.289 Greg Stoutenburg: what properties are carried through when it fires. How important is… is it when… because, you know, then down here is, like, engineers have to do this. How… in what order should these be created?
68 00:10:34.510 ⇒ 00:10:47.070 Greg Stoutenburg: It’s… it’s… it’s that stuff. So, I’ve done this, I’ve done the event properties, I need to do the user properties next, and make sure their engineers are pushing on it. I feel like this… I actually feel like this part should have been done already.
69 00:10:47.320 ⇒ 00:10:49.890 Greg Stoutenburg: And the last thing I can see…
70 00:10:50.360 ⇒ 00:10:54.330 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool. Alright, production, oh, but then it’s saying, by default, captures it. That’s not…
71 00:10:54.730 ⇒ 00:10:59.089 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s not good enough. You know, so then we’ve got, you know, in progress.
72 00:10:59.090 ⇒ 00:11:00.999 Jasmin Multani: Yeah. So, this needs to get done.
73 00:11:01.000 ⇒ 00:11:03.649 Greg Stoutenburg: Soon. But, anyway, that’s what that is.
74 00:11:03.850 ⇒ 00:11:05.169 Jasmin Multani: Okay, okay, okay.
75 00:11:05.820 ⇒ 00:11:06.880 Jasmin Multani: Cool
76 00:11:07.260 ⇒ 00:11:22.080 Jasmin Multani: I guess that’s… that’s it for now, for me on Eden. I needed to QA those dashboards, but I feel like last week’s meeting, where we all sat down and talked about what we need from each other, that definitely helps me. Yeah, good.
77 00:11:22.400 ⇒ 00:11:26.549 Jasmin Multani: I feel like the lift should be easy for Eden, it’s just a lot of it.
78 00:11:26.550 ⇒ 00:11:27.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
79 00:11:27.580 ⇒ 00:11:36.919 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I think, like, yeah, just… I think for Eden, their stakeholders, like, if they don’t immediately understand… this is just, I don’t know, have you talked to people there much?
80 00:11:37.910 ⇒ 00:11:40.410 Greg Stoutenburg: If they don’t understand something right away, they think it’s broken.
81 00:11:40.750 ⇒ 00:11:41.160 Jasmin Multani: Hmm.
82 00:11:41.160 ⇒ 00:11:52.969 Greg Stoutenburg: And this is just, like, like, I mean, Robert will share the sentiments, Zoran will share the sentiment. Like, so I think for them, the more self-serviceable those dashboards look, the happier they’re gonna be.
83 00:11:53.060 ⇒ 00:12:05.729 Greg Stoutenburg: they initially raised a bunch of concerns about data accuracy and things like that with Omni, but, like, we just created… we just recreated their Tableau dashboards. It was the same data, and in almost every case, it even looked the same.
84 00:12:05.730 ⇒ 00:12:23.319 Greg Stoutenburg: So, like, but they themselves didn’t realize that they were, in many cases, making these net new asks for additional documentation or visualizations, things like that. It’s fine to do that, but this just goes to the point of, you know, the QA really is more about… I mean, this is my take, right? The QA should really be more about,
85 00:12:23.590 ⇒ 00:12:39.360 Greg Stoutenburg: someone who cares about this kind of data opens it for the first time, what should their experience be like? You know, more like from that angle than, like, does this reflect what’s in BigQuery? Yes, it does reflect what’s in BigQuery, you know? So… yeah, that’s how I would think about that.
86 00:12:39.810 ⇒ 00:12:48.220 Jasmin Multani: Okay, okay, okay, so it really is tracking end-user experience. In that case, like, I’ll probably lean on, like, Zoran, because I don’t think…
87 00:12:48.690 ⇒ 00:12:51.899 Jasmin Multani: Robert wants to introduce a new…
88 00:12:52.110 ⇒ 00:13:03.189 Jasmin Multani: Brainforge person to eat in, so if I want to, like, try to backtrack from end user, I’ll be leaning on people who actually met with them. Yeah.
89 00:13:03.790 ⇒ 00:13:07.320 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, or maybe even, I mean, maybe Amber could do it, or…
90 00:13:07.320 ⇒ 00:13:07.820 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
91 00:13:07.820 ⇒ 00:13:21.569 Greg Stoutenburg: Some hours could be set aside for me to do it. I mean, the idea had been that, like, the stuff I’d been doing for Omni is headed to you, because my… the project for me was just, get Omni stood up. It stood up.
92 00:13:21.860 ⇒ 00:13:22.470 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
93 00:13:22.470 ⇒ 00:13:24.190 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
94 00:13:24.370 ⇒ 00:13:39.469 Jasmin Multani: Okay, sounds good, sounds good. So I’ll probably lean on Amber, just to be, like, I think we just… I just need to understand, like, what is commonly used, and what isn’t, and, like, I don’t think click… like…
95 00:13:40.680 ⇒ 00:13:52.440 Jasmin Multani: profile views or dashboard views is a good estimate, because people could just be clicking through and realizing, oh, this is not the dashboard I want. Right. So,
96 00:13:53.180 ⇒ 00:14:06.489 Jasmin Multani: So I think that’s just, like, more of a noisy metric. But what I can also include is, like, of these dashboards, which dashboard… give me a list of dashboards that,
97 00:14:06.830 ⇒ 00:14:09.400 Jasmin Multani: Blobby actively answers questions on.
98 00:14:09.400 ⇒ 00:14:10.270 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
99 00:14:10.270 ⇒ 00:14:12.879 Jasmin Multani: That could just be, like, the easy first pass.
100 00:14:13.350 ⇒ 00:14:13.700 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
101 00:14:13.700 ⇒ 00:14:14.410 Jasmin Multani: Okay, cool.
102 00:14:14.410 ⇒ 00:14:15.270 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, that makes sense.
103 00:14:15.270 ⇒ 00:14:20.309 Jasmin Multani: So, I will… I feel like I’ll make more pushes on Eden there.
104 00:14:20.650 ⇒ 00:14:27.190 Jasmin Multani: And then Element, I just wanted to make sure, like, if I’m reading… I just feel like…
105 00:14:27.310 ⇒ 00:14:29.259 Jasmin Multani: Changes have been made.
106 00:14:29.650 ⇒ 00:14:37.760 Jasmin Multani: And our milestone tracker might be outdated, so I wanted to make the next 15 minutes, like, a working session of what.
107 00:14:37.760 ⇒ 00:14:38.380 Greg Stoutenburg: Sure.
108 00:14:38.380 ⇒ 00:14:39.720 Jasmin Multani: is happening. Yeah.
109 00:14:40.770 ⇒ 00:14:42.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep. So…
110 00:14:43.290 ⇒ 00:14:52.780 Greg Stoutenburg: I guess, yeah, just like, big picture, the way that I think about this is we’re in kind of a confusing spot, because Shivani is saying, don’t use pilot language anymore, I’m the only decision maker.
111 00:14:52.930 ⇒ 00:15:10.339 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. But she’s also not signed a contract with Omni. So, we’re in this funny spot where… well, she hasn’t refused to either, but she did say, like, I don’t want to do that yet. And also they have their, you know, rest and recharge
112 00:15:10.710 ⇒ 00:15:15.649 Greg Stoutenburg: week, I can’t remember what it’s called. Their R&R week coming up, I think next week. So…
113 00:15:15.800 ⇒ 00:15:16.939 Greg Stoutenburg: She’s gonna talk…
114 00:15:16.940 ⇒ 00:15:19.809 Jasmin Multani: Also, her wedding’s at the end of the month.
115 00:15:20.390 ⇒ 00:15:23.330 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, well, that’s probably why she’s like, I don’t want to take on anything new.
116 00:15:23.420 ⇒ 00:15:32.349 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, her wedding is literally end of May. She’s gone for 2 weeks, so end of… last week of May, first week of June, she’s gone.
117 00:15:32.600 ⇒ 00:15:44.580 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, okay. Well, she said she would talk to sales, like, the first week of May. So, I think that call will be Shivani, Max, and…
118 00:15:44.740 ⇒ 00:15:45.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Me?
119 00:15:46.020 ⇒ 00:15:47.010 Greg Stoutenburg: Maybe?
120 00:15:47.140 ⇒ 00:15:48.230 Greg Stoutenburg: Something like that?
121 00:15:48.950 ⇒ 00:15:53.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Let me see if it’s on the calendar.
122 00:16:01.180 ⇒ 00:16:02.400 Greg Stoutenburg: No, I don’t see it.
123 00:16:02.810 ⇒ 00:16:05.809 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, so, anyway.
124 00:16:06.110 ⇒ 00:16:15.509 Greg Stoutenburg: Anyway, so we’re in this sort of funny spot, like, it’s fine to not call it a pilot phase anymore, but then… then I think where we go is,
125 00:16:16.090 ⇒ 00:16:24.760 Greg Stoutenburg: we just revert to the rest of the Element Omniaccelerator, which defines what our build process would be
126 00:16:25.390 ⇒ 00:16:30.810 Greg Stoutenburg: past the pilot. So… that would mean…
127 00:16:31.640 ⇒ 00:16:32.900 Jasmin Multani: fixation.
128 00:16:33.730 ⇒ 00:16:35.900 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I’ll share it. I’ll share my screen.
129 00:16:36.770 ⇒ 00:16:39.849 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. So, there’s the Omniaccelerator.
130 00:16:40.390 ⇒ 00:16:53.980 Greg Stoutenburg: This is what we’ve been taking as source of truth, and this is why, when I would say things like, hey, they’re saying this is going to be done in, like, May, or like, you know, the new milestones that she put up on that… on the data platform documentation, I’m like, hey, that doesn’t align with what I’ve been following. What I’ve been following.
131 00:16:53.980 ⇒ 00:16:54.330 Jasmin Multani: Yeah.
132 00:16:54.330 ⇒ 00:16:59.720 Greg Stoutenburg: This timeline, and taking this timeline to go
133 00:16:59.830 ⇒ 00:17:05.630 Greg Stoutenburg: you know, that’s… that’s this part here. And going… Alright.
134 00:17:05.910 ⇒ 00:17:14.679 Greg Stoutenburg: Take the first time I talked to her about Omni that Wednesday to be week 1. If you do that, and then you count, the pilot ends this week. It ends Friday.
135 00:17:15.780 ⇒ 00:17:17.000 Jasmin Multani: Hmm…
136 00:17:17.440 ⇒ 00:17:19.259 Greg Stoutenburg: That gets us the end of the 6 weeks.
137 00:17:21.130 ⇒ 00:17:28.850 Greg Stoutenburg: So, what I would say then is, if we don’t care about that anymore, which is fine, then…
138 00:17:29.000 ⇒ 00:17:32.429 Greg Stoutenburg: I say we just, from right now, go, okay.
139 00:17:32.540 ⇒ 00:17:35.599 Greg Stoutenburg: what linear needs to show is that…
140 00:17:35.700 ⇒ 00:17:41.989 Greg Stoutenburg: What I would do is milestones for just each… additional topic area.
141 00:17:42.200 ⇒ 00:17:44.709 Greg Stoutenburg: So that’s gonna be, like, e-commerce…
142 00:17:44.890 ⇒ 00:18:02.830 Greg Stoutenburg: well, I don’t know, you might start by just finishing wholesale and retail, because in the dashboard spec, you know, the pilot says one to two dashboards per topic. We’ve done that, but there are still other dashboards for retail and wholesale that haven’t been built. So we could go milestone one, complete retail and wholesale.
143 00:18:03.300 ⇒ 00:18:09.119 Greg Stoutenburg: And then from there, go… the rest of the milestones are,
144 00:18:10.150 ⇒ 00:18:13.079 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, just the rest of the topics that they want to cover.
145 00:18:15.830 ⇒ 00:18:17.180 Greg Stoutenburg: And those are…
146 00:18:17.810 ⇒ 00:18:22.729 Greg Stoutenburg: I don’t know if those are all listed, this might be… yeah, so we need revenue and reconciliation.
147 00:18:23.550 ⇒ 00:18:26.660 Jasmin Multani: And we still need that, right? Revenue reconciliation?
148 00:18:27.370 ⇒ 00:18:35.139 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m glad you asked that. I caught myself reading rather than thinking. Yeah, we…
149 00:18:36.300 ⇒ 00:18:47.340 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m gonna say this… I’m gonna cautiously say no, but just, like, verify with Amber, because, you know, we were doing that thing where we were trying to reconcile what’s in QuickBooks with what’s,
150 00:18:47.690 ⇒ 00:18:53.979 Greg Stoutenburg: In Snowflake, but I think now we’re in good shape there. Yeah, reconciliation today’s manual. Yeah, that’s not true anymore.
151 00:18:54.890 ⇒ 00:18:59.959 Jasmin Multani: I feel like right now, reconciliation is between the spreadsheets that they use.
152 00:19:00.150 ⇒ 00:19:00.790 Greg Stoutenburg: No.
153 00:19:00.790 ⇒ 00:19:05.280 Jasmin Multani: and Omni Dashboard, so maybe we can re-scope this? Should we re-scope?
154 00:19:05.280 ⇒ 00:19:12.259 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, I mean, maybe just some additional scoping on, like, what other reporting do they want to see now that they’ve made this decision? But, like.
155 00:19:12.500 ⇒ 00:19:18.560 Greg Stoutenburg: For what this, yeah, I mean, what this lays out is it’s…
156 00:19:18.800 ⇒ 00:19:21.009 Greg Stoutenburg: It’s just the initial ones that they want built.
157 00:19:21.360 ⇒ 00:19:23.370 Greg Stoutenburg: So… yeah.
158 00:19:28.530 ⇒ 00:19:29.380 Greg Stoutenburg: Yes.
159 00:19:29.380 ⇒ 00:19:35.710 Jasmin Multani: Commerce is blocked because of… some issue with Amazon, right?
160 00:19:36.800 ⇒ 00:19:42.180 Greg Stoutenburg: Is that right? I might… I might have been unaware of it.
161 00:19:43.920 ⇒ 00:19:45.889 Greg Stoutenburg: Can you… can you point to that?
162 00:19:46.130 ⇒ 00:19:48.960 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, let me… I think it was in the deck…
163 00:19:52.550 ⇒ 00:19:56.420 Jasmin Multani: Last week that we discussed risks, modeling.
164 00:20:01.740 ⇒ 00:20:16.970 Jasmin Multani: Okay… yeah, Amazon plus Walmart historical data blocked by API rate limits. Supports emails pending element action. Amazon ingestion sync in progress. Amazon model build in progress.
165 00:20:22.380 ⇒ 00:20:32.119 Jasmin Multani: So that’s why we haven’t really kicked off dashboards for e-commerce, because I don’t really know where we stand. But I guess, like, in the meeting today,
166 00:20:32.430 ⇒ 00:20:48.890 Jasmin Multani: what, I’ll ask Alwaysh is, hey, can we… is there any additional information you need from us in terms of spec, what the dashboard should look like? Or, like, what do you mean by, like, modeling in progress?
167 00:20:49.130 ⇒ 00:20:52.899 Jasmin Multani: Yeah. So, because, like, that’ll also give me a clarity as to, like.
168 00:20:53.650 ⇒ 00:21:05.570 Jasmin Multani: what can I design with Shivani? Because I think with Shivani, I’m just gonna… instead… I don’t think she reads the spec docs at all. I think she,
169 00:21:05.830 ⇒ 00:21:10.730 Jasmin Multani: What we have to do is, like, literally be, like, put the question at the top.
170 00:21:11.080 ⇒ 00:21:13.969 Jasmin Multani: For, like, the… like, a revamp of the.
171 00:21:13.970 ⇒ 00:21:14.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
172 00:21:14.620 ⇒ 00:21:16.710 Jasmin Multani: the new specs that we’re gonna do, it’s like… Yeah.
173 00:21:16.970 ⇒ 00:21:23.519 Jasmin Multani: put the question at the top, be like, Shivani, let’s draw out bar charts together, literally.
174 00:21:23.520 ⇒ 00:21:23.980 Greg Stoutenburg: I agree.
175 00:21:23.980 ⇒ 00:21:33.869 Jasmin Multani: paper, and then, let’s draw out a mock-up of a table. So with the… Rows and the columns.
176 00:21:34.230 ⇒ 00:21:38.969 Jasmin Multani: And be like, okay, this table’s supposed to reflect this
177 00:21:39.170 ⇒ 00:21:58.519 Jasmin Multani: bar chart, and then, that way, we can also backtrack to be like, okay, of the… of this wish list, what do we… which topics do we have right now? How is the metric set right now? And then go to OH for any net new builds. Yeah. I have a feeling that’s how we should do it.
178 00:21:59.110 ⇒ 00:21:59.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
179 00:21:59.990 ⇒ 00:22:01.960 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep, I’d support that plan.
180 00:22:02.210 ⇒ 00:22:03.999 Jasmin Multani: I don’t think she’s reading the docs at all.
181 00:22:04.000 ⇒ 00:22:04.640 Greg Stoutenburg: No, no.
182 00:22:04.640 ⇒ 00:22:06.439 Jasmin Multani: made it very, very clearly.
183 00:22:06.440 ⇒ 00:22:06.830 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
184 00:22:06.830 ⇒ 00:22:08.840 Jasmin Multani: Go to this section.
185 00:22:08.840 ⇒ 00:22:19.929 Greg Stoutenburg: I think we made it too clear, and I think, like… so she… she… you have to, like, tell her what level to engage with a document at, and I think, first, it was, like…
186 00:22:20.270 ⇒ 00:22:22.500 Greg Stoutenburg: She just got straight into the weeds.
187 00:22:22.870 ⇒ 00:22:34.900 Greg Stoutenburg: And then we said, you know, don’t get too far into the weeds. Then she’s like, oh, well, in general, yeah, these all look good, and it doesn’t need to read, you know, 20 pages or whatever. So I think if I were to… if I were to just redo all that, knowing…
188 00:22:34.900 ⇒ 00:22:45.610 Greg Stoutenburg: her… the way that she thinks a little bit better, I would probably do, like, one page per topic, and it’s like, there will be a retail, you know, there will be a target dashboard
189 00:22:45.630 ⇒ 00:23:05.129 Greg Stoutenburg: that gives you, and it just says what it’ll do, and then that’s it. And we go, anything else missing? But I think, you know, asking her to, like, jam with you on a design framework, that might… that might even get to it quicker, since she’s basically told us she thinks about this visually before she thinks about it from a data angle.
190 00:23:05.390 ⇒ 00:23:07.200 Jasmin Multani: And there’s some things that I’ve…
191 00:23:07.760 ⇒ 00:23:10.570 Jasmin Multani: pushed through in the dashboard that I’ve…
192 00:23:10.690 ⇒ 00:23:27.220 Jasmin Multani: I… I know that they’re gonna look at these metrics and these cuts down the line, but, and I’m very sure the VPs are gonna care about it. Yeah. But, she’s asked us to cut those, and she’s like, I don’t see how this is relevant, and I’m like, it’s gonna be relevant.
193 00:23:27.220 ⇒ 00:23:40.289 Greg Stoutenburg: It’ll be relevant. But, you know, I mean, what we can do for now, if that’s her intuition on this, is we can just… we haven’t thought of it that way, but this might be just, like, a special lever we can start activating in Omni. We can train up Blobby
194 00:23:40.290 ⇒ 00:24:04.460 Greg Stoutenburg: And make sure that topics include all that information, even if our dashboards don’t. So, then what we can do is go, alright, well, maybe we won’t put all this in the dashboard, because then you get an overwhelming dashboard, just cognitive overload. What we can do instead is make sure that if someone wants to get all those cuts, they’re sort of pre-built behind the scenes. So, you know, your new VP of retail can go, give me same-day last week data for all this.
195 00:24:04.630 ⇒ 00:24:10.749 Greg Stoutenburg: And we’ve already teed that up, and then, you know, basically we just spit out a new chart.
196 00:24:11.700 ⇒ 00:24:13.630 Jasmin Multani: Okay, yeah, that’d be good, that’d be good.
197 00:24:14.180 ⇒ 00:24:15.579 Greg Stoutenburg: I bet we know how to do that.
198 00:24:15.820 ⇒ 00:24:24.079 Jasmin Multani: Okay, sweet. Yeah, I just want him to finish out the dashboards that we have this week, because I know that the supply chain dashboards are going to be really hectic.
199 00:24:24.080 ⇒ 00:24:24.490 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
200 00:24:24.490 ⇒ 00:24:28.660 Jasmin Multani: So I’m trying to clear out these initial three as best as we can.
201 00:24:28.660 ⇒ 00:24:28.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
202 00:24:28.990 ⇒ 00:24:35.619 Jasmin Multani: And then, while Advith is working on that, I’m doing the scoping for supply chain, with Robert and Siobhan.
203 00:24:35.620 ⇒ 00:24:36.390 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
204 00:24:36.390 ⇒ 00:24:37.799 Jasmin Multani: I’m just doing, like, the…
205 00:24:37.970 ⇒ 00:24:55.939 Jasmin Multani: doing, like, a… what’s the journey of a drink? What’s… what… how does it get billed? Who… who puts their hands on it, da-da-da-da. Yeah. Clean that up, and be like, that’ll be the basis of the specs, to be like, okay, how much of the view, of this total journey, what view do you want?
206 00:24:56.640 ⇒ 00:24:57.310 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
207 00:24:57.310 ⇒ 00:25:02.789 Jasmin Multani: And ask their team to do that, and then from there, build the dashboard specs and stuff.
208 00:25:03.190 ⇒ 00:25:09.580 Jasmin Multani: So, I’m doing, like, the baseline for supply right now, but I’m letting…
209 00:25:09.760 ⇒ 00:25:22.060 Jasmin Multani: I’m letting, Advith and Awash finish out what we have, so that by the time they’re done with the dashboards, we hit the ground running. But, yeah, just FYI.
210 00:25:22.170 ⇒ 00:25:27.529 Jasmin Multani: that May 22nd milestone, I think that’s… that’s when she’s got out of office.
211 00:25:27.530 ⇒ 00:25:29.159 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, maybe that’s why she wants it by then.
212 00:25:29.160 ⇒ 00:25:31.749 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah, so May 22nd is, like.
213 00:25:31.750 ⇒ 00:25:32.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
214 00:25:32.630 ⇒ 00:25:36.220 Jasmin Multani: upper limit of any changes, and then she’s gone.
215 00:25:36.770 ⇒ 00:25:38.339 Jasmin Multani: second week of June.
216 00:25:38.660 ⇒ 00:25:40.130 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. Okay.
217 00:25:40.350 ⇒ 00:25:54.389 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Alright, cool. Well, yeah, I’m fine with your direction on how you want to, reorganize the milestones and assign this stuff. I think this idea of doing dashboard specs this way makes a lot of sense, so… yeah, I’m on board. And then, I guess,
218 00:25:54.950 ⇒ 00:25:58.170 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, yeah, I don’t know, I suppose at some point Robert will tell me…
219 00:25:58.330 ⇒ 00:26:11.540 Greg Stoutenburg: you know, what’s my… what’s my job on Element? If it’s to continue with any Omni stuff, or, you know, and just see that through. I mean, as far as I can tell, I might just be basically done with Element. Yeah. I don’t know, I’ll… I’ll ask him next time I talk to him.
220 00:26:11.540 ⇒ 00:26:25.509 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah, I don’t know either. I’m just like, what dashboards? Every single hour, I’m like, I see the Slack, and I’m like, oh, great, the SKUs are not being accounted for. Okay, one more net new thing. Great.
221 00:26:25.510 ⇒ 00:26:33.499 Greg Stoutenburg: added to the list, but hey, you know, they’ve got… So, when they raise things like that, I think we can just manage expectation, like, yeah, thanks for calling it, we’ll work on it.
222 00:26:34.000 ⇒ 00:26:36.600 Greg Stoutenburg: They’re saying they don’t even need to share this until the fall.
223 00:26:36.750 ⇒ 00:26:41.609 Greg Stoutenburg: there’s not a rush, you know? I want to do a good job and keep moving, but it’s not a rush.
224 00:26:41.610 ⇒ 00:26:48.609 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, yeah. Maybe I can separate… cut those tickets, but then label that as, like, hey, if someone has time.
225 00:26:49.190 ⇒ 00:26:50.000 Jasmin Multani: do.
226 00:26:50.000 ⇒ 00:26:50.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
227 00:26:50.620 ⇒ 00:26:53.280 Jasmin Multani: Any, any, it’s up for grabs for anyone.
228 00:26:53.280 ⇒ 00:26:53.870 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
229 00:26:54.330 ⇒ 00:26:54.840 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
230 00:26:54.840 ⇒ 00:26:55.640 Jasmin Multani: Yep.
231 00:26:56.040 ⇒ 00:27:10.990 Jasmin Multani: Okay, sounds good. I think I’ll re-scope it according to dashboard function, dashboard type. Okay. But I’ll keep the pilot phase out as is, and then we can do the expansion part.
232 00:27:11.190 ⇒ 00:27:11.770 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
233 00:27:12.080 ⇒ 00:27:21.839 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, and then there are other things, other projects that are happening, supposedly, like, The strategy analytics recommendations?
234 00:27:22.430 ⇒ 00:27:25.160 Jasmin Multani: I… do you know anything about that?
235 00:27:25.160 ⇒ 00:27:26.140 Greg Stoutenburg: Can you show it to me?
236 00:27:27.680 ⇒ 00:27:30.809 Greg Stoutenburg: If it’s for Element, this does not sound familiar right away.
237 00:27:42.770 ⇒ 00:27:45.630 Jasmin Multani: Yeah, strategic analysis and recommendations.
238 00:27:47.390 ⇒ 00:27:49.160 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, is that in the accelerator?
239 00:27:50.200 ⇒ 00:27:54.090 Jasmin Multani: I don’t think so. I think this is, like, something we do along the way.
240 00:27:54.650 ⇒ 00:27:57.949 Jasmin Multani: Q2 Business Review, I see Utham created this.
241 00:27:58.810 ⇒ 00:28:03.909 Jasmin Multani: But I wanna see, like, how… is this a matter of, like…
242 00:28:03.910 ⇒ 00:28:04.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
243 00:28:06.450 ⇒ 00:28:12.529 Jasmin Multani: something we do along the way, when we see it, like, we just have to be aware of it? Or are there…
244 00:28:12.530 ⇒ 00:28:13.310 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m not sure.
245 00:28:14.840 ⇒ 00:28:21.930 Jasmin Multani: documentation… Ugh, yeah.
246 00:28:23.730 ⇒ 00:28:34.859 Jasmin Multani: Basically, I’m gonna finish out the QAing for Shivani’s cut, this week, ideally this week, and then, off to the side, also stress test blobby next week.
247 00:28:37.260 ⇒ 00:28:37.860 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
248 00:28:38.370 ⇒ 00:28:41.099 Jasmin Multani: But I’m also gonna ask Envy, like, how much…
249 00:28:41.630 ⇒ 00:28:46.880 Jasmin Multani: like, is it realistic to do one dashboard per day? Because she’s asking for one more net new dashboard.
250 00:28:47.230 ⇒ 00:28:47.980 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
251 00:28:48.220 ⇒ 00:28:50.220 Jasmin Multani: For wholesale and retail each.
252 00:28:51.310 ⇒ 00:28:53.849 Jasmin Multani: So, I wanted to ask Robert and what the, like.
253 00:28:54.200 ⇒ 00:28:58.639 Jasmin Multani: Is this actually within scope, or can we just, like, go through with what we have?
254 00:29:00.540 ⇒ 00:29:00.860 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
255 00:29:01.320 ⇒ 00:29:03.760 Jasmin Multani: Let’s hop to the next meeting.
256 00:29:03.970 ⇒ 00:29:06.430 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, yep, sounds good. Alright, thanks. Bye.