Meeting Title: Brainforge Work Project Review Planning Date: 2026-04-15 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Miranda Wen
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1 00:03:16.620 ⇒ 00:03:18.610 Miranda Wen: Hi, V, how are you doing?
2 00:03:18.610 ⇒ 00:03:21.240 Brylle Girang: Hello! Good! How are you doing?
3 00:03:21.600 ⇒ 00:03:23.569 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I’m doing great too, yeah.
4 00:03:24.400 ⇒ 00:03:29.139 Brylle Girang: Thank you. Sorry I missed the earlier schedule, but I’m more than happy to…
5 00:03:30.110 ⇒ 00:03:31.930 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, no worries, no worries.
6 00:03:31.930 ⇒ 00:03:32.520 Brylle Girang: P.
7 00:03:34.330 ⇒ 00:03:41.489 Miranda Wen: So yeah, maybe, maybe I will share the, the screen, yeah.
8 00:03:42.520 ⇒ 00:03:43.490 Brylle Girang: Okay, sure.
9 00:03:56.960 ⇒ 00:03:57.870 Brylle Girang: Okay.
10 00:03:59.180 ⇒ 00:04:01.299 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I added some, like,
11 00:04:02.390 ⇒ 00:04:10.679 Miranda Wen: Not the most aesthetic way right now, but I added some, like, visuals for, like, the pages right now, what it looks like.
12 00:04:11.370 ⇒ 00:04:12.090 Miranda Wen: Yeah.
13 00:04:13.900 ⇒ 00:04:14.220 Brylle Girang: Okay.
14 00:04:14.220 ⇒ 00:04:16.559 Miranda Wen: Yeah, if that’s what you’re referring.
15 00:04:16.720 ⇒ 00:04:24.080 Brylle Girang: Yeah, okay, gotcha. Miranda, will you schedule, like, another project review with all the stakeholders for this?
16 00:04:27.160 ⇒ 00:04:39.040 Miranda Wen: I’m not sure… I think from Wooden, what I understand, it’s, like, more getting, like, sign-off from everyone individually. Okay. For the feedback I collected from each person, yeah.
17 00:04:39.330 ⇒ 00:04:40.520 Brylle Girang: Okay, gotcha.
18 00:04:41.170 ⇒ 00:04:49.280 Brylle Girang: Maybe if I’m going to give an advice, I would say that another project review might be the best way to go about this.
19 00:04:49.410 ⇒ 00:04:52.939 Brylle Girang: Because, one, I do believe that, you know, Riku and Pranav
20 00:04:53.310 ⇒ 00:04:57.460 Brylle Girang: as well as Utam, are really busy right now, and.
21 00:04:57.460 ⇒ 00:04:57.890 Miranda Wen: Okay.
22 00:04:57.890 ⇒ 00:05:09.019 Brylle Girang: Expecting for them to asynchronously review this might be too much, and they might not… they might not be able to give you, like, the feedback and the quality feedback that you need to.
23 00:05:09.660 ⇒ 00:05:10.760 Brylle Girang: towards this.
24 00:05:11.030 ⇒ 00:05:16.840 Brylle Girang: Yeah. A synchronous project meeting, you know, can give us at least focused time.
25 00:05:17.020 ⇒ 00:05:28.640 Brylle Girang: to actually look at this, and also give you to… give you the chance to, better demonstrate, like, what the improvements were from the previous project review.
26 00:05:29.330 ⇒ 00:05:35.859 Brylle Girang: Overall, I think that this is a really important project for us to only talk about via Slack.
27 00:05:37.410 ⇒ 00:05:42.710 Miranda Wen: Yeah Okay, cool, yeah.
28 00:05:43.160 ⇒ 00:05:53.710 Brylle Girang: But, you know, I mean, that’s my take, that’s my… that’s… that’s what I think about this, but it’s up to your decision, whatever you think would be best.
29 00:05:54.040 ⇒ 00:05:56.870 Brylle Girang: But I think from an L&D side.
30 00:05:57.250 ⇒ 00:06:00.060 Brylle Girang: I think that’s where I want this to go.
31 00:06:01.630 ⇒ 00:06:11.579 Brylle Girang: Because, me personally, I haven’t tried out the OpenWork platform, because I wanted to see, like, from a person with a blank slate.
32 00:06:12.090 ⇒ 00:06:24.149 Brylle Girang: will… will I be… will I be encouraged enough to… to get out of cursor and try this out in its beta phase? Like, I’m trying to get my mind to sort. I’m trying to be in the shoes of
33 00:06:24.270 ⇒ 00:06:30.339 Brylle Girang: Maybe a new hire, or maybe in the shoes of someone who doesn’t want to get out of a tool.
34 00:06:30.650 ⇒ 00:06:34.539 Brylle Girang: And I wanted to see if I can be persuaded to, like.
35 00:06:35.050 ⇒ 00:06:39.749 Brylle Girang: be… be rallied under your… under your project. Does that make sense?
36 00:06:40.010 ⇒ 00:06:42.830 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that totally makes sense, yes.
37 00:06:43.090 ⇒ 00:06:50.369 Miranda Wen: Yeah, it seems like having, like, a more conclusive, comprehensive product review is better than, like, looking at the doc.
38 00:06:50.800 ⇒ 00:06:52.019 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
39 00:06:52.530 ⇒ 00:06:55.000 Miranda Wen: yeah, I think that makes sense.
40 00:06:55.000 ⇒ 00:07:02.110 Brylle Girang: Because at the end of the day, I’m also just going to share this with you. The project reviews are not really meant
41 00:07:02.250 ⇒ 00:07:06.619 Brylle Girang: To, like, how do you call this? Are not really meant to…
42 00:07:07.120 ⇒ 00:07:19.019 Brylle Girang: to test out the capabilities of the doc and the project plan. The main purpose of the project review meeting is to… is to see how well you understand, like, the project and the product.
43 00:07:19.910 ⇒ 00:07:23.799 Brylle Girang: And I think that’s, like, the most important thing.
44 00:07:23.930 ⇒ 00:07:38.470 Brylle Girang: for your role right now. It’s not, you know, it’s not how good and how detailed this product plan is, but how well you understand the product, how well you understand the project, and how well you understand, like, where we need to go from here.
45 00:07:41.540 ⇒ 00:07:44.400 Brylle Girang: It’s like a… it’s like a… a thesis defense.
46 00:07:45.810 ⇒ 00:07:48.219 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, yes, totally understand that.
47 00:07:50.670 ⇒ 00:07:55.520 Miranda Wen: Yeah, then… then do you think, like, for my current product plan, like,
48 00:07:56.420 ⇒ 00:08:01.230 Miranda Wen: How could that be done better to… Hmm…
49 00:08:02.420 ⇒ 00:08:07.279 Miranda Wen: To, show my understanding or, like, make it more, more persuasive.
50 00:08:08.130 ⇒ 00:08:13.080 Brylle Girang: I think a presentation will be, like, your best bet here.
51 00:08:13.210 ⇒ 00:08:28.630 Brylle Girang: Because this product plan is already good in a way that it’s super detailed, but I’m pretty sure that not everyone will be… like, not everyone will be super excited reading, like, a 10-page document of the product plan, but I know that
52 00:08:28.740 ⇒ 00:08:37.600 Brylle Girang: Most of the people here, if they see, like, an amazing demo, if they see, like, wow, this platform is something that’s exciting for me.
53 00:08:37.919 ⇒ 00:08:41.570 Brylle Girang: Then, that will rally everyone on your end, on your side.
54 00:08:41.960 ⇒ 00:08:42.530 Brylle Girang: You know.
55 00:08:44.140 ⇒ 00:08:51.430 Miranda Wen: Totally, totally makes sense. Yeah, just like how you, showed the skill in the retro, like, 2 weeks ago.
56 00:08:51.430 ⇒ 00:08:55.340 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I mean, what you need to, like, remember is that
57 00:08:56.970 ⇒ 00:09:06.700 Brylle Girang: People here are really smart, and people here are really willing to learn things, but our people here do not have, like, enough time
58 00:09:06.770 ⇒ 00:09:22.240 Brylle Girang: To, like, go on, or go through things. And if we just share with them, you know, a really detailed document, and they don’t see the value at a glance, it will be hard for us to rally them for our project.
59 00:09:23.020 ⇒ 00:09:24.240 Miranda Wen: Mmm. That’s the beauty.
60 00:09:24.240 ⇒ 00:09:34.949 Brylle Girang: reason why I’m trying to, like, push out more Zoom clips, because there are some people who, you know, prefer that they see things, that they see the value immediately.
61 00:09:35.080 ⇒ 00:09:45.429 Brylle Girang: And then, you know, if they see that, hey, this is… this is good, this is cool, this is amazing, how can I do it? Then that’s when they go through the… to the steps, that’s the… that’s when they go through the…
62 00:09:45.540 ⇒ 00:09:47.220 Brylle Girang: the actual document.
63 00:09:48.300 ⇒ 00:09:50.840 Miranda Wen: Mmm, I see, I see.
64 00:09:51.200 ⇒ 00:10:02.130 Miranda Wen: But I guess, like, the problem for, bring forward work is, like, a lot of things are broken. Like, a lot of things are buggy, like, it’s still kind of hard to, like, run.
65 00:10:02.230 ⇒ 00:10:04.879 Miranda Wen: Something on the open work right now.
66 00:10:05.870 ⇒ 00:10:11.280 Miranda Wen: That makes, like, the demo part, a bit harder, because…
67 00:10:11.380 ⇒ 00:10:18.929 Miranda Wen: What I understood from Utem is, like, after we figured out, like, this product plan, then we, like, started shooting the linear tickets, and…
68 00:10:19.080 ⇒ 00:10:24.650 Miranda Wen: Mika Simons and, I’m basically going from there.
69 00:10:25.460 ⇒ 00:10:33.030 Miranda Wen: what is kind of hard is because it’s, like, completely, like, a new… it’s not, like, something living within Cursor. It’s, like, completely separate from this.
70 00:10:33.070 ⇒ 00:10:52.760 Miranda Wen: I’m not sure, like, how should I go ahead to make this demo and the value more explicitly shown, but I do think that’s definitely, like, the direction I want to go, like, when I get to, like, starting rolling out with the internal users. By that time, like, it should be, like, able to show them.
71 00:10:52.830 ⇒ 00:10:53.560 Miranda Wen: Yeah.
72 00:10:53.860 ⇒ 00:10:58.269 Brylle Girang: Yeah, with the bugs that you’re mentioning.
73 00:10:58.390 ⇒ 00:11:01.350 Brylle Girang: Are you pushing OTAM to, like, fix this?
74 00:11:03.210 ⇒ 00:11:08.850 Brylle Girang: Or are you pushing Otang to fix the bugs, or are you waiting for him to fix the bugs?
75 00:11:09.720 ⇒ 00:11:15.240 Miranda Wen: For sale, I did already see some improvements, like, but,
76 00:11:15.970 ⇒ 00:11:22.879 Miranda Wen: like, it’s still not the very… it’s still not, like, very ideal. Yeah.
77 00:11:23.160 ⇒ 00:11:32.070 Miranda Wen: Yeah, but I think, like, there’s just, like, a lot, like, more future shipping and stuff, so, like, I think within what Hyama may want me to do, too, is, like, later in the stage, I will be able to, like…
78 00:11:32.420 ⇒ 00:11:37.410 Miranda Wen: Handle that part, to ship the features, make sure the workflow is smooth.
79 00:11:37.410 ⇒ 00:11:53.019 Brylle Girang: Okay, okay. I think a word of advice. I have been working with Otam directly, and one thing that he really wants people to do is, like, push him to fix things that can help us drive our initiatives or our projects.
80 00:11:53.130 ⇒ 00:12:11.520 Brylle Girang: I would say, if the Brainforge Work platform is super buggy, pick your focus areas, like, maybe pick a demo that you want to focus on. Maybe the difference between, you know, Brainforge Work and Cursor, that is not… it’s not an IDE, you can use it as a chatbot, etc.
81 00:12:11.680 ⇒ 00:12:27.120 Brylle Girang: Or maybe go through the workflows, go through the skills. Pick areas where it’s usable enough for a demo, and you don’t need to, like, pick everything, especially those that are not yet working.
82 00:12:27.370 ⇒ 00:12:31.850 Brylle Girang: And if you have… if there’s something important that you want to show.
83 00:12:32.210 ⇒ 00:12:34.599 Brylle Girang: Push bottom to fix that ASAP.
84 00:12:35.400 ⇒ 00:12:36.840 Miranda Wen: Hmm, okay, okay.
85 00:12:37.060 ⇒ 00:12:43.430 Brylle Girang: I think one thing that OTAMs also want to see from you is how, like.
86 00:12:43.630 ⇒ 00:12:50.949 Brylle Girang: How dedicated are you enough for our product that you’re willing to, like, push him every day to get the results that you need?
87 00:12:51.750 ⇒ 00:12:53.600 Miranda Wen: Mmm, I see, I see.
88 00:12:54.200 ⇒ 00:13:01.890 Miranda Wen: Yeah, thank you, thank you, Bela, I think that’s very helpful, yeah. Yeah, I feel like, definitely, I feel a little bit biz…
89 00:13:01.980 ⇒ 00:13:20.260 Miranda Wen: stock here for the demo thing, so that’s why, like, for now, like, I just got the photos, but it’s not, like, a ready-to-show, like, workflow. Yeah, yeah, if… yeah, I think if it’s, like, this is the way to go, I think I would definitely do that, and I think that’s very helpful.
90 00:13:20.260 ⇒ 00:13:22.090 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I mean, if you’re stopped.
91 00:13:22.290 ⇒ 00:13:31.040 Brylle Girang: lean on Utam. Utam’s really excited to work on this project, you know, he’s really techy, and this is something that excites him.
92 00:13:31.040 ⇒ 00:13:43.079 Brylle Girang: So, I’m pretty sure that he also wants to work on this, but he might also be waiting for you to, like, tell him what you need to focus on, what he needs to prioritize, just for us to go through this product plan.
93 00:13:43.790 ⇒ 00:13:45.040 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes.
94 00:13:45.240 ⇒ 00:13:46.120 Miranda Wen: colon.
95 00:13:46.490 ⇒ 00:13:51.769 Brylle Girang: Alright, yeah, I mean, can you, can you walk me through, like, the main changes on this product plan?
96 00:13:52.860 ⇒ 00:14:06.519 Miranda Wen: Yes, I mean, definitely, like, there are a lot of changes, but I think we can, like, kind of focus on, like, the feedback you gave. So, for example, I will just, like, go by sequence quickly,
97 00:14:06.520 ⇒ 00:14:16.769 Miranda Wen: So I think, like, the feedback one is, like, where do you clarify, like, like, the difference and the value that bring forward to work really add on, that different from cursor? I think,
98 00:14:16.770 ⇒ 00:14:21.109 Miranda Wen: I have, like, the… the big, big, big picture where value shows up.
99 00:14:21.210 ⇒ 00:14:31.350 Miranda Wen: section dedicated to that, as well as, like, I changed, like, the program overview a bit. And I think you also asked me about, like, why this is a…
100 00:14:31.460 ⇒ 00:14:37.180 Miranda Wen: time to build it right now. I also add this, like, winels section.
101 00:14:37.450 ⇒ 00:14:47.329 Miranda Wen: on… on why it’s… it’s… it’s the time to build this, kind of like an expansion of, like, the explanation I gave during the project review.
102 00:14:47.580 ⇒ 00:14:48.320 Miranda Wen: Yeah.
103 00:14:48.700 ⇒ 00:14:50.250 Brylle Girang: Okay, buckshot.
104 00:14:50.680 ⇒ 00:14:52.100 Miranda Wen: Yeah,
105 00:14:52.270 ⇒ 00:15:05.319 Miranda Wen: And I think, like, for, this feedback you gave me about, like, why do people should spend time learning this… this tool, because… instead of, like, because we said so, and how well, like.
106 00:15:05.440 ⇒ 00:15:12.029 Miranda Wen: people, like, adopt it smoothly. I think, like, a part is, like, the… where the value shows up is, like.
107 00:15:12.250 ⇒ 00:15:30.149 Miranda Wen: It’s like, it’s… we hope them to, like, be really trying to have the guided process where they don’t need to, like, really spend much time to adopt, at least, like, a lot less than a cursor, and it’s also, like, part of the success metrics we are evaluating.
108 00:15:30.310 ⇒ 00:15:43.490 Miranda Wen: we’re evaluating. And, also in terms of, like, the initiatives, especially initiatives, some milestones that we are more…
109 00:15:43.680 ⇒ 00:15:46.259 Miranda Wen: More in detail and,
110 00:15:46.910 ⇒ 00:15:55.390 Miranda Wen: more reliably shows, like, what are, how are they gonna adopt, and what are some, like, feedbacks we’re…
111 00:15:55.570 ⇒ 00:16:00.350 Miranda Wen: Gonna communicate through them, and basically just trying to make this process as, like.
112 00:16:00.700 ⇒ 00:16:03.320 Miranda Wen: Easy as possible for them.
113 00:16:03.500 ⇒ 00:16:04.430 Miranda Wen: Yeah.
114 00:16:05.120 ⇒ 00:16:05.750 Brylle Girang: Okay.
115 00:16:05.920 ⇒ 00:16:06.900 Miranda Wen: Yeah.
116 00:16:06.900 ⇒ 00:16:09.570 Brylle Girang: I think on the L&D side.
117 00:16:10.070 ⇒ 00:16:20.440 Brylle Girang: The main benefit of the OpenWork platform is that we don’t need to train people so much, because the platform is intuitive enough for people to… Yeah. Is that right?
118 00:16:20.810 ⇒ 00:16:22.250 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, totally.
119 00:16:22.250 ⇒ 00:16:22.780 Brylle Girang: Okay.
120 00:16:25.090 ⇒ 00:16:34.749 Miranda Wen: Yeah, but as we probably briefly discussed, like, for the L&D side, where Otem suggests, like, maybe in the future this could also…
121 00:16:34.750 ⇒ 00:16:51.479 Miranda Wen: I mean, the primary use case is, like, it will be a part of the package, platform that gave to the client and delivery side. For example, we build the SpringForge for… dedicated to, like, go-to-market people, then we can sell it to go-to-market people, but I think, like, the second best use case in the future might be that,
122 00:16:51.580 ⇒ 00:17:06.510 Miranda Wen: to, as he mentioned, like, maybe L&D for external clients training? I’m not sure, like, how does, like, the L&D client delivery side work up externally? Could you walk me through a little bit on that?
123 00:17:06.510 ⇒ 00:17:20.799 Brylle Girang: Yeah, actually, that was, like, my proposal just one month ago, when I was building the L&D team. I wanted the L&D team to be… to also drive our revenue in the future, and not just act like an internal
124 00:17:21.000 ⇒ 00:17:23.630 Brylle Girang: an internal team, right?
125 00:17:23.630 ⇒ 00:17:24.210 Miranda Wen: Yeah.
126 00:17:24.210 ⇒ 00:17:28.359 Brylle Girang: So, one problem that I have been seeing in the industry is that
127 00:17:28.510 ⇒ 00:17:36.419 Brylle Girang: a lot of people wants to adopt to AI, but no one’s taking the time to, like, train the people how to actually use AI.
128 00:17:36.750 ⇒ 00:17:47.410 Brylle Girang: A lot of the AI implementations right now are failing, you know? People build AI tools, people build AI products. For example, we have ABC Andy.
129 00:17:47.600 ⇒ 00:17:55.699 Brylle Girang: Our team is working on, like, an AI chatbot for their CSRs, customer service representatives.
130 00:17:55.990 ⇒ 00:18:00.109 Brylle Girang: And not everyone has been using the AI chatbot.
131 00:18:00.530 ⇒ 00:18:14.890 Brylle Girang: That’s an adoption problem, that’s something that L&D can solve for them, right? L&D will be, you know, taking lead on the training, they will be taking lead on the overall adoption of the AI tool.
132 00:18:15.020 ⇒ 00:18:33.310 Brylle Girang: And that’s, like, a common trend across all companies. I’m pretty sure that most companies right now, it’s either, you know, only the executives or only the technology team are using AI, and then most of the people that are outside that bracket
133 00:18:33.520 ⇒ 00:18:38.400 Brylle Girang: they’re… they might only be using ChatGPT for… for me Joker stuff.
134 00:18:38.870 ⇒ 00:18:39.409 Brylle Girang: So, our.
135 00:18:39.410 ⇒ 00:18:40.170 Miranda Wen: I mean… Yeah.
136 00:18:40.170 ⇒ 00:18:45.099 Brylle Girang: To, like, help companies better understand like, what AI can do
137 00:18:45.710 ⇒ 00:18:52.270 Brylle Girang: To help them achieve their goals, regardless of their role, regardless of their position, regardless of their…
138 00:18:52.390 ⇒ 00:18:55.079 Brylle Girang: Regardless of their industry. So that’s…
139 00:18:55.080 ⇒ 00:18:55.400 Miranda Wen: I don’t know.
140 00:18:55.400 ⇒ 00:18:59.020 Brylle Girang: seeing, like, the L&D commercial side on our end.
141 00:18:59.840 ⇒ 00:19:01.350 Miranda Wen: Well, gotcha.
142 00:19:01.590 ⇒ 00:19:02.469 Brylle Girang: Was that clear?
143 00:19:02.840 ⇒ 00:19:04.769 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, that’s pretty clear.
144 00:19:04.770 ⇒ 00:19:08.369 Brylle Girang: Yeah, and I think, as it connects to this, you know.
145 00:19:08.460 ⇒ 00:19:27.829 Brylle Girang: We can sell this as a product, and then it’s either they figure it out themselves, or they buy an L&D package from us, which should contain, you know, training resources, we’ll be the ones managing the adoption, we’ll be the ones pushing adoption, we’ll be the ones, you know, pushing the feedback loop.
146 00:19:29.680 ⇒ 00:19:37.609 Miranda Wen: Yeah, totally. Yeah, yeah, I think that sounds pretty clear to me. And I think, like, what we,
147 00:19:38.470 ⇒ 00:19:46.620 Miranda Wen: want to do is, like, add on… I think, like, the value it shows on both, like, the internal and the external is, like…
148 00:19:46.850 ⇒ 00:19:51.040 Miranda Wen: like, pretty much, like, similar. I think it’s the other end, it’s, like.
149 00:19:51.250 ⇒ 00:19:53.109 Miranda Wen: We have the kind of, like, this…
150 00:19:53.240 ⇒ 00:20:00.340 Miranda Wen: AI hub, let’s… it’s the agent skills all sitting within, bring forth work, but you don’t need, like.
151 00:20:00.920 ⇒ 00:20:11.100 Miranda Wen: like, a purse… a person to, like, guide you through, like, this should be having… on the… on the page, it should be, like, having enough, like, guidance, and
152 00:20:11.260 ⇒ 00:20:25.330 Miranda Wen: discoverable items. Like, for now, I thought, like, maybe discover is, like, something we can tackle the first, like, getting to know what are the skills there and how to use it. Right now, like, you have the DoorDash workflow, which is amazing, but I think, like.
153 00:20:25.720 ⇒ 00:20:30.269 Miranda Wen: I think, like, on this SpringForge work, like, it should be able to…
154 00:20:30.430 ⇒ 00:20:37.740 Miranda Wen: see all the skills available, and knowing, like, what kind of outputs, and what it could look like. You don’t need to, like, educate,
155 00:20:38.010 ⇒ 00:20:43.809 Miranda Wen: Like, everybody… every time you have, like, a new skill, or the skills that are available. Yeah.
156 00:20:43.810 ⇒ 00:20:44.740 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah.
157 00:20:45.300 ⇒ 00:20:55.109 Brylle Girang: Also, one thing that might also be helpful to add here is the ability for us to, like, dive deeper into the analytics piece of it.
158 00:20:55.390 ⇒ 00:21:02.020 Brylle Girang: Because right now, one of the main problems that we have with Cursor is that we don’t… we can’t track, like, the usage of our people.
159 00:21:02.180 ⇒ 00:21:12.720 Brylle Girang: We… we have vague details, that… that tells us, hey, who… who’s using cursor that much? Who’s… who’s chatting with Cursor?
160 00:21:12.960 ⇒ 00:21:22.599 Brylle Girang: who’s actually using our skills, our workflows, etc. We don’t have those details, and we don’t have data, so we can’t make informed decisions around it.
161 00:21:22.760 ⇒ 00:21:33.340 Brylle Girang: And I do think that that’s going to be a capability of Brakeforge work in the future. So that’s something that can also be helpful when you’re pitching this to, like, let’s say Robert or Rota.
162 00:21:34.050 ⇒ 00:21:36.499 Miranda Wen: Mmm, yes, yes, totally.
163 00:21:36.650 ⇒ 00:21:49.899 Miranda Wen: Yeah, that’s also something I wanted to achieve, and also giving… if we had that information, it would just, like, help a lot on, like, the Discovery page, as well as, like, knowing… also for the commercial side.
164 00:21:49.900 ⇒ 00:21:50.640 Brylle Girang: Exactly.
165 00:21:50.910 ⇒ 00:21:54.520 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, I… the other day, I asked Uran about it, he gave me something, like.
166 00:21:55.080 ⇒ 00:22:09.630 Miranda Wen: like, for the implementation side, we’re not very clear to me, like, how it’s gonna be tracked, given, like, cursor right now don’t have this capability, but yeah, I think I could definitely include that in the product plan.
167 00:22:09.630 ⇒ 00:22:18.289 Brylle Girang: I mean, don’t focus on the implementation, that’s, like, Otam’s problem. Focus on, like, what problem are you trying to solve on the analytics piece.
168 00:22:18.480 ⇒ 00:22:22.700 Brylle Girang: Like, maybe, you know, add the main questions that most companies are…
169 00:22:22.880 ⇒ 00:22:31.829 Brylle Girang: are trying to answer via their AI tools, like, who’s using what? Are our workflows being used? Who’s using which skills?
170 00:22:31.980 ⇒ 00:22:38.060 Brylle Girang: What’s the most used models, who is burning the most tokens, etc.
171 00:22:38.980 ⇒ 00:22:39.840 Miranda Wen: Mmm.
172 00:22:41.380 ⇒ 00:22:43.809 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, okay, cool, yeah.
173 00:22:43.940 ⇒ 00:22:45.890 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I think that’s a really good idea.
174 00:22:48.840 ⇒ 00:22:49.570 Brylle Girang: Okay.
175 00:22:51.730 ⇒ 00:22:58.240 Miranda Wen: Yeah. I also have, like, a quick question. The other day on the Slack for my Bring Forge…
176 00:22:58.480 ⇒ 00:23:14.520 Miranda Wen: platform, like, like, the one that we’re… for whatever reason, agent’s just, like, not… not working. It just, like, kept on, like, API call arrow. Like, for this, like, what does the process look like? Like, should I… you should, like, a linear ticket, or…
177 00:23:14.730 ⇒ 00:23:17.540 Miranda Wen: Or, how should I get this resolved?
178 00:23:17.540 ⇒ 00:23:22.530 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I think that it’s not currently being maintained.
179 00:23:22.650 ⇒ 00:23:29.170 Brylle Girang: Like, religiously, and everyone’s just using cursor to do this, to do their stuff.
180 00:23:29.280 ⇒ 00:23:33.020 Brylle Girang: And the agent’s right now in, like, the platform webpage.
181 00:23:33.260 ⇒ 00:23:35.820 Brylle Girang: I don’t think anyone’s using those.
182 00:23:36.690 ⇒ 00:23:37.370 Brylle Girang: So…
183 00:23:37.370 ⇒ 00:23:37.990 Miranda Wen: So…
184 00:23:37.990 ⇒ 00:23:42.769 Brylle Girang: That might be the reason why it’s broken, because nobody has brought it up before.
185 00:23:43.050 ⇒ 00:23:50.080 Brylle Girang: And I do think that Utam has been making some changes in the web platform, and those might, you know, those might…
186 00:23:50.690 ⇒ 00:23:53.650 Brylle Girang: Those might be removed anytime soon, but you can control.
187 00:23:53.650 ⇒ 00:23:54.110 Miranda Wen: government.
188 00:23:54.110 ⇒ 00:23:54.640 Brylle Girang: Nope.
189 00:23:55.410 ⇒ 00:23:57.850 Miranda Wen: Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, good to know.
190 00:23:58.090 ⇒ 00:24:15.610 Miranda Wen: Cool. Yeah, then, moving forward, what I’ll do is, like, I will suggest in the platforms for, like, a… like, a formal project reveal as last time, and to see if, like, everybody’s down for that idea. If not, I think we will still do the…
191 00:24:15.680 ⇒ 00:24:22.280 Miranda Wen: a sync way or individual chat way. I just, like, chatted with… Pranav and Rico today,
192 00:24:22.420 ⇒ 00:24:27.390 Miranda Wen: But we’re… but apparently I need more time to review the doc, so I’m gonna chat with him tomorrow again.
193 00:24:27.390 ⇒ 00:24:28.040 Brylle Girang: Yep.
194 00:24:28.300 ⇒ 00:24:30.390 Miranda Wen: See how we can, like,
195 00:24:30.700 ⇒ 00:24:40.089 Miranda Wen: like, gather as much less feedback as possible, ideas, because it definitely, like, will influence everybody here, everybody’s team here.
196 00:24:40.250 ⇒ 00:24:46.020 Miranda Wen: And, and my goal is obviously to sign off, like, this week, yeah.
197 00:24:46.020 ⇒ 00:24:53.599 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah. And maybe not required, but maybe some resources that you can also lean on are Kayla and Jasmine.
198 00:24:53.870 ⇒ 00:25:00.539 Brylle Girang: They were the ones who were also challenged when it comes to adopting Cursor, especially the setting up phase.
199 00:25:01.740 ⇒ 00:25:06.779 Brylle Girang: So, maybe if they’re excited about this, then it might be a really, really good project.
200 00:25:07.880 ⇒ 00:25:15.700 Miranda Wen: Mmm, I see, I see. So should I also, like, kind of, like, loop them into this, like, a product stakeholder?
201 00:25:16.350 ⇒ 00:25:23.979 Brylle Girang: No, not really. I mean, we don’t need to, like, oversaturate the stakeholders in this phase, because that might mess up.
202 00:25:24.300 ⇒ 00:25:39.869 Brylle Girang: like, the overall project, but maybe just get, you know, a quick feedback from them, share with them the product plan. What do they think about it? Are they excited about it? And then, you know, they don’t need to be, like, an actual stakeholder, but just minor feedbacks.
203 00:25:40.560 ⇒ 00:25:47.569 Miranda Wen: Mmm, I see, I see, okay, yeah, makes sense. Wait, so what is Jasmine’s team on? I didn’t… I haven’t talked to her yet.
204 00:25:47.570 ⇒ 00:25:59.339 Brylle Girang: Yeah, Jasmine is an SL, a service lead, and she’s leading the strategy piece of it. So, he… she is leading, like, Amber and Advait, working together with Greg.
205 00:26:00.310 ⇒ 00:26:05.109 Miranda Wen: Oh, I see, I see, I see. Okay, good to know, yeah, that’s very clear to me.
206 00:26:05.520 ⇒ 00:26:06.300 Brylle Girang: Okay.
207 00:26:06.890 ⇒ 00:26:09.859 Miranda Wen: Okay, thank you so much, Bea. Thank you so much for your time.
208 00:26:10.060 ⇒ 00:26:14.240 Brylle Girang: Yeah, you’re welcome. I’m rooting for you, Miranda. You can do this.
209 00:26:14.500 ⇒ 00:26:20.430 Miranda Wen: Oh, thank you, thank you so much, yeah. Okay, yeah, I’m excited to see how it rolls out.
210 00:26:20.930 ⇒ 00:26:31.939 Brylle Girang: I am too, I am too. This is… this is, like, an amazing product, this is an amazing project. You… you just need to make sure that, you know, everyone rallies behind it, so that you can get the support that you need.
211 00:26:32.460 ⇒ 00:26:36.849 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, totally. Yeah, thank you so much, Bea. Have a great day, then.
212 00:26:36.850 ⇒ 00:26:38.270 Brylle Girang: Thank you, Miranda. Bye-bye.
213 00:26:38.550 ⇒ 00:26:39.750 Miranda Wen: Bye.