Meeting Title: Brainforge Work Product Demo Date: 2026-04-15 Meeting participants: Miranda Wen, Rico Rejoso


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1 00:00:41.310 00:00:43.030 Miranda Wen: Hi, Rachel!

2 00:00:45.920 00:00:47.629 Rico Rejoso: Hey, Miranda, can you hear me?

3 00:00:47.900 00:00:49.499 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I can hear you now, yeah.

4 00:00:49.700 00:00:58.429 Miranda Wen: Okay. Yeah, thank you so much for joining on this call today, yeah. So, I would love to show you how it really looks like on the…

5 00:00:58.540 00:01:08.779 Miranda Wen: Forge platform, because, your team, like, will also, like, once we started rolling out, like, you team, we’re also gonna be using it, so…

6 00:01:09.470 00:01:29.149 Miranda Wen: Let me… let me share my screen to see… see the application. I think it would be way better than just, like, the doc itself, and then with this, like, understanding, you can, like, then go to Doc, to… to give, like, further feedback, and to see if I addressed your feedbacks from the last time, from the product review well.

7 00:01:30.010 00:01:30.630 Rico Rejoso: Okay.

8 00:01:31.090 00:01:33.539 Miranda Wen: Okay, let me share my screen.

9 00:01:34.080 00:01:36.069 Miranda Wen: Can you see my screen?

10 00:01:41.100 00:01:43.700 Miranda Wen: Y-you can’t see me… see my screen right now.

11 00:01:44.260 00:01:44.850 Rico Rejoso: Yep.

12 00:01:44.850 00:01:51.729 Miranda Wen: Okay, perfect. Oh, so it’s basically, like, the only redacted for the work. Work is basically the, product. I’m…

13 00:01:52.000 00:02:02.859 Miranda Wen: focusing on right now, because it’s, like, Brain Forge work. Although the last time, last week, during the product review call, I called it, like, Forge Lab, but, we changed it to work.

14 00:02:05.520 00:02:06.600 Miranda Wen: Exciting.

15 00:02:07.650 00:02:14.430 Miranda Wen: Yeah, so this is basically the page. And, you can… oops.

16 00:02:15.690 00:02:21.919 Miranda Wen: This was, like, the basic functionality build-off, so basically, like, a part where you can, like.

17 00:02:22.020 00:02:25.019 Miranda Wen: Set up your first worker,

18 00:02:25.310 00:02:35.060 Miranda Wen: Which, right now, we have this page, so this is, like, the Brainforge work, we are, for you to, like, run repeated workflows. Like, the…

19 00:02:38.320 00:02:50.839 Miranda Wen: like, the skills we build, like, B was, like, being shipping, and there’s, like, a Discover page where you can see, like, what kind of workflows are you want to focus on, like, deck review, front-end design.

20 00:02:51.290 00:02:54.850 Miranda Wen: Client engagement, and for operations,

21 00:02:56.170 00:03:02.990 Miranda Wen: delivery, strategy, like, different… we were thinking, like, by vertical, having, like, different…

22 00:03:03.660 00:03:07.230 Miranda Wen: skills that we can discover here, and they also, you can, like.

23 00:03:07.420 00:03:18.270 Miranda Wen: build based on what we have right now, make a small tweaks, and run the workflow. And, here you can start, like, a workflow run to…

24 00:03:18.270 00:03:27.990 Rico Rejoso: I’m sorry to cut you off, I just wanted to… you to start from the beginning, to be honest. Like, one thing is that I’m not that technical.

25 00:03:28.150 00:03:33.590 Rico Rejoso: When it comes to this, took me some time to get used to Cursor and its stuff, so…

26 00:03:34.020 00:03:34.400 Miranda Wen: Yeah, definitely.

27 00:03:34.400 00:03:38.500 Rico Rejoso: I wanted to know how we can set up, like, For example, the worker.

28 00:03:38.660 00:03:41.000 Rico Rejoso: How can we set it up, right?

29 00:03:43.170 00:03:48.189 Miranda Wen: That part, like, later we’re thinking… it should be just, like,

30 00:03:49.050 00:03:52.919 Miranda Wen: Kinda like… wait, let me see…

31 00:03:54.750 00:04:04.489 Miranda Wen: I think this one is, like, buggy again, but I think, like, we don’t even, like, the goal is, like, you don’t even need to set up, you just, like, like, hear, like, select a skill.

32 00:04:05.110 00:04:05.620 Rico Rejoso: Oh, okay.

33 00:04:05.620 00:04:17.689 Miranda Wen: Yeah, you basically, like, select… give the… basically, like, cursor, but you just, like, you don’t even need to, like, have all the… look at the things on the left side of the cursor where, like,

34 00:04:18.060 00:04:25.869 Miranda Wen: see the same thing in the left side of the cursor, where you have, like, all the IDE stuffs, and you just basically get on this page and see, like, oh.

35 00:04:26.230 00:04:33.389 Miranda Wen: I wanna, like, like, presentation, slide skill, and, here are the input, and you do that, run the skills for me.

36 00:04:34.380 00:04:36.349 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I see, I see.

37 00:04:36.350 00:04:43.990 Miranda Wen: Yeah, like, for example, this star running, and it’s not beautiful yet, but it’s, like, for marketing front design, and…

38 00:04:45.550 00:04:53.210 Miranda Wen: We can let you know, like, what this… you can use the preview to learn what it will look like, if it’s something you want, and then you start the…

39 00:04:53.800 00:05:04.139 Miranda Wen: describe, like, what you want, like, oh, I want, like, this design, like, a site cover page, design, design, design.

40 00:05:04.450 00:05:12.850 Miranda Wen: a cover, and then we’re just, like, run. So, exactly the use case that we want to have it to be used for non-technical people.

41 00:05:14.090 00:05:14.890 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

42 00:05:17.160 00:05:18.130 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

43 00:05:18.460 00:05:24.880 Miranda Wen: So… yeah, that’s the goal, but we’re definitely gonna have, like,

44 00:05:25.310 00:05:31.800 Miranda Wen: still gonna be, like, more chat native, but the goal is, like, to make it a lot easier than Cursor.

45 00:05:31.970 00:05:43.789 Miranda Wen: Where you have all the skills available, easy to discover, you don’t need to, like, go from Slack to learn what are new skills shaping, and it can show you, like, how does the skill really look like, and how do you use that.

46 00:05:43.970 00:05:46.050 Miranda Wen: Here, yeah.

47 00:05:47.750 00:05:52.430 Rico Rejoso: Okay, so select cursor can launch his lab on all the MCPs that we have.

48 00:05:54.990 00:05:56.589 Miranda Wen: ASR, could you repeat your question?

49 00:05:56.870 00:05:59.990 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, just like cursor… I mean, it functions the same as cursor, right?

50 00:06:00.330 00:06:06.980 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, function is the same as cursor. But… but, like,

51 00:06:07.860 00:06:12.399 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I would say, like, function is, like, same as cursor, but it’s, like, more…

52 00:06:12.890 00:06:24.880 Miranda Wen: more so helpful and clear to, people, because cursor is just, like, not for everything, but on this, like, work, it will be only for skills, and…

53 00:06:25.170 00:06:30.550 Miranda Wen: Right now, we’re considering to… Wait, how do I go back to the pic?

54 00:06:32.030 00:06:48.709 Miranda Wen: Yeah, right now it’s, like, work is here, but we’re considering to make, like, work and AI agents, like, AI agents will be the part of the work, in which, like, you use this to do the repeated workflow things you do. I don’t know what’s your workflow look like, there’s, like, something, like, we can…

55 00:06:48.910 00:06:55.690 Miranda Wen: schedule another time to discuss, to see how it’s, like, really rolling out for the operations team. But, yeah, that’s…

56 00:06:57.340 00:07:00.880 Rico Rejoso: So, this basically just execute any skills that we have right now.

57 00:07:01.430 00:07:04.990 Miranda Wen: Yes. For the skills part, specifically.

58 00:07:09.020 00:07:11.210 Rico Rejoso: Okay, yeah.

59 00:07:12.140 00:07:22.649 Rico Rejoso: I have this automation cursor, which is… I use the command… the command I created. Would that also be… can we also ingest it here on BrainForge Work or Forgelab?

60 00:07:23.830 00:07:25.389 Miranda Wen: What kind of command?

61 00:07:26.320 00:07:31.080 Rico Rejoso: It’s more of an, I think it, enricher. It’s…

62 00:07:31.510 00:07:35.040 Rico Rejoso: Its goal is to enrich any tickets that we have on linear.

63 00:07:35.150 00:07:39.690 Rico Rejoso: To ensure it has proper context, goal outcomes, and acceptance criteria.

64 00:07:41.380 00:07:44.740 Miranda Wen: Wait, do you mind, like, showing me what it looks like?

65 00:07:52.010 00:07:52.790 Rico Rejoso: Wait.

66 00:07:53.380 00:07:53.790 Miranda Wen: Alright.

67 00:07:53.790 00:07:55.630 Rico Rejoso: The automation or the command itself?

68 00:07:56.000 00:08:00.730 Miranda Wen: Bows, if possible.

69 00:08:04.440 00:08:05.040 Rico Rejoso: Okay.

70 00:08:05.540 00:08:06.620 Rico Rejoso: One second.

71 00:08:42.320 00:08:45.530 Rico Rejoso: Okay, let me share my screen.

72 00:08:54.590 00:08:56.449 Rico Rejoso: Oh, can you see my screen?

73 00:08:57.120 00:08:58.060 Miranda Wen: Yes.

74 00:08:58.810 00:09:02.060 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, it’s just this… Enrich Ops Ticket.

75 00:09:02.350 00:09:09.900 Rico Rejoso: This is just for the operations team, just to make sure, because we used to be, like, two members, and want to make sure that the other team member also have

76 00:09:10.210 00:09:18.149 Rico Rejoso: a clear context on what the tickets are, especially if that was requested or created by, or through request by team members of Slack.

77 00:09:19.430 00:09:22.190 Rico Rejoso: And this one runs every Monday and Wednesday.

78 00:09:23.920 00:09:27.810 Rico Rejoso: It also gives me a report and sends me a message on Slack.

79 00:09:28.030 00:09:38.189 Rico Rejoso: to inform me how many tickets were enriched, because it was part of my OKR before, so I had it reported to me after it runs the automation, or it runs the command.

80 00:09:41.950 00:09:42.930 Rico Rejoso: I don’t know if…

81 00:09:43.880 00:09:47.450 Miranda Wen: What’s what the outcome looks like?

82 00:09:48.740 00:09:50.470 Rico Rejoso: in Slack, or…

83 00:09:50.470 00:09:54.330 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s like… in Slack.

84 00:09:54.510 00:09:55.859 Miranda Wen: Oh, it’s black, it’s…

85 00:09:55.860 00:10:00.959 Rico Rejoso: Just a message stating that here are the number of tickets that were in reach out of the number of…

86 00:10:00.960 00:10:10.529 Miranda Wen: Oh, that thing. Okay, okay, I see. And how do you, start this automation? Do you mind showing from me, from end-to-end, like, how do you start this thing?

87 00:10:11.680 00:10:13.330 Rico Rejoso: How do I trigger it?

88 00:10:13.330 00:10:14.350 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

89 00:10:14.750 00:10:21.130 Rico Rejoso: It’s just a base of time. It’s just lunch every Monday at 9 Eastern and Wednesday on 9 Eastern.

90 00:10:21.820 00:10:25.159 Miranda Wen: Oh, so you don’t go through, like, the chess session?

91 00:10:26.150 00:10:29.489 Rico Rejoso: No, no, I just have it… the trigger is just the time.

92 00:10:30.000 00:10:32.070 Miranda Wen: Oh, interesting.

93 00:10:33.070 00:10:42.400 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I am not sure, I didn’t know, like, we had this automation thing, but,

94 00:10:42.430 00:10:56.399 Miranda Wen: Yeah, I need to, like, ask Tim about if, like, automation will also be this part as well. But what my instinct, what I feel like so far probably is, because, like.

95 00:10:56.580 00:11:03.330 Miranda Wen: Basically, we’re trying to move out of the cursor for many of the workflows, and for work.

96 00:11:03.690 00:11:17.709 Miranda Wen: I think with AI agents sitting inside, and it makes sense that we also have automation sound. So basically what we want is, like, to be a vertical, for example, like, the operations team. When they come to work, they can… they bring forward work.

97 00:11:17.900 00:11:25.079 Miranda Wen: part where they can just, like, do everything they need to do for the repeatable workflow, and I think it makes sense to include automation as well.

98 00:11:26.220 00:11:27.849 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, and also…

99 00:11:28.670 00:11:43.889 Rico Rejoso: the skills that we have here, I don’t know if this is what we have also in cursor, or this is just the default one that we have right now. Or how are we going to add skills here? Do we have to submit a request, or can we also create skills ourselves?

100 00:11:44.310 00:11:48.269 Miranda Wen: Yeah, so for right now, we want, like, to have, like, the most,

101 00:11:48.650 00:12:08.329 Miranda Wen: helpful skills that we’re trying to design, like, a few skills for each team, so right now we are, like, rolling onto the go-to-market team first, and we’re gonna design some skills that are specifically helping with their workflows, and then make it, like, a package on the BringForge work. They can just, like, as I…

102 00:12:08.340 00:12:17.220 Miranda Wen: Showed you earlier, like, like, the skills, and this will be, like, something just for…

103 00:12:17.380 00:12:24.339 Miranda Wen: the, go-to-market team, and they can just click and use it. They don’t… ideally, like, they don’t need to, like…

104 00:12:24.400 00:12:43.520 Miranda Wen: tweak or build skills that much. We include, like, the most repeated workflows inside our brain forge work. But, rolling out, moving forward. So that’s, like, also, like, a key part we are, like, trying to sell into, like, in the future to our clients. So they don’t… we think, like.

105 00:12:43.520 00:12:55.880 Miranda Wen: for operations team, or go-to-market team, it’s not, like, very builder-oriented, and they shouldn’t be spending so much time on building skills. It should be, like, readily available for them to use, because

106 00:12:55.970 00:13:03.199 Miranda Wen: that’s what skills for, is to save them time so they can, like, spend their time elsewhere that are more critical in their work.

107 00:13:03.200 00:13:08.850 Rico Rejoso: Once we use this skill, can we also, like, add a prompt to it? Because, for example, there’s this skill that we have

108 00:13:08.980 00:13:11.240 Rico Rejoso: for, sales and GTM that…

109 00:13:11.580 00:13:18.539 Rico Rejoso: The skill is for, creating a report, and that also means that we have to indicate the date.

110 00:13:19.160 00:13:21.360 Rico Rejoso: That covers the report.

111 00:13:21.570 00:13:24.340 Rico Rejoso: For example, the previous week, Right? Or…

112 00:13:25.200 00:13:39.050 Rico Rejoso: do we have to create, like, a separate one? Because generally, the skill is available, but you also, one input that we have, which is one human-in-the-loop process, is to add the, the dates that will cover the report.

113 00:13:39.580 00:13:44.499 Miranda Wen: Mmm, yes, yes. I think that’s… that kind of tweak is available, for sure.

114 00:13:44.500 00:13:44.960 Rico Rejoso: Oh, God.

115 00:13:44.960 00:13:50.319 Miranda Wen: Oh, like, it would be, like, Chad… Focus-ish, like…

116 00:13:50.630 00:13:57.370 Miranda Wen: Let me show you… like, when we… start… Oh, where are we?

117 00:13:57.860 00:13:58.890 Miranda Wen: the sink.

118 00:14:03.700 00:14:07.050 Miranda Wen: But basically, like,

119 00:14:07.270 00:14:19.639 Miranda Wen: I think I… earlier I showed you, like, the design part, there was, like, a chat one where you can, like, chat and see, like, like, add this. This is an ideal thing I want, could you… can you add this?

120 00:14:21.330 00:14:22.180 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

121 00:14:22.890 00:14:23.690 Rico Rejoso: Okay.

122 00:14:23.830 00:14:30.280 Miranda Wen: Yeah, yeah, this… those kind of… those are not even, like… I don’t think those are even tweaked to the skill, it just, like, add more.

123 00:14:30.460 00:14:35.740 Miranda Wen: Yeah, like, add something to the skill, like a small…

124 00:14:36.070 00:14:39.050 Miranda Wen: At all, yeah, those definitely are chewable.

125 00:14:39.600 00:14:40.730 Rico Rejoso: Okay, got you.

126 00:14:40.730 00:14:47.450 Miranda Wen: Yeah, but just, like, you don’t need to build a skill from scratch and teach them what are you gonna do, and you don’t need to, like.

127 00:14:47.590 00:14:58.919 Miranda Wen: teach, like, the brain forge work, like, how, like, cursor, where you beat a screen, teach them what kind of outcome you want, what kind of process they want. Like, in this, like, you just click it, and it’s, like, ready to use.

128 00:15:02.510 00:15:08.779 Rico Rejoso: Okay, and also you mentioned a while ago that, yeah, there’s… in the future, we can also opt to create skills here, right?

129 00:15:11.250 00:15:14.149 Rico Rejoso: I mean, we can also create skills, right?

130 00:15:14.440 00:15:15.950 Rico Rejoso: Yeah. Probably.

131 00:15:16.270 00:15:22.299 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, but I think, like, in the future, when we’re rolling onto the client delivery side,

132 00:15:22.470 00:15:29.560 Miranda Wen: I think, ideally, it’s, like, our skills package is, like, very much sufficient, and,

133 00:15:29.770 00:15:43.260 Miranda Wen: work very well with the team already, so they don’t need to create skills, and that’s, like, like, ours, because we already have the skills doing all the automation for them. But, moving on, like, as we were thinking

134 00:15:43.260 00:15:51.240 Miranda Wen: like, I think this is, like, much later. The latest phase will be, like, having the engineering team and basically the builder side to be onboarded.

135 00:15:51.240 00:16:01.140 Miranda Wen: And for them, we will have the ones who… they can be the ones who create skills, but right now, I think, like, for Bring Forge work, it’s more so

136 00:16:01.300 00:16:13.239 Miranda Wen: make skills ready, and make it, like, more so… our value, more so, like, make it discoverable, makes them know exactly what they want, choosing exactly what they want, and make it, like, the…

137 00:16:13.350 00:16:19.079 Miranda Wen: User interface and everything as easy, as smooth as possible.

138 00:16:19.630 00:16:21.630 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I guess one concern would be, like.

139 00:16:21.980 00:16:26.389 Rico Rejoso: On cursor, everyone can use and edit this skill, right?

140 00:16:27.210 00:16:27.590 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

141 00:16:27.880 00:16:29.289 Rico Rejoso: Submitted as a BRI.

142 00:16:29.670 00:16:30.150 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

143 00:16:30.150 00:16:34.869 Rico Rejoso: one skill that I have and I created before, which other team members also found.

144 00:16:34.930 00:16:50.879 Rico Rejoso: usable on their case, and they try to tweak and edit it, and when I use it again, you know, the outcome was different to what I was expecting it to be, because, again, it was tweaked and edited by a certain team member, and I think that’s the security that the.

145 00:16:50.880 00:16:54.500 Miranda Wen: Oh, yes, yes, the permission control part, like, yeah.

146 00:16:54.500 00:16:55.140 Rico Rejoso: Yeah.

147 00:16:56.080 00:16:56.500 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

148 00:16:56.500 00:16:58.909 Rico Rejoso: I ended up creating one again.

149 00:16:59.930 00:17:12.669 Rico Rejoso: I deleted it, because I believe there was, like, too many skills already that we have on cursor, and it’s kind of confusing to see what skill to use, especially if we don’t have, like, a list of… or a taxonomy of all the skills that we have.

150 00:17:13.119 00:17:18.529 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, for sure. Yeah, that’s exactly what we’re trying to do here, so…

151 00:17:18.819 00:17:35.289 Miranda Wen: if the skill’s been… if they give the permission to tweak the skill, then what’s the output gonna be like? We don’t want to give you a surprise, like, it should be stated in our, Brainforge work, and also have a guided process about, like, how do you…

152 00:17:35.789 00:17:40.269 Miranda Wen: How do you, like, run skill, and what kind of skills you should choose?

153 00:17:40.389 00:17:48.709 Miranda Wen: Yeah. Yeah, that’s definitely, like, something that right now in cursor we don’t have, and we hope we can have that in Bring Forge work.

154 00:17:49.120 00:17:54.649 Rico Rejoso: Okay, yeah. And maybe another thing, in case I haven’t yet familiarized myself with the UI,

155 00:17:54.850 00:17:56.579 Rico Rejoso: of Greenforged work.

156 00:17:57.010 00:18:08.239 Miranda Wen: Yeah, also, it’s just, like, this is just a proof of concept. This is, like, very, drafted, I think. I think we’re gonna do a lot more iterations after the product plan being passed, yeah.

157 00:18:08.240 00:18:19.829 Rico Rejoso: Okay, I mean, that’s great. It’s a good thing that we have the initial product, week after. It’s just that I haven’t yet explored it, because I don’t know, I know.

158 00:18:20.280 00:18:24.829 Rico Rejoso: I also want to know… Or where it takes me once they click on…

159 00:18:25.290 00:18:30.190 Rico Rejoso: from one, if I toggle one button to another, right?

160 00:18:30.530 00:18:44.049 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes. So right now, like, it’s, we’re building this on open work, so, like, most of the iterations we’ve done, we’re, like, doing separately, like, in OpenWork.

161 00:18:44.180 00:19:03.040 Miranda Wen: So it’s viewed on top of OpenWorks, so it can… like, you don’t have to explore right now, like, I think what’s more important is, like, to see if, like, it answers your questions and feedbacks for the project plan, and if you have any other comments or feedbacks, that I should, like, include in the product plan.

162 00:19:03.170 00:19:10.449 Miranda Wen: And then later on, when we, like, actually started rolling onto, like, the operations team, I think that’ll be the time, like,

163 00:19:10.710 00:19:14.870 Miranda Wen: You should, you should, like, see how it’s, like, really working right now, yeah.

164 00:19:14.870 00:19:23.800 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I guess that’s the time I can provide my feedback, because I got a couple of them on my mind that I want to use this with, like, for creating reports.

165 00:19:23.910 00:19:30.490 Rico Rejoso: For, reporting with our stakeholders the… Our executives, right?

166 00:19:30.680 00:19:39.180 Rico Rejoso: Yeah. Which I prefer to use a different skill, or create a new skill with, and that will also add up, or can be used by the operations team. Right now.

167 00:19:41.990 00:19:42.490 Miranda Wen: Yeah.

168 00:19:42.490 00:19:43.980 Rico Rejoso: I think we’re good, yeah.

169 00:19:44.710 00:19:50.539 Miranda Wen: Okay, okay. Wait, let me just, like, make sure we are…

170 00:19:51.610 00:20:03.689 Miranda Wen: covered, yeah, this was, like… wait, can you see my screen right? Oh, you can. Yeah. This was, like, the feedback, doc I summarized from…

171 00:20:03.720 00:20:15.350 Miranda Wen: some… some are from last time, and some are, like, who said it was, like, some inputs, I mean, mostly B and, UTAM and Prana, but, there’s, I feel like,

172 00:20:16.580 00:20:35.899 Miranda Wen: related to you, I just wanted to, like, to, if you have time, can you just, like, go over this, and also the product plan that I set, for example, this, where I have done, like, where I have, like, edited and make it, like, more clear in the doc, and if you think it’s go, like, I think, like, I’ll get a sign-off from you.

173 00:20:37.090 00:20:42.079 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I’ll go and take a look at it. It’s part of the message that you sent out earlier, right?

174 00:20:42.080 00:20:51.130 Miranda Wen: Yes, yes, it’s in the Slack that I add, like, use 3, and the name… the link is just, like, the product plan, the feedback tracker, yeah.

175 00:20:51.130 00:20:52.299 Rico Rejoso: Okay, okay, yeah.

176 00:20:52.300 00:20:52.670 Miranda Wen: platform.

177 00:20:52.670 00:20:58.390 Rico Rejoso: I got… I swamped with us sometimes, but I’ll go and take a look at it.

178 00:20:58.790 00:21:00.579 Miranda Wen: Yeah, no worries, no worries.

179 00:21:02.190 00:21:06.090 Miranda Wen: Cool, yeah, thank you so much, Rico, thank you so much for your time, yeah.

180 00:21:06.680 00:21:09.009 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, no worries, thank you so much, this is great.

181 00:21:09.300 00:21:20.070 Miranda Wen: Yeah, thank you so much for the feedback, especially about, like, where they tweaked the skills and all that. I haven’t… I don’t think I have tweaked anyone’s skills, but yeah, that’s… that’s a very, very good feedback, yeah.

182 00:21:20.300 00:21:23.910 Rico Rejoso: Yeah, I did it a few times already, since I got pissed off at least with mine.

183 00:21:24.130 00:21:35.170 Miranda Wen: I bet, okay. Yeah, sorry to hear that, and hopefully in the future when we have this, bring forward work literal audit can be resolved.

184 00:21:35.510 00:21:38.959 Miranda Wen: Yeah, and also a quick question for the operations team,

185 00:21:39.260 00:21:42.100 Miranda Wen: How many… there’s two people on the team, right?

186 00:21:42.260 00:21:43.220 Miranda Wen: It’s you…

187 00:21:43.220 00:21:45.080 Rico Rejoso: Liza, me.

188 00:21:46.070 00:21:51.990 Rico Rejoso: I’m not sure, but Kayla is under people operations or recruitment, but I consider her part of the operations as well.

189 00:21:52.180 00:21:56.990 Miranda Wen: Oh, I see, I see, okay, good to know. Okay. Thank you so much, Rico. Have a great day.

190 00:21:56.990 00:21:58.680 Rico Rejoso: Alright, thank you, Miranda, have a good one.

191 00:21:58.680 00:22:00.779 Miranda Wen: Okay, bye, have a great thing, yeah.