Meeting Title: Awaish - Brylle - L&D Check-In Date: 2026-04-10 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Awaish Kumar


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1 00:02:07.250 00:02:07.940 Brylle Girang: Hello!

2 00:02:07.940 00:02:08.789 Awaish Kumar: Hi.

3 00:02:09.370 00:02:10.779 Awaish Kumar: Hi, how you doing?

4 00:02:10.960 00:02:15.169 Brylle Girang: Good, good, I’m excited for the weekend. Do you have any plans?

5 00:02:16.560 00:02:23.539 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, not… Like, any fixed plan, but see, we’ll see, like, when it… when time comes.

6 00:02:23.810 00:02:27.920 Brylle Girang: I hope you get some time to enjoy and relax, Amish.

7 00:02:28.420 00:02:34.640 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I’m more like, kind of a sudden planner, so, like.

8 00:02:34.640 00:02:36.600 Brylle Girang: Oh, okay.

9 00:02:37.550 00:02:41.809 Brylle Girang: So you’re always, like, spontaneous when it comes to planning.

10 00:02:42.600 00:02:43.470 Brylle Girang: That’s cool.

11 00:02:43.470 00:02:49.250 Awaish Kumar: When it comes to going out or something, like, it’s mainly when I plan in advance, it’s…

12 00:02:49.360 00:02:50.890 Awaish Kumar: Never going to happen.

13 00:02:52.700 00:03:06.459 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I feel the same, especially when it’s planned with friends, right? You plan for 3 months, and it doesn’t go through, and you don’t plan anything, and suddenly you’re…

14 00:03:06.610 00:03:14.010 Brylle Girang: You’re on a weekend. Good! So, this is going to be, like, just…

15 00:03:14.400 00:03:28.710 Brylle Girang: me checking in as part of my L&D initiative, Learning and Development, and just trying to get a sense of, you know, our baselines when it comes to how well we adopt our platforms, the skills, a cursor, etc.

16 00:03:29.040 00:03:30.359 Brylle Girang: I know that…

17 00:03:31.140 00:03:43.709 Brylle Girang: You’re the data engineering god here, so I wanted to get some ideas on, you know, how we can help the data engineering team be a lot better when it comes to using our tools. Sound good?

18 00:03:44.140 00:03:50.250 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, sounds good, and also, like, I’ve already started Pushing skills?

19 00:03:50.410 00:03:54.389 Awaish Kumar: For that, like, we have a data diff… Skills already out.

20 00:03:55.340 00:03:58.489 Awaish Kumar: almost read, like… It, it will…

21 00:03:58.790 00:04:01.670 Awaish Kumar: It will become mature with the time, so…

22 00:04:01.670 00:04:02.200 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

23 00:04:02.200 00:04:05.129 Awaish Kumar: I have some base checks out, then, like, I…

24 00:04:06.210 00:04:14.669 Awaish Kumar: As it grows, we get feedback, or we understand, add more metrics into it, but it’s, like, something that is working.

25 00:04:15.030 00:04:17.920 Awaish Kumar: as part of PR check, it comments?

26 00:04:18.519 00:04:21.930 Awaish Kumar: makes the comments on the PRs that, okay, what’s,

27 00:04:22.450 00:04:24.850 Awaish Kumar: Differences, so it’s, like, kind of a…

28 00:04:25.540 00:04:28.259 Awaish Kumar: one of the skills that I’ve pushed recently

29 00:04:28.470 00:04:31.840 Awaish Kumar: Then… quite a few. Yeah, also quite a few.

30 00:04:32.420 00:04:35.710 Awaish Kumar: playbooks for Snowflake setup.

31 00:04:36.000 00:04:38.979 Awaish Kumar: snow piping, right? These are kind of…

32 00:04:39.330 00:04:42.260 Awaish Kumar: I haven’t made them skills in a way, because…

33 00:04:42.690 00:04:47.860 Awaish Kumar: Like, what I was learning about playbook versus skills, what can be just a playbook, and what can be a…

34 00:04:47.860 00:04:48.370 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

35 00:04:48.600 00:04:49.910 Awaish Kumar: converted into skill.

36 00:04:51.670 00:04:56.779 Awaish Kumar: Seems like, like, This data riff kind of thing is, like, automated, like.

37 00:04:56.950 00:05:01.400 Awaish Kumar: It happens, like, it doesn’t need any user input, so it’s kind of a skill.

38 00:05:01.690 00:05:07.680 Awaish Kumar: But when it comes to, like, snow piping, it might require quite a bit of user inputs, right?

39 00:05:07.680 00:05:08.620 Brylle Girang: Yeah,

40 00:05:08.620 00:05:10.250 Awaish Kumar: Can’t be completely automated.

41 00:05:10.840 00:05:11.240 Brylle Girang: Yes.

42 00:05:11.240 00:05:15.250 Awaish Kumar: Playbook, which has the inputs, which has the

43 00:05:15.780 00:05:28.460 Awaish Kumar: like the… what you say, when you write a Python code which asks for 6 user inputs, right? So it’s kind of like that. So it will ask you for all those inputs, so it’s kind of automated, but it’s still

44 00:05:28.600 00:05:35.299 Awaish Kumar: until a user gives those inputs, it will not move forward, so I just made the playbook.

45 00:05:37.120 00:05:40.139 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I bet. So, yeah.

46 00:05:40.140 00:05:49.260 Brylle Girang: I have been seeing it… I have been seeing the things that you’re shipping, and I’m really, really happy that you’re ramping up.

47 00:05:49.300 00:06:01.379 Brylle Girang: I guess when we… when we discussed the skills earlier, it was like you were a little hesitant, because you were, not 100% sure, like, what the agent will do.

48 00:06:01.510 00:06:07.150 Brylle Girang: how it will process the skills, etc. But now it looks like you’re…

49 00:06:07.550 00:06:12.009 Brylle Girang: you’re more comfortable with that. Can you tell me more about it? Like, what changed?

50 00:06:12.260 00:06:19.900 Awaish Kumar: I’m kind of a… like, yeah, obviously, I’m…

51 00:06:20.280 00:06:30.069 Awaish Kumar: kind of concern in a way is that, okay, without user input, like, we talked about data platform documentation. Yeah. I was concerned, like, if I just…

52 00:06:30.680 00:06:32.670 Awaish Kumar: Most of the changes, and…

53 00:06:32.860 00:06:44.119 Awaish Kumar: it messes up, right? Then what happens? It’s a big document. It will be very hard for me to go and then review everything and see if it is correct, like, everything is in place.

54 00:06:44.120 00:06:44.650 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

55 00:06:45.830 00:06:50.799 Awaish Kumar: So I’ve tried, like, last time also, I tried to, like, create a copy of document and things like that.

56 00:06:51.350 00:07:06.730 Awaish Kumar: But, yeah, I’m trying to enforce those. So recently, like, the Snowflake one is, like, based on user input, it creates commands that can be executed in one go. I can make it automated, like, it can go execute, but I have made a…

57 00:07:07.090 00:07:14.480 Awaish Kumar: Like, the restricted agent to specifically ask user for approval.

58 00:07:14.830 00:07:23.150 Awaish Kumar: Before applying, right? So it will create everything for you, but it will wait for your approval, final approval, until you approve it.

59 00:07:23.380 00:07:27.220 Awaish Kumar: Right? You… so, it will give you, like, it gives me a little bit of…

60 00:07:27.430 00:07:36.979 Awaish Kumar: Really, if I can now go look at the… what changes it’s going to make, and what, like, commands it’s going to run.

61 00:07:37.180 00:07:41.699 Awaish Kumar: So, once I’m satisfied, I can just say approve, and it doesn’t make change.

62 00:07:42.300 00:07:52.909 Brylle Girang: Okay, okay, so it looks like what’s going to work for you is if you’re still, like, the final person who will push the button to do… for the AI to do something.

63 00:07:53.120 00:07:54.210 Brylle Girang: Okay.

64 00:07:54.910 00:07:57.100 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, in some cases, not all.

65 00:07:57.430 00:07:59.869 Awaish Kumar: Right, so data diff… it doesn’t…

66 00:08:00.390 00:08:05.759 Awaish Kumar: I don’t need approval, like, nobody needs… need to give approval, because it just does something.

67 00:08:06.160 00:08:10.960 Awaish Kumar: And the… some… find some metrics, and post it on PR.

68 00:08:12.190 00:08:17.610 Awaish Kumar: It doesn’t make me… Anxious about it, because even if a metric is

69 00:08:18.040 00:08:23.030 Awaish Kumar: not calculated well, it’s okay, right? It’s just a metric I can go verify after that, but…

70 00:08:23.030 00:08:23.500 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

71 00:08:23.500 00:08:32.189 Awaish Kumar: and see if it makes sense or not, but… so that is a completely automated case where you can just rely on AI to

72 00:08:32.360 00:08:33.580 Awaish Kumar: to do its part.

73 00:08:34.080 00:08:42.720 Awaish Kumar: When it comes to actually making changes, which are, like, really changes in production, like, once done, it will be hard to restore.

74 00:08:43.330 00:08:44.860 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

75 00:08:45.460 00:08:46.210 Awaish Kumar: anxious.

76 00:08:46.410 00:09:05.079 Brylle Girang: Okay, okay. I think, you know, we have lots of progress here, like, 2 weeks ago, you were really anxious about the skills, and then now you’re building the skills yourself, you’re also building the playbooks, that is really amazing. Now, I also wanted to, you know, learn and understand more about

77 00:09:05.090 00:09:11.239 Brylle Girang: the other challenges that you’re having. Let’s… let’s forget about skills, and let’s, like, look

78 00:09:11.620 00:09:15.019 Brylle Girang: at what we’re doing in Brainforge.

79 00:09:15.270 00:09:27.639 Brylle Girang: So, I want to learn more about what you think is becoming hard for you to, like, adopt, or hard for you to follow through. I’m going to give an example, just so that you can… maybe it can help you think.

80 00:09:27.800 00:09:33.949 Brylle Girang: Zoran, earlier I had a call with Zoran, and one of the main challenges that he’s experiencing is that

81 00:09:34.180 00:09:40.989 Brylle Girang: We have been building, like, the skills, we have been building PRs, we have been shipping updates.

82 00:09:41.240 00:09:46.289 Brylle Girang: And then he doesn’t have enough time to, like, go through all of those.

83 00:09:46.390 00:09:49.410 Brylle Girang: And try to test it out by themselves.

84 00:09:49.720 00:09:54.160 Brylle Girang: So, his main problem is that we’re building lots of stuff, he can’t keep up.

85 00:09:54.320 00:09:56.550 Brylle Girang: With the changes.

86 00:09:57.040 00:09:58.869 Brylle Girang: So, does that make sense?

87 00:09:59.910 00:10:07.710 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, that… that’s the… Yeah, that’s the problem. That’s why I was thinking of…

88 00:10:07.980 00:10:14.149 Awaish Kumar: like, I saw Tom’s, decent… message on Slack about Trace.

89 00:10:14.640 00:10:21.149 Awaish Kumar: he was trying to create traces of some things. Yeah. I also competed there, I need that, because,

90 00:10:21.970 00:10:24.500 Awaish Kumar: I mean, like, it will be a good, like.

91 00:10:24.770 00:10:27.820 Awaish Kumar: kind of changes we are making right now with AI.

92 00:10:28.360 00:10:31.559 Awaish Kumar: And if we have a price of things, like, for example, we have a

93 00:10:31.960 00:10:34.200 Awaish Kumar: In Karsal, we have initiative, right?

94 00:10:34.430 00:10:35.000 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

95 00:10:35.000 00:10:38.870 Awaish Kumar: If I… create,

96 00:10:40.540 00:10:45.989 Awaish Kumar: And an initiative, we have a project. Under project, we have a milestone, then ticket, and then updates to the ticket.

97 00:10:46.230 00:10:51.900 Awaish Kumar: So, if I have a trace of everything, So, how it went from

98 00:10:52.090 00:10:56.110 Awaish Kumar: initiative, the ticket, and then on the ticket, I get one PR.

99 00:10:56.400 00:10:58.170 Awaish Kumar: Then there’s a change on…

100 00:10:58.530 00:11:04.500 Awaish Kumar: there’s a change request in Slack. I made a change in the PR, and then…

101 00:11:04.750 00:11:11.519 Awaish Kumar: Something else, so it’s… if I… I was thinking of, like, creating some kind of a skill.

102 00:11:11.650 00:11:14.759 Awaish Kumar: Which can help me generate that stress.

103 00:11:15.110 00:11:20.539 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. So it can… and tied to the… The top-level goal, right?

104 00:11:20.540 00:11:21.200 Brylle Girang: Yeah,

105 00:11:21.200 00:11:25.969 Awaish Kumar: There is a modeling change. I made 10… 10 changes

106 00:11:26.360 00:11:30.190 Awaish Kumar: 10 different updates for that model in different times of period.

107 00:11:30.410 00:11:32.590 Awaish Kumar: And we have… and why we did that?

108 00:11:32.770 00:11:38.830 Awaish Kumar: Where was the communication? Maybe it was a request in Slack, it was a request in linear ticket.

109 00:11:39.080 00:11:46.429 Awaish Kumar: Something like that, and then you tie… you can… your ability to tie it to, like, okay, which project it belongs, which initial it belongs.

110 00:11:48.710 00:11:53.720 Awaish Kumar: So I… so yeah, it is in one place, like, I have a… if somebody tomorrow has a question.

111 00:11:53.850 00:11:57.110 Awaish Kumar: I can easily go in… okay, it’s about this.

112 00:11:57.980 00:12:01.699 Awaish Kumar: Model, okay, let’s go see where the traces for that.

113 00:12:01.700 00:12:02.979 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

114 00:12:04.110 00:12:06.629 Brylle Girang: Gotcha, gotcha, okay. And then,

115 00:12:06.990 00:12:12.219 Brylle Girang: How are you using Cursor right now? Like, is it now a main tool that you’re using?

116 00:12:13.450 00:12:16.860 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I’m using it, like, fence.

117 00:12:17.450 00:12:25.160 Awaish Kumar: since… since when Fuji started using cursor, like, I’ve been using cursors for now… now it’s, like, kind of becoming more and more…

118 00:12:26.430 00:12:32.720 Awaish Kumar: rules of AI, playbooks, standardizations, documentation, so everything in cursor.

119 00:12:32.930 00:12:38.639 Awaish Kumar: Obviously, but, yeah, I… I haven’t used, like, any other tool.

120 00:12:39.080 00:12:57.619 Brylle Girang: Okay, great. Yeah, and you know, in the long term, once, you know, we have more DEs that are… that can help you out with the engineering work, I think what you’re doing right now is really good practice, where you’re focusing on the playbooks, you’re focusing on the documentation, and then you can maybe

121 00:12:57.650 00:13:03.749 Brylle Girang: take some hands off when it comes to the engineering work. So, I think you’re on the right path here, Awash.

122 00:13:03.960 00:13:19.260 Brylle Girang: I guess one of the main asks that I will be asking you in this call is that if you think that there are things that we still need to improve in the platform, things that you can build a skill on, etc.

123 00:13:19.340 00:13:33.949 Brylle Girang: when it comes to you maybe learning things, adopting things, those are the things that I want to be looked in, so that we can… I can work with Otam, I can work with the platform team into, you know, making that easier for you.

124 00:13:34.040 00:13:38.569 Brylle Girang: I know that there are lots of client work, and I also want to make sure that

125 00:13:38.750 00:13:46.740 Brylle Girang: you can focus on client work, and at the same time, you can… you can keep up with what Brainforge is building internally.

126 00:13:47.890 00:13:48.669 Brylle Girang: Does that sound good?

127 00:13:49.460 00:13:50.110 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah.

128 00:13:50.280 00:13:51.010 Brylle Girang: Okay.

129 00:13:51.330 00:14:11.190 Brylle Girang: Perfect. I got everything that I need here, Awash. This was a really cool conversation. I really love our progress. It’s really uplifting, and I think the best part here is that you, as the service leader for data engineering, they’re seeing that you’re building this stuff, they’re seeing that you’re using Cursor.

130 00:14:11.330 00:14:17.209 Brylle Girang: It also helps them, like, realize that they should also do whatever you’re doing.

131 00:14:18.060 00:14:19.130 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, yeah, okay.

132 00:14:19.130 00:14:25.240 Brylle Girang: Okay, and then, last thing that I wanted to talk about is about the certifications.

133 00:14:25.340 00:14:33.460 Brylle Girang: So, we are building our quarter alongside the certifications, too, and for the data team.

134 00:14:33.940 00:14:36.720 Brylle Girang: Otam wants us to focus on Snowflake.

135 00:14:37.060 00:14:41.489 Brylle Girang: So that’s Snow Pro Core, and then the Advanced DE certification.

136 00:14:41.590 00:14:47.150 Brylle Girang: I think I need your help there when it comes to, like, pushing that with the data service team, too.

137 00:14:48.270 00:14:53.930 Brylle Girang: And… I think now… My main ask is your commitment

138 00:14:54.140 00:14:59.910 Brylle Girang: When do you think can you start working on the certification? When do you think can you get certified?

139 00:15:01.130 00:15:08.719 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, we have had this communication with Utam for so long, right? About, okay, getting certification done.

140 00:15:08.960 00:15:12.760 Awaish Kumar: But the thing is, like, Right now,

141 00:15:13.050 00:15:16.919 Awaish Kumar: getting certification is not a problem. Problem is the time, right? We… Yeah.

142 00:15:17.300 00:15:22.940 Awaish Kumar: Like, and even before this, like, it was even more…

143 00:15:23.180 00:15:30.759 Awaish Kumar: like, pressure, right? So, like, when Ashwini was not there, when… Demi was not there.

144 00:15:30.990 00:15:40.290 Awaish Kumar: like, we were talking about certifications, but the problem is I was not able to get some time. I was already, like, spending maybe more than

145 00:15:41.240 00:15:48.940 Awaish Kumar: my time here, like, more than 8 hours a day actually finishing client work, so I didn’t have any time to…

146 00:15:49.050 00:15:54.819 Awaish Kumar: Focus on certifications. And right now, it’s kind of a similar situation.

147 00:15:55.270 00:16:03.070 Awaish Kumar: So now we have Ashwini, but we have more work, and also… I’m focusing on…

148 00:16:03.750 00:16:08.670 Awaish Kumar: Thinking about, like, service lead roles, responsibilities,

149 00:16:08.890 00:16:12.360 Awaish Kumar: I can start, like, obviously I can start.

150 00:16:12.530 00:16:15.440 Awaish Kumar: But the thing is, like, if I…

151 00:16:16.090 00:16:21.480 Awaish Kumar: if I get time, I can quickly finish it, but it depends, like, if more kind work comes.

152 00:16:21.620 00:16:23.710 Awaish Kumar: And then it gets just slowed down.

153 00:16:25.110 00:16:34.759 Brylle Girang: Okay, okay. So right now, I think you can commit when you finish it, because that all depends on how heavy the client work will be, right?

154 00:16:37.080 00:16:38.020 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I…

155 00:16:38.020 00:16:38.590 Brylle Girang: Okay.

156 00:16:38.590 00:16:40.989 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I can… no, I can…

157 00:16:41.370 00:16:43.940 Awaish Kumar: Let’s start with Snow Core, I think.

158 00:16:44.550 00:16:45.050 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

159 00:16:45.610 00:16:47.880 Awaish Kumar: Right? And that is the first one, right? Snow…

160 00:16:48.240 00:16:51.039 Brylle Girang: So, Procore, yes. So that’s…

161 00:16:51.040 00:16:51.510 Awaish Kumar: I’ll go.

162 00:16:51.510 00:17:04.569 Brylle Girang: So, there are two main certifications needed for data engineering. Snow Pro Core, which is, like, the prerequisite, and then Snow Pro Advanced Data Engineering, which is the specialized certification. So, we need both.

163 00:17:04.579 00:17:06.929 Awaish Kumar: Let’s start with Snow Pro Cold.

164 00:17:07.119 00:17:13.699 Awaish Kumar: As soon as by… Tomorrow, I can look at something, like, on the weekend…

165 00:17:13.700 00:17:14.240 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

166 00:17:15.000 00:17:16.670 Awaish Kumar: Hopefully, maybe.

167 00:17:16.970 00:17:18.349 Awaish Kumar: maybe sometime

168 00:17:20.079 00:17:27.680 Awaish Kumar: I don’t know, I have to look at the table of content, what… how much it is, but, yeah, maybe by next month, I can…

169 00:17:28.040 00:17:29.370 Awaish Kumar: Try to take an exam.

170 00:17:30.340 00:17:33.090 Brylle Girang: Okay, that… by next month, did I hear that correctly?

171 00:17:33.650 00:17:36.129 Awaish Kumar: Like, somewhere in the next month, yeah.

172 00:17:36.130 00:17:53.659 Brylle Girang: Okay, okay, gotcha, okay. I think, I’m going to be keeping tabs on this, maybe on a weekly basis. I just want to make sure that, you know, we can support you. I can ask Utam to, like, give you time to focus on this and support you if you need that, but at the end of the day.

173 00:17:53.660 00:18:02.159 Brylle Girang: Otum wants this to happen, because we… us getting certified means that we can get more clients, you know? Clients will trust us more.

174 00:18:02.350 00:18:11.919 Brylle Girang: But at the same time, if you focus on certifications too much, we risk the client work, so I just want to make sure that we can support you on that.

175 00:18:12.160 00:18:16.929 Brylle Girang: But I’m also going to do the same with… I think Ashwini has more time.

176 00:18:17.150 00:18:28.069 Brylle Girang: I saw that you… when you finish allocations, he had, like, 10 hours left, so I think he has more time, so I’m going to push him further on the certifications, but…

177 00:18:28.690 00:18:34.289 Awaish Kumar: I wanted… to maybe… yeah, let’s see, I wanted to…

178 00:18:35.350 00:18:38.889 Awaish Kumar: bring him on. Yeah. More clients, so…

179 00:18:39.060 00:18:41.810 Awaish Kumar: So I get some time, yeah, let’s see how it goes.

180 00:18:41.810 00:18:48.749 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, I think 2 hours per week will get us lots, so I think that’s going to be enough.

181 00:18:49.240 00:18:50.760 Brylle Girang: But yeah, okay.

182 00:18:50.890 00:18:53.430 Brylle Girang: Thank you! Thank you so much, Awish. It was nice to meet you.

183 00:18:53.430 00:18:56.899 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I saw there was some data…

184 00:18:57.110 00:19:00.879 Awaish Kumar: On the data platform documentation, there is, on the data…

185 00:19:01.070 00:19:09.000 Awaish Kumar: sorry, in the platform, actually, with some links that were shared by you, I think, right?

186 00:19:09.370 00:19:12.929 Brylle Girang: Yeah, so, I’m also going to share my screen quick.

187 00:19:12.940 00:19:31.430 Brylle Girang: So, the main thing that I wanted to do is that I don’t just want us to tell people that, hey, finish the certificates. I want it to be as easy, or I think easier than before, and I wanted to give you, like, everything that you need

188 00:19:31.520 00:19:39.599 Brylle Girang: to… to finish this as quickly as possible. So, we have the certifications, page in the platform.

189 00:19:39.990 00:19:48.410 Brylle Girang: I added here the possible learning materials that you can use based on whatever I have also researched.

190 00:19:48.900 00:19:53.929 Brylle Girang: And then it also has all the steps that you need, like, to do everything from scratch.

191 00:19:54.040 00:19:58.149 Brylle Girang: So, I hope this saves time when it comes to, like, figuring out what you need to do.

192 00:19:58.370 00:20:04.009 Brylle Girang: Where do you… where do you need to study, etc, and just focus on actually doing the certification?

193 00:20:04.230 00:20:10.069 Brylle Girang: So, take a look at this once you have time, and then, you know, this can guide you from end to end.

194 00:20:10.630 00:20:11.400 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

195 00:20:11.990 00:20:14.410 Awaish Kumar: Okay, and how much is the…

196 00:20:16.490 00:20:19.570 Brylle Girang: the… The time or the bonus?

197 00:20:22.270 00:20:29.009 Awaish Kumar: No, I mean, okay, I will look at this, there is a… Study guide and everything. Okay.

198 00:20:29.010 00:20:37.410 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, so the exam will take 115 minutes, but obviously the study would take more than that, I think 20 hours.

199 00:20:37.410 00:20:41.469 Awaish Kumar: What is… like, is it a… MCQs-based questions, or what?

200 00:20:42.010 00:20:45.209 Brylle Girang: Oh, there is a practice exam here that you can also take.

201 00:20:45.400 00:20:47.530 Brylle Girang: So, this can help you when it comes to.

202 00:20:47.530 00:20:50.310 Awaish Kumar: Oh, yeah, you mentioned 100 questions, that’s… that’s…

203 00:20:51.060 00:20:52.350 Brylle Girang: Oh, sorry, Nana.

204 00:20:52.490 00:20:55.550 Brylle Girang: 115 minutes for 100 questions, yes.

205 00:20:55.550 00:20:58.109 Awaish Kumar: That’s why I was saying, is it MCQs?

206 00:20:58.920 00:21:02.000 Awaish Kumar: kind of, I think, like, the exam, it seems…

207 00:21:02.380 00:21:05.580 Awaish Kumar: It seems like there, because 100 questions in the…

208 00:21:05.740 00:21:11.939 Awaish Kumar: And one 20 minutes can only be, like, kind of… like, multiple choice, yeah. Okay.

209 00:21:12.270 00:21:16.080 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, so it’s multiple select multiple choice, and there’s also interactive.

210 00:21:16.630 00:21:17.230 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

211 00:21:18.160 00:21:18.900 Brylle Girang: Alright.

212 00:21:18.900 00:21:20.639 Awaish Kumar: Hello, thanks.

213 00:21:20.780 00:21:22.600 Brylle Girang: Thank you, thank you so much, Aish.

214 00:21:22.930 00:21:24.850 Brylle Girang: Have a good weekend. Bye-bye.