Meeting Title: Brainforge Element Pilot Weekly Update Date: 2026-04-09 Meeting participants: Greg Stoutenburg, Robert Tseng
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1 00:00:29.140 ⇒ 00:00:30.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, good morning.
2 00:00:30.300 ⇒ 00:00:31.420 Robert Tseng: Hey, mornin’.
3 00:00:33.170 ⇒ 00:00:34.510 Greg Stoutenburg: We’re cooking on Element.
4 00:00:34.870 ⇒ 00:00:38.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we’re trying, trying to.
5 00:00:38.970 ⇒ 00:00:40.810 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah,
6 00:00:41.400 ⇒ 00:00:56.890 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, cool. No, I just saw your comment. Yeah, I had asked Utom yesterday, I was like… I was like, I need clarity on, like, am I the person to review spec with Shivani, or dashboards? Like, I… I don’t know. So I was, like, reluctant to take the call with her, then I was like, well, someone has to.
7 00:00:57.140 ⇒ 00:00:59.919 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, no, I… yeah, I… I think…
8 00:01:00.270 ⇒ 00:01:19.950 Robert Tseng: I think you and Utam are kind of stuck in this role for another… it’ll probably take, like, one or two more weeks before you can really step away from it, so… Yeah, like, I’m trying to get… insert myself into the day-to-day, and then I’m just trying to ramp Garrett and Jasmine as fast as I can. Yeah.
9 00:01:19.950 ⇒ 00:01:21.139 Robert Tseng: So yeah, pulp.
10 00:01:21.540 ⇒ 00:01:28.250 Robert Tseng: Yep, so yes, thank you for… for stepping in for now. But yes, that’s… that is not the… that is not what we want in the…
11 00:01:28.250 ⇒ 00:01:28.800 Greg Stoutenburg: How’s the goal.
12 00:01:28.800 ⇒ 00:01:29.999 Robert Tseng: In the near future, yeah.
13 00:01:30.000 ⇒ 00:01:37.820 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. So, just so I understand, so what… what is Garrett’s role on this project, and then maybe just, like, at Brainforge generally?
14 00:01:37.980 ⇒ 00:01:39.830 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, he’s project managing.
15 00:01:39.950 ⇒ 00:01:54.879 Robert Tseng: Okay. Yeah. I mean, I will call him, like, Senior Strategy Lead or something, but, like, functionally, I think he’s a PM dedicated to Elements. Yeah, but then I think, like, kind of why we opted to bring him in was, I think.
16 00:01:54.980 ⇒ 00:02:03.570 Robert Tseng: he’s quite AI-forward, and just can maybe raise the bar and standards for, like, the artifacts that we have, as you’ve seen across different clients, like.
17 00:02:04.240 ⇒ 00:02:07.280 Robert Tseng: Every spec and dog we use is just inconsistent, so…
18 00:02:07.280 ⇒ 00:02:07.720 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
19 00:02:07.720 ⇒ 00:02:19.890 Robert Tseng: I kind of want him to just help, kind of, like, manage… manage that. Cool. We had Bree… we had Bryle doing that, but I just don’t think he has the experience. I don’t think he knows what good looks like, so…
20 00:02:19.890 ⇒ 00:02:33.939 Robert Tseng: I think he was, like, a good, like, fire starter, but, like, wasn’t able to really raise the bar on, like, things, which… we moved him to learning and development, so he’s not really doing, you know, delivering PM work anymore. Okay. And we thought we needed to bring in somebody, more senior.
21 00:02:34.870 ⇒ 00:02:39.680 Greg Stoutenburg: Got it. Okay, that explains why, he stopped touching linear.
22 00:02:40.560 ⇒ 00:02:41.180 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
23 00:02:41.180 ⇒ 00:02:41.510 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
24 00:02:41.510 ⇒ 00:02:42.060 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
25 00:02:42.060 ⇒ 00:02:52.189 Greg Stoutenburg: I was like, it seems like there’s… yeah, it’s changed. Okay, cool. So, for things like, you know, I put up that, you know, I called it a happy hour, because again, I can just see people aren’t updating tickets consistently.
26 00:02:52.190 ⇒ 00:02:52.950 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, I’m gonna…
27 00:02:52.950 ⇒ 00:02:53.600 Greg Stoutenburg: Things like that.
28 00:02:53.600 ⇒ 00:02:56.419 Robert Tseng: meter say that every time you breathe the Eden, too, so…
29 00:02:56.420 ⇒ 00:03:00.480 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s right, like, what’s the deal with this? This is 3 weeks old. Yeah,
30 00:03:00.630 ⇒ 00:03:17.359 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, well, yeah, it’ll help with things like making decks, because I’ve got to try to very quickly make a deck update, and it’s pulling in things that are… it says it’s in progress, and I know we finished it 3 weeks ago, I’m like, something didn’t mark to do. Anyway, okay, so for things like, discipline around that, for things like…
31 00:03:17.600 ⇒ 00:03:24.630 Greg Stoutenburg: talking to the client about, you know, like, reviewing a spec doc, for example. That’s gonna move to.
32 00:03:24.630 ⇒ 00:03:25.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
33 00:03:25.210 ⇒ 00:03:25.940 Greg Stoutenburg: To Garrett?
34 00:03:25.940 ⇒ 00:03:26.670 Robert Tseng: move to Garrett.
35 00:03:26.670 ⇒ 00:03:27.969 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, alright, got it.
36 00:03:27.970 ⇒ 00:03:37.669 Robert Tseng: Well, Garrett, Jasmine, me, it should be, like, the day of… like, the day-to-day point of contact for Shivani. She wants a random call, it’s gonna be either probably me or me or Jasmine,
37 00:03:37.670 ⇒ 00:03:37.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
38 00:03:37.990 ⇒ 00:03:54.830 Robert Tseng: I mean, ideally, eventually, it’ll be Jasmine Garrett, but, yeah, I think that’s… want to keep Utom isolated from this. He’s just only going to be doing engineering work, and he’s got to pick up on other projects. And then, like, for you, you know, I want you to also take up other… other projects, too.
39 00:03:54.830 ⇒ 00:03:55.770 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, okay, yeah.
40 00:03:55.770 ⇒ 00:03:56.230 Robert Tseng: Yes.
41 00:03:56.230 ⇒ 00:04:02.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Well, yeah, I mean, so for… for this, the… I mean, the only project for me that’s been scoped out for Element is just doing this pilot, is just getting to that.
42 00:04:02.490 ⇒ 00:04:03.190 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah.
43 00:04:03.190 ⇒ 00:04:03.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Ideally.
44 00:04:03.550 ⇒ 00:04:04.190 Robert Tseng: So you’ll be there.
45 00:04:04.190 ⇒ 00:04:06.820 Greg Stoutenburg: next two weeks, so… Okay.
46 00:04:06.820 ⇒ 00:04:07.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
47 00:04:07.210 ⇒ 00:04:25.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright, great. So then, I… I think, correct me if I’m wrong, well, I mean, she’s gonna approve the spec. It’s basically already done, she’s got some comments, wanted to talk about them. And then, that’s for retail. And then for wholesale, we need to hopefully quickly get that in front of her. I hope we can do it in the next… I hope we can do it between now and 2.
48 00:04:25.990 ⇒ 00:04:26.330 Robert Tseng: Okay.
49 00:04:26.330 ⇒ 00:04:32.640 Greg Stoutenburg: about it during the team call. We get her thumbs up on that, her final comments, and then I guess… I guess my role is just…
50 00:04:32.800 ⇒ 00:04:45.140 Greg Stoutenburg: keeping Oddbait on task, and making sure that, you know, the dashboards are being built, quality is high, and, and, you know, you, Garrett, Jasmine, as a team, review that with Shivani.
51 00:04:45.450 ⇒ 00:04:47.399 Greg Stoutenburg: Am I basically right about that?
52 00:04:47.570 ⇒ 00:04:48.390 Robert Tseng: Yep, yep.
53 00:04:48.390 ⇒ 00:04:49.810 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, cool.
54 00:04:51.230 ⇒ 00:04:52.039 Greg Stoutenburg: All right.
55 00:04:53.740 ⇒ 00:05:12.470 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I know it was kind of abrupt, like, things kind of really started to wrap up this week, and then, yeah, we moved… we moved, Amber, she’s pretty much off this project now. Yeah. So yeah, the only dedicated analyst, really, I mean, it’s Jasmine and Advait, but, like, Advait is, like, really the one who’s gonna be doing a lot of the hands-to-key board for now.
56 00:05:12.470 ⇒ 00:05:26.559 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, and yeah, he’s been doing great. I think… so the thing that I discovered yesterday that ended up with, you know, the alarm pull was that we weren’t in the position that I thought we were with wholesale topics, and I guess what happened is just
57 00:05:26.560 ⇒ 00:05:34.710 Greg Stoutenburg: there was just some kind of drop in the handoff from Amber to Advait on… specifically on the wholesale topics, so… Yeah. So…
58 00:05:34.710 ⇒ 00:05:39.119 Robert Tseng: We knew that would happen in some way, just didn’t know what it would be, so… yeah.
59 00:05:39.120 ⇒ 00:05:51.359 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, and yeah, so, yeah, I don’t think it’s, like, specifically anybody’s fault or anything like that, but that’s what happened, and so now it’s like, oh, surprise, I thought we were on track to have, have the, at least
60 00:05:51.360 ⇒ 00:06:07.539 Greg Stoutenburg: first pass of all the dashboards for wholesale retail done by end of week, and I was mistaken about that, or possibly mistaken about that. If we get the wholesale spec approved, Audvate might be able to crank it all out, I mean, in a couple hours tomorrow morning. There’s only 3 dashboards to build in the spec that we’re proposing. Yeah.
61 00:06:07.890 ⇒ 00:06:08.680 Greg Stoutenburg: So…
62 00:06:09.410 ⇒ 00:06:19.789 Robert Tseng: Okay. Yeah, I’m trying to, like, catch myself up on the nuances of, like, this definition, that definition. It’s… it’s a bit hard to find it, honestly, so I think,
63 00:06:19.900 ⇒ 00:06:34.879 Robert Tseng: I mean, I know Ujop’s approach is just, like, fish for everything out of, like, cursor, but, like, I think, you know, I think I care more about, like, having the docs, like, having more standardized docs, so… Yeah. Yeah, there’s probably some… maybe we’ll say conflicting thing, there’s some balance there where, like.
64 00:06:34.880 ⇒ 00:06:40.110 Robert Tseng: I… I can’t… the change management of the definitions, like, I don’t really… I don’t really know what’s going on.
65 00:06:40.110 ⇒ 00:06:41.330 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
66 00:06:41.330 ⇒ 00:06:54.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I can consolidate those. So, I can… because I do know where all of them are, one of the issues that happens is that, a definition will be documented and agreed to, and then, like, Shivani will, like, just make a new spreadsheet, and then…
67 00:06:54.560 ⇒ 00:06:56.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah, she just keeps adding things.
68 00:06:56.450 ⇒ 00:06:56.860 Greg Stoutenburg: all of a sudden.
69 00:06:56.860 ⇒ 00:06:57.220 Robert Tseng: 10 years.
70 00:06:57.220 ⇒ 00:07:04.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Slack, it is, like, a new workbook you’ve never seen before, and it’s like, oh, this is like, okay, well, I’m not even sure this is consistent with what we agreed on, but…
71 00:07:04.550 ⇒ 00:07:05.220 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
72 00:07:05.220 ⇒ 00:07:11.659 Greg Stoutenburg: I can consolidate those. Yes, I can consolidate those. I think that would be my part.
73 00:07:11.840 ⇒ 00:07:16.840 Greg Stoutenburg: And… let’s see, what else? Yeah, okay.
74 00:07:16.840 ⇒ 00:07:31.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, so I’ve, like, I’ve been clicking through everything. I mean, this is still supposed to… this is, like, terribly ugly, but, like, this is supposed to be what our consolidated doc is. I mean, we…
75 00:07:32.310 ⇒ 00:07:49.270 Robert Tseng: we outlined this with Shivani, she never ended up turning into anything, which is fine. Yeah, I just want to know if we’re gonna… if we’re gonna, like, really be a stickler about, like, trying to… pushing everything here, or if we’re just gonna… because otherwise you’re just gonna continue to fan out, like you said, we’re just gonna have a bunch of different random sheets, so… Yeah.
76 00:07:49.270 ⇒ 00:08:04.240 Greg Stoutenburg: So, we’ve been saying that the linear initiative is the source of truth for timeline and what’s being delivered. Yeah. According to that initiative, resale and wholesale dashboards and topics are finished end of day tomorrow.
77 00:08:04.460 ⇒ 00:08:08.300 Greg Stoutenburg: And get QA’d with Shivani next week.
78 00:08:09.570 ⇒ 00:08:11.560 Robert Tseng: Yeah, okay, by initiatives, like…
79 00:08:11.560 ⇒ 00:08:13.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Up at the top, yeah, there.
80 00:08:14.900 ⇒ 00:08:16.189 Robert Tseng: And.
81 00:08:16.190 ⇒ 00:08:23.689 Greg Stoutenburg: So, B set this up, and you’ll have to look up Element Omni. It’ll just be somewhere in this long list.
82 00:08:26.900 ⇒ 00:08:27.500 Robert Tseng: Okay.
83 00:08:27.500 ⇒ 00:08:29.010 Greg Stoutenburg: Down at the bottom there, yep.
84 00:08:29.660 ⇒ 00:08:30.320 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
85 00:08:31.860 ⇒ 00:08:32.399 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep, and then…
86 00:08:32.400 ⇒ 00:08:34.740 Robert Tseng: But this is not tied to a pro- or it is tied.
87 00:08:34.740 ⇒ 00:08:41.509 Greg Stoutenburg: Well, it is, it’s just… this is… linear just kind of sucks here. So, if you click the middle project.
88 00:08:41.730 ⇒ 00:08:44.950 Greg Stoutenburg: OmniPilot topics and draft dashboards.
89 00:08:45.280 ⇒ 00:08:54.559 Greg Stoutenburg: This is where we’re at now, and then if you scroll down, there will be milestones inside of this project. If you click the issues, you’ll get the issues list here. So…
90 00:08:54.670 ⇒ 00:08:57.580 Greg Stoutenburg: Pilot Live.
91 00:08:57.990 ⇒ 00:09:03.450 Greg Stoutenburg: is the one that says 14 issues. That’s where basically all… that’s where nearly all of the work is.
92 00:09:05.170 ⇒ 00:09:05.590 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
93 00:09:05.590 ⇒ 00:09:14.060 Greg Stoutenburg: So, if you go to… Yeah, in progress, create retail dashboard, train blobby,
94 00:09:14.760 ⇒ 00:09:25.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Train Blobby… it was hard to put a date on that one, because we did… the order of operations was Retail Topic, Retail Dashboards, Wholesale Topic, Wholesale dashboards.
95 00:09:26.240 ⇒ 00:09:26.629 Robert Tseng: You too.
96 00:09:26.630 ⇒ 00:09:28.799 Greg Stoutenburg: It’s hard to represent that as rolled out, but…
97 00:09:29.360 ⇒ 00:09:36.510 Greg Stoutenburg: The goal had been that the, that the dashboards are done end of this week, and then we review them next week.
98 00:09:36.630 ⇒ 00:09:40.019 Greg Stoutenburg: And that’s… that then shows up on the next milestone.
99 00:09:40.940 ⇒ 00:09:47.919 Robert Tseng: Okay I don’t understand the difference between initiatives and projects, to be honest.
100 00:09:47.920 ⇒ 00:09:52.839 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, an initiative is a group of projects. I think that’s the way… A group of projects, yeah.
101 00:09:52.840 ⇒ 00:09:53.460 Robert Tseng: C.
102 00:09:53.460 ⇒ 00:09:55.610 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, it doesn’t seem that you can make, like.
103 00:09:55.900 ⇒ 00:10:10.350 Greg Stoutenburg: the way linear does dependencies is just confusing, so it doesn’t seem that you can make a project inside of a project, and this is, like, the closest thing they could come up with. And that’s why, annoyingly, when you click the initiative, you don’t see… you can’t, like, get a Gantt view that shows all the issues.
104 00:10:10.350 ⇒ 00:10:10.670 Robert Tseng: Right.
105 00:10:10.670 ⇒ 00:10:12.260 Greg Stoutenburg: to get a Gantt view that shows…
106 00:10:12.260 ⇒ 00:10:12.910 Robert Tseng: the projects…
107 00:10:12.910 ⇒ 00:10:17.929 Greg Stoutenburg: But, you know, there’s only 3 of them, so then that’s… that’s not very informative.
108 00:10:18.320 ⇒ 00:10:19.010 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
109 00:10:20.450 ⇒ 00:10:21.220 Robert Tseng: Huh.
110 00:10:21.750 ⇒ 00:10:29.819 Robert Tseng: Okay, well then this is quite a different view than… because you know how I run Eden, I really just look at projects, so…
111 00:10:29.820 ⇒ 00:10:30.200 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
112 00:10:30.910 ⇒ 00:10:36.590 Greg Stoutenburg: I prefer this. The only disadvantage here is that you can’t see relatedness as effectively, it seems.
113 00:10:37.020 ⇒ 00:10:39.159 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, between projects.
114 00:10:39.160 ⇒ 00:10:44.420 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, but otherwise, yeah, I prefer that as well, because it’s just a more informative view.
115 00:10:45.230 ⇒ 00:10:48.630 Robert Tseng: Yeah, hmm.
116 00:10:49.860 ⇒ 00:10:54.450 Robert Tseng: Okay, that’s kind of a mind-bender for me on this one.
117 00:10:54.570 ⇒ 00:10:56.140 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, that’s fine, I can…
118 00:10:56.140 ⇒ 00:11:02.040 Greg Stoutenburg: Feel free to just take it over. Feel free to take it over and change it. I think… So…
119 00:11:02.530 ⇒ 00:11:07.500 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, I guess the thing, like, zooming out, the thing that really matters for the pilot is,
120 00:11:07.710 ⇒ 00:11:16.989 Greg Stoutenburg: we have… we still have, like, a couple of weeks to wrap it up. And so, there’s a little bit of flex time. Shivani has not really had her foot on the gas.
121 00:11:17.170 ⇒ 00:11:33.799 Greg Stoutenburg: So, as far as, like, the client relationship goes, I think we’re okay there. I’d like to be able to have something confident to say during the 2 o’clock meeting about when the wholesale stuff is going to be done, so we can tell her, you’ll be able to look at all of the dashboards, and get the stakeholders in.
122 00:11:33.980 ⇒ 00:11:46.300 Greg Stoutenburg: to review, and then do any QA work we need to, and get this wrapped up by, you know, hopefully end of next week. But if not the end of next week, to then be able to confidently say, by the following Wednesday, or something like that.
123 00:11:46.700 ⇒ 00:11:47.290 Robert Tseng: Okay.
124 00:11:51.380 ⇒ 00:11:58.609 Robert Tseng: Do you think you’ll be able to get that clarity, by the time we meet? I know this is kind of a scramble, that’s what I’m trying to…
125 00:11:58.610 ⇒ 00:12:13.649 Robert Tseng: change the cadence, like, we need to be doing dry runs the day before, like, similar to Eden, like, deck changes should be made two days before, so we’re, like, if anything, we’re just making adjustments. Obviously, we don’t have any of that discipline right now, but, like, that’s kind of what I’m pushing for. Yeah.
126 00:12:13.670 ⇒ 00:12:25.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so I… it’s kind of, to me, kind of… I’m trying to bring in some of the same discipline on the Eden side, but it’s just, like, the timeline slightly shifted, because we do these weeklies on Thursdays instead.
127 00:12:25.860 ⇒ 00:12:34.109 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Yeah, the, I think that we can… I’m in a chat right now with Jasmine and Edvate, I’ll just CC you.
128 00:12:35.240 ⇒ 00:12:37.489 Greg Stoutenburg: Just so you have it for visibility.
129 00:12:38.360 ⇒ 00:12:39.440 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
130 00:12:40.580 ⇒ 00:12:41.410 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
131 00:12:42.250 ⇒ 00:13:00.129 Robert Tseng: Yeah, okay, so I don’t really want to disrupt the initiatives thing right now, because I feel like that would really throw things off this week, so if anything, yeah, I’ll spend some time with Garrett, just see, kind of, like, his comfort with kind of taking this over. If not, then I can… I can do it. But yeah, really what…
132 00:13:00.290 ⇒ 00:13:07.499 Robert Tseng: Is neat… we need, like, on the… as far as, like, this… tracking stuff goes.
133 00:13:07.940 ⇒ 00:13:14.329 Robert Tseng: the… these need to align to the SOW, which they currently don’t, and I’ve told that to Utam already, like, she…
134 00:13:14.690 ⇒ 00:13:21.949 Robert Tseng: She wants, like, a bottoms-up approach of, like, how the issues end up stacking up to the
135 00:13:21.970 ⇒ 00:13:35.269 Robert Tseng: the SOW, like, kind of, like, work streams that we’ve set up, so that needs to be reorganized already anyway. So I think that’s gonna… I mean, I would prefer those all to be projects, and then any sub-projects are really just milestones.
136 00:13:35.270 ⇒ 00:13:35.880 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
137 00:13:35.880 ⇒ 00:13:43.000 Robert Tseng: instead of doing this initiatives thing, but I guess I’ll figure that out with the team. Yeah, and then, like.
138 00:13:43.300 ⇒ 00:13:48.370 Robert Tseng: I’m basically going to start pushing Garrett to…
139 00:13:49.350 ⇒ 00:14:01.710 Robert Tseng: Well, I know that you’re saying linear is a source of truth for all things, like, kind of, timeline, but as far as, like, logging all the changes that we’re making, we… I want to have, like, more of a centralized intake for requests.
140 00:14:01.820 ⇒ 00:14:07.160 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, I just… you know, Shivani just…
141 00:14:07.560 ⇒ 00:14:10.369 Robert Tseng: She goes through a lot of iterations, and so…
142 00:14:10.370 ⇒ 00:14:10.750 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
143 00:14:10.750 ⇒ 00:14:28.249 Robert Tseng: I don’t… I don’t like it when we get into these conversations with her where, you know, we’re like, oh, that’s not what it was before, and then she’s acting as if, like, we’re, like, dumb or something, and, like, she was always, like, heading in a different direction. It’s like, you know, so I think there’s just some… some more of that that I need to bring in where
144 00:14:28.430 ⇒ 00:14:46.380 Robert Tseng: like, we’re able to really just kind of capture, like, I mean, it’s just, like, logging all the different requests and changes a bit better, even before they make it to linear. So, yeah, so I think those are kind of things that I’m trying to, pouch up this week.
145 00:14:46.550 ⇒ 00:14:54.370 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Something to run to Utam about is that Work in Progress Core Metrics tab, one over.
146 00:14:54.370 ⇒ 00:14:54.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
147 00:14:54.900 ⇒ 00:15:12.410 Greg Stoutenburg: they’ve been putting more stuff there, and I asked the question, like, should we just deprecate this? Deprecate the one that says Core Metrics? I… I need clarity with him on that. I was on a call with Shivani, and I went looking for a definition, and I clicked the Core Metrics tab, and she was like, oh, that’s out of date, we’re using the other one now. I was like, oh, I didn’t realize that.
148 00:15:12.770 ⇒ 00:15:13.090 Robert Tseng: Okay.
149 00:15:13.140 ⇒ 00:15:15.549 Greg Stoutenburg: I would have thought work in progress meant not…
150 00:15:15.960 ⇒ 00:15:20.969 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s unintuitive, or not intuitive, yeah. Yeah. Okay.
151 00:15:20.970 ⇒ 00:15:21.550 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
152 00:15:21.810 ⇒ 00:15:28.759 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. So, that’s the only one I have there. I do think, to the timeline.
153 00:15:29.240 ⇒ 00:15:34.349 Greg Stoutenburg: I do think that the pilot… Lines up with the timeline.
154 00:15:34.560 ⇒ 00:15:36.590 Greg Stoutenburg: In the accelerator dock.
155 00:15:37.120 ⇒ 00:15:44.820 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. But then again, there aren’t calendar dates in the accelerator dock. So, I treated week one as the first week of
156 00:15:45.340 ⇒ 00:15:51.070 Greg Stoutenburg: talking to Shivani about… yeah, you’re in it now. Talking to Shivani about…
157 00:15:52.170 ⇒ 00:15:57.299 Greg Stoutenburg: The project, and let’s see what… Is that the 17th?
158 00:15:59.730 ⇒ 00:16:02.230 Greg Stoutenburg: That was March 11th.
159 00:16:04.310 ⇒ 00:16:05.829 Greg Stoutenburg: 4 weeks ago.
160 00:16:06.950 ⇒ 00:16:10.890 Greg Stoutenburg: So… If the week of March 11th is…
161 00:16:11.190 ⇒ 00:16:14.219 Greg Stoutenburg: Week 1, then we’re now in week 5.
162 00:16:14.770 ⇒ 00:16:15.360 Greg Stoutenburg: in the.
163 00:16:15.360 ⇒ 00:16:15.740 Robert Tseng: I see.
164 00:16:15.740 ⇒ 00:16:21.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Which would be… Yeah, one week out from the conclusion of the pilot.
165 00:16:21.910 ⇒ 00:16:28.180 Greg Stoutenburg: And then the deliverable for the pilot is…
166 00:16:29.580 ⇒ 00:16:33.539 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, dashboards for… yeah, dashboards for retail and wholesale.
167 00:16:35.120 ⇒ 00:16:35.700 Robert Tseng: Okay.
168 00:16:35.700 ⇒ 00:16:36.340 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
169 00:16:38.080 ⇒ 00:16:44.400 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, so I think that the initiative view, has the timeline?
170 00:16:45.160 ⇒ 00:16:52.119 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m actually glad I’m looking at this right now, because I guess we didn’t commit to building all of the dashboards, did we? We actually just said one to two.
171 00:16:54.270 ⇒ 00:16:54.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
172 00:16:58.260 ⇒ 00:16:59.860 Greg Stoutenburg: So I don’t need to shoot for 3.
173 00:17:01.100 ⇒ 00:17:03.100 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Yeah.
174 00:17:04.260 ⇒ 00:17:05.930 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool.
175 00:17:06.240 ⇒ 00:17:14.889 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think she has a tendency to kind of move the target over and over again, and, like, you know, this was the whole, like, reason… I mean, anyway, so, like, I…
176 00:17:14.890 ⇒ 00:17:30.560 Robert Tseng: I don’t trust her work, which is why we’re being so meticulous with the documentation, because she’s always holding us to standards that, like, are always moving. And so, I mean, I don’t think I will let that fly as much as maybe Udob did in the first couple months of moving with her, working with him.
177 00:17:30.560 ⇒ 00:17:49.199 Robert Tseng: So, yeah, if we’re going to anchor directly to the SOW that’s signed, I want everything to be reflective of that. All the legacy docs, the things that you guys already kind of worked on before then, I guess we just kind of have to honor whatever is here. But it does seem like, yeah, I mean, if you just, you know, just have something to kind of, like, defend against if he’s, like, trying to…
178 00:17:49.200 ⇒ 00:17:51.960 Robert Tseng: push you further than what we agreed, you know, so…
179 00:17:51.960 ⇒ 00:18:02.239 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that sounds good. I mean, if anything, the only thing that I’ve found myself having to defend against is, she just… she has seemed to vary on
180 00:18:02.350 ⇒ 00:18:14.799 Greg Stoutenburg: the meaning of, I’m sending this to you for feedback. Like, treating it sometimes as though… sometimes as though, like, we’re presenting this to the CEO right now, versus this is something that we’ve agreed we’re working on, and we need your comments on it.
181 00:18:15.040 ⇒ 00:18:15.590 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
182 00:18:15.590 ⇒ 00:18:27.879 Greg Stoutenburg: make changes. Yeah. And sometimes it’s like, oh yeah, this is rough, that’s fine, I don’t care, you told me it’s rough, so it’s good. And then other times, it’s like, don’t you understand what this word means? It’s like… Yeah. Easy.
183 00:18:27.880 ⇒ 00:18:29.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
184 00:18:29.130 ⇒ 00:18:33.910 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, cool. Alright, so… I think…
185 00:18:34.710 ⇒ 00:18:38.270 Greg Stoutenburg: So, one of us, and it can be me, I think should reply to this thread with.
186 00:18:38.500 ⇒ 00:18:49.519 Greg Stoutenburg: Avat and Jasmine, and say, hey, if we’ve got the 3 dashboards done for retail already, then just fully pivot over to wholesale right now, and stop working on retail.
187 00:18:49.730 ⇒ 00:18:52.089 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think that’s a… I think that’s fine.
188 00:18:52.090 ⇒ 00:18:52.900 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
189 00:18:53.150 ⇒ 00:18:57.569 Greg Stoutenburg: Should you do that, or should I? I’m still sorting out the roles here.
190 00:18:57.570 ⇒ 00:19:03.119 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I will… I can jump into that thread.
191 00:19:03.570 ⇒ 00:19:04.529 Robert Tseng: Is that here?
192 00:19:04.920 ⇒ 00:19:13.599 Greg Stoutenburg: I just added you to it. It starts with a comment from Jasmine for a daily update. Retail dashboarding, da-da-da-da-da, wholesale topics, wholesale dashboarding.
193 00:19:13.600 ⇒ 00:19:14.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
194 00:19:14.890 ⇒ 00:19:16.039 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, that’s it.
195 00:19:16.040 ⇒ 00:19:19.869 Robert Tseng: Okay. So, yeah, I’m just gonna say we’re gonna… we’re gonna move to wholesale. Okay.
196 00:19:20.840 ⇒ 00:19:21.460 Robert Tseng: Okay.
197 00:19:21.670 ⇒ 00:19:24.279 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool. Awesome. Alright, cool.
198 00:19:24.590 ⇒ 00:19:26.460 Greg Stoutenburg: I don’t know if there were other takeaways.
199 00:19:27.410 ⇒ 00:19:28.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Other follow-ups?
200 00:19:28.950 ⇒ 00:19:35.120 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I… if there’s anything else missing, just let me know, but I know we’re kind of just, like, trying to get organized this week, so…
201 00:19:35.120 ⇒ 00:19:35.470 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
202 00:19:35.470 ⇒ 00:19:40.870 Robert Tseng: Yeah, appreciate you kind of pushing… keeping… keeping things moving, because,
203 00:19:41.140 ⇒ 00:19:44.850 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, clearly you’re the one who knows what’s going on in this pilot right now, so…
204 00:19:44.850 ⇒ 00:19:59.009 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, so ping me whenever. And then I think the last thing was… Jasmine said, like, hey, do we have a deck for today? Usually that would be… I think I made the last one, but Utam has been in the CSO role.
205 00:19:59.190 ⇒ 00:20:02.660 Greg Stoutenburg: For this client, so I think it should be him. I can do it, I mean…
206 00:20:03.170 ⇒ 00:20:07.359 Greg Stoutenburg: I will happily do it. I’m just gonna pull it into Claude and get the update and go from there.
207 00:20:07.720 ⇒ 00:20:11.440 Robert Tseng: Would you mind? This is, like, a weekly update.
208 00:20:11.850 ⇒ 00:20:12.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Just the normal…
209 00:20:12.450 ⇒ 00:20:13.700 Robert Tseng: update deck?
210 00:20:13.860 ⇒ 00:20:20.279 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, weekly update thing. Last week, we barely even touched it, because Shivani really likes to spend time in her 4 bucks.
211 00:20:20.560 ⇒ 00:20:21.330 Robert Tseng: Missing?
212 00:20:21.570 ⇒ 00:20:25.580 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep, I’ll just take that, and I’ll add slides at the beginning. Okay.
213 00:20:26.080 ⇒ 00:20:27.210 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
214 00:20:27.210 ⇒ 00:20:27.880 Robert Tseng: Great.
215 00:20:27.880 ⇒ 00:20:29.849 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool. Alright, I’ll do that right now.
216 00:20:30.390 ⇒ 00:20:38.000 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’ll also be a Garrett thing in the future. Anyway, it’s good. I just want to see everything that’s going on so I know, like, where to, like, kind of, you know, distribute the load.
217 00:20:38.000 ⇒ 00:20:40.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Cool. Okay. Cool.
218 00:20:40.440 ⇒ 00:20:41.379 Robert Tseng: Alright, thanks, Grace.
219 00:20:41.380 ⇒ 00:20:42.449 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright, see ya.