Meeting Title: Eden Standup Date: 2026-04-07 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Robert Tseng, Greg Stoutenburg, Zoran Selinger, Demilade Agboola, Jasmin Multani
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1 00:01:10.430 ⇒ 00:01:11.120 Greg Stoutenburg: Morning.
2 00:01:11.630 ⇒ 00:01:12.750 Robert Tseng: Morning.
3 00:01:16.560 ⇒ 00:01:22.199 Robert Tseng: But, an angel with a halo on your sweater?
4 00:01:24.070 ⇒ 00:01:25.800 Robert Tseng: No. Oh, it’s all… okay.
5 00:01:26.420 ⇒ 00:01:27.130 Robert Tseng: enough.
6 00:01:27.310 ⇒ 00:01:28.639 Greg Stoutenburg: Holy Hound Taproom.
7 00:01:31.280 ⇒ 00:01:34.830 Greg Stoutenburg: local spot, half-priced beers between 4 and 6 every day. Can’t beat it.
8 00:01:34.830 ⇒ 00:01:37.490 Robert Tseng: Oh, I love that. And it’s a cool name, too.
9 00:01:37.630 ⇒ 00:01:39.420 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Alright. Yeah. Yeah.
10 00:01:39.950 ⇒ 00:01:40.850 Greg Stoutenburg: These are on.
11 00:01:41.610 ⇒ 00:01:42.520 Robert Tseng: Hey, guys.
12 00:01:44.720 ⇒ 00:01:45.550 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
13 00:01:45.760 ⇒ 00:01:55.490 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we’ll just kind of get into it. I pushed this meeting back a bit, and I extended it since we only meet twice a week now, so thanks for being flexible there.
14 00:01:55.650 ⇒ 00:02:00.790 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’m still, like… Well, yeah, I mean, we’re…
15 00:02:01.770 ⇒ 00:02:05.149 Robert Tseng: We’re always making… we’re always making adjustments, so…
16 00:02:05.890 ⇒ 00:02:10.009 Robert Tseng: I don’t… I guess I don’t have to justify that.
17 00:02:10.330 ⇒ 00:02:26.380 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so… I mean, I’m not gonna go through the tickets, frankly, on this call, I just want to go through what’s top of mind, and then if anybody’s blocked on anything, I’m hoping we can spend the time discussing it. So maybe I’ll just run through, kind of, my top-of-mind list first, just because…
18 00:02:26.530 ⇒ 00:02:30.509 Robert Tseng: These are things that ELT’s asking for, so pretty important.
19 00:02:30.650 ⇒ 00:02:50.050 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I wish I just kind of tagged you in a few messages. These are related to kind of, like, data modeling changes that need to happen for me to update my, Control Center Google Sheet. So, I don’t know if you got a chance to look through it yet. Yeah, I mean, I’m promising it by Thursday. Do you think that’s possible?
20 00:02:50.750 ⇒ 00:02:56.520 Awaish Kumar: Like, for example, Everflow pipeline, that should be done today.
21 00:02:57.140 ⇒ 00:03:03.190 Awaish Kumar: Then, there is a question. SpendRx. I don’t know what they mean by this, SpendRx.
22 00:03:03.190 ⇒ 00:03:18.339 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, that’s why I kind of tags… or I guess I didn’t tag Zoran in it, but Zoran was working on some, kind of, like, tracking for their… it’s another domain, right? EdenRx or whatever? And, I guess, like.
23 00:03:18.620 ⇒ 00:03:31.599 Robert Tseng: We just don’t know if the spend is being captured there. They’re saying it’s not. They think the spend that we’re having in the control center is too low. I don’t know if it’s because we haven’t finished the setup yet, Zoran, or like… or, I don’t know, maybe they’re just wrong.
24 00:03:32.280 ⇒ 00:03:42.959 Zoran Selinger: So, I only started looking into Eden RX. I, initially, like, that was with Greg. I’m still catching up on that. I just keep putting it off, so I have…
25 00:03:43.950 ⇒ 00:03:49.990 Zoran Selinger: reports that I’ve seen in… in Omni, or Mixpanel, there’s…
26 00:03:50.170 ⇒ 00:03:58.970 Zoran Selinger: there are two widgets that are showing zeros. Everything else has numbers. I’m not sure if those numbers are, okay or not.
27 00:03:59.360 ⇒ 00:04:00.090 Robert Tseng: Okay.
28 00:04:00.500 ⇒ 00:04:01.080 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
29 00:04:03.020 ⇒ 00:04:10.549 Awaish Kumar: Okay, can… so the SpendRx is happening on Google, right?
30 00:04:13.340 ⇒ 00:04:16.399 Awaish Kumar: On the Google Ads, or is it… Summit.
31 00:04:18.519 ⇒ 00:04:21.249 Zoran Selinger: I don’t know the answer to that question, Robert, do you?
32 00:04:21.339 ⇒ 00:04:25.890 Robert Tseng: I do not know. I have not paid attention to anything Eden RX-related, so…
33 00:04:25.890 ⇒ 00:04:26.689 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, okay.
34 00:04:26.690 ⇒ 00:04:27.710 Robert Tseng: It became a surprise to me.
35 00:04:27.710 ⇒ 00:04:33.360 Zoran Selinger: So, you guys see this as… As a me task, then.
36 00:04:33.530 ⇒ 00:04:37.660 Zoran Selinger: Okay? I need to catch up. I need to figure out what’s happening there.
37 00:04:38.270 ⇒ 00:04:39.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
38 00:04:39.770 ⇒ 00:04:45.089 Robert Tseng: Sorry if that was not clear. Just assumed anything spend-related was, like, kind of coming… coming through you.
39 00:04:45.790 ⇒ 00:04:53.140 Zoran Selinger: Okay. Okay. Well, it’ll take me a day or so to figure that out.
40 00:04:53.450 ⇒ 00:04:59.860 Robert Tseng: Okay, I don’t expect there’s… they’re not spending much there yet, probably, so it’s not like… it’s not a huge deal, but…
41 00:04:59.980 ⇒ 00:05:13.250 Robert Tseng: I mean, they do… they do rely on… on my spreadsheet now for them to monitor weekly tracking. And then the other thing that you didn’t mention, so Everflow, I hear you, OH, that’ll be added soon. And then we’re adjusting the week
42 00:05:13.250 ⇒ 00:05:20.710 Robert Tseng: start date, kind of like what we did for Element. They want to start on Sundays now, instead of Mondays, so I kind of need that changed.
43 00:05:20.950 ⇒ 00:05:32.979 Robert Tseng: And then they’re… they want, like, we, they want daily, they want, like, a daily, sheet as well. So, I think we just need… we need to push a daily model.
44 00:05:33.870 ⇒ 00:05:34.580 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
45 00:05:35.110 ⇒ 00:05:35.670 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
46 00:05:35.970 ⇒ 00:05:42.639 Awaish Kumar: Okay, one… yeah, in that piece where there is a requirement for daily model, there’s also a…
47 00:05:42.790 ⇒ 00:05:46.589 Awaish Kumar: They are… they have mentioned in the… in the description.
48 00:05:46.900 ⇒ 00:05:52.150 Awaish Kumar: The message says that Far Joe’s report, he’s still kind of,
49 00:05:52.590 ⇒ 00:06:01.609 Awaish Kumar: not showing the numbers they want. So, we already had a ticket regarding that, and Demilade gave an explanation to Greg on that piece.
50 00:06:01.610 ⇒ 00:06:05.319 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I thought Greg dealt with it, so I just ignored that, so…
51 00:06:06.170 ⇒ 00:06:07.189 Greg Stoutenburg: Sorry, which piece?
52 00:06:07.930 ⇒ 00:06:19.049 Robert Tseng: Like, they’re still saying that the For Josh reports are reporting, like, like, a changing, like, revenue over time. It’s not, like, snapshotted.
53 00:06:22.200 ⇒ 00:06:36.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, they’re still saying that, like, the revenue… yeah, basically the four jobs reports, if you look at the charts every… I mean, I think it’s a misunderstanding thing, like, the chart itself should… is not…
54 00:06:37.220 ⇒ 00:06:47.059 Robert Tseng: is not a snapshot, like, that’s… that’s live data that we’re querying, that we’re running on the day of, but, like, yeah, I think that… that still seems to be unclear to them, which is why they’re mentioning that.
55 00:06:48.120 ⇒ 00:06:49.230 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
56 00:06:49.230 ⇒ 00:07:01.720 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I explained to, like, Greg that the concept of the charts, because of how revenue fluctuates over time, because of, like, refunds, or, like, pending and abandoned orders, like, you know, either settling.
57 00:07:01.940 ⇒ 00:07:15.130 Demilade Agboola: The revenue will change. The only way we can keep it static is if we agree on a time where we’re like, oh, every morning at 6 AM, whatever that revenue value is, will be the value for that day, and that will not change.
58 00:07:15.640 ⇒ 00:07:30.790 Robert Tseng: For that specific report, right? Because obviously there… people are going to actually hit the live dashboard, and it’s going to include all the changes that Dave Milani’s talking about. But for the purposes of the For Josh report, they want it to be a fixed, like, snapshot in time at, like.
59 00:07:30.790 ⇒ 00:07:37.800 Robert Tseng: whenever that job runs, I think it runs at 5 AM or whatever, like, that should just be the time where it runs, and it should just stay fixed from there.
60 00:07:38.900 ⇒ 00:07:48.320 Demilade Agboola: I mean, in that case here, we can try and switch it to the snapshots data, because we… I believe we do have snapshots for, like, revenue, daily revenue, so we could just switch it to that, for that particular chart.
61 00:07:48.320 ⇒ 00:08:03.849 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, it’s, like, just a matter of question, do we want to support it? Like, in the models, we can do that. We can create static snapshots of our fact transaction table, which gives you what was the state at that specific point of… point in time, right?
62 00:08:04.120 ⇒ 00:08:07.250 Awaish Kumar: If we want to support that, we can create those tables.
63 00:08:07.750 ⇒ 00:08:10.670 Awaish Kumar: But it’s just that if you want to do that or no.
64 00:08:11.230 ⇒ 00:08:15.170 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, it seems like that’s what they want, so I think we should just do that.
65 00:08:16.050 ⇒ 00:08:21.960 Demilade Agboola: Also, do we have a particular time in mind? 6 AM every morning, 2AM every morning, like, what time do we.
66 00:08:21.960 ⇒ 00:08:31.039 Robert Tseng: I don’t think they care, it just needs to be consistent. We should just pick the one that… I mean, whenever that… whenever that snapshot… what… when is this… when is the snapshot generated right now?
67 00:08:31.040 ⇒ 00:08:32.490 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s what I was gonna say.
68 00:08:32.490 ⇒ 00:08:37.280 Demilade Agboola: runs every single time dbt runs, because I believe we should have some revenue snapshots now.
69 00:08:37.289 ⇒ 00:08:48.749 Awaish Kumar: The report that we are sending to Slack actually matches with the Tableau Refresh, and it was around maybe… Yeah. Sorry, AM EST, or something like that.
70 00:08:48.989 ⇒ 00:08:49.599 Awaish Kumar: Darn.
71 00:08:49.600 ⇒ 00:09:00.060 Greg Stoutenburg: It looks like it’s scheduled for approximately 5 AM. So just lock it there. Lock it whenever delivery is, so that what’s delivered matches what they will see if they click on it.
72 00:09:00.820 ⇒ 00:09:08.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, you probably have to do it a little earlier, just in case the run doesn’t finish, and then you get delivered, but, like, sure, like, something before 5AM.
73 00:09:08.910 ⇒ 00:09:10.699 Demilade Agboola: Alright, just sorry, okay, around the time, so I began.
74 00:09:10.700 ⇒ 00:09:19.650 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, 4.45, I just checked, it’s scheduled for 4.45 AM. It looks like it doesn’t actually hit Slack until 4.58 most days, as I scroll through for Josh.
75 00:09:19.860 ⇒ 00:09:27.570 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so the snapshot is taken during, like, the dbt run, so I was just trying to find the dbt run that runs, because it runs every hour. The dbt run that runs
76 00:09:27.750 ⇒ 00:09:33.969 Demilade Agboola: preceding that snapshot send, like, the report send, and I will use that value every day to represent.
77 00:09:34.160 ⇒ 00:09:34.940 Demilade Agboola: the revenue.
78 00:09:36.740 ⇒ 00:09:37.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
79 00:09:38.110 ⇒ 00:09:38.790 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
80 00:09:39.560 ⇒ 00:09:44.299 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, I will, okay, yeah, I see Mitesh’s comment,
81 00:09:46.680 ⇒ 00:09:55.579 Greg Stoutenburg: I will note that we’re doing it… I mean, it looks like… actually, Robert, I see that you’re in the thread as of half an hour ago. Do you want to tell them that we’re doing it, or should I jump in here?
82 00:09:55.580 ⇒ 00:09:59.720 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, it’s okay, they already… they already tagged me, so I’m gonna just reply. Okay, yeah.
83 00:09:59.910 ⇒ 00:10:01.960 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I think…
84 00:10:02.670 ⇒ 00:10:13.190 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I mean, they’re kind of flip-flopping on this, like Josh said that the report was fine after you explained it to them two weeks ago, so it looks like they’re back to make the old request again. Yeah.
85 00:10:14.430 ⇒ 00:10:15.430 Greg Stoutenburg: But okay.
86 00:10:16.600 ⇒ 00:10:17.460 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s fine.
87 00:10:18.720 ⇒ 00:10:27.999 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. So that’s all for me from ELT reporting. I think if we make these changes this week, then I think ELT reporting would be in a good enough place for now.
88 00:10:28.650 ⇒ 00:10:45.370 Robert Tseng: Okay, so, kind of moving on, I’m just gonna go up the list, because, I mean, Greg had mentioned a few things. Yeah, regarding, like, for Medica, pharmacy, I’m just, like, kicking that down the line, because, you know, obviously, if we’re gonna do a connector that’s just gonna be on Oasia’s plate, and I feel like…
89 00:10:45.450 ⇒ 00:11:01.729 Robert Tseng: I mean, I’ve been pushing back on it until the AidenOS work is in a good place, so I can tell… we can… we can tell her we’re gonna delay it for another, until… I mean, I guess I need… we need to, like, align on… on time with… with… like, when… when can we… when can we pull that in?
90 00:11:03.930 ⇒ 00:11:04.810 Awaish Kumar: Hmm…
91 00:11:05.600 ⇒ 00:11:15.180 Awaish Kumar: I think in the… maybe next… next week. Okay. Because we don’t, we are now in a phase where it has to be a collaboration between,
92 00:11:15.610 ⇒ 00:11:21.389 Awaish Kumar: like, for example, Jasmine, that is doing dashboard side. So we have… we are…
93 00:11:21.730 ⇒ 00:11:29.069 Awaish Kumar: We have our base models now, and also some models that we could create from the existing
94 00:11:30.120 ⇒ 00:11:37.820 Awaish Kumar: like, they’re looking at the existing models. Now there’s a collaboration between the strategy team and the modeling, so whenever there’s a
95 00:11:38.210 ⇒ 00:11:43.080 Awaish Kumar: Whenever they create a new dashboard and there is a requirement for model updates, that’s what
96 00:11:44.160 ⇒ 00:11:45.550 Awaish Kumar: Like, I’m going to support.
97 00:11:46.800 ⇒ 00:11:58.989 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. So, I mean, I can message it. Yeah, I’ll do all the messaging out of this call, so that’s fine. Like, I can… I’ll let her know that that’s… we’re gonna basically push it out a couple weeks.
98 00:11:59.830 ⇒ 00:12:00.800 Robert Tseng: Okay.
99 00:12:01.000 ⇒ 00:12:07.150 Robert Tseng: I think those are… I mean, what else… what else do people have to bring to this discussion?
100 00:12:07.610 ⇒ 00:12:14.839 Greg Stoutenburg: I just wanted to clarify, so I was looking at the ticket that you put me on, the lead for Eden OS,
101 00:12:15.310 ⇒ 00:12:27.789 Greg Stoutenburg: what’s it called? Telemetry Analytics. And I just sort of wanted to clarify, I just wanted to make sure that I understood correctly from our conversation last week. The… the ask on me is to fix up this tracking plan. So that would be…
102 00:12:28.180 ⇒ 00:12:36.260 Greg Stoutenburg: here, here, here, here, primarily. Relatively light lift, focus on what’s currently at Triaden.com.
103 00:12:37.710 ⇒ 00:12:48.569 Robert Tseng: So, yeah, this, this is, this is now the source of truth for their tracking plan. So, Girish’s team is implementing these events, so…
104 00:12:48.640 ⇒ 00:12:59.199 Robert Tseng: But they do not… they are just code monkeys. They will literally just key in whatever they have, so we… we kind of need to… we’re inheriting this artifact from Adam, because he put.
105 00:12:59.200 ⇒ 00:12:59.670 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
106 00:12:59.670 ⇒ 00:13:05.819 Robert Tseng: He built this because he didn’t feel like we did it, and now he wants us to basically, like, own this, which…
107 00:13:06.210 ⇒ 00:13:14.480 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it was not my preference, because it’s not in our data platform documentation, but we didn’t have anything better, so, like, we’re… I agreed to it, yeah.
108 00:13:14.480 ⇒ 00:13:18.849 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, so… don’t revise this, this is how this is gonna be.
109 00:13:19.080 ⇒ 00:13:21.889 Robert Tseng: Well, I mean, he just AI-generated those events, so…
110 00:13:21.890 ⇒ 00:13:25.790 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s what it looks like. This just… the whole thing looks like just a spreadsheet that was just…
111 00:13:26.240 ⇒ 00:13:27.600 Greg Stoutenburg: Just let it rip.
112 00:13:27.600 ⇒ 00:13:34.289 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so we don’t necessarily need 30 events, so I think this is kind of, like, the time where you… you kind of…
113 00:13:34.850 ⇒ 00:13:43.649 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, the whole tracking plan exercise that maybe you did a while ago, like, this… it’s gotta be… it’s gotta be right now. Just do that.
114 00:13:43.650 ⇒ 00:13:58.499 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, alright, good. Alright, yeah, I just wanna… I just… that’s what I thought, and I just wanted to make sure. Now, because as I looked at this, and this was the primary doc, I thought, alright, this sounds a lot more extensive than, you know, fix the tracking plan, so I just wanted to check in on that.
115 00:13:59.410 ⇒ 00:14:02.759 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, he wanted to understand, like.
116 00:14:02.880 ⇒ 00:14:09.580 Robert Tseng: Well, yeah, this was the doc I went through with their… with everybody on the call last week on, like.
117 00:14:10.550 ⇒ 00:14:18.379 Robert Tseng: Adam dumped a few docks in our boat, and he was like, where are we with these things? And so I needed to, like, tell him, like.
118 00:14:21.060 ⇒ 00:14:27.679 Robert Tseng: I just had to go through and filter out the signal from the noise, and, like, show him…
119 00:14:27.860 ⇒ 00:14:45.200 Robert Tseng: this is not how the system works. Like, he just, like, threw everything into AI, and then just, like, was like, is this how our system works? And he wanted us to explain what was going on. So, I tried to build it back into this tracking spec, and…
120 00:14:45.560 ⇒ 00:14:59.740 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I think this is a better representation of what our system is. So, I wouldn’t read Adam’s docs at that point… at this point, like, I would just… if you want to get a sense of, like, the story that I’m telling to Eden, like, this is… this is it.
121 00:14:59.740 ⇒ 00:15:00.250 Greg Stoutenburg: Possibly.
122 00:15:00.250 ⇒ 00:15:19.319 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but then the… but the artifact that we’re… that we’ve inherited is the tracking plan. So, ideally, like, I would end up linking to it from our data. We would just create another tab on our data platform documentation and link to their tracking plan when you’re done or something, just so we can at least have it all in one place still. But yeah.
123 00:15:19.600 ⇒ 00:15:23.390 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, alright, that helps. So I think then I should just…
124 00:15:23.630 ⇒ 00:15:33.830 Greg Stoutenburg: I’ll start doing some work here, and we’ll just mention, you know, in one of the channels, hey, you know, making some edits here, looks like we had a lot of events and wanted to really focus it on core workflows, or something like that.
125 00:15:34.460 ⇒ 00:15:47.759 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, so intake is the most important thing for them. Like, Adam’s bet is, like, by switching over, that they are going to drive 15% more conversions. I do not know if that’s true, that’s just, like, a random OKR that they set. So, like.
126 00:15:47.860 ⇒ 00:16:00.920 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and their team is moving, like, we meet with Girish’s team every week now, so… on Wednesdays, and I asked Diego to… I don’t know if Diego actually pulled Girish into the call, I can check right now, but…
127 00:16:01.030 ⇒ 00:16:09.000 Robert Tseng: Let’s see, right now it is… yeah, Girish is in it, so, like, tomorrow… I guess…
128 00:16:09.380 ⇒ 00:16:20.600 Robert Tseng: Greg is not on that call, so I will add you to it, but yeah, basically we’ll need to have, like, an update for them by tomorrow. I said that we would have this, this
129 00:16:20.830 ⇒ 00:16:28.710 Robert Tseng: I told them to hold off on instrumenting it until we did an edit, and that it’s for tomorrow. So, like, this is… this is urgent, yeah.
130 00:16:29.040 ⇒ 00:16:43.139 Greg Stoutenburg: All right. Okay, this can, this’ll take priority then. Do I need to look beyond what’s at TryEden.com? I haven’t been keeping up on where the Eden OS work has actually been stood up.
131 00:16:43.140 ⇒ 00:16:55.599 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, frankly, I haven’t seen the, like, a real demo of EdenOS OH, so, like, I don’t know, like, even what we were discussing last week was still very abstract, like, we just saw, like, events that they send to the data layer. Yeah.
132 00:16:55.600 ⇒ 00:16:59.200 Zoran Selinger: It’s very similar, it has…
133 00:16:59.640 ⇒ 00:17:06.790 Zoran Selinger: It’s a little bit more visual, and… but drop-off rates look… look really good.
134 00:17:07.300 ⇒ 00:17:08.939 Zoran Selinger: In preliminary data.
135 00:17:09.349 ⇒ 00:17:14.020 Zoran Selinger: So that 15% might, might be, might be reachable.
136 00:17:14.130 ⇒ 00:17:25.269 Zoran Selinger: Just from… from that. So, initially, it looks… it looks really… I don’t really have the numbers, because I don’t have access to that report. You have that in slide, Robert, for… for the deck tomorrow.
137 00:17:25.270 ⇒ 00:17:25.599 Robert Tseng: Okay.
138 00:17:26.039 ⇒ 00:17:43.829 Zoran Selinger: I have a screenshot of the report, it’s Ryan’s report, I don’t have access to it, so I don’t have exact numbers, but just from… you’ll see from the previous, from the previous drop-off rates, I had it in one of the decks. It just… it looks much, much better.
139 00:17:44.369 ⇒ 00:17:48.159 Zoran Selinger: And obviously, we have much more control over how it looks and…
140 00:17:48.339 ⇒ 00:17:51.429 Zoran Selinger: So yeah, looks really good so far.
141 00:17:52.430 ⇒ 00:17:58.950 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. So, just to clarify, it’s when you start an intake, you hit…
142 00:18:00.560 ⇒ 00:18:10.390 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright, some of this is memory, I just haven’t been as in the loop on this in a little bit. So, you’re at Tri-Eden, hit this button, now we’re here, we’re in Eden OS.
143 00:18:11.820 ⇒ 00:18:18.450 Zoran Selinger: Yeah. Yeah, let me… I mean, I’ll… I’ll send you, if we have time,
144 00:18:19.530 ⇒ 00:18:26.590 Zoran Selinger: Just to quick, quickly look through it, if you want. I’ll send you a link to a test.
145 00:18:27.120 ⇒ 00:18:30.560 Robert Tseng: Yeah, they have, they have the test, intake, I forget, I don’t have… I don’t believe.
146 00:18:30.560 ⇒ 00:18:37.699 Zoran Selinger: I mean, it’s live for some people. We have a few paid customers already there, so here in the chat.
147 00:18:38.410 ⇒ 00:18:39.060 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
148 00:18:41.240 ⇒ 00:18:42.160 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
149 00:18:42.930 ⇒ 00:18:44.360 Zoran Selinger: That is already high.
150 00:18:46.480 ⇒ 00:18:47.070 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
151 00:18:47.070 ⇒ 00:18:51.510 Zoran Selinger: Paying customers, but it’s a very low,
152 00:18:52.830 ⇒ 00:19:03.189 Zoran Selinger: traffic volumes so far, as far as I know. So, one thing that’s still not live fully is that this is essentially
153 00:19:03.330 ⇒ 00:19:06.310 Zoran Selinger: still invisible to edge.
154 00:19:06.900 ⇒ 00:19:13.819 Zoran Selinger: And I have the latest. Unfortunately, they… It’s a weird one, because…
155 00:19:14.510 ⇒ 00:19:17.170 Zoran Selinger: there’s already a CloudFiller worker in place.
156 00:19:17.440 ⇒ 00:19:29.389 Zoran Selinger: for Eden.health. Really, what’s happening in the background, this is… this is not a real, like, this is only a spoof domain. They’re loading pages from Trident.
157 00:19:29.400 ⇒ 00:19:37.870 Zoran Selinger: under the Eden.held domain. That’s what the worker is doing, and it’s… you can’t actually trigger two workers on the same
158 00:19:38.200 ⇒ 00:19:44.760 Zoran Selinger: route, so their worker gets the request, so our doesn’t see it, which means
159 00:19:45.150 ⇒ 00:19:50.210 Zoran Selinger: earlier today, I prepared the code that will roll up both into one.
160 00:19:50.320 ⇒ 00:19:53.570 Zoran Selinger: So, our edge tracking will work first.
161 00:19:53.680 ⇒ 00:20:01.719 Zoran Selinger: And then they, they will… they will do their workflow late, second. So there will be… should be…
162 00:20:01.720 ⇒ 00:20:04.670 Robert Tseng: Is that gonna impact, like, page speed or anything?
163 00:20:04.670 ⇒ 00:20:10.780 Zoran Selinger: Very, very slight. It’s going to impact page speed by a couple of milliseconds.
164 00:20:11.440 ⇒ 00:20:15.560 Zoran Selinger: And functionally, should be no impact.
165 00:20:15.940 ⇒ 00:20:22.090 Zoran Selinger: And I’m gonna test this in my morning hours tomorrow.
166 00:20:22.210 ⇒ 00:20:28.230 Zoran Selinger: Yeah. So, yeah, we’ll see. It’s… I’m working with Adam P. on this. He says it’s…
167 00:20:28.590 ⇒ 00:20:37.399 Zoran Selinger: It’s super weird to him, what we’re doing… what that worker is doing, but, we just… yeah, we… we have to deal with it.
168 00:20:37.770 ⇒ 00:20:38.270 Robert Tseng: Okay.
169 00:20:38.270 ⇒ 00:20:38.790 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
170 00:20:40.220 ⇒ 00:20:43.350 Zoran Selinger: So that’s, that’s ongoing, it’s in the deck.
171 00:20:44.680 ⇒ 00:20:55.450 Robert Tseng: Okay, great, yeah, so, I mean, I didn’t drop the slides for the deck items, but yeah, Greg, the tracking, like, a tracking plant, like, if you just do, like, a header with, like, a couple screenshots of the before and after, I think that’s fine.
172 00:20:55.860 ⇒ 00:21:02.909 Robert Tseng: Ron, it seems like you have a couple slides that you share already. Then Awash, yeah, we need a slide on Eden OS progress, so,
173 00:21:03.150 ⇒ 00:21:10.389 Robert Tseng: I mean, you don’t have to do the design, just give me the… you just have to give me the… you just have to give me the content. I can… I can build your slide for you.
174 00:21:11.630 ⇒ 00:21:21.149 Robert Tseng: But, yeah, I know we’re a bit late. I totally didn’t realize this crept up on me, so… but I… sorry, I wish I should have announced this yesterday, so…
175 00:21:23.920 ⇒ 00:21:24.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Right beneath.
176 00:21:25.130 ⇒ 00:21:25.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
177 00:21:26.850 ⇒ 00:21:30.120 Robert Tseng: Alright, well, yeah, if nothing else, then…
178 00:21:30.120 ⇒ 00:21:33.909 Zoran Selinger: Actually, there is another thing, so this, student health club tracking.
179 00:21:34.050 ⇒ 00:21:36.500 Zoran Selinger: Essentially, they have nothing.
180 00:21:36.730 ⇒ 00:21:37.180 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
181 00:21:37.180 ⇒ 00:21:41.720 Zoran Selinger: At the moment. So, it’s, it’s not a small,
182 00:21:41.860 ⇒ 00:21:50.840 Zoran Selinger: Caesar is going to take a part of this. They pinged him, and he already started, so if he doesn’t do a lot, we will have to do a lot.
183 00:21:51.710 ⇒ 00:21:54.790 Zoran Selinger: So it’s significant, potentially a significant chunk.
184 00:21:54.790 ⇒ 00:21:55.960 Robert Tseng: Who is Caesar?
185 00:21:55.960 ⇒ 00:22:01.119 Zoran Selinger: I don’t know if this is the correct way to
186 00:22:01.650 ⇒ 00:22:05.340 Zoran Selinger: to read his name. That’s how they read it, so… Here in the chat.
187 00:22:05.340 ⇒ 00:22:06.480 Robert Tseng: Oh, I see.
188 00:22:06.480 ⇒ 00:22:08.859 Zoran Selinger: We, we, we know him.
189 00:22:08.860 ⇒ 00:22:09.430 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
190 00:22:09.430 ⇒ 00:22:16.320 Zoran Selinger: So, he’s also, like, he’s handy with Google Tag Manager and all those things, so he can do a lot of it.
191 00:22:18.180 ⇒ 00:22:24.319 Zoran Selinger: so, if he doesn’t do a lot of it, it’s… it’s on us. It is…
192 00:22:24.500 ⇒ 00:22:30.300 Zoran Selinger: fairly complicated, because call tracking is… is the main piece there. That’s always…
193 00:22:30.590 ⇒ 00:22:33.649 Zoran Selinger: A challenge to implement properly.
194 00:22:34.080 ⇒ 00:22:41.880 Zoran Selinger: And link to, you know, GoHighLevels and Audi and everything. So there’s gonna be integration work.
195 00:22:42.010 ⇒ 00:22:52.189 Zoran Selinger: conversion tracking, Google Tag Manager work, there’s gonna be quite a few moving pieces there, but they need an audit. Currently, nothing in Google Ads works.
196 00:22:53.850 ⇒ 00:22:54.540 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
197 00:22:55.330 ⇒ 00:23:08.210 Robert Tseng: I… I would… I would say defer that to him. I know EHC tooling is on our roadmap, which… let me just flash this, since I think Jasmine is joining this call for the first time, so…
198 00:23:08.350 ⇒ 00:23:14.550 Robert Tseng: Jasmine, we’ll talk more about the ones that are assigned to you in our one-on-one, but basically, anything around
199 00:23:14.660 ⇒ 00:23:17.180 Robert Tseng: Dashboarding,
200 00:23:18.050 ⇒ 00:23:24.779 Robert Tseng: yeah, just the stuff that Greg is kind of being looped into right now eventually needs to kind of move off of Greg, so… Okay.
201 00:23:24.900 ⇒ 00:23:32.899 Robert Tseng: So yeah, like, we’ll talk more about that, but yeah, I guess, Zoran, you’re talking about EHC tooling, you know, and…
202 00:23:33.150 ⇒ 00:23:36.440 Robert Tseng: We have that slotted for, like.
203 00:23:36.600 ⇒ 00:23:56.580 Robert Tseng: later. So, I mean, I guess this is not that far down the line. This is, like, 2 weeks from now, but… or, like, a week from now, but I would… I would… yeah, I would, you know, try to… try to… try to just keep… keep this, because I think you have a couple other priorities. One is affiliate… affiliate tracking. I don’t even think we… we mentioned,
204 00:23:56.780 ⇒ 00:24:16.160 Robert Tseng: what was it called? Eden Health? Like, the whole… that whole Cloudflare Eden Health thing is an ad hoc request that didn’t end up falling into one of these things. So, I think the expectation is still that, you know, we’re… you’re focused on affiliate tracking reliability, and also this, like, whole
205 00:24:16.300 ⇒ 00:24:25.750 Robert Tseng: anomaly detection on marketing metrics thing, which I know you haven’t started yet, but this is something that becomes, like, a joint project between you and Jasmine, right?
206 00:24:26.020 ⇒ 00:24:35.880 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so I’ve done the reconciliation for Catalyst, maybe for the last time, we’ll see.
207 00:24:35.880 ⇒ 00:24:38.550 Robert Tseng: Reconciliation Catalyst and also Everflow, right, is the.
208 00:24:38.550 ⇒ 00:24:49.250 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, so that… yeah, the testing is in progress. I… the new person, Destiny, she’s… she’s working on a… she’s really, really working on…
209 00:24:49.250 ⇒ 00:24:52.700 Robert Tseng: Chloe, by the way, who’s being added to our stuff? Does anybody know?
210 00:24:54.320 ⇒ 00:24:56.619 Zoran Selinger: No, no, I don’t, I don’t.
211 00:24:56.620 ⇒ 00:25:01.330 Robert Tseng: Okay, I’ve just been getting somebody requesting access to segmented mixed panel, so…
212 00:25:02.840 ⇒ 00:25:03.699 Zoran Selinger: I don’t know.
213 00:25:03.700 ⇒ 00:25:19.100 Robert Tseng: Okay, whatever, I’ll figure it out. Okay, great, so you’re working with Destiny on that. Alright, well, I mean, does that mean that this is pretty much… like, we have this slotted as, like, a project that’s gonna take throughout the whole month, so it seems like we… this is a lot less effort than we expected it to be.
214 00:25:20.660 ⇒ 00:25:30.679 Zoran Selinger: It’s gonna be… yes, it’s gonna be less effort than… than… than the whole month, because that… we, we might be really close,
215 00:25:30.910 ⇒ 00:25:38.409 Zoran Selinger: to being done. We’re just super careful, because essentially… and that’s good, Destiny came on board, and she said, I’m not doing…
216 00:25:38.750 ⇒ 00:25:45.700 Zoran Selinger: Anything until we’re 100%, and she’s really pushing back on rushing, and she’s doing all of that work.
217 00:25:46.070 ⇒ 00:25:50.250 Zoran Selinger: Okay. I’ve been pushing back.
218 00:25:50.730 ⇒ 00:25:52.150 Zoran Selinger: on, like…
219 00:25:52.550 ⇒ 00:25:59.950 Zoran Selinger: insisting on quality and all that, so that’s really good. I need to catch up with her to see what happened in the last few days.
220 00:26:00.540 ⇒ 00:26:01.870 Robert Tseng: Okay, great.
221 00:26:02.000 ⇒ 00:26:13.260 Robert Tseng: Alright, last thing I want to say, and I’m just gonna keep saying every time, is just, the… you know, create your own tickets on your projects. Like, I’m only kind of managing things at this level, so…
222 00:26:13.260 ⇒ 00:26:22.970 Robert Tseng: Obviously, if I need to tag you in something, I will create the ticket in Slack, but I feel like we have all the tools necessary for you guys to create the tickets that you need.
223 00:26:23.020 ⇒ 00:26:28.830 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, one… like, I will still jump into this, and just to kind of monitor, like, how much…
224 00:26:29.360 ⇒ 00:26:39.159 Robert Tseng: effort we are doing, and I will kind of just ping people to, like, kick stuff out, because I have, like, you know, we’re still aiming to be around, like, 60, 60 to 70.
225 00:26:39.160 ⇒ 00:26:53.589 Robert Tseng: So we’re definitely over… we’re over the limit right now, so later today, I’m probably gonna pretty much kick a lot of these out of the cycle, but, but otherwise, like, yeah, you guys need to have your… your work kind of,
226 00:26:53.740 ⇒ 00:26:59.899 Robert Tseng: Workstream’s updated. Otherwise, I’m gonna make the wrong decision and move… and move things out that shouldn’t have been moved out.
227 00:27:02.300 ⇒ 00:27:03.030 Robert Tseng: Cool.
228 00:27:03.370 ⇒ 00:27:07.550 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, yeah, anything else?
229 00:27:10.060 ⇒ 00:27:14.059 Awaish Kumar: Okay, maybe I can share my screen, I just wanted to…
230 00:27:14.060 ⇒ 00:27:14.660 Robert Tseng: Sure.
231 00:27:14.660 ⇒ 00:27:22.460 Awaish Kumar: you’re the… Things that we want to capture for… So this is what I’m…
232 00:27:22.720 ⇒ 00:27:26.060 Awaish Kumar: able to capture for… these are the columns, right? This…
233 00:27:26.430 ⇒ 00:27:29.740 Awaish Kumar: Payout is the spend data that we need in the sheet, right?
234 00:27:30.210 ⇒ 00:27:35.829 Robert Tseng: What, they’re still working with Moonshot Marketing? I thought the whole point was they suck, and they’re not trying to use them. Why are they…
235 00:27:35.830 ⇒ 00:27:38.350 Zoran Selinger: Not at all. They…
236 00:27:38.510 ⇒ 00:27:47.420 Zoran Selinger: they keep him in a high regard… in a high regard still, and they really want to work with them. They are the first ones to be onboarded on Overflow.
237 00:27:47.640 ⇒ 00:27:48.400 Robert Tseng: Huh.
238 00:27:50.410 ⇒ 00:27:53.980 Zoran Selinger: And I agree with you,
239 00:27:54.090 ⇒ 00:28:00.560 Zoran Selinger: I think they have access to performance metrics that we don’t, I’m not sure.
240 00:28:00.780 ⇒ 00:28:05.860 Zoran Selinger: either good history with them, or I don’t know exactly where the decision comes from.
241 00:28:06.110 ⇒ 00:28:09.730 Zoran Selinger: In cattle, does it look terrible? I’m not sure.
242 00:28:11.010 ⇒ 00:28:11.939 Zoran Selinger: really not sure.
243 00:28:12.380 ⇒ 00:28:24.099 Robert Tseng: I see. Okay, well, the numbers still don’t make sense when I’m reading them here. So, anyway, you… I guess, sure, yeah, I guess, oisha’s just asking, are these all the… are these all the partners? I guess I don’t know, Zora.
244 00:28:24.100 ⇒ 00:28:26.889 Zoran Selinger: I think, I think so, yes, I think so, yeah.
245 00:28:28.050 ⇒ 00:28:33.159 Awaish Kumar: Okay, and the granularity is fine, like, we need… for partner and offer, we will have these…
246 00:28:34.190 ⇒ 00:28:37.230 Awaish Kumar: metrics, spend, CBR, and stuff like that.
247 00:28:37.740 ⇒ 00:28:43.670 Robert Tseng: Yeah, as long as it matches what’s in the Google Sheet already, which I think that should be fine. We need to just, like, match what we had from Catalyst.
248 00:28:44.900 ⇒ 00:28:45.480 Awaish Kumar: Okay.
249 00:28:49.120 ⇒ 00:28:49.810 Robert Tseng: Okay.
250 00:28:50.200 ⇒ 00:28:51.080 Awaish Kumar: Cool.
251 00:28:52.030 ⇒ 00:29:02.109 Robert Tseng: All right, well, thanks, everyone. I think quarter is off to a good start. No fire drills yet. We have… we have, yeah, I think we’re doing well. All right. Thanks, everyone.
252 00:29:02.110 ⇒ 00:29:03.120 Greg Stoutenburg: Good. Chill.