Meeting Title: Dashboard Project Check-in Date: 2026-04-03 Meeting participants: Demilade Agboola, Greg Stoutenburg
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1 00:04:16.829 ⇒ 00:04:19.040 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, Demi, sorry for the delay there.
2 00:04:24.140 ⇒ 00:04:24.919 Demilade Agboola: Hi, Greg.
3 00:04:25.120 ⇒ 00:04:26.750 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, surfing away.
4 00:04:27.480 ⇒ 00:04:28.749 Demilade Agboola: That’s all good, how are you?
5 00:04:29.460 ⇒ 00:04:32.789 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m good! How’s tennis this week?
6 00:04:33.640 ⇒ 00:04:40.439 Demilade Agboola: It’s been rainy, so I’ve not really had much of an opportunity to play, and there’s only, like, literally one indoor court in the whole of Malta.
7 00:04:41.150 ⇒ 00:04:42.950 Greg Stoutenburg: Really? Oh, jeez.
8 00:04:44.060 ⇒ 00:04:57.789 Greg Stoutenburg: Wow, sorry to hear that. Yeah, I get annoyed because, so I’ve got an ice rink right down the street, like, 7 minutes away, but, they just don’t do a good job maintaining their adult leagues, and so my team joined a league that’s
9 00:04:58.040 ⇒ 00:05:07.999 Greg Stoutenburg: 45 minutes away, which I find annoying. Because, you know, it means the whole round trip is, like, three and a half hours. But at least there’s another one, so…
10 00:05:09.000 ⇒ 00:05:11.940 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, beats no other option.
11 00:05:11.940 ⇒ 00:05:13.619 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I mean, you take what you get.
12 00:05:14.070 ⇒ 00:05:16.930 Greg Stoutenburg: You take what you get, that’s right.
13 00:05:17.780 ⇒ 00:05:36.600 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, cool. Yeah, I just wanted to check in on… well, even… even before the thing with, the new system that we need to get connected, I wanted to just touch base on… yeah, I mean, just touch base on progress, because I feel like it’s really helped as I’ve gotten to know, you know, I kind of came on…
14 00:05:36.640 ⇒ 00:05:51.069 Greg Stoutenburg: midstream of all these dashboards being built, so, you know, I didn’t feel like I had as much personal context. And, you know, there’s only so much you can just get out of cursor and linear. So, I… yeah, I just sort of wanted to ask for, like.
15 00:05:51.540 ⇒ 00:05:58.490 Greg Stoutenburg: You know, where we’re at in, you know, in your words, on the dashboarding work for this, for this
16 00:05:58.610 ⇒ 00:06:09.539 Greg Stoutenburg: Currently scoped project. And, yeah, and then just hear a little bit more about what you think about the wrinkle that got introduced yesterday with us not having access to the right data.
17 00:06:11.260 ⇒ 00:06:16.030 Demilade Agboola: I mean, in the… in the sense of where we’re at, so with…
18 00:06:16.140 ⇒ 00:06:19.519 Demilade Agboola: a number of dashboards were just doing, like, QA.
19 00:06:19.640 ⇒ 00:06:28.429 Demilade Agboola: I’m just trying to get that done. We should be able to… I should do, like, some of the modeling to tidy up, like, the AR dashboard.
20 00:06:28.640 ⇒ 00:06:35.109 Demilade Agboola: But we’re really close, like I said, 90K disparity isn’t the largest. It’s 90K…
21 00:06:35.400 ⇒ 00:06:37.649 Demilade Agboola: Out of 3 million is, like, what?
22 00:06:37.990 ⇒ 00:06:41.490 Demilade Agboola: 0.3% or something, like, it’s really small.
23 00:06:41.770 ⇒ 00:06:47.289 Demilade Agboola: So yeah, we’re close to 3%, we’re close to where we need to be.
24 00:06:47.670 ⇒ 00:06:53.360 Demilade Agboola: Okay. And then I should get that done today. I know,
25 00:06:54.160 ⇒ 00:07:00.259 Demilade Agboola: Advait is working on the new dashboard for LoRa, the GRR NRR dashboard.
26 00:07:00.480 ⇒ 00:07:05.930 Demilade Agboola: Okay. I would ask him for, like, an update on that, so I have some context on how far along he’s… he is at.
27 00:07:06.170 ⇒ 00:07:16.310 Demilade Agboola: And even if it’s just, we’ve come along a decent way, we can probably show, like, Laura a screenshot of it and say, hey, we should push… we’ll, like, finish this up next week.
28 00:07:16.640 ⇒ 00:07:20.590 Demilade Agboola: Yup. Just so that they can see some motion.
29 00:07:20.970 ⇒ 00:07:30.510 Demilade Agboola: I’m looking all… I’ve started, like, the modeling for… Lev’s numbers, and…
30 00:07:31.110 ⇒ 00:07:39.570 Demilade Agboola: So that would also be something we’re looking at getting some dashboard out, or, like, some version of the dashboard out, like, next week for Lev.
31 00:07:39.570 ⇒ 00:07:40.190 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
32 00:07:40.890 ⇒ 00:07:49.110 Demilade Agboola: Or maybe, potentially, like, it depends on how far along, if there are no wrinkles, sometimes these things have wrinkles and might take a bit longer, because other things happen.
33 00:07:49.570 ⇒ 00:07:50.090 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
34 00:07:50.090 ⇒ 00:07:56.400 Demilade Agboola: And I think with the… in terms of what, like, Nautica brought up yesterday, it’s ultimately…
35 00:07:56.820 ⇒ 00:08:00.459 Demilade Agboola: a bit on the back burner. It’s the enablement stuff.
36 00:08:01.420 ⇒ 00:08:07.110 Demilade Agboola: And… in that sense, I’m not touching… doing any major modeling on it until…
37 00:08:07.520 ⇒ 00:08:11.590 Demilade Agboola: We get, like, access to the… live data.
38 00:08:12.050 ⇒ 00:08:12.650 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
39 00:08:12.650 ⇒ 00:08:19.300 Demilade Agboola: And then when we have access to live data, we can start to, you know, model and put, like, Pylon in instead of,
40 00:08:20.130 ⇒ 00:08:22.749 Demilade Agboola: Or, like, figure out, like, how Pylon and…
41 00:08:23.440 ⇒ 00:08:29.479 Demilade Agboola: Because that’s the thing, they didn’t switch off one for the other, so there’s no, like, cut-off dates. It appears they’re running in parallel.
42 00:08:29.610 ⇒ 00:08:35.090 Demilade Agboola: So, I’m going to figure out how to integrate both Pylon and, clean.
43 00:08:35.210 ⇒ 00:08:40.509 Demilade Agboola: Data into the… Dashboard, and figure out how to ensure that we don’t double count.
44 00:08:41.159 ⇒ 00:08:45.889 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, yeah, don’t… don’t do it yet. We might,
45 00:08:46.319 ⇒ 00:08:51.979 Greg Stoutenburg: I… I want to have a conversation with you, Tom. Should have happened, like, an hour ago, but it might have to wait a little bit.
46 00:08:52.169 ⇒ 00:09:02.119 Greg Stoutenburg: We might shoot for an expansion opportunity here, because it seems like their dashboard needs are increasing, and so we might try to get some more hours out of them based on it.
47 00:09:03.050 ⇒ 00:09:07.899 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I think, yeah, that… we definitely could do with some more hours, especially.
48 00:09:07.900 ⇒ 00:09:08.630 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
49 00:09:08.630 ⇒ 00:09:11.939 Demilade Agboola: Just realized we’re doing 80 per month, so that’s, like, 20.
50 00:09:12.170 ⇒ 00:09:12.690 Demilade Agboola: Every week.
51 00:09:12.690 ⇒ 00:09:22.829 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, that’s, like, not enough hours. I mean, even just… yeah, yeah, it’s not enough hours. Not… not… especially now that we’ve got four people working on it, not including Utam, you know? Yeah.
52 00:09:23.160 ⇒ 00:09:24.170 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
53 00:09:24.440 ⇒ 00:09:34.420 Greg Stoutenburg: So, yeah, I think… I think just hold on that for now, and proceed on the other things, and because, well, at minimum, I need to get back to them and say, like, hey, this is a net new request, we didn’t…
54 00:09:34.960 ⇒ 00:09:40.529 Greg Stoutenburg: We hadn’t heard anything about this before, so… And realistically, you think it’s…
55 00:09:41.010 ⇒ 00:09:45.319 Greg Stoutenburg: I know you said… you said 5 before, but, like, you were sort of uncertain.
56 00:09:45.800 ⇒ 00:10:03.540 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I mean, obviously, I haven’t looked into the data itself, so sometimes it could be a bit longer, but I do think, like, modeling a source, a new source will probably be about 5 hours. I think, in terms of what it is, it’s more of, like, if we don’t have enough hours, and we’re constantly, like, just doing more stuff, doing more stuff.
57 00:10:04.010 ⇒ 00:10:04.340 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
58 00:10:04.340 ⇒ 00:10:08.210 Demilade Agboola: Like, hey, this might take a… this might be pushed back a little bit, or this.
59 00:10:08.210 ⇒ 00:10:08.820 Greg Stoutenburg: Yup.
60 00:10:08.970 ⇒ 00:10:12.490 Demilade Agboola: The outcome of this, in terms of timeline.
61 00:10:12.740 ⇒ 00:10:18.999 Demilade Agboola: Important for us to clarify, so that we just don’t keep on taking more stuff as they throw it our way.
62 00:10:19.230 ⇒ 00:10:28.289 Demilade Agboola: Yeah. Ultimately, yeah, it’s… I’ve… to be fair, to be honest with you, I’ve ingested the data already, haven’t looked at it, but I haven’t just connected it and ingested it.
63 00:10:28.570 ⇒ 00:10:29.160 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
64 00:10:30.110 ⇒ 00:10:41.020 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, it’s okay. Yeah, and that’s what I want to know. I just want to know, you know, like, estimate-wise, because then, if I need to get in front of Caitlin or somebody and say, you know, hey, here’s the work that’s been… here’s the work that’s just been added for us to add this
65 00:10:41.260 ⇒ 00:10:44.109 Greg Stoutenburg: There’s two systems, I keep forgetting which one’s which. Pilar.
66 00:10:44.720 ⇒ 00:10:45.680 Greg Stoutenburg: Nope.
67 00:10:45.680 ⇒ 00:10:46.889 Demilade Agboola: Pylon. So, pyl.
68 00:10:46.890 ⇒ 00:11:05.440 Greg Stoutenburg: pylon, that’s the new one, yeah. To add this pylon data. You know, that’s… that’s gonna take this much more work, and here’s why. And as well, you know, stakeholders are coming back with revisions that they want to the dashboards that ask for some new functionality, and we’re all about it, but we just need to… we want to expand our scope, you know, maybe…
69 00:11:06.610 ⇒ 00:11:22.229 Greg Stoutenburg: I guess 110 hours, or something like that, I don’t know. Also curious, if they were… I’ll come back to the dashboards in a second. If they were to say, yeah, great, let’s do it, let’s supercharge this, do you have the capacity for another, I don’t know, five, seven and a half hours a week on default?
70 00:11:22.760 ⇒ 00:11:25.720 Greg Stoutenburg: If that increased capacity were to…
71 00:11:26.380 ⇒ 00:11:27.979 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, mostly come to you.
72 00:11:28.670 ⇒ 00:11:29.610 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I mean…
73 00:11:30.120 ⇒ 00:11:34.569 Demilade Agboola: I think I should be able to be able to get those 5 hours more a week.
74 00:11:35.400 ⇒ 00:11:44.479 Demilade Agboola: I mean, the part of where we’re trying to hire now is so that I can have more capacity to do less, like, hands-on, day-to-day.
75 00:11:44.670 ⇒ 00:11:45.440 Greg Stoutenburg: model. Yeah.
76 00:11:46.110 ⇒ 00:11:51.409 Demilade Agboola: Yeah. In the meantime, probably, like, there’s no one really close in the pipeline, so potentially…
77 00:11:51.410 ⇒ 00:11:52.020 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
78 00:11:52.340 ⇒ 00:11:57.720 Demilade Agboola: that might still follow me, but yeah, I think I should be able to have some time for the next couple weeks.
79 00:11:57.720 ⇒ 00:12:04.329 Greg Stoutenburg: Good. Yeah, I would… I just want to make sure I don’t go and try to sell something that we can’t deliver.
80 00:12:04.330 ⇒ 00:12:04.960 Demilade Agboola: It’s fine.
81 00:12:04.960 ⇒ 00:12:08.250 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, cool. And then, as far as, like.
82 00:12:08.890 ⇒ 00:12:13.340 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, I think we’re still mostly referring to the ANT for this. Let me just pull it up.
83 00:12:27.390 ⇒ 00:12:35.480 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, here’s us. Would you say this is… this is basically right? We’re still… we’re here?
84 00:12:36.670 ⇒ 00:12:38.939 Greg Stoutenburg: tail end of Laura’s…
85 00:12:39.400 ⇒ 00:12:42.179 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so modeling is done, 25 is done.
86 00:12:42.590 ⇒ 00:12:47.990 Demilade Agboola: So yeah, Laura second stream, which is the dashboard that,
87 00:12:48.450 ⇒ 00:12:51.110 Demilade Agboola: Advait is working on, is what we’re currently doing.
88 00:12:51.670 ⇒ 00:12:52.310 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
89 00:12:52.780 ⇒ 00:12:57.899 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. And then, reporting enablement, that’s the one that we previewed yesterday.
90 00:12:58.200 ⇒ 00:13:01.219 Greg Stoutenburg: That we need the additional data added to, right?
91 00:13:01.650 ⇒ 00:13:05.010 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, and also just getting the live stuff, so we can actually mark
92 00:13:05.540 ⇒ 00:13:15.939 Demilade Agboola: at least the version 1 is done, like, not necessarily, like, the full version, but, like, yeah, we’re going to tweak some things to ensure that, you know, it’s more client-facing, but, like, the data.
93 00:13:15.940 ⇒ 00:13:16.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Stuff.
94 00:13:16.260 ⇒ 00:13:17.920 Demilade Agboola: There, it’s just more of the format.
95 00:13:18.360 ⇒ 00:13:19.080 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
96 00:13:19.540 ⇒ 00:13:23.489 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, I’d even say that we got sign-off yesterday, wouldn’t you agree?
97 00:13:23.670 ⇒ 00:13:27.820 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, yeah, I think it’s more, like I said, it’s more of, like, the format of things than…
98 00:13:27.820 ⇒ 00:13:28.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
99 00:13:28.450 ⇒ 00:13:30.080 Demilade Agboola: Like, any problem with the…
100 00:13:30.760 ⇒ 00:13:38.889 Greg Stoutenburg: I wouldn’t include tweaks on any of these, you know, anytime they’re like, oh, let’s actually adjust this or this, I’d still call that done, you’re just sort of revising.
101 00:13:39.340 ⇒ 00:13:44.070 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Yeah, we did that on… Tuesday.
102 00:13:44.280 ⇒ 00:13:50.980 Greg Stoutenburg: And forgive me, I mean, partly I can just get confused, because some of these have such similar names. I mean, this one is Revenue Metrics.
103 00:13:51.910 ⇒ 00:13:53.370 Greg Stoutenburg: But it’s just, like, another one.
104 00:13:55.380 ⇒ 00:13:58.780 Greg Stoutenburg: Where are we on this one? Is this the one we’re calling the ARR dashboard?
105 00:13:58.780 ⇒ 00:14:08.589 Demilade Agboola: So the first one is the ARR dashboard, the second one is the GRR, so the gross revenue, recurring revenue, and then the net recurring revenue by CSM. So that’s the second one.
106 00:14:09.100 ⇒ 00:14:16.110 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. See, I… yeah, I… I need that. Okay. So, this is the CSM one. No, that’s the CSM one.
107 00:14:17.560 ⇒ 00:14:18.830 Greg Stoutenburg: Which one’s this?
108 00:14:18.830 ⇒ 00:14:23.170 Demilade Agboola: This is the CSM one, the CSM… GRR and NRR by CSM.
109 00:14:23.840 ⇒ 00:14:25.909 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s revenue metrics, too.
110 00:14:26.420 ⇒ 00:14:27.010 Demilade Agboola: Yes.
111 00:14:33.920 ⇒ 00:14:34.610 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
112 00:14:36.400 ⇒ 00:14:40.380 Greg Stoutenburg: What’s this one? I’m sorry, I thought this one was the one that we just talked about.
113 00:14:41.910 ⇒ 00:14:44.409 Greg Stoutenburg: This one’s customer reporting and enablement.
114 00:14:44.410 ⇒ 00:14:50.970 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that’s the one, yeah, the one we did for Laura. I’m sorry, not Laura, why can’t you say Laura? Deanna and Lauren.
115 00:14:51.280 ⇒ 00:15:03.280 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. So, this is the one that’s just… okay, that’s just, like, basically customer… engagement, activity, CSM, Dashboard, yeah?
116 00:15:03.280 ⇒ 00:15:05.829 Demilade Agboola: Yes, this is the one, yeah, that’s the one we need to…
117 00:15:07.240 ⇒ 00:15:08.519 Greg Stoutenburg: This is the one with the new ask.
118 00:15:10.220 ⇒ 00:15:11.869 Demilade Agboola: Yes, that’s the one, didn’t you ask?
119 00:15:12.260 ⇒ 00:15:17.520 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, and then, alright, and this one, GRR and NRR by CSM, this is the one that you’re working on now.
120 00:15:22.450 ⇒ 00:15:25.160 Demilade Agboola: Yes, that’s one that Advait is working on now, actually.
121 00:15:25.160 ⇒ 00:15:27.590 Greg Stoutenburg: That Advaita’s working on now. Thank you. Okay.
122 00:15:27.780 ⇒ 00:15:33.200 Demilade Agboola: And then I’m working on livestock, so that’s, like, Productivity, productivity dashboard.
123 00:15:33.200 ⇒ 00:15:34.819 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, so you’re modeling…
124 00:15:35.330 ⇒ 00:15:43.800 Greg Stoutenburg: This is… this probably has to be… I don’t know, ultimately, that’s gonna be my responsibility. Dashboarding is gonna be of a…
125 00:15:45.050 ⇒ 00:15:50.440 Greg Stoutenburg: I know we’re switching to linear, but just because this is, you know, this whole thing was mapped out here, I still think it’s worth looking at. All right.
126 00:15:50.960 ⇒ 00:15:56.460 Greg Stoutenburg: So we’re arguably gonna come on… come up to approaching late on this, but we’ll…
127 00:15:57.290 ⇒ 00:16:02.090 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s okay, we’ll smooth it over, we’re getting things sped up. And then this is what you’re working on now.
128 00:16:03.080 ⇒ 00:16:04.660 Demilade Agboola: Okay. Productivity.
129 00:16:04.660 ⇒ 00:16:11.610 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, okay. And what is customer product activity? I mean, I’m sure that’s in here. Whoops, where’d it go?
130 00:16:12.360 ⇒ 00:16:12.879 Greg Stoutenburg: You know what?
131 00:16:13.670 ⇒ 00:16:16.150 Demilade Agboola: I think it was the previous shit. Yeah, Tashit.
132 00:16:19.240 ⇒ 00:16:20.839 Demilade Agboola: the professions are open.
133 00:16:21.220 ⇒ 00:16:21.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, here we go.
134 00:16:30.090 ⇒ 00:16:32.280 Greg Stoutenburg: Customer product activity. Okay.
135 00:16:35.730 ⇒ 00:16:37.150 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, got it.
136 00:16:39.060 ⇒ 00:16:39.900 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool.
137 00:16:41.670 ⇒ 00:16:42.150 Demilade Agboola: So…
138 00:16:44.560 ⇒ 00:16:47.920 Greg Stoutenburg: They probably could have put this in post-hoc more easily, but that’s okay.
139 00:16:48.070 ⇒ 00:16:54.569 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so it’s… that’s why… that’s why I said, like, some of these things, if we had, like, what’s that thing called?
140 00:16:55.380 ⇒ 00:16:56.790 Greg Stoutenburg: data dictionary.
141 00:16:57.070 ⇒ 00:17:02.559 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, if we just had, like, like, amplitude could also be really good, or post-hour could be really good for some of these things.
142 00:17:02.880 ⇒ 00:17:12.289 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, it would. I wish I’d been able to sell them on it a few months ago. Yeah.
143 00:17:12.640 ⇒ 00:17:18.269 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, cool. This is exactly what I needed to understand, so thank you so much for helping me with that.
144 00:17:18.490 ⇒ 00:17:21.529 Demilade Agboola: No problem. Cool. If you have any other questions, do let me know.
145 00:17:21.900 ⇒ 00:17:26.570 Greg Stoutenburg: Sounds good, and if we don’t talk again, have a good weekend. Hope the weather clears up, you can get out on the court.
146 00:17:26.740 ⇒ 00:17:30.319 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, hopefully I have two sessions tomorrow, hopefully the room doesn’t mess that up.
147 00:17:30.580 ⇒ 00:17:32.630 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, no indoor option, huh?
148 00:17:32.750 ⇒ 00:17:35.279 Demilade Agboola: No. Yep.
149 00:17:35.450 ⇒ 00:17:38.209 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s too bad. All right, cool. Dude, Emmy, thanks.