Meeting Title: Eden Standup Date: 2026-04-02 Meeting participants: Zoran Selinger, Robert Tseng, Amber Lin, Awaish Kumar
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1 00:01:48.150 ⇒ 00:01:49.819 Robert Tseng: Hey, Zoron again.
2 00:01:51.530 ⇒ 00:01:52.300 Zoran Selinger: Bye-bye.
3 00:01:54.900 ⇒ 00:02:00.190 Robert Tseng: I see you answered, Adam.
4 00:02:00.290 ⇒ 00:02:01.630 Robert Tseng: And…
5 00:02:02.500 ⇒ 00:02:03.140 Zoran Selinger: Yep.
6 00:02:04.820 ⇒ 00:02:06.209 Zoran Selinger: Yep, totally.
7 00:02:06.210 ⇒ 00:02:06.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
8 00:02:06.900 ⇒ 00:02:12.650 Zoran Selinger: I thought, oh, this is gonna be a lot of detailed questions, actually, and it wasn’t that bad.
9 00:02:13.050 ⇒ 00:02:16.010 Zoran Selinger: And also, the questions are, you know…
10 00:02:16.160 ⇒ 00:02:18.660 Zoran Selinger: I don’t know, but they’re really good questions.
11 00:02:20.070 ⇒ 00:02:20.720 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
12 00:02:21.790 ⇒ 00:02:28.089 Robert Tseng: maybe we should just spend a little bit of time… have you looked through the artifacts that he sent… that he sent?
13 00:02:28.990 ⇒ 00:02:32.140 Zoran Selinger: No, I hadn’t had a chance, no, no. Okay.
14 00:02:32.140 ⇒ 00:02:32.910 Robert Tseng: Maybe…
15 00:02:32.910 ⇒ 00:02:36.230 Zoran Selinger: That could… that could be a good use of our time, yeah.
16 00:02:36.230 ⇒ 00:02:37.539 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think so.
17 00:02:38.770 ⇒ 00:02:46.630 Robert Tseng: Okay, so, geez, okay, we will start here. So…
18 00:02:51.660 ⇒ 00:02:54.290 Robert Tseng: You have the links, do you want me to share them? Okay, I can share them.
19 00:03:14.230 ⇒ 00:03:14.830 Awaish Kumar: Yay.
20 00:03:16.390 ⇒ 00:03:29.459 Zoran Selinger: Robert, we… do we get people on, like, Upwork, or for maybe some specific tasks? Do we have… do you have an account there?
21 00:03:30.440 ⇒ 00:03:35.249 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we can. If you feel like you need someone, like, tell me, we can go and get them, yeah.
22 00:03:35.410 ⇒ 00:03:44.580 Zoran Selinger: Okay, okay. Because, I’ll… looks like our worker is not actually firing or needing help.
23 00:03:45.260 ⇒ 00:03:46.260 Zoran Selinger: Because…
24 00:03:46.260 ⇒ 00:03:46.640 Robert Tseng: crap.
25 00:03:46.640 ⇒ 00:03:49.729 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah, so I’ll probably need to chain
26 00:03:50.810 ⇒ 00:03:59.430 Zoran Selinger: both, both workers. It’s possible that, I can figure that out, especially with, with, Adam Palma.
27 00:03:59.950 ⇒ 00:04:00.350 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
28 00:04:00.350 ⇒ 00:04:09.000 Zoran Selinger: It’s possible that two of us will… will be able to do it, but if not, because he’s also… he’s not a specialist for Cloudflare.
29 00:04:09.420 ⇒ 00:04:10.050 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
30 00:04:10.630 ⇒ 00:04:19.710 Zoran Selinger: we might need a specialist. This is still very… super low, a low volume of traffic for, for,
31 00:04:20.540 ⇒ 00:04:31.290 Zoran Selinger: for Eden OS, so it’s not a huge problem at the moment, but soon, it’s, it’s still high priority. So I’ll still try today.
32 00:04:31.530 ⇒ 00:04:34.460 Zoran Selinger: But I might need someone,
33 00:04:34.790 ⇒ 00:04:37.889 Zoran Selinger: To source someone for this one quick task.
34 00:04:38.330 ⇒ 00:04:38.980 Robert Tseng: Okay.
35 00:04:38.980 ⇒ 00:04:39.630 Zoran Selinger: M.
36 00:04:39.630 ⇒ 00:04:56.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, feel free to… if you need anybody, yeah, let’s, like, leverage our team. We will find you the person to be able to support you on that. Okay. You know, I know you’re kind of, you know, you do all things marketing analytics for them right now, but I don’t expect you to be able to do everything, and if you…
37 00:04:56.470 ⇒ 00:04:59.760 Robert Tseng: If you get stuck, like, we’ll go in, we’ll go and find somebody.
38 00:04:59.760 ⇒ 00:05:00.480 Zoran Selinger: Okay.
39 00:05:00.480 ⇒ 00:05:01.050 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
40 00:05:03.380 ⇒ 00:05:12.449 Robert Tseng: Okay, so for people that just joined, these are kind of the docs that they want us to align on. It’s all related to Eden OS right now, so…
41 00:05:14.890 ⇒ 00:05:21.139 Robert Tseng: I would… I mean, I would rather us just take, like, 5 minutes to read through it, and then we can kind of see, like, what is the deal here.
42 00:05:32.410 ⇒ 00:05:35.939 Zoran Selinger: Okay, I’m opening… And the second one…
43 00:05:48.560 ⇒ 00:05:50.850 Robert Tseng: I hate reading AI slop.
44 00:05:54.890 ⇒ 00:05:57.880 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, okay, so strategic objective, yup.
45 00:05:58.830 ⇒ 00:06:01.700 Zoran Selinger: Understanding the final Channel?
46 00:06:02.040 ⇒ 00:06:08.250 Zoran Selinger: acquisition and… feeding that back into the platform, sorry, reverse CTL. Makes sense.
47 00:06:13.530 ⇒ 00:06:19.650 Zoran Selinger: Identity resolution. So they’re only focusing on the edge layer
48 00:06:19.810 ⇒ 00:06:36.699 Zoran Selinger: user ID, and we can, essentially, we can… with the edge, we are already going a step… step forward with that, and we’re trying to use, other identifiers if they’re available, right? So that’s good.
49 00:06:37.450 ⇒ 00:06:40.239 Zoran Selinger: I think we are on the standard there.
50 00:06:56.680 ⇒ 00:06:59.310 Zoran Selinger: So, Layer 2, signal capture.
51 00:06:59.610 ⇒ 00:07:07.680 Zoran Selinger: To capture every meaningful patient action from first ad impression, So that’s… So…
52 00:07:08.160 ⇒ 00:07:17.990 Zoran Selinger: Edge doesn’t do two things here. Doesn’t do every interaction, so we’ll have to merge Edge with things like Mixpanel.
53 00:07:18.150 ⇒ 00:07:25.570 Zoran Selinger: Right? And we do not… Capture impressions. We capture clicks.
54 00:07:25.570 ⇒ 00:07:28.409 Robert Tseng: Yeah, only conversions, yeah. Or only clicks and conversions, yeah.
55 00:07:28.410 ⇒ 00:07:40.839 Zoran Selinger: sessions and… and… Now, in OS, we… we will… we will have a better chance… so…
56 00:07:41.320 ⇒ 00:07:52.160 Zoran Selinger: the only event that we… so, two events we track, session starts and thank you page visits, but since Eden OS has URLs for each funnel step.
57 00:07:52.950 ⇒ 00:08:01.730 Zoran Selinger: all of those can be tables, essentially. All of those can be… we can add… we can capture more events now.
58 00:08:04.460 ⇒ 00:08:08.330 Zoran Selinger: if we can turn them into, basically, the URL rules.
59 00:08:09.000 ⇒ 00:08:10.199 Zoran Selinger: So that’s fine.
60 00:08:16.150 ⇒ 00:08:24.210 Zoran Selinger: It is… That… that is the whole idea. It would be great if we can, execute on that.
61 00:08:47.490 ⇒ 00:08:49.829 Robert Tseng: It’s redundant. Okay.
62 00:09:09.050 ⇒ 00:09:23.609 Robert Tseng: Okay, I mean, frankly, Moisha, I thought this is what we should have built from, like, a architecture diagram perspective for, like, HealthOS. I feel like they’re trying to do it, they’re trying to wrap their head around it, and that’s why they just… Adams wrote this doc.
63 00:09:23.990 ⇒ 00:09:29.080 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, like, these are all systems that we kind of maintain at this point, so…
64 00:09:29.380 ⇒ 00:09:31.659 Robert Tseng: I think we should…
65 00:09:34.140 ⇒ 00:09:44.760 Robert Tseng: like, yeah, I feel like this was what was missing from our docs before. Like, they just… they need to know how all the… how everything fits together, and we haven’t been able to clearly show them, so…
66 00:09:47.150 ⇒ 00:09:55.809 Robert Tseng: if we let them define what it is, then it’s gonna release all these misunderstandings. Like, I feel like this is an exercise that, like, basically you and I need to do.
67 00:09:58.880 ⇒ 00:10:03.350 Awaish Kumar: Okay, what… Okay.
68 00:10:03.350 ⇒ 00:10:10.409 Robert Tseng: Like, everything here is, like, straight from, like, yeah, everything here is, like, our… is our stack that we maintain.
69 00:10:12.850 ⇒ 00:10:15.839 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, I think this document is very good.
70 00:10:16.090 ⇒ 00:10:19.240 Zoran Selinger: I think it hits on everything that it needs to hit on.
71 00:10:23.580 ⇒ 00:10:27.140 Robert Tseng: Okay, so I think this will take a longer call. I think.
72 00:10:29.920 ⇒ 00:10:30.550 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
73 00:10:32.950 ⇒ 00:10:50.979 Robert Tseng: I think Awesha and Zoran, you guys should read this through. If you have any other comments, you should just comment in the doc, and then we should put together the final, diagram. Like, I mean, I’m happy to drive that as well, like, I can help build it, but, like, I… the three of us should get on a call, and basically, maybe I’ll schedule this for tomorrow.
74 00:10:52.350 ⇒ 00:10:54.240 Zoran Selinger: Okay, okay.
75 00:10:55.080 ⇒ 00:11:01.029 Awaish Kumar: So, I just have one question, Zorang. Do we have Edgel layer set up for…
76 00:11:01.510 ⇒ 00:11:03.539 Awaish Kumar: Eden Oz, as well.
77 00:11:04.250 ⇒ 00:11:04.780 Awaish Kumar: So then…
78 00:11:04.780 ⇒ 00:11:11.770 Zoran Selinger: So, just before you joined, I was commenting on that. Initially, it looked like some of my tests went through.
79 00:11:12.360 ⇒ 00:11:25.580 Zoran Selinger: But it doesn’t look like it’s working fully. We have multiple workers firing on the same routes, which is a problem, but we can chain workers. I’ll try to do that.
80 00:11:25.670 ⇒ 00:11:34.819 Zoran Selinger: If not, we’ll have to get someone, like a Cloudflare specialist that will be able to figure that out, yeah.
81 00:11:35.530 ⇒ 00:11:40.380 Zoran Selinger: So, consider it not, not, fully done, no.
82 00:11:42.030 ⇒ 00:11:49.370 Awaish Kumar: Okay, okay. Yeah, like, there’s also one of… some of the… some of our models depend on that, so that’s why I was asking.
83 00:11:54.040 ⇒ 00:11:58.649 Zoran Selinger: with Ryan now, and
84 00:11:58.890 ⇒ 00:12:06.169 Zoran Selinger: get that going. I think that’s the priority right now, while we have really low traffic volumes.
85 00:12:06.670 ⇒ 00:12:10.790 Zoran Selinger: So… Now’s the way… now’s the time to do it.
86 00:12:12.710 ⇒ 00:12:15.269 Robert Tseng: What the heck? Did Adam build this himself?
87 00:12:18.280 ⇒ 00:12:24.400 Robert Tseng: I mean, this is basically what I want to do with you guys, but I just want to make sure that… I mean, it sounds like they’re not even waiting for us, they’re just… they’re just building it.
88 00:12:27.800 ⇒ 00:12:31.979 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, by the document that we just seen, that’s… yeah, that’s…
89 00:12:32.350 ⇒ 00:12:33.989 Robert Tseng: That’s what this is, I see.
90 00:12:34.770 ⇒ 00:12:35.500 Awaish Kumar: But.
91 00:12:35.500 ⇒ 00:12:36.230 Robert Tseng: Okay.
92 00:12:36.670 ⇒ 00:12:37.960 Robert Tseng: Wait, go ahead.
93 00:12:38.400 ⇒ 00:12:45.870 Awaish Kumar: This is also, like, yeah, a little bit more detailed, but, like, we have in Figma, like, similar… Diagram.
94 00:12:46.580 ⇒ 00:12:54.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah, he clearly generated this with AI, and it looks better than what we have in Figma. I mean, it’s like the… yeah, so I mean, like, it just…
95 00:12:55.120 ⇒ 00:13:05.699 Robert Tseng: We should build off of this, like, we don’t have to… I’m not saying we have to redo it from Figma, but… I feel like he… I feel like he just… I think he just used AI to generate this.
96 00:13:12.870 ⇒ 00:13:13.700 Robert Tseng: Okay.
97 00:13:31.500 ⇒ 00:13:34.650 Robert Tseng: And then for this plan, this is all from…
98 00:13:38.600 ⇒ 00:13:39.800 Robert Tseng: Who made this?
99 00:13:42.750 ⇒ 00:13:44.409 Robert Tseng: Adam also made this.
100 00:13:49.700 ⇒ 00:13:51.049 Robert Tseng: What the heck?
101 00:13:51.430 ⇒ 00:14:00.949 Robert Tseng: Okay, great. I mean, I guess… I mean, I don’t know, I don’t know if this is great. But yeah, I mean, this is… this is the, event tracking plan that I was…
102 00:14:01.160 ⇒ 00:14:05.779 Robert Tseng: Expecting us to put together for Product Analytics.
103 00:14:06.840 ⇒ 00:14:11.470 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, they basically just made the resources that, like, we just… we needed to make, so…
104 00:14:12.030 ⇒ 00:14:14.530 Robert Tseng: Okay, well,
105 00:14:24.790 ⇒ 00:14:28.819 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna, I’m gonna call Adam. Yeah, I, I, I think…
106 00:14:28.970 ⇒ 00:14:40.260 Robert Tseng: man, my first reaction is, like, I feel like, yeah, these are… these are the… these are the things that, like, we should have made, and they didn’t want to wait for us anymore, so they just went ahead and made it.
107 00:14:43.520 ⇒ 00:14:44.300 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
108 00:14:45.320 ⇒ 00:14:46.200 Robert Tseng: Okay.
109 00:14:47.980 ⇒ 00:14:53.160 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s all I got. I’m gonna… I’m just gonna review this, and I need to spend some time with him,
110 00:14:53.640 ⇒ 00:14:58.539 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think the three of us should go and basically finalize
111 00:14:59.470 ⇒ 00:15:04.189 Robert Tseng: like, there’s kind of no excuse at this point, like, they literally made the diagram for us, like, we just…
112 00:15:04.320 ⇒ 00:15:13.390 Robert Tseng: You have to make sure this is actually true, because this is what they’re gonna hold us accountable for. Or, like, this is… this is their understanding of how it works. I don’t think they actually understand it, they just…
113 00:15:13.510 ⇒ 00:15:15.799 Robert Tseng: They just use AI to create it?
114 00:15:16.380 ⇒ 00:15:19.580 Robert Tseng: And then even this tracking plan, is…
115 00:15:20.450 ⇒ 00:15:22.599 Robert Tseng: Like, I’ll have to go through it, like…
116 00:15:25.580 ⇒ 00:15:35.849 Zoran Selinger: I mean, yeah, we just… we just need to review it and make sure it’s, I mean, we’ll make adjustments to that, we’ll have our own input, maybe a lot, who knows, so…
117 00:15:36.040 ⇒ 00:15:36.820 Zoran Selinger: I think…
118 00:15:38.030 ⇒ 00:15:38.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
119 00:15:39.180 ⇒ 00:15:40.040 Robert Tseng: Okay.
120 00:15:46.890 ⇒ 00:15:49.699 Robert Tseng: Alright, that’s all I got. I’ll see you guys later.
121 00:15:51.020 ⇒ 00:15:51.720 Zoran Selinger: Yes, ma’am.