Meeting Title: Demo Claude Code for Greg Date: 2026-03-31 Meeting participants: Greg Stoutenburg, Jorrel Sto. Tomas
WEBVTT
1 00:00:50.030 ⇒ 00:00:51.120 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Hey, Greg.
2 00:00:52.050 ⇒ 00:00:53.129 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, good morning!
3 00:00:53.480 ⇒ 00:00:54.190 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Morning.
4 00:00:54.800 ⇒ 00:01:03.500 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I was… I was low-key happy when you pushed back an hour, because I was like… I was already up at 5.30, and I was like, oh, thank God I can sleep.
5 00:01:03.500 ⇒ 00:01:04.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Diet.
6 00:01:04.569 ⇒ 00:01:06.429 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: No, I’m just messing with you, I messed up.
7 00:01:06.430 ⇒ 00:01:16.570 Greg Stoutenburg: Classic. I always forget time zones exist, so if I put something on too early, you’re welcome to remind me that you are west of me.
8 00:01:16.570 ⇒ 00:01:26.960 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: That is totally fine. I don’t have a true time zone, because I work with folks overseas, so I’m just awake at all hours, is basically…
9 00:01:27.380 ⇒ 00:01:29.180 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I, that’s how.
10 00:01:29.180 ⇒ 00:01:32.060 Greg Stoutenburg: Awake and working. That’s the dream.
11 00:01:32.060 ⇒ 00:01:39.609 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And automations are great. I mean, the thing is, it’s like, I, yeah, so much of the work I do is automated now.
12 00:01:40.180 ⇒ 00:01:43.080 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: that it’s also, like, I don’t have to, like…
13 00:01:43.690 ⇒ 00:01:59.069 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I would have to, like, prepare briefs or, like, agenda items or stuff before, but now, since my workflow is so… like, everything’s recorded. I think that’s one of the great things about Brainforge, too. Yeah. But, like, across all of the workflows that I operate in, everything’s recorded.
14 00:01:59.210 ⇒ 00:02:09.570 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, as long as, like, things are properly linked, it has all of, like, the follow-up items from last meeting, so I’m always, always up to speed on, like, what I need to be talking about. Yep.
15 00:02:09.720 ⇒ 00:02:10.840 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s pretty good.
16 00:02:10.840 ⇒ 00:02:13.650 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, so… but anyways, I’m here to show you, Claude.
17 00:02:13.650 ⇒ 00:02:13.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Yes.
18 00:02:14.450 ⇒ 00:02:15.360 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah.
19 00:02:15.360 ⇒ 00:02:26.510 Greg Stoutenburg: You’re ahead of me on this journey, so… and I’m a, I’m, like, I’m a knowledge leech, you know, I find out, like, you’re leaps ahead of me, I’m gonna try to get time on your calendar to, get it.
20 00:02:26.510 ⇒ 00:02:33.430 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, so… Serendipitously, in these last couple days,
21 00:02:34.900 ⇒ 00:02:38.310 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: fortunate, like, these were things that I already knew.
22 00:02:38.610 ⇒ 00:02:38.940 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
23 00:02:38.940 ⇒ 00:02:51.429 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But, they… this… this guy who actually works for Claude Code, who works for Anthropic, actually posted a lot of these shortcuts in a thread, so I’m gonna share it with you as well. That way, when I…
24 00:02:52.120 ⇒ 00:02:57.720 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: when I, demo some of these things, you can, like, easily re-reference these.
25 00:02:58.290 ⇒ 00:03:05.890 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: If you want to. Yeah, cool. I don’t know if you have… if you have a lot of… if you’re just getting into Claude,
26 00:03:06.400 ⇒ 00:03:14.879 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: There’s so many things that they turned into, like, features, and whatnot that, used to be…
27 00:03:15.110 ⇒ 00:03:20.659 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: features, and… or used to be things that Cursor had to do main… like, with, like, technically.
28 00:03:20.850 ⇒ 00:03:21.430 Greg Stoutenburg: But…
29 00:03:21.430 ⇒ 00:03:25.889 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: just turned into, like, really easy plugins within the cloud environment, and so I’m gonna show you…
30 00:03:25.890 ⇒ 00:03:26.950 Greg Stoutenburg: Sweet. Yeah.
31 00:03:26.950 ⇒ 00:03:28.549 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Looks like,
32 00:03:29.500 ⇒ 00:03:35.250 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, just one second here. I’ve been working on my Raspberry Pi, so I’m trying not to…
33 00:03:35.410 ⇒ 00:03:37.749 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Oh, nice. I have a billion tabs open.
34 00:03:38.130 ⇒ 00:03:41.249 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Hey, so here, here is, here’s Claude.
35 00:03:41.780 ⇒ 00:03:49.559 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This is Claude Code. So, mind you, Claude, chat, cowork, and code are actually 3 separate instances.
36 00:03:50.350 ⇒ 00:03:56.570 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This helps tremendously, because you can let it do things, like, each… each things that you…
37 00:03:56.700 ⇒ 00:04:12.700 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: want to do or task-wise, can be done, like, you know, in different environments. And so, cowork is actually what I use the most, probably out of all of these. As you can see, this is pretty empty on the left. That’s because I mainly use cowork on my Mac, not so much my desktop.
38 00:04:13.070 ⇒ 00:04:13.740 Greg Stoutenburg: Correct.
39 00:04:14.480 ⇒ 00:04:20.570 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But the really cool part of Cowork is you can fully give your entire computer,
40 00:04:20.820 ⇒ 00:04:23.479 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: up for Claude to use.
41 00:04:23.970 ⇒ 00:04:24.430 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
42 00:04:24.430 ⇒ 00:04:43.990 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, commonly, I’m, like… like, I had, like, a financial model that I was building here. I was, like, tailoring a resume for someone I was helping out with. I was doing, like, cybersecurity market research, and all I had to do was, like, click a button, and then it would just store it in, like, a Google Doc, or I would store it in a Google Drive.
43 00:04:43.990 ⇒ 00:04:53.720 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, like I said, a lot of things that, like, Utam and Robert, like, built into skills or things in Cursor, it’s just already in Claude.
44 00:04:53.720 ⇒ 00:04:54.859 Greg Stoutenburg: Just a button, yeah.
45 00:04:54.860 ⇒ 00:05:03.910 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s a button, and it’s as easy as this to set up. You just go in here, you do connectors, and as you can see, I have all, like, my entire…
46 00:05:04.140 ⇒ 00:05:07.469 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: My entire, like, life is connected to Claude.
47 00:05:07.730 ⇒ 00:05:14.680 Greg Stoutenburg: I’ve gotten this far. I’ve not used co-work, but I have set up my connectors for projects I work on.
48 00:05:14.990 ⇒ 00:05:21.430 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, and the crazy part is, is, like, as long as you get comfortable with, like, slash commands and whatnot.
49 00:05:21.960 ⇒ 00:05:27.060 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Just, like, you can just say, like, Where is this?
50 00:05:27.150 ⇒ 00:05:38.599 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: you can basically, like, connect or call, like, your drive search, so if, like, for example, my G… my Gmail, my personal Gmail, has, like, hundreds of thousands of documents.
51 00:05:38.640 ⇒ 00:05:47.779 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, as long as you know what it’s called, and, like, you want to re-reference it, like, it will just pull in everything, and then, you can actually even, like…
52 00:05:47.780 ⇒ 00:05:59.939 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: have a specific skill, I don’t have it in here right now, where I duplicate. So, like, I’ll put a version of my, like, let’s say I’m building a new resume, I’ll put a version of it in my local computer, and also a version of it backed up.
53 00:06:00.760 ⇒ 00:06:01.400 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
54 00:06:01.400 ⇒ 00:06:18.550 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then, yeah, you can basically… this is, like I said, also… it’s fully agentic, so, like, you can go in, call, tell it to, you know, build a slide presentation based on, you know, a folder you have within your computer, or within Google Drive, or whatever connector, and it will just build it for you, and you can walk away.
55 00:06:18.550 ⇒ 00:06:23.390 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But I think you’d be more interested to see what you can do here with Cloud Code.
56 00:06:23.400 ⇒ 00:06:25.310 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, with Cloud Code.
57 00:06:25.720 ⇒ 00:06:36.669 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: you can… I mean, it’s basically the same way that we’ve set up Cursor, here at, Brainforge. Yeah. There is just, like, so many different skills, but there’s a specific feature
58 00:06:37.090 ⇒ 00:06:40.700 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: That is, like, my favorite. Okay, well…
59 00:06:41.140 ⇒ 00:06:53.080 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I don’t know if I’ll be able to pull it up right now, but basically, there’s this thing called Teleport. And so, because I’m frequently on the go, you can actually continue a session from your, like.
60 00:06:53.310 ⇒ 00:07:06.069 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: from whatever connected module you have. So, like, if you… this is, like, my, my Raspberry Pi one. So, if I wanted to continue a session, I could do, like, teleport, and then I could… I think it’s…
61 00:07:06.590 ⇒ 00:07:13.790 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I think it’s just, like, a phone or something like that. It’s like, you can teleport your session to, like, your mobile phone, basically.
62 00:07:13.790 ⇒ 00:07:14.120 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
63 00:07:14.120 ⇒ 00:07:18.070 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Let me see if… I can show you right now.
64 00:07:19.670 ⇒ 00:07:21.860 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Or, it’s not working right now.
65 00:07:24.260 ⇒ 00:07:25.100 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: One second…
66 00:07:25.100 ⇒ 00:07:26.199 Greg Stoutenburg: Live demo.
67 00:07:28.760 ⇒ 00:07:34.209 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Oh yeah, so… it’s… yeah, this, let me…
68 00:07:36.140 ⇒ 00:07:47.899 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I was moving quite a lot of documents this morning, so I think my computer’s also lagging. Second. But yeah, basically, this is probably my favorite feature out of… I mainly use it out of my,
69 00:07:48.290 ⇒ 00:08:01.999 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: out of my Mac, that’s kind of, like, my workflow, is, like, I’ll… I’ll, like, do something on my Mac, and then, you know, I’ll be at, like, a coffee shop, and then I’ll just do teleport to essentially, like, continue my coding session elsewhere. Yeah.
70 00:08:02.180 ⇒ 00:08:05.610 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so… oh, okay, whoops, I just called the wrong command.
71 00:08:05.790 ⇒ 00:08:07.690 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s dash dash quad.
72 00:08:07.950 ⇒ 00:08:08.630 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Oh, boy.
73 00:08:10.590 ⇒ 00:08:20.820 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then… yeah, basically, that is probably, if you are a… If you are someone who…
74 00:08:21.010 ⇒ 00:08:23.009 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: codes a lot, like I do.
75 00:08:23.150 ⇒ 00:08:27.330 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah. That becomes, like, your, your, your most, like,
76 00:08:27.480 ⇒ 00:08:31.239 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: probably your most powerful feature here.
77 00:08:32.780 ⇒ 00:08:34.530 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Let me see if it’s working now.
78 00:08:38.010 ⇒ 00:08:40.640 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And if not… Oh, okay.
79 00:08:43.669 ⇒ 00:08:48.850 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, it’s… Not working on my session right now.
80 00:08:50.340 ⇒ 00:08:54.899 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Oh, I’ll show you my other one, though, but I think the other one I wanted to show you is…
81 00:08:55.330 ⇒ 00:08:59.730 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: the, the loops. So basically, you’re familiar with cron jobs, right?
82 00:09:00.610 ⇒ 00:09:04.440 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, it’s just essentially a scheduled task, right?
83 00:09:04.440 ⇒ 00:09:17.200 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yes, so this is probably something that I personally like using a lot. And so there’s, like, these two features, like, when you, when you schedule a task, it’s, like, new local task or new remote task.
84 00:09:17.340 ⇒ 00:09:23.290 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, if you do new remote, it just, like, pulls up this module, and…
85 00:09:23.620 ⇒ 00:09:32.040 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: If you are somebody who likes to have a cadence of a scheduling, or whatever it may be, it just… it’s like you have, you know.
86 00:09:32.070 ⇒ 00:09:45.679 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I mean, it’s personal assistant, basically, with Agenta capabilities. And this is probably a future nobody actually… I’ve talked to quite a lot of, like, entrepreneurs and, like, admin folks. They don’t know this exists.
87 00:09:46.660 ⇒ 00:09:47.800 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This is, like…
88 00:09:48.020 ⇒ 00:10:06.740 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: it’s an insane… it’s such an insane, like, feature that just sits within Cloud Code, doesn’t use very much units, sorry, tokens. But yeah, you can basically, yeah, like, like it says here, like, daily code review. Another thing you can do is, like, if you have your Gmail connector, you can just do, like,
89 00:10:07.030 ⇒ 00:10:14.939 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like, summarize my inbox. And you can just have this scheduled in, so you tell Claude, go into my inbox…
90 00:10:15.280 ⇒ 00:10:20.569 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And look for emails from, you know, XYZ, right?
91 00:10:20.570 ⇒ 00:10:20.980 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
92 00:10:21.940 ⇒ 00:10:38.920 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And basically, yeah, it’ll just, like, every morning at 9am, it will just go in, grab all the emails, and then you can, like, tell it where to store the log, like, store the log, or whatever it may be. Yeah. And I’ve been kind of stress testing this against, like, a crowd job that I have running, which is, like, an email digest.
93 00:10:39.010 ⇒ 00:10:42.439 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And the outputs are way better, because it’s clocked.
94 00:10:42.880 ⇒ 00:10:44.810 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool.
95 00:10:44.810 ⇒ 00:10:49.710 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, and yeah, so you can do it, like I said, you can do it remotely, you can, like, set up different cloud environments.
96 00:10:49.820 ⇒ 00:10:58.770 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Right? With, like, different, with different scripts and whatnot. Or you can do this locally. So you can actually just have it run in your computer.
97 00:10:59.030 ⇒ 00:11:09.619 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And it will just… like I said, it’s a prod job, which is, once again, insane. It’s… these are all things that you would need, like, an IT person to, like, show you how to do.
98 00:11:09.800 ⇒ 00:11:10.140 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
99 00:11:10.260 ⇒ 00:11:17.410 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Or you’d have to, like, build a Python script and all that stuff, and now you can just have it run here.
100 00:11:17.410 ⇒ 00:11:18.840 Greg Stoutenburg: It’ll just do it.
101 00:11:19.170 ⇒ 00:11:25.680 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, and the crazy thing is, is, like, there’s already native, like, connectors, so… let me see if I can…
102 00:11:28.040 ⇒ 00:11:37.369 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: There are scraping connectors that you can get. Like I said, I usually do this on my Mac, because I’m on the go, but…
103 00:11:39.080 ⇒ 00:11:40.410 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So…
104 00:11:40.520 ⇒ 00:11:51.159 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Let me see… yeah, so Appify, this is a… this is like a web scraping, tool, but, like, there’s just so many different things you can do, and if you get creative, like, you can…
105 00:11:51.580 ⇒ 00:11:56.370 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I mean, it… like I told you, I’ve automated 90% of my life.
106 00:11:56.370 ⇒ 00:11:56.780 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
107 00:11:57.190 ⇒ 00:12:08.070 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I’m not even exaggerating, which is why I do so much. But yeah, like, this looks ridiculous on my Mac. It’s like, I have, like, 10 tasks.
108 00:12:08.550 ⇒ 00:12:08.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
109 00:12:08.920 ⇒ 00:12:24.560 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: have run straight from my Mac. And it’s usually, like, a combination of, like, preparing for decks, like, it’ll be pulling in, like, any new sales calls that I’m, like, I’m going into, it’ll pull contacts and just prepare short briefs for me there. And yeah, it’s just…
110 00:12:24.790 ⇒ 00:12:29.800 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, it’s connected to my teams. It’s… it’s… it’s just, like, that simple.
111 00:12:30.120 ⇒ 00:12:30.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, that’s amazing.
112 00:12:30.920 ⇒ 00:12:38.139 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And… One… and then the one other thing is loops. I’m trying to make it work here, but…
113 00:12:39.360 ⇒ 00:12:42.320 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: There is this… been called.
114 00:12:42.320 ⇒ 00:12:44.070 Greg Stoutenburg: I saw autonomous loops.
115 00:12:44.840 ⇒ 00:12:46.810 Greg Stoutenburg: When you start to type, yeah.
116 00:12:46.980 ⇒ 00:12:47.819 Greg Stoutenburg: There it is.
117 00:12:48.150 ⇒ 00:12:49.040 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So…
118 00:12:49.210 ⇒ 00:12:56.950 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This… this is… this is in Everything Claude code, which is, like, a plugin, but it’s actually native to Claude. I don’t know why it’s not showing up.
119 00:12:57.370 ⇒ 00:12:57.780 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
120 00:12:57.780 ⇒ 00:13:01.030 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: You can actually… you can actually, like…
121 00:13:01.210 ⇒ 00:13:04.820 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: on a loop, you’re gonna have a cloud session that will…
122 00:13:05.350 ⇒ 00:13:09.420 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: essentially, like, let’s say you… let’s say you connect to Slack.
123 00:13:09.550 ⇒ 00:13:19.829 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It will, on a loop, check your Slack messages, or will… so you can, like, set it for 30 minutes, you can set it for an hour, and the Claude agent will know
124 00:13:20.010 ⇒ 00:13:32.329 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Just based on your description, like, what you want it to do. So it’s like, you have all of the, like I said, all the Ajenta capabilities of Cursor, but you’re able to deploy it automatically.
125 00:13:32.720 ⇒ 00:13:33.520 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
126 00:13:33.520 ⇒ 00:13:40.250 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then there is, like… I don’t know why it’s also not popping up. There’s, like… oh, here it is. So there’s multi-execute.
127 00:13:40.400 ⇒ 00:13:45.070 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So this is the thing I was telling you about, where, like, you can actually,
128 00:13:45.200 ⇒ 00:13:56.940 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: you can actually, like, multiple… you can send out multiple agents to do work at the same time. So, like, if… as long as you have, like, a multi-plan, for example, like, you set up your implementation plan.
129 00:13:56.940 ⇒ 00:14:08.810 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: and you have, like, 6 features, and in that plan, you say, hey, make sure that these features can be built in parallel. Multi-agent will then, like, deploy several sub-agents to build features, like.
130 00:14:08.880 ⇒ 00:14:20.789 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: in, you know, basically at all at the same time. It uses a lot of… it uses a lot of tokens, but this is also one feature I use a lot, like, especially, like, if you see…
131 00:14:21.090 ⇒ 00:14:27.380 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like, how much I, like, I was working on, like, this.
132 00:14:27.940 ⇒ 00:14:35.119 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: because it’s, like, a lot of these things can be done individually, these are just, like, very simple Python scripts that I.
133 00:14:35.470 ⇒ 00:14:37.820 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: building on cron jobs.
134 00:14:37.820 ⇒ 00:14:38.440 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
135 00:14:38.960 ⇒ 00:14:45.200 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And yeah, it’s like, it literally wouldn’t… it didn’t take, like, pretty much anything. And so…
136 00:14:45.430 ⇒ 00:14:54.249 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But yeah, those are, like, those would be, I would say, like, the main… the main, like, three things that just… it changed… it changed my life once I found out about these.
137 00:14:54.540 ⇒ 00:14:54.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
138 00:14:54.920 ⇒ 00:15:05.610 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: tasks, like multi-agents and, like, loops, it just… you… yeah, all those repetitive tasks that you’re, like, trying to remember to do every single day.
139 00:15:05.610 ⇒ 00:15:05.940 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
140 00:15:05.940 ⇒ 00:15:09.780 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Turn them into agents on a schedule, like, via Claude.
141 00:15:10.180 ⇒ 00:15:15.070 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: you just never think about it. It’s like… it’s like telling an intern, like, I want this in my inbox by, like.
142 00:15:15.070 ⇒ 00:15:15.820 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
143 00:15:15.820 ⇒ 00:15:17.299 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, this morning, it’s like…
144 00:15:17.690 ⇒ 00:15:18.060 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
145 00:15:18.060 ⇒ 00:15:18.840 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Okay.
146 00:15:19.020 ⇒ 00:15:19.829 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: You know.
147 00:15:19.830 ⇒ 00:15:20.200 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
148 00:15:20.200 ⇒ 00:15:26.240 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: by this morning. It’ll be here at 9am, right? And I think one other thing you, you might,
149 00:15:26.760 ⇒ 00:15:33.670 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: that you might really, like, especially if you manage a lot of emails like I do, like, different emails is, like.
150 00:15:33.820 ⇒ 00:15:39.769 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: giving it access to, like, the, there’s an MCP you can give it access to, and it can, like, scrape
151 00:15:40.000 ⇒ 00:15:48.879 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Everything from all of your emails, and then we’ll just, like, spit out a digest of, like, hey, this is all the things that you
152 00:15:49.240 ⇒ 00:15:52.139 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, that you need to look at today, right?
153 00:15:52.140 ⇒ 00:15:52.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
154 00:15:52.560 ⇒ 00:15:55.900 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, yeah, but that’s… that’s Claude Co, right?
155 00:15:56.340 ⇒ 00:15:58.580 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This is… this is, like, yeah.
156 00:15:58.870 ⇒ 00:16:04.590 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: If you haven’t used Co-Work, I really implore you to try it out.
157 00:16:05.200 ⇒ 00:16:09.649 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Let me see if I can show you how I built some decks with it, but.
158 00:16:09.650 ⇒ 00:16:16.189 Greg Stoutenburg: That would be great. So that’s something that is a time suck every week, and all I’m really doing when I build a deck is I’m…
159 00:16:16.300 ⇒ 00:16:33.619 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m looking at what we said last week we would do, and I’m getting updates from the team, which have typically already been shared, at least in communication in some way or another, from Slack. So if I skim through it, I’ll be able to go, okay, I understand. Even though he’s asking a question about this, really, there’s an update to be made, which is to say, here’s the progress on this thing.
160 00:16:33.620 ⇒ 00:16:45.269 Greg Stoutenburg: and then put it into deck form. Something like that. If I could just… if I could just have something run every Wednesday morning that checked all the right sources, and then assembled a deck, that’d be amazing.
161 00:16:46.000 ⇒ 00:16:50.369 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, so let me… Because there’s some, like, sensitive.
162 00:16:50.580 ⇒ 00:16:53.460 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, go ahead. Find your thing, I’m gonna pour this coffee that just finished.
163 00:16:53.770 ⇒ 00:16:55.110 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, yeah, sounds good.
164 00:16:55.410 ⇒ 00:16:56.600 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: See if I can’t…
165 00:17:15.470 ⇒ 00:17:23.549 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I’ll use my, I use my pitch deck. You can see, you can see…
166 00:17:23.550 ⇒ 00:17:24.619 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, let’s see it.
167 00:17:24.790 ⇒ 00:17:27.819 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This is, like, this is an old pitch deck, though, from,
168 00:17:34.820 ⇒ 00:17:42.639 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But this is, yeah, because, I was… I was raising… I put it on a pause right now, but I was raising for a startup earlier this year.
169 00:17:42.910 ⇒ 00:17:46.529 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then now, we’re trying to,
170 00:17:48.650 ⇒ 00:17:56.220 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: just wait till my seed round. But, alright, let me show you. So this is my… this is my… this is my pitch deck that I just uploaded to Claude Cowork.
171 00:17:59.060 ⇒ 00:18:06.139 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, basically, I have this in, like, my downloads, and you can… I can… I can say, can you change…
172 00:18:08.260 ⇒ 00:18:13.689 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Can you give suggestions?
173 00:18:15.000 ⇒ 00:18:16.239 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: the appendix.
174 00:18:17.660 ⇒ 00:18:18.859 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This picture there.
175 00:18:22.850 ⇒ 00:18:34.599 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, what it’ll do… and I encourage you to have, like, mark… like, a lot of markdown files and skills that tell you exactly that you… how you want the decks to look like.
176 00:18:34.960 ⇒ 00:18:35.360 Greg Stoutenburg: Mmm.
177 00:18:35.360 ⇒ 00:18:38.219 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Because that’s what it will reference.
178 00:18:39.180 ⇒ 00:18:42.840 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And typically, in my Mac, I’ll have, like.
179 00:18:42.890 ⇒ 00:18:55.590 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: a skill that’s specifically for, like, the other company I run, FusionNode. It’s, like, my brand, my brand guidelines, like, what I need to include, how the headers and the footers look, all that, and…
180 00:18:55.590 ⇒ 00:19:03.580 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It basically, in the same way that when you do… when you use an agent for coding, it will also, it will also make
181 00:19:03.760 ⇒ 00:19:17.339 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: the design choices and the slides, like, consistent with, yeah, with that output. And so, yeah, so basically it just looked through… it looked through my pitch deck, and then it gave,
182 00:19:17.630 ⇒ 00:19:23.570 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, so, I’ll just say, create a financial prediction.
183 00:19:24.690 ⇒ 00:19:29.250 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: projection slide on… P.
184 00:19:29.630 ⇒ 00:19:31.290 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Last slide, okay.
185 00:19:32.270 ⇒ 00:19:42.139 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, what I’ll do is I’ll just… I literally will just talk through it. This is actually, by the way, how I make my… any of my decks now, is I don’t even,
186 00:19:42.560 ⇒ 00:19:45.080 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I don’t even touch the PowerPoint.
187 00:19:45.080 ⇒ 00:19:47.660 Greg Stoutenburg: You can’t even open my PowerPoint.
188 00:19:47.660 ⇒ 00:20:00.960 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I just do this, and then, you’ll see that when it’s building it, it will open a preview bar on the right, and then I’ll just scroll through it, and then just be like, oh yeah, I’m not really happy with this, can we change these things?
189 00:20:01.650 ⇒ 00:20:09.750 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then when you do this enough times, Greg, you can actually just create a skill, because it will… it will know, like.
190 00:20:09.980 ⇒ 00:20:23.620 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: it will just take the log of all the things you’ve done, create a skill out of it, and it will know to always keep those things in mind. Because that’s what I’ve realized about how I make my decks, is I actually… I have a very… I have the same tendencies every single ask.
191 00:20:23.620 ⇒ 00:20:33.399 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah. And so now, when I was spending a lot more time before just making, like, oh, can we move this to the center? Can we do this? It already knows in advance now.
192 00:20:33.400 ⇒ 00:20:34.880 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Right. Because of the market value.
193 00:20:34.880 ⇒ 00:20:35.859 Greg Stoutenburg: structure it.
194 00:20:35.860 ⇒ 00:20:42.990 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Exactly. It’s like, oh, you know, the first slide’s always gonna be, you know, the title, you know, the title with the subheading, and these.
195 00:20:42.990 ⇒ 00:20:43.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah.
196 00:20:45.280 ⇒ 00:21:00.870 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then it will just, like, get more and more efficient. And then once… once those reps have been put in, in your skills, that’s when you then set a scheduler, and you say, hey, look at this inbox, you know, look at my inbox, look for these things, look for these assets.
197 00:21:00.870 ⇒ 00:21:11.289 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And make it this way, needs to be 10 slides, this is the slide structure, and then boom, you’ll always have the same… the same deck in the same format every single morning.
198 00:21:11.530 ⇒ 00:21:11.850 Greg Stoutenburg: out.
199 00:21:12.270 ⇒ 00:21:15.379 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, and so, yeah, as you can see, it’s like…
200 00:21:16.000 ⇒ 00:21:20.160 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s pretty fast, too. It’s pretty much almost done. And so…
201 00:21:20.370 ⇒ 00:21:25.570 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, certainly faster than if you just sat down and opened up PowerPoint and chose a template and started typing.
202 00:21:25.720 ⇒ 00:21:32.979 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yes. And like, I mean, I… I… I’ll just let it go like this, and then I’ll just, like, answer emails on my… oh my god.
203 00:21:32.980 ⇒ 00:21:33.320 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
204 00:21:33.620 ⇒ 00:21:42.249 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And, you know, by the time, by the time I, you know, I get through some of the other, you know, more hands-on tasks, like, the slides are ready.
205 00:21:42.600 ⇒ 00:21:56.260 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah. I’ve built a slide deck while I was talking, like, I was on a meeting with, with someone I do some fractional work with, and they were, like, asking, oh, I’m trying to build this proposal for XYZ, and then in the background, I’m just typing in, like, all the asks.
206 00:21:56.260 ⇒ 00:21:56.780 Greg Stoutenburg: We’re already doing that.
207 00:21:56.780 ⇒ 00:22:05.950 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: By the time we were done with the sync call, I had the proposal, like, ready for him to share with his team, and so…
208 00:22:05.950 ⇒ 00:22:06.610 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s great.
209 00:22:06.610 ⇒ 00:22:17.209 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s… it’s really, really, it’s really, like I said, it’s really changing the way we’re… we’re… we’re doing work. It’s not like a, get this, get this to me by end of day, it’s like, you can get this to me by end of meeting.
210 00:22:17.750 ⇒ 00:22:18.120 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
211 00:22:18.280 ⇒ 00:22:32.520 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And there’s, like, no excuse on speed. It’s like, if you have these tools, just do it. There’s no reason for you not to, especially because when you look at the output, once this thing finishes.
212 00:22:32.520 ⇒ 00:22:40.080 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: you won’t be able to tell which slide was the one that was made by me versus the slide that was made by Claude.
213 00:22:40.340 ⇒ 00:22:41.520 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, interesting.
214 00:22:41.980 ⇒ 00:22:47.520 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Because it’ll… it just… it just, I don’t… I honestly, it just… it feels like magic half the time.
215 00:22:47.910 ⇒ 00:22:50.610 Greg Stoutenburg: How’d it do that?
216 00:22:50.610 ⇒ 00:22:52.280 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Exactly.
217 00:22:52.570 ⇒ 00:23:05.790 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, but yeah, it’s, just give it a couple, couple seconds here. It’s just, now it’s already, it’s already unpacked and, and, like, matched the style, so now it’s gonna be the slide. Right. And, by the way.
218 00:23:05.920 ⇒ 00:23:08.460 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Once… once this thing has enough reps.
219 00:23:08.680 ⇒ 00:23:24.969 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like, as long as you have the skills and co-work has the context, it becomes faster. So right now, because I didn’t have this deck inside of my folder, and it didn’t have that in the context window, that’s why it’s taking a while, but I’m not even kidding you, it only takes me 5 minutes now.
220 00:23:25.140 ⇒ 00:23:29.099 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah. Like, less than 5 minutes to do all this, all the stuff that you’re seeing.
221 00:23:29.100 ⇒ 00:23:31.040 Greg Stoutenburg: I just walk in and talk to investors.
222 00:23:31.460 ⇒ 00:23:44.159 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Basically, yeah, then you just have, like, a… you have… you have a… like I said, like, once you do this enough, just do the skill creator. It’ll take in the way that you like making your slides, and then whatnot. But, yeah, there’s…
223 00:23:44.890 ⇒ 00:23:48.750 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: there’s a skill I have on my Mac, which is just, like, make that. It’s just…
224 00:23:48.750 ⇒ 00:23:50.149 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.
225 00:23:50.150 ⇒ 00:23:52.359 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Update with this feedback, and then that’s it.
226 00:23:52.770 ⇒ 00:23:53.370 Greg Stoutenburg: Right?
227 00:23:53.370 ⇒ 00:23:58.090 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So yeah, it’s, it’s a little bit insane.
228 00:23:58.510 ⇒ 00:23:59.670 Greg Stoutenburg: That is insane.
229 00:24:00.090 ⇒ 00:24:06.809 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, and so, as you can see, it’s almost done here. Since we asked it to do a financial projection slide, there’s a bit more character.
230 00:24:06.810 ⇒ 00:24:08.719 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s gonna be more work, I’m sure, yeah.
231 00:24:08.720 ⇒ 00:24:15.949 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But, yeah, it’s… I mean, it’s crazy. It’s, it’s essentially like…
232 00:24:17.380 ⇒ 00:24:19.989 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Having your own analyst on board.
233 00:24:19.990 ⇒ 00:24:20.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
234 00:24:21.820 ⇒ 00:24:34.440 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Or your own intern? And so, there’s a reason a lot of folks are, like, slashing headcount right now. This feature right here, this whole co-work, is the primary reason for it.
235 00:24:34.620 ⇒ 00:24:35.380 Greg Stoutenburg: up.
236 00:24:35.740 ⇒ 00:24:50.799 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I’ve got a… my oldest is gonna turn 14 in May, and I’m already thinking, like, man, I’m glad he’s not graduating college today, because it’s gotta be hard to get an entry-level job in a lot of things today, if you’re not already ahead of the curve.
237 00:24:51.000 ⇒ 00:24:51.990 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yes.
238 00:24:51.990 ⇒ 00:24:56.230 Greg Stoutenburg: Hopefully in the next 6 years or whatever, there’ll be more time to figure that out.
239 00:24:56.550 ⇒ 00:25:08.820 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, I mean, your kid’s lucky, because if they were 21 right now, getting straight out of college, like, I’ve been referring so many kids to different roles these days. Yeah. Because it’s like…
240 00:25:10.050 ⇒ 00:25:12.160 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, there’s no other prospects, it’s just…
241 00:25:12.160 ⇒ 00:25:12.750 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
242 00:25:12.750 ⇒ 00:25:16.869 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s, it’s, it’s this, or you get hired, right? I mean…
243 00:25:16.870 ⇒ 00:25:17.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Right, right.
244 00:25:18.260 ⇒ 00:25:23.469 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And if you’re… I mean, if you’re, like, a law firm, for example.
245 00:25:24.130 ⇒ 00:25:29.949 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: this is always gonna have consistent output. Right. And so, that’s the reason that, like.
246 00:25:31.040 ⇒ 00:25:45.510 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I’ve… I’ve been… I’ve been chatting with some… I’ve been chatting with some firms here, pretty… some mid-sized firms here in LA, and a lot of them, they’re… they’re slowly adopting… they’re slowly adopting, like, Claude, they’re slowly adopting, like, Kate, like, these, like, this case management, AI.
247 00:25:45.510 ⇒ 00:25:45.870 Greg Stoutenburg: 12.
248 00:25:45.870 ⇒ 00:25:52.890 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And yeah, it’s like, they’re… they only need, like, one or two paralegals to service, like, 10 attorneys.
249 00:25:53.030 ⇒ 00:25:57.390 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Before, they would have one to two paralegals. One for two.
250 00:25:57.390 ⇒ 00:25:58.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Great, yep.
251 00:25:58.510 ⇒ 00:26:04.549 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, now, it’s like the headcount for your firm went from, like, 40 down to 20.
252 00:26:04.750 ⇒ 00:26:05.070 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
253 00:26:05.070 ⇒ 00:26:06.330 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: There’s just no point.
254 00:26:06.670 ⇒ 00:26:07.210 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
255 00:26:07.490 ⇒ 00:26:08.210 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yup. Yum.
256 00:26:08.850 ⇒ 00:26:12.099 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, yeah, it’s just… it’s really… yeah, I…
257 00:26:12.630 ⇒ 00:26:17.070 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Honestly, I have no answer for most of these kids now.
258 00:26:17.070 ⇒ 00:26:17.979 Greg Stoutenburg: I’m sure. Yeah.
259 00:26:17.980 ⇒ 00:26:25.229 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Just, hey, like… I don’t know, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe do English? Like, don’t do, don’t do computer science.
260 00:26:25.920 ⇒ 00:26:32.959 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, right, so yeah, don’t do, don’t do computers, right, back to the arts. Yeah, become a, become a theater actor.
261 00:26:32.960 ⇒ 00:26:37.200 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, maybe, like, I don’t know, do, like, engineering?
262 00:26:37.200 ⇒ 00:26:37.609 Greg Stoutenburg: But it’s like…
263 00:26:37.610 ⇒ 00:26:39.010 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, not computers.
264 00:26:39.010 ⇒ 00:26:41.000 Greg Stoutenburg: Right, build bridges.
265 00:26:41.170 ⇒ 00:26:47.750 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, I don’t know, do some… do something that has, like, a bit more, physical, physical therapy.
266 00:26:47.750 ⇒ 00:26:49.409 Greg Stoutenburg: Right, exactly. Plumber.
267 00:26:49.630 ⇒ 00:26:58.200 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Plumber, like, technical trades, education. Even education, though, kind of getting… getting… Getting shafted a bit with.
268 00:26:58.200 ⇒ 00:26:59.100 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh yeah, totally.
269 00:26:59.850 ⇒ 00:27:03.780 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, but but in general, it’s like, there’s very…
270 00:27:04.110 ⇒ 00:27:08.490 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Very, very… the very nature of work is changing.
271 00:27:08.630 ⇒ 00:27:09.800 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, for sure. Yeah.
272 00:27:10.230 ⇒ 00:27:17.599 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, but yeah, we’re basically getting to the end here, so now it’s just doing a visual QA. And so, as you can see.
273 00:27:18.170 ⇒ 00:27:21.140 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: all these things… like…
274 00:27:21.650 ⇒ 00:27:38.780 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, that’s great. That’s already an improvement over the last time I tried to use AI to make a deck, which says the title’s being overridden by the subtitle text. Last time I tried to use AI to make a deck, it just… all sorts of elements were just clashing with each other, and I’m like, man, this output’s terrible, but looks like they fixed that.
275 00:27:39.060 ⇒ 00:27:49.689 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, they fixed it, and then, like I said, if you… if you start… if you start making your own, like, edits and comments, and you, like I said, turn it into a skill, it becomes even faster.
276 00:27:49.690 ⇒ 00:27:50.600 Greg Stoutenburg: So… Yeah.
277 00:27:50.600 ⇒ 00:27:55.740 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: right now, like, what the output that I’ll show you won’t be 100% perfect.
278 00:27:55.950 ⇒ 00:28:00.459 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Sure. But it’ll be so close to perfect that it’s like…
279 00:28:01.040 ⇒ 00:28:05.130 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like I said, it’s probably only, like, an additional 5 to 10 more minutes of work.
280 00:28:05.130 ⇒ 00:28:06.010 Greg Stoutenburg: Right, yeah.
281 00:28:06.010 ⇒ 00:28:11.739 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so… Okay, so now it’s gonna copy to my workspace folder, so…
282 00:28:11.740 ⇒ 00:28:12.380 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
283 00:28:13.760 ⇒ 00:28:18.829 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And then I will… Show the preview, and then…
284 00:28:21.480 ⇒ 00:28:25.839 Greg Stoutenburg: If you want to take a minute and, you know, if you need to close your screen while you pull something up, that’s fine.
285 00:28:28.950 ⇒ 00:28:33.969 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, I don’t really have any sensitive stuff on my downloads, but, I’ll just do that.
286 00:28:37.210 ⇒ 00:28:44.250 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, I’m also, like… clearing my folders right now, I have so much… So much BS.
287 00:28:46.000 ⇒ 00:28:50.639 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I have so much BS in my downloads folder. I had, like, I just cleared 30 gigs this morning, so…
288 00:28:53.810 ⇒ 00:28:54.790 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Mmm…
289 00:28:59.900 ⇒ 00:29:01.009 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: There we go.
290 00:29:06.020 ⇒ 00:29:08.310 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, so this is…
291 00:29:09.490 ⇒ 00:29:13.889 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: This is preview. I need to, like, update something in Claude, so I’ll just show you the…
292 00:29:14.030 ⇒ 00:29:14.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Sure.
293 00:29:14.620 ⇒ 00:29:16.470 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I’ll show you the PowerPoint.
294 00:29:16.470 ⇒ 00:29:22.879 Greg Stoutenburg: and this is… and by the way, this is just really helpful. This is, like… it’s… it’s got my mind percolating with, like, where can I…
295 00:29:23.720 ⇒ 00:29:28.010 Greg Stoutenburg: what do I have right now? I feel like I need to do an audit of all of the things I do that don’t…
296 00:29:28.210 ⇒ 00:29:34.300 Greg Stoutenburg: that just depend on data that already exists elsewhere, that I might look up, and just organize, like, I don’t need to be doing that work.
297 00:29:34.700 ⇒ 00:29:40.370 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, so this is the slide that it created, by the way, and this is everything else in my deck.
298 00:29:41.450 ⇒ 00:29:42.140 Greg Stoutenburg: That I made.
299 00:29:42.870 ⇒ 00:29:43.410 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
300 00:29:43.410 ⇒ 00:29:55.329 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So… so it… it basically… it doesn’t even… it maintained the style, it maintained the font, it maintained the way that I structured every single other, slide in this… in this deck.
301 00:29:55.640 ⇒ 00:29:55.980 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
302 00:29:55.980 ⇒ 00:30:03.040 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And it’s just, like, it’s… it’s… it’s… I wouldn’t do anything to change this. It’s like…
303 00:30:03.040 ⇒ 00:30:04.470 Greg Stoutenburg: Right, it looks great.
304 00:30:04.470 ⇒ 00:30:06.209 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I can’t… I think it’s too…
305 00:30:06.210 ⇒ 00:30:06.590 Greg Stoutenburg: It’s like…
306 00:30:06.590 ⇒ 00:30:08.249 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s accurate. It’s like, these are.
307 00:30:08.250 ⇒ 00:30:08.600 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
308 00:30:08.600 ⇒ 00:30:09.270 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: rings.
309 00:30:09.560 ⇒ 00:30:10.709 Greg Stoutenburg: Does it seem realistic?
310 00:30:10.940 ⇒ 00:30:21.769 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: yeah, I mean, ARR, like, quarterly revenue, like, estimated cash, like, if you do… if you do the, you know, the actual financials, like, this is actually…
311 00:30:21.940 ⇒ 00:30:26.730 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: pretty much what I have in my, in my burn projections. Yeah.
312 00:30:26.730 ⇒ 00:30:28.959 Greg Stoutenburg: Now, yeah, sorry, didn’t mean to interrupt.
313 00:30:28.960 ⇒ 00:30:42.999 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: No, no, but that’s the crazy part, is, like, you can provide, like, additional, like, CSVs, other data, and it will take all of it into account. Yeah. And actually, even more recently, it’s gotten better because of the 1 million context window they just added.
314 00:30:43.000 ⇒ 00:30:52.150 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, I’m showing you, like, the depowered version right now. Right. But they have, yeah, like, with their 1 million contacts in Opus 4.6, like.
315 00:30:52.470 ⇒ 00:30:58.579 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s just… it’s just one click now. Yeah. Like, add… add slides you want, you know? Like…
316 00:30:58.580 ⇒ 00:30:59.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
317 00:30:59.480 ⇒ 00:31:05.810 Greg Stoutenburg: So, a question about this. Now, you… your prompt said, make a financial projection slide.
318 00:31:06.060 ⇒ 00:31:08.789 Greg Stoutenburg: Do you have a skill somewhere that’s like.
319 00:31:08.960 ⇒ 00:31:17.770 Greg Stoutenburg: here’s what a financial projection slide needs to look like, or here’s, like, some context on what… on how financial projections work, or anything like that. Or do you just…
320 00:31:18.290 ⇒ 00:31:19.129 Greg Stoutenburg: It just helps.
321 00:31:19.430 ⇒ 00:31:27.169 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I don’t even… I don’t have it on this computer, I don’t have any, like… As you can see, my,
322 00:31:27.320 ⇒ 00:31:31.209 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: My… my skills are very empty inside of.
323 00:31:31.210 ⇒ 00:31:32.110 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
324 00:31:32.110 ⇒ 00:31:32.680 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: No?
325 00:31:33.100 ⇒ 00:31:41.820 Greg Stoutenburg: I guess I just wondered, like, the folder that you pointed it at, did it have something that it could reference to build this, or is it just… Claude’s just doing its thing because it knows how to make financial projections?
326 00:31:42.000 ⇒ 00:31:43.929 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: God is just doing its thing now.
327 00:31:43.930 ⇒ 00:31:44.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Sweet.
328 00:31:44.710 ⇒ 00:31:49.210 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, in fact, like, I was building my data room,
329 00:31:49.800 ⇒ 00:31:53.340 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: For… for my fundraise, and it did everything.
330 00:31:53.440 ⇒ 00:32:01.930 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I just provided it my, incorporation docs, my cap table, and it built everything.
331 00:32:03.800 ⇒ 00:32:04.560 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s amazing.
332 00:32:04.560 ⇒ 00:32:08.119 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And my investors had no idea. They’re just like, oh, this is great.
333 00:32:08.120 ⇒ 00:32:09.150 Greg Stoutenburg: They shouldn’t care.
334 00:32:09.880 ⇒ 00:32:10.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
335 00:32:10.620 ⇒ 00:32:11.440 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: cool, like.
336 00:32:11.440 ⇒ 00:32:14.399 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool. Claude and I are the team.
337 00:32:14.400 ⇒ 00:32:20.240 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, I mean, me and my CTO, we have a joke, like, we always send each other, like, in Claude, we trust, because it’s like…
338 00:32:21.020 ⇒ 00:32:26.780 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, it’s just… yeah, like, there’s very little I need to do, little edits I need to make that, like.
339 00:32:26.780 ⇒ 00:32:27.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
340 00:32:27.560 ⇒ 00:32:39.440 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Once… once I… like, since I’ve gotten to the point where so many things just, like, end in my inbox, like, I even have… I even have, like, Claude, like, straight up send stuff to, you know, to some of my team.
341 00:32:39.440 ⇒ 00:32:40.100 Greg Stoutenburg: Chef.
342 00:32:40.370 ⇒ 00:32:45.270 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, oh, hey, you know, this is the brief for, you know, for the agenda for this week, and it’s like.
343 00:32:46.040 ⇒ 00:32:55.729 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like, I don’t even send it myself, I just… I just had a task, I give it access to my Gmail MCP, and then it will send it on my behalf.
344 00:32:56.220 ⇒ 00:32:57.100 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s amazing.
345 00:32:57.440 ⇒ 00:32:57.890 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah.
346 00:32:57.890 ⇒ 00:32:58.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Cheers.
347 00:32:59.070 ⇒ 00:33:10.559 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, it makes you look like… it makes you also look like a 10X, like, communicator. They’re just like, oh wow, thank you so much for sending that brief. Oh, this was great context. I was like, I literally just spent 3 minutes on this.
348 00:33:10.750 ⇒ 00:33:13.590 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Right. I did, like, zero work, real work, it’s just…
349 00:33:13.590 ⇒ 00:33:14.230 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.
350 00:33:14.230 ⇒ 00:33:14.639 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: took the.
351 00:33:14.640 ⇒ 00:33:15.829 Greg Stoutenburg: I just said, okay.
352 00:33:16.300 ⇒ 00:33:17.640 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Okay, that’s it, and then…
353 00:33:17.640 ⇒ 00:33:18.830 Greg Stoutenburg: And then…
354 00:33:18.830 ⇒ 00:33:29.550 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like I said, the more you use it, the more it, you know, via the skill, like, skill creator, it just, it just gets better at that consistent output, and then you never have to look at it again.
355 00:33:29.760 ⇒ 00:33:37.630 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Man, that’s amazing. Yeah. Man, for Brainforge stuff, I feel like I wanna, like, be like, hey, UTom, move us to Claude.
356 00:33:37.930 ⇒ 00:33:38.919 Greg Stoutenburg: Because of the.
357 00:33:38.920 ⇒ 00:33:42.990 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: The thing is, it’s like, we have such hot… we’ve already, like, dove so deep into Cursor.
358 00:33:42.990 ⇒ 00:33:43.440 Greg Stoutenburg: Fair enough.
359 00:33:43.670 ⇒ 00:33:49.990 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I, yeah, I use both, like, I have cursor open here, and then I’ll just, like, if…
360 00:33:50.280 ⇒ 00:33:53.799 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: because I’m so used to my workflow being within coworker, or…
361 00:33:53.800 ⇒ 00:33:54.120 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
362 00:33:54.430 ⇒ 00:33:59.770 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: or Cloud Code. Yeah. But I just make sure it’s in the same folder, and it’s, like, the same thing. It just…
363 00:33:59.770 ⇒ 00:34:00.130 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
364 00:34:00.130 ⇒ 00:34:06.690 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: just puts all those same outputs in the same place. Yeah. And yeah, it’s, like, no different, so… Yeah.
365 00:34:07.700 ⇒ 00:34:09.040 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, sweet.
366 00:34:09.159 ⇒ 00:34:09.980 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool.
367 00:34:10.130 ⇒ 00:34:17.789 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, yeah, if I… so if I can ask, like, for, you know, you’ve mentioned, like, a handful of businesses. As far as, like, the overall operation,
368 00:34:18.870 ⇒ 00:34:23.549 Greg Stoutenburg: Where are… where do you… where do you see those human input
369 00:34:24.300 ⇒ 00:34:34.209 Greg Stoutenburg: pieces needed, right? So you’re organizing all this stuff with Claude, you’re running all these automations, something is going out to a team somewhere. Where are the intervention points that aren’t
370 00:34:34.790 ⇒ 00:34:37.129 Greg Stoutenburg: Run by a script or a cluster.
371 00:34:37.139 ⇒ 00:34:39.939 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Well, meetings is one.
372 00:34:39.940 ⇒ 00:34:40.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
373 00:34:40.260 ⇒ 00:34:44.309 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: big, big thing. I think second is,
374 00:34:44.750 ⇒ 00:34:50.130 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, anything, anything that has to do with, like, creativity?
375 00:34:50.260 ⇒ 00:35:05.739 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah. So, that’s, like, heavily inputted still. Creativity and relationship building. So, like, you have… you still have to write your emails. Like, there… even… even with agents, like, there’s only so much they can do that, like.
376 00:35:05.980 ⇒ 00:35:13.150 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: over time, you just, like, no, it’s… it’s not, like, you’re not really building anything real with them, right? Right. And so…
377 00:35:13.710 ⇒ 00:35:23.189 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, that would be, like, the biggest ones is, like, anything to do with, like, social media, anything to do with relationship building, anything to do with sales.
378 00:35:23.250 ⇒ 00:35:37.870 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, you can have a sales process and, like, storing data in places, but, like, I was trying to use Claude with, like, Sales Nav the other day, and it was just getting everything wrong. It was just, like, it was making all these assumptions, and I was like, that is, like, not…
379 00:35:37.870 ⇒ 00:35:45.980 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like, strategically, that is not how you tackle, like, lead gen, you know? Right. But I mean, once again, it’s like, maybe it’s, like, one model away from, like.
380 00:35:45.980 ⇒ 00:35:47.760 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, right, give it a month, yeah.
381 00:35:47.760 ⇒ 00:36:00.560 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, but I would say, like, those are the main ones, other than… because, like, that’s literally all I do for, for, like, my work now, is just, like, I sit in meetings, give feedback, give, like, you know, coaching. Yep.
382 00:36:00.690 ⇒ 00:36:10.970 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: But, yeah, like… but the one thing, like, AI can’t do is, like, have good taste and, like, good design principles. Yeah.
383 00:36:11.060 ⇒ 00:36:28.519 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, or process, like, it will always follow, like, a certain process, right? It has, like, that has been trained for it to be optimized on, but it can’t think outside the box of that system or that process, and so a lot of, like, human intervention is, like.
384 00:36:28.670 ⇒ 00:36:39.250 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: no, there’s a better way to do this. Or, hey, there are more inputs that maybe we should look at, right? So there’s always a dialogue between me and the agents, because…
385 00:36:39.640 ⇒ 00:36:44.010 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, but even though they have good reasoning, it’s not creative reasoning.
386 00:36:44.310 ⇒ 00:36:45.410 Greg Stoutenburg: Right? So… Right.
387 00:36:45.410 ⇒ 00:36:53.419 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So yeah, but so that’s… but like I said, like, once it gets… once you put all that stuff in a skill, you just automate that part away, too.
388 00:36:53.420 ⇒ 00:36:54.479 Greg Stoutenburg: Right, right.
389 00:36:54.480 ⇒ 00:37:01.629 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Like, you’re tipping away at the stuff that you actually, like, that are just busy work, and then you actually focus on the stuff you want to do.
390 00:37:01.980 ⇒ 00:37:03.040 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
391 00:37:03.790 ⇒ 00:37:04.240 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So…
392 00:37:04.240 ⇒ 00:37:05.750 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Cool.
393 00:37:06.210 ⇒ 00:37:08.580 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
394 00:37:08.720 ⇒ 00:37:14.839 Greg Stoutenburg: I got thinking to do. I need to s- I need to take, like, a half an hour this week and just go…
395 00:37:15.000 ⇒ 00:37:19.230 Greg Stoutenburg: like, what’s my ideal process, just for running my few clients at Brainforge?
396 00:37:19.530 ⇒ 00:37:26.260 Greg Stoutenburg: Because, as much as we’ve gotten cursor already in the skills that NewTom and B have built, like, I still feel like…
397 00:37:26.550 ⇒ 00:37:28.960 Greg Stoutenburg: there are ways that I could get
398 00:37:29.120 ⇒ 00:37:41.629 Greg Stoutenburg: whether it’s Claude or cursor, to be proactive for me, so that I can do more of, like, yeah, okay, or yeah, I’ll do this now, rather than feeling like I’m manually scraping through and catching up on what I need to do next.
399 00:37:41.860 ⇒ 00:37:46.010 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, I totally forgot. They added webhooks last week.
400 00:37:46.260 ⇒ 00:37:51.199 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: I haven’t had a… I haven’t had… I haven’t had time to, like, you know, test webhooks.
401 00:37:51.200 ⇒ 00:37:51.560 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
402 00:37:51.720 ⇒ 00:37:53.040 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: webhooks?
403 00:37:53.590 ⇒ 00:38:01.680 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like, that’s basically how we built Discord bots. I don’t know if you’re familiar with, like, the Discord infrastructure, but, like,
404 00:38:01.810 ⇒ 00:38:04.959 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Discord’s a glorified Electron app, and so…
405 00:38:04.960 ⇒ 00:38:05.440 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
406 00:38:05.440 ⇒ 00:38:09.380 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: is like a webhook. It’s like, oh, someone sends a message, that’s a webhook, blah blah blah, right?
407 00:38:09.380 ⇒ 00:38:09.920 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, okay.
408 00:38:09.920 ⇒ 00:38:15.349 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: It’s like a very reactive thing. Now that Claude supports webhooks.
409 00:38:15.510 ⇒ 00:38:27.039 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: you could, like, a client sends a message, or a client sends an email. You could have it that it, like, detects it, and then, like, send an email 15 minutes later. Send an email, a response 10 minutes later. Right.
410 00:38:27.620 ⇒ 00:38:32.580 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: like I said, I haven’t tried it yet, but, like, as soon as they released that, I was like, that is…
411 00:38:32.840 ⇒ 00:38:34.560 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: That is huge.
412 00:38:34.560 ⇒ 00:38:35.620 Greg Stoutenburg: Amazing, but yeah.
413 00:38:35.620 ⇒ 00:38:38.269 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Because, like, you don’t even need APIs, like, for.
414 00:38:38.270 ⇒ 00:38:38.600 Greg Stoutenburg: Right?
415 00:38:38.600 ⇒ 00:38:50.070 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: UMCP, it’s like, if you can get an API call from a webhook, I mean, that’s it. You can get… you can talk to any website, or respond based on any website on the planet now.
416 00:38:50.250 ⇒ 00:38:50.890 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
417 00:38:51.400 ⇒ 00:38:53.520 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: And so, yeah, they just released that last week, so…
418 00:38:53.520 ⇒ 00:38:54.360 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s cool.
419 00:38:54.650 ⇒ 00:38:58.539 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, if you were thinking about proactive, like, more proactivity in.
420 00:38:58.540 ⇒ 00:38:59.280 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
421 00:38:59.280 ⇒ 00:39:02.440 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Correspondence, or emails, or stuff like that, like, yeah.
422 00:39:02.440 ⇒ 00:39:02.850 Greg Stoutenburg: button.
423 00:39:02.850 ⇒ 00:39:04.229 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Released that last week, so…
424 00:39:04.230 ⇒ 00:39:06.420 Greg Stoutenburg: And it’ll just do it for you. Jeez, that’s amazing.
425 00:39:06.700 ⇒ 00:39:08.110 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: So, sweet.
426 00:39:08.330 ⇒ 00:39:11.150 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Anyways, so yeah, just think about that, Greg, if you have any questions.
427 00:39:11.150 ⇒ 00:39:12.420 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool. Yeah.
428 00:39:13.760 ⇒ 00:39:16.339 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, thanks for your time. This has been really helpful. I really appreciate it.
429 00:39:16.340 ⇒ 00:39:16.889 Jorrel Sto. Tomas: Yeah, you’re very welcome.
430 00:39:16.890 ⇒ 00:39:19.010 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah. Alright. Alright. Talk soon. See ya.