Meeting Title: Brainforge Dashboard Development Sync Date: 2026-03-31 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Advait Nandakumar Menon, Demilade Agboola, Greg Stoutenburg
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1 00:00:59.070 ⇒ 00:01:00.020 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Hey!
2 00:01:00.770 ⇒ 00:01:01.630 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, dude.
3 00:01:03.550 ⇒ 00:01:04.500 Advait Nandakumar Menon: How’s it going?
4 00:01:06.020 ⇒ 00:01:07.609 Uttam Kumaran: Good, I’m heading home soon.
5 00:01:09.810 ⇒ 00:01:10.640 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Nice.
6 00:01:10.750 ⇒ 00:01:13.190 Advait Nandakumar Menon: There is, element-based…
7 00:01:14.070 ⇒ 00:01:19.410 Uttam Kumaran: They’re based out of, they’re based out of Montana, but, they have teammates kind of everywhere.
8 00:01:21.940 ⇒ 00:01:24.059 Uttam Kumaran: FEMAs, like, kind of all over the US, so…
9 00:01:25.920 ⇒ 00:01:31.149 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah. No, what I really meant is, where is Shivani based? Like, you guys flew in to visit her, right?
10 00:01:31.360 ⇒ 00:01:32.790 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, in New York, in New York.
11 00:01:33.980 ⇒ 00:01:35.930 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah, New York, okay, okay, yeah.
12 00:01:35.930 ⇒ 00:01:37.400 Uttam Kumaran: She’s based here in New York.
13 00:01:37.570 ⇒ 00:01:40.299 Uttam Kumaran: And then Robert’s also here in New York.
14 00:01:42.810 ⇒ 00:01:48.210 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I just came for the day, because we’re trying to, like, Finish this next contract, and…
15 00:01:48.880 ⇒ 00:01:52.400 Uttam Kumaran: She wanted to meet everybody, and, you know, I said, okay, fine.
16 00:01:52.970 ⇒ 00:01:53.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
17 00:01:53.920 ⇒ 00:01:54.580 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah.
18 00:01:54.870 ⇒ 00:01:57.090 Advait Nandakumar Menon: So, wasn’t it a success?
19 00:01:58.320 ⇒ 00:02:12.339 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll see! I mean, you guys are great. I mean, I don’t think you could have done any better. I mean, it was… I think it’s going really well. So, ultimately, I’m leaving in, like, 10-15 minutes, and then it’ll be up to Robert to sort of
20 00:02:12.700 ⇒ 00:02:15.490 Uttam Kumaran: Figure out the rest, so…
21 00:02:17.100 ⇒ 00:02:18.290 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah, yeah.
22 00:02:19.030 ⇒ 00:02:20.140 Uttam Kumaran: The pressure’s on him.
23 00:02:27.310 ⇒ 00:02:37.680 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, maybe we could just get started. Yeah, I just wanted to kind of, like… one thing I just want to make sure is that, like, Advay, you’re clear that, like, on what the requirements are for…
24 00:02:37.920 ⇒ 00:02:46.469 Uttam Kumaran: you know, these active dashboards, I’m assuming at the moment, like, you’re basically going to be owning the development of all default dashboards.
25 00:02:46.640 ⇒ 00:02:53.740 Uttam Kumaran: So one thing is, I just want to make sure that that’s, like, that’s crystal clear, and, like, you and Greg are, like, super on the same page.
26 00:02:53.980 ⇒ 00:02:58.380 Uttam Kumaran: And then we have these meetings, the one was supposed to be today, but one tomorrow.
27 00:02:58.400 ⇒ 00:03:16.350 Uttam Kumaran: Where we will be getting some more requirements from stakeholders, and so I just want to make sure that this crew is on the same page. Mustafa’s gonna be on vacation, so I’m gonna be helping out a little bit here, but really, like, I’m kind of relying on… on you and Greg on driving everything on the dashboard, and, like.
28 00:03:16.560 ⇒ 00:03:23.559 Uttam Kumaran: QA, getting feedback size, so that Demi and I can just make sure modeling and things are… are set up.
29 00:03:23.730 ⇒ 00:03:27.630 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I think, basically, it’s like, you can rely on Greg for comms and, like.
30 00:03:28.050 ⇒ 00:03:32.219 Uttam Kumaran: you know, stakeholder management, but then I’m like, okay, Advait’s, like.
31 00:03:32.580 ⇒ 00:03:35.930 Uttam Kumaran: Creating all the dashboards, ensuring Blobby’s in a good spot.
32 00:03:36.110 ⇒ 00:03:40.099 Uttam Kumaran: so that you and Greg can both, like, go into a call. Greg manages, like.
33 00:03:40.480 ⇒ 00:03:50.020 Uttam Kumaran: what we’re talking about today, agenda, like, how does this form into the whole project? And then you’re, like, super deep on, like, the datum on the topics, you’re super deep on the viz.
34 00:03:50.350 ⇒ 00:03:51.499 Uttam Kumaran: That’s it. No.
35 00:03:52.750 ⇒ 00:03:53.400 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Okay.
36 00:03:53.790 ⇒ 00:03:55.690 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Does that make sense? Yeah. I’m not.
37 00:03:55.720 ⇒ 00:04:09.799 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah, that makes sense. So, I jumped right into that customer enablement dashboard, right? So, I was just looking where to clean it up, and I think. So, I haven’t really gotten into the underlying data sources and models, like, all the different topics and tables available.
38 00:04:09.820 ⇒ 00:04:19.000 Advait Nandakumar Menon: So, I think that’s where a little bit of a gap is there with respect to the feedback which Teresa and Greg just shared, so…
39 00:04:19.000 ⇒ 00:04:32.499 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah, so I’m a little confused as to some of the metrics, where to source the data from, or which table, or if an existing topic doesn’t have those tables and views, should I join it? So, I should just get, be cleared on that.
40 00:04:32.920 ⇒ 00:04:33.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
41 00:04:34.160 ⇒ 00:04:38.190 Greg Stoutenburg: Super quick, can I… can I put a reschedule somewhere here tomorrow morning?
42 00:04:39.040 ⇒ 00:04:41.109 Greg Stoutenburg: This mainly affect you, Tom?
43 00:04:41.750 ⇒ 00:04:47.389 Uttam Kumaran: I think that should work.
44 00:04:47.890 ⇒ 00:04:48.220 Greg Stoutenburg: I can…
45 00:04:48.390 ⇒ 00:04:48.919 Uttam Kumaran: I’m fine.
46 00:04:48.920 ⇒ 00:04:49.840 Greg Stoutenburg: You can kick back.
47 00:04:49.840 ⇒ 00:04:51.190 Uttam Kumaran: tomorrow morning.
48 00:04:51.380 ⇒ 00:04:53.709 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, okay. Well, let’s just say no, then.
49 00:04:54.390 ⇒ 00:04:57.270 Uttam Kumaran: I would prefer Thursday morning.
50 00:04:57.270 ⇒ 00:04:59.969 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, okay. Yeah, it’s not an emergency. Yeah.
51 00:04:59.970 ⇒ 00:05:00.400 Demilade Agboola: Good evening.
52 00:05:00.400 ⇒ 00:05:02.120 Greg Stoutenburg: I’ll propose,
53 00:05:02.790 ⇒ 00:05:07.650 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I’ll go in here. I need to come off these Eden meetings anyway. Okay, cool.
54 00:05:08.610 ⇒ 00:05:09.510 Greg Stoutenburg: Proceed.
55 00:05:09.990 ⇒ 00:05:20.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I think maybe a good question, Demi, I think this is a great slot for, like, I think even just, like, how this crew is gonna work. Like, I think any questions on where data
56 00:05:20.330 ⇒ 00:05:27.929 Uttam Kumaran: basically, like, where to find data in the marts, or what’s it defined as, I think it’s gonna be squarely between you and Demi.
57 00:05:28.040 ⇒ 00:05:30.710 Uttam Kumaran: I think Advait, I’m expecting you to own, like.
58 00:05:30.920 ⇒ 00:05:39.189 Uttam Kumaran: topic… in this sense, I don’t think you’ve created the first topics, but let’s just say, from now, the topics are yours, right? Oh, okay. And then the parts are demi.
59 00:05:39.900 ⇒ 00:05:51.520 Uttam Kumaran: I’m… I’m gonna sub in, just, like, helping out, but, like, consider me backup, in terms of, like, when staff is off. So, I’ll help move forward ingestion, and then I’ll be playing backup to Demi if he needs it, but…
60 00:05:51.690 ⇒ 00:05:56.720 Uttam Kumaran: Anything on the marts, I feel like that’s… and how things are defined, where to find stuff.
61 00:05:56.840 ⇒ 00:06:00.849 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I think anything topics, blobby, Advait, you’re building, and then…
62 00:06:01.290 ⇒ 00:06:01.680 Advait Nandakumar Menon: owns a.
63 00:06:01.680 ⇒ 00:06:04.999 Uttam Kumaran: All the account management, sort of higher level planning, yeah.
64 00:06:06.630 ⇒ 00:06:07.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
65 00:06:09.930 ⇒ 00:06:10.550 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yep.
66 00:06:10.550 ⇒ 00:06:27.670 Greg Stoutenburg: And Advait, Amber has really come a very long way, very quickly, in topic building, and understanding… and this is the really important part that I think we didn’t really have before, since this is only our second, like, Omni project at this level, is understanding the connection between what you have built in the topic and the responses that Blobby is delivering.
67 00:06:27.670 ⇒ 00:06:31.679 Greg Stoutenburg: Some of the things that she’s caught, even just today, for Eden.
68 00:06:31.680 ⇒ 00:06:45.610 Greg Stoutenburg: have been, like, really useful stuff, and she’s… she’s sort of, like, pushing PRs to help document this. So, you know, lean on her as a source of expertise on this, you know, freely. I know that she’s already sort of done some handoff, but, like.
69 00:06:45.770 ⇒ 00:07:00.110 Greg Stoutenburg: you don’t have to consider yourself fully handed off. Like, you’re still doing a good job if you’re leaning on her, like, hey, can you help me test out this topic, or where is this topic going to lead us as far as blobby outputs for, for the client?
70 00:07:02.730 ⇒ 00:07:03.310 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yep.
71 00:07:04.550 ⇒ 00:07:07.039 Demilade Agboola: Alright, so just also, like, in terms of,
72 00:07:07.740 ⇒ 00:07:13.860 Demilade Agboola: like, the metrics you’re looking for, like, in terms of activity. If you have a definition for activity, I can help with modeling
73 00:07:13.930 ⇒ 00:07:31.980 Demilade Agboola: that, so maybe, like, active users over the last, like, 30 days or whatever, like, whatever that means for activity, just let me know. I don’t think that’s currently modeled, and so once we get that, like, requirement and what that means, we can always make that happen in dbt, and that’ll propagate into, the topic you’re looking at.
74 00:07:33.110 ⇒ 00:07:34.500 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Okay, okay.
75 00:07:35.500 ⇒ 00:07:38.599 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so one way to think about it, Avid, is, like, first.
76 00:07:39.110 ⇒ 00:07:51.860 Uttam Kumaran: like, get an understanding about default, the business. Like, use the product, like, we have the product, at Brainforge, so get an understanding. I think you could probably get enough of that from Greg and from…
77 00:07:52.030 ⇒ 00:07:56.099 Uttam Kumaran: like, the platform, and then I think, form an opinion on, like.
78 00:07:56.210 ⇒ 00:08:02.979 Uttam Kumaran: What the things that they want to see are in that dashboard, and then you can start to own, hey, we’re missing this.
79 00:08:03.090 ⇒ 00:08:05.700 Uttam Kumaran: I need this in the, in the, in the marts table.
80 00:08:05.850 ⇒ 00:08:07.789 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I think that’s a natural flow.
81 00:08:08.090 ⇒ 00:08:09.200 Uttam Kumaran: Versus…
82 00:08:09.520 ⇒ 00:08:20.930 Uttam Kumaran: hey, I don’t even know what an activity is, I don’t know what default does. I can put a spar chart on an activity, but, like, I need a deeper understanding. So that’s probably what I would suggest. I think my point is…
83 00:08:21.110 ⇒ 00:08:25.030 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t wait too long, if you can.
84 00:08:25.180 ⇒ 00:08:25.890 Uttam Kumaran: So…
85 00:08:25.890 ⇒ 00:08:29.560 Greg Stoutenburg: I call this the speed of Brainforge. This is a Brainforge speed project.
86 00:08:29.560 ⇒ 00:08:34.519 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not that complicated of a… it’s like Calendly. They’re like Calendly, so it’s like calendars.
87 00:08:34.520 ⇒ 00:08:35.030 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Huh.
88 00:08:35.039 ⇒ 00:08:36.379 Uttam Kumaran: Routing for events.
89 00:08:36.380 ⇒ 00:08:37.020 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah.
90 00:08:37.630 ⇒ 00:08:43.970 Uttam Kumaran: if you’re… if it’s more than two days, don’t… one of us could explain it to you, but I feel like you’re gonna get it really quick. I guess more of what I’m saying
91 00:08:44.960 ⇒ 00:08:51.369 Uttam Kumaran: what would be awesome to come into, like, if we think about going above and beyond, coming into that meeting with Deanna on Thursday.
92 00:08:51.550 ⇒ 00:08:57.489 Uttam Kumaran: you have a really good understanding of the things that she… she wrote with me. I also have a good understanding.
93 00:08:57.840 ⇒ 00:09:02.459 Uttam Kumaran: And then Greg can wrap this whole thing into linear, and then we’re able to
94 00:09:02.650 ⇒ 00:09:05.840 Uttam Kumaran: The following week, basically, clear all of her…
95 00:09:06.370 ⇒ 00:09:12.120 Uttam Kumaran: sort of feedback, you know? I think one thing that I was worried about is that I met with her, like, 4 months ago.
96 00:09:12.600 ⇒ 00:09:13.650 Uttam Kumaran: And then
97 00:09:13.930 ⇒ 00:09:31.200 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think she’s gonna… they’re all really nice people, but, like, the dashboard was just not in, like, a really great, like, visual state, even though we did so much engineering, modeling, topic building to get there, that sometimes I’m worried that, like, if the dashboard’s ugly, then they’re gonna be like, what did we even do? And it’s, like, sort of like a…
98 00:09:31.200 ⇒ 00:09:31.770 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Hmm.
99 00:09:31.770 ⇒ 00:09:37.799 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just sort of, like, in the back of my head always when we’re presenting dashboards, that sometimes the business stakeholders
100 00:09:37.870 ⇒ 00:09:52.340 Uttam Kumaran: that’s ultimately what they can chew on, right? They don’t… they can’t chew on anything behind. Yeah. So even just, like, some light polish, and if you’re able to ask some follow-up questions, I think it’s gonna go a super long way. And then, basically, Deanna…
101 00:09:52.530 ⇒ 00:10:03.829 Uttam Kumaran: You and Greg will own the relationship with Deanna, so Deanna’s a key person, Caitlin’s a key person, and then Lev and Nandiga are the key people right now, so…
102 00:10:03.830 ⇒ 00:10:04.550 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Okay.
103 00:10:04.550 ⇒ 00:10:07.079 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s sort of who we want to sort of circle around.
104 00:10:08.040 ⇒ 00:10:08.620 Demilade Agboola: -Oh.
105 00:10:08.620 ⇒ 00:10:10.160 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Sure.
106 00:10:11.150 ⇒ 00:10:11.670 Demilade Agboola: on the…
107 00:10:11.670 ⇒ 00:10:12.189 Advait Nandakumar Menon: You can go ahead.
108 00:10:12.190 ⇒ 00:10:20.739 Demilade Agboola: Customer enablement dashboard, because we’re looking at it right now. I know that you want to have, like, filters for the customer, like, support managers, right?
109 00:10:21.620 ⇒ 00:10:24.179 Greg Stoutenburg: There’s already a customer filter on there.
110 00:10:24.900 ⇒ 00:10:27.010 Demilade Agboola: No, no, no, like, the cost, like… Yeah, I think the…
111 00:10:27.010 ⇒ 00:10:28.100 Uttam Kumaran: Managers.
112 00:10:28.100 ⇒ 00:10:29.229 Demilade Agboola: All of the… Oh, I’m sorry.
113 00:10:29.230 ⇒ 00:10:30.829 Greg Stoutenburg: I didn’t hear you say manager, yeah.
114 00:10:30.830 ⇒ 00:10:37.029 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think so, although I don’t know if they even have that, or if it’s in Salesforce.
115 00:10:37.560 ⇒ 00:10:42.560 Demilade Agboola: So, it is in Salesforce, so I would have to join Salesforce data into this.
116 00:10:42.710 ⇒ 00:10:44.350 Demilade Agboola: To be able to get that context.
117 00:10:45.370 ⇒ 00:10:51.480 Demilade Agboola: Because this is basically their product data, so once we can get Salesforce data, like, we can just do a joint. Yeah, and I would say for sure.
118 00:10:52.030 ⇒ 00:10:54.969 Uttam Kumaran: They’re gonna want, they’re gonna be interested. So they’re basically, like.
119 00:10:55.210 ⇒ 00:11:10.409 Uttam Kumaran: think about, like, if… when… when we’re selling a renewal for an account, I want to see who is all the people at Brainforge that have worked. What are the things we delivered? How are they… I mean, we don’t sell a product, but let’s say, how are they using the Brainforge platform, right? How many users do they have?
120 00:11:10.550 ⇒ 00:11:13.990 Uttam Kumaran: They want a clear snapshot of, like, a customer health.
121 00:11:14.160 ⇒ 00:11:22.639 Uttam Kumaran: So that the account manager can then go to be like, you guys love default, we want to sell you more of this, right? That’s the story.
122 00:11:23.030 ⇒ 00:11:23.780 Uttam Kumaran: Ultimately.
123 00:11:27.190 ⇒ 00:11:37.589 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good. So, I’ll make some of those changes, and I’ll let you know when it’s live in there as well. Also, I think I’ll just put some time on your client advocate, maybe for, like, tomorrow, just…
124 00:11:37.590 ⇒ 00:11:38.559 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Yeah, that would help.
125 00:11:39.070 ⇒ 00:11:43.210 Demilade Agboola: Like, the Gaunts, what we’re trying to do,
126 00:11:43.360 ⇒ 00:11:51.299 Demilade Agboola: what I am currently in the process of doing, and where you’ll be able to, like, take off from, like, the modeling into building out the dashboards.
127 00:11:51.840 ⇒ 00:11:55.029 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Dashboard, yeah. Yeah. And that will help, definitely.
128 00:11:55.030 ⇒ 00:11:55.889 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good.
129 00:11:56.160 ⇒ 00:12:05.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and this is a client also where I think all of them are really, like… this is, like, a pretty high-flying, like, tech startup, so they’re all… they would all love to use Blobby, so I think…
130 00:12:06.160 ⇒ 00:12:10.400 Uttam Kumaran: the dashboard is good, I think nail it, but, like, also try to promote
131 00:12:10.600 ⇒ 00:12:16.860 Uttam Kumaran: blobby as much as you can. I think all of them are gonna use it a lot, especially if it’s working really well.
132 00:12:17.160 ⇒ 00:12:23.360 Uttam Kumaran: In addition to the dashboards, versus, like, a client like Element, I think they’re gonna be a little bit more, like, careful.
133 00:12:23.820 ⇒ 00:12:29.230 Uttam Kumaran: Versus default, they’re like… Chomping at the bit for this stuff, so…
134 00:12:30.230 ⇒ 00:12:30.680 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
135 00:12:30.680 ⇒ 00:12:31.820 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Okay.
136 00:12:32.080 ⇒ 00:12:48.030 Greg Stoutenburg: sort of, you know, on that topic, did you catch, Advait, when Shivani was saying, like, here’s the way I like to operate, if something is fully polished, like, communicate that. If it’s not, I, you know, I’m gonna have one sort of reaction,
137 00:12:48.210 ⇒ 00:12:52.230 Greg Stoutenburg: Fortunately, she’s telling us her preferences, so, you know, we can…
138 00:12:52.650 ⇒ 00:12:55.770 Greg Stoutenburg: We can keep that in mind, but that was… that was the,
139 00:12:56.030 ⇒ 00:13:13.859 Greg Stoutenburg: you know, this is not a criticism, but, like, that was the stickler in saying I will be a stickler about these, about these data points. So, let’s just, you know, make sure to really be on top of that. So that’s… that was a little behind the scenes on why I posted some of those messages in Slack this week, like, hey, let’s make sure to be,
140 00:13:14.370 ⇒ 00:13:20.529 Greg Stoutenburg: On the lookout for explicit clarity, what we mean when we say revenue, what we mean when we say sale, that sort of thing.
141 00:13:21.630 ⇒ 00:13:22.250 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Okay.
142 00:13:24.210 ⇒ 00:13:24.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
143 00:13:25.140 ⇒ 00:13:27.260 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, guys. Alright, Slack me if you need anything.
144 00:13:27.260 ⇒ 00:13:29.400 Greg Stoutenburg: Cool. Alright, see you guys. Thanks.
145 00:13:29.400 ⇒ 00:13:30.799 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Sounds good. See you guys.
146 00:13:30.930 ⇒ 00:13:31.730 Advait Nandakumar Menon: Love it.