Meeting Title: Pranav - Brylle - ABC + Andi Roadmap Date: 2026-03-19 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Pranav
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1 00:00:08.730 ⇒ 00:00:09.570 Brylle Girang: Hey.
2 00:00:16.520 ⇒ 00:00:17.430 Pranav: Hey, Beep.
3 00:00:17.960 ⇒ 00:00:19.660 Brylle Girang: So, how are you doing?
4 00:00:21.030 ⇒ 00:00:22.060 Pranav: Doing alright.
5 00:00:23.310 ⇒ 00:00:27.309 Brylle Girang: Tell me how you feel about the updates that you’re going to make.
6 00:00:31.710 ⇒ 00:00:33.009 Pranav: Sorry, what was that?
7 00:00:33.630 ⇒ 00:00:37.430 Brylle Girang: Tell me how you feel about the updates that we’re going to make, and then Utam’s feedback.
8 00:00:40.070 ⇒ 00:00:42.160 Pranav: The optics, you said?
9 00:00:42.390 ⇒ 00:00:43.709 Brylle Girang: the, the updates.
10 00:00:44.360 ⇒ 00:00:47.169 Pranav: the updates. Oh, okay.
11 00:00:47.370 ⇒ 00:00:55.120 Pranav: Yeah, I think I’m just realizing I’m just a little bit lost on just kind of, like, some of the feedback we were getting earlier this week.
12 00:00:55.290 ⇒ 00:01:01.330 Pranav: Not like y’all’s feedback, just kind of, I guess, me where I’m coming from.
13 00:01:01.450 ⇒ 00:01:07.609 Pranav: Yeah, things definitely seemed complex to me.
14 00:01:09.180 ⇒ 00:01:11.790 Pranav: And I would like to make things simpler.
15 00:01:11.970 ⇒ 00:01:14.439 Pranav: And so, I think things just…
16 00:01:15.540 ⇒ 00:01:23.689 Pranav: for whatever reason, I thought that wasn’t supposed to be the case. I thought we kind of wanted to get every single small ticket in there with descriptions,
17 00:01:24.380 ⇒ 00:01:28.169 Pranav: And… That seemed a little bit like overkill.
18 00:01:28.670 ⇒ 00:01:38.520 Pranav: What I’m doing right now is I’m just trying to think of things from, like, from scratch a little bit, while addressing also Utam’s request.
19 00:01:38.740 ⇒ 00:01:41.940 Pranav: And so I’m just going, like.
20 00:01:42.120 ⇒ 00:01:51.009 Pranav: Literally just straight from the initial three initiatives, and then going from there to, like, kind of define what the milestones should be.
21 00:01:51.710 ⇒ 00:02:06.150 Pranav: And then from there, yeah, figuring out exactly, like, what… like, timeline-wise, things make sense to me. I know dashboards-wise, Tom said, like, everything can be fully AI, and I…
22 00:02:06.390 ⇒ 00:02:13.339 Pranav: agree, like, if that’s… if that’s the case, like, then it won’t take that long.
23 00:02:13.800 ⇒ 00:02:24.139 Pranav: But that’s why I just kind of baked it in a little bit at the end, like, I didn’t even add that as part of the timeline. It’s just, you know, this is just, like, a parallel track that I’m just gonna be the only one supporting.
24 00:02:24.140 ⇒ 00:02:35.890 Pranav: So, like, if it takes me extra time, then it takes me extra time, but if it’s fully AI, and Utam said, like, he’ll kind of show me how it can be fully AI, then it should be pretty easy to ship, and it shouldn’t take me too much extra time.
25 00:02:36.710 ⇒ 00:02:40.420 Pranav: But yeah.
26 00:02:40.420 ⇒ 00:02:40.960 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
27 00:02:40.960 ⇒ 00:02:46.340 Pranav: I think with just AI, it was making it more complex, and I can just,
28 00:02:46.940 ⇒ 00:02:48.870 Pranav: Really reduce the complexity.
29 00:02:49.710 ⇒ 00:02:56.430 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, I agree, and I’m really sorry that we’re, like, going in circles here, because this is actually, like, the first
30 00:02:56.680 ⇒ 00:03:12.650 Brylle Girang: sample of, like, the new road mapping that we’re doing, especially when we’re moving to linear now. So, expect that this is going to be the most iterations that we’re going to make on one client, at least for now, as we’re trying to, like.
31 00:03:12.810 ⇒ 00:03:22.889 Brylle Girang: actually figure out the best way to do this, or the best way to create this roadmap. So, you can see that, Otam is also, like, trying to give feedback
32 00:03:24.790 ⇒ 00:03:42.590 Brylle Girang: real time, because we don’t really have the standard as of now, and this is going to be a good example, a good case study for the standards that we’re going to set. So, this is hard, because this is the first time that we’re doing this, and let’s just… let’s just bear through it, and then try to either.
33 00:03:42.590 ⇒ 00:03:45.730 Pranav: Yeah, yeah, just roll with the punches. Yeah, yeah, no, I can do that.
34 00:03:46.080 ⇒ 00:04:05.089 Brylle Girang: Yeah, so, going through the documents, I think we need to… I would love us to, like, prioritize Eden first, mainly because tomorrow is going to be the kickoff, and we want to make sure that this is ready before that, so once we get Eden out of the way, then we’ll move on to Andy.
35 00:04:05.230 ⇒ 00:04:10.159 Brylle Girang: I think the main, the main, the two main things that…
36 00:04:10.370 ⇒ 00:04:12.750 Brylle Girang: We need to adjust right now, is one.
37 00:04:13.870 ⇒ 00:04:22.409 Brylle Girang: ABC and ABC, the roadmap document that we created for both ABC, and Eden are, like.
38 00:04:23.620 ⇒ 00:04:33.120 Brylle Girang: the two extremes of the document that we want to create. ABC is super simple, and then Eden, is…
39 00:04:33.260 ⇒ 00:04:41.039 Brylle Girang: or even AI is super complex, like the document that you created, and you just want to, like, merge or create a balance between those two.
40 00:04:41.960 ⇒ 00:04:45.419 Brylle Girang: And I think the best way to go about it is how Utam said it.
41 00:04:45.550 ⇒ 00:05:00.020 Brylle Girang: Let’s create a document that shows, like, two sides of the same coin. The first side is going to be the client-facing, the initiatives, and then what we’re going to unlock for the client for each of those initiatives, and this is going to, like, focus really on the
42 00:05:00.180 ⇒ 00:05:14.389 Brylle Girang: if the client checks out this document, if we share this to the client, they would know how impactful it will be, but it… they don’t really need to care about how we’re going to do it, similar to how we’re treating it with Eden, right?
43 00:05:14.390 ⇒ 00:05:33.909 Brylle Girang: And then the other side would be, like, the more technical side of things, like, what are… what’s going to be our internal timelines? Well, there should still be timelines for the client-facing document, but this time, it’s going to be more about the allocations. It’s going to be more about how we’re actually going to do those stuff. And this is where, like, Sam.
44 00:05:34.180 ⇒ 00:05:38.409 Brylle Girang: Needs to give you, like, the most information about how we’re actually going to do it.
45 00:05:39.910 ⇒ 00:05:45.900 Brylle Girang: is that clear? Like, does that align with what you’re just… Understanding.
46 00:05:46.150 ⇒ 00:06:05.669 Pranav: I guess, what do we want to get done for tomorrow, is my question. Is it just, like, the first part that you said, like, just what are the initiatives? What is, like, the milestones that we want to hit in terms of, like, what will you be able to use, see, play around with, like, on a week-to-week basis?
47 00:06:06.250 ⇒ 00:06:10.080 Pranav: So is that kind of the document that you’re talking about we should work on right now?
48 00:06:10.420 ⇒ 00:06:24.189 Brylle Girang: I think we need to, like, complete the whole Eden AI document by tomorrow, mainly because we also don’t want to, like, over-commit something that Utam and our technical team doesn’t give the go signal on.
49 00:06:24.540 ⇒ 00:06:28.060 Brylle Girang: So, we need to prepare both sides for Eden.
50 00:06:28.740 ⇒ 00:06:30.580 Brylle Girang: Okay. Does that answer your question?
51 00:06:31.820 ⇒ 00:06:39.490 Pranav: Yeah, that answers my question, so yeah, we’ll make both documents. Okay, sounds good.
52 00:06:39.490 ⇒ 00:06:39.810 Brylle Girang: Okay.
53 00:06:39.810 ⇒ 00:06:51.749 Pranav: And so… but Utam did… He kind of said, like, He’s working on comments for… like, Sam’s PR, right?
54 00:06:54.780 ⇒ 00:07:03.289 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, so I think, yeah, he’s… the… More detailed technical implementation.
55 00:07:05.120 ⇒ 00:07:07.800 Pranav: To Haka milestones, as I get, like…
56 00:07:09.550 ⇒ 00:07:11.990 Pranav: Like, shouldn’t it be based off of the technical?
57 00:07:16.590 ⇒ 00:07:25.430 Brylle Girang: It should be based off on the technical requirements that Sam has shared, but the milestone should be more about, like, what is the client going to expect?
58 00:07:25.670 ⇒ 00:07:34.780 Brylle Girang: week by week. And I guess with what Sam has provided you, and with your conversations with Danny, we should be able to, like, create at least a rough draft of that.
59 00:07:35.470 ⇒ 00:07:36.100 Brylle Girang: Are you…
60 00:07:36.100 ⇒ 00:07:36.500 Pranav: Okay.
61 00:07:36.500 ⇒ 00:07:37.369 Brylle Girang: What do you think?
62 00:07:39.090 ⇒ 00:07:42.300 Pranav: Yeah, we can. I mean, I do agree, though, like…
63 00:07:42.990 ⇒ 00:07:47.270 Pranav: Some of this process probably, like, will be refined in the future, but…
64 00:07:47.900 ⇒ 00:07:50.649 Pranav: Like, what we should probably do to just, like…
65 00:07:50.960 ⇒ 00:07:57.560 Pranav: save on time, and just save on, like, revisions and number of documents we’re making. It’s just like, okay, let’s first get…
66 00:07:57.700 ⇒ 00:08:01.660 Pranav: Sign off on the technical, and then we create.
67 00:08:01.880 ⇒ 00:08:07.689 Pranav: the milestones and what we’re gonna present to the client to say, like, okay, we’ll have X, Y, and Z done.
68 00:08:08.370 ⇒ 00:08:09.120 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah.
69 00:08:09.120 ⇒ 00:08:14.149 Pranav: this is a unique situation, everything’s happening so quick, like… yeah, I agree, let’s just…
70 00:08:14.360 ⇒ 00:08:19.719 Pranav: Let’s just get something out there, so then when we have to create the milestones and initiatives for the client, then we can…
71 00:08:20.050 ⇒ 00:08:22.789 Pranav: Just make fewer edits, and probably…
72 00:08:23.000 ⇒ 00:08:26.079 Pranav: Get it shipped out faster, even though it may take more hours.
73 00:08:26.690 ⇒ 00:08:38.819 Brylle Girang: Yeah, our goal here is to, like, get things out for feedback as soon as possible, so that we can irritate as soon as possible, too. So, I remember that you were asking, like, what’s going to be
74 00:08:39.090 ⇒ 00:08:46.039 Brylle Girang: the delineation between the CSOs and SOs, so in this document, I’m thinking about it more like
75 00:08:46.300 ⇒ 00:08:49.920 Brylle Girang: the CSO should be focused on, like, the why.
76 00:08:50.240 ⇒ 00:09:07.100 Brylle Girang: for this document, throughout the planning, and with why that comes with what’s going to… why does the client need to care about these initiatives? And then the SLs would focus on the how. Like, how are we actually going to go through these initiatives? And then as the CSO, you would
77 00:09:07.130 ⇒ 00:09:17.249 Brylle Girang: you would hold the SL and yourself and the team accountable for the when for these projects. Like, when are we going to finish this? Do we have enough to finish this?
78 00:09:18.460 ⇒ 00:09:19.650 Brylle Girang: Does that make sense?
79 00:09:20.280 ⇒ 00:09:29.910 Pranav: Yeah, so, like, yeah, during the project is the one, like, making sure, like, we’re holding ourselves accountable to what we planned for, but in the beginning, it’s like, yeah, this is…
80 00:09:30.040 ⇒ 00:09:35.879 Pranav: what we need to build, and why we need to build it, and then Sam will define, like, how we build it.
81 00:09:36.570 ⇒ 00:09:40.650 Brylle Girang: Yeah, and since Sam is out today, so let’s leverage Mutam.
82 00:09:40.750 ⇒ 00:09:43.010 Brylle Girang: For the SL side of things.
83 00:09:43.920 ⇒ 00:09:44.670 Brylle Girang: Okay?
84 00:09:44.890 ⇒ 00:09:45.600 Pranav: Sounds good.
85 00:09:46.190 ⇒ 00:09:53.899 Brylle Girang: Alright, yeah, so let’s focus on Eden. If you could get, an updated draft, let’s review it together, and then let’s send it over to Uta for review.
86 00:09:56.070 ⇒ 00:10:00.789 Pranav: Okay, yeah, so do you want me to share the notion?
87 00:10:01.880 ⇒ 00:10:04.459 Brylle Girang: Have you, have you, like, updated?
88 00:10:05.180 ⇒ 00:10:06.570 Brylle Girang: The roadmap documents?
89 00:10:06.830 ⇒ 00:10:09.639 Brylle Girang: Were you able to, like, Implement the updates and.
90 00:10:09.640 ⇒ 00:10:10.970 Pranav: project milestones?
91 00:10:11.550 ⇒ 00:10:12.260 Brylle Girang: Yep.
92 00:10:12.260 ⇒ 00:10:19.589 Pranav: Yeah, there’s some stuff in here. I don’t know if you were following the Slack channel, where he was kind of talking about certain things, and…
93 00:10:19.780 ⇒ 00:10:28.610 Pranav: The document that he wanted to look at wasn’t the document I have written here. He wanted to look at the document that Sam provided, because he said, like, oh yeah, this is what I was looking for.
94 00:10:28.800 ⇒ 00:10:34.600 Pranav: So, yeah, maybe… I don’t know if you read that whole thread.
95 00:10:35.260 ⇒ 00:10:36.909 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, I was reading it.
96 00:10:37.690 ⇒ 00:10:40.760 Brylle Girang: I mean, they’re eating project milestones,
97 00:10:47.140 ⇒ 00:10:49.839 Brylle Girang: I guess you updated some of the…
98 00:10:52.030 ⇒ 00:10:57.120 Brylle Girang: some of the things that Utam had previous comments, right? For example, this one where
99 00:10:57.290 ⇒ 00:11:00.629 Brylle Girang: One of our milestones is that Danny should be able to
100 00:11:01.260 ⇒ 00:11:04.150 Brylle Girang: As total of 30 questions, that was updated, right?
101 00:11:06.950 ⇒ 00:11:08.510 Pranav: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I updated that.
102 00:11:10.150 ⇒ 00:11:10.760 Brylle Girang: Okay.
103 00:11:13.760 ⇒ 00:11:18.779 Pranav: Yeah, but he gave, like, all these, updates, and then we got kind of, like… we kind of,
104 00:11:19.260 ⇒ 00:11:22.000 Pranav: talked in the chat here, so I’m just wondering, like.
105 00:11:22.100 ⇒ 00:11:25.410 Pranav: I don’t even think these are the right milestones now.
106 00:11:25.810 ⇒ 00:11:30.019 Pranav: because Utam is gonna give feedback on…
107 00:11:30.860 ⇒ 00:11:41.039 Pranav: And I think what we should do is probably just, like, kind of… what I’m thinking is just start from scratch and use Sam’s timeline as a basis of, like, what are gonna be the actual deliverables.
108 00:11:41.510 ⇒ 00:11:50.490 Brylle Girang: Yeah, that’s a good first step. So, if you could, like, recreate the doc, create the doc from scratch, and then make sure that we implement Sam’s technical roadmap.
109 00:11:50.800 ⇒ 00:11:52.499 Brylle Girang: That should be a good first pass.
110 00:11:53.600 ⇒ 00:11:54.420 Pranav: Okay, cool.
111 00:11:54.790 ⇒ 00:11:56.619 Pranav: Just gonna create a new doc, I’m gonna…
112 00:11:56.850 ⇒ 00:12:00.549 Pranav: share it with you. Or, actually, I’ll just open it up to everybody.
113 00:12:02.180 ⇒ 00:12:06.120 Brylle Girang: Alright, do you want to, sink in in a bit, once you’re done?
114 00:12:09.010 ⇒ 00:12:12.670 Pranav: Yeah, sure, I also have to work on my slide deck for ABC.
115 00:12:13.060 ⇒ 00:12:18.720 Pranav: So I’m… have a few different things that I need to do.
116 00:12:22.630 ⇒ 00:12:29.349 Pranav: Yeah, because… this slide deck, I was hoping to kind of present on, like, some of the…
117 00:12:29.530 ⇒ 00:12:36.140 Pranav: And I was actually just gonna maybe ask them if they wanted to move it to tomorrow, just so we can have, like, a fully polished, like…
118 00:12:36.610 ⇒ 00:12:42.609 Pranav: discussion about… or a more polished discussion about what we’re gonna be working on April and May, but I’m…
119 00:12:42.970 ⇒ 00:12:45.849 Pranav: Right before this call, I was just trying to get them onto Slack.
120 00:12:46.250 ⇒ 00:12:50.049 Pranav: And so, with that, I was just gonna message them about that.
121 00:12:50.580 ⇒ 00:12:52.609 Pranav: Let me see where they’re at on that, actually.
122 00:14:18.230 ⇒ 00:14:22.510 Pranav: I’m also trying to think, though… Tomorrow, if…
123 00:14:22.750 ⇒ 00:14:28.080 Pranav: I’m going to change it to tomorrow, like, what am I actually going to be able to commit to in terms of finishing?
124 00:14:28.240 ⇒ 00:14:30.869 Pranav: If we have the Eden AI kickoff.
125 00:14:31.270 ⇒ 00:14:34.040 Pranav: There’s probably gonna be a lot of stuff that still needs to be done for Eden.
126 00:14:37.240 ⇒ 00:14:45.839 Pranav: I don’t want to commit to saying, like, we’ll get every single small thing finished for ABC Andy as well. I can probably say I could do that on Monday’s call.
127 00:14:46.210 ⇒ 00:14:50.160 Pranav: So, what I’ll probably do is just… Keep today’s call?
128 00:14:51.670 ⇒ 00:14:54.219 Pranav: And then let them know, like, hey, Monday we’ll have…
129 00:14:54.380 ⇒ 00:15:02.499 Pranav: the full step-by-step of, like, what’s gonna go down. And then we can just kind of have, like, a brief discussion on a high level of each of these things today.
130 00:15:04.720 ⇒ 00:15:12.629 Brylle Girang: Were you able to, like, converse with ABC on what their target milestones are, or what their ideas for the next 3 months are?
131 00:15:15.650 ⇒ 00:15:23.249 Pranav: For them, they’re trying to increase usage just the same as us. So they want to get all of the trainers,
132 00:15:23.450 ⇒ 00:15:31.979 Pranav: on board with that as well, and that’s what we had. Like, that was a discussion on Tuesday, to get every CSR using Andy, and so…
133 00:15:32.920 ⇒ 00:15:41.899 Pranav: that’s… that’s kind of what’s brought up all of these different projects that we’ve… we’ve brought up, so… that I’ve scoped out, I mean. So…
134 00:15:42.050 ⇒ 00:15:46.579 Pranav: These have been, like, parts of discussion before I even joined the client.
135 00:15:47.350 ⇒ 00:15:51.630 Pranav: Yeah, so they’re aware of all of these things,
136 00:15:51.740 ⇒ 00:15:56.080 Pranav: In terms of talking about, like, what an end-to-end product looks like.
137 00:15:56.260 ⇒ 00:15:58.430 Pranav: We haven’t… we haven’t discussed that.
138 00:15:58.790 ⇒ 00:16:15.399 Pranav: But now I have that full understanding. You know, I’ve explained it a bunch. I don’t… I mean, I think what we’re kind of just, like, refining is just what does that look like in terms of roadmap and just, like, breaking it up into milestones, but in terms of what we’re building itself, I don’t think that there’s any…
139 00:16:16.440 ⇒ 00:16:21.399 Pranav: There’s any issue or any kind of disc… further discussion needed on that.
140 00:16:23.110 ⇒ 00:16:27.570 Pranav: So, I think, yeah, that’s what I’m just gonna do, because I don’t think it makes sense for me to move it.
141 00:16:31.030 ⇒ 00:16:32.230 Brylle Girang: Okay, gotcha.
142 00:16:32.560 ⇒ 00:16:38.509 Brylle Girang: Yeah, let me know once you’re done with the first draft of the updated roadmap, and then…
143 00:16:38.710 ⇒ 00:16:39.440 Brylle Girang: That’s where it.
144 00:16:39.440 ⇒ 00:16:44.840 Pranav: Yeah, B, maybe… right now, what we can do is… if we can just, like, hop into…
145 00:16:45.570 ⇒ 00:16:51.400 Pranav: GitHub real quick, and then I’m just gonna tell you what I’m thinking in terms of, like.
146 00:16:51.400 ⇒ 00:16:51.740 Brylle Girang: Okay.
147 00:16:51.740 ⇒ 00:16:56.140 Pranav: what I’m about to… what I’m about to build, and you can just let me know if, like, that’s not the right…
148 00:16:56.590 ⇒ 00:16:57.889 Pranav: Right, first start.
149 00:16:59.280 ⇒ 00:16:59.900 Brylle Girang: Okay.
150 00:17:00.320 ⇒ 00:17:04.690 Pranav: Yeah, so… Okay, if you…
151 00:17:10.060 ⇒ 00:17:13.169 Pranav: Yeah, I’m just gonna go to his plan right here.
152 00:18:25.060 ⇒ 00:18:25.880 Pranav: Okay.
153 00:18:29.850 ⇒ 00:18:31.160 Pranav: So…
154 00:18:35.230 ⇒ 00:18:39.009 Pranav: Yeah, this is the technical approach that Sam built out.
155 00:18:44.930 ⇒ 00:18:50.510 Pranav: And then here he has, like, the initiatives… As well as the…
156 00:18:52.430 ⇒ 00:18:56.950 Pranav: Like, the two phases, as well as just, like, milestones here.
157 00:19:00.790 ⇒ 00:19:03.450 Pranav: And so what I’m thinking of doing is just…
158 00:19:04.120 ⇒ 00:19:09.280 Pranav: There’s a lot of milestones here, just condensing a few of them in terms of…
159 00:19:09.910 ⇒ 00:19:16.000 Pranav: What can be… or maybe not condensing them, but having certain…
160 00:19:16.560 ⇒ 00:19:23.810 Pranav: marks in certain areas where I feel like this is a good point to do a demo, this is a good point to, like, show the…
161 00:19:26.060 ⇒ 00:19:27.930 Pranav: the… the progress…
162 00:19:33.410 ⇒ 00:19:35.069 Pranav: We can actually even use.
163 00:19:36.060 ⇒ 00:19:36.610 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
164 00:19:38.940 ⇒ 00:19:45.870 Brylle Girang: Yeah, so I think this is more of the technical side. It would be good if we, like, create one milestone here.
165 00:19:46.020 ⇒ 00:19:50.079 Brylle Girang: That compresses the technical milestones into something that
166 00:19:50.290 ⇒ 00:20:07.029 Brylle Girang: Danny will be able to use, so I don’t 100% understand all of this, but maybe… what does it mean when Slack ingestion completes, calendar ingestion completes, etc, Gmail ingestion completes? Does that mean that by the end of these three milestones, Danny should be able to
167 00:20:07.150 ⇒ 00:20:16.129 Brylle Girang: gather information from these sources, etc. So, one milestone per each of these collected milestones. Does that make sense?
168 00:20:18.680 ⇒ 00:20:24.029 Pranav: Well, yeah, so I guess for that milestone, I need to then…
169 00:20:24.230 ⇒ 00:20:27.999 Pranav: it needs to be something that can be demoable, right? Like…
170 00:20:28.260 ⇒ 00:20:34.389 Pranav: When we say, like, a business-facing milestone for Danny, like, he has to see that something has been done.
171 00:20:35.480 ⇒ 00:20:37.079 Pranav: Right? That’s the whole idea.
172 00:20:37.570 ⇒ 00:20:45.930 Pranav: So, whether it’s, like, something that he can use, or it’s whether it’s something that, like, we can just present to him that shows, like, hey, look, we can do this now.
173 00:20:46.380 ⇒ 00:20:47.359 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
174 00:20:48.430 ⇒ 00:20:52.919 Pranav: Okay, so, yeah, okay, I’m thinking about it the same way, then.
175 00:20:53.830 ⇒ 00:20:58.389 Pranav: just based on the discussion I had with Uten, though, it’s like, he is a little bit…
176 00:20:59.580 ⇒ 00:21:06.880 Pranav: And I agree, too, with, like, Sam’s approach. He’s doing things technically that seem a little bit…
177 00:21:08.200 ⇒ 00:21:18.080 Pranav: over… over the top, potentially, for what we need to do. And it’s like… it’s a solution that works, but it may be just overkill. So…
178 00:21:18.220 ⇒ 00:21:22.790 Pranav: But, like we said, like, I’ll just build it out, and then we can make updates if needed.
179 00:21:23.600 ⇒ 00:21:24.130 Brylle Girang: Yep.
180 00:21:25.380 ⇒ 00:21:33.039 Pranav: Okay, sounds good. Yeah, that shouldn’t take too long. And then, like, so I’ll write down a milestone, right? Basically, just…
181 00:21:33.330 ⇒ 00:21:38.839 Pranav: description of what we will be presenting. What other…
182 00:21:39.210 ⇒ 00:21:43.899 Pranav: information should I put on that doc? Because that seems like a pretty short doc, then. It’ll be like.
183 00:21:44.010 ⇒ 00:21:48.330 Pranav: Maybe, like, 4 to 8 milestones within short descriptions of what we’ll present.
184 00:21:52.190 ⇒ 00:22:02.359 Brylle Girang: So if you could, like, break this down into initiatives, for example, Phase 1 can be broken down into Initiative 1 would be ingestion, Initiative 2 would be anonymization.
185 00:22:02.810 ⇒ 00:22:15.159 Brylle Girang: So that we can present, like, a timeline or a roadmap to Danny that would easily be digestible without him needing to go through this technical doc. That would be amazing.
186 00:22:17.830 ⇒ 00:22:33.639 Brylle Girang: Yeah, similar with Command Center, if we could break it down into initiatives where we can then break it down into smaller projects. So I’m imagining this as the Slack ingestion would be one project, calendar ingestion would be one project, Gmail ingestion would be one project.
187 00:22:33.780 ⇒ 00:22:38.599 Brylle Girang: So, if you check how linear projects work.
188 00:22:38.710 ⇒ 00:22:46.789 Brylle Girang: Otem wants us to create a document that would be, like, a written Copy of that linear roadmap.
189 00:22:50.330 ⇒ 00:22:51.080 Pranav: Okay.
190 00:22:51.190 ⇒ 00:22:54.289 Pranav: Yeah, I get that part, too.
191 00:22:54.590 ⇒ 00:22:56.580 Pranav: But my question is then, like.
192 00:22:56.730 ⇒ 00:23:01.740 Pranav: how should I think about breaking things up in a milestone? Because, like, if we’re just talking about anonymization, like.
193 00:23:02.620 ⇒ 00:23:06.569 Pranav: Okay, we just say, kind of, we completed anonymization? Where…
194 00:23:07.650 ⇒ 00:23:21.669 Pranav: I mean, that seems fine, right? Like, in terms of a presentation to Danny, he’ll be like, okay, at this point, anonymization is done, just so, like, he knows what’s going on. But do I… I was asking before, like, do we need to have, like, a demo, like, a presentation displaying, like.
195 00:23:21.820 ⇒ 00:23:27.420 Pranav: okay, these things have been done, let me show you. Or, like, because…
196 00:23:28.740 ⇒ 00:23:33.590 Pranav: Or is it really just translating these… These things here.
197 00:23:33.780 ⇒ 00:23:38.819 Pranav: Into things that are less technical and more,
198 00:23:39.090 ⇒ 00:23:45.999 Pranav: Digestible to just somebody that has, like, the… the business understanding, like Danny.
199 00:23:48.260 ⇒ 00:24:02.719 Brylle Girang: I would say it’s a mix of both. Like, for phase one, I don’t… I don’t expect that there would be lots of demos about this, because this is more ingestion, and I don’t think we need to show Danny how… how… how the databases work, but…
200 00:24:02.890 ⇒ 00:24:22.460 Brylle Girang: I’m saying it’s a mix of both, because for Phase 2, this should be a mix of demos that we can present to Danny, show to him how it works, that it works, some examples, and then at the same time, we need to… we need to have, like, milestones that are easily digestible, even for non-technical people.
201 00:24:24.290 ⇒ 00:24:36.939 Brylle Girang: Does that answer your question? So, for Phase 1, if you don’t have milestones that can be demoable, then that should be fine, but at least we should have milestones that we can easily say, hey, Slack ingestion has been completed.
202 00:24:37.610 ⇒ 00:24:41.330 Brylle Girang: So that’s going to be the outcome for this project.
203 00:24:43.050 ⇒ 00:24:43.690 Pranav: Okay.
204 00:24:44.340 ⇒ 00:24:46.870 Pranav: Yeah, that sounds good.
205 00:24:48.030 ⇒ 00:25:02.570 Pranav: Yeah, I’ll just create something, I’ll just try to be quicker, so then, like, if there is… I’m not gonna spend a ton of time just, like, going into the exact detail, just so I can get something to you, and you can let me know if I’m on the right track. I think that’s probably the best way to do it.
206 00:25:03.080 ⇒ 00:25:04.520 Pranav: To go about this, yeah.
207 00:25:04.920 ⇒ 00:25:06.630 Brylle Girang: Alright, perfect. And then,
208 00:25:06.780 ⇒ 00:25:15.240 Brylle Girang: if… so, we’re not telling you to, like, stop using AI tools for this, definitely use AI tools, but this would be…
209 00:25:17.320 ⇒ 00:25:19.179 Brylle Girang: Just a moment, I had allergies.
210 00:25:20.440 ⇒ 00:25:23.909 Brylle Girang: So if you, if you could check out this cursor skill.
211 00:25:26.470 ⇒ 00:25:30.930 Brylle Girang: I sent over, that’s slash humanizer. Do you know that one?
212 00:25:32.390 ⇒ 00:25:33.910 Pranav: No, I haven’t used that.
213 00:25:34.250 ⇒ 00:25:37.760 Brylle Girang: Yeah, so this cursor skill helps us, like, filter out
214 00:25:39.720 ⇒ 00:25:46.940 Brylle Girang: filter out the AI slop that AI sometimes does. So, for example, m dashes,
215 00:25:47.120 ⇒ 00:26:00.420 Brylle Girang: If not, then etc. This is not just… it’s… it’s blah blah blah blah. This humanizer skill can help you out with, like, doing the first pass and making sure that there’s no AI slot in the document. So try to use this one.
216 00:26:00.420 ⇒ 00:26:00.960 Pranav: Cool.
217 00:26:01.410 ⇒ 00:26:02.860 Pranav: Yeah, sounds good.
218 00:26:04.180 ⇒ 00:26:04.890 Brylle Girang: Alright.
219 00:26:05.310 ⇒ 00:26:12.310 Brylle Girang: Thank you, let me know if you need help. Yeah, I can review the first pass, and then let’s just talk together if there’s anything unclear.
220 00:26:13.370 ⇒ 00:26:15.050 Pranav: Yeah, sounds good. Thanks, B.
221 00:26:15.400 ⇒ 00:26:16.449 Brylle Girang: Thank you, bye-bye.