Meeting Title: CSO <> SL Standups Date: 2026-03-13 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Awaish Kumar, Samuel Roberts, Zoran Selinger, Uttam Kumaran, Demilade Agboola, Pranav Narahari
Samuel Roberts: Hello? Brylle Girang: Hello? Samuel Roberts: Where are you guys today? Brylle Girang: Doing good. Samuel Roberts: Goodness. Uttam Kumaran: Hello. Samuel Roberts: Morning. Brylle Girang: Hello! Uttam Kumaran: That was yesterday, everyone. Sam. Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: yesterday. Yeah. Samuel Roberts: Good. Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. Samuel Roberts: made some progress with the open work stuff, understanding that project a bit more now, it’s got a bunch of different pieces, so… I think I’m… Yeah, give me the… Uttam Kumaran: Give me the TLDR on your perspective. I’m familiar with the project, so… Samuel Roberts: Yeah, getting it on railway was not… complicated, there were a few little hoops to jump through. I think they were deploying it… it looked like they were deploying it to Vercel and Render? And so I just had to, like, tweak things for Railway a little bit in Docker, and then that all… I just… everything kind of went. I had to, you know, clean up a few URLs here or there. But, yeah, the next… I mean, the big part is now jumping in and figuring, like, do users, and separating sessions and things. So, The deployment was kind of the first hurdle to make sure that, like, okay, this works, and now I can do a little more local dev on kind of splitting those things. Uttam Kumaran: So I think everything’s just one… Samuel Roberts: one big… User kind of thing now, not separated by anything. Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Samuel Roberts: So, gotta dig into that a little bit today, and that’ll be… the next, like, the Google auth to block it, and then once you’re in, separating by users, so there’ll probably need to be some kind of backend and stuff, but I’ll sort that all out today, hopefully. Uttam Kumaran: Book. Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, reskinning it and everything shouldn’t be too bad. What did you… do you get stuff… you were working on some open code stuff running? I’m curious about that. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I got, like… I was working on, like, kind of, like, 4 things. I finished the Slack. Changes, so that’s all… Samuel Roberts: Oh, I saw that worked. Sweet. Uttam Kumaran: The open code piece is, like, probably 60-70% there, still dealing with, like, some deployment. Stuff, but I’ll probably figure that out today. I got the… I got the marketing site ported as, like, a first version on Astro. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I saw that, and I think I opened it, but I didn’t get to it yet. Uttam Kumaran: But, like, it’s working, so it’ll be. Samuel Roberts: Pretty easy for us, but… Uttam Kumaran: Get the design and everything aligned. Samuel Roberts: Sweet. Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I think that’s… that’s… I think getting the Slack thing working was great, so… Yeah, it’s good. I think today we should get some more stuff out, so… Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, what about, everyone else, anything, want to discuss? Pranav Narahari: One thing for ABC is just, like, I’m working on roadmapping, and so… I know I already put most in the channel, but, like… How… I just… The contract just reads in a way where it’s a little bit ambiguous, because, like, the effective rate that we put in there doesn’t really make sense. Uttam Kumaran: So one is, like, I think… is that contract… can you just confirm that that’s the latest one? Like, is that the one… if you look at when the expiration date is, you should see we signed another one, like, start of this year, I think. Or, like, in the last 3 months, 4 months. But basically, and again, I’m just surprised that, like, I don’t know if you tried Cursor or tried… AI to answer it, but we basically… Bill for the amount of sessions in the previous month. Okay, so if we go above that session mark, yeah, it’s truly, like, usage-based tiers. Pranav Narahari: Yeah, so my… yeah, so, yeah, Brian and I kind of went, like, went through this whole thing, trying to, like, get the information from Cursor. I think, like, Rico gave him the contract. But my question is, like, I understand it’s, like, tiered, but… Is it truly, like… is it… Uttam Kumaran: You can go back, you can go back to the previous tier if we don’t hit it. Pranav Narahari: Right, but is it truly just, like, the four tiers? So, like, if we don’t hit the, you know, 2,000 session threshold, then we’re back to 2,000 per month? Or, sorry, 6,500 per month? Uttam Kumaran: S. Pranav Narahari: Okay. I just wanted to confirm that, because it does… it reads a little bit differently, but if we know that for sure, then we’re good. Uttam Kumaran: That’s… yeah, that’s a good point. If there… if there are… if it is confusing, then yeah, maybe we should… consider making some internal docs. But yes, like, we’re at the tier for which Like, it’s not, like, unlocked, and then we’re billing at that rate forever, it’s just what happened that month. Pranav Narahari: Right, yeah. I would just… yeah, so there’s, like, a different, like, there’s, like, an effective rate tied into each tier as well, so I wasn’t sure if, like, there’s some calculation happening, or if it’s truly just, like, look at the sessions. Then it’s easy to just map that to a tier, and then boom, you get paid that flat. Uttam Kumaran: That’s why I’m surprised, because I feel like our latest contract was pretty clear about just, like. we hit this number, it’s this amount, but okay, maybe we can check on Slack. I can look at it. Pranav Narahari: Yeah, sounds good. Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Awaish Kumar: What else, guys? Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Awaish Kumar: I’m here today. And I’m just planning to create a document on the CS modeling that I finalized, but we don’t have any progress on identity strategy part. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I saw a Sweeney’s thing, I haven’t looked at it, Yeah, I mean, you know, like, if someone… something takes an hour, there’s, like, no way. So I’m like… But what I’m trying to do is, like, if someone says, hey, this thing is not working, instead of… fixing it, I’m like… tell me what’s not working, and tell me what steps you tried, and then I’ll give you some more steps to try. Right? So that’s kind of, like, what I’m… Thinking about in that situation. Because one thing, like, for us, you know, we can always go in and fix whatever someone on the team does. But I’m trying to get people to learn, different skill set, like, hey, this dbt model’s running for an hour. Okay, like, you have a cross join, of course. Of course, it’s gonna take an hour. You don’t need cross joins, like, let’s think about another solution. Things like that, you know? Awaish Kumar: Yep, just… yeah, I was just giving an update, I can sync with him on… Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Awaish Kumar: For the follow-up, but yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Demi, Zoran, how’s it going? Demilade Agboola: So for my end, in terms of Magic Spoon, I’m about to send, like, an end-of-week update, so we’ve been able to, basically… send a PR, like, do the prefix stuff, so we sent a PR for that, send a PR for the spin space data. As well as… I just want the run to complete, but I think I’ve cleared up all the dbt errors in production as well. So basically, yeah, I’ll just give them that update, and we’ll see what they say about, like, from feedback on, you know, what they want, and I can always just talk to Mary about, like, focus for next week as well. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s also worth, like, using… using numbers when your update. So you can say cleared up, like, X amount of errors, or reduced the runtime by, like, XYZ. I think that’d be great. Yeah, that’s awesome. Was it pretty bad? Demilade Agboola: So it’s… it’s one of those things I would have to, like, long-term, you know, if we had full-time with them, I would probably have sat down to, like, do more, but effectively, their DBT seats don’t run. So you have. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, man. Demilade Agboola: import… The CSVs directly into their database. So which is what I ended up doing yesterday. And so that fixed, like, the… like, some of the dependencies that dbt was looking for. So once I loaded those CSVs in, they started running. I think there was another syntax error, and I fixed that. And Ashwini has put in some new, like, some of the data, so I just pointed to the right tables, and now everything is running appropriately. Uttam Kumaran: Well, one ask I have today, if you have, like, 30 minutes, can you, can you create some documents and cursor on, like, some of the steps you took for dbt, like, cleanup? I think. There… I don’t know, I think it may be under our, like, audit service, or one of them, but I think it’s… it would be helpful for you to be like, okay, here’s the things I looked at, here’s the things I did, and then just toss a document in there. That way, the next time someone is like, I want to clean… help clean up DBT, They can keep building off of that, you know? Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sounds good. I will also add that in the, like. Uttam Kumaran: And it’ll be your first PR. Demilade Agboola: Oh, okay, fair. Would it be? I think I have it here already. But yeah, I definitely can add it. Uttam Kumaran: Then it’ll be your sec- then it’ll be your second. Okay, awesome. Yeah, that’d be helpful. I think that’s a good reminder, also, like, for everybody, I think, as you’re doing work, and we’ll try to make this a little bit easier, too, where it’s, like. you know, I think Bile, we’re thinking about, like, hey, take the work I just did and, like, create skills or create docs, but… yeah, I think it’s helpful because the next person that comes along and wants to do this, they’re gonna be able to work from your standards. So, yeah. Cool, that’s great. And then for default, I saw that the, the, like, kind of updated dashboard went out. I think next week, probably, the focus is gonna be on the next dashboard. I think this week, in particular, one thing I tried to do was sort of challenge Mustafa to… Do some of the investigation work before coming with, like, hey, this is the problem, you know? And I think, as you saw, like, the platform is built in a way where you can… You can do that. like, Mustafa can run that analysis discrepancy now without needing to have, like, tons of… Understanding exactly how it works. And so that’s one thing I just wanted to stress, is like, if people are coming to you with problems, always ask them. to give it a go themselves, and, like, what did they try to mitigate, right? I think that’s just something helpful that you’re gonna find is gonna save you, like, a bunch of time as a leader, because what is our options otherwise? Our option is for us to fix it. Or option is to, like. escalate to the client. There’s a third option, which is, like, try a little bit harder. Like, try… just try… what else did you try? And because we… one thing, like, I think there’s a gap between us doing it and them doing it, which is, like, we have all these different tricks we can try. And so instead, it’s like, hey, did you try these various things, and maybe go ahead and do that, versus I’ll take it, you know? I think I’m, like. I’m… I sometimes do both, but I think that’s just a helpful reminder. Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I think, yeah, seeing the… what he did was pretty cool. And also, like, the Mother Duck MCP helped quite a bit, because he, just used that to find the disparity. So we literally got off a… hopped off a call right before this call. So even the, like, pointing to the previous day of the previous month, I just kind of gave him pointers on how to go about that. So without needing to, Get their view that they’re using for that. Just basically pointing the fact that, like. The data there builds every day. And the reason why it’s gonna be tricky using what he’s done is because it’s a monthly aggregation, so just find the day, the value for the day last month, and then just use that instead. And so he’s working on that, so the idea is he’ll get that out today as well, and so we can be done with that. Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Awaish Kumar: Okay, one more thing on Element. The Amazon Sync is kind of, haven’t synced any orders yet, so it’s been too… Okay. It started on 11th March. Uttam Kumaran: So did you see the message, though, like, Shivani and Gala were messaging? Let’s… maybe you can… there’s a message thread between them that Gob said he would check in today. So… Awaish Kumar: Okay. Uttam Kumaran: Probably. You can use that thread, or you can DM him in the other thread. First. Don’t wanna… Throw him under the bus. But, yeah. Zorong God. Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so for Amble, we are up and running, just collect… collecting some preliminary data there. Oh… Yeah, I have the playbook as much as I can at the moment. Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so that’s… that’s done. I’m gonna review everything. Obviously, so next week, we have a… we have a meeting, about the next stage, so we… Yeah. Yeah, we have the agreement on the… so basically Phase 0 is done, now we are going to phase, phase one, which is gonna include, reverse ETL setups and stuff like that. And then we’ll see what we can get, in the future. I think, Amber, looked at the data, so we’ll be able to pitch something, like the expansion. As well. So that’s… that’s working well for… for Eden. Like, a natural progression of when you… once you set up a lot of marketing tech, then, yeah, I guess there’s a lot of dashboarding, a lot of reports that they are requesting, and… So they… we are currently discussing, if we have redundancy in those, like, if we have… too many tools, but I think, I kind of, shine… shone some light on… On why we need different tools that are in place. It’s just, I think, we can transfer a lot of the reporting to, to Omni. That we… that we maybe have in NordBeam, and maybe have in Mixpanel, that don’t necessarily need to be within those two, two platforms, but that’s a conversation we need to have. The thing that, right now, worries me a little bit is our Gantt. is a little bit light for the next few weeks, and I really need to sit down with Greg once he’s back, and we need to… we are closing to the… very close to the end of Q1. I don’t know what conversation’s been, completed with ELT, and what are, kind of. targets for Q2. So, right now, we are very light on the end of that Gantt. It’s just a few dashboards by the end of the month, and I know Robert has some ideas on on, kind of, the analysis we, he’d like to do by the end of the month, especially about these new channels going live. So, we’ll have, we’ll have, things to do. However, we are, like, two, two, three weeks, before, Q2, and I don’t see… Yeah. Yeah, I don’t see, clear, clear plans yet. I don’t know if… if… I miss them, or we need to… we need to discuss them. I… Yeah, Greg kind of, has those days off. Uttam Kumaran: In a kind of awkward time, but we’ll get there next week. Okay. Zoran Selinger: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so one thing I think we can spend a day next… day or two next week is actually switching… To talking about, like, future. For as many clients as possible. I talked to Pranav about this, but, like, unfortunately, and this just happens in engineering. we’re perpetually, like, in the past or the present. Like, fixing stuff or reflecting. Yeah. Zoran Selinger: Yep. Uttam Kumaran: Part of our… brain has to always go towards, like, how do we continue to deliver the cutting edge, or move the needle, and ship net new? And I think it’s tough. But, like, we… I think that is, like, what great consultants, like, don’t do, typically, you know? So I’m wondering, like, how we can… How we can do that, you know? Zoran Selinger: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: So that’s something that, like, I want to make sure that one, like, you feel like the day-to-day is going okay. If whoever’s in a place where they feel like the day-to-day is okay. I want to start talking about the week, and the month, and the quarter. And, like, extend in that order. I feel like… If everyone generally feels like the day-to-day is getting better, Then it’s like… how… what can we do during… what can we do on Mondays during the week to basically make sure that, like, things are… We have, like, a clear set goal. And then also, can we start talking about the rest of the month? So that when you come to meetings in that month, you’re always, like, orienting. We said we were gonna do this, we said we were gonna do this. And then the quarter. That way, when you get to the point where you can have those forward conversations. You already have stuff locked in. And so maybe what we can do next week is we can take, like, One or two clients. and just do a discussion with this group, and talk… I’ll kind of show you how I’m thinking about, like, either how to… how to… how to… like, kind of what happens is two things. Either we have a lot of ideas. I think we have so many ideas for a lot of our clients and, like, how we can continue to improve things. There are some clients who want us to come to the table with that, like… They’re… they themselves don’t have the expertise or the creativity to think about the roadmap, and so if we were to go ask them, and I think, Pranav, this is what was sort of on ABC, if you were to ask them, what else do you want, they don’t even know, they don’t know what’s possible. So… They may say something, and then you may take it as, like, oh, they wanted this, when in fact, like, they just have no clue, like, what they’re… they just don’t know what’s possible. So, as usual, what I’m trying to suggest is. start with the prompt, what is next? And then you come with our recommendation as well. Oftentimes, our recommendation is much better than what the client themselves is thinking about doing next. It’s just something we’ve noticed. I feel like… I don’t like… I think it’s… I feel like it’s not a very humble thing to say, but… after doing this for 30, 40 times, oftentimes our recommendation is more robust, like, more measurable, and is usually the right thing. Sometimes clients have interesting ideas, usually it’s, like, the CEO, or someone that’s, like. Has a playing field like we have, you know? So, for those meetings, one, coming to the table with those recommendations, It’s, like, super helpful, but then you also need to have, like, a little bit of a, like, brainstorming session, where you can turn off the, like, daily, weekly. Brain, and you start to think about, like, okay, broadly, how do we help this client? The one thing you’ll find is that talking about the future is the most fun. like, most fun, most energizing for everybody in that room. So, it is a good way to, like, cut… keep the… To, like, cut the edge off, for a lot of, like, weeks, weekly meetings to talk about, like, what’s… what we’re planning for coming up. Yeah, I had one more point, but that’s… I think that’s, like, Oh, my last point was… Oftentimes, a client themselves kind of knows, like, what their future problems are. But you just have to keep asking, like, what is hurting, why is it hurting? And, like, keep doing that. And this is, like, what they teach in product management, is, like, how do you… how do you get to the root of the problem? And so, oftentimes, what you’ll find is that clients set… can set their roadmap, you know, for you. But not in terms of, like, the way it’s executed, but more in terms of, like, yeah, we’re losing, like, 10 million over here. And I wish, like, someone needs to look at that. holy shit, like, that’s a… that’s just, like… they just, like, handed that to us. But if you never ask, and we continue just to execute, like, and we never, like, take a beat to be, like. We notice these problems. Are there any problems that are burning? That we can just, like, start to think about and build a roadmap to. I promise you, nobody in their company asks that person, our stakeholder, that question. So, if we’re the people to be, like… it’s like, imagine you’re sitting at your desk, someone comes to you, hey, I understand you guys are crushing it, we’re also crushing it for you, I just wanted to see, like, what else is on your mind? Dude, like, yeah, like, I have a hundred things I gotta use some help with. And it makes the conversation… it builds this, like, sense of co-authoring this next scope. Right? The idea seems like it came from them, but basically, the idea came from them, we did the 90%, we both get the SOW out the door for the next thing. So… maybe B, if we can plan, like, on… Monday or Tuesday to take, like, one or two clients in, like, in this group, and walk through that. Like, how to approach that conversation, like, what a slide could look like, we can brainstorm, I think will be good. Yeah. Brylle Girang: Okay. Samuel Roberts: I’ll also add, like, from a product side, that’s exactly, like, how you want to think about things. Like, if you’re thinking about, like, building something for a user, maybe versus a client, the user thinks they want certain things, they have ideas, but really they’re trying to do something, and they might not be articulating that super well, and so I think, you know. Finding out the problems they think they have, and then getting to the root of those, and then figuring out the solution is… is the right way to go about it. Uttam Kumaran: gap. Samuel Roberts: Definitely, definitely right there. Cool. Brylle Girang: Yeah, I wanted to talk about, like, the instantulinear migration that we’re doing. I’m going to take this opportunity to, like, brainstorm with you. So, as of now, like, everything that we need to pull off this migration Oh. Samuel Roberts: All of this migration is in the vault, or in cursor. Brylle Girang: So, the thing that I want to happen is that we can just export the Instagan charts, tell cursor, import this to linear, and then everything will be settled for you, that’s already there. Now, the main thing that’s blocking me is just finalizing, like, the format in linear that we want to follow. I have here two test teams where I tried the two different formats that I’m thinking of. So for this format, I’m basically, like. Replicating how this left side looks like in linear, where the milestones are, like, the smaller chunks of work. here. So you can see here there’s BI tool set up, and that’s here, etc. My main… My main gripe here is that Doesn’t look that visually organized, and if we’re going to share this with the client, it’s not going to be good. The second format that I’m thinking of is something like this. where… the… how do I… do we call this the EPICS, like, the reporting platform, or is it, like, the BI evaluation? Uttam Kumaran: What do you mean? Brylle Girang: When we say epics. Uttam Kumaran: Which do we… Well, I guess in linear, it’s all projects. There’s no notion of… there’s no… like, epics isn’t the word in Notion. I guess, what is the question? Brylle Girang: Okay, gotcha. Well, that makes sense. So there’s no standard. It’s not a standard, okay, gotcha. Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, there’s just a different name, they just don’t call it, because Epic is, like, all Jira-coded terminology. So they… they use… They use, like, project, milestone, initiative, picket… Right, so… your… I guess your question is, like, is one of these in here… is one of this… how does the section map to… Something in here. Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, exactly. Uttam Kumaran: So… Yeah, a section doesn’t really have a mapping, because there’s no, like, ramification of creating, like, 10 sections versus 5 sections. Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: So, now that we have initiatives. I guess I’m curious, like, how we want to ladder things up Into, like, an objective for a client. Because I don’t think there was a… there was a reason why we did certain sections or didn’t. Brylle Girang: Yeah, that makes sense, okay. Well, what I… Samuel Roberts: Tagging you could use, if we need to add some… meta layer of organization that Linear doesn’t already have. If that makes sense. Brylle Girang: The labels. Well, the labels would be the best bet for that, and that is what I’m using here, like, the project labels, to, like, create sections. I’m thinking of initiatives, but currently I use initiatives as more of a… an indication of the services, like, there’s data service, AI service, strategy service. There is a sub-initiative feature, but I don’t think it’s worth the upgrade, just to get another layer of organization in our Gantt charts. So… Yeah, so, first thing, like, which can help you better organize our timelines? Is it this, or is it this? Uttam Kumaran: Wait, say it one… can you show it one more time? I feel like I’m at the… I’m at the eye doctor. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, left or right. Uttam Kumaran: The right… Brylle Girang: That’s the right one. So. Uttam Kumaran: What’s the other one? Brylle Girang: Boom. Uttam Kumaran: Can you put them side to side? Sorry. Brylle Girang: Okay, goth. Samuel Roberts: than another, yeah. Pranav Narahari: For the second one. Can you, like… is it possible to collapse each, like, those individual tickets that are… okay. Brylle Girang: Like this. Pranav Narahari: Oh, okay, but it doesn’t show the… It doesn’t show it on the time, like, the. Brylle Girang: Yeah. Pranav Narahari: The calendar, okay. Uttam Kumaran: So what is the… what is the difference? Like, I’m sorry, I see the visual difference. What is the actual, like, setup difference? Samuel Roberts: in the same time. Brylle Girang: Yeah, so, for the left side, this one uses milestones, like, for the client-specific deliverables, but on the right side, it uses projects for those deliverables instead. The problem here is that for projects, we can, like, add specific project updates, and we can also update their status individually, but for the left side, it’s just going to be general, and we would need to Like, update the milestones instead. Pranav Narahari: For the right side, there’s no good way of… I mean, without all of the clutter of every single ticket to show the client, right? Uttam Kumaran: I think, yeah, I… Yeah… Samuel Roberts: I mean, for client stuff, like, we could… I don’t want to necessarily suggest that we have to build our own Gantt tool completely, but we could build a visualization layer on top of linear for sharing. If that would be… more visually appealing than this. Like, to use this makes sense. I don’t think we wanna… Uttam Kumaran: I think we’ll get there, but, like, I don’t think we have the bandwidth to build and, like, figure that out right now. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m just thinking, like, a one-way thing that just, like, pulls linear and just displays it. Like, it wouldn’t be an editing thing, I’m just thinking something that is maybe… I’ve been… Uttam Kumaran: A little bit more… okay. Samuel Roberts: just for external more, like, using this internally and everything, I think, is fine, but if you don’t want to share this to clients, we could probably map those things to a Gantt and just spit out, like, a… Brylle Girang: Yeah. Samuel Roberts: HTML document or a PDF or something, you know. Uttam Kumaran: So, like, this… like, what… so this is a label? Brylle Girang: Yeah, these are labels, project labels, so this is a. Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay. Brylle Girang: And then… Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like… oh, I see what you mean. And then this is a pro- this is a project. Brylle Girang: Yep. Uttam Kumaran: But the initiative view doesn’t help with anything? Brylle Girang: It doesn’t. Yeah, so the initiatives… Samuel Roberts: linear… Brylle Girang: Without sub-initiatives, it just compresses everything in one place. Uttam Kumaran: And can you… can you go to the visualization settings for this one? Like, what else can you see in here? Samuel Roberts: Hmm. Brylle Girang: There’s not that much. So these are all the properties, and it just, you know, updates the left column. Samuel Roberts: Ugh. I wonder… has anyone built, like, a better Gantt tool that just goes on linear anyway? Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know, like, Zoran, Demi, like, what, yeah, what do you guys think? Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I like the left one more, like… Zoran Selinger: Hmm. Awaish Kumar: From projects, you can see milestones, and then… We can deep dive into tickets and all. Zoran Selinger: I mean, yeah, I mean, left one is more visually, appealing, but… It’s… I don’t know. Demilade Agboola: So that is… Zoran Selinger: I don’t know if it’s enough detail. It’s… it probably is. I don’t… I don’t think the clients… Samuel Roberts: Newton. Zoran Selinger: Need to see exactly every single detail of those tickets. I think this is… this might be fine. If you could… Demilade Agboola: click into those, does it show you more? Is there a way to, like, jump right into those? Samuel Roberts: So then it shows the milestones, but… Demilade Agboola: But I was just short. Samuel Roberts: Like, if you… Demilade Agboola: Tickets. Samuel Roberts: There it is, that’s what I was looking for, sea issues, okay, cool. Yeah. So you can jump into each one. Okay. Pranav Narahari: Or the left side, though… Demilade Agboola: So. Pranav Narahari: I might be… Demilade Agboola: Like, my question is, like, how do we know if things are over? So you know how, like, with Instagant, it would go red if it wasn’t completed by the date? Does, like, Linear do something similar? Brylle Girang: Yeah, so for linear, we have this, like, status update, so if it’s completed, it’s, like, in the checked blue mark, but it doesn’t really change the color of the actual The actual chip. Demilade Agboola: Yeah, yeah, okay. Zoran Selinger: I’m a little bit confused, maybe I probably missed something. Why are we not sharing just a linear? Sorry, Instagant, export. Uttam Kumaran: Well, the… the instant is just hard to maintain. Zoran Selinger: Hasnote. Uttam Kumaran: like, it’s all manual, and they also have no API or anything. Brylle Girang: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: So, we’re trying to find a way… I mean, one is, like, ultimately, yeah, I would rather not pay for Instagant, but I think beyond that, like. it’s, like, I would rather it all be closer together, but at minimum, we need to be able to use AI to, like, set it up. And Instagane is, like, just one of the tools right now that doesn’t allow for that. I have not seen any other sophisticated Gantt tool… Like, that allows for… the programmatic editing. I feel like this linear view is… Better… But maybe we leave Instagant… like, I guess more of what I’m saying is maybe Instagant becomes purely just for, like, sales conversations, because it looks really nice. And… We use this, because ultimately, like, your tickets are gonna ladder into this. Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: You know? Pranav Narahari: For Instagant, can you upload a CSV and it just populates. Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we can do that. Maybe we add a skill that allows us to, like, create a CSV from linear that we can just import to Instagant, if we need to. Zoran Selinger: It just seems like an overkill. Yeah. If it’s just for visualization, I don’t know, I think maybe what, what, what Sam… Asked these… Yeah, maybe you go with this… Uttam Kumaran: And then we make, like, a lighter viz layer on top. That’s, like, a little bit more friendly looking. But, like, functionally, this is much better, right? Because it forces you to… it allows you to, like, keep linear up-to-date in order to produce this, which helps with everything else. Yeah. You know? like, the Gantt never… the Gantt is pretty polished, but it, like, never ties into this stuff. Samuel Roberts: That’s the exact. Uttam Kumaran: That’s the gap right now. Zoran Selinger: B, so these, gray bars, horizontal bars, can we change the color of them on the left, on the left side? Brylle Girang: Nope, nope, not possible. Zoran Selinger: Not even manually. Uttam Kumaran: Wait, which… oh, this one? I mean, there’s There’s light mode in. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, linear. Uttam Kumaran: You can’t, like, set it to something besides… Brylle Girang: Yeah, if it’s going to be red, if it’s overdue or green, if it’s, you know. Zoran Selinger: Yeah. Even just… Samuel Roberts: Oh, those are just the set statuses, is that what we’re seeing here on the milestones? Brylle Girang: In Venice, yeah. Samuel Roberts: And this, like, those are two different statuses? Brylle Girang: Oh, these are milestones, and . Samuel Roberts: Like, what is that color coming from? Is it… because it looks like everything before is red and everything after is not, so I wasn’t sure if that was autumn, or… Brylle Girang: Yeah, this is auto, so if there’s a. Samuel Roberts: Okay. Brylle Girang: when there’s an issue that is completed, it goes red. Samuel Roberts: Okay. So there’s some… Brylle Girang: stuff there. Samuel Roberts: Okay. Yeah, it might be worth… so this is test and test 2, it might just be worth… Folks on this call just clicking around these and seeing what feels better today. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Samuel Roberts: Cause, like, yeah, visually… Uttam Kumaran: Send both of these bee today, and then let’s… let’s just try to make a decision, guys, because I… I am… Personally, like, I’m kind of, like, done with Instagane. I can’t maintain it for, like, the amount of time I have. So… and I need to have… be able to use cursor and stuff to, like, help me quickly and make edits. Like, so, I feel like let’s just… I’m leaning towards that. Like, I don’t… we don’t necessarily need to remove Instagant. But, like, still, the goal is, like, at any moment. there is a Gantt that is reflective of, like, our work. It doesn’t have to be updated every single week. But I still think that, like, we’re far from that, so I’m just trying to keep attacking the thing that… all of us, I know, are struggling with. Like, I don’t have time to keep that together, but it’ll be easy for us to build a little thing that says, like, update the projects, and that’ll automatically reflect in the Gantt. I think… We can then, if we… if we first decide on that. Then at least that’s one decision, and then… we can work on, like… can we create a nice, like, little viz layer on top of that? Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Just for display, and then we can evolve it from there, you know? Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think just picking which way we want to organize it. Between those two, whether it’s tagged. labels, or projects, or whatever. So I would say click around there and see what feels better between those two projects. Or the two. clients, I guess, the Test and Test 2. Just ergonomically. Okay. Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Okay. I think that’s all I had, so yeah, Pranav, I think we’ll keep talking about the ABC… we can talk about the ABC thing. I think… Yeah, one thing that could be a nice goal, guys, this week is to send an end-of-week Recap. I don’t know, B, do we have, like, an end of week? We have something for end of week. Brylle Girang: Well, we can use the weekly kickoff, and then just… specify that this is for the end of week. Should work the same. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, or maybe you can ship a little end-of-week thing. I think it’s nice. To get a message of, like, here’s all the things we did. It can be more of, like, a show-off kind of thing, which is, like, here’s all the things we did, lists, like. Here’s the things we did, here’s what we’re looking forward to next week, here’s some things we still need from you, simple. And again, like. I’m telling you, what you’ll find is the more of these types of messages, like the Monday message, the Thursday thing, the Friday, again, we’re filling the noise. So it looks like we’re doing… it, like, really, like, shows off all the things that we’re doing. And it’s gonna protect you from, like, oh, there’s 2 days of silence, right? So that’s what I really want to just, like, try to do. So yeah, Bea, if you… if you can, like, modify… Brylle Girang: the week start to just have, like, a little simple weekend, I can review it, and, like, everyone can use it today. Demilade Agboola: Yeah, that’ll be very helpful. And also, Is it possible to connect, like, Slack to… To that, so that you can have… because sometimes some things are not in meetings, or necessarily, Yeah, so things are not in meetings, basically. It’s like a Slack message, like, oh, I just got, like, Ashwini can text me and say, hey, this has been done, this has been done. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Demilade Agboola: So how. Uttam Kumaran: So… Demilade Agboola: Integrate that. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think, I think two things. One, like, Slack just released, like, an MCP, So, if you… if you guys use this, I can send in the channel and connect it. This should allow you to, look through all your messages. The trouble is, like, it may not… it may not know to go to Ashwini’s DM with you. So again, the best thing you could do is, if Ashwini sends you that DM, you either say. Yo, put us in a ticket, bro. Or you say… or you used at linear, put this in the appropriate ticket, because the automation is gonna primarily look at linear. It’s gonna look at linear, and it’s gonna look at our meetings as the two highest fidelity sources. like… we… I don’t know, like, I think, yeah, at some point, I think it’ll be able to, like, look at all the slacks, but you could also… with this, you can tell it also looked through the two client channels, or the three client channels. But of course, like, put your sauce on it right at the end, you know? That’s the goal. Demilade Agboola: Alright. Pranav Narahari: Have you guys been able to get it to use the internal client channels? Like, through cursor? Uttam Kumaran: With this? Pranav Narahari: Yeah, exactly. Uttam Kumaran: FCP? Yeah. I don’t know what I did yesterday. I don’t think I tried it yesterday with the internal… with the external client channels. Pranav Narahari: No, I mean the internal ones. Uttam Kumaran: Oh, it should, because it uses your… Authentication. Samuel Roberts: you have access to, I think. Pranav Narahari: Maybe try and just send an example of it not working. Yeah. Yeah, I have that right here, actually. I mean, I might as well just share my screen. Probably be easiest. Yeah, so… Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so you need to go open your cursor settings, yeah, and then go to MCP, You… just try to… just delete it. And then reinstall it. Pranav Narahari: Okay, I’ll try that. Uttam Kumaran: Just try and try it now. It should work. Yeah, this is just what happens with these sometimes. they just stop working. I think they either push an update or something happens, or I don’t know. You can go to that link I sent and literally just click the button. Pranav Narahari: I said it. Uttam Kumaran: The Zoom chat, yeah. Pranav Narahari: Click the button. Uttam Kumaran: If you… there’s a area for cursor. I think. Pranav Narahari: Oh… Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, on the left, there’s a thing for it called Connect to Cursor. Pranav Narahari: Oh, okay. Yeah, so now it’s bringing me to the cloud. Uttam Kumaran: Wait, no, it shouldn’t. Pranav Narahari: Oh, it didn’t? Okay. Uttam Kumaran: Oh, can you share? I cannot… we can’t… I can’t see that one, yeah. Pranav Narahari: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Go to… Go to Connect to Cursor on the left. And then click the button. Pranav Narahari: Oh, okay. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Nice, and then click yeah, and then, it’ll ask to auth, yeah, hit connect. And you’ll just have to… I don’t know what the… Pranav Narahari: What is that? Uttam Kumaran: Brainforgeai.slack.com. Pranav Narahari: dot AI? Uttam Kumaran: Just AI. No dog. Okay, try now. Pranav Narahari: Okay, and now it has, like, 13 resources. Uttam Kumaran: Just click… Actually, what you can do is, if it’s… if you lost, you could just click up here again. Left-click right here. At the end of this thing? Pranav Narahari: Oh, yeah. Uttam Kumaran: up here. Pranav Narahari: Oh yeah, then just a… Uttam Kumaran: And then just, yeah, yeah, yeah. Pranav Narahari: I wish it just had the up arrow key, like, when I’m in. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. What the hell? Pranav Narahari: I might need to just reload. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Demilade Agboola: Do we have, like, a list of recommended MCPs and, like, just the. Uttam Kumaran: Yes, it’s all in there. It’s in the… Samuel Roberts: It’s in the platform. Demilade Agboola: Oh, okay. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so if you say, like. Actually, it should load them, but if you say, like, what MCPs are recommended, it’ll… it’ll be in there. Demilade Agboola: Oh, okay. With links to getting it, as well? Uttam Kumaran: Like, like, meaning, yeah, you’ll see, you’ll see what, you’ll see how it works. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, there’s a .cursor folder in the top level of the repo, and if you open that, it should just open into cursor, and then you should see everything here. Uttam Kumaran: In your MTP settings, so you may have to auth and everything, but… Samuel Roberts: They should load. Demilade Agboola: I can see the dot’s cursor… folder. But all I can say are commands. Samuel Roberts: There’s no MCPs in there? Are you up to date? Demilade Agboola: Yes, I just did a poll, like, an hour ago. Uttam Kumaran: Pranav, did you restart cursor? Pranav Narahari: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Restart… oh, we restarted the entire app? Pranav Narahari: Well… If you do reload Window, I thought it was the same thing. Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, res… like, close the whole thing. This is just something. Pranav Narahari: Oh, wait. Uttam Kumaran: Aggie. Pranav Narahari: It’s working. Oh. Samuel Roberts: Okay, cool. Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, Demi, there’s an MCP.json file in that cursor folder that should load into… If it’s not loading, we should figure that out, though. Uttam Kumaran: Well, I would just say, ask Cursor, say, look over there, there’s MCPs, install them, and it’ll do it. Samuel Roberts: That’s true. It’ll tell you how to do it. Demilade Agboola: Dark, huh? Okay, give me one second, let me try and share my screen, so… Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Demilade Agboola: Because when I’m seeing… what I’m seeing are just, like, the commands. Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, but, it’s… this file here should be loading. Oh, hold on, I don’t know if my pen’s working. Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, I don’t even. Samuel Roberts: No, no, don’t even look… Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Samuel Roberts: Once again, I… Uttam Kumaran: I don’t wanna do… I don’t wanna… I don’t… I think. Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Uttam Kumaran: don’t want people to have to give a shit about where it is. Just go to… Okay, yeah, go ahead. Like, I just said, go to… hit the plus on the top right. and just say, like, there are MCPs, In cursor. try and install them, like… I’m just… I want… this has to be easy for people with… without access to us. Right? So I just want to test that these things work. It’s… it’s painful. Yeah. Samuel Roberts: Yeah. I think the issue is that it’s the workspace, and this isn’t the top level, I think. That’s what… Otherwise, it should just load. What? Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s see. Demilade Agboola: Okay, cool. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Okay, better. Samuel Roberts: Sweet, okay. Uttam Kumaran: So, so yeah, so basically, you should be able to do that. The other thing is, on the left here, these are all of the ones. Worst case, if it doesn’t give you all of these, you can just say. What you can do is, if you actually right-click on here. Demilade Agboola: Because I know I’ve… What do I want to serve is… these are the ones. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Demilade Agboola: Done. Already? Okay. I’ve done… Uttam Kumaran: But I guess what I’m saying is right-click on this MCP file, you can say copy. Or add to chat. Add file to chat. Just say, like, install these. Demilade Agboola: Gotcha. Uttam Kumaran: Install the rest of these, yeah. So I see what it’s doing, yeah. So basically, the other piece is, yeah, because… Because you have two competing dot cursor files. like… Ideally, what you want to do is just open this I mean, it just doesn’t matter, just see what it says. Samuel Roberts: Yeah. However you want to do it, but if you open the top level, if it’s… Yeah. And see how you have two dot cursors? Demilade Agboola: Yeah, yeah, I just didn’t see that. Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so there’s gonna be some conflict, but… Okay, at least it worked, like… Samuel Roberts: Most of the way, yeah. Demilade Agboola: Alright, what the hell? Is it not okay. Uttam Kumaran: Just say, install this. No, no, it’s in, it’s in. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, you’re good, it’s… yeah. Uttam Kumaran: Or what you can… Oh, it’s on… Samuel Roberts: Well, it made the MCP in the… It made the MCP in the dot… it already did, yeah, so it made that one. That’s what it did. Uttam Kumaran: Oh, so you should already have all these. So go to your settings. Samuel Roberts: Yeah, now, now… Demilade Agboola: Sorry, how’s do that. Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay. Demilade Agboola: Let’s see… I lost the cursor… Interesting. That’s fault. use MCP’s… Okay, so let’s see… The settings are… Alright, so they’re right here. Uttam Kumaran: Yay. Cool. Demilade Agboola: Excellent. Uttam Kumaran: Okay, guys, I need to jump. Demilade Agboola: Sounds good. Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Nice. Let me know if you need help with anything today. Samuel Roberts: We’ll be right back. Brylle Girang: Bye-bye. Samuel Roberts: Yo.