Meeting Title: CSO <> SL Standups Date: 2026-03-12 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Samuel Roberts, Awaish Kumar, Zoran Selinger, Uttam Kumaran, Pranav Narahari, Demilade Agboola
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1 00:08:14.380 ⇒ 00:08:15.080 Brylle Girang: Hello!
2 00:08:19.080 ⇒ 00:08:20.030 Samuel Roberts: How are you?
3 00:08:20.600 ⇒ 00:08:21.590 Samuel Roberts: Oh, here we.
4 00:08:22.340 ⇒ 00:08:23.080 Awaish Kumar: Hello.
5 00:08:24.070 ⇒ 00:08:24.570 Brylle Girang: Doing good.
6 00:08:24.570 ⇒ 00:08:25.190 Samuel Roberts: vote.
7 00:08:25.570 ⇒ 00:08:26.400 Samuel Roberts: Good.
8 00:08:28.930 ⇒ 00:08:33.020 Samuel Roberts: How weird the filter doesn’t realize what my… That’s funny.
9 00:08:34.700 ⇒ 00:08:35.409 Samuel Roberts: Whatever.
10 00:08:38.940 ⇒ 00:08:40.070 Samuel Roberts: Excuse me.
11 00:08:43.970 ⇒ 00:08:45.040 Samuel Roberts: Hey, guys.
12 00:08:45.800 ⇒ 00:08:46.520 Brylle Girang: Hello!
13 00:08:47.170 ⇒ 00:08:47.800 Samuel Roberts: Mmm.
14 00:09:02.220 ⇒ 00:09:04.439 Brylle Girang: Just waiting for Damien Parnav.
15 00:09:05.840 ⇒ 00:09:06.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Cool.
16 00:09:08.280 ⇒ 00:09:11.120 Uttam Kumaran: B, can we use the other notion?
17 00:09:13.690 ⇒ 00:09:19.459 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I was actually about to use that, but it’s not loading on my end, so I needed to.
18 00:09:19.970 ⇒ 00:09:21.560 Brylle Girang: Create a temporary page.
19 00:09:22.350 ⇒ 00:09:22.810 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
20 00:09:22.810 ⇒ 00:09:25.600 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I was wondering why there’s just one date in there, yeah. Alright, that makes sense.
21 00:09:32.220 ⇒ 00:09:34.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Let’s get started.
22 00:09:35.430 ⇒ 00:09:40.490 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess… Maybe I’ll…
23 00:09:41.730 ⇒ 00:09:47.400 Uttam Kumaran: We can talk about, Eden OS. I guess, Awash, I know you and Bea are sort of pushing
24 00:09:47.650 ⇒ 00:09:54.030 Uttam Kumaran: on… that piece, but any help you need from me, or should I ping Robert for escalation?
25 00:09:55.140 ⇒ 00:09:58.559 Awaish Kumar: So, yeah, like, I’ve already…
26 00:09:59.060 ⇒ 00:10:16.830 Awaish Kumar: been asking for the… the data to be there, and Diego and Surf and everybody knows the… he pointed me yesterday regarding some data, which only has 3 records, and I’m… I’m asking him to, like, if we can get a sample of, like, at least a few hundred, so he can process it.
27 00:10:18.490 ⇒ 00:10:24.199 Awaish Kumar: Like, it’s in the channel, if you want to bump it, like, bump the message, that would be nice.
28 00:10:25.950 ⇒ 00:10:26.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
29 00:10:27.490 ⇒ 00:10:31.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, and then… That’s when… can you ping me, the link?
30 00:10:31.300 ⇒ 00:10:31.890 Awaish Kumar: Yep.
31 00:10:33.000 ⇒ 00:10:33.869 Brylle Girang: Yeah, and then, I mean…
32 00:10:34.290 ⇒ 00:10:44.680 Brylle Girang: We need to revisit our timelines here, our Gantt chart, because we’re severely behind. We might need to adjust and reprioritize Eden OAS for the coming weeks.
33 00:10:47.680 ⇒ 00:10:49.269 Brylle Girang: Let’s work on that offline.
34 00:10:50.990 ⇒ 00:10:51.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
35 00:10:53.600 ⇒ 00:11:01.310 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, tell me about, like, the Magic Spoon delay, like, what happened, and like, what… how can I help?
36 00:11:03.370 ⇒ 00:11:08.939 Awaish Kumar: Are the magic spoons? It’s like, yeah, I already…
37 00:11:09.230 ⇒ 00:11:16.290 Awaish Kumar: I’ve talked with Aishwini, he has… he has created a PR, and it’s ready to merge, but what happened was, like,
38 00:11:16.440 ⇒ 00:11:25.230 Awaish Kumar: Obviously, there was a scope change. He was getting input from… directly from client to… Make some changes.
39 00:11:25.390 ⇒ 00:11:32.240 Awaish Kumar: And he was just trying to do that instead of pushing and closing the ticket and then creating a new one.
40 00:11:32.750 ⇒ 00:11:37.240 Awaish Kumar: I was just trying to do inside of a single ticket, and that’s…
41 00:11:37.340 ⇒ 00:11:41.800 Awaish Kumar: Why we didn’t have clarity on what’s going on, like…
42 00:11:41.950 ⇒ 00:11:44.329 Awaish Kumar: There’s just one ticket sitting there.
43 00:11:46.430 ⇒ 00:11:47.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
44 00:11:48.560 ⇒ 00:11:50.989 Uttam Kumaran: So do you feel good? Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
45 00:11:52.040 ⇒ 00:11:57.080 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I, like, I have asked yesterday him to, like, push whatever is, like.
46 00:11:57.650 ⇒ 00:12:06.020 Awaish Kumar: I asked him to scope the ticket, and then whenever it’s done, just close it out, and push whatever he has right now.
47 00:12:06.180 ⇒ 00:12:07.629 Awaish Kumar: To close that.
48 00:12:08.670 ⇒ 00:12:16.870 Awaish Kumar: And, if there is any other… any other requests, we can then discuss and… Including the sprint.
49 00:12:17.370 ⇒ 00:12:17.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
50 00:12:18.160 ⇒ 00:12:23.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think, like, one learning here, guys, is, like, if anything is taking more than, like, a half a day.
51 00:12:24.020 ⇒ 00:12:37.550 Uttam Kumaran: like, I would flag for, like, what’s going on. I don’t… I don’t know… I mean, I think maybe this crew is probably… could be working on things that are longer, but is there someone on your team that’s working on something that’s, like.
52 00:12:37.890 ⇒ 00:12:42.019 Uttam Kumaran: 5-6 hours, or you don’t hear back, like, flag for an update.
53 00:12:42.410 ⇒ 00:12:49.910 Uttam Kumaran: And I think this is where I want to give you guys more latitude to, like, look, like, another option is, like, hey, send end-of-day updates.
54 00:12:50.140 ⇒ 00:12:52.089 Uttam Kumaran: I think one of the things that are…
55 00:12:52.640 ⇒ 00:13:01.160 Uttam Kumaran: I think a lot of you guys might remember when I was like, okay, let’s just start the day by, like, doing stand-up, and then send, like, an end-of-day update when you log off.
56 00:13:01.380 ⇒ 00:13:05.159 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s actually, like, great, and so easy.
57 00:13:05.460 ⇒ 00:13:18.399 Uttam Kumaran: For you guys to just institute on your teams, if you, if you’d like. Because, especially because some people are in different regions. But again, it gets people in the habit of, like, closing out their work.
58 00:13:18.860 ⇒ 00:13:22.399 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t… I don’t… I would like…
59 00:13:22.770 ⇒ 00:13:27.390 Uttam Kumaran: you guys to kind of give it a shot within your teams before I institute, like.
60 00:13:27.670 ⇒ 00:13:32.899 Uttam Kumaran: For example, we’ve had the thought of, like, okay, let’s look at linear tickets that have, like.
61 00:13:33.660 ⇒ 00:13:37.319 Uttam Kumaran: Been sitting for, like, more than 3 days, or, like…
62 00:13:37.530 ⇒ 00:13:41.820 Uttam Kumaran: And then, like, I can escalate and message people too, but… I think it’s…
63 00:13:43.160 ⇒ 00:13:48.710 Uttam Kumaran: I kind of kick it back to… to you and your teams. But…
64 00:13:48.960 ⇒ 00:13:53.099 Uttam Kumaran: a daily, like, hey, here’s what I’m working on, and a, like, here’s what I finished.
65 00:13:53.350 ⇒ 00:13:58.999 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s actually, like, super great, and I think people sometimes just forget, so…
66 00:13:59.340 ⇒ 00:14:02.740 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, does anyone have any, like, thoughts on that? Is that, like, a current problem?
67 00:14:11.330 ⇒ 00:14:27.210 Samuel Roberts: The one thing I was going to add, was that the linear ticket, like, the size… you were talking a little bit about how long things can take and things sitting there, but we might just need to be breaking things down a little bit more for if they’re going on longer, especially if we want to see the tickets moving, because otherwise it’s just the…
68 00:14:27.210 ⇒ 00:14:44.720 Samuel Roberts: granularity, the resolution isn’t fine enough, maybe? I think the updates are a good idea, too, even if the work’s still in progress, maybe, but, that’s probably just something to keep in mind. And I think, you know, Awash already kind of caught that. He was just working in one ticket, or that Ashwini was working in one ticket, and that might be part of the problem.
69 00:14:48.170 ⇒ 00:14:48.850 Brylle Girang: It won’t…
70 00:14:48.850 ⇒ 00:14:49.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so…
71 00:14:49.460 ⇒ 00:14:52.299 Brylle Girang: We also have noticed is that we…
72 00:14:52.410 ⇒ 00:15:00.540 Brylle Girang: we lack the discipline when it comes to updating actual linear tickets. Most of the updates are not happening within linear, and that’s super hard to track.
73 00:15:00.590 ⇒ 00:15:18.550 Brylle Girang: Although we have the MCPs right now that can connect these things together, it’s going to be more efficient if the updates are actually logged into linear. Most of the tickets that we have right now, it’s just created, then it will be completed without actual documentation what happened. That will help out a lot.
74 00:15:21.600 ⇒ 00:15:22.499 Samuel Roberts: That’s good point.
75 00:15:22.630 ⇒ 00:15:23.530 Samuel Roberts: I agree.
76 00:15:31.840 ⇒ 00:15:35.290 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, great. Yeah, I think one thing that could be good is, like.
77 00:15:36.400 ⇒ 00:15:46.860 Uttam Kumaran: I think, B, one thing we could try to do is, like, maybe a skill that, like, looks for large tickets. I mean, also, you could just… and that way… I think one of the things, Sam, that we tried to work on before is basically, like, a…
78 00:15:46.970 ⇒ 00:15:52.990 Uttam Kumaran: A linear, like, grooming assistant that would basically look at tickets that are active and be like.
79 00:15:53.170 ⇒ 00:15:56.159 Uttam Kumaran: This doesn’t have info, or this is way too big.
80 00:15:56.290 ⇒ 00:15:59.999 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, this is, like, improperly scoped.
81 00:16:00.170 ⇒ 00:16:03.440 Uttam Kumaran: So I think, B, maybe I can show you what that is.
82 00:16:04.060 ⇒ 00:16:08.070 Uttam Kumaran: And then maybe we can… Continue development on it. Yeah.
83 00:16:08.520 ⇒ 00:16:13.380 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, in our case, it is not a, like, the big ticket, it is more of a scope change.
84 00:16:14.230 ⇒ 00:16:17.219 Awaish Kumar: Like, adding new things after it is done.
85 00:16:18.000 ⇒ 00:16:19.100 Awaish Kumar: And…
86 00:16:19.300 ⇒ 00:16:24.679 Uttam Kumaran: So in that case, do you think we would have, like, caught it because it was in flight for, like, more than 3 days?
87 00:16:27.420 ⇒ 00:16:27.870 Awaish Kumar: Yes.
88 00:16:27.870 ⇒ 00:16:31.269 Uttam Kumaran: You know what I mean? Like, what would the filter be? Okay, yeah.
89 00:16:33.980 ⇒ 00:16:35.119 Samuel Roberts: I think that makes sense.
90 00:16:35.800 ⇒ 00:16:36.350 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
91 00:16:37.270 ⇒ 00:16:37.910 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, the grooming…
92 00:16:37.910 ⇒ 00:16:44.199 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, like, I think… I think I want to just help, like, across the board on getting linear tickets, but I also think, like, for you guys.
93 00:16:44.400 ⇒ 00:16:52.409 Uttam Kumaran: it’s… that’s the atomic unit of work for you guys to, like, hold people accountable. Otherwise, if it’s in Slack, or it was in a meeting.
94 00:16:52.630 ⇒ 00:16:55.639 Uttam Kumaran: I’m telling you, it’s just gonna be very, very hard to be like.
95 00:16:55.750 ⇒ 00:16:58.440 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, did you do that thing? And they’re gonna be like, what thing?
96 00:16:58.770 ⇒ 00:17:03.279 Uttam Kumaran: And again, no one’s malicious, but, like, that’s just the way it’s gonna go, so…
97 00:17:03.380 ⇒ 00:17:16.670 Uttam Kumaran: I think, as much as possible, try to run the, like, linear ticket skills. We’re also gonna try to run some of these, like, automatically to flag maybe missing linear tickets.
98 00:17:17.190 ⇒ 00:17:24.919 Uttam Kumaran: Like, there was a meeting, a ticket didn’t get created, and, like, we’ll try to pass that back to you for a decision.
99 00:17:25.210 ⇒ 00:17:27.859 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s actually, like, super helpful.
100 00:17:29.170 ⇒ 00:17:34.330 Samuel Roberts: I haven’t been able to spend much time on it recently, but the linear ticket
101 00:17:34.920 ⇒ 00:17:45.560 Samuel Roberts: generator Slack message, I forget exactly what Gabe was calling it, but it’s sort of working. It’s sending me stuff, it has to be cleaned up a little bit, and we have to figure out how to send it to the right people, but…
102 00:17:45.560 ⇒ 00:17:48.549 Uttam Kumaran: Can you share that? Because I don’t have it on mine.
103 00:17:48.940 ⇒ 00:17:51.830 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, well, I think… I think… I think it got…
104 00:17:51.830 ⇒ 00:17:53.489 Uttam Kumaran: Just show me what it is.
105 00:17:53.490 ⇒ 00:18:10.779 Samuel Roberts: I’ll send you what it is. There’s a few things to clean up, because I’m seeing all of them come in, and I’m kind of doing some, like, spot checks. I’m like, okay, this one, we probably need to add some more information and stuff, and then I think the only other thing there is just knowing who to send it to, and I think we need to add probably just the meeting host and let them distribute if people need to.
106 00:18:10.920 ⇒ 00:18:19.579 Samuel Roberts: be the actual ones responsible, but I can think about that a little bit more. I’ll send you some screenshots, because it’s just in my Brainforge Assistant messages on Slack.
107 00:18:19.890 ⇒ 00:18:22.919 Samuel Roberts: I think it’s just because my ID was hard-coded.
108 00:18:23.220 ⇒ 00:18:27.290 Uttam Kumaran: Is there any way you can just share right now? Because I want everybody to get a sense, I could get, like, quick
109 00:18:27.710 ⇒ 00:18:28.380 Uttam Kumaran: Everybody?
110 00:18:28.380 ⇒ 00:18:31.730 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, totally, totally. Let me, let me get that up.
111 00:18:32.430 ⇒ 00:18:43.199 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, while we get that up, maybe we can continue. So, yeah. Yeah, I think, Awash, I also want to talk about CTA. I wonder what your thought is here. I’m having a hard time…
112 00:18:43.470 ⇒ 00:18:45.289 Uttam Kumaran: Getting my stuff done.
113 00:18:45.750 ⇒ 00:18:49.990 Uttam Kumaran: My goal is to just bring on… I mean…
114 00:18:50.460 ⇒ 00:18:54.040 Uttam Kumaran: We… yeah, I mean, we either need to bring on whoever the next…
115 00:18:54.520 ⇒ 00:18:58.880 Uttam Kumaran: Data higher is, or potentially, like.
116 00:18:59.310 ⇒ 00:19:02.850 Uttam Kumaran: get help from Demi, like, what do you think we should do here?
117 00:19:04.270 ⇒ 00:19:08.950 Awaish Kumar: Like, on… are you talking about Cortex thing, or overall?
118 00:19:08.950 ⇒ 00:19:12.889 Uttam Kumaran: Just broadly on CTA, like, even the other modeling pieces.
119 00:19:13.110 ⇒ 00:19:15.220 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, modeling pieces, like the…
120 00:19:15.570 ⇒ 00:19:22.909 Awaish Kumar: CS modeling star schema, that was the goal of this week, and it is done. I’m done with that, so…
121 00:19:23.180 ⇒ 00:19:26.949 Awaish Kumar: And then there is… and only the piece that is pending is identity stitching.
122 00:19:27.080 ⇒ 00:19:34.609 Awaish Kumar: That, already, bound to, to Ashwini, to, to work on that, and I can also…
123 00:19:34.730 ⇒ 00:19:43.239 Awaish Kumar: I’ll work on that with him today. I have some time, so I… we can close, like, at least get some progress on both the pieces today.
124 00:19:43.500 ⇒ 00:19:45.239 Uttam Kumaran: And close that out. Okay.
125 00:19:46.900 ⇒ 00:19:50.469 Awaish Kumar: Apart from that, there’s only one thing, that is Cortexing.
126 00:19:51.920 ⇒ 00:19:56.760 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so B, can you help me draft a, like, message?
127 00:19:57.620 ⇒ 00:19:59.269 Uttam Kumaran: to CTA today?
128 00:19:59.270 ⇒ 00:19:59.860 Brylle Girang: Okay.
129 00:20:01.640 ⇒ 00:20:03.860 Awaish Kumar: I have a PR, I can also…
130 00:20:04.620 ⇒ 00:20:07.109 Awaish Kumar: We can also send that if we want to.
131 00:20:07.110 ⇒ 00:20:12.509 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, I want to just send a, like, cause we didn’t send much yesterday, so I just want to send a, like, morning note today.
132 00:20:14.680 ⇒ 00:20:22.839 Brylle Girang: Okay, I might ask for help here, Oasis, if you could clean up the linear tickets, because you mentioned that the CAS report is already done, but…
133 00:20:22.940 ⇒ 00:20:24.549 Brylle Girang: The tickets are still…
134 00:20:25.060 ⇒ 00:20:44.480 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, CS report, there’s, like, there are two things. Audit report, there’s… there are four tickets which are blocked. I’m not sure what we should be doing, like, Ashwani already shared the conclusion that the data is not there, and since… and that’s the reason we can’t work on those. Either we put them back to backlog, or…
135 00:20:44.850 ⇒ 00:20:50.529 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but, like, I guess, did you guys call them? And, like, is that super confirmed? Like, are they aware of that?
136 00:20:51.050 ⇒ 00:20:54.989 Awaish Kumar: Yes, like, we… Okay. He has that message yesterday,
137 00:20:54.990 ⇒ 00:20:56.509 Uttam Kumaran: I see, I see, I see.
138 00:20:56.510 ⇒ 00:20:57.930 Awaish Kumar: Asking Kyle, yep.
139 00:20:58.690 ⇒ 00:21:01.770 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so, but, like, I think a good point here, and I don’t know…
140 00:21:02.200 ⇒ 00:21:05.519 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I just want to make sure that that gets back into the ticket.
141 00:21:06.050 ⇒ 00:21:10.900 Uttam Kumaran: So, I think it’s worth us figuring out how that would work.
142 00:21:11.270 ⇒ 00:21:14.530 Uttam Kumaran: Like, for example, Ashwini should have blocked that ticket.
143 00:21:14.740 ⇒ 00:21:15.839 Uttam Kumaran: At that point.
144 00:21:16.620 ⇒ 00:21:17.420 Uttam Kumaran: Right.
145 00:21:19.300 ⇒ 00:21:19.990 Awaish Kumar: Like…
146 00:21:19.990 ⇒ 00:21:20.740 Uttam Kumaran: Here’s a… here’s…
147 00:21:20.740 ⇒ 00:21:21.620 Awaish Kumar: That’s blood.
148 00:21:21.620 ⇒ 00:21:27.589 Uttam Kumaran: Well, here’s the example for everybody, like, hey, did we get a cleaner version of this data? We’re meeting at 1PM to get it.
149 00:21:28.780 ⇒ 00:21:33.539 Uttam Kumaran: Just pos… put this, like… literally, it takes 2 seconds to be like, cool.
150 00:21:34.830 ⇒ 00:21:36.719 Uttam Kumaran: This is it, it’s blocked.
151 00:21:37.720 ⇒ 00:21:38.230 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
152 00:21:38.950 ⇒ 00:21:39.710 Samuel Roberts: You can add the…
153 00:21:39.710 ⇒ 00:21:40.069 Uttam Kumaran: the slide.
154 00:21:40.070 ⇒ 00:21:41.840 Samuel Roberts: message to the linear ticket, too.
155 00:21:42.260 ⇒ 00:21:46.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and like, I just want us… I just want… I think what would be helpful…
156 00:21:47.050 ⇒ 00:21:59.510 Uttam Kumaran: And I know, like, I think overall, like, I didn’t… I… we did our best to kind of keep linear up today, but now that you guys are gonna be running your teams, I’m telling you, like, on a… on that, it’s gonna be so, so helpful.
157 00:21:59.700 ⇒ 00:22:04.950 Uttam Kumaran: To just, like, keep pressing the team to, like, have, like, really, really amazing linear hygiene.
158 00:22:05.370 ⇒ 00:22:10.330 Uttam Kumaran: For any of our automations to, like, do… do some damage, so…
159 00:22:12.180 ⇒ 00:22:14.380 Uttam Kumaran: I think this is a good example of, like.
160 00:22:14.670 ⇒ 00:22:16.749 Uttam Kumaran: I guess in this situation, Awash.
161 00:22:17.070 ⇒ 00:22:21.290 Uttam Kumaran: like, we could do two things. One, like, B, you can basically…
162 00:22:21.820 ⇒ 00:22:28.670 Uttam Kumaran: like, tag Ashwini and be like, hey, you need to mark this as blocked. So I kind of want to think about, like, layers of escalation.
163 00:22:28.880 ⇒ 00:22:34.909 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, I think it’s, like, either the CSO or the SL, like, for you guys to just put some pressure on people.
164 00:22:35.300 ⇒ 00:22:37.689 Uttam Kumaran: Naturally, still one or two people may not.
165 00:22:38.200 ⇒ 00:22:41.180 Uttam Kumaran: update, and then I’ll talk to them at that point. But, like…
166 00:22:41.740 ⇒ 00:22:44.280 Uttam Kumaran: I think give it a shot to try to get everything in linear.
167 00:22:45.030 ⇒ 00:22:59.200 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, actually, those tickets are marked as blocked, and we don’t know what to, like, we should keep them in… because these are sub-issues. If they are blocked, that means the main ticket is still in progress.
168 00:22:59.330 ⇒ 00:23:02.739 Uttam Kumaran: But I guess that’s the other thing, I think… I thought we just decided no sub-issues.
169 00:23:03.520 ⇒ 00:23:08.719 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, but now we are… we have… We have them in linear.
170 00:23:09.120 ⇒ 00:23:09.810 Brylle Girang: That’s all…
171 00:23:09.810 ⇒ 00:23:13.779 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay.
172 00:23:13.950 ⇒ 00:23:19.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, my feeling is, like, Again, like, one ticket is the smallest atomic unit at work.
173 00:23:20.320 ⇒ 00:23:26.410 Uttam Kumaran: let’s just do that. I don’t know if I could… I don’t think I can turn off,
174 00:23:27.040 ⇒ 00:23:30.149 Uttam Kumaran: Sub-issues, but, like, maybe another thing we should look into.
175 00:23:30.510 ⇒ 00:23:31.190 Brylle Girang: Gotcha.
176 00:23:31.810 ⇒ 00:23:34.299 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Okay, great.
177 00:23:34.300 ⇒ 00:23:43.330 Awaish Kumar: Then when it comes to the other ticket on CS modeling, converting into, like, the star schema, it’s in, like, you can say testing phase.
178 00:23:43.330 ⇒ 00:23:43.720 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
179 00:23:45.960 ⇒ 00:23:47.280 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, that’s all.
180 00:23:47.430 ⇒ 00:23:48.290 Awaish Kumar: So…
181 00:23:53.550 ⇒ 00:23:59.199 Samuel Roberts: Got the, linear messages up, if you want me to share still.
182 00:23:59.200 ⇒ 00:23:59.830 Uttam Kumaran: Oh yeah, yeah, please.
183 00:23:59.830 ⇒ 00:24:04.960 Samuel Roberts: What’s happening? Okay. Yeah. So…
184 00:24:05.990 ⇒ 00:24:25.920 Samuel Roberts: Gabe, with a little help from me, put this together. So basically what happens here is that this is, you can see here, so this is… like, some things need to get cleaned up, because, like, I keep, you know, this just has IDs and stuff, but what we worked on is that it takes the meeting transcript, it takes all the people, it looks up the linear IDs, it finds tickets that would need to get created, and then…
185 00:24:26.390 ⇒ 00:24:31.620 Samuel Roberts: Nice. Maps them out here. And then the big thing was that instead of just…
186 00:24:32.350 ⇒ 00:24:36.820 Uttam Kumaran: Updating a ticket, it’s gonna… it would… so there’s no… I don’t know if there’s a good example…
187 00:24:37.370 ⇒ 00:24:42.349 Samuel Roberts: It still needs some work, obviously, but there were some where I was…
188 00:24:42.470 ⇒ 00:25:00.779 Samuel Roberts: every meeting gets, processed like this, and I just get these messages right now. Here we go. So, like, this is what update. So all it’s gonna do is it’s gonna identify an issue. This is where I wanna add a little more UI stuff, and I think, Utam, some of that, chat SDK stuff would be helpful here, so I was already looking at that a little bit, but I haven’t had time to dig in, but it’ll add a comment.
189 00:25:01.020 ⇒ 00:25:04.890 Samuel Roberts: It’ll show the meeting. I want to have this actually linked to the right
190 00:25:05.060 ⇒ 00:25:16.299 Samuel Roberts: time in the meeting, so that if you need to jump in and get more context, you can. But this is just gonna add a comment. It won’t necessarily update statuses or do anything like that, yet.
191 00:25:16.610 ⇒ 00:25:33.940 Samuel Roberts: But the idea here was that you could approve any of these, and it would issue that comment, it would create these tickets, you could reject it, and it would just, you know, ignore it. And then the idea for reassign was that maybe someone else needs to make this decision if this is the right update or the right ticket, and so the thought here was it to just send it to someone else.
192 00:25:34.190 ⇒ 00:25:34.560 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
193 00:25:34.560 ⇒ 00:25:34.950 Samuel Roberts: That’s…
194 00:25:34.950 ⇒ 00:25:36.720 Uttam Kumaran: What do you guys think? Like, is this…
195 00:25:37.120 ⇒ 00:25:39.620 Uttam Kumaran: Is this helpful to, like, DM?
196 00:25:39.990 ⇒ 00:25:41.920 Uttam Kumaran: Is this helpful in the channel?
197 00:25:44.130 ⇒ 00:25:46.949 Brylle Girang: The channel would be the best bet for me.
198 00:25:48.320 ⇒ 00:25:50.060 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I think the channel’s one of my favor.
199 00:25:50.060 ⇒ 00:25:50.870 Uttam Kumaran: Everyone else.
200 00:25:51.300 ⇒ 00:25:53.550 Uttam Kumaran: Well, it’s just gonna get really loud.
201 00:25:54.840 ⇒ 00:26:00.129 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I mean, like, we’ll make this, like, a lot more, like, I’ll probably end up doing a thread.
202 00:26:01.240 ⇒ 00:26:06.579 Uttam Kumaran: So, in that case, okay, like, so, for example, A meeting would happen.
203 00:26:06.700 ⇒ 00:26:10.029 Uttam Kumaran: This thing would send to the channel, hey, a meeting just happened.
204 00:26:10.910 ⇒ 00:26:13.019 Uttam Kumaran: And look at the thread for, like.
205 00:26:13.530 ⇒ 00:26:14.820 Brylle Girang: Yeah. Changes.
206 00:26:15.530 ⇒ 00:26:18.310 Uttam Kumaran: Does that seem like… Go ahead.
207 00:26:18.760 ⇒ 00:26:21.050 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, I think that’s better. So…
208 00:26:21.050 ⇒ 00:26:24.729 Uttam Kumaran: Sorry, B, everybody… everybody… I’m trying to ask everybody else.
209 00:26:24.940 ⇒ 00:26:29.550 Uttam Kumaran: Also, because there’s Zoran, Demi, Pranav, like, what do you guys think?
210 00:26:30.830 ⇒ 00:26:34.020 Pranav Narahari: I like that idea. Yeah, thread is fine.
211 00:26:34.680 ⇒ 00:26:35.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
212 00:26:37.630 ⇒ 00:26:40.909 Uttam Kumaran: What else would you want in terms of context on these?
213 00:26:44.140 ⇒ 00:26:47.010 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I was… I was like, yeah, I’m m.
214 00:26:47.010 ⇒ 00:26:48.620 Uttam Kumaran: Take a second, think about it, yeah.
215 00:26:49.480 ⇒ 00:27:00.260 Samuel Roberts: So, just to make sure I’m understanding, so, like, a post would go through, it would say, like, meeting just happened, here’s 7 tickets to update, 8 tickets to create, and then in that thread would be the tickets? Is that the thought?
216 00:27:00.260 ⇒ 00:27:02.730 Uttam Kumaran: It wouldn’t even say that in the top level.
217 00:27:03.460 ⇒ 00:27:04.000 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay.
218 00:27:04.000 ⇒ 00:27:05.559 Uttam Kumaran: The meeting just went through.
219 00:27:07.000 ⇒ 00:27:13.940 Uttam Kumaran: Because also, like, there may be, like… I’m also thinking about there’s gonna be more than just ticket action items out of a meeting.
220 00:27:14.450 ⇒ 00:27:20.489 Uttam Kumaran: here’s a draft email that needs to get sent, here’s a draft Slack, like, blah blah blah. So everything will go to that thread. Oh, that’s true
221 00:27:21.310 ⇒ 00:27:22.090 Uttam Kumaran: Everything will go.
222 00:27:22.090 ⇒ 00:27:23.759 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay. Okay.
223 00:27:23.760 ⇒ 00:27:24.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
224 00:27:24.270 ⇒ 00:27:30.040 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Yeah. I think… Okay, okay.
225 00:27:30.330 ⇒ 00:27:31.440 Samuel Roberts: I can see that.
226 00:27:32.840 ⇒ 00:27:36.510 Samuel Roberts: Part of the issue here is knowing where to send things after meetings.
227 00:27:37.350 ⇒ 00:27:41.700 Samuel Roberts: because, like, right now we have participants, and we have…
228 00:27:42.170 ⇒ 00:27:46.629 Samuel Roberts: Maybe what the client was, or the team was?
229 00:27:48.550 ⇒ 00:27:53.659 Samuel Roberts: My thought was just to send it to the host, initially, because that’s the one thing we know is certain.
230 00:27:53.980 ⇒ 00:27:56.670 Samuel Roberts: So we’ll have to map.
231 00:27:57.310 ⇒ 00:28:00.799 Samuel Roberts: channels, right? I think right now we only have people IDs, mostly.
232 00:28:01.000 ⇒ 00:28:03.309 Samuel Roberts: Map to things, but we can…
233 00:28:03.310 ⇒ 00:28:10.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess I’m less worried about… yeah, we’ll figure that out, but if you guys are all okay with this, tell me, is there anything else…
234 00:28:11.080 ⇒ 00:28:11.600 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, you guys?
235 00:28:11.600 ⇒ 00:28:12.480 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, like, what else would you like?
236 00:28:12.480 ⇒ 00:28:12.839 Uttam Kumaran: do another one.
237 00:28:12.840 ⇒ 00:28:13.740 Samuel Roberts: here.
238 00:28:13.740 ⇒ 00:28:14.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
239 00:28:14.860 ⇒ 00:28:18.219 Samuel Roberts: And yeah, the actual, like, blocks and everything, this was all kind of…
240 00:28:18.400 ⇒ 00:28:31.569 Samuel Roberts: bespoke coded quickly to get something out, but we’re gonna try to use the chat SDK so that we can actually have, like, cards, and it’ll maybe be a little bit better, potentially be able to edit things, I don’t know yet, what’s possible there.
241 00:28:35.820 ⇒ 00:28:40.389 Pranav Narahari: How I would see myself using this as CSO is, yeah, I see this thread.
242 00:28:40.550 ⇒ 00:28:49.429 Pranav Narahari: based on what we discussed in the meeting, I’m gonna be able to approve most of these, and then the ones… or reject them, I’ll be able to make a decision.
243 00:28:49.760 ⇒ 00:29:01.340 Pranav Narahari: And then, in that same thread, like, let’s say I have to tag Sam, I have to tag somebody else to get further context, like, I can just do that, and that seems like a pretty easy process, and then…
244 00:29:02.060 ⇒ 00:29:11.630 Pranav Narahari: it’s all… it’s all being captured right there. Nothing’s in DMs, nothing is in, like, separate threads, even. Like, everything is just right there.
245 00:29:15.570 ⇒ 00:29:23.239 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so if we’re doing it in the channel, we probably don’t need the reassign button then, because everyone in the channel should be able to do this, so that’s fine.
246 00:29:24.280 ⇒ 00:29:26.460 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I feel like that’s enough, like, I think, I think I have enough.
247 00:29:26.460 ⇒ 00:29:26.780 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
248 00:29:26.780 ⇒ 00:29:29.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, to think about this next version, so that’s great, okay.
249 00:29:29.520 ⇒ 00:29:31.219 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I haven’t gotten to touch it really since…
250 00:29:31.500 ⇒ 00:29:34.430 Samuel Roberts: Since Gabe finished up with it and kind of handed it off, but…
251 00:29:34.900 ⇒ 00:29:37.989 Uttam Kumaran: I guess Zoran or Debbie, did you have any other thoughts?
252 00:29:37.990 ⇒ 00:29:38.610 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
253 00:29:41.220 ⇒ 00:29:52.209 Zoran Selinger: No, I mean, as long as it’s not, it’s not, it’s not noisy, we should be good. So, yeah, so we hit a very quick bullet point about the ticket.
254 00:29:52.520 ⇒ 00:29:58.339 Zoran Selinger: And yeah, those, those buttons, look fine. If we need to…
255 00:29:58.760 ⇒ 00:30:04.759 Zoran Selinger: So, I’m thinking about CCing someone about a particular item.
256 00:30:04.990 ⇒ 00:30:08.540 Zoran Selinger: If it’s… if we open… if we open a thread.
257 00:30:08.640 ⇒ 00:30:12.699 Zoran Selinger: You can’t reply to the thread reply, right?
258 00:30:12.990 ⇒ 00:30:13.810 Zoran Selinger: Or can we?
259 00:30:13.810 ⇒ 00:30:24.670 Uttam Kumaran: Well, you can just reply in the thread and tag somebody. The other thing you can do is you can take an individual message on the thread.
260 00:30:24.780 ⇒ 00:30:26.180 Uttam Kumaran: And forward it.
261 00:30:26.350 ⇒ 00:30:27.279 Uttam Kumaran: Into the channel.
262 00:30:27.510 ⇒ 00:30:28.260 Zoran Selinger: Yeah.
263 00:30:28.260 ⇒ 00:30:28.830 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
264 00:30:29.810 ⇒ 00:30:30.630 Uttam Kumaran: So…
265 00:30:30.630 ⇒ 00:30:33.860 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, so you should just give me a separate message in the thread, and then we can…
266 00:30:34.290 ⇒ 00:30:36.100 Samuel Roberts: Reference them that way, probably. Yeah.
267 00:30:37.250 ⇒ 00:30:49.489 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so sometimes, I wonder, yeah, yeah, we can, we can, yeah, we can do that copy. Sometimes maybe we, we would want to surface one of those things into the channel.
268 00:30:50.410 ⇒ 00:30:56.270 Zoran Selinger: Not inside the tread, but maybe take it outside of the tread. Yeah.
269 00:30:57.470 ⇒ 00:31:02.020 Zoran Selinger: I don’t know how… Like, a single item, maybe just a…
270 00:31:03.120 ⇒ 00:31:06.149 Zoran Selinger: In this version, it would have to be, what, a screenshot?
271 00:31:10.150 ⇒ 00:31:11.459 Zoran Selinger: Oh yeah, I don’t think… Yeah, okay.
272 00:31:11.460 ⇒ 00:31:11.940 Uttam Kumaran: Sweet.
273 00:31:11.940 ⇒ 00:31:12.360 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
274 00:31:12.360 ⇒ 00:31:20.249 Uttam Kumaran: We’re running out of time, so, like, let’s… I’ll figure it, yeah, we’ll figure it out. This is enough, so I think we’re good. Yeah. Alright, cool. So then, okay, let’s talk about,
275 00:31:23.490 ⇒ 00:31:32.779 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think Element, so Amber and Greg are gonna take the definitions, that’s fine. On Eden Command Center, we’re not signed yet, so we’re not… there’s no work on this.
276 00:31:33.330 ⇒ 00:31:39.569 Uttam Kumaran: Thing, so… As long as everybody’s on the same page there. I don’t know…
277 00:31:40.000 ⇒ 00:31:45.329 Uttam Kumaran: Pranav, is this, like, confirmed? Like, I… I… No, nothing’s essential.
278 00:31:45.330 ⇒ 00:31:59.070 Pranav Narahari: Not to my knowledge. There’s a Slack channel right now where Robert and Danny are having comms. I’m in it. But as of yesterday, there hasn’t been any additional messaging there. I don’t know if…
279 00:31:59.390 ⇒ 00:32:01.260 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I wasn’t sure if, like.
280 00:32:01.710 ⇒ 00:32:06.129 Pranav Narahari: Maybe y’all had more information on that, but to my knowledge, nothing’s been confirmed.
281 00:32:08.810 ⇒ 00:32:09.360 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
282 00:32:09.860 ⇒ 00:32:18.120 Pranav Narahari: But in that, document that Robert made, he did say start date of Monday. I don’t know if that’s just to kind of push them, like a…
283 00:32:18.120 ⇒ 00:32:18.750 Uttam Kumaran: time.
284 00:32:18.980 ⇒ 00:32:19.570 Pranav Narahari: Yep.
285 00:32:20.030 ⇒ 00:32:21.230 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
286 00:32:22.990 ⇒ 00:32:26.569 Samuel Roberts: What is that, what is that looking like, size, like, scope-wise, how big.
287 00:32:27.190 ⇒ 00:32:35.370 Pranav Narahari: We initially scoped it as, like, a four-phased approach, which would take 3 months.
288 00:32:35.480 ⇒ 00:32:39.739 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I can talk to you more about, like, just, like, I can.
289 00:32:39.740 ⇒ 00:32:40.310 Samuel Roberts: That’s fine, yeah.
290 00:32:41.680 ⇒ 00:32:46.029 Samuel Roberts: That’d be cool, yeah. No, I was just trying to think about, like, hours, kind of, roughly, per week, kind of thing.
291 00:32:47.100 ⇒ 00:32:48.570 Pranav Narahari: Gotcha, yeah.
292 00:32:51.420 ⇒ 00:32:52.209 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we can talk offline.
293 00:32:52.210 ⇒ 00:32:57.040 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I feel like all this is great. What else, guys? Anything else?
294 00:32:57.720 ⇒ 00:33:02.559 Uttam Kumaran: That’s, worry or risk we want to talk about?
295 00:33:02.760 ⇒ 00:33:04.180 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, so…
296 00:33:04.180 ⇒ 00:33:04.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
297 00:33:04.640 ⇒ 00:33:10.490 Zoran Selinger: I wanted to bring up, so, we have… both Greg and Robert out.
298 00:33:10.680 ⇒ 00:33:25.800 Zoran Selinger: For Eden, for the rest of the week. So I wanted to see, so no one handed anything off to me, but I… I know I might get, I might get calls, so I was thinking about, you know,
299 00:33:26.270 ⇒ 00:33:31.530 Zoran Selinger: How long should I stay on, especially tomorrow?
300 00:33:31.670 ⇒ 00:33:35.719 Zoran Selinger: before, before, I… Yeah, so I can do two.
301 00:33:35.720 ⇒ 00:33:36.720 Uttam Kumaran: things.
302 00:33:37.220 ⇒ 00:33:44.499 Uttam Kumaran: I talked to both of them, and they didn’t flag anything.
303 00:33:45.080 ⇒ 00:33:47.739 Uttam Kumaran: I’m happy to text Greg and be like.
304 00:33:48.750 ⇒ 00:33:52.989 Uttam Kumaran: Yo, does Zoran need to handle anything? Let’s see what he says?
305 00:33:55.930 ⇒ 00:33:57.550 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, what do you think?
306 00:33:57.980 ⇒ 00:34:02.399 Zoran Selinger: No, I mean, that’s fine. If they never handed anything off, that’s fine.
307 00:34:02.400 ⇒ 00:34:08.070 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I’m like, if you’re worried that they should’ve, then I’m just gonna text them. It’s gonna be… it’ll be easy for me.
308 00:34:08.370 ⇒ 00:34:11.250 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, okay, cool, that’s fine, that’s fine. I just wanted to.
309 00:34:11.250 ⇒ 00:34:18.360 Uttam Kumaran: You see, remember to yesterday that if you’re nervous, I’m really nervous.
310 00:34:18.360 ⇒ 00:34:19.480 Zoran Selinger: No, neither.
311 00:34:19.480 ⇒ 00:34:27.909 Uttam Kumaran: I’m so far, I’m so far from eating. Now, I know you’re not nervous either, but, like, it’s a tense client, so I want to make sure you’re, like, 1000%, you know?
312 00:34:30.190 ⇒ 00:34:36.939 Zoran Selinger: It’s, it’s not about art at all. My question was mostly about, about,
313 00:34:37.560 ⇒ 00:34:40.310 Zoran Selinger: How long should I stay on?
314 00:34:41.139 ⇒ 00:34:41.899 Uttam Kumaran: Oh…
315 00:34:41.900 ⇒ 00:34:42.290 Zoran Selinger: Justin.
316 00:34:43.840 ⇒ 00:34:44.380 Zoran Selinger: On purpose.
317 00:34:44.659 ⇒ 00:34:48.389 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, especially, yeah, especially tomorrow, yeah.
318 00:34:48.639 ⇒ 00:34:51.169 Zoran Selinger: That’s basically.
319 00:34:51.170 ⇒ 00:34:53.140 Uttam Kumaran: Bea, are you in all the Eden channels?
320 00:34:53.750 ⇒ 00:34:55.860 Brylle Girang: The external ones, no.
321 00:34:58.680 ⇒ 00:35:00.509 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I, yeah.
322 00:35:00.800 ⇒ 00:35:05.200 Zoran Selinger: And when I do send, like, a daily update and I sign off,
323 00:35:05.370 ⇒ 00:35:11.300 Zoran Selinger: you guys are still gonna be online, so I just wanna point them to someone,
324 00:35:13.610 ⇒ 00:35:17.210 Zoran Selinger: I’m gonna stay a little bit later than usual tomorrow, of course.
325 00:35:17.650 ⇒ 00:35:19.350 Zoran Selinger: Because of that.
326 00:35:23.220 ⇒ 00:35:23.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
327 00:35:24.470 ⇒ 00:35:30.880 Uttam Kumaran: I think what I’m gonna do, is add…
328 00:35:33.870 ⇒ 00:35:38.679 Uttam Kumaran: Bryle to this channel, I think… B, just be very careful.
329 00:35:39.180 ⇒ 00:35:42.319 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I probably wouldn’t send anything, to be honest.
330 00:35:42.630 ⇒ 00:35:43.190 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
331 00:35:43.190 ⇒ 00:35:48.090 Uttam Kumaran: Because then you’re gonna start getting tagged, and this is kind of a sometimes intense client.
332 00:35:49.230 ⇒ 00:35:55.610 Uttam Kumaran: But what I would prefer you to do is, like, for example, You see things like…
333 00:35:55.850 ⇒ 00:35:58.439 Uttam Kumaran: And this is the external Eden channel.
334 00:36:01.910 ⇒ 00:36:09.690 Uttam Kumaran: Like, for example, a group of us are trying to measure improvements in retention threads. Okay, understand how we can do this to this report?
335 00:36:10.320 ⇒ 00:36:12.780 Uttam Kumaran: Was there a ticket for this, right?
336 00:36:13.040 ⇒ 00:36:16.469 Uttam Kumaran: So there’s some small things like that, like, I think it could be helpful.
337 00:36:16.780 ⇒ 00:36:22.150 Uttam Kumaran: And then… I’m kind of interested…
338 00:36:23.030 ⇒ 00:36:25.449 Uttam Kumaran: If anything blows up Friday, like, I’ll be here.
339 00:36:26.150 ⇒ 00:36:29.919 Uttam Kumaran: I’m sure, like, Awash or some people will be online.
340 00:36:30.360 ⇒ 00:36:31.909 Uttam Kumaran: So… I think…
341 00:36:32.520 ⇒ 00:36:37.320 Uttam Kumaran: If this is the… if you want B in another channel to monitor, then add him there.
342 00:36:37.810 ⇒ 00:36:39.880 Zoran Selinger: Yeah. That way, it’ll get…
343 00:36:39.880 ⇒ 00:36:42.419 Uttam Kumaran: That way, even if you log off, it’ll surface to me.
344 00:36:42.710 ⇒ 00:36:43.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.
345 00:36:44.050 ⇒ 00:36:44.750 Zoran Selinger: Yeah, yeah.
346 00:36:45.200 ⇒ 00:36:47.429 Uttam Kumaran: So, B, I think the biggest thing here is, like.
347 00:36:47.710 ⇒ 00:36:56.690 Uttam Kumaran: this team could just use some help, like, probably creating tickets. The one thing I would suggest, though, is… is do, like, this.
348 00:36:56.890 ⇒ 00:36:57.230 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
349 00:36:57.230 ⇒ 00:37:03.099 Uttam Kumaran: I think this should work, but, like, I usually send it to Eden, and then I’ll be, like, at linear…
350 00:37:03.350 ⇒ 00:37:05.339 Uttam Kumaran: Like, create this ticket.
351 00:37:05.550 ⇒ 00:37:08.240 Uttam Kumaran: And Eden… Bored.
352 00:37:09.290 ⇒ 00:37:13.109 Uttam Kumaran: I do this for two reasons. One, I don’t… I think it’s, like.
353 00:37:14.080 ⇒ 00:37:20.449 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I think it’s annoying to do that in client channels. Second, I want to see other people. I want other people to see me doing this.
354 00:37:21.030 ⇒ 00:37:21.530 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
355 00:37:21.530 ⇒ 00:37:25.530 Uttam Kumaran: So I can be kind of annoying about making sure that linear’s up to date.
356 00:37:25.860 ⇒ 00:37:32.119 Uttam Kumaran: So, this sort of stuff, I think, is just helpful, as me and you kind of are across a bunch of clients, just to do.
357 00:37:32.230 ⇒ 00:37:38.489 Uttam Kumaran: But I think… I don’t want us… I don’t want us to be able… us to force to be doing this, like…
358 00:37:38.750 ⇒ 00:37:42.080 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, this should have been a Greg thing immediately, right?
359 00:37:42.350 ⇒ 00:37:45.360 Uttam Kumaran: So… Cool. Okay.
360 00:37:46.840 ⇒ 00:37:48.180 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else?
361 00:37:56.860 ⇒ 00:37:58.249 Pranav Narahari: Well, one question… I guess Pranavo.
362 00:37:58.250 ⇒ 00:37:59.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, go ahead.
363 00:37:59.550 ⇒ 00:38:09.570 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, on ABC, so… I kind of want to just talk about, like, what I’ve been thinking about doing, like, well, I know what we’re doing this week, next couple weeks, too.
364 00:38:09.570 ⇒ 00:38:09.940 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.
365 00:38:10.940 ⇒ 00:38:23.059 Pranav Narahari: So, in terms of deliverables, how it’s looking like week over week is… so this week, we’re talking about just, like, accuracy improvements and, execution time improvements.
366 00:38:23.580 ⇒ 00:38:36.109 Pranav Narahari: Actually, this week is just… actually, it’s… yeah, it’s both. Next week, also gonna, like, send them an additional report with, like, the additional things that we’re working on, with just, like, how it’s increased accuracy, how it’s decreased execution time.
367 00:38:36.280 ⇒ 00:38:38.830 Pranav Narahari: what I’m hoping for… what I’m gonna…
368 00:38:40.630 ⇒ 00:38:47.089 Pranav Narahari: and maybe I need to, like, just sync with, like, Amber a little bit more on this, is, like, have they set, like, a…
369 00:38:47.350 ⇒ 00:38:56.030 Pranav Narahari: an amount, like, of… like, an execution time, like, where they’re like, okay, this is good. No. Because my fear is just, like, they’re gonna keep on being, like, we want fast.
370 00:38:56.030 ⇒ 00:39:04.129 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, I don’t think… so… so on this client, like, they’re… I think that’s a good fear, but they’re not the ones pushing for improvements, like I was.
371 00:39:04.390 ⇒ 00:39:05.710 Uttam Kumaran: Mainly.
372 00:39:05.960 ⇒ 00:39:12.170 Uttam Kumaran: Because 15 second, 20-second execution time is, like, OD.
373 00:39:12.840 ⇒ 00:39:13.160 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
374 00:39:13.160 ⇒ 00:39:25.339 Uttam Kumaran: So, if you just bring it down, like, to something reasonable, and you test it, and you’re happy, like, so I guess my… my point there is, like, I would like to transfer my level of expectation to you.
375 00:39:25.850 ⇒ 00:39:26.170 Pranav Narahari: That’s true.
376 00:39:26.170 ⇒ 00:39:27.570 Uttam Kumaran: Not coming from the client.
377 00:39:27.700 ⇒ 00:39:38.310 Uttam Kumaran: Because the… just the client is… I mean, one, they’re very, very nice, but second, like, they’re new to this, so they don’t have, like, demands. They’re really trusting us to continue to improve the system.
378 00:39:38.340 ⇒ 00:39:49.819 Uttam Kumaran: I felt that, like, continuing to run this system that’s affecting, like, hundreds of people through N8N with, like, limited visibility, and we had all these issues, I was like, that’s a fiasco, so, like.
379 00:39:49.900 ⇒ 00:39:51.150 Pranav Narahari: We should move it.
380 00:39:51.700 ⇒ 00:39:52.070 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
381 00:39:52.070 ⇒ 00:39:54.829 Uttam Kumaran: like, I think you should continue to, like.
382 00:39:55.080 ⇒ 00:40:03.820 Uttam Kumaran: think about what… you should do some… you should maybe do some research, or, like, continue to think about what are, like, P90, P95
383 00:40:04.030 ⇒ 00:40:05.990 Uttam Kumaran: Execution times are.
384 00:40:05.990 ⇒ 00:40:06.680 Pranav Narahari: Yep.
385 00:40:06.680 ⇒ 00:40:12.179 Uttam Kumaran: And attack that, but… it’s not, like, a never-ending thing there. So if you can achieve a win.
386 00:40:12.280 ⇒ 00:40:18.109 Uttam Kumaran: and say, like, most things are now under X amount of time, they’re before this, like, you find a logical stopping point.
387 00:40:19.630 ⇒ 00:40:30.739 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. The other really big piece here is just, like, we want to minimize failures. Like, before, we would have, like, outages, and so it’s not only, like, outages, but time to resolution.
388 00:40:30.880 ⇒ 00:40:41.740 Uttam Kumaran: So those are the two key KPIs there, like, how many outages are happening, and how long, because sometimes we had, like, a day or, like, hours between things getting fixed.
389 00:40:42.260 ⇒ 00:40:50.089 Uttam Kumaran: So, like… Again, you could fix that through, like, okay, there’s more, like, testing on code that gets in.
390 00:40:50.240 ⇒ 00:40:52.270 Uttam Kumaran: There’s more automated testing.
391 00:40:52.730 ⇒ 00:40:57.440 Uttam Kumaran: And there’s, like, runbooks on, like, how to investigate. But I think broadly.
392 00:40:57.580 ⇒ 00:41:04.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, part of this whole sprint was just to get this into a new system so it’s easier to maintain and observe.
393 00:41:04.730 ⇒ 00:41:06.579 Samuel Roberts: Pain, easier to add things.
394 00:41:06.580 ⇒ 00:41:06.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
395 00:41:06.910 ⇒ 00:41:19.300 Samuel Roberts: be able to lock versions, because NADN kept doing weird things where, like, nodes would update, even though we wouldn’t update NADN, and that’s why things broke. We’re locking it down, so, like, that’s why it went to code, kind of. So, one of the reasons.
396 00:41:19.300 ⇒ 00:41:28.319 Pranav Narahari: That makes sense. So, are we just… do I just bring these things? Because, like, yeah, I can keep on thinking of ideas like that, and we just keep on tacking on weeks and weeks, or…
397 00:41:28.560 ⇒ 00:41:31.869 Pranav Narahari: that… do we want to create, like, a specific, like, SOW.
398 00:41:31.870 ⇒ 00:41:40.649 Uttam Kumaran: No, well, that’s why, like, I want… I need to see the plan to be able to give you guidance on, like, what’s worth… what… what my recommendation is on what’s working on. So…
399 00:41:40.650 ⇒ 00:41:44.099 Pranav Narahari: We have, like, we have a year-long contract with these guys.
400 00:41:44.170 ⇒ 00:41:48.199 Uttam Kumaran: And you should take a look at the SOW, because our contract is based on usage.
401 00:41:48.570 ⇒ 00:41:51.790 Pranav Narahari: Yeah. The more people use it, the more we get paid.
402 00:41:51.960 ⇒ 00:41:54.599 Uttam Kumaran: So your job is to increase usage.
403 00:41:55.070 ⇒ 00:41:56.910 Uttam Kumaran: The better the product is.
404 00:41:57.330 ⇒ 00:42:05.039 Uttam Kumaran: my thing was, like, it’s gonna get used more. Ultimately, like, that’s what I need you to just focus on.
405 00:42:05.260 ⇒ 00:42:16.830 Uttam Kumaran: Ideas, like, yes, also, like, I would like there to be more than, like, just a few people thinking about ideas, but then, like, me, you, and Sam should all discuss and decide on the roadmap.
406 00:42:17.020 ⇒ 00:42:20.039 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s why it’s like, if you can tell me what we’re planning.
407 00:42:20.180 ⇒ 00:42:22.159 Uttam Kumaran: For the rest of this month, next month.
408 00:42:22.850 ⇒ 00:42:29.489 Uttam Kumaran: And then we can just… we can hash it out and, like, start to map it out on what we think is gonna be the highest leverage things to work on.
409 00:42:29.730 ⇒ 00:42:30.819 Uttam Kumaran: You know…
410 00:42:30.820 ⇒ 00:42:31.400 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
411 00:42:31.940 ⇒ 00:42:32.650 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
412 00:42:32.650 ⇒ 00:42:44.329 Pranav Narahari: So, yeah, that was my plan for today. Like, yesterday we’re just wrapping up, like, a few of, like, the priority items for, like, to deliver this week, but today I’ll have a little bit more time, hopefully, and then definitely tomorrow to just, like.
413 00:42:44.450 ⇒ 00:42:51.579 Pranav Narahari: we’ve talked about a few different things, like how we can increase accuracy, like, this, like, outage thing wasn’t something I was really aware of before, so…
414 00:42:51.760 ⇒ 00:42:58.500 Pranav Narahari: That’s… I can look into how we can… because, yeah, that’s obviously gonna affect usage very directly, so… .
415 00:42:58.500 ⇒ 00:43:10.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so that’s why it’s like, I think the faster I can see something that’s like, here’s what we’re working on this month, here’s what we’re gonna be working on next month, like, here’s our proposal, I can give you feedback. But, like.
416 00:43:11.620 ⇒ 00:43:22.620 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, until then, like, I can’t… yeah, I kind of want you to take a first pass at that, given your all understanding, because I’ll continue to fill in the gaps, but it’s not going to be helpful for me to just, like, tell you
417 00:43:23.090 ⇒ 00:43:24.230 Uttam Kumaran: everything.
418 00:43:25.200 ⇒ 00:43:30.450 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll fill in the, like, lore holes that still exist, but… I want you to…
419 00:43:30.760 ⇒ 00:43:38.029 Uttam Kumaran: to get creative and think about, okay, what else could be helpful here? And there’s still a lot of… there’s still a lot of things to do, like…
420 00:43:38.250 ⇒ 00:43:51.690 Uttam Kumaran: you know, there’s still a lot we could do with the transcripts. I think there’s still a lot we could do with training and onboarding. Like, there’s 100% people are underusing the tool. Like, they’re not using it on every call.
421 00:43:51.800 ⇒ 00:43:57.139 Uttam Kumaran: And so, there’s ways for us to continue to tackle and model, like, usage.
422 00:43:57.360 ⇒ 00:43:58.829 Uttam Kumaran: You know…
423 00:44:00.060 ⇒ 00:44:00.840 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
424 00:44:01.110 ⇒ 00:44:02.470 Pranav Narahari: Does,
425 00:44:03.190 ⇒ 00:44:13.009 Pranav Narahari: this month, like, what kind of… and I haven’t really talked in depth about it, like, with you, but I feel pretty clear about what we’re gonna work… like, what we’re working on this week, next week, the week after.
426 00:44:13.010 ⇒ 00:44:14.670 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t feel clear about that.
427 00:44:14.860 ⇒ 00:44:19.570 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Because I haven’t… I asked on Monday, and so there wasn’t clarity, so as soon as you…
428 00:44:19.570 ⇒ 00:44:21.489 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, I think something to reflect…
429 00:44:21.490 ⇒ 00:44:26.039 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t… Yeah, if you send me something to reflect on, or we can grab time…
430 00:44:26.840 ⇒ 00:44:30.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, sure. Yeah, if you wanna… and we could do that before…
431 00:44:30.830 ⇒ 00:44:33.660 Uttam Kumaran: the ABC call at some point, too, so…
432 00:44:33.740 ⇒ 00:44:35.209 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, let me set something up.
433 00:44:35.710 ⇒ 00:44:36.300 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
434 00:44:58.340 ⇒ 00:45:03.449 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, I would like us to confirm… March and April.
435 00:45:04.030 ⇒ 00:45:09.900 Uttam Kumaran: Get everything ticketed and in phase, and then… plan out May, June.
436 00:45:11.010 ⇒ 00:45:18.319 Uttam Kumaran: And then you’ll… you’ll be one of the few clients with 3 months of roadmap. So, like, that… I would like… if you could do that.
437 00:45:18.790 ⇒ 00:45:24.219 Uttam Kumaran: Within the next week, You’ll really set, because then you can just lock in on executing.
438 00:45:24.340 ⇒ 00:45:29.049 Uttam Kumaran: But otherwise, like, on this client, we’ve always got back to this phase of ideating too much.
439 00:45:29.300 ⇒ 00:45:37.049 Uttam Kumaran: And it’s really hard to do, like, set the… set as much of the roadmap, and you have an opportunity on this client, because we can set the roadmap.
440 00:45:37.730 ⇒ 00:45:40.090 Uttam Kumaran: To just do that, you know, so…
441 00:45:41.030 ⇒ 00:45:47.220 Uttam Kumaran: It could just be a bolded list of ideas and things like that, like, it really just has to be, like, what do we want to work on?
442 00:45:47.330 ⇒ 00:45:50.410 Uttam Kumaran: How does it impact usage? And then it’s easy for us to ticket it out.
443 00:46:06.180 ⇒ 00:46:12.530 Uttam Kumaran: And then I told Bea to give you some assistance on the… on the deck as well, so… .
444 00:46:12.950 ⇒ 00:46:17.469 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, so, I finished up, like…
445 00:46:18.310 ⇒ 00:46:25.080 Pranav Narahari: part of the deck, part of what I’m gonna do today, too, is, Casey gave an update before he went out of office. I’m just going to…
446 00:46:25.440 ⇒ 00:46:36.660 Pranav Narahari: like, show that in the deck a little bit. Like, put some, like, the high-level, accuracy updates in there, while then also going into the spreadsheet itself during our call.
447 00:46:36.750 ⇒ 00:46:46.369 Pranav Narahari: And then there’s another report that I’m making today, which is just gonna categorize all the different questions from this last week, talk a little bit about what
448 00:46:47.870 ⇒ 00:46:57.230 Pranav Narahari: just talk a little bit about the different categories. They said they wanted to do that this week. And then also just the… all the thumbs up and thumbs down as well.
449 00:46:58.300 ⇒ 00:46:58.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
450 00:47:01.750 ⇒ 00:47:06.099 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Yeah, I want the… I just want the presentation to get a bit tighter, because…
451 00:47:06.210 ⇒ 00:47:09.659 Uttam Kumaran: It would be great to, like, look at data, it’d be great to look at feedback.
452 00:47:09.770 ⇒ 00:47:11.749 Uttam Kumaran: We get to look at a roadmap, like…
453 00:47:12.130 ⇒ 00:47:19.599 Uttam Kumaran: For the main thing, we usually just showed, like, what we did that week. Like, I want to start to give them a further view, if possible, so…
454 00:47:19.770 ⇒ 00:47:25.640 Uttam Kumaran: As soon as you, like, have a version, like, you could work with B on it, and then, yeah, I can review whenever.
455 00:47:26.370 ⇒ 00:47:29.269 Pranav Narahari: Yeah, B, I’ll send this to you right now.
456 00:47:29.750 ⇒ 00:47:30.270 Brylle Girang: Okay.
457 00:47:37.340 ⇒ 00:47:37.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
458 00:47:38.180 ⇒ 00:47:45.539 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. B, did you want to share… Any… Skills or anything?
459 00:47:45.930 ⇒ 00:47:46.520 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
460 00:47:47.380 ⇒ 00:47:49.739 Brylle Girang: Let me share my screen.
461 00:47:54.610 ⇒ 00:47:56.910 Brylle Girang: And my device is dying.
462 00:47:59.700 ⇒ 00:48:14.279 Brylle Girang: Yeah, so, we have pushed lots of skills and lots of standards when it comes to, like, email communications to their client, and we’re also going to start building the standards for other mediums.
463 00:48:14.330 ⇒ 00:48:33.649 Brylle Girang: Part of this push is us just creating skills dedicated to Google Workspace emails. So we now have the Google Workspace CLI, and as well as the Google Workspace MCPs installed in our repo, so you can use the Google Workspace MCP to basically do anything that you want within Google.
464 00:48:33.780 ⇒ 00:48:46.820 Brylle Girang: What our focus here is going to be, like, drafting emails, or actually searching your Gmail or your inboxes for any, any messages that you want to… that you want to search.
465 00:48:47.080 ⇒ 00:49:03.419 Brylle Girang: So for this round, I’m just trying to, like, create a weekly kickoff update for Element, and this is going to be my example, just to show you how the skills that we’re building are not really stand-alone skills. The main purpose of this is for us to build workflows
466 00:49:03.420 ⇒ 00:49:09.230 Brylle Girang: That are interconnected, so that whatever you want to do, it uses all available resources that we have.
467 00:49:09.760 ⇒ 00:49:29.659 Brylle Girang: So, we can see here that this is about a weekly kickoff update, but I want this to be sent via email. So, it’s using two main skills that we have right now in our repo. The first one is the weekly kickoff update, which if you have used this week, you will be familiar. It searches linear, it searches the notes, everything.
468 00:49:29.740 ⇒ 00:49:41.309 Brylle Girang: just for us to send a weekly kickoff update to a client. And since we now have standards for emails, and we now have the MCPs for Google Workspace.
469 00:49:41.580 ⇒ 00:49:55.380 Brylle Girang: it will draft the email version that we can just send over to the client. So, completely formatted for Google, for Gmail, that you can just, you know, review, draft, and then send over to the client.
470 00:49:55.500 ⇒ 00:50:02.389 Brylle Girang: I can actually send this over using Cursor without even going to Gmail, but I won’t.
471 00:50:02.550 ⇒ 00:50:07.490 Brylle Girang: But you can try that out. Maybe the best way to go about this is just…
472 00:50:07.640 ⇒ 00:50:15.309 Brylle Girang: As cursor to create a draft in your inbox. I have tried it, and it just creates a draft that you can just check in Gmail instead.
473 00:50:16.560 ⇒ 00:50:32.279 Brylle Girang: So yeah, this is just one part of the skills that we’re building when it comes to, like, communications and our standards when it comes to communicating with our clients. The next skills that we’re going to be building revolves around Slack messages, other forms of meeting.
474 00:50:33.450 ⇒ 00:50:35.269 Brylle Girang: Any questions about this?
475 00:50:40.010 ⇒ 00:50:47.329 Uttam Kumaran: So hopefully things like draft me an email, draft me a Slack are now actually, like, formatted way easier, so you’re not, like, worried about,
476 00:50:48.020 ⇒ 00:50:57.269 Uttam Kumaran: like, random shit in the message. And then, you can also now, actually have it draft messages in your Gmail.
477 00:50:57.390 ⇒ 00:51:00.890 Uttam Kumaran: You can ask it to send your message if you’re also very confident.
478 00:51:01.050 ⇒ 00:51:04.880 Uttam Kumaran: You can have it create calendar invites, so a lot of stuff…
479 00:51:05.150 ⇒ 00:51:07.390 Uttam Kumaran: You can… you wanna do in…
480 00:51:07.500 ⇒ 00:51:09.950 Uttam Kumaran: Google Workspace you can do through a cursor now.
481 00:51:10.540 ⇒ 00:51:13.010 Brylle Girang: Yeah, and I think one of the…
482 00:51:13.180 ⇒ 00:51:25.179 Brylle Girang: A best part of this is that if there are client communications via your email inbox that you want to maybe rummage through, it will be able to do that without you actually going through your email inboxes.
483 00:51:25.270 ⇒ 00:51:37.049 Brylle Girang: So, most of our mediums are covered. We have Slack, we have Linear, we have emails now. There’s little to no chance that things should miss, as long as we use these skills.
484 00:51:38.460 ⇒ 00:51:46.809 Demilade Agboola: A couple things. In terms of the notes for our clients, I think maybe weekly calls, or weekly updates, sorry, this is fine.
485 00:51:46.910 ⇒ 00:52:00.680 Demilade Agboola: But in terms of daily updates, do we have a skill for that? And potentially, would it be less wordy? Like, because this is… this is a lot of words. Do we want to keep sending that every day, and can we have, like, a shorter…
486 00:52:00.780 ⇒ 00:52:03.369 Demilade Agboola: More summarized version for, like, daily updates.
487 00:52:03.980 ⇒ 00:52:15.629 Brylle Girang: Yeah, my point here is that as much as possible, the skills that we’re building gives you all the information that you need, so that it’s easier to just take things out of that.
488 00:52:15.770 ⇒ 00:52:35.400 Brylle Girang: In my opinion, it’s better to, like, have everything delivered to you, and then you can just choose the topics that you want to present, than the skill not giving you everything, and then you’re going to miss something, right? But when it comes to, like, daily updates, you can definitely use this skill. Skills are not…
489 00:52:35.420 ⇒ 00:52:46.639 Brylle Girang: or not fix. It’s just a guide for a cursor, so if you just ask, hey, use this skill, but I want… but I just want an update for the last two days, for yesterday, it can definitely do that.
490 00:52:47.790 ⇒ 00:52:50.810 Demilade Agboola: Okay. That’s great.
491 00:52:50.970 ⇒ 00:52:52.280 Demilade Agboola: I’m.
492 00:52:52.280 ⇒ 00:52:54.900 Brylle Girang: That works really well, is that if you could just…
493 00:52:55.070 ⇒ 00:53:04.720 Brylle Girang: give a specific set of topics that you want to maybe discuss, and tell Cursor to make it short, or make it less proposed, then that should work.
494 00:53:07.120 ⇒ 00:53:08.489 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I guess, like.
495 00:53:08.630 ⇒ 00:53:12.750 Uttam Kumaran: Mainly, we just wanted to have enough information, and then you can cut it down.
496 00:53:12.880 ⇒ 00:53:17.340 Uttam Kumaran: I think over time we’ll get it just right, but… I think it’s…
497 00:53:18.510 ⇒ 00:53:20.949 Uttam Kumaran: Helpful sometimes, so it doesn’t cut things out.
498 00:53:21.140 ⇒ 00:53:21.670 Brylle Girang: Yep.
499 00:53:24.440 ⇒ 00:53:27.880 Samuel Roberts: How have you found the MCP versus the CLI? Curious.
500 00:53:29.360 ⇒ 00:53:36.550 Brylle Girang: I’m going to speak on behalf of the MCP, it works. Otama, I think you can speak on behalf of the CLI, because it doesn’t work for me.
501 00:53:37.460 ⇒ 00:53:39.099 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think,
502 00:53:39.830 ⇒ 00:53:47.459 Uttam Kumaran: I think both will work. The MCP, we just spent more time on it, so… I guess, like, for everybody, I guess…
503 00:53:47.820 ⇒ 00:53:52.780 Uttam Kumaran: Don’t worry too much, just use it, whatever it is, whatever’s working at any moment, you know?
504 00:53:52.780 ⇒ 00:53:53.289 Samuel Roberts: That’s what I was mentioning.
505 00:53:53.290 ⇒ 00:53:54.269 Uttam Kumaran: That’s right.
506 00:53:54.420 ⇒ 00:53:54.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
507 00:53:54.970 ⇒ 00:53:56.570 Samuel Roberts: Was every… good for everything.
508 00:53:56.660 ⇒ 00:53:57.470 Brylle Girang: Yeah, and also
509 00:53:57.700 ⇒ 00:54:07.110 Brylle Girang: We created a rule that, if possible, it uses the CLI first, and if not, if it doesn’t work, then the MCP will be the fallback.
510 00:54:07.770 ⇒ 00:54:08.480 Samuel Roberts: Alright, cool.
511 00:54:15.800 ⇒ 00:54:16.450 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
512 00:54:16.930 ⇒ 00:54:18.749 Uttam Kumaran: Great. That’s all we had, guys.
513 00:54:21.160 ⇒ 00:54:22.229 Brylle Girang: Alright, I’m good.
514 00:54:22.230 ⇒ 00:54:22.829 Samuel Roberts: Thank you all.
515 00:54:23.130 ⇒ 00:54:24.160 Brylle Girang: Thank you, everyone!
516 00:54:24.870 ⇒ 00:54:25.340 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.