Meeting Title: Element Project Workflow Discussion Date: 2026-03-11 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:05:45.730 ⇒ 00:05:46.730 Brylle Girang: Hello!
2 00:05:49.350 ⇒ 00:05:53.999 Uttam Kumaran: Hey dude, sorry, I just, I have to drive to pick up a friend at the airport.
3 00:05:54.540 ⇒ 00:06:01.129 Uttam Kumaran: But I just wanted to see how the exercise went with the element thing.
4 00:06:02.260 ⇒ 00:06:03.500 Brylle Girang: Alright, sure.
5 00:06:05.340 ⇒ 00:06:07.810 Brylle Girang: Were you able to check the sheet?
6 00:06:12.290 ⇒ 00:06:17.179 Uttam Kumaran: I did briefly before I left, but, like, I didn’t get a chance to read your full note.
7 00:06:18.860 ⇒ 00:06:22.379 Brylle Girang: Yeah, okay, so, basically we…
8 00:06:23.590 ⇒ 00:06:39.889 Brylle Girang: have, like, three main columns now, which points to, like, the actual work that we’re going to do for Element. That’s ingestion in modeling QA phase, or QA. So those are the three main columns, and then one additional column for
9 00:06:40.130 ⇒ 00:06:43.090 Brylle Girang: Like, the dashboard metrics or outcomes.
10 00:06:43.630 ⇒ 00:06:45.310 Brylle Girang: I… I watch.
11 00:06:45.420 ⇒ 00:06:52.710 Brylle Girang: The recording, and it’s… it’s fairly hard, like, to actually, show
12 00:06:52.810 ⇒ 00:06:56.909 Brylle Girang: the things that Shivani wants to show here.
13 00:06:57.680 ⇒ 00:07:03.690 Brylle Girang: Because, again, this is not a Gantt chart, so… .
14 00:07:04.000 ⇒ 00:07:07.149 Uttam Kumaran: No, I agree, but did you… did you, did you watch my meeting with her?
15 00:07:07.750 ⇒ 00:07:08.950 Brylle Girang: Yeah, yeah, I watch it.
16 00:07:08.950 ⇒ 00:07:10.370 Uttam Kumaran: Kinda crazy, dude.
17 00:07:11.810 ⇒ 00:07:12.490 Uttam Kumaran: Right?
18 00:07:13.760 ⇒ 00:07:18.610 Uttam Kumaran: You keep asking me to go meet clients? I’m just telling you.
19 00:07:18.740 ⇒ 00:07:21.570 Uttam Kumaran: Like, when you’re in the hot seat.
20 00:07:22.040 ⇒ 00:07:28.600 Uttam Kumaran: Like, don’t come back to me and say, like, bring me back.
21 00:07:31.630 ⇒ 00:07:32.650 Brylle Girang: It’s crazy.
22 00:07:33.120 ⇒ 00:07:37.350 Brylle Girang: So, so my, my main challenge here right now is that
23 00:07:37.610 ⇒ 00:07:40.240 Brylle Girang: We have an ingestion column.
24 00:07:40.540 ⇒ 00:07:46.020 Brylle Girang: And there are weeks where there’s really nothing in that column.
25 00:07:46.490 ⇒ 00:07:51.850 Brylle Girang: Because we’re maybe working on modeling, QA, or the other dashboards.
26 00:07:52.420 ⇒ 00:07:52.840 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so.
27 00:07:52.840 ⇒ 00:07:53.360 Brylle Girang: I’m really…
28 00:07:53.360 ⇒ 00:07:57.480 Uttam Kumaran: So basically, well, I think, like, two things. One thing that stood clear to me is, like.
29 00:07:57.830 ⇒ 00:08:00.449 Uttam Kumaran: We just need to start using, like.
30 00:08:00.630 ⇒ 00:08:03.879 Uttam Kumaran: We need to start using same terms everywhere, like…
31 00:08:04.340 ⇒ 00:08:07.749 Uttam Kumaran: We need to avoid, like, super consulting jargon.
32 00:08:08.090 ⇒ 00:08:08.460 Brylle Girang: Okay.
33 00:08:08.460 ⇒ 00:08:11.200 Uttam Kumaran: So I think that’s one change I want to make, is like.
34 00:08:11.460 ⇒ 00:08:14.949 Uttam Kumaran: If we put dashboard, let’s put dashboard. If we use model, let’s use model.
35 00:08:15.240 ⇒ 00:08:18.689 Uttam Kumaran: like, I… I don’t… I wanna… I wanna do a lot less of, like.
36 00:08:19.360 ⇒ 00:08:22.769 Uttam Kumaran: whatever the AI says, like, and it overcomplicates.
37 00:08:23.080 ⇒ 00:08:26.689 Uttam Kumaran: The second piece is… is one thing from the,
38 00:08:27.010 ⇒ 00:08:31.989 Uttam Kumaran: the call that was clear is she does, like, having it as, like, ingestion.
39 00:08:32.330 ⇒ 00:08:36.460 Uttam Kumaran: What is the modeling? And then what is the, like, output?
40 00:08:37.030 ⇒ 00:08:45.019 Uttam Kumaran: is, like, the way she wants, which is, like, I think the change you made. But actually, like, just saying, like, okay, we’re getting this data in.
41 00:08:45.250 ⇒ 00:08:48.130 Uttam Kumaran: This data or this decision was made as an input.
42 00:08:48.540 ⇒ 00:08:56.769 Uttam Kumaran: And then, basically, like, what is the middle part? Which is, like, we’re modeling this source, or we’re modeling this combination of sources.
43 00:08:57.530 ⇒ 00:09:01.719 Uttam Kumaran: And then the last piece is, like, a dashboard.
44 00:09:02.010 ⇒ 00:09:04.990 Uttam Kumaran: or an analysis, you know? Yeah.
45 00:09:05.920 ⇒ 00:09:09.709 Uttam Kumaran: So I think that when I briefly glanced at it, it’s close.
46 00:09:10.310 ⇒ 00:09:14.849 Uttam Kumaran: But I think there’s still, like, some slight changes we can make.
47 00:09:16.190 ⇒ 00:09:21.519 Uttam Kumaran: Did that… does that help clear it up, or do you still, like… I can also…
48 00:09:21.770 ⇒ 00:09:25.379 Uttam Kumaran: Take your script and, like, make some tweaks, and then go for it.
49 00:09:26.860 ⇒ 00:09:29.110 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I think it helps.
50 00:09:30.470 ⇒ 00:09:42.690 Brylle Girang: Although, I’m just thinking if, like, making this go through another AI cycle would be helpful, because I think at this point, it needs a human review.
51 00:09:43.660 ⇒ 00:09:48.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, so, like, what’s helpful? Should I…
52 00:09:48.740 ⇒ 00:09:54.429 Uttam Kumaran: take your PR, because I don’t know if I’ll be back on my laptop for another, like, 30-40 minutes, so I don’t know if you’re gonna stay on.
53 00:09:55.180 ⇒ 00:09:55.710 Brylle Girang: -Oh.
54 00:09:55.710 ⇒ 00:09:59.290 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, what’s helpful? Should I…
55 00:09:59.570 ⇒ 00:10:02.370 Uttam Kumaran: Do you have a script that I can rerun?
56 00:10:02.530 ⇒ 00:10:05.499 Uttam Kumaran: Is it, like… Yeah, what do you think?
57 00:10:06.010 ⇒ 00:10:12.759 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I can give you the plan that I made, so that’s the entire plan that helped me pull this off.
58 00:10:13.570 ⇒ 00:10:20.039 Brylle Girang: I… maybe I can just, I don’t know, commit it as a PR, so that you can also have access to that.
59 00:10:20.230 ⇒ 00:10:28.839 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, can you commit a PRR, and then, like, can you also, commit your… the chat history for the chat that you’re… you’re using?
60 00:10:29.340 ⇒ 00:10:36.549 Uttam Kumaran: Because I just wanna… I need to get a version of this out tonight, so I just… I don’t wanna… I just wanna make sure I can recreate it.
61 00:10:36.770 ⇒ 00:10:42.079 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And then, are you having it output as CSV, or it’s writing it directly?
62 00:10:42.410 ⇒ 00:10:43.730 Brylle Girang: It’s writing it directly.
63 00:10:43.940 ⇒ 00:10:44.880 Uttam Kumaran: Nice, okay.
64 00:10:47.230 ⇒ 00:10:48.880 Brylle Girang: Alright, we can do that.
65 00:10:50.080 ⇒ 00:10:52.149 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, dope, sorry if I woke you up.
66 00:10:52.520 ⇒ 00:10:55.599 Brylle Girang: No, no, no, it’s okay. I wasn’t sleeping.
67 00:10:57.480 ⇒ 00:10:57.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
68 00:10:57.990 ⇒ 00:11:01.780 Brylle Girang: finalizing… was finalizing the instantulinear stuff.
69 00:11:03.060 ⇒ 00:11:04.840 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice, okay, okay.
70 00:11:05.190 ⇒ 00:11:12.920 Brylle Girang: Alright, and so… Maybe what time will you continue working? I’m going to see if I’m still awake.
71 00:11:13.020 ⇒ 00:11:13.800 Brylle Girang: By that time.
72 00:11:13.800 ⇒ 00:11:17.029 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna be working probably for the next 2 hours.
73 00:11:17.240 ⇒ 00:11:23.819 Uttam Kumaran: So… Yeah, I mean, I’ll be on.
74 00:11:24.170 ⇒ 00:11:30.199 Uttam Kumaran: But you tell me… Like, I can call you back as soon as I’m back on my laptop.
75 00:11:33.570 ⇒ 00:11:37.830 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I’ll be on my phone here and there, so… Yeah.
76 00:11:38.380 ⇒ 00:11:41.360 Brylle Girang: Okay, gotcha. I’ll just leave you a Slack message here.
77 00:11:41.580 ⇒ 00:11:46.299 Brylle Girang: I can still… Or if I’m still available, okay?
78 00:11:46.550 ⇒ 00:11:55.799 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, or what you can do is, like, send me a Slack note on, like, where you ended, or… actually, this is probably helpful, dude. Maybe this is what we should get in the habit of, is, like.
79 00:11:56.290 ⇒ 00:11:58.210 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe send me a Zoom clip?
80 00:11:58.610 ⇒ 00:12:03.639 Uttam Kumaran: Of, like, where you ended and, like, anything you need decisions on or help with.
81 00:12:04.030 ⇒ 00:12:08.390 Uttam Kumaran: when I finish, I’ll also try to do that. Like, I’ll just tell you what I’m thinking about, or where I ended up.
82 00:12:08.490 ⇒ 00:12:10.629 Uttam Kumaran: That way, when you log on, you can see that.
83 00:12:11.930 ⇒ 00:12:13.280 Brylle Girang: Yep, that’ll work.
84 00:12:14.070 ⇒ 00:12:16.649 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And, look at this,
85 00:12:17.130 ⇒ 00:12:20.400 Uttam Kumaran: Look at this thread I just forwarded to you.
86 00:12:21.230 ⇒ 00:12:23.860 Uttam Kumaran: Look at the reply from Cursor, it’s kinda dope.
87 00:12:25.150 ⇒ 00:12:27.519 Uttam Kumaran: It literally just answered the question.
88 00:12:30.800 ⇒ 00:12:31.970 Brylle Girang: Oh, wow!
89 00:12:36.660 ⇒ 00:12:37.620 Brylle Girang: Don’t do that.
90 00:12:38.450 ⇒ 00:12:39.300 Uttam Kumaran: Isn’t it crazy?
91 00:12:39.590 ⇒ 00:12:42.980 Brylle Girang: It didn’t just spin off a cloud agent and then left it hangs.
92 00:12:42.980 ⇒ 00:12:44.289 Uttam Kumaran: No, it actually…
93 00:12:44.290 ⇒ 00:12:45.099 Brylle Girang: They’re, like, investing.
94 00:12:45.100 ⇒ 00:12:46.750 Uttam Kumaran: and replied to me.
95 00:12:47.500 ⇒ 00:12:48.190 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
96 00:12:48.740 ⇒ 00:12:49.839 Brylle Girang: That’s cool.
97 00:12:51.010 ⇒ 00:12:52.199 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s wild.
98 00:12:54.580 ⇒ 00:12:58.250 Brylle Girang: Was there something in, like, your initial message?
99 00:13:00.790 ⇒ 00:13:02.009 Brylle Girang: Don’t think so.
100 00:13:02.610 ⇒ 00:13:03.970 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think so.
101 00:13:07.140 ⇒ 00:13:11.189 Brylle Girang: This is the first time that I have seen it do this, though. It’s always like…
102 00:13:11.530 ⇒ 00:13:14.190 Brylle Girang: Cloud agent that’s been deployed, etc.
103 00:13:14.950 ⇒ 00:13:16.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
104 00:13:32.730 ⇒ 00:13:36.249 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, dude. Alright, I’ll let you go. Yeah, let me know anything.
105 00:13:36.580 ⇒ 00:13:37.700 Brylle Girang: Alright, take care!
106 00:13:37.930 ⇒ 00:13:39.009 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, thank you, bye.