Meeting Title: Client Project Planning Sync Date: 2026-03-11 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:17:49.740 ⇒ 00:17:50.880 Uttam Kumaran: Hello!
2 00:17:51.240 ⇒ 00:17:53.019 Brylle Girang: Hello! Good morning.
3 00:17:53.490 ⇒ 00:17:57.289 Uttam Kumaran: Good morning, give me, one second, I’m just gonna… just making some coffee.
4 00:17:57.400 ⇒ 00:18:07.029 Uttam Kumaran: I saw your message. I think we could probably, make the… meeting with the CSO,
5 00:18:07.400 ⇒ 00:18:09.120 Uttam Kumaran: Just 45 minutes.
6 00:18:09.550 ⇒ 00:18:13.130 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. I don’t know if we need… the whole time?
7 00:18:14.510 ⇒ 00:18:16.460 Uttam Kumaran: And then I can drive that.
8 00:18:33.770 ⇒ 00:18:38.649 Brylle Girang: I actually sent the invite, like, yesterday, and then I forgot to add you.
9 00:18:39.460 ⇒ 00:18:40.659 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no, you’re good.
10 00:18:40.870 ⇒ 00:18:41.540 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
11 00:18:44.220 ⇒ 00:18:47.389 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.
12 00:18:47.900 ⇒ 00:18:58.990 Uttam Kumaran: And then… can we, can we run the… the new Gantt stuff on, like, element… And…
13 00:19:00.390 ⇒ 00:19:05.650 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if default is using linear, that way we can present it to the team today.
14 00:19:06.220 ⇒ 00:19:09.499 Brylle Girang: Oh, oh, the PR that I submitted isn’t…
15 00:19:09.660 ⇒ 00:19:13.619 Brylle Girang: The actual command yet, so it’s just, like, the plan.
16 00:19:13.880 ⇒ 00:19:18.859 Brylle Girang: Similar to what you did with the CSO SLFE piece plan.
17 00:19:18.860 ⇒ 00:19:19.930 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
18 00:19:19.930 ⇒ 00:19:23.799 Brylle Girang: I just… I just documented it first, I just wanted to get your thoughts before I…
19 00:19:24.060 ⇒ 00:19:26.900 Brylle Girang: create the skills? What do you think?
20 00:19:30.090 ⇒ 00:19:33.319 Brylle Girang: So, in the, in the plan file.
21 00:19:33.550 ⇒ 00:19:41.529 Brylle Girang: I just added there the goals, the mappings, like, how would… The linear projects look.
22 00:19:42.000 ⇒ 00:19:43.960 Brylle Girang: Considering our delivery.
23 00:19:43.960 ⇒ 00:19:47.220 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, and this includes a data platform backfill stuff, right?
24 00:19:47.570 ⇒ 00:19:48.160 Brylle Girang: Yep.
25 00:19:50.820 ⇒ 00:19:53.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, dude, I’m good with it if you are.
26 00:19:54.310 ⇒ 00:19:56.349 Brylle Girang: Okay, do you want us to…
27 00:19:56.500 ⇒ 00:19:59.709 Brylle Girang: Maybe share this with the CSOs and SLs too later?
28 00:20:00.940 ⇒ 00:20:06.790 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, my goal is, like, if we can… if we can run it on a… on a client.
29 00:20:06.960 ⇒ 00:20:12.410 Uttam Kumaran: If we can run it on one of our clients, then we can, show them.
30 00:20:12.860 ⇒ 00:20:15.040 Uttam Kumaran: What it looks like, for it to be in linear?
31 00:20:15.810 ⇒ 00:20:20.940 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if everybody’s gonna have time until next week to sort of update all their stuff, but let’s see.
32 00:20:21.430 ⇒ 00:20:22.060 Brylle Girang: Okay.
33 00:20:22.500 ⇒ 00:20:23.380 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
34 00:20:26.730 ⇒ 00:20:39.349 Brylle Girang: Okay, so I’m going to… well, I got your goal signal, I’m going to move forward with this plan, and then on tomorrow’s meeting, I can share how it looks like, like, from kickoff to update.
35 00:20:39.540 ⇒ 00:20:40.499 Brylle Girang: Only 3 classes.
36 00:20:40.500 ⇒ 00:20:41.340 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
37 00:20:41.830 ⇒ 00:20:46.779 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, did we, can we show today our,
38 00:20:47.870 ⇒ 00:20:51.580 Uttam Kumaran: Can we show today, what’s it called?
39 00:20:55.190 ⇒ 00:20:58.329 Uttam Kumaran: The data platform updates?
40 00:20:58.620 ⇒ 00:20:59.750 Brylle Girang: Oh yeah, sure.
41 00:20:59.970 ⇒ 00:21:03.090 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, what’s a good client that we can show that for?
42 00:21:06.090 ⇒ 00:21:11.060 Brylle Girang: Well, element is in a pristine condition. We have already updated default.
43 00:21:11.600 ⇒ 00:21:12.940 Brylle Girang: Let me check.
44 00:21:12.940 ⇒ 00:21:18.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let’s, let’s show, let’s show, yeah, maybe let’s… Check Magic Spoon.
45 00:21:19.060 ⇒ 00:21:22.030 Uttam Kumaran: And then… How long does it take to run?
46 00:21:25.300 ⇒ 00:21:32.620 Brylle Girang: Well, the kickoff takes more time, but the updates should take maybe 15 minutes.
47 00:21:33.430 ⇒ 00:21:38.120 Brylle Girang: The problem right now is that that estimate was based on our
48 00:21:38.390 ⇒ 00:21:41.370 Brylle Girang: A premium model, and not a premium model, but…
49 00:21:42.200 ⇒ 00:21:46.260 Brylle Girang: Are you seeing just not yet? So it’s going to be slower.
50 00:21:46.690 ⇒ 00:21:48.060 Brylle Girang: This time around.
51 00:21:53.210 ⇒ 00:21:54.360 Brylle Girang: Explorers.
52 00:22:09.460 ⇒ 00:22:10.230 Brylle Girang: Oh.
53 00:22:11.330 ⇒ 00:22:14.759 Brylle Girang: There’s no magic spoon data platform documentation, I think.
54 00:22:25.580 ⇒ 00:22:26.820 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, you might be right.
55 00:22:30.730 ⇒ 00:22:31.340 Brylle Girang: Dare.
56 00:22:31.340 ⇒ 00:22:33.339 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so maybe worth, like, creating.
57 00:22:33.960 ⇒ 00:22:36.719 Brylle Girang: Yeah, the kickoff skill would be perfect.
58 00:22:37.210 ⇒ 00:22:42.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think what I can do is, like, so maybe let’s create a brief agenda for this meeting.
59 00:22:46.640 ⇒ 00:22:49.429 Uttam Kumaran: I’m just gonna use this delivery meeting running notes.
60 00:22:49.760 ⇒ 00:22:50.390 Brylle Girang: Okay.
61 00:22:58.570 ⇒ 00:23:04.700 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want… do you mind updating, this top part.
62 00:23:08.200 ⇒ 00:23:12.690 Uttam Kumaran: I guess I don’t care much about, like, the MRRs, just, like, the clients.
63 00:23:13.350 ⇒ 00:23:18.640 Uttam Kumaran: I guess this is, churned, this is churned.
64 00:23:18.930 ⇒ 00:23:22.660 Uttam Kumaran: This is… No expired…
65 00:23:45.460 ⇒ 00:23:47.949 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t really know if these are…
66 00:23:48.790 ⇒ 00:23:51.639 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know if these are linked to the proper notion.
67 00:23:51.890 ⇒ 00:23:55.570 Uttam Kumaran: That’s okay, I just want to make sure we see all our clients in this view.
68 00:24:02.220 ⇒ 00:24:04.930 Brylle Girang: Notion’s bugging out on my end, just a moment.
69 00:24:05.580 ⇒ 00:24:06.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
70 00:24:38.380 ⇒ 00:24:40.420 Brylle Girang: Wow, it’s not working.
71 00:24:41.200 ⇒ 00:24:42.309 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, me too.
72 00:24:45.640 ⇒ 00:24:49.219 Uttam Kumaran: Some type of weird situation, I don’t know, it’s not working for me either.
73 00:24:49.220 ⇒ 00:24:55.620 Brylle Girang: Cloudflare has a scheduled maintenance, so… Maybe that…
74 00:24:55.620 ⇒ 00:24:56.300 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really?
75 00:24:56.840 ⇒ 00:24:57.800 Brylle Girang: Yeah, maybe it’s affected.
76 00:24:57.800 ⇒ 00:24:58.510 Uttam Kumaran: Goodbye.
77 00:27:46.680 ⇒ 00:27:48.730 Brylle Girang: Get access to page. Crap.
78 00:27:51.480 ⇒ 00:27:55.369 Brylle Girang: I can’t access this page. It’s, like, eternally loading for me.
79 00:27:56.620 ⇒ 00:27:59.700 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really? Okay. Maybe I’ll try opening in your browser? I don’t know.
80 00:28:00.510 ⇒ 00:28:06.319 Brylle Girang: Yeah, it is… I am in my browser, actually trying to use Safari to…
81 00:28:20.980 ⇒ 00:28:24.749 Brylle Girang: I think it’s because of the first database, it’s super large.
82 00:29:21.220 ⇒ 00:29:23.119 Uttam Kumaran: Are you using any automations?
83 00:29:25.220 ⇒ 00:29:26.080 Brylle Girang: Or…
84 00:29:26.860 ⇒ 00:29:28.740 Uttam Kumaran: Like, using cursor automations?
85 00:29:29.910 ⇒ 00:29:31.590 Brylle Girang: No, no, no, of course, it’s not running.
86 00:29:32.700 ⇒ 00:29:36.549 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, did you see that cursor started to do automations?
87 00:29:40.180 ⇒ 00:29:42.390 Brylle Girang: Oh, okay, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah.
88 00:29:42.960 ⇒ 00:29:53.360 Brylle Girang: Not yet. So, I’m trying to figure out how to actually have it use the skills and MCPs. It’s not currently possible when it’s built in.
89 00:29:53.750 ⇒ 00:29:56.599 Brylle Girang: So, unless the MCP is actually…
90 00:29:57.220 ⇒ 00:30:04.320 Brylle Girang: like, installed, unless Cursor enables the MCPs outside the pre-installed MCPs.
91 00:30:04.610 ⇒ 00:30:06.490 Brylle Girang: It’s not… Working.
92 00:30:06.490 ⇒ 00:30:07.060 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
93 00:30:08.280 ⇒ 00:30:09.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
94 00:30:09.340 ⇒ 00:30:11.260 Uttam Kumaran: It’s worth talking to Sam about it.
95 00:30:12.330 ⇒ 00:30:12.950 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
96 00:30:14.470 ⇒ 00:30:16.910 Brylle Girang: So it’s like a half-baked feature.
97 00:30:17.370 ⇒ 00:30:18.340 Brylle Girang: For now.
98 00:30:19.910 ⇒ 00:30:24.670 Uttam Kumaran: So we have the linear auto-labeler… what are… so what is the skill you just shared with me?
99 00:30:25.530 ⇒ 00:30:26.680 Brylle Girang: So…
100 00:30:26.680 ⇒ 00:30:28.970 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, it was the Instagant, yeah.
101 00:30:29.350 ⇒ 00:30:29.900 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
102 00:30:30.200 ⇒ 00:30:33.269 Brylle Girang: And then the data platform.o, it’s there.
103 00:30:33.510 ⇒ 00:30:39.130 Brylle Girang: Maybe we all… the clientele, I think it needs a lot of… revisions.
104 00:30:39.790 ⇒ 00:30:42.740 Brylle Girang: But it’s… already in draft.
105 00:30:43.800 ⇒ 00:30:48.140 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, client health, I’m gonna have some comments on… think about it a little bit more.
106 00:30:54.750 ⇒ 00:31:03.119 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I guess my problem there is that, there are lots of, like, watch and address, and it’s too much info with little to no cost.
107 00:31:03.120 ⇒ 00:31:08.399 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll… I think it’s… I think we have to think… another way to think about it is, who’s the audience?
108 00:31:09.090 ⇒ 00:31:14.690 Uttam Kumaran: So you should think about, like, if the audience is me versus you versus…
109 00:31:15.090 ⇒ 00:31:18.249 Uttam Kumaran: A CSO versus an SL versus a team member.
110 00:31:19.860 ⇒ 00:31:24.309 Uttam Kumaran: Those four… those five stakeholders care about different things, right?
111 00:31:25.700 ⇒ 00:31:30.160 Uttam Kumaran: But I think start… I think starting with me and the CSO is a good place to start.
112 00:31:30.900 ⇒ 00:31:36.720 Uttam Kumaran: But I can leave some feedback on, like, what I’m… what more I’m looking for, right? But… Yeah.
113 00:31:37.330 ⇒ 00:31:37.980 Brylle Girang: Okay.
114 00:31:39.810 ⇒ 00:31:46.520 Uttam Kumaran: And then I also… I think it’s probably… I think it’s good that we… is there a risks, like, skill, or no, nothing yet?
115 00:31:47.170 ⇒ 00:31:52.800 Brylle Girang: It was a, I was able to create that one as part of, like, the client health.
116 00:31:53.520 ⇒ 00:31:54.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, okay, okay.
117 00:31:54.990 ⇒ 00:32:01.509 Brylle Girang: So, instead… instead of, like, creating one client flow command, I created… Why clients over the…
118 00:32:01.510 ⇒ 00:32:01.890 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
119 00:32:01.890 ⇒ 00:32:04.619 Brylle Girang: I’m trying to, like, create bite-sized pieces now, so that.
120 00:32:04.620 ⇒ 00:32:06.399 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, perfect, perfect.
121 00:32:20.480 ⇒ 00:32:22.850 Brylle Girang: Oh my gosh, it’s not working.
122 00:35:50.580 ⇒ 00:35:55.460 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, dude, I just need to not be able to sleep, like, there’s so much to do.
123 00:35:57.750 ⇒ 00:35:58.919 Uttam Kumaran: I wish I could stay.
124 00:35:59.750 ⇒ 00:36:04.050 Uttam Kumaran: How did you start… when did you transition to doing, like, reverse schedule? Like…
125 00:36:05.380 ⇒ 00:36:15.540 Brylle Girang: like, 2 years ago, well, my previous… in my previous job, it was really erratic. There are weeks where I’m working night shift, there are weeks where I’m working morning shift.
126 00:36:15.940 ⇒ 00:36:18.880 Brylle Girang: So, my body clock is totally off.
127 00:36:20.450 ⇒ 00:36:21.400 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really?
128 00:36:21.400 ⇒ 00:36:25.669 Brylle Girang: I wish I could stay with you, like, past 6pm, but…
129 00:36:25.670 ⇒ 00:36:28.819 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, no, no, dude, no, don’t worry about that.
130 00:36:29.660 ⇒ 00:36:35.179 Brylle Girang: I’m trying to, like, catch up during the morning instead, so I’m locking in earlier.
131 00:36:35.180 ⇒ 00:36:38.640 Uttam Kumaran: No, that’s good, that’s good. That’s what I think, like, let me know…
132 00:36:39.320 ⇒ 00:36:45.260 Uttam Kumaran: Give me… let me help you figure out what’s best to work on while, like, everybody’s still asleep, you know?
133 00:36:46.470 ⇒ 00:36:53.149 Brylle Girang: Yeah, in the previous weeks, I was, like, making sure that the time is spent on cleaning up everything.
134 00:36:53.540 ⇒ 00:37:01.190 Brylle Girang: So, when people log in, linear is clear, the Gantt is clear, But… Starting this week.
135 00:37:02.270 ⇒ 00:37:03.510 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
136 00:37:06.090 ⇒ 00:37:09.279 Brylle Girang: Trying to make sense of how to do that, but yeah.
137 00:37:11.070 ⇒ 00:37:17.009 Brylle Girang: Like, are… how many hours are you actually working? 24 hours?
138 00:37:18.030 ⇒ 00:37:22.540 Uttam Kumaran: Oh man, it’s not a good… I don’t know, I’m gonna… how many hours am I working?
139 00:37:24.160 ⇒ 00:37:32.299 Uttam Kumaran: I probably work… I mean, it just sort of depends, like, dude, you should… last quarter was really bad, this quarter is getting a little bit better.
140 00:37:33.610 ⇒ 00:37:37.739 Uttam Kumaran: Like, Kayla’s helping a lot, Rico’s helping a lot, you’re helping a lot.
141 00:37:38.380 ⇒ 00:37:41.539 Uttam Kumaran: But we still have a ways to go.
142 00:37:42.300 ⇒ 00:37:50.469 Uttam Kumaran: So, I probably work… I mean, I… like, I… this is… my problem is I don’t take any breaks.
143 00:37:50.810 ⇒ 00:37:55.129 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I don’t… I don’t take any breaks during the day. If I’m… if I’m going…
144 00:37:55.290 ⇒ 00:37:58.830 Uttam Kumaran: somewhere, like, in the car, I call someone.
145 00:37:59.140 ⇒ 00:37:59.830 Brylle Girang: Yeah.
146 00:37:59.830 ⇒ 00:38:04.639 Uttam Kumaran: I’m usually in still, like, 4 hours of meetings a day.
147 00:38:04.920 ⇒ 00:38:06.969 Uttam Kumaran: The meetings is the one that’s, like.
148 00:38:07.800 ⇒ 00:38:12.720 Uttam Kumaran: really, really the worst, because I can’t be in two meetings at a time.
149 00:38:12.980 ⇒ 00:38:16.160 Uttam Kumaran: But if I’m working, I can work on 3 or 4 things at a time.
150 00:38:17.490 ⇒ 00:38:21.619 Brylle Girang: Yeah. So, like, I’m really good at… I’m good at multitasking, I just…
151 00:38:21.960 ⇒ 00:38:23.940 Uttam Kumaran: I’m in a meeting, it’s very hard.
152 00:38:25.760 ⇒ 00:38:27.250 Uttam Kumaran: Obviously, but…
153 00:38:29.950 ⇒ 00:38:32.830 Brylle Girang: Yeah, I’m always seeing your calendar, and wow.
154 00:38:34.650 ⇒ 00:38:36.039 Uttam Kumaran: One day it’ll get better.
155 00:38:39.520 ⇒ 00:38:40.979 Brylle Girang: Let’s work through that.
156 00:38:41.420 ⇒ 00:38:44.850 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, please. I need to start going to the gym again.
157 00:38:44.940 ⇒ 00:38:54.990 Brylle Girang: I just started going to the gym, like, October, but actually committed to it this January.
158 00:38:55.360 ⇒ 00:38:56.220 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
159 00:39:01.140 ⇒ 00:39:02.400 Uttam Kumaran: That’s great, dude.
160 00:39:02.850 ⇒ 00:39:05.230 Brylle Girang: Yeah, it helps a lot.
161 00:39:06.030 ⇒ 00:39:13.620 Brylle Girang: I even… one time, I brought my, like, laptop to the gym and then started vibe coding in between sets.
162 00:39:13.620 ⇒ 00:39:14.600 Uttam Kumaran: Good.
163 00:39:17.130 ⇒ 00:39:18.150 Uttam Kumaran: That’s funny.
164 00:39:31.380 ⇒ 00:39:32.020 Brylle Girang: I mean…
165 00:39:57.500 ⇒ 00:40:01.069 Brylle Girang: So I saw the new document that you created.
166 00:40:03.170 ⇒ 00:40:05.039 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, everything is in playbooks.
167 00:40:10.210 ⇒ 00:40:18.640 Brylle Girang: I mean, these new collections of skills… With the evidence bases.
168 00:40:19.230 ⇒ 00:40:20.390 Brylle Girang: And that stuff.
169 00:40:20.900 ⇒ 00:40:29.670 Brylle Girang: So, I like this better, I think this is… Clearer compared to… The initial task log.
170 00:40:32.440 ⇒ 00:40:33.180 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
171 00:40:52.830 ⇒ 00:40:56.459 Brylle Girang: By the way, you… I think you mentioned Y Combinator last time.
172 00:40:56.880 ⇒ 00:41:02.539 Brylle Girang: Like, is it… Is it one of our goals to get funded by them?
173 00:41:04.110 ⇒ 00:41:06.040 Uttam Kumaran: Not really, like…
174 00:41:06.620 ⇒ 00:41:12.279 Uttam Kumaran: we… I think we could… I mean, I’m not… I guess two things. One is, like, I have actually a lot of…
175 00:41:12.550 ⇒ 00:41:19.330 Uttam Kumaran: people I know that are in Y Combinator, It’s actually not that… like, helpful.
176 00:41:19.610 ⇒ 00:41:24.620 Uttam Kumaran: As you think. It’s very, very famous, but it’s, it’s kind of a huge distraction.
177 00:41:25.150 ⇒ 00:41:31.930 Uttam Kumaran: Second is, like, I think… I mean, I don’t know. I feel like if we wanted to raise money, I think we can go raise more money elsewhere.
178 00:41:32.790 ⇒ 00:41:38.449 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not our initial… the primary goal right now is just to hit our revenue, continue to hit our revenue targets, you know?
179 00:41:38.960 ⇒ 00:41:39.519 Brylle Girang: Thank you.
180 00:41:41.510 ⇒ 00:41:43.110 Uttam Kumaran: But that’s a good question.
181 00:41:51.600 ⇒ 00:41:56.960 Uttam Kumaran: So, do we wanna… do you have any other… any risks on your side that you wanna talk about today?
182 00:41:57.240 ⇒ 00:42:01.160 Uttam Kumaran: So I would like to talk about, like, default meeting later.
183 00:42:01.590 ⇒ 00:42:04.770 Uttam Kumaran: I’d like to hear about the Eden ELP meeting.
184 00:42:06.130 ⇒ 00:42:08.520 Brylle Girang: Eden OS for remote.
185 00:42:09.870 ⇒ 00:42:11.860 Brylle Girang: I don’t see any movement there.
186 00:42:13.740 ⇒ 00:42:17.699 Brylle Girang: I don’t even know, like, the status, because Eden is also not
187 00:42:18.010 ⇒ 00:42:21.150 Brylle Girang: Reaching out to us. They didn’t attend the meeting last week.
188 00:42:26.100 ⇒ 00:42:27.600 Brylle Girang: Default, you done.
189 00:46:00.440 ⇒ 00:46:03.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, I’m gonna get a coffee. Anything else? Think about it.
190 00:46:04.790 ⇒ 00:46:11.310 Brylle Girang: Yeah, just thinking, I’ll just add it here. Do you want us to start with, like, the wrist and the delivery notes?
191 00:46:11.310 ⇒ 00:46:16.750 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s… let’s, yeah, let’s send this to everybody now, they can see it for 10 minutes.
192 00:46:17.580 ⇒ 00:46:18.200 Brylle Girang: Okay.
193 00:46:22.130 ⇒ 00:46:25.580 Brylle Girang: Oh, sorry, again? We’re going to send… what?
194 00:46:25.820 ⇒ 00:46:28.900 Uttam Kumaran: Can you send this, this notion to everybody in that channel?
195 00:46:28.900 ⇒ 00:46:29.530 Brylle Girang: Okay.
196 00:46:29.900 ⇒ 00:46:30.690 Brylle Girang: Gotcha.
197 00:46:31.300 ⇒ 00:46:36.519 Uttam Kumaran: And then my other question is, I think, can we… can you put a bullet that we should talk about,
198 00:46:37.700 ⇒ 00:46:44.399 Uttam Kumaran: Need to talk about… If client teams are gonna continue to run stand-ups, and who’s gonna run it?
199 00:46:44.980 ⇒ 00:46:45.610 Brylle Girang: Okay.
200 00:48:03.140 ⇒ 00:48:04.790 Uttam Kumaran: This’ll be a good meeting, I think.
201 00:48:07.260 ⇒ 00:48:10.350 Brylle Girang: Will be a lot better than… The stand-ups.
202 00:48:10.350 ⇒ 00:48:18.499 Uttam Kumaran: I know. I saw your message. I was originally gonna say, like, you’re being too mean, but who cares, whatever.
203 00:48:19.080 ⇒ 00:48:23.149 Uttam Kumaran: At least someone else has some opinions around here.
204 00:48:27.600 ⇒ 00:48:32.260 Brylle Girang: Well, when you, when you, when you talk about it, they’re actually thinking, but
205 00:48:32.430 ⇒ 00:48:35.110 Brylle Girang: It gets the point across, though I think that’s…
206 00:48:35.110 ⇒ 00:48:39.319 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s okay, I think it’s okay. Like, I want people to feel…
207 00:48:39.500 ⇒ 00:48:43.460 Uttam Kumaran: People… I want people to feel angry sometimes, and emotional.
208 00:48:45.440 ⇒ 00:48:45.890 Brylle Girang: Exactly.
209 00:48:45.890 ⇒ 00:48:50.779 Uttam Kumaran: You see me talk, all I am is emotional about this.
210 00:48:52.950 ⇒ 00:48:57.540 Brylle Girang: Especially when it’s the… it’s the things that matter, right? Not being able.
211 00:48:57.540 ⇒ 00:48:59.250 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. This is a problem.
212 00:49:00.130 ⇒ 00:49:06.160 Uttam Kumaran: I’m trying… I’m trying my best to get everybody… stable place.
213 00:49:06.390 ⇒ 00:49:13.150 Uttam Kumaran: And if people just tell me where they need help, life could be way easier, right? And that’s it. That’s all I’m asking for.
214 00:49:22.140 ⇒ 00:49:26.540 Brylle Girang: You’re actually super calm. I watched and I read the…
215 00:49:26.920 ⇒ 00:49:30.370 Brylle Girang: the meeting regarding Eden, when things blew up.
216 00:49:33.340 ⇒ 00:49:34.900 Uttam Kumaran: What’d you think?
217 00:49:34.900 ⇒ 00:49:37.419 Brylle Girang: how you do it. I don’t know how you do it.
218 00:49:37.570 ⇒ 00:49:38.510 Brylle Girang: But it’s good to…
219 00:49:38.510 ⇒ 00:49:39.200 Uttam Kumaran: beans.
220 00:49:39.500 ⇒ 00:49:43.780 Brylle Girang: Like… How’d I call this?
221 00:49:45.230 ⇒ 00:49:52.039 Brylle Girang: Well, I guess it’s just the culture, like, the culture that you have built here and the team has built here made it really comfortable.
222 00:49:52.190 ⇒ 00:49:53.189 Brylle Girang: For us to talk about.
223 00:49:53.190 ⇒ 00:49:54.849 Uttam Kumaran: You can tell I’m serious.
224 00:49:55.040 ⇒ 00:50:01.349 Uttam Kumaran: I’m… it’s serious, but it’s not mean. Like, I’m not trying to, like… really trying not to…
225 00:50:02.610 ⇒ 00:50:06.839 Uttam Kumaran: get angry at… I mean, you try to get angry at a problem, right?
226 00:50:07.070 ⇒ 00:50:08.160 Brylle Girang: Not the person.
227 00:50:08.940 ⇒ 00:50:09.800 Uttam Kumaran: the person.
228 00:50:10.170 ⇒ 00:50:12.370 Brylle Girang: Hate to sin, love the sinner.
229 00:50:13.600 ⇒ 00:50:14.450 Uttam Kumaran: What is that?
230 00:50:14.930 ⇒ 00:50:17.469 Brylle Girang: Hate the scene, love the scener.
231 00:50:18.530 ⇒ 00:50:19.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
232 00:50:20.330 ⇒ 00:50:21.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
233 00:50:22.010 ⇒ 00:50:23.030 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.
234 00:50:23.270 ⇒ 00:50:25.600 Uttam Kumaran: It’s very tough, though. Very tough.
235 00:50:26.100 ⇒ 00:50:29.719 Uttam Kumaran: But again, like, This is not life or death.
236 00:50:30.340 ⇒ 00:50:34.859 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe not… maybe for me, but not for everybody. So, it’s okay.
237 00:50:37.300 ⇒ 00:50:38.390 Uttam Kumaran: It’s okay.
238 00:50:38.710 ⇒ 00:50:42.940 Brylle Girang: Yeah, as long as, you know, we try to make things better, then that’s the point.
239 00:50:42.940 ⇒ 00:50:50.600 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, we’re driving very, very hard, you know, and no one can say… Can’t say really otherwise, so…
240 00:50:50.600 ⇒ 00:50:51.610 Brylle Girang: Yeah,
241 00:50:52.540 ⇒ 00:50:55.670 Brylle Girang: Do you want us to jump over to the… Oh, they’re making the world?
242 00:50:55.670 ⇒ 00:50:56.430 Uttam Kumaran: That’s shots.
243 00:50:56.430 ⇒ 00:50:57.720 Brylle Girang: Okay. Bye-bye.