Meeting Title: Phoenix Project Weekly Sync Date: 2026-03-04 Meeting participants: Greg Stoutenburg, Nandika Jhunjhunwala
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1 00:01:16.720 ⇒ 00:01:18.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, Nandika, how’s it going?
2 00:01:21.210 ⇒ 00:01:22.340 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Hello?
3 00:01:23.270 ⇒ 00:01:23.920 Greg Stoutenburg: A.
4 00:01:24.610 ⇒ 00:01:25.800 Greg Stoutenburg: How are you today?
5 00:01:25.800 ⇒ 00:01:26.900 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Good, how are you?
6 00:01:27.970 ⇒ 00:01:29.680 Greg Stoutenburg: Good. Bye.
7 00:01:29.890 ⇒ 00:01:35.169 Greg Stoutenburg: Last workday this week, heading off for Michigan tomorrow, see my mom for her birthday weekend.
8 00:01:35.400 ⇒ 00:01:37.169 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Amazing, have fun, yeah.
9 00:01:37.170 ⇒ 00:01:40.219 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, yeah. Go eat all that Detroit food.
10 00:01:40.730 ⇒ 00:01:45.180 Greg Stoutenburg: Tour all the stuff around where I grew up.
11 00:01:45.510 ⇒ 00:01:46.010 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Nice!
12 00:01:46.010 ⇒ 00:01:47.399 Greg Stoutenburg: Same thing every time.
13 00:01:48.910 ⇒ 00:01:52.610 Greg Stoutenburg: Oh, where’d it go? I lost my, what’s my head.
14 00:01:52.850 ⇒ 00:02:10.650 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, so, you know, we… I think we’re kind of settled… I think we’ve sort of settled into a pace here, where, you know, once or twice a week, we get together, see what updates have been made in Phoenix, map out workflows, instrument the next thing, and… and so on. So,
15 00:02:11.050 ⇒ 00:02:23.800 Greg Stoutenburg: Have you and Caitlin caught up about onboarding at all? I don’t know if there’s been any work done since that. She and I talked, I think, last Thursday, about some different strategies that might be taken there. I don’t know if there may have been decisions or anything like that.
16 00:02:24.810 ⇒ 00:02:28.789 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, we caught up yesterday about onboarding, and
17 00:02:29.230 ⇒ 00:02:32.529 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: I saw the Figma screens, you know.
18 00:02:32.690 ⇒ 00:02:44.050 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: I think she made the call to connect her CRMs, make the user connect the CRM first, and then if they don’t, then they get into, like, a sandbox door of default, and then…
19 00:02:44.140 ⇒ 00:02:53.710 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: it, like, after, like, they’re asked to connect the CRM, if they’re not the admin on the CRM, they’re asked to invite their CRM admin to the default platform.
20 00:02:53.760 ⇒ 00:03:08.299 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: And then that admin will pick it up from, like, where the other user left it off from, and connect CRM, and then I think it’s, like, then they’re directed to, like, tables, and then the CRU opens up.
21 00:03:08.360 ⇒ 00:03:15.300 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: So, I don’t think anything’s final yet, but I think she’s leaning towards that workflow, because I’m sure she must have mentioned to you that
22 00:03:15.520 ⇒ 00:03:19.999 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: default chat OS isn’t gonna be live anytime soon.
23 00:03:20.000 ⇒ 00:03:20.450 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
24 00:03:20.450 ⇒ 00:03:22.599 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: So… yeah.
25 00:03:22.770 ⇒ 00:03:26.869 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay. Cool. Okay, that sounds good. That sounds like a good direction.
26 00:03:27.040 ⇒ 00:03:29.160 Greg Stoutenburg: So, fantastic.
27 00:03:29.460 ⇒ 00:03:35.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Has anything else shipped in the last… since the last time that we looked at this?
28 00:03:35.300 ⇒ 00:03:49.669 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: So not yet, that’s the other update for you. We caught up… I am very heavily involved in growth stuff, like, the first half of it, so I haven’t gotten around to any further instrumentation.
29 00:03:49.760 ⇒ 00:04:10.520 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: But the plan for me is, like, on Thursday and Friday, work on, like, instrumenting queues. I actually have it done, I just haven’t pushed a GitHub PR yet, and then I looked into the user properties, and, like, whatever properties that I currently have access to now, I will also instrument them. So, that should be live in our…
30 00:04:10.520 ⇒ 00:04:12.429 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Prod instance, like, end of the week.
31 00:04:12.790 ⇒ 00:04:14.940 Greg Stoutenburg: Sure, end of the week. Okay, cool. That sounds good.
32 00:04:16.029 ⇒ 00:04:20.839 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright, and… alright, nothing else has gone into the staging environment, then?
33 00:04:21.779 ⇒ 00:04:31.119 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: No, nothing else. Okay. Yeah, sorry. Yeah. I… I haven’t checked in a hot minute.
34 00:04:32.040 ⇒ 00:04:36.409 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: I think, like, because we’ve pushed our Phoenix launch, like, we’re…
35 00:04:36.520 ⇒ 00:04:48.179 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: very heavily pivoting back into, like, selling the old product as much as we can before we start with a new product. So, like, it’s been, like, a lot of growth-focused stuff for me.
36 00:04:48.180 ⇒ 00:04:48.730 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
37 00:04:48.730 ⇒ 00:04:56.080 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: So I haven’t had any time to spare for analytics as much, but I will check.
38 00:04:56.370 ⇒ 00:05:02.819 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: on Rochelle, and… You, you have the… you have the virtual instance access to it, right?
39 00:05:03.030 ⇒ 00:05:06.129 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep, I’m in it right now. I don’t see anything that looks different. I mean, it looks like.
40 00:05:06.130 ⇒ 00:05:06.480 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: I’m changing.
41 00:05:06.480 ⇒ 00:05:09.580 Greg Stoutenburg: the data pipeline icon. Yeah.
42 00:05:09.580 ⇒ 00:05:10.150 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah.
43 00:05:10.310 ⇒ 00:05:14.459 Greg Stoutenburg: Neat looking. But I don’t see anything else that’s actually different.
44 00:05:14.460 ⇒ 00:05:15.120 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yes.
45 00:05:15.820 ⇒ 00:05:17.409 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, it looks the same to me.
46 00:05:19.730 ⇒ 00:05:24.059 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, I will open the prod instance and see.
47 00:05:24.380 ⇒ 00:05:25.850 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Okay.
48 00:05:27.370 ⇒ 00:05:32.609 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: If anything has changed, I think unlikely.
49 00:05:33.200 ⇒ 00:05:33.650 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
50 00:05:33.650 ⇒ 00:05:38.089 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: more on the back-end stuff and figuring out some kinks, as far as I know.
51 00:05:38.310 ⇒ 00:05:47.420 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, it’s pretty much the same. So, after those updates, like, end of this week, I should be pretty much caught up on instrumentation.
52 00:05:47.710 ⇒ 00:05:49.870 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah.
53 00:05:50.180 ⇒ 00:05:50.750 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
54 00:05:51.020 ⇒ 00:05:52.579 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright.
55 00:05:53.130 ⇒ 00:05:55.020 Greg Stoutenburg: Also, just trying to think through…
56 00:05:55.200 ⇒ 00:06:04.460 Greg Stoutenburg: what else that’s been instrumented. I guess we can look at your implementation list here, and, think about what can go into post hoc.
57 00:06:05.140 ⇒ 00:06:06.250 Greg Stoutenburg: Already.
58 00:06:06.750 ⇒ 00:06:12.830 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, maybe some of the tables actions. That would be… that would be a nice…
59 00:06:13.190 ⇒ 00:06:14.909 Greg Stoutenburg: Coherent one to take on.
60 00:06:15.090 ⇒ 00:06:15.460 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah.
61 00:06:15.460 ⇒ 00:06:19.660 Greg Stoutenburg: Just to make sure that we see what we’re expecting to see.
62 00:06:21.230 ⇒ 00:06:29.320 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, definitely. I’ve been keeping an eye on, like, because now it’s live and fraud, so every time anybody interacts with…
63 00:06:29.320 ⇒ 00:06:29.990 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
64 00:06:30.160 ⇒ 00:06:40.090 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: the instance, like, I see a bunch of events created by other people, so that’s, like, definitely nice to see that the events are sort of working as we’re expecting them to.
65 00:06:40.110 ⇒ 00:06:45.049 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, cool. So that’s been, like, good validation that they were instrumented correctly.
66 00:06:45.050 ⇒ 00:06:45.850 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah.
67 00:06:45.850 ⇒ 00:06:46.930 Greg Stoutenburg: Good, good, good.
68 00:06:47.060 ⇒ 00:06:54.619 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, excellent. Alright, yeah, I’ll, I’ll build something that shows some engagement with the… with the tables feature.
69 00:06:54.620 ⇒ 00:07:10.209 Greg Stoutenburg: And we can… we can use that sort of as a test case for how we want to structure and think about the way that we measure engagement. It doesn’t necessarily need to lead to conversions or anything else, but just to look at, like, are people using the feature, since we know that that’s always, you know, the first sign of
70 00:07:10.270 ⇒ 00:07:15.590 Greg Stoutenburg: Someone getting involved in the app in a way that’s gonna lead to engagement and retention.
71 00:07:15.820 ⇒ 00:07:18.710 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, I can do that.
72 00:07:18.980 ⇒ 00:07:21.109 Greg Stoutenburg: And… something else…
73 00:07:21.580 ⇒ 00:07:26.039 Greg Stoutenburg: I was thinking about… I don’t think that we’ve talked about this yet. Have we talked about how we’ve been using Segment?
74 00:07:26.970 ⇒ 00:07:27.900 Greg Stoutenburg: It defaults.
75 00:07:27.900 ⇒ 00:07:39.690 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: We did talk about it. I haven’t had a chance to have that conversation yet. Okay. I know, I think you mentioned that, you know, we can port over some data from post hoc, or to post hoc. Yeah.
76 00:07:39.690 ⇒ 00:07:49.550 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, I think one of our, like, engineers that was… that’s focused on data, they’re coming back soon, so once they’re back, like, I think they would have more context there, and…
77 00:07:49.550 ⇒ 00:07:50.130 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay.
78 00:07:50.130 ⇒ 00:07:52.999 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Thank you for reminding me, that kind of slipped my mind, so I will try…
79 00:07:53.000 ⇒ 00:08:02.509 Greg Stoutenburg: Okay, yeah, no problem. Yeah, no, cool. And really just, like, not because we have to do anything necessarily, but just looking at the list of connectors
80 00:08:02.750 ⇒ 00:08:12.889 Greg Stoutenburg: Yes. Something that we might think about now is, like, is there anything that we want to make sure that we are sending to PostHog, or is there anything that we want to make sure to send from PostHog?
81 00:08:13.160 ⇒ 00:08:15.000 Greg Stoutenburg: of these destinations or something else.
82 00:08:15.000 ⇒ 00:08:15.589 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: For sure.
83 00:08:15.590 ⇒ 00:08:21.659 Greg Stoutenburg: And, yeah, you know, low urgency, but just as we’re… as we’re building this up.
84 00:08:21.660 ⇒ 00:08:22.299 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, that’s me.
85 00:08:22.300 ⇒ 00:08:23.339 Greg Stoutenburg: be thinking about.
86 00:08:23.690 ⇒ 00:08:24.510 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah.
87 00:08:25.510 ⇒ 00:08:26.480 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Sure. Okay.
88 00:08:28.120 ⇒ 00:08:34.400 Greg Stoutenburg: Alright, well, if there’s no new stuff, and, we’ve just kind of got a couple of to-dos.
89 00:08:34.580 ⇒ 00:08:35.940 Greg Stoutenburg: I don’t really have anything else.
90 00:08:36.350 ⇒ 00:08:40.819 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: Yeah, no, same. Yeah, I expected this to be short, so… Sure. Yeah.
91 00:08:40.820 ⇒ 00:08:44.670 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, okay, great. All right, well, thanks for catching up.
92 00:08:44.670 ⇒ 00:08:46.289 Nandika Jhunjhunwala: time off, yeah, thank you.
93 00:08:46.290 ⇒ 00:08:48.340 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, I appreciate that, yeah. Take care. Alright, see ya.
94 00:08:48.860 ⇒ 00:08:49.210 Greg Stoutenburg: Right.