Meeting Title: Data Service Standup Date: 2026-02-27 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Awaish Kumar, Mustafa Raja, Demilade Agboola, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:11.230 00:00:12.030 Awaish Kumar: Right?

2 00:00:12.470 00:00:13.340 Brylle Girang: Hello?

3 00:00:14.220 00:00:15.060 Awaish Kumar: How are you doing?

4 00:00:15.810 00:00:17.520 Brylle Girang: Good! It’s Friday.

5 00:00:18.470 00:00:19.120 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

6 00:00:20.310 00:00:23.129 Brylle Girang: What plans do you have for the weekend?

7 00:00:25.440 00:00:26.400 Awaish Kumar: Mmm.

8 00:00:26.980 00:00:32.710 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, nothing… Specific. Never… I didn’t thought of… about that yet.

9 00:00:33.180 00:00:37.290 Awaish Kumar: But might we just be watching some Netflix or something.

10 00:00:37.290 00:00:40.520 Brylle Girang: Get some rest. I know that you’re pity-packed.

11 00:00:41.310 00:00:42.690 Awaish Kumar: Yes, yes.

12 00:00:45.180 00:00:49.619 Brylle Girang: Ashwini will be skipping, I’m not sure if Demi will be joining.

13 00:01:59.950 00:02:00.770 Awaish Kumar: Hello?

14 00:02:05.020 00:02:05.410 Mustafa Raja: Hey.

15 00:02:07.490 00:02:08.520 Awaish Kumar: How you doing?

16 00:02:09.350 00:02:10.320 Mustafa Raja: Good, how are you?

17 00:02:11.580 00:02:12.720 Awaish Kumar: I’m good as that.

18 00:02:14.560 00:02:17.449 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I don’t know, Dami, sorry.

19 00:02:36.190 00:02:37.060 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

20 00:02:38.960 00:02:40.540 Awaish Kumar: Hello, Demi, how are you?

21 00:02:42.930 00:02:45.060 Demilade Agboola: I wish I’m fine. How’s everyone doing?

22 00:02:46.980 00:02:47.970 Mustafa Raja: How do you?

23 00:02:48.340 00:02:49.040 Awaish Kumar: I’m good.

24 00:02:49.590 00:02:51.270 Demilade Agboola: That’s good to hear, that’s good to hear.

25 00:03:02.150 00:03:03.949 Awaish Kumar: Hello, Hodong, how are you?

26 00:03:03.950 00:03:05.400 Uttam Kumaran: Hey. Hey, good.

27 00:03:06.540 00:03:07.899 Uttam Kumaran: My camera’s, like, super high.

28 00:03:07.900 00:03:10.369 Brylle Girang: Yeah, what happened to your cameraman?

29 00:03:10.370 00:03:17.790 Uttam Kumaran: Restart. I just restarted my… my, computer, so I think it… Like, reset everything.

30 00:03:18.070 00:03:20.520 Brylle Girang: You’re, like, 5 meters away.

31 00:03:21.100 00:03:22.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

32 00:03:23.240 00:03:24.229 Brylle Girang: There it is.

33 00:03:27.640 00:03:30.890 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I think we can start the stand-up.

34 00:03:33.380 00:03:34.170 Uttam Kumaran: Right.

35 00:03:34.860 00:03:39.310 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I think I can start with Eden OS,

36 00:03:39.480 00:03:43.940 Awaish Kumar: So for the Eden OS, I think we have completed all the modeling work.

37 00:03:44.500 00:03:45.420 Awaish Kumar: And…

38 00:03:45.960 00:03:55.960 Awaish Kumar: like, I’ve submitted the Gantt chart and, sorry, the document where we have all the list of all the milestones that needed to be completed.

39 00:03:56.920 00:04:01.199 Awaish Kumar: I think, yeah, Braille is helping us with Gantt chart.

40 00:04:02.700 00:04:09.360 Awaish Kumar: I think then, yeah, we are just blocked on getting some data in to start, with the

41 00:04:09.550 00:04:11.650 Awaish Kumar: With testing and deployment.

42 00:04:12.740 00:04:18.079 Brylle Girang: Noting this for this meeting too, I’m going to convert the Gantt chart to

43 00:04:18.180 00:04:20.660 Brylle Girang: Linear tasks, would that work for you, Awish?

44 00:04:22.089 00:04:23.009 Awaish Kumar: Yep.

45 00:04:23.010 00:04:23.690 Brylle Girang: Okay.

46 00:04:28.140 00:04:31.520 Awaish Kumar: Then, moving on to Magic Spoons.

47 00:04:32.720 00:04:35.510 Awaish Kumar: I think we still have same issue, Bill. Yeah.

48 00:04:35.510 00:04:44.370 Brylle Girang: I fixed that, but it’s not… it doesn’t affect the current cycle, but as you can see, there’s no longer cool down, so the next cycle should be good.

49 00:04:45.710 00:04:51.029 Awaish Kumar: Okay, I think, Ashwini has updated that he’s still working on Springs API extraction part.

50 00:04:51.230 00:04:52.240 Brylle Girang: Yeah.

51 00:04:52.240 00:04:57.420 Awaish Kumar: So, in terms of… As a CSO, Demi, can you give your updates?

52 00:04:59.100 00:05:05.880 Demilade Agboola: So right now, we just want to finalize the SOW. I’ve had conversations with Utam and Robert about it.

53 00:05:06.540 00:05:09.549 Demilade Agboola: So we’re gonna push, for a 6… for a 12-month.

54 00:05:09.920 00:05:11.860 Demilade Agboola: Contracts with them.

55 00:05:12.260 00:05:19.550 Demilade Agboola: And then the plan will be to ramp up as we see other opportunities to increase the budget.

56 00:05:21.830 00:05:28.250 Demilade Agboola: So yes, we’re going to send that over to them, and in terms of, like, what we need to do, we just basically need to extract the Sprints data.

57 00:05:28.750 00:05:33.959 Demilade Agboola: And finish up some of the models for them, based off of that. I think that will be the next step.

58 00:05:35.170 00:05:39.400 Uttam Kumaran: Is that… is… is that a SOW ready to sign? Do you know?

59 00:05:41.900 00:05:54.180 Demilade Agboola: So I have… I have done the SOW, I’ll send it over to them this morning. I don’t know if you want them to sign the SOW directly, or you wanted the contract, because I know you tagged Rico in both the contract.

60 00:05:55.130 00:05:57.779 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so our… kind of our process is, like.

61 00:05:58.070 00:06:01.040 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t… I think let’s just go ahead and,

62 00:06:02.020 00:06:05.089 Uttam Kumaran: sent, like, I think what we’ll do is,

63 00:06:08.180 00:06:10.489 Uttam Kumaran: If it… if your changes are already there.

64 00:06:10.890 00:06:17.039 Uttam Kumaran: then Rico can just send it to me, and I can just sign, and we’ll just send it to them and mention, hey, we sent it out for signing.

65 00:06:17.310 00:06:23.429 Uttam Kumaran: all the… and then we can mention the terms… like, all the terms apart from what we discussed are the same as last time, so…

66 00:06:24.510 00:06:28.039 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, yeah, I actually knocked down some of… some other stuff, because basically.

67 00:06:28.040 00:06:28.790 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

68 00:06:29.550 00:06:33.900 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, basically, I think we should reduce some of the scope, because

69 00:06:34.000 00:06:37.449 Demilade Agboola: The focus right now will be largely on…

70 00:06:37.700 00:06:41.220 Demilade Agboola: Spins for the first couple weeks, get that out the door.

71 00:06:41.370 00:06:43.260 Demilade Agboola: Maintenance ramping up.

72 00:06:43.500 00:06:48.299 Demilade Agboola: Setting up infrastructure to… For a letter to…

73 00:06:48.300 00:06:48.730 Awaish Kumar: Period.

74 00:06:48.730 00:06:50.349 Demilade Agboola: And then we will…

75 00:06:50.350 00:06:50.730 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

76 00:06:50.730 00:06:51.330 Demilade Agboola: Shoot.

77 00:06:51.630 00:06:54.630 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, but basically, the scope… the scope has been reduced.

78 00:06:55.030 00:06:56.880 Demilade Agboola: And then we’ll ramp up as necessary.

79 00:06:59.000 00:07:02.589 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, I think we can move on to CTA.

80 00:07:02.870 00:07:06.610 Awaish Kumar: So, yeah, how do you think it’s going, Utam?

81 00:07:07.930 00:07:10.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think it’s good. We have our,

82 00:07:10.720 00:07:19.039 Uttam Kumaran: we have our call later. I just want us to just continue to drive the CES thing. So I think maybe one thing away, is, like, this team is pretty technical.

83 00:07:19.410 00:07:26.070 Uttam Kumaran: like, compared to Element, I think we could probably do some communication directly with them in Slack, so if you find any issues…

84 00:07:26.170 00:07:31.230 Uttam Kumaran: I think they’ll be open to spending… they really like us, they want to spend more time with us.

85 00:07:31.600 00:07:40.689 Uttam Kumaran: So feel free to add any questions there. I see your stuff coming in, so let’s just drive forward. If you want, I can review that PR, too, if you’d like me to today.

86 00:07:40.690 00:07:55.059 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, in terms of model, I think it’s, like, a SQL query, like, it’s pretty… it includes all the fields we need. The main thing is that it is missing data, and we don’t have the data in raw tables as well.

87 00:07:55.180 00:08:01.939 Awaish Kumar: So I’m just figuring out if I can find it in S3 to ingest it. Otherwise, I’m just going to maybe ask them.

88 00:08:02.870 00:08:03.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

89 00:08:05.410 00:08:06.130 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

90 00:08:09.170 00:08:16.110 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, and… yeah, that’s all, I think, right? I’m trying to finish, like.

91 00:08:17.170 00:08:21.070 Awaish Kumar: The… the… like, that will help us, like.

92 00:08:21.500 00:08:26.909 Awaish Kumar: 50% of the work on CS modeling, if we can… finishing whatever I’ve started.

93 00:08:27.050 00:08:29.720 Awaish Kumar: And then we can look at the other tickets.

94 00:08:32.010 00:08:32.600 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

95 00:08:33.650 00:08:38.860 Awaish Kumar: Then, I think moving on to Element… So, yeah, you can…

96 00:08:39.929 00:08:42.829 Awaish Kumar: We can, like, talk about how client health is.

97 00:08:43.380 00:08:58.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so in terms of Element, I think Oasis, I think you and… you and Amber’s sort of pairing this week has been good. We did put a renewal in front of them, and this… it will increase them to probably,

98 00:08:58.720 00:09:00.959 Uttam Kumaran: 30% bigger than Eden.

99 00:09:01.130 00:09:08.080 Uttam Kumaran: So, we will most likely bring on an additional 3 people onto, onto, Element.

100 00:09:08.430 00:09:09.540 Uttam Kumaran: So…

101 00:09:09.680 00:09:16.670 Uttam Kumaran: It should be, I’m not sure who yet. I think this is something that the CSOs will kind of discuss.

102 00:09:16.810 00:09:20.500 Uttam Kumaran: Now that we have several people in the final rounds, but,

103 00:09:20.860 00:09:25.900 Uttam Kumaran: Fingers crossed, like, it should be our largest deal we’ve ever done.

104 00:09:27.120 00:09:33.420 Uttam Kumaran: I think the big thing to note there is, like, we’re gonna probably bring on a senior analyst, potentially Jasmine.

105 00:09:33.670 00:09:38.950 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’ll also bring on another, AE.

106 00:09:40.920 00:09:45.119 Uttam Kumaran: So I think it’s just something that I have to look at resourcing and make some decisions on, but…

107 00:09:45.490 00:10:03.299 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we… it’s looking like it’s gonna go through, I’m not sure yet, but let’s see. So, overall, positive. So today, I’ll be working on updating the 4 box. I think if you and Amber can just continue to push to get Phil’s thing out, and yeah, respond to any of Shivani’s stuff, I’ll take a look at your note, too. So, yeah.

108 00:10:04.360 00:10:05.969 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, so Phil’s…

109 00:10:06.490 00:10:14.220 Awaish Kumar: things like, in terms of modeling, I’ve already done that, so I will see if Amber has any feedback, and then follow up on that.

110 00:10:14.580 00:10:20.510 Awaish Kumar: Okay. And for the wholesale side, I can include that, international versus domestic part.

111 00:10:21.550 00:10:24.550 Awaish Kumar: Today, so Amber can work on it.

112 00:10:25.340 00:10:27.989 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Apart from that.

113 00:10:28.160 00:10:30.619 Awaish Kumar: For the… on the ingestion side, I think we…

114 00:10:31.690 00:10:37.990 Awaish Kumar: I just have to send a message to Polytomic, basically, how they are going to build a Walmart connector.

115 00:10:38.280 00:10:42.480 Awaish Kumar: But apart from that, I think we are… I’m doing okay there.

116 00:10:43.180 00:10:43.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

117 00:10:46.840 00:10:47.490 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

118 00:10:48.430 00:10:58.659 Awaish Kumar: And then moving on, to default, yeah, how is it going, generally?

119 00:11:02.540 00:11:05.910 Demilade Agboola: From a data perspective, I think we’re in a good spot.

120 00:11:06.010 00:11:11.060 Demilade Agboola: We started the modeling We’ve been able to start building out some of the dashboards,

121 00:11:11.720 00:11:16.270 Demilade Agboola: We’ve been able to get, like, clear requirements from the team for the different metrics and what they need.

122 00:11:16.590 00:11:23.130 Demilade Agboola: So next week, the focus especially will be on getting out those… as many dashboards as possible.

123 00:11:23.730 00:11:26.749 Demilade Agboola: Because we have two dashboards we’re looking at, currently.

124 00:11:26.910 00:11:35.600 Demilade Agboola: Well, technically, 3, because… One… there’s a financial summary dashboard, And,

125 00:11:35.760 00:11:41.210 Demilade Agboola: They have a current existing dashboard that we’re going to have to migrate as well, so that will be 3 in total.

126 00:11:41.320 00:11:44.590 Demilade Agboola: But the areas were, were pretty good,

127 00:11:45.080 00:11:48.770 Demilade Agboola: The team has, like, the data that… the team has…

128 00:11:49.770 00:11:59.109 Demilade Agboola: access to some of the data that we’re already creating, and, like, I’m even having a session today with Nadiga, where I’m going to teach her some of things in Omni, so she would have some independence as well.

129 00:11:59.310 00:12:03.739 Demilade Agboola: So ultimately, yeah, I think we’re in a good spot as well to just kind of…

130 00:12:04.630 00:12:05.670 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

131 00:12:07.570 00:12:10.090 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, Mustaval, you wanna add something?

132 00:12:10.640 00:12:25.030 Mustafa Raja: Yes, so, we’re pretty much on track based on the Gantt chart. Apart from that, I have these new tasks, so what we are going to do is, we are going to look into the, metrics, prepare metrics for all dashboards.

133 00:12:25.140 00:12:33.350 Mustafa Raja: And send it, to default, to align ourselves, for upcoming dashboards. It’s on my task.

134 00:12:33.730 00:12:35.370 Mustafa Raja: Okay, this one. Oh, yeah, this one.

135 00:12:35.370 00:12:35.970 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

136 00:12:36.070 00:12:46.870 Awaish Kumar: Apart from that, like, I know, Muswa, you have been working on these ad hoc requests from them. Do they convert into any indecisions, like buying of tools and things like that, or…

137 00:12:49.350 00:12:51.270 Mustafa Raja: Not as such, to be honest.

138 00:12:51.870 00:12:55.600 Awaish Kumar: Okay, like, last time we did for SEMrush, I don’t know, like…

139 00:12:57.340 00:13:01.890 Awaish Kumar: what was the outcome after that? Like, what was the feedback from the client?

140 00:13:02.210 00:13:13.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, the data was directionally good, but the code that they quote from SEMrush, they felt that was a little bit too much.

141 00:13:19.010 00:13:20.749 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s pretty much it.

142 00:13:21.260 00:13:21.900 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

143 00:13:22.180 00:13:25.570 Awaish Kumar: And then moving on to Eden.

144 00:13:26.300 00:13:34.669 Awaish Kumar: For… So, for this one workstream where we are doing GHL, ZenoT, and Zeno2GHL,

145 00:13:35.220 00:13:40.130 Awaish Kumar: We have implemented things from our side, so…

146 00:13:40.720 00:13:46.490 Awaish Kumar: One, like, one that the Zapier account needs to be upgraded. I’m following up on that.

147 00:13:47.000 00:13:55.550 Awaish Kumar: And then, second part is, Robert will be connecting Felicia directly to Coral data, so they can implement

148 00:13:56.080 00:13:58.310 Awaish Kumar: Some of the automation themselves.

149 00:14:00.180 00:14:02.950 Awaish Kumar: And then… for the…

150 00:14:04.920 00:14:11.539 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, for this task, I received it, I think, yesterday from Mustafa. I’m going to work on that.

151 00:14:12.160 00:14:19.660 Awaish Kumar: Today, and apart from that, I think… Yeah, it’s going… Well, here as well.

152 00:14:25.850 00:14:26.670 Uttam Kumaran: Great.

153 00:14:27.640 00:14:34.609 Uttam Kumaran: Like, is… if there’s an… you think the… if the Zenoti thing is gonna take longer, dude, then I’ll just upgrade our Zapier. What do you think?

154 00:14:36.400 00:14:44.960 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, Robert already sent a message in Finance Analytics form for Eden that they need to send us a credit card. That’s all. Once they send it.

155 00:14:45.220 00:14:56.019 Awaish Kumar: We just need to, like, convert it from a free plan to the team plan, so I can actually transfer the ownership from Robert to the Felicia. Right now, on the free plan, I can’t do that.

156 00:14:56.760 00:14:57.919 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, but it’s built.

157 00:15:00.070 00:15:05.190 Awaish Kumar: It’s not billed, right? It is… there’s no credit card, it’s a free plan right now. It’s a trial.

158 00:15:05.190 00:15:12.840 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess what I’m saying, should I just upgrade our team plan so you can get unblocked? Because I know this is something that you’re trying to do on Monday.

159 00:15:13.630 00:15:15.299 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want you to be blocked.

160 00:15:17.420 00:15:18.000 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

161 00:15:18.000 00:15:24.489 Awaish Kumar: I already implemented all the flows. It’s just their account, and that’s all.

162 00:15:25.300 00:15:26.250 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay.

163 00:15:30.440 00:15:35.300 Awaish Kumar: I think I don’t know why it’s red, like, I just put it in client review.

164 00:15:35.540 00:15:36.260 Awaish Kumar: kind of…

165 00:15:36.260 00:15:36.830 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

166 00:15:42.150 00:15:45.669 Awaish Kumar: So blocked and client review, like, colors look same.

167 00:15:46.110 00:15:47.640 Awaish Kumar: Maybe we can change it.

168 00:15:48.380 00:15:51.539 Awaish Kumar: For… yeah, Ashwini is also blogged on,

169 00:15:52.100 00:16:00.800 Awaish Kumar: On this ticket, for… and he’s, like, expecting some reply from Eden team, so once that is there, we can finish the modeling for upfronts.

170 00:16:01.460 00:16:02.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

171 00:16:03.400 00:16:09.879 Awaish Kumar: Okay, then I think that’s the end of the stand-up, so is there anything you want to flag? We’re gonna stay otherwise.

172 00:16:10.460 00:16:11.280 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I think…

173 00:16:11.280 00:16:15.849 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe Awash and Demi, you want to stay for, like, 2 minutes? We can just talk about the…

174 00:16:16.310 00:16:17.869 Uttam Kumaran: Final interview stuff.

175 00:16:18.690 00:16:19.570 Awaish Kumar: Sure.

176 00:16:19.740 00:16:21.809 Uttam Kumaran: Kayla wanted just me to help with that.

177 00:16:22.910 00:16:23.830 Brylle Girang: Thanks, guys!

178 00:16:24.560 00:16:25.119 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.

179 00:16:25.120 00:16:26.339 Awaish Kumar: Thank you, bye.

180 00:16:29.990 00:16:38.000 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, what do you guys… what do you guys think? I think we have a few people in final, so… I can work on a final thing, but yeah, I’m open to your thoughts.

181 00:16:38.670 00:16:41.249 Awaish Kumar: She sent us a message, I, I…

182 00:16:41.690 00:16:48.919 Awaish Kumar: just, like, I have a lot… few tasks, which just needs to be in, like,

183 00:16:49.070 00:16:52.199 Awaish Kumar: Formalized in such a way that we can share it.

184 00:16:52.690 00:16:57.000 Awaish Kumar: Okay. So, like, a sample of data, and then what needs to be…

185 00:16:57.180 00:17:00.339 Awaish Kumar: transform, I just need to put it in some proper structure.

186 00:17:01.200 00:17:01.780 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

187 00:17:03.360 00:17:07.500 Awaish Kumar: So, I have a few to ask, I’m not… No.

188 00:17:07.839 00:17:09.450 Awaish Kumar: At least for data analytics side.

189 00:17:10.790 00:17:17.769 Demilade Agboola: I think we might need two tasks. I mean, one for AE, one for DE, because… or do we want just one task for both of them?

190 00:17:19.119 00:17:21.389 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, what do you think… I mean, if you guys…

191 00:17:21.529 00:17:27.029 Uttam Kumaran: Tell me… well, Awash, can you tell… show Demi… are you aware what the DE task is, Demi?

192 00:17:28.000 00:17:28.830 Demilade Agboola: No, I’m not.

193 00:17:29.290 00:17:33.210 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, maybe a ways, you wanna show that, and then let’s… we can discuss what we want.

194 00:17:34.090 00:17:35.880 Awaish Kumar: I mean… Yeah.

195 00:17:35.880 00:17:37.599 Uttam Kumaran: the AE task, yeah.

196 00:17:37.600 00:17:41.409 Awaish Kumar: That… the one we created already, it… that was one… that…

197 00:17:41.700 00:17:44.850 Awaish Kumar: That was for AI, right? AI engineer.

198 00:17:49.900 00:17:50.910 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

199 00:17:51.300 00:17:57.819 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, the one I’ve worked on with Sam, like, we actually came up with a task which was… which is being used

200 00:17:58.080 00:18:00.680 Awaish Kumar: For AI engineer, but I think we…

201 00:18:01.500 00:18:03.950 Awaish Kumar: I don’t have yet for date D, any…

202 00:18:06.200 00:18:08.199 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, so we don’t have any task.

203 00:18:10.530 00:18:14.090 Awaish Kumar: So, so I guess, like, what do you think we should do? I mean…

204 00:18:14.360 00:18:18.570 Uttam Kumaran: For DE, like, I guess Awash, like, what would you be interested in seeing?

205 00:18:21.270 00:18:25.429 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I think, for DE, I think,

206 00:18:26.000 00:18:32.680 Awaish Kumar: I would be interested in seeing if they can maybe use some open source tool, spin up that, add some…

207 00:18:32.870 00:18:36.810 Awaish Kumar: For example, like, AirByte or Airflow, and then write some

208 00:18:39.320 00:18:45.620 Awaish Kumar: Like, the workflows or connections there, and then… And just some data.

209 00:18:47.240 00:18:48.410 Awaish Kumar: For example, to…

210 00:18:48.410 00:18:49.300 Uttam Kumaran: So maybe…

211 00:18:49.760 00:18:50.460 Awaish Kumar: Maybe 5.

212 00:18:50.460 00:18:51.250 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe it…

213 00:18:51.410 00:18:52.490 Awaish Kumar: Yep. Yeah.

214 00:18:52.490 00:18:58.259 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to have them do that live, or… or how much do you want them to have done beforehand?

215 00:19:01.370 00:19:07.159 Awaish Kumar: Like, it could just take maybe 2-3 hours of their time to do, like, as a homework.

216 00:19:07.780 00:19:10.380 Awaish Kumar: I don’t think we can do that live.

217 00:19:12.430 00:19:21.959 Uttam Kumaran: So, you’re saying that, like, maybe spin up… Spin up AirByte.

218 00:19:22.500 00:19:27.440 Uttam Kumaran: load, maybe we can give them, like, some DuckDB databases?

219 00:19:27.440 00:19:28.850 Awaish Kumar: Yeah. With some spots.

220 00:19:28.850 00:19:29.310 Uttam Kumaran: data.

221 00:19:29.310 00:19:38.300 Awaish Kumar: Give them CSVs, so they can load nearby to DuckDB, and then… or DuckDB or Postgres, whatever they prefer.

222 00:19:38.530 00:19:40.850 Awaish Kumar: And then… Maybe you do…

223 00:19:40.850 00:19:41.849 Uttam Kumaran: set up dbt.

224 00:19:42.100 00:19:43.779 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, set up DBT or something.

225 00:19:45.270 00:19:53.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay. And then, I guess, Demi, what do you think for, like, AE? Like, what are you interested in, like, seeing from, like, a…

226 00:19:53.590 00:19:57.110 Uttam Kumaran: An exercise, and then, like, for, like, a panel review.

227 00:19:58.990 00:20:01.850 Demilade Agboola: I think from my perspective, I would just like to see…

228 00:20:03.710 00:20:07.709 Demilade Agboola: From, like, raw data, how they’re able to transform.

229 00:20:08.860 00:20:11.040 Demilade Agboola: So things around…

230 00:20:11.360 00:20:15.959 Demilade Agboola: Like, the intermediate layer, how are they utilizing it, what is… how are they thinking about it?

231 00:20:16.300 00:20:23.020 Demilade Agboola: And the final mats, like, how are they thinking about the utility of the mats they’re building, so…

232 00:20:23.280 00:20:30.239 Demilade Agboola: Are they doing star schemas? Are they doing normalized schemas? And if so, why are they doing either schemas?

233 00:20:32.040 00:20:48.769 Demilade Agboola: are they thinking about setting, like, business logic? So if we put certain business logic in there, like, for instance, the week starts on a Friday, for instance, like, the business week starts on a Friday. Are they able to apply that to the data? Are they able to…

234 00:20:48.940 00:20:49.770 Demilade Agboola: Okay.

235 00:20:50.000 00:20:54.819 Demilade Agboola: We are aware of things like, oh, churn does not count until the renewal dates.

236 00:20:55.180 00:21:00.960 Demilade Agboola: exceeds, until it’s 3 months after the renewal date, for instance, so…

237 00:21:01.380 00:21:06.190 Demilade Agboola: To add those little bits of logic to ensure that we’re able to still do that.

238 00:21:06.510 00:21:10.230 Demilade Agboola: And be able to pass that logic in will be very important.

239 00:21:10.630 00:21:11.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

240 00:21:33.380 00:21:34.870 Demilade Agboola: TV2 people, that takes…

241 00:21:35.640 00:21:42.870 Demilade Agboola: And see how they try to optimize it. Like, how they go about optimizing this query to, you know, speed it up.

242 00:21:44.320 00:21:44.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

243 00:21:45.890 00:21:51.679 Awaish Kumar: But I think if you just give… tell them that you need to optimize, they are… they’re obviously going to give.

244 00:21:52.200 00:21:57.710 Awaish Kumar: And do it very well, but maybe give them a task to write to query?

245 00:21:58.490 00:22:03.049 Uttam Kumaran: Like, do you want them to find the issues, or do you want them to, like, propose?

246 00:22:06.520 00:22:11.279 Uttam Kumaran: Like, do you want to find, or do you want to be like, hey, there are these issues, kind of? Like, you should go find them?

247 00:22:13.080 00:22:15.679 Demilade Agboola: I think, potentially, I think two things we could do.

248 00:22:15.840 00:22:17.870 Demilade Agboola: for, like, from an AE perspective.

249 00:22:18.030 00:22:22.619 Demilade Agboola: So, it will not necessarily be a brand new repo, in terms of, like.

250 00:22:22.770 00:22:26.269 Demilade Agboola: From scratch, build our intermediate layer and the math layer.

251 00:22:26.440 00:22:33.500 Demilade Agboola: But we can have maybe intermediate models, and we can say, hey, you have the staging, you have the intermediate.

252 00:22:33.680 00:22:38.159 Demilade Agboola: Build out the mods that you need to build out, for, like, say, revenue.

253 00:22:38.820 00:22:45.680 Demilade Agboola: That’s one, and then two might now be the final thing is, like, ensure you optimize the repo, right?

254 00:22:45.950 00:22:51.280 Demilade Agboola: And in there, in the ripple, like, in the intermediate layer, we can have, like.

255 00:22:51.620 00:23:00.729 Demilade Agboola: really badly written code in certain cases. In some cases, we can have, like, what’s it called?

256 00:23:00.950 00:23:05.330 Demilade Agboola: Long-running models, so we can say, hey, there are models that are running for, like.

257 00:23:05.460 00:23:06.810 Demilade Agboola: A really long time.

258 00:23:06.930 00:23:08.490 Demilade Agboola: Like, optimize it.

259 00:23:08.600 00:23:16.450 Demilade Agboola: So, you want people to be able to think about, you know, the join keys, you want people to think about indexing, you want people to think about,

260 00:23:16.610 00:23:30.079 Demilade Agboola: replacing select style with the name of the columns that you actually need, so you reduce the number of table… number of, like, the amount of table you’re scanning, things like that. Like, I want to be able to see how they’re able to think through a problem, solve it.

261 00:23:30.290 00:23:35.100 Demilade Agboola: And, you know, identify ways to optimize the code that already exists.

262 00:23:36.830 00:23:42.779 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so what if I take what we talked about today, and I’ll create, like, a GitHub repo?

263 00:23:43.110 00:23:47.689 Uttam Kumaran: I think for… basically, I’m gonna create a GitHub repo for…

264 00:23:48.630 00:24:00.029 Uttam Kumaran: maybe just for each exercise, like, one for a DE exercise, one for an AE exercise. I think the AE one, it’ll just be all contained in, like, dbt and DuckDB, so that you can run the whole thing on your machine.

265 00:24:00.240 00:24:04.570 Uttam Kumaran: And then I think for the DE exercise, I think we’ll just…

266 00:24:05.020 00:24:14.460 Uttam Kumaran: leave just the CSVs, maybe, and like… and then that way I can put the README for the, like, instructions there. It’ll be easy for Kayla to share that, and we can make that public.

267 00:24:16.950 00:24:18.209 Uttam Kumaran: What do you guys think?

268 00:24:18.210 00:24:21.010 Demilade Agboola: Okay, yeah, I think that’s… that’s what we also…

269 00:24:21.010 00:24:22.550 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I think that will work.

270 00:24:23.390 00:24:23.970 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

271 00:24:26.590 00:24:29.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so let me give that a shot. I have some time today, so…

272 00:24:31.190 00:24:35.629 Uttam Kumaran: And then, Demi, also on Urban Stems, I messaged Zach again.

273 00:24:35.900 00:24:43.960 Uttam Kumaran: They’re thinking about potentially bringing us back in for maybe some, like, demand forecasting work for some strategy stuff.

274 00:24:44.290 00:24:45.949 Uttam Kumaran: Not 100%.

275 00:24:46.440 00:24:47.460 Uttam Kumaran: Sure, though.

276 00:24:47.740 00:24:49.749 Uttam Kumaran: So… I don’t know.

277 00:24:50.950 00:24:56.200 Demilade Agboola: Well, let’s see how that goes. We’ll see. But that just sounds like you need an analyst on the team.

278 00:24:57.240 00:24:58.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yes.

279 00:24:58.320 00:25:04.749 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good. I think… I know Amber’s been doing really well with analysis recently, so that’s… that’s…

280 00:25:05.760 00:25:10.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, me too. I mean, she’s been doing great. There’s only one of her, though, so that’s the problem.

281 00:25:10.430 00:25:12.959 Demilade Agboola: I was going to say that, I was going to say that she was…

282 00:25:13.670 00:25:16.140 Demilade Agboola: Number of projects already, so that might be harder to…

283 00:25:16.140 00:25:22.980 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so Jasmine, who I… you may have met, I think we’re, like, feeling pretty confident, although I know we’re… we’re gonna be…

284 00:25:23.250 00:25:25.020 Uttam Kumaran: Robert’s gathering some feedback.

285 00:25:25.200 00:25:30.710 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I mean, I think we’re… we have a few other analysts that are… In pipeline now.

286 00:25:30.900 00:25:36.749 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, really, really thankful for Kayla, she’s, like, gonna be pushing a lot, so… Yeah, should be good.

287 00:25:37.420 00:25:38.699 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good, then.

288 00:25:40.600 00:25:41.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

289 00:25:42.010 00:25:44.330 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thank you both, appreciate it.

290 00:25:45.270 00:25:46.389 Demilade Agboola: Take care.