Meeting Title: BF — MS Sync Date: 2026-02-25 Meeting participants: Demilade Agboola, Blueberry Muffin
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1 00:00:31.820 ⇒ 00:00:33.160 Blueberry Muffin: Hey, Demi, how are you?
2 00:00:34.240 ⇒ 00:00:35.830 Demilade Agboola: Mary, I’m good, how are you?
3 00:00:36.090 ⇒ 00:00:36.820 Blueberry Muffin: Good.
4 00:00:37.340 ⇒ 00:00:45.379 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, apologies for being a bit late. I just had to finish up a meeting before hopping into this, and kind of… I knew it was going to kind of spill over.
5 00:00:45.860 ⇒ 00:00:47.739 Blueberry Muffin: Yeah. No worries at all.
6 00:00:47.910 ⇒ 00:00:48.629 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
7 00:00:49.710 ⇒ 00:00:55.689 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so I just wanted to talk about, like, the, like, potentially what the next phase looks like.
8 00:00:55.880 ⇒ 00:01:00.999 Demilade Agboola: Just on a high level, and just kind of get your perspective of it.
9 00:01:03.600 ⇒ 00:01:07.960 Demilade Agboola: So we’re thinking, in terms of, like, maintenance,
10 00:01:09.830 ⇒ 00:01:17.499 Demilade Agboola: we will be, like, obviously, we will be responsible for the maintenance and ensuring that anything that happens gets fixed, ASAP.
11 00:01:18.200 ⇒ 00:01:23.370 Demilade Agboola: So usually, we try to ensure that anything that happens, we identify it within two
12 00:01:23.520 ⇒ 00:01:29.809 Demilade Agboola: hours, and then we triage it within 12. So, basically, we ensure that
13 00:01:31.440 ⇒ 00:01:36.010 Demilade Agboola: Identification happens, and then within the business day, you basically have a fix.
14 00:01:36.350 ⇒ 00:01:39.410 Blueberry Muffin: Awesome. So that’s kind of what we’re looking at.
15 00:01:40.940 ⇒ 00:01:50.679 Demilade Agboola: When you… when you think, and in terms of, like, the hours allocated to that, like, for maintenance, we’re thinking, like, 10, 15 hours a week?
16 00:01:51.350 ⇒ 00:01:57.300 Demilade Agboola: So that will be… And that’s usually will be, like.
17 00:01:58.330 ⇒ 00:02:01.420 Demilade Agboola: Potentially one person, maybe two, because, like…
18 00:02:01.630 ⇒ 00:02:06.090 Demilade Agboola: If… when you’re talking 10 hours, they’re not a lot of hours to share amongst, like, multiple people.
19 00:02:07.020 ⇒ 00:02:11.620 Blueberry Muffin: Sure, I guess I’m just… Are you… For part of that maintenance.
20 00:02:11.626 ⇒ 00:02:29.506 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Is that standing up some of those net new capabilities, like the unit testing, safeguards, alerting, or is that just kind of standard baseline, keeping things afloat? Because we do have some weeks where there aren’t any issues, and there isn’t a ton to be… be monitoring or looking out for that I don’t think would require,
21 00:02:29.646 ⇒ 00:02:31.745 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): 10 to 15 hours to focus on that.
22 00:02:32.520 ⇒ 00:02:39.459 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, I mean, so 10-15 hours will include, like, obviously triaging any issues that do come up.
23 00:02:39.660 ⇒ 00:02:46.370 Demilade Agboola: But also, yes, like, just ensuring that we’re setting up things around, like, alerting and,
24 00:02:46.370 ⇒ 00:02:47.140 Blueberry Muffin: Okay.
25 00:02:47.390 ⇒ 00:02:49.350 Blueberry Muffin: Got it, so that’s the… this, like.
26 00:02:49.350 ⇒ 00:02:53.790 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): setup of some of those new capabilities, and then…
27 00:02:54.710 ⇒ 00:02:58.030 Demilade Agboola: Because we won’t be able to properly maintain if we don’t have those things set up.
28 00:02:58.030 ⇒ 00:02:58.970 Blueberry Muffin: Yeah.
29 00:02:58.970 ⇒ 00:03:00.660 Demilade Agboola: That’s kind of the idea of that.
30 00:03:02.030 ⇒ 00:03:07.499 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): And then after that’s stood up, you don’t anticipate maintenance remaining 10 to 15 hours a week?
31 00:03:08.190 ⇒ 00:03:08.630 Demilade Agboola: Obviously, yeah.
32 00:03:08.630 ⇒ 00:03:28.199 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): as things come up and need to be triaged, we can reprioritize those hours to allocate, but once… I guess once we have a better system in place, ideally we’re not seeing as many issues to triage, and we wouldn’t expect it to be requiring that much capacity week over week.
33 00:03:28.870 ⇒ 00:03:31.850 Demilade Agboola: I mean, yeah, ideally, we should not have,
34 00:03:32.000 ⇒ 00:03:37.800 Demilade Agboola: Multiple issues coming up, in consecutive weeks, or in consecutive periods.
35 00:03:37.950 ⇒ 00:03:46.239 Demilade Agboola: That being said, like, the idea is… We will continue to, maintained, in terms of, like.
36 00:03:46.370 ⇒ 00:03:55.619 Demilade Agboola: As things sprawl out, we will try and ensure that we’re either getting for, like, for instance, the output models, ensure that we’re,
37 00:03:56.310 ⇒ 00:04:06.570 Demilade Agboola: Setting up appropriate observability on them, so that, like, if there is any breakage, or if anything happens, we will be responsible, and we will know what happens with that.
38 00:04:06.690 ⇒ 00:04:11.260 Demilade Agboola: Same thing with new data sources. If we’re adding any new data sources that come in.
39 00:04:11.260 ⇒ 00:04:16.839 Blueberry Muffin: kind of the testing, just to ensure, again, so that’s kind of, like, the maintenance. So it might not necessarily always be a…
40 00:04:16.839 ⇒ 00:04:20.589 Demilade Agboola: Well, it’s not necessarily a one-and-done thing, it’s just, like.
41 00:04:20.820 ⇒ 00:04:23.960 Demilade Agboola: We will ensure that the system, as much as possible.
42 00:04:24.160 ⇒ 00:04:28.400 Demilade Agboola: Alerting is set up for, like, as many different systems, such that…
43 00:04:28.530 ⇒ 00:04:34.409 Demilade Agboola: If there are any issues, we will be the first to know. That’s kind of the idea of that.
44 00:04:34.870 ⇒ 00:04:53.209 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Okay, great. Yeah, so just thinking through, kind of after the… everything’s stood up, and I know that it’s not going to ever be, like, a perfect fix, but, assuming we have no outages or issues to triage, and we’re not building any net new data sources, we would expect to have those 10 to 15 hours a week freed up for other projects.
45 00:04:53.350 ⇒ 00:04:55.270 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): For, like, that given week.
46 00:04:56.110 ⇒ 00:05:02.860 Demilade Agboola: I mean, ideally, yes. I think it’s also a function of…
47 00:05:03.940 ⇒ 00:05:07.320 Demilade Agboola: 10-15 hours is not really a lot to put across.
48 00:05:07.440 ⇒ 00:05:17.490 Demilade Agboola: Especially if it requires multiple people, so if it’s stuff that, like, hey, Ashwini needs to work on stuff, I need to work on stuff, or Tammy needs to hop in and look at stuff.
49 00:05:19.310 ⇒ 00:05:25.610 Demilade Agboola: 10 hours, for instance, or 15 hours is basically 3 hours a day, or 2 to 3 hours a day.
50 00:05:26.220 ⇒ 00:05:33.999 Demilade Agboola: That goes by real quick, and it’s hard to ensure… it’s hard to be able to say that we’ll be able to develop things.
51 00:05:35.060 ⇒ 00:05:38.800 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yes, yeah, understood there. I just want to make sure if,
52 00:05:39.160 ⇒ 00:05:47.510 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): If we aren’t in… if there are no issues in that week, we will still have capacity to work on things that aren’t that maintenance.
53 00:05:47.760 ⇒ 00:05:54.210 Demilade Agboola: I mean, ideally, yeah, but we’re looking, like, since we’re looking at, like, maintenance for, like, the next, what, 3 months-ish?
54 00:05:54.530 ⇒ 00:06:00.749 Demilade Agboola: I do foresee that those 3 months will be heavy on maintenance and setting up a lot of these things.
55 00:06:01.020 ⇒ 00:06:06.230 Demilade Agboola: Prior to then, like, talking about, okay, so what do we need to do going forward off of that?
56 00:06:07.610 ⇒ 00:06:08.390 Blueberry Muffin: Yes, and I…
57 00:06:08.390 ⇒ 00:06:21.000 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): I do… we do want to invest time in maintenance, but I know we also have the SPINS pipeline that has not reached its final deliverable yet, so we want to make sure that that’s the first priority in getting that across the finish line, and then…
58 00:06:21.000 ⇒ 00:06:30.979 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Just because that was in our initial scope of work. So we want… we need to see that completed, because it’s pretty late now. So we just need to make sure if we’re spending the…
59 00:06:31.020 ⇒ 00:06:35.760 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Before we go into any of the maintenance, getting that completed.
60 00:06:35.920 ⇒ 00:06:45.199 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): So we have those marks that our team can use, and then from there, going in and building out that maintenance infrastructure and understanding that that is going to take some time.
61 00:06:45.510 ⇒ 00:06:46.620 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): to a building. Yeah.
62 00:06:47.370 ⇒ 00:06:54.920 Demilade Agboola: So we definitely want to, like, finish the spin stuff. Honestly, I think at this point, some of the issues are… were beyond the initial…
63 00:06:55.070 ⇒ 00:06:58.290 Demilade Agboola: Scoping, in terms of… There are things we…
64 00:06:58.710 ⇒ 00:07:02.779 Demilade Agboola: When scoping, we do not foresee, like, being an issue.
65 00:07:04.190 ⇒ 00:07:13.940 Demilade Agboola: And that’s kind of, like, right now, the… we’re kind of stuck based off of Spain’s feedback, and that’s kind of the only thing we had to just do, figure out, like, okay, so how do we, like.
66 00:07:14.370 ⇒ 00:07:20.199 Demilade Agboola: the API doesn’t work for calculating TDP and ACV, so how are we going to go about that?
67 00:07:22.440 ⇒ 00:07:28.039 Demilade Agboola: these are very core metrics that we need for spins. I think that’s literally the only blockage, but every other, like, metric that we need.
68 00:07:28.150 ⇒ 00:07:31.730 Demilade Agboola: from the Spins API, at least for the V1, we’ve been able.
69 00:07:32.180 ⇒ 00:07:33.399 Demilade Agboola: Extract that out.
70 00:07:33.930 ⇒ 00:07:46.039 Demilade Agboola: And I think that’s, like, the only thing we need to do to tie it, like, neatly in a bowl, so I… it’s… I don’t feel… I don’t necessarily feel like the scope… in terms of the scope, yes, like, yes, we needed to deliver… we, like, wanted to deliver that.
71 00:07:46.200 ⇒ 00:08:04.760 Demilade Agboola: And we need to deliver that. Sometimes just… these things just happen that are out of, like, foreseen circumstances. Even, like, in maintenance, for instance, now, we can say, hey, we’re gonna maintain for 10… 10 hours, but we could, like, a week could happen where just… it’s just crazy, and we might go above 10 hours just to ensure that the pipeline and everything is fine.
72 00:08:05.270 ⇒ 00:08:14.220 Demilade Agboola: So we try our best to scope as, you know, realistically as possible. We try our best to ensure that everything is put into
73 00:08:14.560 ⇒ 00:08:23.049 Demilade Agboola: View when we’re scoping all these things, but, like, unfortunately, sometimes these things just aren’t always fully in our control, and…
74 00:08:24.370 ⇒ 00:08:37.980 Demilade Agboola: At that point, we always try and do our best to either, like, make micro-adjustments on the fly, or if there’s nothing else we can do, if we’re just kind of stuck, we just kind of think of, okay, so what’s the next… how do we handle the next phase of this, and how do we ensure that that happens?
75 00:08:38.870 ⇒ 00:08:52.889 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, and I think we’re, we’re understanding of that, too. We know that this project has grown legs, and I know that Michael and Ashwini have a little bit more to just touch on to get to those deliverable marts. I just want to make sure that those happen
76 00:08:52.890 ⇒ 00:09:02.609 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): If we’re, limited to 15… 10 to 15 hours a week, we want to make sure that those marts are prioritized above the maintenance.
77 00:09:02.630 ⇒ 00:09:07.349 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Just one thing happening first, and then moving into the maintenance.
78 00:09:08.500 ⇒ 00:09:11.539 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sure, I think…
79 00:09:14.420 ⇒ 00:09:22.799 Demilade Agboola: I think we also need to, like, talk about the maths, because, like, right now, the maths are based off, like, you know, CSVs and stuff. It’s kind of like…
80 00:09:23.660 ⇒ 00:09:27.300 Demilade Agboola: a bit of a Frankenstein muster put together right now.
81 00:09:27.600 ⇒ 00:09:49.819 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, I think that’s… that’s for the MMM piece. For the Spins Marts, it should all be just from the Spins API, and I don’t have enough of the insight into exactly which filters and mart outputs that Michael needs, but he does, so I think, and he’s been sick the last two days, but, we just need Michael and Ashwini to connect on those pieces, and…
82 00:09:49.820 ⇒ 00:09:57.059 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): I think Michael’s under the impression that it, shouldn’t be a huge lift, it’s just certain filterings and outputs there.
83 00:09:57.060 ⇒ 00:09:57.640 Demilade Agboola: Good.
84 00:09:57.820 ⇒ 00:10:10.279 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): which hopefully should fall into the scope, too. I know that, Udam thought that it would be either the end of this week or the end of next week that those could be completed, so I think that would be… that works out well for us, too. I think they just need to… we need to get the two of them to connect.
85 00:10:10.500 ⇒ 00:10:14.510 Demilade Agboola: Oh, definitely, we will definitely want to do that. Again, just the thing with, like.
86 00:10:14.650 ⇒ 00:10:23.759 Demilade Agboola: the pipelines… part of the issues with the pipeline so far has not always been about the pipeline itself or the infrastructure, is that it keeps… it’s sometimes…
87 00:10:24.190 ⇒ 00:10:25.399 Demilade Agboola: Just a lot of data.
88 00:10:25.800 ⇒ 00:10:28.560 Demilade Agboola: Things keep breaking, or things keep failing, so…
89 00:10:28.730 ⇒ 00:10:35.109 Demilade Agboola: these are things that, again, we would also have to just be… like, I know it’s not a lot of lift in terms of, like.
90 00:10:35.440 ⇒ 00:10:38.180 Demilade Agboola: What we need to set up to get the data in.
91 00:10:38.300 ⇒ 00:10:46.870 Demilade Agboola: But also, you know, there are things around, like, breakages and stuff. So yeah, like, if we set up… if we start maintenance, yeah, we can start focusing on…
92 00:10:47.250 ⇒ 00:10:49.499 Demilade Agboola: Just getting the spins data in.
93 00:10:49.900 ⇒ 00:10:58.220 Demilade Agboola: I think we’ll also just, like, going forward, just have to have an idea of what
94 00:10:58.330 ⇒ 00:11:11.220 Demilade Agboola: like, in terms of… because I know, like, the other things that the Magic Spoon team wants, like, other workflows and other streams, I think it’s just been able to figure out, like, okay, so how do we fit into that, like…
95 00:11:11.850 ⇒ 00:11:13.770 Demilade Agboola: Built off of what we currently have.
96 00:11:13.930 ⇒ 00:11:15.589 Demilade Agboola: To fit into that.
97 00:11:16.150 ⇒ 00:11:28.200 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, and we know we have things on the roadmap, too. I think our just first priority is the spin smarts, and then moving into the maintenance, which we understand will take some time, and we’re comfortable with that taking time while we,
98 00:11:28.610 ⇒ 00:11:34.070 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Kind of get those building blocks in place, and then we can prioritize the rest of the work streams accordingly.
99 00:11:34.200 ⇒ 00:11:40.830 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): I think what would also be helpful for our team, too, is maybe, just so we understand,
100 00:11:40.930 ⇒ 00:11:49.250 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Where we’re at for the week, what pops… what’s popped up, if anything unexpected, and then, an understanding of our hours balance is maybe,
101 00:11:49.250 ⇒ 00:12:11.239 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): I know that, you were sending these Slack messages previously, but maybe on, like, if we’re not going to be meeting once a week, moving forward, doing, like, a Monday, Wednesday, Friday of, like, here are our priorities for the week, here are our hours balance, here’s how, like, the project’s in the queue, and how long we anticipate some of these things will take if it’s…
102 00:12:11.240 ⇒ 00:12:23.909 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Just outlining that, maybe Wednesday giving a status update, and then if something popped up, or we throw something on your plate, everyone’s kind of aware, and we have that visibility and insight into how we’re tracking against our hours.
103 00:12:25.180 ⇒ 00:12:33.029 Demilade Agboola: I have a, we’re trying to, you know, have such visibility into, like, the hours and what’s going on with that.
104 00:12:34.710 ⇒ 00:12:42.369 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): And if it’s in… I know we, got access to linear, too. If it’s easier to do that within Linear, we’re happy to…
105 00:12:42.520 ⇒ 00:12:46.919 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): To work that way, but just so… so we… we’re aware where we stand.
106 00:12:47.540 ⇒ 00:12:54.420 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so yeah, we’ll definitely try and do that. I think with… especially with, like, things around, like,
107 00:12:55.150 ⇒ 00:13:06.759 Demilade Agboola: this maintenance phase, so just generally speaking, we tend to work more as a, like, a central data team, so we tend to have, like, the full-on
108 00:13:07.020 ⇒ 00:13:14.369 Demilade Agboola: responsibilities of building and maintenance. So, maintenance is generally… How do I put it?
109 00:13:14.560 ⇒ 00:13:21.150 Demilade Agboola: It’s necessarily, like… so we have, like, we tend to create pods for different projects.
110 00:13:21.260 ⇒ 00:13:28.760 Demilade Agboola: And so we don’t necessarily have, like, a maintenance pod, per se. So, like, for every pod we create across different projects, we would have, like, a…
111 00:13:28.870 ⇒ 00:13:45.689 Demilade Agboola: you know, a client success owner, someone who’s responsible for interacting and just figuring out, like, what’s going on with clients, if everyone’s good. Same thing with, like, you have a bunch of engineers on the project, sometimes they’re not necessarily mutually exclusive, could be the same person who is, like, being an owner, as well as,
112 00:13:46.480 ⇒ 00:13:55.269 Demilade Agboola: the engineer on the project. You could also have, like, assist… like, sub-engineers or people who are in, like, support roles, just so that we have some redundancy in case someone is out sick.
113 00:13:55.410 ⇒ 00:14:05.869 Demilade Agboola: Or, in case things are going on, and we need to be able to ensure that there’s not enough knowledge on the team to be able to keep pushing the projects forward.
114 00:14:07.580 ⇒ 00:14:22.500 Demilade Agboola: I think, just generally speaking, I think with the maintenance SOW that we have, it’s going to be harder to maintain such a pod, and that’s kind of… I think that’s kind of what Utam’s trying to ensure, that, hey, we… we just have… we have enough
115 00:14:22.620 ⇒ 00:14:27.399 Demilade Agboola: Like, knowledge and hours to go around, such that,
116 00:14:28.240 ⇒ 00:14:39.990 Demilade Agboola: we can staff up the projects properly, and I understand that, like, yeah, for now, like, for the next couple, like, this workflow, we’re not trying to do that. I think the idea is just, or what we’re trying to figure out is,
117 00:14:40.200 ⇒ 00:14:56.459 Demilade Agboola: At what point do we want to initiate other workflows so that we can have an idea of what that looks like, and that allows us to be able to figure out, like, the ops team, for instance, can be able to figure out, like, resourcing and just basically understanding how that would work in the future as well.
118 00:14:58.070 ⇒ 00:14:59.070 Blueberry Muffin: Oh, that makes sense.
119 00:14:59.410 ⇒ 00:14:59.990 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
120 00:15:01.090 ⇒ 00:15:18.589 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so, like, I’m guessing… so I guess just one of those things where it’s like, hey, do we want to be maintenance for, like, 3 months, 5 months, and then we try and build off of that, or do we just want to, you know, like, are we maintenance for the foreseeable future? Like, I guess that sort of context would be very helpful.
121 00:15:18.820 ⇒ 00:15:19.599 Demilade Agboola: In terms of thought.
122 00:15:19.600 ⇒ 00:15:36.889 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, no, we do have a lot of projects in our roadmap, and I know that I’ve scoped those with, you and Utam. Right now, we don’t have the budget to expand beyond some of these right now. We will, and we, I guess certain priorities come up, but right now, it’s,
123 00:15:36.910 ⇒ 00:15:53.399 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): The priority is spins, getting our data warehouse into a more stable state, and giving us that visibility and insight, and then once we feel, feel pretty good about that, then we expect to have more capacity and more budget to scope out additional projects there.
124 00:15:53.840 ⇒ 00:16:04.270 Demilade Agboola: Okay. Alright, and so in terms of that, what does that, like, runway look like? So I can have an idea of how, like, how I’m projecting this to the ops teams, because usually I have to give feedback on to the ops.
125 00:16:04.330 ⇒ 00:16:18.660 Demilade Agboola: So is there, like, a 3-month, sort of, like, okay, so we’re scoping out for 3 months now, and at the end of 3 months, we’ll circle back and kind of, like, see how, like, what the workflow looks like, or is it more of a, like, like, just, just some sort of…
126 00:16:18.660 ⇒ 00:16:24.309 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, I think, a 3-month timeline works to then begin scoping out what the next phases are.
127 00:16:24.490 ⇒ 00:16:26.009 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sounds good then.
128 00:16:26.160 ⇒ 00:16:32.120 Demilade Agboola: Okay, that’s… that’s… that’s fine, I’ll be able to just, like, talk to Utam…
129 00:16:32.250 ⇒ 00:16:35.720 Demilade Agboola: And the other, because usually, like, we have two CEOs, so…
130 00:16:35.850 ⇒ 00:16:40.159 Demilade Agboola: Robert is the other CEO, so I’d also have to be able to, like, loop him in and have
131 00:16:40.490 ⇒ 00:16:41.460 Demilade Agboola: what’s going on.
132 00:16:41.810 ⇒ 00:16:46.990 Demilade Agboola: And then we have the obsolete, so just talk to them and be able to, like, draft up something in…
133 00:16:47.260 ⇒ 00:16:48.770 Demilade Agboola: For… in that regard.
134 00:16:49.510 ⇒ 00:16:56.279 Demilade Agboola: But I think beyond that, I think everything seems pretty clear. We’ll be looking at the, you know, 10 to 15,
135 00:16:57.020 ⇒ 00:17:00.370 Demilade Agboola: So, 10 being, like, 15 being the upper limits, basically.
136 00:17:00.730 ⇒ 00:17:02.220 Demilade Agboola: On a… on a week.
137 00:17:02.810 ⇒ 00:17:04.800 Demilade Agboola: So we’ll just look at that.
138 00:17:05.030 ⇒ 00:17:13.100 Demilade Agboola: And yeah, we’ll try and ensure that whatever, like, we’re doing for the weeks, we will scope within, that, that, that,
139 00:17:14.200 ⇒ 00:17:15.750 Demilade Agboola: That number, right?
140 00:17:16.099 ⇒ 00:17:22.800 Demilade Agboola: I do feel we will need to have conversations, and we can still have the sort of conversations around
141 00:17:22.960 ⇒ 00:17:26.889 Demilade Agboola: Mike, the first, like, maybe 2 weeks.
142 00:17:27.260 ⇒ 00:17:30.800 Demilade Agboola: will probably be for spins, or no, probably will be for spins.
143 00:17:31.090 ⇒ 00:17:34.050 Demilade Agboola: So that will look like ingesting the data.
144 00:17:34.150 ⇒ 00:17:38.719 Demilade Agboola: Is there anything beyond interesting that we’ll need for spins right now?
145 00:17:39.160 ⇒ 00:17:50.839 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): The piece that Michael holds is just the different output marks and the, certain filters for those. I think he’s imagining, like, I think it’s…
146 00:17:51.040 ⇒ 00:18:03.019 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): 4 or 6, but he has scope what those certain filters are, and he wants to be pushed out into individual marts. So I think, getting a touchpoint between Ashwini and Michael will be helpful.
147 00:18:03.470 ⇒ 00:18:08.799 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, because I also kind of had… I’ve had conversations with my uncle, and he’s… we’ve talked about some of the roadmap
148 00:18:08.990 ⇒ 00:18:15.040 Demilade Agboola: For that, and, like, it does involve, like, building out some models and, like…
149 00:18:16.730 ⇒ 00:18:19.699 Demilade Agboola: again, I think this is one of those things where, like.
150 00:18:21.020 ⇒ 00:18:28.330 Demilade Agboola: It kind of… like, when we’re talking maintenance and trying to ensure that we’re getting this done,
151 00:18:29.450 ⇒ 00:18:30.420 Demilade Agboola: I think…
152 00:18:31.250 ⇒ 00:18:37.480 Demilade Agboola: It does feel a bit, like, conflicting, because we don’t want to necessarily put out things where, like, if anything else breaks.
153 00:18:38.250 ⇒ 00:18:45.080 Demilade Agboola: we don’t want to be like, hey, we’ve used the bars for the week. I think that’s not fair. I think that’s a… like, because again, the idea is we want to be able to…
154 00:18:45.300 ⇒ 00:18:52.480 Demilade Agboola: Number one, be proactive, so that means, hey, part of maintenance for us is we go around every morning, and we’re gonna look at different systems.
155 00:18:52.700 ⇒ 00:18:54.640 Demilade Agboola: And make sure everything is running properly.
156 00:18:54.820 ⇒ 00:18:56.010 Demilade Agboola: Everything is fine.
157 00:18:56.210 ⇒ 00:19:07.059 Demilade Agboola: And then two is, like, we also need to set up alerting around that, so that we don’t… it’s not as manual… it’s not as manual process, but we could keep going around every morning.
158 00:19:07.200 ⇒ 00:19:14.929 Demilade Agboola: And so I think the question now becomes, for how long do we want to, sort of, have that, like, spins is the focus?
159 00:19:15.110 ⇒ 00:19:16.980 Demilade Agboola: And… how…
160 00:19:17.220 ⇒ 00:19:21.889 Demilade Agboola: In terms of hours split, how do we want to ensure that we still have the hours to…
161 00:19:22.530 ⇒ 00:19:26.200 Demilade Agboola: Hop in, in case things start breaking, or in case anything does go wrong.
162 00:19:26.640 ⇒ 00:19:43.460 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, I think, Spins needs to be, spins needs to be the focus. I think, with Udam’s quote, and I haven’t talked to Michael about it yet. Oh, but he is… I can see he’s in, so I can confirm with him, but that being the focus this week and the end of next week is,
163 00:19:43.540 ⇒ 00:20:04.019 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): definitely primary to make sure that we get those output marts. I think modeling beyond that is… it will be okay to pause there. Once we have those marts in the warehouse, then our team will feel comfortable, working from there. So that’s kind of what our, like, full stop is for additional spins modeling there, and then we can pivot to focus on maintenance.
164 00:20:04.320 ⇒ 00:20:04.930 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sweet.
165 00:20:04.930 ⇒ 00:20:21.650 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): We know that it’s been, it’s been a more complex project, but that is, like, the deliverable we were driving towards with our initial scope of work, so that’s what we need to have completed before we can move into maintenance. We also want to have all that visibility and alerting and those safeguards.
166 00:20:22.630 ⇒ 00:20:29.540 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good. In that case, I think what we can just do then is, I think maybe you need to, like, touch base with Michael, get an idea of what the…
167 00:20:29.800 ⇒ 00:20:34.239 Demilade Agboola: final point is, I think the final point would probably be around, like, ingesting the data.
168 00:20:34.580 ⇒ 00:20:36.940 Demilade Agboola: And I know that there are some, like.
169 00:20:38.240 ⇒ 00:20:44.210 Demilade Agboola: like, we do have some of the MMM, like, stuff. We want to be able to put some of the Spencer in.
170 00:20:44.470 ⇒ 00:20:51.910 Demilade Agboola: I’m not sure if the, like, we’ll… again, might need to just touch base on, like, what the endpoint looks like, or what the full stop looks like for this phase.
171 00:20:52.940 ⇒ 00:20:59.640 Demilade Agboola: And then, also talk about, like, we’ll then know where we need to be before we transition into maintenance.
172 00:20:59.770 ⇒ 00:21:05.459 Demilade Agboola: Also, just so… just out of curiosity, especially for a week like next week,
173 00:21:05.610 ⇒ 00:21:10.099 Demilade Agboola: Which is basically a new month, and I believe you’ll be off Orchard.
174 00:21:10.380 ⇒ 00:21:17.179 Demilade Agboola: what does that look like in terms of maintenance? Like, and I know, like, yes, spins is the priority, but do you, like.
175 00:21:17.390 ⇒ 00:21:23.579 Demilade Agboola: You still need us to be able to look around stuff every morning, right? And just be sure everything is running so you don’t send out still reports, right?
176 00:21:23.960 ⇒ 00:21:42.590 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, if there is, if something breaks right now, we would probably anticipate to be running as it currently does, so if something breaks and we need to alert, and we alert you guys, I think we would want that to be triage. So, understanding that that could push things out, but,
177 00:21:42.990 ⇒ 00:21:49.840 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yes, that will be… That… we would expect that to be your team’s responsibility for next week.
178 00:21:50.800 ⇒ 00:21:58.509 Demilade Agboola: Okay, so we will put, like, benchmark hours, or, like, some benchmark time for that, and what that would look like, just to ensure that, you know.
179 00:21:59.370 ⇒ 00:22:01.609 Demilade Agboola: Couple times in a day, we will, like.
180 00:22:02.510 ⇒ 00:22:19.189 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Yeah, I think we’re… it may not happen. I guess that’s also what we want to account for. So we want to make sure that we can make progress against spins, and if there is an outage, we would let you guys know and understand that spins might be pushed out for triaging something that comes up.
181 00:22:19.190 ⇒ 00:22:29.020 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, no, so I’m actually just speaking to right now, like, just the… going through the different systems to ensure everything works. So, like, at the beginning of the business day.
182 00:22:29.220 ⇒ 00:22:31.800 Demilade Agboola: We just… or before the business actually starts.
183 00:22:32.160 ⇒ 00:22:44.000 Demilade Agboola: going through, ensuring that everything… pipelines are running as well, as they were. And just, like, maybe in the middle or towards the end of the business, they just, again, just hop into different systems, ensuring everything is
184 00:22:44.280 ⇒ 00:22:58.070 Demilade Agboola: As it should be, so that, since we’re not setting up any alerting anytime soon, the idea is it will have to be manual checks, and we don’t want you to find out that still they are going out, so there will… there will have to be some sort of, like.
185 00:22:58.960 ⇒ 00:23:03.639 Demilade Agboola: Time for that as well, and then the rest will be for spins, basically.
186 00:23:04.270 ⇒ 00:23:21.010 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Okay, yeah, if you, if you could outline that, too, that would be helpful. Also, just in regards to a more tactical item, our final meeting, or, like, our off-boarding with Orchard, we are meeting with them on Thursday afternoon, if,
187 00:23:21.010 ⇒ 00:23:24.889 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): If your team has any, outstanding questions for them.
188 00:23:25.890 ⇒ 00:23:29.590 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, well, I’ll… so Thursday afternoon will be in tomorrow, basically.
189 00:23:30.510 ⇒ 00:23:33.149 Demilade Agboola: Yes, that is tomorrow, yeah, good week.
190 00:23:33.570 ⇒ 00:23:40.149 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, just wanted to be sure, because when you said Thursday, I wasn’t sure if it was, like, farther than… yeah, it’s tomorrow arcane, gotcha.
191 00:23:40.840 ⇒ 00:23:44.100 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): We are meeting with them at 4.30 Eastern.
192 00:23:44.360 ⇒ 00:23:55.599 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Oh, okay. Which I know is late, but that’s when we had availability. But, yeah, there… or if you have… your team has questions and you want to, send them over.
193 00:23:55.700 ⇒ 00:24:01.230 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): We can also, walk through them with Roland, if that’s easier.
194 00:24:01.560 ⇒ 00:24:07.489 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sounds good. I will circle back to the team, and I’ll let you know before, end of day.
195 00:24:08.150 ⇒ 00:24:12.039 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Okay, great. Yeah, so then, I think…
196 00:24:12.500 ⇒ 00:24:34.720 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): our pieces are, if priority being spins, then moving into maintenance, understanding there’s going to need to be some maintenance work starting up next week, once we are, no longer working with Orchard. Ashwini and Michael need a touchpoint on what those final MART deliverables are, and then, hoping for that final spins to be completed towards this week or the end of next week.
197 00:24:34.760 ⇒ 00:24:41.260 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Is, like, the thought there with what’s, outstanding? And then,
198 00:24:42.040 ⇒ 00:24:47.389 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Maybe just more, if we’re not having a weekly sync, just,
199 00:24:47.950 ⇒ 00:24:51.310 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): hours tracking in our… our Slack channel.
200 00:24:51.710 ⇒ 00:24:55.749 Demilade Agboola: Okay, alright, sounds good. I think we’re largely on the same page here.
201 00:24:56.410 ⇒ 00:24:57.370 Blueberry Muffin: Okay, awesome.
202 00:24:57.530 ⇒ 00:25:04.440 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so I’ll have to, again, just talk to the ops team, talk to Utam, and talk to Robert, but we’ll be able to get this over the line.
203 00:25:04.980 ⇒ 00:25:12.240 Speaker 1 (Blueberry Muffin): Okay, great. Yeah, let me know if there’s anything else I can, can do, or questions I can answer.
204 00:25:12.270 ⇒ 00:25:14.980 Demilade Agboola: And then I’ll make sure Ashmini and Michael get in touch today.
205 00:25:15.260 ⇒ 00:25:16.269 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good.
206 00:25:16.600 ⇒ 00:25:18.839 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, we’ll… we’ll definitely let you know.
207 00:25:19.270 ⇒ 00:25:20.820 Blueberry Muffin: Great. Thanks, Demi.
208 00:25:20.820 ⇒ 00:25:21.410 Demilade Agboola: Bye.
209 00:25:21.440 ⇒ 00:25:22.500 Blueberry Muffin: See ya.