Meeting Title: Lilo Social x Brainforge: Project Sync Date: 2026-02-13 Meeting participants: Pranav Narahari, Uttam Kumaran, Bobby Palmieri, zacfromson
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1 00:00:29.740 ⇒ 00:00:30.830 Uttam Kumaran: Hi, sir.
2 00:00:35.820 ⇒ 00:00:37.630 Pranav Narahari: Hello, hello. What’s up?
3 00:00:38.310 ⇒ 00:00:39.430 Uttam Kumaran: How’s everything?
4 00:00:40.140 ⇒ 00:00:42.569 Pranav Narahari: Things are good, things are good. How’s it going for you?
5 00:00:42.570 ⇒ 00:00:45.230 Uttam Kumaran: What’s the, what’s the, hoodie? What does the hoodie say?
6 00:00:45.880 ⇒ 00:00:51.959 Pranav Narahari: Hoodie, it says, it’s like this YouTuber, who’s doing, like, this brain cancer thing. It says, do what excites.
7 00:00:52.140 ⇒ 00:00:52.860 Pranav Narahari: Who’s it?
8 00:00:52.860 ⇒ 00:00:53.510 Uttam Kumaran: Uber.
9 00:00:55.230 ⇒ 00:00:56.670 Pranav Narahari: Heli Wakasa.
10 00:00:57.230 ⇒ 00:00:58.889 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I don’t know.
11 00:00:58.890 ⇒ 00:01:06.090 Pranav Narahari: I’m gonna be honest, I’m not, like, I don’t watch a lot of his content, but the brain cancer thing was, like, very interesting for me, so I was like, let me get it.
12 00:01:06.090 ⇒ 00:01:06.600 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
13 00:01:07.330 ⇒ 00:01:08.210 Pranav Narahari: I realized after.
14 00:01:08.210 ⇒ 00:01:08.689 Uttam Kumaran: Nice, I don’t.
15 00:01:08.690 ⇒ 00:01:12.760 Pranav Narahari: I want to wear a sweatshirt that says, do what excites in public, so I just wear it at home.
16 00:01:13.600 ⇒ 00:01:19.360 Pranav Narahari: It’s like, it’s such a shame, because it’s, like, such a.
17 00:01:19.360 ⇒ 00:01:21.170 Uttam Kumaran: I didn’t even think about that, dude.
18 00:01:21.460 ⇒ 00:01:23.100 Pranav Narahari: Yeah.
19 00:01:24.800 ⇒ 00:01:25.720 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, Bobby.
20 00:01:26.140 ⇒ 00:01:27.020 Pranav Narahari: Hey, Bobby.
21 00:01:27.330 ⇒ 00:01:27.940 Bobby Palmieri: Sorry.
22 00:01:27.940 ⇒ 00:01:41.370 Uttam Kumaran: just making fun of Pranav’s shirt says, do what excites, and I was like, oh, it’s like a YouTuber. And he was like, yeah, but I just don’t feel comfortable wearing it outside. And I’m like, yeah, I guess I didn’t even think about it, but yeah.
23 00:01:42.560 ⇒ 00:01:45.629 Uttam Kumaran: It looks like a comfortable… it looks like a thick, comfortable hoodie, so…
24 00:01:45.630 ⇒ 00:01:55.460 Pranav Narahari: It’s so comfortable. It’s, like, perfect when I’m, like, at my laptop, just, like, coding all day, just, like, on Slack, like, it’s so comfortable. Cool. It’s just a shame I gotta take it off when I leave.
25 00:01:57.050 ⇒ 00:02:05.879 Uttam Kumaran: Awesome. Okay, cool, we can jump right into things. I think, Bobby, really, like, this is… this meeting, I just wanted to align on, like, where we’re at, like, plan for next month, but also, like.
26 00:02:06.680 ⇒ 00:02:09.940 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of give you some insight into, like, what we’ve accomplished, and, like.
27 00:02:10.190 ⇒ 00:02:17.720 Uttam Kumaran: I know we… we sort of bumped from 10 to 20K, so I want to kind of give you a sense of, like, what did we get? What did Lilo get for that, and then what’s on the roadmap? So…
28 00:02:17.990 ⇒ 00:02:20.489 Uttam Kumaran: you know, I think this is really…
29 00:02:20.750 ⇒ 00:02:27.669 Uttam Kumaran: like, the, the highlights, so kind of like, I mean, I can’t… again, we kind of can’t… sorry, I can’t… yeah, go ahead.
30 00:02:27.670 ⇒ 00:02:30.179 Bobby Palmieri: One second, I think Zach wants to be a part of this conversation.
31 00:02:30.180 ⇒ 00:02:31.690 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, yeah, no problem, no problem.
32 00:02:31.690 ⇒ 00:02:33.380 Bobby Palmieri: Is he on the invite, Pranav?
33 00:02:34.010 ⇒ 00:02:34.850 Uttam Kumaran: I’m curious.
34 00:02:34.850 ⇒ 00:02:36.009 Pranav Narahari: He accepted, too.
35 00:02:36.010 ⇒ 00:02:39.229 Bobby Palmieri: Okay, cool. Let me just ping him, I just don’t want you to have to repeat yourself.
36 00:02:39.230 ⇒ 00:02:40.619 Uttam Kumaran: No, he’s on. Zach’s here.
37 00:02:40.820 ⇒ 00:02:41.740 zacfromson: Cool.
38 00:02:41.740 ⇒ 00:02:55.380 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Well, like, just, like, the last 15 seconds is, like, we’re just gonna go through, like, what’s been done, like, kind of, like, what the 10 to 20K bump sort of, like, bought Lilo, and, like, okay, what’s on the roadmap, and then sort of a line on, like.
39 00:02:55.510 ⇒ 00:03:02.859 Uttam Kumaran: where is this gonna go? So, like, kind of just, like, highlighting one, you know, I think just a short while ago, sort of came in.
40 00:03:03.660 ⇒ 00:03:18.299 Uttam Kumaran: sort of moved the platform to sort of a new setup, kind of took over from the last partners, built out, like, sort of the basics on, like, a great framework, started going through MCP, the admin settings, and then sort of now drove through, like.
41 00:03:19.070 ⇒ 00:03:27.660 Uttam Kumaran: the core platform’s set up, chat is set up, settings are set up, now let’s build the features. So, like, we went through the revenue forecasting, we went through the nanobanana tool.
42 00:03:27.970 ⇒ 00:03:40.010 Uttam Kumaran: you know, I think additionally, for me, one thing I stressed to Pranav, you know, even this year, especially across all our clients, is, like, Slack, I think, is going to be a huge part, so we tried really hard to prioritize, like.
43 00:03:40.060 ⇒ 00:03:46.440 Uttam Kumaran: everything should have, like, a corollary in Slack, like, a report and things like that, and so…
44 00:03:46.450 ⇒ 00:04:00.709 Uttam Kumaran: And then, really, it’s all the things around, like, okay, how are we making sure we’re just on track? So I think in the last, like, you know, 4 weeks, I feel like I’ve, you know, we talk internally every day. I think we’ve been… we’re really cruising through. I think… also, what’s awesome is, like, I think you guys
45 00:04:00.890 ⇒ 00:04:12.960 Uttam Kumaran: be the vision of, like, probably what we said in January, which is, like, pushing, like, the PRs, and then our team sort of just, like, take it to the finish line. I hope, like, that’s now a little bit more clear on, like, kind of the way in which we set it up, so, like.
46 00:04:13.090 ⇒ 00:04:17.080 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s really awesome. So, like, in terms of…
47 00:04:17.230 ⇒ 00:04:30.450 Uttam Kumaran: I think where we are in terms of, like, our team is, like, we’ve used sort of, like, around, like, 260 hours on our side since Jan 1, which puts us basically, like, 150 hours… 150 an hour. To give you context, like.
48 00:04:31.190 ⇒ 00:04:48.669 Uttam Kumaran: we basically… that’s our, like, sort of entry point, is we bill, like, $150 for sort of, like, normal engineers, and then it sort of goes up from there. So I think this is actually, like… I feel like we’re kind of on track. Typically, when we try to propose a monthly fee, it’s actually, like, a much better deal, because
49 00:04:48.850 ⇒ 00:05:01.600 Uttam Kumaran: If we were to bill hourly, and we would split across, like, my time, Pranav’s time, Sam’s time, Casey’s time, like, I… this would definitely be higher. So I feel pretty good on my side. I think maybe I’ll just pause there and, like.
50 00:05:02.340 ⇒ 00:05:08.169 Uttam Kumaran: Given all of that, like, just rough feedback from you guys on, like, how things are going, we have some follow-up questions here.
51 00:05:08.320 ⇒ 00:05:11.710 Uttam Kumaran: To ask, but, like, yeah, maybe just start there.
52 00:05:11.710 ⇒ 00:05:12.690 Bobby Palmieri: Yeah,
53 00:05:13.020 ⇒ 00:05:18.970 Bobby Palmieri: I think just to start, I think we’re super happy. And I think, like, where the product is, like.
54 00:05:19.090 ⇒ 00:05:23.689 Bobby Palmieri: we’re… we’re super excited. I think that we…
55 00:05:24.110 ⇒ 00:05:33.590 Bobby Palmieri: are definitely, like, if we weren’t already fully in sprint mode of, like, having a lot of things stood up, and I think, honestly, like.
56 00:05:33.590 ⇒ 00:05:48.149 Bobby Palmieri: getting Cloud Code set up for me, I think will be a huge unlock, which it already is, not saying that’s future state. Like, I think just being able to, like, get Casey the email generator, get, you know, the meta dashboard, like, you know, I think we need
57 00:05:48.160 ⇒ 00:05:52.200 Bobby Palmieri: more of that, and Pranav, I think on our next call, want to chat about, like.
58 00:05:54.590 ⇒ 00:06:04.219 Bobby Palmieri: where I pass things to you, and then where you pass it back, and then, like, how we set up, like, different environments. I’d like to really be doing one of two things, like, either
59 00:06:04.470 ⇒ 00:06:10.770 Bobby Palmieri: creating an MVP of a new feature, or finalizing a… current feature, so, like.
60 00:06:10.870 ⇒ 00:06:14.439 Bobby Palmieri: you know, I think what Casey pushed today for…
61 00:06:14.490 ⇒ 00:06:24.590 Bobby Palmieri: the email calendar, like, to me, that’s probably at a point where, like, I’d just like for him, like, to kick it back, and I can just do, like, the last changes.
62 00:06:24.590 ⇒ 00:06:34.710 Bobby Palmieri: So that’s kind of how I’m looking at… at that. I think, like, the… why we wanted to regroup on this call is, one, just to regroup, but two, I think just, like, better understand, like.
63 00:06:34.710 ⇒ 00:06:37.210 Bobby Palmieri: What’s the roadmap, and like, what are we paying for
64 00:06:37.450 ⇒ 00:06:41.689 Bobby Palmieri: And that’s not a… like, that…
65 00:06:42.010 ⇒ 00:06:59.540 Bobby Palmieri: That question is, like, the wrong worded question. I don’t think we’re, like, questioning hours or anything here. I think we want to just be clear on, like, hey, do we need to do another 20K this month? Do we need to do another 30K? Should it be 7K, right? Sure. And, like, trying to understand
66 00:06:59.720 ⇒ 00:07:14.629 Bobby Palmieri: from our end, like, what the resourcing is, looking back at, like, you know, what we initially thought we would get for $30K compared to, like, the initial stuff, and I know a lot of stuff has, like, changed and flipped, and, like, there’s other features that we’ve built out and things like that, too.
67 00:07:14.850 ⇒ 00:07:19.489 Bobby Palmieri: I think just, like, moving forward, and I’ll let Zach chime in in a moment, but, like.
68 00:07:19.730 ⇒ 00:07:24.319 Bobby Palmieri: I think we just want to know, like, hey, if we’re gonna go next month with another 20K,
69 00:07:24.620 ⇒ 00:07:28.959 Bobby Palmieri: what is that roadmap, and what are we getting? With, like, us having to plug code, does that…
70 00:07:28.960 ⇒ 00:07:48.150 zacfromson: better job of a backlog. I think we’ve been a little scattered and sporadic at times, and I think I wanted to get a little bit more, like, this is what we’re doing, and, like, when Bobby has a new idea tomorrow, like, it’s just gonna have to fucking wait, kind of thing. Just, like, this is kind of what we want to do, and, like, here’s our priority list of our backlog, and then be like, alright guys, like, this is what we want to do, like…
71 00:07:49.790 ⇒ 00:07:51.569 zacfromson: What can we get done this month?
72 00:07:51.570 ⇒ 00:07:52.030 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
73 00:07:52.030 ⇒ 00:07:54.410 zacfromson: For 20, what can we get done for 10?
74 00:07:54.410 ⇒ 00:07:54.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
75 00:07:54.740 ⇒ 00:08:15.339 zacfromson: tab here could get all done, so I think we just, like, have no visibility forward. I think there’s some things that didn’t get done that was in the initial scope of work. I think to Bobby’s point, like, maybe we shifted some stuff, or, like, a couple of loose ends that might still need to get tied in and up. I know, like, the admin dashboard was one thing that hasn’t gotten done. I think forecasting still needs to have, like, the model behind it that we had discussed. It’s, like, visually there, but, like, it isn’t.
76 00:08:15.340 ⇒ 00:08:16.440 zacfromson: Actually.
77 00:08:16.440 ⇒ 00:08:22.240 zacfromson: forecasting, to some extent. So I know there’s, like, a couple, like, loose ends to finish up, and then, like, hey, we have a bunch of…
78 00:08:22.240 ⇒ 00:08:34.339 zacfromson: Updates, fixes, changes, new features, and just trying to map out, like, what we’re doing, and, like, just how we get, like, a better next 30 or longer days mapped out.
79 00:08:34.340 ⇒ 00:08:43.610 zacfromson: So we do this monthly and reset that, or if we can map out, hey, we have 60 days worth of stuff, and then, like, what do we need to do to get that done? Okay. Against that, I think it’s probably, like…
80 00:08:43.740 ⇒ 00:08:55.000 Bobby Palmieri: Yeah, like, if it’s… like, look, if we’re… I guess what we’re trying to figure out, like, are we paying hourly, are we paying on a feature basis, right?
81 00:08:55.340 ⇒ 00:09:03.759 Bobby Palmieri: doesn’t matter to us one way or the other, as long as it’s clear, and then it’s like, hey, I think we probably need a little bit of a better, like.
82 00:09:03.970 ⇒ 00:09:10.960 Bobby Palmieri: tracker. I think things are moving fast on our end, and, you know, week to week it can change, but, like, I think we need to know
83 00:09:11.830 ⇒ 00:09:23.359 Bobby Palmieri: what we’re prioritizing and where that falls. So, like, I sent through the talk of just, like, some admin changes of, like, admin settings, like, we want to be able to schedule prompts to send to Slack, right? Like…
84 00:09:23.490 ⇒ 00:09:28.570 Bobby Palmieri: hey, we have, you know, this month we have… let’s just say, you know, it’s January, so… or…
85 00:09:28.570 ⇒ 00:09:29.220 Uttam Kumaran: Sure.
86 00:09:29.220 ⇒ 00:09:33.359 Bobby Palmieri: you know, it’s 263 hours that we have in February, or whatever it is, right?
87 00:09:33.360 ⇒ 00:09:35.610 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Here’s how it’s gonna be split up among.
88 00:09:35.610 ⇒ 00:09:51.980 Bobby Palmieri: Or just, like, as I put in new requests in, like, a Google Sheet, you guys can be like, hey, this is, like, a 6-hour estimate. Maybe it’s 4, maybe it’s 8 by the time with it, but, like, I think we just want to be able to, like, say, like, hey, I actually, like, yeah, so all of these things are important to get done.
89 00:09:52.000 ⇒ 00:09:55.889 Bobby Palmieri: But I think we’d prefer a better way to kind of, like.
90 00:09:56.260 ⇒ 00:10:01.849 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, back to the tickets himself, yeah. So on our side internally, everything is ticket-based, so we actually have
91 00:10:01.990 ⇒ 00:10:13.319 Uttam Kumaran: all of the linear tickets on our side. I think we could do a better job of just surfacing that in the weekly calls and showing, like, how features are getting broken up. I think one piece is that from the original scope, is that
92 00:10:13.430 ⇒ 00:10:21.329 Uttam Kumaran: these… it’s just, like, an estimation. So, even originally, we only knew what we knew. And so, one thing I will say is it’s…
93 00:10:21.930 ⇒ 00:10:33.409 Uttam Kumaran: we are doing our best to estimate, but things just take longer as we come through the wash, and so one thing that I will say is we can totally do a better job of showing how, when we get a feature request, we break it down to tickets, and we give
94 00:10:33.470 ⇒ 00:10:46.609 Uttam Kumaran: conservative and, like, liberal estimate on, like, the hours. I think similarly, Zach, it’s like, for 20K, the reason why we do… like, so kind of the options that we price at is either we do hourly, or we do sort of fixed monthly.
95 00:10:46.610 ⇒ 00:11:03.999 Uttam Kumaran: Typically, on the fixed monthly, we make less per hour, but it is just more consistent for everybody involved and, like, how much it’s gonna cost. And then we manage the hours internally, like, Pranav manages the hours. We roughly have a guide towards, like, what we’re trying to do as a business. If… I will say, if we were to get a price this hourly.
96 00:11:04.000 ⇒ 00:11:13.409 Uttam Kumaran: we can… it’ll just take us longer to, like, get those estimates, and then certainly, like, there’s gonna be broader fluctuations in the cost. So that’s just the two options. We don’t do feature…
97 00:11:13.450 ⇒ 00:11:18.179 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a little bit tougher to do, like, this ticket is gonna be, like, 300 bucks, like, it’s… it’s, like, too…
98 00:11:18.230 ⇒ 00:11:27.790 Uttam Kumaran: too granular, but I kind of, like, that’s sort of, like, how we do our model. So one thing we can do is, like, maybe going into each month.
99 00:11:27.800 ⇒ 00:11:40.239 Uttam Kumaran: we can give you, here is our plan, here’s what the asks are. The one thing I told Pranav, though, is, like, this has been a fairly, like, heavy ad hoc, like, project, where I think because of all the things we’re doing.
100 00:11:40.380 ⇒ 00:11:47.370 Uttam Kumaran: it sort of shifts from, like, work that’s planned, and then, like, you know, 30-40% work that’s ad hoc, so how would you like us to…
101 00:11:47.370 ⇒ 00:11:48.880 zacfromson: Kind of two things to deal with that.
102 00:11:48.880 ⇒ 00:11:49.749 Uttam Kumaran: Or, or, like, sort of.
103 00:11:49.750 ⇒ 00:12:06.329 zacfromson: I personally want to be more structured. I think, you know, Bobby’s been throwing a lot of… we need this, I need that, and I think, like, to personally, I guess it’s, like, for me and Bobby to kind of work out here between us, but I personally, I think now that we’re getting to a good… like, he desperately wanted LLM up, and he desperately wants forecasting. I think everything else beyond that, like.
104 00:12:06.350 ⇒ 00:12:15.380 zacfromson: you know, I think there’s other things that are being spun up. Like, we have, like, the calendar generator. I think there’s a lot of stuff fast, but I think, like, we just need to take a breath and be like, hey, like, a lot has really been done, and…
105 00:12:16.020 ⇒ 00:12:20.829 zacfromson: you know, what, 60, 75 days here? I’d say even December was kind of like a…
106 00:12:21.330 ⇒ 00:12:21.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
107 00:12:21.800 ⇒ 00:12:38.000 zacfromson: month, quite frankly, so it’s like, you know, maybe in 60 days, we do have quite a bit of shit stood up. And I think we kind of need to just take a breath and be like, hey, like, we just need to wait 30 days to get this done, and like, stop. Okay. I think you guys will be more productive if we’re not having you change gears every other day, and we probably will end up getting more done.
108 00:12:38.300 ⇒ 00:12:58.139 zacfromson: faster than we would if Bobby comes up with a new feature every day, and that’s the new next priority, and we’re not done with other things. So I’d love to have, like, you know, work with you guys on a monthly product roadmap, get the Gantt chart together, and then we just work through that, and then, like, anything else just needs to get punted. Maybe we, like, leave a couple of hours away for, like, hey, we need, like, a bug fix or a feature.
109 00:12:58.140 ⇒ 00:12:58.580 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
110 00:12:58.580 ⇒ 00:13:01.590 zacfromson: That’s something existing to, like, have some improvements, but…
111 00:13:01.670 ⇒ 00:13:20.859 zacfromson: I would rather just be like, alright, this month, this is what we’re doing, next month we’re doing that, and then come the end of the month, it’s done. Okay. Like, a lot’s gonna be accomplished, we just need to have a little bit more patience. I don’t know if you feel any differently, Bobby, but I think that would just get us to a better ebb and flow of, like, what we’re gonna accomplish, and be a little, like, shiny object focused.
112 00:13:21.020 ⇒ 00:13:24.639 Bobby Palmieri: Yeah, I guess… I guess the way I see it working is, like.
113 00:13:25.080 ⇒ 00:13:29.090 Bobby Palmieri: whether it’s a Google Sheet or something else that you guys prefer, of just, like.
114 00:13:29.520 ⇒ 00:13:33.800 Bobby Palmieri: A backlog that everyone can, like, drag things up to the top of, like.
115 00:13:33.800 ⇒ 00:13:34.350 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
116 00:13:34.350 ⇒ 00:13:40.200 Bobby Palmieri: pull from the top a ticket and, like, work on that. Like, you know, I think Zach and I can…
117 00:13:40.200 ⇒ 00:13:49.960 Bobby Palmieri: align on what should be at the top, that’s for us to worry about, not… not you guys to, you know… and maybe, you know, you come in on Monday, and, like, we say, hey, the…
118 00:13:49.960 ⇒ 00:14:00.909 Bobby Palmieri: you know, most important thing is, like, switching from dark mode to light mode, and, like, that’s… I’m gonna give an hour estimate, don’t… but, like, let’s just say that’s 2 hours, like, that’s where the next 2 hours goes, but, like.
119 00:14:00.910 ⇒ 00:14:13.839 Uttam Kumaran: A long time for light of the dark. I see, I hear you, though. So I think that’s on our side, is, like, this is where it’s, like, even for us to hear, like, hey, manage us up a little bit, and, like, don’t just, like, say yes, maybe show us the trade-off.
120 00:14:13.930 ⇒ 00:14:27.870 Uttam Kumaran: That’s what… that’s what we can do. And so we can totally expose what’s in linear. We can also come to the… on the week and be like, hey, this is what we’re fixed for the week. We are always, typically, as engineers, gonna budget for, like, 20% ad hoc, is typically guidance.
121 00:14:27.960 ⇒ 00:14:42.319 Uttam Kumaran: this has been, Zach, as you said, a lot of ad hoc, and you’re right in that, like, the day-to-day changes will affect, sort of, our pace. So one thing we could just do a better job on our side is, like, manage up and share, like, hey, this request is gonna affect this.
122 00:14:42.740 ⇒ 00:14:44.180 Uttam Kumaran: Good, yes or no?
123 00:14:44.430 ⇒ 00:14:51.090 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, do that, like, more often. And then come to the weekly meetings with, like, here’s how we’re progressing on our month plan.
124 00:14:51.230 ⇒ 00:14:59.160 Uttam Kumaran: especially now, I think the last two months was, like, a lot of catch-up, and then, like, new features. I think now, as you mentioned, like, I feel like we’re fairly stable on our pace.
125 00:14:59.710 ⇒ 00:15:01.279 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, we can… we can do that.
126 00:15:01.280 ⇒ 00:15:11.739 zacfromson: Velocity is certainly up, and I think, like, you know, Bobby being able to, I think, get things… like, the fact that we stood up, like, I mean, we basically built Raylion, which is, like, a competing product, and, you know, we…
127 00:15:11.740 ⇒ 00:15:12.260 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
128 00:15:12.570 ⇒ 00:15:29.449 zacfromson: Right, like, that’s an awesome upscale, that’s, like, an awesome feature, right? Like, that’s, you know, like, you know, not completely done, but, like, you know, what we accomplished on that generator in that short period of time. It’s like, you know, maybe we still need another week or two worth of work to kind of, like, some hours worth over the next couple weeks to, like, refine it, but, like…
129 00:15:29.450 ⇒ 00:15:29.870 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.
130 00:15:29.870 ⇒ 00:15:54.440 zacfromson: in a matter of a month, we just, like, knocked off a product, and that’s just, like, one aspect of what we’re doing. So, yeah, I mean, I think we’re feeling it, we’re seeing the velocity increase, and I think just getting a better… we just need to… we just need to get a true backlog, because right now, I think we don’t even have the backlog, and, like, we just need to get… we need to do a better webinar, and again, getting you guys a backlog, you guys being like, okay, like, here’s your backlog, this is what we… what we can chat… we’ll set a priority list, then you guys can have, like, this is what we can get done this month, and then if we have priorities change, me, Bobby can discuss that, and…
131 00:15:54.440 ⇒ 00:16:06.399 zacfromson: consult with you guys on making some changes to that, but I think that would just get us in a better, more organized ebb and flow, just to process through things, and the expectations are also set for you and for us, of like, alright, this is the plan for the month, here’s my hours estimate.
132 00:16:06.490 ⇒ 00:16:07.220 zacfromson: Let’s go.
133 00:16:07.220 ⇒ 00:16:07.790 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
134 00:16:07.990 ⇒ 00:16:08.809 zacfromson: So, should be easy.
135 00:16:08.810 ⇒ 00:16:21.009 Uttam Kumaran: And then, so let’s… let’s plan on that, and then on the pricing side, like, I think there’s kind of two ways we can do it. We can… we could try to come at the… basically, like, the last week of the month, be like, here’s the backlog, here’s what we estimate the hours are gonna take.
136 00:16:21.150 ⇒ 00:16:37.190 Uttam Kumaran: And like, in terms of contract, we can basically just set a cap, and then it’s a decision on kind of going into the month. So maybe I’ll put some… I’ll kind of update this doc with some of our chat today, and then we’ll kind of do that going into March. So hopefully by, like, next week, we’ll sort of have a conversation around
137 00:16:37.350 ⇒ 00:16:39.300 Uttam Kumaran: March backlog, if that works.
138 00:16:41.200 ⇒ 00:16:43.380 Bobby Palmieri: Oh, yeah, I think, on…
139 00:16:43.750 ⇒ 00:16:50.890 Bobby Palmieri: Zach and I have a standing meeting every night at 8, so I think we can, you know, kind of align… Okay, okay.
140 00:16:50.890 ⇒ 00:17:05.319 Bobby Palmieri: that is in, we can, you know, I think Zach and I can, you know, sort our differences out at 8pm every night, in terms of, like, what’s the next priority for you guys. But I think just having a visual
141 00:17:06.359 ⇒ 00:17:09.169 Bobby Palmieri: spot for us to be like, hey, here’s everything, like…
142 00:17:09.390 ⇒ 00:17:11.740 Bobby Palmieri: We’ll keep you guys until… till…
143 00:17:11.740 ⇒ 00:17:22.869 Uttam Kumaran: We can… we have that on ours, we just… we’ll just expose that. I mean, yeah, we’ll… we… we’ll just show you guys how our linear board looks. We can invite you there. You’ll be able to be in… click on tickets, see the progress, see the PR associated.
144 00:17:23.060 ⇒ 00:17:25.730 Uttam Kumaran: update priority. So, totally.
145 00:17:26.250 ⇒ 00:17:26.920 Bobby Palmieri: Cool.
146 00:17:27.180 ⇒ 00:17:28.659 Bobby Palmieri: I think I feel good about that.
147 00:17:29.070 ⇒ 00:17:34.339 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. All right, Pranav, then maybe me and you can chat later today, we can sort of get this organized, but perfect, okay.
148 00:17:34.340 ⇒ 00:17:35.650 Pranav Narahari: Cool. Sounds good.
149 00:17:37.400 ⇒ 00:17:38.339 Pranav Narahari: Next chance.
150 00:17:38.340 ⇒ 00:17:39.430 zacfromson: Okay.
151 00:17:39.430 ⇒ 00:17:40.829 Bobby Palmieri: We’re not done with us, I’ll see you in a sec.
152 00:17:40.830 ⇒ 00:17:41.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.