Meeting Title: Element Project Updates and Planning Date: 2026-02-12 Meeting participants: Brylle Girang, Mustafa Raja, Uttam Kumaran, Greg Stoutenburg, Rico Rejoso, Robert Tseng, Amber Lin
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1 00:03:12.470 ⇒ 00:03:13.370 Uttam Kumaran: Hey guys.
2 00:03:17.480 ⇒ 00:03:18.489 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how are you?
3 00:03:21.780 ⇒ 00:03:22.880 Uttam Kumaran: Good.
4 00:03:23.860 ⇒ 00:03:24.570 Greg Stoutenburg: Hey, y’all.
5 00:03:25.350 ⇒ 00:03:26.030 Uttam Kumaran: A…
6 00:03:55.810 ⇒ 00:04:00.680 Robert Tseng: Whoa, is it… how do you say your name? Is it… Brill.
7 00:04:01.040 ⇒ 00:04:02.110 Brylle Girang: It’s Brile.
8 00:04:02.670 ⇒ 00:04:04.459 Robert Tseng: Bryle. Okay, sorry.
9 00:04:04.960 ⇒ 00:04:09.259 Brylle Girang: It’s okay. Everyone calls me Brill the first two days, so…
10 00:04:10.110 ⇒ 00:04:13.919 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, it’s a unique name, I’ve never, never seen a name like that before.
11 00:04:14.440 ⇒ 00:04:15.999 Brylle Girang: Me too, me too.
12 00:04:16.000 ⇒ 00:04:19.420 Uttam Kumaran: Haha, me too! Yeah.
13 00:04:19.630 ⇒ 00:04:23.730 Uttam Kumaran: Welcome to the club! Welcome to the pronunciation Club!
14 00:04:26.180 ⇒ 00:04:30.239 Brylle Girang: Substitute Teacher Pronunciation Club. I was just talking…
15 00:04:30.750 ⇒ 00:04:37.359 Brylle Girang: I was just talking with Samuel on the earlier meeting, and he hesitated calling me by my first name.
16 00:04:37.530 ⇒ 00:04:39.059 Brylle Girang: He was really careful.
17 00:04:39.620 ⇒ 00:04:43.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, I could see… I could totally see Sam doing that.
18 00:04:44.790 ⇒ 00:04:48.779 Robert Tseng: I just kind of go for it, and if I’m wrong, then I just hope that you correct me.
19 00:04:50.270 ⇒ 00:04:55.740 Uttam Kumaran: I ask… I don’t know, I feel bad. I just, like, try to ask.
20 00:04:55.890 ⇒ 00:05:02.850 Uttam Kumaran: But I… because I’m like, how can I… people messed up my name for so long, I’m like, I might as well just ask and pronounce it.
21 00:05:03.470 ⇒ 00:05:10.009 Uttam Kumaran: But you also find that people who have weird names, they don’t… they don’t actually care, they’ve just been beaten… it’s just beaten out of them, so…
22 00:05:10.540 ⇒ 00:05:11.010 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
23 00:05:11.010 ⇒ 00:05:17.210 Uttam Kumaran: Like, just say anything. Like, I don’t… I really don’t care at all, so I’m just… I care about…
24 00:05:18.060 ⇒ 00:05:21.480 Uttam Kumaran: Whatever helps a company, so… my name, you can say whatever.
25 00:05:23.530 ⇒ 00:05:26.820 Greg Stoutenburg: Not, like, whatever, though. Not, like, anything.
26 00:05:26.820 ⇒ 00:05:38.040 Uttam Kumaran: I… I mean, yeah, whatever you want. I don’t… I’m really just am here to… here to do my job. I could be Greg. If you want to call me Greg, I can go by Greg.
27 00:05:38.740 ⇒ 00:05:40.390 Greg Stoutenburg: No, there’s already too many Greg’s, we covered that.
28 00:05:45.930 ⇒ 00:05:46.500 Robert Tseng: Alright, Zach.
29 00:05:46.500 ⇒ 00:05:59.040 Greg Stoutenburg: I will write down my last name, and then someone will copy it down wrong, and it’s always been that way. They’ll write ERG, which is, like, understandable, but it’s also like, like, but I wrote it, and you just had to look at it. You don’t even have to say it.
30 00:06:04.280 ⇒ 00:06:04.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
31 00:06:06.010 ⇒ 00:06:09.399 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. Well, we were saying that…
32 00:06:09.600 ⇒ 00:06:18.540 Robert Tseng: I mean, we’ll go through the… we have probably a couple quick updates, and then probably end up using more of this time for Element moving forward, and so…
33 00:06:19.140 ⇒ 00:06:22.269 Robert Tseng: Until we have too many things to talk about.
34 00:06:22.550 ⇒ 00:06:29.030 Robert Tseng: So… maybe we’ll start with anything that’s not element, and then the non-element people can kind of drop afterwards.
35 00:06:30.990 ⇒ 00:06:32.320 Greg Stoutenburg: I can go with default.
36 00:06:32.630 ⇒ 00:06:33.300 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
37 00:06:34.160 ⇒ 00:06:45.259 Greg Stoutenburg: Still working on the tracking plan. The tracking plan is actually, it’s… there’s a couple things I have to round out, but it’s basically complete for everything that they have designs for that they know is even close to getting ready to ship.
38 00:06:45.260 ⇒ 00:07:10.250 Greg Stoutenburg: Nandika has started using auto-tracked events to create some custom event… custom events that are going to be part of workflows that we do care about. I talked to her about making sure that we have Mustafa review those things, because she’s just sort of, you know, taking auto-click… auto-track stuff and then giving it a name. So we still want to make sure that, you know, the code that we’re looking at is right. The timeline, she said, now looks like maybe beginning of March.
39 00:07:10.250 ⇒ 00:07:16.469 Greg Stoutenburg: that anything is actually going to go live for Phoenix, so we’re still in this position of, just needing to be in touch.
40 00:07:16.470 ⇒ 00:07:28.090 Greg Stoutenburg: daily, or every other day, about what the status is of anything going live with Phoenix, and trying to be responsive to… to that, and, you know, ship what we can where we can. But,
41 00:07:28.090 ⇒ 00:07:37.329 Greg Stoutenburg: It looks like by the end of the week, early next week, we will have… we will have some sort of chart that’s in posthog, that we can go, right, here’s event data that’s coming in.
42 00:07:37.480 ⇒ 00:07:39.720 Greg Stoutenburg: From… from default.
43 00:07:41.020 ⇒ 00:07:41.570 Robert Tseng: Okay.
44 00:07:42.630 ⇒ 00:07:48.359 Robert Tseng: So she’s actually doing, the instrumentation herself, or I mean, it sounds like it’s an auto tracker, but…
45 00:07:48.770 ⇒ 00:08:04.180 Greg Stoutenburg: I mean, yeah, I mean, really what I think is going on is just she was eager to use Post Hogs, sort of, you know, user-friendly, like, you open the toolbar, you can click on something on a page, it’ll say, you know, this is the element name, do you want to create an event from it? Yes, I’ll call this event, you know, CTA, click, home page, whatever.
46 00:08:04.180 ⇒ 00:08:15.959 Greg Stoutenburg: And now that shows up, but it’s just an element that’s on a page somewhere. It’s not mapped to any other events. So she started doing some things like that, and so basically we agreed.
47 00:08:16.030 ⇒ 00:08:26.590 Greg Stoutenburg: that’s fine to go ahead and do that, but let’s make sure that we have Mustafa review anything that you are creating, so we’ll look at all the events that end up in the catalog, and make sure that we’re tracking the right stuff in the right way.
48 00:08:27.590 ⇒ 00:08:30.180 Robert Tseng: I don’t have any objection to her creating events that way.
49 00:08:34.480 ⇒ 00:08:34.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
50 00:08:35.190 ⇒ 00:08:35.940 Robert Tseng: Okay.
51 00:08:39.090 ⇒ 00:08:42.880 Greg Stoutenburg: That’s it. And then I’ve just got Eden, so I can stick around or drop.
52 00:08:43.880 ⇒ 00:08:44.700 Greg Stoutenburg: Dean’s later.
53 00:08:44.700 ⇒ 00:08:45.340 Robert Tseng: Okay.
54 00:08:45.670 ⇒ 00:08:46.300 Greg Stoutenburg: Yep.
55 00:08:49.630 ⇒ 00:08:50.920 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else?
56 00:08:54.140 ⇒ 00:08:57.390 Robert Tseng: No, I think we’ve just been talking about default and element on these calls, so…
57 00:08:57.390 ⇒ 00:08:57.730 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
58 00:08:57.730 ⇒ 00:08:58.670 Robert Tseng: We can make development.
59 00:08:58.670 ⇒ 00:09:00.819 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so on the element side,
60 00:09:01.570 ⇒ 00:09:12.899 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I think, like, you’re kind of getting a sense of her MO, so, like, I feel like, yeah, if you can go chat with her in New York, like, probably will smooth things over. Most of what
61 00:09:13.200 ⇒ 00:09:17.220 Uttam Kumaran: like, sort of, again, like, my priority help I need from this team is just, like.
62 00:09:17.530 ⇒ 00:09:22.289 Uttam Kumaran: Coverage for not going and sitting on, like, working sessions with her.
63 00:09:22.440 ⇒ 00:09:27.010 Uttam Kumaran: Because she just occupies a lot of our time, and
64 00:09:27.150 ⇒ 00:09:30.270 Uttam Kumaran: I can go make more money for us elsewhere, so…
65 00:09:30.530 ⇒ 00:09:33.469 Uttam Kumaran: that’s part of, like, what I need help from this team. I think…
66 00:09:33.990 ⇒ 00:09:41.569 Uttam Kumaran: I’m slow… I’m kind of slowly seeing it, but I think that’s probably my first point before we dive into, like, this refunds thing, is just, like.
67 00:09:41.740 ⇒ 00:09:45.479 Uttam Kumaran: based on what you’ve seen, Robert, like, how do you think we should attack this?
68 00:09:45.740 ⇒ 00:09:49.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, what’s your sense?
69 00:09:50.070 ⇒ 00:09:57.550 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I mean, I think you’re right in that, like, she gets bogged down on these details, and it just… it does kind of force us to, like.
70 00:09:57.710 ⇒ 00:10:06.150 Robert Tseng: because I’ll be talking to her about something, it’s like, okay, great, I want to talk to you about that, but, like, where’s that table I asked Amber for? And it’s like, come on, like, we can…
71 00:10:06.150 ⇒ 00:10:09.430 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, I… yeah, and I gave her that feedback yesterday. She called me and was like.
72 00:10:10.090 ⇒ 00:10:15.309 Uttam Kumaran: She’s like, where’s this monthly table? And I’m like… or, where is this table? I’m like, dude, but, like, I…
73 00:10:15.410 ⇒ 00:10:33.980 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t get anything in front of you until it’s perfectly formatted, because that’s what you asked me for. So, it’s… it’s something that I can do in 5 seconds, but I need to go through 5 passes of review internally. So, is that off the table now? And she was like, no, I’m in, like, sprint mode, like, we should be able to hash things out, and I’m like, well.
74 00:10:34.230 ⇒ 00:10:51.010 Uttam Kumaran: That’s not how… that’s not how this works. Like, you put… you put the bar here for quality of work, so I’m a… we adapted to that. Now you’re saying, just ship me all the orders. I’m not gonna do that, and then get roasted. I basically told her that. I said, I’m not gonna give you that, and then get roasted. So…
75 00:10:51.400 ⇒ 00:10:56.469 Uttam Kumaran: We… something needs to… give here. So, yeah.
76 00:10:59.690 ⇒ 00:11:07.120 Robert Tseng: Yeah, well, I guess what I’m hoping for on Monday… I mean, yeah, I’m gonna block off a good chunk of time with her. Leading up to that, I would like to…
77 00:11:07.490 ⇒ 00:11:14.200 Robert Tseng: well, I know we’re only running in two lanes, like wholesale or retail, and so she has, like, all these… she wants to, like.
78 00:11:14.940 ⇒ 00:11:18.489 Robert Tseng: she wants to ask all of these questions about the data. Like, she thinks.
79 00:11:18.490 ⇒ 00:11:25.080 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I would think about 3 lanes. I would be one thing, and then I like 3 lanes. There’s wholesale, there’s retail, and then there’s, like, biz ops.
80 00:11:25.410 ⇒ 00:11:31.619 Uttam Kumaran: there’s, like, this, like, how do we do reporting at Element, like, broader thing? Okay.
81 00:11:32.650 ⇒ 00:11:34.520 Robert Tseng: Okay.
82 00:11:34.630 ⇒ 00:11:59.409 Robert Tseng: Well, yeah, I think she… you know, anything we ship her, she wants to go and validate it. She doesn’t have, like, a very, like, structured QA process. That’s why she wants to do these working sessions, because she wants us to pull up the data we have, she wants to pull up the resources she has internally, and she wants us to walk her through, like, well, this is… these are the differences, this is what… and, like, to be able to do that for her. Seems like she wants to learn how to do that, she doesn’t really want us to just, like.
83 00:11:59.760 ⇒ 00:12:14.850 Robert Tseng: kind of take… take it offline and, like, go and do it, because, I mean, I understand there is, like, some… some turnaround, it feels like whenever she’s… whatever she’s asking for, maybe she’s changing her request, or our team is not, like, fully getting it. So, like, she doesn’t really need
84 00:12:15.260 ⇒ 00:12:18.780 Robert Tseng: Like, we… I think that we just have to come…
85 00:12:18.930 ⇒ 00:12:27.679 Robert Tseng: we have to come to some agreement, which I’m going to spend some time with her, of, like, how we’re going to do iterations with her, so maybe that’s, like, one part of it.
86 00:12:27.820 ⇒ 00:12:44.759 Robert Tseng: Like, yeah, you’re right, we can’t just, like, give her the final, like, state quality, like, the… like, the quality that she wants, every time, because that’s just, like, not… that’s just, like, a waste of our time if we’re just gonna go and present it all nicely formatted, and then…
87 00:12:45.130 ⇒ 00:12:48.369 Robert Tseng: All we’re doing is, like, talking about… Or you should charge for it.
88 00:12:48.370 ⇒ 00:12:49.850 Uttam Kumaran: Or you should charge for it.
89 00:12:50.580 ⇒ 00:12:51.790 Uttam Kumaran: You know, if that’s…
90 00:12:51.790 ⇒ 00:12:52.139 Robert Tseng: It’s gonna.
91 00:12:52.140 ⇒ 00:13:01.949 Uttam Kumaran: be like that, and everything is gonna take 50% longer, we need to make 50% more, because I can… we can bust through this whole thing, she’s the blocker, like…
92 00:13:02.080 ⇒ 00:13:09.120 Uttam Kumaran: we… every step of the way, she’s like, I need more context, I need more this, I’m like, dude… and then she’s like, we’re not moving… I’m like…
93 00:13:09.390 ⇒ 00:13:20.589 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so, like, there’s… there’s kind of… that’s why I’m like, we have a lot of leverage here, because, dude, there’s no other consulting partner that’s gonna do this type of work with this… some type of person like this. Like…
94 00:13:20.590 ⇒ 00:13:20.940 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
95 00:13:20.940 ⇒ 00:13:26.060 Uttam Kumaran: So… I feel like one push I have is also just, like.
96 00:13:26.190 ⇒ 00:13:30.689 Uttam Kumaran: We… we… if… if it… we’d really get an understanding of, like, her work streams, and then…
97 00:13:30.800 ⇒ 00:13:35.470 Uttam Kumaran: we just need the budget to be able to staff accordingly, you know? Because right now, it’s a little tight.
98 00:13:36.300 ⇒ 00:13:37.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah.
99 00:13:37.490 ⇒ 00:13:43.649 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, so I mean, I’m hoping to spend some time thinking through, like, how I can
100 00:13:43.760 ⇒ 00:13:46.339 Robert Tseng: kind of set those expectations with her.
101 00:13:46.610 ⇒ 00:13:51.049 Robert Tseng: But then, I think just internally on how we get more organized, I think…
102 00:13:51.620 ⇒ 00:14:07.289 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I do think this is quite… this is… this is more siloed than I was hoping as well, where it seems like it’s, like, we’re just… alright, it’s in the ETL stage, the modeling stage, it’s just in a way. Once he’s done, then it passes off to us. So, like, we have this, like.
103 00:14:07.310 ⇒ 00:14:16.409 Robert Tseng: kind of handoff right now, where, like, I can’t easily go and jump in and look at what he’s doing and be able to reference things that I can talk about in conversation.
104 00:14:16.410 ⇒ 00:14:16.750 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
105 00:14:16.890 ⇒ 00:14:22.319 Robert Tseng: kind of like, yeah, so I’m wondering, like, how we can… how we can smooth that part out.
106 00:14:22.870 ⇒ 00:14:30.210 Robert Tseng: like, at least with other clients, like, I feel like we’ve been… Better at just, like.
107 00:14:31.160 ⇒ 00:14:35.090 Greg Stoutenburg: Yeah, making the raw or intermediary models, like.
108 00:14:35.090 ⇒ 00:14:52.170 Robert Tseng: accessible right away for… maybe there already is in Snowflake, but I tried to pull it up on a call with her yesterday, and I couldn’t actually access it, so I think this is… this is… we’re probably just, like, one or two meetings away internally from… from getting to, like, an environment where we actually have a sandbox where I could go and, like, talk about stuff with her.
109 00:14:52.170 ⇒ 00:14:52.700 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
110 00:14:53.220 ⇒ 00:14:55.980 Robert Tseng: So I think that would probably be helpful.
111 00:14:58.540 ⇒ 00:15:04.759 Robert Tseng: But yeah, I think because she doesn’t have a vision, like, a future state that she’s working towards, she thinks that, like.
112 00:15:05.610 ⇒ 00:15:20.279 Robert Tseng: just asking questions and doing this, like, investigation with us is gonna give her clarity, so it’s… it’s a little bit backwards compared to, like, some, like, other clients that we work with, where they have what they think they want, and they… they just tell us, like… Well, I basically gave her…
113 00:15:20.330 ⇒ 00:15:22.440 Uttam Kumaran: Well, I’m sort of like Shadow.
114 00:15:22.720 ⇒ 00:15:27.799 Uttam Kumaran: head of data, or whatever she’s doing. I’ve told her the vision she has is my vision.
115 00:15:28.180 ⇒ 00:15:31.060 Uttam Kumaran: And the thing we’re doing is what I said we should do.
116 00:15:31.200 ⇒ 00:15:35.369 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, in that sense, it’s clear that she doesn’t know enough
117 00:15:35.760 ⇒ 00:15:39.900 Uttam Kumaran: About how to put it together, and she’s very over-reliant on us.
118 00:15:40.760 ⇒ 00:15:46.370 Uttam Kumaran: Which is fine, because I don’t… I’m… I don’t care, but… Then she’s also, like.
119 00:15:46.760 ⇒ 00:15:50.840 Uttam Kumaran: Tries to go deep, and then is, like… she struggles to, like, put together basic
120 00:15:51.170 ⇒ 00:15:53.960 Uttam Kumaran: like, I just do basic stuff in Google Sheets.
121 00:15:54.490 ⇒ 00:16:01.120 Uttam Kumaran: So then I’m like, okay… Why don’t you just go play politics and let us fix this up?
122 00:16:01.390 ⇒ 00:16:05.270 Uttam Kumaran: And then hire someone between me and you, and call it a day.
123 00:16:05.750 ⇒ 00:16:13.879 Uttam Kumaran: And she’s… I kind of been pushing her to do that, so she’ll mention to you on Monday, she’s thinking of bringing this guy from Brave. I think we’d get her to bring that fucking guy.
124 00:16:14.060 ⇒ 00:16:19.289 Uttam Kumaran: And that guy becomes, like, the, the, the… the punching bag.
125 00:16:19.450 ⇒ 00:16:22.229 Uttam Kumaran: Because… Right now, like.
126 00:16:22.490 ⇒ 00:16:27.460 Uttam Kumaran: I… if she’s not paying us enough for me to go puppet her into, like, building Element up.
127 00:16:27.770 ⇒ 00:16:31.130 Uttam Kumaran: And I don’t have, like, we don’t have the time to sort of do that.
128 00:16:31.390 ⇒ 00:16:35.079 Uttam Kumaran: And… she’s really out of… I think she’s just out of her depth.
129 00:16:35.480 ⇒ 00:16:39.930 Uttam Kumaran: But she cares a lot about, like, winning and the optics of, like, winning.
130 00:16:40.120 ⇒ 00:16:43.710 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Like, she’s really mindful of, like, Phil said this thing, and like…
131 00:16:44.500 ⇒ 00:16:49.400 Uttam Kumaran: You know, but because… because of that, and she doesn’t know how to answer on the fly, she’s like…
132 00:16:50.030 ⇒ 00:16:52.170 Uttam Kumaran: Either we become the punching bag.
133 00:16:53.100 ⇒ 00:16:58.989 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, she just has this insecurity. So that’s, like, that’s roughly, like, what I see is happening.
134 00:16:59.150 ⇒ 00:16:59.760 Uttam Kumaran: So…
135 00:16:59.760 ⇒ 00:17:00.440 Robert Tseng: Sure.
136 00:17:00.440 ⇒ 00:17:01.120 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
137 00:17:04.040 ⇒ 00:17:09.590 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, I mean, I feel like I should just grab some time with Awish before the Monday…
138 00:17:10.030 ⇒ 00:17:12.559 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so I think if you could grab time, if you could…
139 00:17:12.770 ⇒ 00:17:16.700 Uttam Kumaran: If you can grab time with him, even, like, tomorrow morning, dude, just have.
140 00:17:16.700 ⇒ 00:17:17.069 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
141 00:17:17.079 ⇒ 00:17:18.379 Uttam Kumaran: Yep, the data stand up.
142 00:17:18.539 ⇒ 00:17:24.479 Uttam Kumaran: like, one thing I also want to say is, like, I think you’re doing a good job being, like, if there’s nothing to talk about and more urgent things, like.
143 00:17:24.759 ⇒ 00:17:36.669 Uttam Kumaran: we’re doing a good job on other teams, like, they can just skip stand-ups if you want to use that time to just go through this. I’ll try to just get… make sure that you’re in there and things like that today, but I would just spend an hour with him.
144 00:17:36.669 ⇒ 00:17:45.849 Uttam Kumaran: Additionally, you should… I’ll make sure that both of you guys are in the repo today, and then you can… all of our transcripts are in the vault, by the way. Yeah.
145 00:17:45.850 ⇒ 00:17:49.749 Robert Tseng: I am, I am in the re… yeah, I already have access to that, yeah.
146 00:17:49.750 ⇒ 00:17:54.619 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, in case you have questions like that, I think Cursor will go through those transcripts.
147 00:17:54.800 ⇒ 00:17:56.530 Uttam Kumaran: But let’s… yeah, I think…
148 00:17:56.690 ⇒ 00:17:59.660 Uttam Kumaran: Today and tomorrow, let’s try to… do that.
149 00:17:59.790 ⇒ 00:18:07.239 Uttam Kumaran: And just get you guys up to speed. The last resort thing I also have is I may go turn on, like, the Snowflake AI thing.
150 00:18:07.670 ⇒ 00:18:09.780 Uttam Kumaran: Like, this little sidebar thing will come up.
151 00:18:10.280 ⇒ 00:18:11.960 Robert Tseng: And I think, like, that’ll…
152 00:18:12.240 ⇒ 00:18:15.230 Uttam Kumaran: keep her, like… Occupied.
153 00:18:16.540 ⇒ 00:18:17.160 Robert Tseng: Okay.
154 00:18:17.990 ⇒ 00:18:20.960 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I’ll just turn it on, have it be on, like, the Prod Marts.
155 00:18:21.320 ⇒ 00:18:24.240 Uttam Kumaran: And try to load it with docs, and then see if it works.
156 00:18:24.800 ⇒ 00:18:25.280 Uttam Kumaran: bike.
157 00:18:25.280 ⇒ 00:18:25.760 Robert Tseng: Okay.
158 00:18:25.760 ⇒ 00:18:31.380 Uttam Kumaran: The folks at CTA are doing that, and she’s like, yo, this is working super well, so…
159 00:18:31.880 ⇒ 00:18:35.720 Uttam Kumaran: At least before Omni is here, like… Yeah.
160 00:18:36.540 ⇒ 00:18:37.250 Robert Tseng: Okay.
161 00:18:39.200 ⇒ 00:18:41.669 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’m gonna grab time with him, yeah.
162 00:18:41.980 ⇒ 00:18:49.299 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. And then on this refunds item, I think Amber, I already mentioned to her that I’m like.
163 00:18:49.600 ⇒ 00:18:55.750 Uttam Kumaran: maybe today’s not, like, good for turnaround. I’m probably just gonna go ahead and punt anyways.
164 00:18:55.980 ⇒ 00:18:58.580 Uttam Kumaran: like, I shouldn’t have agreed to today anyways for that.
165 00:18:58.730 ⇒ 00:19:04.479 Uttam Kumaran: So, but the… I sort of sent you the granola. Basically, There’s a sheet from Finance.
166 00:19:04.630 ⇒ 00:19:08.609 Uttam Kumaran: And there’s R orders and our sums that we just need to get to match.
167 00:19:09.290 ⇒ 00:19:10.060 Uttam Kumaran: like…
168 00:19:11.430 ⇒ 00:19:16.110 Uttam Kumaran: I, like, I’m wondering how much more context can I help give, or do you want to stay on?
169 00:19:16.420 ⇒ 00:19:20.189 Uttam Kumaran: to go through that together for, like, 5-10 minutes? Like, what do you think?
170 00:19:21.190 ⇒ 00:19:25.639 Amber Lin: Yeah, 5-10 minutes would be nice. I’m also stuck, I need to do this.
171 00:19:25.970 ⇒ 00:19:30.629 Amber Lin: Change of date formatting for her, and, like, redo the format, so…
172 00:19:30.930 ⇒ 00:19:34.569 Amber Lin: Let’s just do 3-5 minutes.
173 00:19:34.570 ⇒ 00:19:37.600 Uttam Kumaran: When is the Eden stand-up, Robert? Is that… is that right now?
174 00:19:37.790 ⇒ 00:19:39.360 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s usually right after this.
175 00:19:39.740 ⇒ 00:19:43.119 Amber Lin: Yeah, but I don’t… I don’t have to go there, we can stay here.
176 00:19:44.030 ⇒ 00:19:45.720 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I was gonna go there.
177 00:19:45.720 ⇒ 00:19:49.289 Amber Lin: Okay, then we can maybe… we can maybe talk after Ethan.
178 00:19:49.290 ⇒ 00:19:50.749 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s just talk right after you did.
179 00:19:52.630 ⇒ 00:19:55.259 Robert Tseng: Okay, cool. Then we’ll switch, switch over. Hey, guys.
180 00:19:55.260 ⇒ 00:19:56.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, thank you.