Meeting Title: Element Project Planning Sync Date: 2025-11-16 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Robert Tseng
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1 00:45:20.210 ⇒ 00:45:27.059 Robert Tseng: Oh, dude, I just saw your Slack. I thought I was, like… I thought you were gonna text me or something. I was just doing other things.
2 00:45:27.060 ⇒ 00:45:28.720 Uttam Kumaran: Oh. Oh, God.
3 00:45:28.720 ⇒ 00:45:29.300 Robert Tseng: bad.
4 00:45:29.680 ⇒ 00:45:32.829 Uttam Kumaran: You’re good. I’m just working on this Gantt chart.
5 00:45:33.160 ⇒ 00:45:35.270 Robert Tseng: Great, yeah, I have it pulled up already.
6 00:45:36.260 ⇒ 00:45:39.149 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, check out the… the…
7 00:45:39.610 ⇒ 00:45:42.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know if I sent… if I sent you the latest link.
8 00:45:42.640 ⇒ 00:45:44.200 Robert Tseng: The Element one?
9 00:45:45.170 ⇒ 00:45:47.050 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah,
10 00:45:49.010 ⇒ 00:45:55.119 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just am, like… I think everything’s basically on here, so kind of, like, what I mapped is, like.
11 00:45:56.180 ⇒ 00:46:00.930 Uttam Kumaran: There’s, like, some exploration phase, there’s, like, okay, we just… we need to meet
12 00:46:01.450 ⇒ 00:46:10.899 Uttam Kumaran: like, whoever are the channel managers for each of this one. I kind of want to have it all here, and I expect Shivani to be able to, like, move things around based on priority.
13 00:46:11.020 ⇒ 00:46:17.009 Uttam Kumaran: And then… but, like, there’s also some things that kind of cut across everything, like, for example.
14 00:46:17.320 ⇒ 00:46:22.020 Uttam Kumaran: The metrics dictionary is something that they wanted, so we’ll just be working on that.
15 00:46:22.380 ⇒ 00:46:30.929 Uttam Kumaran: kind of throughout the whole piece. She can… I’ll just move that, down. Also the,
16 00:46:31.110 ⇒ 00:46:35.949 Uttam Kumaran: Like, we’ll work on, sort of, like, data source catalog, and then once…
17 00:46:37.390 ⇒ 00:46:43.200 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, once we sort of learn about the channels, we can also, at some point in parallel.
18 00:46:43.710 ⇒ 00:46:53.060 Uttam Kumaran: Make a decision on data ingestion tool, data warehouse, yeah, data warehousing,
19 00:46:53.660 ⇒ 00:46:57.660 Uttam Kumaran: And then start to kick off ingestion, basically.
20 00:46:58.460 ⇒ 00:47:05.970 Uttam Kumaran: the… I’m sort of… anything that’s wholesale or retail, I’ve sort of, added buffer, just because, like.
21 00:47:06.700 ⇒ 00:47:09.949 Uttam Kumaran: Shopify and Amazon feel pretty comfortable with the data, but…
22 00:47:10.050 ⇒ 00:47:14.920 Uttam Kumaran: Otherwise, like, I don’t… I don’t really know, but again, like, we’re just kind of planning, so I don’t… I don’t…
23 00:47:15.260 ⇒ 00:47:21.810 Uttam Kumaran: As long as it all ends up in here. And then the… basically, the structure is, like, we have to go into data modeling.
24 00:47:22.000 ⇒ 00:47:30.650 Uttam Kumaran: Additionally, so we have to set up, sort of, info for data modeling, we have to make, like, a BI tool decision, and then…
25 00:47:30.980 ⇒ 00:47:36.380 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not necessary for us to wait for that to start to model data, but,
26 00:47:37.080 ⇒ 00:47:41.410 Uttam Kumaran: That’s… that’s basically what we would do after we’re able to set up
27 00:47:41.740 ⇒ 00:47:56.310 Uttam Kumaran: dbt and stuff, we can start modeling, start modeling things. So… Yeah, that’s,
28 00:47:57.090 ⇒ 00:47:59.319 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, it, and then…
29 00:48:00.220 ⇒ 00:48:07.640 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll just have… I can have them lay… I can have her take a look at this, and then layer on other pieces. I mean, looking at the timeline.
30 00:48:08.150 ⇒ 00:48:12.959 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I feel like… It’s gonna be at least 2 months.
31 00:48:15.350 ⇒ 00:48:17.130 Robert Tseng: We should assign a 3-month to start.
32 00:48:17.130 ⇒ 00:48:19.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, it will be 3 months…
33 00:48:20.530 ⇒ 00:48:23.910 Uttam Kumaran: In order to get to the point where, like, they have their basics set up.
34 00:48:24.280 ⇒ 00:48:26.410 Uttam Kumaran: And we’re, like, starting to model.
35 00:48:26.860 ⇒ 00:48:29.920 Uttam Kumaran: Is my guess.
36 00:48:33.370 ⇒ 00:48:34.010 Robert Tseng: Okay.
37 00:48:39.970 ⇒ 00:48:44.439 Uttam Kumaran: And I like this tool, I mean, this… Hype was using this, and I liked it, so I feel like it’s…
38 00:48:44.730 ⇒ 00:48:46.710 Uttam Kumaran: Start using this across clients.
39 00:48:46.910 ⇒ 00:48:47.590 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
40 00:48:47.990 ⇒ 00:48:50.900 Robert Tseng: Dude, there’s a… there’s 200,
41 00:48:52.330 ⇒ 00:48:55.339 Robert Tseng: rows on this thing. It’s crazy.
42 00:48:55.340 ⇒ 00:48:56.350 Uttam Kumaran: Wonder why?
43 00:48:57.160 ⇒ 00:49:01.399 Robert Tseng: Am I looking at the right one? You got 200 rows on the scan chart?
44 00:49:01.810 ⇒ 00:49:03.310 Uttam Kumaran: Wait, what are you looking at?
45 00:49:04.590 ⇒ 00:49:08.260 Robert Tseng: Oh, this is all project? Wait, what? What the heck am I looking at?
46 00:49:10.420 ⇒ 00:49:13.050 Robert Tseng: Okay, it’s 45, okay.
47 00:49:13.050 ⇒ 00:49:13.900 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
48 00:49:14.050 ⇒ 00:49:15.529 Robert Tseng: Yeah, alright.
49 00:49:16.200 ⇒ 00:49:22.130 Robert Tseng: All right, looks much better. We were, like, talking, and I was like, dude, there’s a lot of stuff in here, okay.
50 00:49:22.130 ⇒ 00:49:25.999 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, it’s just this one, yeah, yeah. So there’s just these three sections.
51 00:49:26.120 ⇒ 00:49:28.079 Uttam Kumaran: And then, like…
52 00:49:28.390 ⇒ 00:49:37.559 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so if we start December 1st, then, yeah, we would start December, January, February, so some of these cross-cutting tasks…
53 00:49:38.150 ⇒ 00:49:44.279 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll sort of stay until… Whatever, I don’t… can’t see the,
54 00:49:44.860 ⇒ 00:49:48.720 Uttam Kumaran: days anymore. So, yeah, I guess, whatever, March…
55 00:49:48.720 ⇒ 00:49:49.440 Robert Tseng: It’s free?
56 00:49:49.900 ⇒ 00:49:52.679 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no. Oh, yeah, there’s a free version, but…
57 00:49:53.720 ⇒ 00:49:58.830 Uttam Kumaran: I just pay for it, because I’m gonna start having people do all their project planning in this.
58 00:49:59.050 ⇒ 00:50:00.540 Robert Tseng: Yeah, cool.
59 00:50:00.540 ⇒ 00:50:01.190 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
60 00:50:23.540 ⇒ 00:50:28.559 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, ideally, these are all… By the end of…
61 00:50:29.510 ⇒ 00:50:33.109 Uttam Kumaran: Feb, we deliver all the documentation they wanted.
62 00:50:33.510 ⇒ 00:50:40.989 Uttam Kumaran: And… Yeah, I just need to take a look. Yeah, I would say…
63 00:50:41.890 ⇒ 00:50:49.389 Uttam Kumaran: if you can sort of poke at the dock, then I can get this to current state, and then we can just ship an email tonight.
64 00:50:49.980 ⇒ 00:50:50.580 Robert Tseng: Okay.
65 00:50:52.120 ⇒ 00:50:55.130 Uttam Kumaran: They’re good.
66 00:50:55.750 ⇒ 00:50:57.540 Uttam Kumaran: What’s for dinner over there?
67 00:50:59.710 ⇒ 00:51:03.290 Robert Tseng: Here? Yeah. Leftovers. We had a… we had a Friendsgiving yesterday.
68 00:51:03.290 ⇒ 00:51:04.559 Uttam Kumaran: Oh yeah, how was it?
69 00:51:05.140 ⇒ 00:51:09.190 Robert Tseng: It was great. It was, like, about 14 people.
70 00:51:09.190 ⇒ 00:51:09.929 Uttam Kumaran: It’s pretty full.
71 00:51:09.930 ⇒ 00:51:12.060 Robert Tseng: In this tiny little apartment. Yeah.
72 00:51:12.240 ⇒ 00:51:19.389 Robert Tseng: Oh, good. Yeah, no, Rachel… I mean, we do this every year, so it’s her favorite thing to…
73 00:51:19.980 ⇒ 00:51:21.100 Uttam Kumaran: That’s awesome.
74 00:51:21.100 ⇒ 00:51:27.510 Robert Tseng: Yeah, she made most of the food. I had one job, which was get the turkey, and I messed that up, so…
75 00:51:28.900 ⇒ 00:51:34.070 Robert Tseng: I, like, I pre-ordered it, and the pickup was next Saturday, so I just, like…
76 00:51:34.760 ⇒ 00:51:40.130 Robert Tseng: Now that I’m telling you, I have to… I have to cancel that order. I forgot to do that, so… because we’re not gonna…
77 00:51:40.520 ⇒ 00:51:42.280 Robert Tseng: When it shows up.
78 00:51:42.390 ⇒ 00:51:49.509 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so we just, like… I just had my friends pick up some… Random, like, Chinese barbecue meats.
79 00:51:49.510 ⇒ 00:51:51.110 Uttam Kumaran: Which…
80 00:51:51.110 ⇒ 00:51:52.130 Robert Tseng: It’s okay, you know, it’s okay.
81 00:51:52.130 ⇒ 00:51:53.999 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, I don’t believe in turkey, to be honest.
82 00:51:54.000 ⇒ 00:51:56.050 Robert Tseng: It’s better than turkey, so, yeah.
83 00:51:56.050 ⇒ 00:52:00.679 Uttam Kumaran: I’m sort of, like, not Team Turkey, and I feel like…
84 00:52:00.940 ⇒ 00:52:05.130 Uttam Kumaran: It’s time to… yeah, I’m like, let’s do chicken or steak or something.
85 00:52:05.280 ⇒ 00:52:12.009 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the chicken and the pork that we got was more… was more popular anyway.
86 00:52:12.180 ⇒ 00:52:20.120 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, it was just… it was great. I mean, I… we invited a hodgepodge of random people, nice. Yeah, so it was good.
87 00:52:20.490 ⇒ 00:52:21.910 Uttam Kumaran: It’s kind of like… Nice.
88 00:52:21.960 ⇒ 00:52:25.200 Robert Tseng: Posting is, like, the only way to, like, bring…
89 00:52:25.370 ⇒ 00:52:29.110 Robert Tseng: Because Rachel and I, our lives don’t really overlap that much, so, like…
90 00:52:29.110 ⇒ 00:52:29.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
91 00:52:29.550 ⇒ 00:52:37.769 Robert Tseng: She doesn’t meet my school friends, doesn’t meet my work friends, like, doesn’t really… and, like, I’m not really part of her, like, church small group thing anymore, so, like.
92 00:52:37.900 ⇒ 00:52:46.039 Robert Tseng: Yeah, like, it’s all… stuff like this is where we get to actually mix people around, and I get to actually meet the people that she spends her time with and stuff, so…
93 00:52:46.040 ⇒ 00:52:46.630 Uttam Kumaran: Right.
94 00:52:46.830 ⇒ 00:52:47.400 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
95 00:52:48.140 ⇒ 00:52:49.429 Robert Tseng: Sounds good.
96 00:52:51.590 ⇒ 00:52:52.560 Uttam Kumaran: Nice.
97 00:52:52.560 ⇒ 00:52:54.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah. What about you? What’d you, what’d you make?
98 00:52:55.260 ⇒ 00:52:58.689 Robert Tseng: Oh, I mean, I saw all that was just, I had leftovers from that, and we’re gonna have leftovers.
99 00:52:58.690 ⇒ 00:52:59.250 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
100 00:52:59.250 ⇒ 00:53:01.229 Robert Tseng: relief. Yeah.
101 00:53:01.230 ⇒ 00:53:07.610 Uttam Kumaran: This week, I… I made a… there’s this Mexican dish called cochinita pibilo.
102 00:53:07.730 ⇒ 00:53:13.300 Uttam Kumaran: It’s, like, slow-cooked, braised, pork shoulder. And…
103 00:53:13.660 ⇒ 00:53:16.050 Uttam Kumaran: you… there’s this, like, Mexican…
104 00:53:16.510 ⇒ 00:53:24.160 Uttam Kumaran: paste called achiote. It’s a really strong, concentrated paste, and, like, you blend that with orange juice, garlic.
105 00:53:24.610 ⇒ 00:53:26.989 Uttam Kumaran: And a couple in, like, oregano.
106 00:53:26.990 ⇒ 00:53:29.469 Robert Tseng: It’s made from, what, bitter orange, or whatever that thing is?
107 00:53:29.470 ⇒ 00:53:30.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, something like that.
108 00:53:30.720 ⇒ 00:53:31.080 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
109 00:53:31.080 ⇒ 00:53:31.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
110 00:53:31.600 ⇒ 00:53:35.830 Robert Tseng: Dude, that stuff, if you eat it raw, like, it, like, poisons you, it’s crazy, like…
111 00:53:35.830 ⇒ 00:53:39.900 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, I tried a little bit. I mean, I just… I… Or at least it was…
112 00:53:39.900 ⇒ 00:53:40.600 Robert Tseng: True, yeah.
113 00:53:40.600 ⇒ 00:53:48.540 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, it’s this weird flavor, and so, yeah, and then I basically marinated it for, like, a day, like, I went to Costco, like.
114 00:53:48.660 ⇒ 00:53:55.720 Uttam Kumaran: more than a month ago and bought, like, the biggest thing of pork shoulder, and so I, like, I have, like, portions of it cut up.
115 00:53:55.960 ⇒ 00:54:05.040 Uttam Kumaran: And so I used one portion, like, maybe, like, 2 pounds of it, and then, yeah, cooked this pork, and it’s bomb. So we’ve been eating that sort of all week.
116 00:54:05.310 ⇒ 00:54:14.449 Uttam Kumaran: And then today, I… I also, like, I meal prepped a lot, like, 2 months ago, like… like, different, pasta sauces and stuff, so today I’ll make some…
117 00:54:14.660 ⇒ 00:54:18.130 Uttam Kumaran: just make some, I’ll use some pasta sauce and…
118 00:54:18.290 ⇒ 00:54:22.710 Uttam Kumaran: we’ve been eating this protein pasta, which actually is not as bad as I thought. I’m really…
119 00:54:22.710 ⇒ 00:54:25.359 Robert Tseng: Oh, is that the chickpea pasta?
120 00:54:25.360 ⇒ 00:54:27.880 Uttam Kumaran: It’s the Berea pasta? The Barilla?
121 00:54:27.880 ⇒ 00:54:29.599 Robert Tseng: Oh, okay, Brilla, okay.
122 00:54:29.600 ⇒ 00:54:38.420 Uttam Kumaran: It’s not that… no, they actually did a good job. Like, I’m usually not a fan of, like… I don’t like substituting. I would rather just make healthier stuff, but, like.
123 00:54:38.590 ⇒ 00:54:44.659 Uttam Kumaran: you can’t have everything out of chickpea or tofu, like, it’s just not… it’s just not, like, not gonna taste great. And…
124 00:54:44.660 ⇒ 00:54:46.999 Robert Tseng: Have you ever had bonza chickpea pasta?
125 00:54:48.220 ⇒ 00:54:50.820 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe, my dad…
126 00:54:50.820 ⇒ 00:54:54.130 Robert Tseng: It’s so bad. I hate it. Yeah, anyway, I wouldn’t.
127 00:54:54.130 ⇒ 00:54:56.669 Uttam Kumaran: It, like, kind of, like, yeah, there’s no texture.
128 00:54:56.670 ⇒ 00:54:57.389 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah.
129 00:54:57.720 ⇒ 00:54:59.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and so…
130 00:54:59.720 ⇒ 00:55:04.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Yeah, but… so that… that’s been good, so I’ll… I’ll… I’m gonna make that, and then…
131 00:55:04.810 ⇒ 00:55:12.610 Uttam Kumaran: I, I’ve also… I prep, like, lemon and lime juice in advance, like, I freeze it. Like, I buy…
132 00:55:12.730 ⇒ 00:55:15.209 Uttam Kumaran: Just, like, a bag of lemons and limes, and…
133 00:55:15.510 ⇒ 00:55:19.479 Uttam Kumaran: So that I can always just have, like, juice available instead of, like, having to…
134 00:55:19.640 ⇒ 00:55:22.580 Robert Tseng: squeeze it every time, so I just…
135 00:55:22.580 ⇒ 00:55:37.980 Uttam Kumaran: When you texted me, I squeezed… I squeezed, like, almost, like, 20 lemons, and I have, like, 6 little mason jars, and so every week, I can, like, every 2 weeks or so, I can just take one from the freezer and put it in the fridge.
136 00:55:38.060 ⇒ 00:55:46.629 Uttam Kumaran: And, like, it’s… there’s certain things where I… it’s, like, recognizable if you freeze it, but I actually… I feel like I underutilized my freezer.
137 00:55:46.850 ⇒ 00:55:55.289 Uttam Kumaran: Where I, like, I… I could have frozen way more, like, I used to just make mistakes on, like, trying to eat everything so fresh, versus, like.
138 00:55:55.290 ⇒ 00:55:55.910 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
139 00:55:56.060 ⇒ 00:56:00.379 Uttam Kumaran: just squeeze… I just need lemon juice occasionally here and there, and I don’t wanna, like…
140 00:56:00.680 ⇒ 00:56:08.310 Uttam Kumaran: I can’t… if I buy a bag of lemons, like, half of them will go bad, and so instead, that’s what I’ve been doing. So I’ve been getting better at, like, freezing things, and…
141 00:56:08.740 ⇒ 00:56:09.350 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
142 00:56:09.720 ⇒ 00:56:11.089 Uttam Kumaran: Some things are bad.
143 00:56:11.090 ⇒ 00:56:14.819 Robert Tseng: or frozen. Like, surprisingly, I don’t know if you’ve heard of frozen tofu.
144 00:56:15.010 ⇒ 00:56:15.720 Robert Tseng: bet.
145 00:56:15.720 ⇒ 00:56:21.290 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, I have some… well, I have some tofu in the freezer, but I was, like, worried, I don’t know how it’s gonna…
146 00:56:22.750 ⇒ 00:56:30.240 Robert Tseng: Posture is great. I mean, when we want, like, a tofu that’s meatier, like, after you freeze tofu, I don’t… for whatever reason, like, it just…
147 00:56:30.340 ⇒ 00:56:33.449 Robert Tseng: it makes it taste meatier.
148 00:56:33.450 ⇒ 00:56:42.020 Uttam Kumaran: Usually, I have to just drain, I, like, wrap it in paper, like, tissue… like a paper towel, and try to get as much water out of it.
149 00:56:42.290 ⇒ 00:56:42.620 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
150 00:56:42.620 ⇒ 00:56:45.289 Uttam Kumaran: because otherwise it doesn’t fry well, but yeah, I mean…
151 00:56:45.290 ⇒ 00:56:46.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, if you want.
152 00:56:46.130 ⇒ 00:56:46.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
153 00:56:46.500 ⇒ 00:56:49.140 Robert Tseng: The freezing to the fry is good. Like, it is.
154 00:56:49.140 ⇒ 00:56:51.130 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, great, okay, yeah, that’s exciting.
155 00:56:51.130 ⇒ 00:56:53.830 Robert Tseng: We, it’s… yeah, we always freeze our tofu now, so…
156 00:56:54.810 ⇒ 00:56:59.410 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, set. Yeah, so we’ve been doing… dude, I’ve been making some great tofu dishes, too, like…
157 00:56:59.750 ⇒ 00:57:03.330 Uttam Kumaran: with, like, like, fish sauce.
158 00:57:03.550 ⇒ 00:57:07.730 Uttam Kumaran: This, like… I found this dark Chinese soy sauce.
159 00:57:07.730 ⇒ 00:57:09.549 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, dogs for sauce is the way to go.
160 00:57:09.550 ⇒ 00:57:11.950 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Dark, I never even knew about that.
161 00:57:12.920 ⇒ 00:57:13.370 Uttam Kumaran: rape.
162 00:57:13.780 ⇒ 00:57:15.990 Uttam Kumaran: Dark soy sauce, and then…
163 00:57:16.280 ⇒ 00:57:21.859 Uttam Kumaran: I have this Chinese… there’s, like, other Chinese, vinegar, like, some type of vinegar.
164 00:57:22.140 ⇒ 00:57:22.760 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
165 00:57:22.930 ⇒ 00:57:25.490 Uttam Kumaran: And then chili oil.
166 00:57:25.860 ⇒ 00:57:33.920 Uttam Kumaran: And it’s just, like, let the tofu marinate, and it comes out really good, and then I just… I just, throw it in the oven with some cornstarch, and then it, like, kind of fries up.
167 00:57:34.220 ⇒ 00:57:34.910 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
168 00:57:34.910 ⇒ 00:57:37.839 Uttam Kumaran: And Jess used to not really eat a lot of tofu.
169 00:57:38.480 ⇒ 00:57:44.520 Uttam Kumaran: And now she’s like, it’s… it’s great. It’s like, we both, like, love it. It’s a good replacement for stuff.
170 00:57:44.830 ⇒ 00:57:45.460 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
171 00:57:47.180 ⇒ 00:57:50.270 Robert Tseng: Cool. Did you buy your flights yet for, Christmas?
172 00:57:50.880 ⇒ 00:57:57.819 Uttam Kumaran: Well, dude, this, the… well, my… my… I totally… well, I, I actually didn’t… they didn’t tell me, like, until recently.
173 00:57:57.980 ⇒ 00:57:59.370 Uttam Kumaran: But,
174 00:58:01.320 ⇒ 00:58:07.350 Uttam Kumaran: They’re going to India for, like, during that time, so I’m not sure whether we’re gonna… Oh, yeah.
175 00:58:07.350 ⇒ 00:58:10.150 Robert Tseng: Okay. Yeah, it probably does make sense for you to go back there.
176 00:58:10.660 ⇒ 00:58:12.239 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I’m not sure…
177 00:58:15.720 ⇒ 00:58:18.770 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not sure at the moment whether we’re gonna come or not, so…
178 00:58:18.770 ⇒ 00:58:19.480 Robert Tseng: Okay.
179 00:58:19.550 ⇒ 00:58:20.720 Uttam Kumaran: No worries.
180 00:58:20.810 ⇒ 00:58:21.540 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
181 00:58:23.620 ⇒ 00:58:28.469 Robert Tseng: Well, if you… if you wanted to go to the Bay, and you wanted to…
182 00:58:28.470 ⇒ 00:58:29.299 Uttam Kumaran: Well, actually, I got…
183 00:58:29.300 ⇒ 00:58:30.450 Robert Tseng: I don’t know, maybe I…
184 00:58:30.450 ⇒ 00:58:33.069 Uttam Kumaran: We could do a weekend, like, I don’t know, it could be nice.
185 00:58:33.240 ⇒ 00:58:33.900 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
186 00:58:37.190 ⇒ 00:58:38.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
187 00:58:38.450 ⇒ 00:58:41.990 Robert Tseng: I was gonna say that you and Jess are welcome to stay at my parents’ place as well.
188 00:58:41.990 ⇒ 00:58:43.010 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, appreciate it.
189 00:58:43.010 ⇒ 00:58:44.040 Robert Tseng: 32, yeah.
190 00:58:48.100 ⇒ 00:58:50.150 Uttam Kumaran: The Element Lady just texted me.
191 00:58:51.550 ⇒ 00:58:52.510 Robert Tseng: Okay.
192 00:58:54.030 ⇒ 00:58:56.940 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, so, let’s see, hopefully we win this.
193 00:59:00.840 ⇒ 00:59:03.450 Robert Tseng: I just, requested access to the dock.
194 00:59:08.550 ⇒ 00:59:09.330 Robert Tseng: Okay.
195 00:59:09.890 ⇒ 00:59:14.400 Robert Tseng: So, I’ll just look through this… Anyways…
196 01:00:25.650 ⇒ 01:00:31.549 Robert Tseng: And yeah, for the, for the rep, for Magic Spoon, how do you… how do you want me to ask, like, what do you want me to ask them to…
197 01:00:32.040 ⇒ 01:00:32.560 Robert Tseng: Yep.
198 01:00:32.560 ⇒ 01:00:37.010 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess if we have to do that before, like, what should we do? Like, we can just, like, yeah.
199 01:00:37.760 ⇒ 01:00:41.439 Robert Tseng: I mean, we can just… we should come up with, like, a…
200 01:00:42.230 ⇒ 01:00:46.150 Robert Tseng: Structured question, and just be like.
201 01:00:47.800 ⇒ 01:00:54.369 Uttam Kumaran: Like, we… so yeah, how does it work? Like, we ask them to just reply, or are we, like, connecting them over a meeting, or what is it?
202 01:00:56.030 ⇒ 01:01:02.439 Robert Tseng: Well, if… if they just ask for a reference, we just give them the number, I guess.
203 01:01:02.440 ⇒ 01:01:03.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
204 01:01:03.290 ⇒ 01:01:11.380 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we can just… we’re giving the contact info. I was gonna look at back, like, the messages I sent, when I was asking for reviews.
205 01:01:11.570 ⇒ 01:01:17.360 Robert Tseng: basically coming up with something like that to give, I guess, Zach and Josh a heads up, like, hey.
206 01:01:17.830 ⇒ 01:01:24.120 Robert Tseng: you know, so-and-so might reach out, like, appreciate if you could just tell them XYZ things, or whatever.
207 01:01:27.160 ⇒ 01:01:28.430 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Yeah.
208 01:01:28.430 ⇒ 01:01:32.890 Robert Tseng: Timeline that message I used to send. I forgot.
209 01:02:01.050 ⇒ 01:02:10.200 Uttam Kumaran: We’re, in the final round review for this, there’s, like, another… Dbt… data engineer.
210 01:02:10.300 ⇒ 01:02:11.060 Uttam Kumaran: And…
211 01:02:11.060 ⇒ 01:02:11.760 Robert Tseng: Okay.
212 01:02:13.960 ⇒ 01:02:17.940 Uttam Kumaran: He worked for Fivetran for a while, and then worked for…
213 01:02:18.780 ⇒ 01:02:24.960 Uttam Kumaran: Spotify and a couple firms, like Good Guy, like, kind of, like, similar background to Awash and Demolade.
214 01:02:25.100 ⇒ 01:02:29.719 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll probably… Yeah, just kind of, like, same.
215 01:02:29.720 ⇒ 01:02:30.320 Robert Tseng: Another one?
216 01:02:31.590 ⇒ 01:02:32.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, just one thing.
217 01:02:32.410 ⇒ 01:02:33.299 Robert Tseng: From him, okay.
218 01:02:33.300 ⇒ 01:02:36.410 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think… well, yeah, if…
219 01:02:36.850 ⇒ 01:02:40.909 Uttam Kumaran: Like, if we get these two, we’re gonna need one more person, for sure.
220 01:02:41.120 ⇒ 01:02:41.680 Robert Tseng: Okay.
221 01:02:41.680 ⇒ 01:02:48.760 Uttam Kumaran: like, and I’m… I basically want to backfill Awash where… and have him come with me. So, like, for Eden, for example.
222 01:02:49.200 ⇒ 01:02:52.660 Uttam Kumaran: I would like a way to sort of just transition his stuff.
223 01:02:53.170 ⇒ 01:03:00.709 Uttam Kumaran: either to New Dude, or, like, on… we just moved, sort of, the more mature clients off to, like, the newer people.
224 01:03:00.930 ⇒ 01:03:05.600 Uttam Kumaran: Because, like, for example, for, like, CES, for Element, for…
225 01:03:06.130 ⇒ 01:03:10.150 Uttam Kumaran: for new clients, like, I think it… I just have to bring, like.
226 01:03:11.370 ⇒ 01:03:20.370 Uttam Kumaran: basically, it’s a good… me, you, Demolade, away from anything data modeling. That’s kind of the only people I can… and then I want to just hand off that stuff to him, but…
227 01:03:21.020 ⇒ 01:03:21.800 Robert Tseng: Okay.
228 01:03:21.800 ⇒ 01:03:22.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
229 01:03:24.350 ⇒ 01:03:28.589 Uttam Kumaran: He’s just gonna… I think he’ll ideally just start, like, 10 or 20 hours, so…
230 01:03:29.090 ⇒ 01:03:29.790 Robert Tseng: Great.
231 01:05:57.540 ⇒ 01:05:58.970 Robert Tseng: They said 3-week sprints.
232 01:06:00.800 ⇒ 01:06:05.440 Uttam Kumaran: They said their company operates on 3-week sprints, and then a 1-week cool-down.
233 01:06:07.400 ⇒ 01:06:10.280 Robert Tseng: Whatever the heck that means, but… great.
234 01:06:10.500 ⇒ 01:06:14.930 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, I don’t know, I said… I said, fine.
235 01:06:17.770 ⇒ 01:06:20.910 Robert Tseng: Maybe we should go back to two-week sprints, dude, I don’t know.
236 01:06:21.830 ⇒ 01:06:25.690 Robert Tseng: I feel like the one-week quality is… it’s not… it’s not great.
237 01:06:26.920 ⇒ 01:06:32.809 Robert Tseng: And we just end up, like, kind of just duplicating a lot of stuff. Most of the stuff carries over to 2 weeks anyway.
238 01:06:34.440 ⇒ 01:06:39.270 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine. I don’t mind if it carries to 2 weeks, but I guess my point is more of, like.
239 01:06:40.850 ⇒ 01:06:41.650 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know.
240 01:06:42.130 ⇒ 01:06:47.310 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, like, e… I, I, frankly, I don’t care.
241 01:06:47.510 ⇒ 01:06:55.469 Uttam Kumaran: I just, like, this is what I can basically manage, like, wake up on Monday and be like, what needs to get out by Friday? Like, I can wrap my head around that.
242 01:06:56.110 ⇒ 01:07:00.090 Uttam Kumaran: Two-week, and, like, sort of the structuring and scheduling, like.
243 01:07:00.540 ⇒ 01:07:02.610 Uttam Kumaran: That’s just too much. Also, like.
244 01:07:03.010 ⇒ 01:07:08.950 Uttam Kumaran: tasks take up the time you give it, so I don’t think there’s anything we’re doing that takes, like, 2 weeks.
245 01:07:09.240 ⇒ 01:07:10.729 Uttam Kumaran: Just break it down.
246 01:07:11.120 ⇒ 01:07:12.399 Uttam Kumaran: So, I don’t know, I mean…
247 01:07:13.790 ⇒ 01:07:19.330 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I don’t care. It’s just what, like, what I felt like we could… was just gonna keep moving the needle forward.
248 01:07:19.730 ⇒ 01:07:20.280 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
249 01:07:20.410 ⇒ 01:07:21.200 Robert Tseng: Okay.
250 01:09:15.340 ⇒ 01:09:18.560 Robert Tseng: I guess the staged gated flow is kind of like your…
251 01:09:18.910 ⇒ 01:09:21.499 Robert Tseng: recap about the phases, I guess?
252 01:09:21.790 ⇒ 01:09:31.140 Robert Tseng: That part’s a little bit unclear. I mean, it’s not that it’s unclear, I’m just like, well, I don’t know if this is what they wanted to see there. I mean, the Gantt kind of already covers that, but…
253 01:09:31.140 ⇒ 01:09:42.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if you, if you want to even remove that, we can just say, like, Gantt covers… Yeah. Basically, this is, like, what was, like, what I used to just drive, like, the initial structure for the Gantt chart.
254 01:09:44.009 ⇒ 01:09:46.179 Robert Tseng: the timeline, I might take that out too.
255 01:09:46.180 ⇒ 01:09:46.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
256 01:09:46.550 ⇒ 01:09:48.040 Robert Tseng: Just visualize that.
257 01:09:49.130 ⇒ 01:09:54.170 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so they can just see deliverables, success metrics, yeah, I think that’s clear enough.
258 01:09:54.980 ⇒ 01:10:01.310 Robert Tseng: Risk and mitigations, I don’t know if you like the table format that we had in other ones.
259 01:10:01.310 ⇒ 01:10:03.259 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I like that, that’s fine.
260 01:10:03.260 ⇒ 01:10:05.650 Robert Tseng: Okay, let’s just do the table, okay.
261 01:10:29.550 ⇒ 01:10:33.269 Robert Tseng: Rachel, you think Nishan Shushi, though. Whatever that one.
262 01:10:33.390 ⇒ 01:10:35.600 Robert Tseng: I need, like, another 10 minutes.
263 01:10:35.970 ⇒ 01:10:36.800 Robert Tseng: Bouton.
264 01:10:40.200 ⇒ 01:10:41.700 Robert Tseng: I don’t know if you can hear me.
265 01:10:43.630 ⇒ 01:10:44.700 Robert Tseng: Excessional panel.
266 01:10:45.330 ⇒ 01:10:48.579 Robert Tseng: You have to, like, come closer to my… my mic is here.
267 01:10:48.980 ⇒ 01:10:49.869 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you.
268 01:10:50.410 ⇒ 01:10:51.590 Robert Tseng: Aye.
269 01:10:52.710 ⇒ 01:10:56.499 Robert Tseng: He’s just, she’s just, like, calling you, I’m Tom.
270 01:11:05.590 ⇒ 01:11:08.359 Robert Tseng: You, you, you go first, you take longer than I do.
271 01:14:43.140 ⇒ 01:14:46.149 Robert Tseng: We have to upgrade Shivani in order to give her access.
272 01:14:48.270 ⇒ 01:14:52.339 Uttam Kumaran: And to me, I just… I just paid for the account.
273 01:14:52.970 ⇒ 01:14:53.889 Robert Tseng: For her account.
274 01:14:54.210 ⇒ 01:14:54.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
275 01:14:56.810 ⇒ 01:14:59.879 Robert Tseng: Yeah, because I was just trying to share it, and then on things I can.
276 01:15:01.440 ⇒ 01:15:03.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I just… I just invited her directly.
277 01:15:04.090 ⇒ 01:15:04.690 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
278 01:15:06.430 ⇒ 01:15:06.889 Uttam Kumaran: I don’.
279 01:15:06.890 ⇒ 01:15:10.039 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I don’t think this is actually shareable. Oh, interesting.
280 01:15:10.510 ⇒ 01:15:12.919 Uttam Kumaran: No, I think you can share, like, a view of it.
281 01:15:13.150 ⇒ 01:15:14.949 Robert Tseng: Let me see…
282 01:15:15.150 ⇒ 01:15:21.110 Uttam Kumaran: like, if you go to export and share… Export and share, yeah.
283 01:15:21.340 ⇒ 01:15:23.100 Uttam Kumaran: a public snapshot.
284 01:15:31.920 ⇒ 01:15:32.620 Robert Tseng: Right.
285 01:15:47.340 ⇒ 01:15:50.259 Robert Tseng: Alright, I mean, I think I went through it, looks good.
286 01:15:51.550 ⇒ 01:15:52.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
287 01:16:02.540 ⇒ 01:16:08.159 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so… It was right, I’ll just email it right now.
288 01:16:51.100 ⇒ 01:16:56.520 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, hopefully this CES thing just keeps pushing, just… Slowly…
289 01:16:56.780 ⇒ 01:17:00.480 Uttam Kumaran: She does your jobs there, that’d be so nice.
290 01:17:00.710 ⇒ 01:17:01.470 Robert Tseng: Haha.
291 01:17:17.080 ⇒ 01:17:18.719 Robert Tseng: Rip Bitcoin.
292 01:17:23.910 ⇒ 01:17:28.199 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve stopped, dude, I’m so off following any markets.
293 01:17:30.240 ⇒ 01:17:31.040 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
294 01:17:34.520 ⇒ 01:17:35.290 Robert Tseng: That’s sad.
295 01:17:35.680 ⇒ 01:17:37.880 Robert Tseng: Less, less things to worry about.
296 01:17:38.230 ⇒ 01:17:39.610 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I.
297 01:17:53.690 ⇒ 01:17:57.339 Robert Tseng: I mean, I’m not doing anything crazy in crypto. I just have one Bitcoin.
298 01:17:58.530 ⇒ 01:17:59.820 Uttam Kumaran: Let’s go!
299 01:18:00.980 ⇒ 01:18:02.340 Uttam Kumaran: Dude, that’s good.
300 01:18:03.000 ⇒ 01:18:03.690 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
301 01:18:04.540 ⇒ 01:18:09.179 Robert Tseng: I, I, I, I, I mined it in, in college.
302 01:18:10.420 ⇒ 01:18:11.850 Uttam Kumaran: What the hell, that’s sick.
303 01:18:12.270 ⇒ 01:18:12.960 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
304 01:18:13.400 ⇒ 01:18:15.929 Robert Tseng: That’s how I bought my van, dude, and my motorcycle.
305 01:19:25.800 ⇒ 01:19:28.279 Robert Tseng: No, I don’t know, we work, IPO’d in India.
306 01:19:30.540 ⇒ 01:19:31.769 Uttam Kumaran: When was that, recently?
307 01:19:32.440 ⇒ 01:19:34.460 Robert Tseng: In October, yeah, late October.
308 01:21:15.800 ⇒ 01:21:18.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, she’s in the dock, so…
309 01:21:20.000 ⇒ 01:21:20.650 Robert Tseng: Okay.
310 01:21:22.030 ⇒ 01:21:29.090 Uttam Kumaran: And then… is there anything specifically I should put in the email?
311 01:21:29.420 ⇒ 01:21:31.570 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, like…
312 01:21:46.420 ⇒ 01:21:54.340 Uttam Kumaran: It’s been great to chat. Please see… please see below the structured proposal, including incorporating…
313 01:21:57.270 ⇒ 01:22:03.930 Uttam Kumaran: Incorporating feedback from our conversation, as well as the Gantt chart for us to collaborate on,
314 01:22:05.700 ⇒ 01:22:10.170 Uttam Kumaran: I’m going to link this… okay, you put the master plan there…
315 01:22:10.730 ⇒ 01:22:11.340 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
316 01:22:16.600 ⇒ 01:22:22.200 Uttam Kumaran: We’d be looking for feedback on sequencing.
317 01:22:29.390 ⇒ 01:22:36.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I don’t think they’re gonna really anchor onto the deliverables. I think they just care about… seems like they just care about, like, how we’re planning the project.
318 01:22:36.630 ⇒ 01:22:37.310 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
319 01:22:37.550 ⇒ 01:22:38.090 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
320 01:22:40.770 ⇒ 01:23:03.969 Uttam Kumaran: in the Gantt… We’ve included… the core phases… from… Discovery… to… from… Discovery to ingestion… Doing modeling, and then…
321 01:23:04.220 ⇒ 01:23:07.750 Uttam Kumaran: towards… Value…
322 01:23:21.250 ⇒ 01:23:23.020 Uttam Kumaran: We’ve indicated…
323 01:23:27.430 ⇒ 01:23:35.910 Uttam Kumaran: We’ve indicated… dependencies… And key checkpoints…
324 01:23:41.500 ⇒ 01:23:52.760 Uttam Kumaran: In particular… There are some important vendor decisions to make that we want to carve.
325 01:23:53.040 ⇒ 01:23:54.160 Uttam Kumaran: Dying.
326 01:23:58.070 ⇒ 01:24:00.080 Uttam Kumaran: that PIN unlaw.
327 01:24:32.770 ⇒ 01:24:42.170 Uttam Kumaran: We’d be looking for feedback on sequencing… Or…
328 01:24:44.900 ⇒ 01:24:51.880 Uttam Kumaran: Nate, we were looking for feedback on… sequencing… or missing…
329 01:24:52.390 ⇒ 01:24:59.610 Uttam Kumaran: That’s milestones. In the game, we’ve included the core phases from discovery to ingestion to modeling, then towards outputs.
330 01:25:00.790 ⇒ 01:25:15.179 Uttam Kumaran: Analysis… Analysis, dashboards… Alerts… Exceptional… Okay, dependencies and key checkpoints.
331 01:25:21.860 ⇒ 01:25:33.110 Uttam Kumaran: sequencing, missing… Substant lockdowns… And layering on… Conditional… polygons…
332 01:25:49.200 ⇒ 01:25:53.220 Uttam Kumaran: Like, NetSuite… Redditance.
333 01:25:53.520 ⇒ 01:25:59.380 Uttam Kumaran: In the game, it goes up for phases, and it becomes… Okay.
334 01:25:59.730 ⇒ 01:26:00.790 Uttam Kumaran: Alright.
335 01:26:06.200 ⇒ 01:26:10.369 Uttam Kumaran: When you… when you send people’s names, do you all… do you do in alphabetical order?
336 01:26:10.650 ⇒ 01:26:13.809 Uttam Kumaran: I always have these, like, interesting quirks when I send emails.
337 01:26:14.510 ⇒ 01:26:19.430 Robert Tseng: I… usually do by, like…
338 01:26:19.430 ⇒ 01:26:20.040 Uttam Kumaran: more important?
339 01:26:20.040 ⇒ 01:26:22.309 Robert Tseng: Yeah, who’s more important comes first.
340 01:26:22.690 ⇒ 01:26:28.300 Uttam Kumaran: I… I thought I used to do that, but then I felt like it was rude, so then now I just do alphabetical.
341 01:26:30.120 ⇒ 01:26:32.069 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, that’s fine, I guess.
342 01:26:32.480 ⇒ 01:26:34.079 Uttam Kumaran: No, I just, I don’t know, I’m just…
343 01:26:34.080 ⇒ 01:26:34.490 Robert Tseng: So…
344 01:26:59.930 ⇒ 01:27:00.600 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
345 01:27:02.490 ⇒ 01:27:04.039 Uttam Kumaran: I’m dropping you.
346 01:27:04.040 ⇒ 01:27:06.539 Robert Tseng: email that you can send to Zach as well.
347 01:27:06.840 ⇒ 01:27:07.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
348 01:27:14.580 ⇒ 01:27:20.079 Robert Tseng: Why do we get your preferences for… Yes, would you mind?
349 01:27:28.000 ⇒ 01:27:31.049 Robert Tseng: Passed along your contact info.
350 01:27:34.270 ⇒ 01:27:36.870 Robert Tseng: Assuming it will be at least,
351 01:30:09.670 ⇒ 01:30:12.589 Robert Tseng: Make sure I just write mine for Polish.
352 01:33:05.030 ⇒ 01:33:06.810 Uttam Kumaran: Wait, but who’s the blurb for?
353 01:33:08.650 ⇒ 01:33:13.779 Robert Tseng: For… for them. Like, moon… moon… moon… whatever.
354 01:33:13.780 ⇒ 01:33:14.670 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wow.
355 01:33:14.960 ⇒ 01:33:21.960 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, so, like, meaning, if Full Moon wants to reach out to you, Yeah, yeah.
356 01:33:23.120 ⇒ 01:33:28.300 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, well, oh, I guess I’ll go to Zach, and then I’ll basically say, like, can I pass for contact info?
357 01:33:28.810 ⇒ 01:33:29.900 Uttam Kumaran: And…
358 01:33:30.310 ⇒ 01:33:43.560 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and then it’s… I mean, you could just leave it at that, and then if it’s, like… but then if they want… if it… I might just pre-draft and be like, hey, well, I mean, if they reach out, like, here’s a pre-drafted, like, email. Oh, I see, I see, I see.
359 01:33:43.560 ⇒ 01:33:45.500 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, okay, okay, gotcha.
360 01:33:46.820 ⇒ 01:33:48.280 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
361 01:33:48.520 ⇒ 01:33:52.629 Robert Tseng: And then you just kind of write it however you want. It’ll make more sense once I write this one for Josh.
362 01:33:52.880 ⇒ 01:33:55.800 Robert Tseng: department, there’s everything.
363 01:33:57.830 ⇒ 01:33:58.740 Robert Tseng: Goodbye.
364 01:35:47.560 ⇒ 01:35:49.810 Robert Tseng: Okay, this is basically what I’m gonna say, Josh.
365 01:35:51.870 ⇒ 01:35:59.249 Robert Tseng: Okay, well, if that… we’re good, I think I might hop off and get ready for bed.
366 01:35:59.820 ⇒ 01:36:09.759 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, okay. I think, yeah, I’ll be up in the morning, and then I’m just gonna kind of, like, do a little bit of mapping of, like, people to clients. The only other thing, also, is I mentioned,
367 01:36:10.260 ⇒ 01:36:15.000 Uttam Kumaran: Alex is, like, thinking about leaving.
368 01:36:15.000 ⇒ 01:36:15.410 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
369 01:36:15.410 ⇒ 01:36:22.040 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna… I’m gonna add to our doc, or somewhere, like, just people.
370 01:36:22.340 ⇒ 01:36:26.480 Uttam Kumaran: And that way we can just start to, like, talk to folks.
371 01:36:26.480 ⇒ 01:36:27.150 Robert Tseng: Okay.
372 01:36:27.990 ⇒ 01:36:37.099 Uttam Kumaran: I think as much as we can get into, like, a pre-read, it would be great, because I don’t… I don’t want to waste our times, like, talking to people that, like.
373 01:36:37.450 ⇒ 01:36:41.450 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, I want the conversation to be, like, Pretty direct.
374 01:36:41.630 ⇒ 01:36:42.240 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
375 01:36:42.560 ⇒ 01:36:53.330 Uttam Kumaran: And then I’ll also grab time with Clarence. I think that’ll… that’ll help us just even map… map out the… the next org structure, and then we can use that as part of the pre-read, too, so…
376 01:36:53.670 ⇒ 01:36:55.189 Robert Tseng: Okay, sounds good.
377 01:36:55.190 ⇒ 01:36:57.960 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Thanks, dude. I’ll talk to you tomorrow.
378 01:36:57.960 ⇒ 01:36:58.840 Robert Tseng: Thank you later. Bye.
379 01:36:58.840 ⇒ 01:36:59.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, bye.