Meeting Title: Amber-Hannah Weekly Check-in Date: 2025-11-04 Meeting participants: Hannah Wang, Amber Lin


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1 00:01:15.440 00:01:16.710 Amber Lin: Hello!

2 00:01:19.030 00:01:20.200 Hannah Wang: Hello?

3 00:01:21.760 00:01:23.290 Amber Lin: How are you?

4 00:01:24.430 00:01:29.279 Hannah Wang: Hanging in there. How are you?

5 00:01:30.910 00:01:36.919 Amber Lin: I… I mean, today is less busy, but…

6 00:01:37.120 00:01:41.760 Amber Lin: I think… you know that I’m doing new analysis work, and it’s just…

7 00:01:41.870 00:02:00.029 Amber Lin: it’s interesting for new stuff, so I do it, and I don’t know if it’s good, and sometimes it’s good, sometimes it’s okay, and so it’s like, it also takes a lot of time, so I just don’t know where, like, how good am I? So, my confidence is going up and down and up and down.

8 00:02:00.200 00:02:09.440 Hannah Wang: I, I totally feel that. That’s how I feel with the go-to-market stuff all the time. Do you like it, though? You enjoy it?

9 00:02:09.449 00:02:14.069 Amber Lin: I think I like it. It’s more… it’s more interesting, and I can…

10 00:02:14.269 00:02:22.509 Amber Lin: there’s more stuff to do, because if you’re PMing, the only thing you get better at is

11 00:02:23.449 00:02:32.669 Amber Lin: like, organizing or getting tickets better and pushing things through better. It’s more of a skill, there’s not much knowledge.

12 00:02:33.349 00:02:36.399 Amber Lin: Involved, and it’s a little bit…

13 00:02:36.689 00:02:47.429 Amber Lin: less variable, versus analysis, like, each analysis is different. Like, the questions and then what you’re trying to ask is also different.

14 00:02:47.730 00:02:48.480 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

15 00:02:48.600 00:02:53.210 Hannah Wang: That, yeah, it changes per project, I guess.

16 00:02:53.710 00:02:54.210 Amber Lin: Yeah.

17 00:02:54.210 00:02:59.689 Hannah Wang: Which I feel like you said you like, right? Like, new stuff? I mean, it’s challenging, but…

18 00:02:59.690 00:03:00.350 Amber Lin: Hmm.

19 00:03:01.600 00:03:11.309 Amber Lin: I do like it. Oh, Uptam asked us if we want to get coffee, like, weekly or monthly.

20 00:03:12.040 00:03:17.479 Amber Lin: working sessions together, and then we can get coffee or lunch on him. What do you think?

21 00:03:17.480 00:03:19.710 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, sure, let’s do it.

22 00:03:19.710 00:03:20.430 Amber Lin: Yeah.

23 00:03:20.840 00:03:27.639 Hannah Wang: Yeah, my schedule… I came back from… did we talk after I came back from the.

24 00:03:27.640 00:03:28.000 Amber Lin: Yeah.

25 00:03:28.000 00:03:29.680 Hannah Wang: I don’t think so. Oh, we did?

26 00:03:30.640 00:03:30.960 Hannah Wang: Oh.

27 00:03:30.960 00:03:34.050 Amber Lin: Right after you came back, we moved the meeting a day.

28 00:03:34.050 00:03:40.760 Hannah Wang: Oh, right. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow, that felt like a lifetime ago.

29 00:03:40.940 00:03:47.820 Hannah Wang: Okay, let’s… we can aim for… let’s do…

30 00:03:48.030 00:03:57.079 Hannah Wang: once a month for now, and then maybe we can do top of the month. Well, that’s today, but maybe

31 00:03:57.390 00:04:00.869 Hannah Wang: We can just decide per month what Tuesday we want to.

32 00:04:01.100 00:04:02.349 Hannah Wang: To co-work from…

33 00:04:02.350 00:04:02.800 Amber Lin: Okay.

34 00:04:02.800 00:04:04.200 Hannah Wang: And then go from there.

35 00:04:04.300 00:04:06.410 Hannah Wang: I…

36 00:04:07.400 00:04:14.769 Hannah Wang: I’m free… I mean, every Tuesday looks the same for me, but maybe not the week of Thanksgiving.

37 00:04:15.040 00:04:16.450 Hannah Wang: giving, because…

38 00:04:17.000 00:04:25.650 Hannah Wang: It’s just the holiday, so… we can aim for… Maybe… Let’s see…

39 00:04:26.160 00:04:27.600 Amber Lin: And…

40 00:04:27.600 00:04:31.649 Hannah Wang: Yeah, 11th or 18th, either one is okay for me.

41 00:04:31.800 00:04:35.479 Amber Lin: Do we get day offs for Veterans Day?

42 00:04:35.490 00:04:38.319 Hannah Wang: Oh, I… don’t know.

43 00:04:38.320 00:04:40.350 Amber Lin: I hope so, but I don’t know.

44 00:04:40.350 00:04:46.090 Hannah Wang: If we do, then we can do the 18th. If we don’t, then we can do the 11th.

45 00:04:46.640 00:04:49.130 Amber Lin: Okay, let me… let me see…

46 00:04:50.280 00:05:01.690 Hannah Wang: Because I know we didn’t get, like, one of the holidays off, I forgot what it was, but a lot of social, like, government people get it off, but we didn’t, so I don’t know if Veterans Day is similar.

47 00:05:03.250 00:05:04.060 Amber Lin: Hmm.

48 00:05:05.390 00:05:24.629 Amber Lin: it’s… it seems like people have it off, because I would go to… I’m… I’m taking the 17th off to go to Six Flags, and it seems… I looked at the calendar, and I was like, oh, wow, the 11th is open, and it says, yup, it’s packed, which probably means

49 00:05:24.710 00:05:31.190 Amber Lin: people are off, so they go to Six Flags. So, we might be off, we just have to ask.

50 00:05:31.840 00:05:34.990 Hannah Wang: Wait, you’re going to Six Flags on the 17th?

51 00:05:35.180 00:05:38.420 Amber Lin: On a Monday, because it’s a ghost town, it’s empty.

52 00:05:38.420 00:05:42.369 Hannah Wang: Oh, or are you just going with, Nico?

53 00:05:42.610 00:05:43.200 Amber Lin: Yeah.

54 00:05:43.480 00:05:45.290 Hannah Wang: Oh my gosh, have you been before?

55 00:05:45.290 00:05:49.290 Amber Lin: I’ve… I’ve been… Nico got a annual pass, so…

56 00:05:49.290 00:05:50.060 Hannah Wang: We get…

57 00:05:50.060 00:05:56.179 Amber Lin: another… Free ticket. Let me send this holiday here.

58 00:05:58.080 00:06:10.120 Hannah Wang: I, as I get older, I cannot handle roller coasters anymore, but I used to love Six Flags. I just don’t think I can ride the rides anymore.

59 00:06:11.040 00:06:11.950 Hannah Wang: I am…

60 00:06:12.260 00:06:13.799 Amber Lin: I’m getting old.

61 00:06:18.440 00:06:23.970 Amber Lin: Okay, send the question in Brainforward channel.

62 00:06:23.970 00:06:28.109 Hannah Wang: Ugh, I would like to have another day off. That would be nice.

63 00:06:28.110 00:06:29.650 Amber Lin: Yeah, I agree.

64 00:06:29.650 00:06:35.230 Hannah Wang: Did you end up going to… I saw your message about the… is it Color Me Mine? That’s in Culver City.

65 00:06:35.230 00:06:36.170 Amber Lin: Yeah.

66 00:06:36.170 00:06:37.059 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I’ve been there.

67 00:06:37.060 00:06:38.350 Amber Lin: a couple times.

68 00:06:38.350 00:06:39.740 Hannah Wang: Did you end up going to, like.

69 00:06:39.740 00:06:47.070 Amber Lin: Yeah, let me… I went to the one Culver City, I just got my… Stuff back…

70 00:06:47.760 00:06:52.929 Amber Lin: Let me send you my… my results.

71 00:06:53.070 00:06:53.560 Amber Lin: Very…

72 00:06:53.560 00:06:56.089 Hannah Wang: Did you go to the Color Me Mine?

73 00:06:56.090 00:06:56.940 Amber Lin: Yeah.

74 00:06:56.940 00:06:57.510 Hannah Wang: I went there.

75 00:06:57.510 00:07:04.619 Amber Lin: And I also took a throwing class, and my paws ended up being so ugly.

76 00:07:04.620 00:07:05.240 Hannah Wang: Oh.

77 00:07:05.240 00:07:06.420 Amber Lin: So sad.

78 00:07:07.830 00:07:10.219 Hannah Wang: It’s hard. Throwing is not easy.

79 00:07:10.220 00:07:16.339 Amber Lin: I know, it just completely… it was fine, and then I just… and then it… and it was not anymore.

80 00:07:16.340 00:07:17.020 Hannah Wang: Yep.

81 00:07:17.300 00:07:20.300 Amber Lin: I really like the draw, I sent you the photo.

82 00:07:20.870 00:07:25.810 Hannah Wang: Oh, wait, what the heck?

83 00:07:26.990 00:07:28.820 Hannah Wang: You’re so good!

84 00:07:31.310 00:07:32.609 Amber Lin: What can you not.

85 00:07:32.610 00:07:32.950 Hannah Wang: do.

86 00:07:32.950 00:07:33.750 Amber Lin: Happy.

87 00:07:33.750 00:07:35.680 Hannah Wang: You, like, can do everything.

88 00:07:35.680 00:07:42.350 Amber Lin: They couldn’t throw! Okay, but, like, not a lot of people… Look at the stuff behind.

89 00:07:42.970 00:07:44.630 Amber Lin: That’s right.

90 00:07:44.930 00:07:47.880 Hannah Wang: Mine just broke and fell asleep.

91 00:07:47.880 00:07:51.810 Amber Lin: times, and I gave up, and I was like, whatever, you can, you can fire them.

92 00:07:51.810 00:08:10.370 Hannah Wang: That’s so funny. I… yeah, my… I’m gonna go on this Sunday to glaze, or, like, color it, to the… for the one that I made, so I forgot what my… what mine looked like, but I’ll send you photos once… Oh, okay. I want to take more classes, too.

93 00:08:10.880 00:08:12.820 Hannah Wang: It is fun, yeah.

94 00:08:12.820 00:08:14.760 Amber Lin: It’s fun, but also a little bit expensive.

95 00:08:14.760 00:08:15.579 Hannah Wang: I’m like…

96 00:08:15.580 00:08:26.359 Amber Lin: go to the same studio again. I think the instructor is way too ener… too high energy for me. I can’t handle it after a day of work.

97 00:08:26.360 00:08:26.850 Hannah Wang: Wellness.

98 00:08:26.850 00:08:36.289 Amber Lin: sit there and not talk and throw. I don’t want to interact with that energy. I know.

99 00:08:36.309 00:08:39.549 Hannah Wang: Did you… which, throw class…

100 00:08:39.740 00:08:43.329 Amber Lin: Which studio did you go to? I went to the Good Third LA, just because.

101 00:08:43.330 00:08:43.780 Hannah Wang: Okay.

102 00:08:43.780 00:08:45.550 Amber Lin: affiliated with…

103 00:08:45.810 00:09:04.859 Amber Lin: a, like, membership-based pottery studio next to me, that they only do memberships, and it’s like, oh, you, for a month, you get one or two bags of dirt, you get, depending on what membership you get, you can get a home wheel, and then you get, firing credits.

104 00:09:05.260 00:09:08.129 Amber Lin: More of, if you’re going to do this, then

105 00:09:08.350 00:09:11.709 Amber Lin: And you know what you wanna do, then it’s a pretty…

106 00:09:11.930 00:09:15.629 Amber Lin: Nice way to just have more flexibility.

107 00:09:15.630 00:09:17.340 Hannah Wang: I see.

108 00:09:17.340 00:09:18.190 Amber Lin: Yeah.

109 00:09:18.610 00:09:24.470 Hannah Wang: Oh, I didn’t know there was a Color Me Mine over there. I have one super close to me, it’s like…

110 00:09:25.210 00:09:34.330 Hannah Wang: a 3-minute drive, but I don’t… how did you… like, when you draw… or when you painted it, like, did you look at something, or did you just…

111 00:09:34.790 00:09:50.370 Amber Lin: I… I… for a whole week, I was looking at references, that’s what prompted me to actually go, so I looked… I saw a lot of people’s really, really cool drawings. I see. And then I sketched and… and did that.

112 00:09:50.370 00:09:50.930 Hannah Wang: Wow.

113 00:09:50.930 00:09:56.089 Amber Lin: Do transfers, like, they’re… Little transfer things that you could do.

114 00:09:56.320 00:09:58.929 Hannah Wang: Oh, right. Like the… a template.

115 00:09:58.930 00:10:00.190 Amber Lin: Type of thing.

116 00:10:00.190 00:10:07.669 Hannah Wang: I mean, I… I took drawing lessons as a kid, so it’s still in there, but…

117 00:10:07.670 00:10:08.230 Amber Lin: Hmm.

118 00:10:08.230 00:10:09.250 Hannah Wang: I just, like…

119 00:10:09.390 00:10:15.260 Hannah Wang: yours is so good. I… I’ve been twice to color me mine, and both times, like, I…

120 00:10:16.260 00:10:26.110 Hannah Wang: well, the second time I went, mine broke when they were firing it, so they gave me a refund, but I was like, that’s fine.

121 00:10:26.110 00:10:26.840 Amber Lin: Yeah, I…

122 00:10:26.840 00:10:27.160 Hannah Wang: Yes.

123 00:10:27.160 00:10:36.869 Amber Lin: about that, too. I was so scared, because I sat there from… I didn’t even realize the time passed. I sat there from, like, 2.30 to 8.

124 00:10:38.330 00:10:43.099 Amber Lin: So it did take a very, very long time, but it was pretty… it was pretty nice.

125 00:10:43.420 00:10:45.499 Hannah Wang: And they didn’t kick you out, that’s nice.

126 00:10:45.500 00:10:51.280 Amber Lin: No, it was just because there was extra C’s, and it was also Halloween, like, the Friday.

127 00:10:51.990 00:10:58.449 Amber Lin: of Halloween… no, it was, like, a weekend, it was a Halloween, so there was a lot of kids walking around.

128 00:10:58.450 00:11:07.439 Hannah Wang: Aww. And so, they came in, trick-or-treated, and went out, so they were also very busy. I see. Oh, that’s so cute.

129 00:11:07.640 00:11:08.849 Hannah Wang: Oh my goodness.

130 00:11:09.700 00:11:14.849 Hannah Wang: Ugh, okay. Yeah, if you ever… I mean, I’m like…

131 00:11:15.400 00:11:28.840 Hannah Wang: Or recently, Eric and I did have a budget day, and I was like, alright, I gotta be a little bit more, not that I spend a lot of money, but, I do like to do, like, activities with friends once in a while, but…

132 00:11:28.840 00:11:37.569 Amber Lin: Yeah, these activities feel small, but they… they pile up so fast. They’re expensive, yeah.

133 00:11:38.850 00:11:54.420 Amber Lin: Yeah, and if you want to go often, it’s just gonna… That’s why I looked at the… looked at the studio, the memberships. If it’s just hand building, I think it’s 160-something, so it would be…

134 00:11:55.540 00:11:57.179 Amber Lin: It would be pretty.

135 00:11:57.620 00:11:59.010 Amber Lin: Pretty simple.

136 00:11:59.010 00:11:59.770 Hannah Wang: Hmm.

137 00:12:00.730 00:12:10.560 Hannah Wang: Oh, life. It’s… living is… everything costs money. It’s insane how expensive things are.

138 00:12:10.830 00:12:16.240 Hannah Wang: But wait, did you… one random question, did you end up getting your visa stuff figured out?

139 00:12:16.530 00:12:19.870 Hannah Wang: Or is that still not a… is this still ongoing?

140 00:12:20.320 00:12:23.089 Amber Lin: The government is still shut down.

141 00:12:23.090 00:12:24.310 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah.

142 00:12:24.580 00:12:32.100 Amber Lin: the… so they are still… essentially, so the… what is it? E-Verify decision’s not done yet.

143 00:12:32.220 00:12:33.620 Hannah Wang: And so…

144 00:12:33.620 00:12:37.580 Amber Lin: I need to wait for our company is E-Verified.

145 00:12:37.610 00:12:39.939 Hannah Wang: Right. To send…

146 00:12:39.940 00:12:47.080 Amber Lin: Like, what to… to send in my application. But I… I should still have some time.

147 00:12:48.000 00:12:55.030 Hannah Wang: Well, I feel like the government has been down for a long time now. That’s kind of crazy.

148 00:12:56.530 00:13:03.329 Hannah Wang: I don’t know in the past how long it’s been shut down for, but… Seems like a long time.

149 00:13:03.820 00:13:05.260 Hannah Wang: This time.

150 00:13:05.800 00:13:07.650 Hannah Wang: I see. Okay.

151 00:13:08.900 00:13:14.329 Hannah Wang: Ugh, how’s the rest of your week looking, in terms of… Meetings and…

152 00:13:15.250 00:13:29.390 Amber Lin: You know, now that Utum’s running all the stand-ups, my mornings are… my meeting volume has went down significantly, and I really, really like that. It’s just Port Uten has to run all this stuff, but.

153 00:13:29.390 00:13:29.940 Hannah Wang: I know.

154 00:13:29.940 00:13:40.510 Amber Lin: objectively a better PM than me, just because he knows what we’re doing. And sometimes, like, I can only say, hey, do this ticket, I don’t know what considerations they have of should

155 00:13:40.510 00:13:50.649 Amber Lin: They do this ticket versus the other ticket, and what they’re actually stuck on, it just might take time, hey, have you tried that? They’re like, oh, I haven’t tried that. I wouldn’t know.

156 00:13:51.600 00:13:52.390 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

157 00:13:52.620 00:13:54.420 Hannah Wang: He has that technical…

158 00:13:54.680 00:13:57.300 Amber Lin: technical background, I guess. Yeah.

159 00:13:57.300 00:14:09.160 Hannah Wang: That helps. I feel the same way when I try to make case studies. I’m like, I don’t know what half of the stuff they’re saying is, and I… I wish I knew to make the case studies better, but…

160 00:14:09.400 00:14:12.289 Hannah Wang: Oh well, that’s okay.

161 00:14:12.920 00:14:16.170 Hannah Wang: Okay, that’s good.

162 00:14:16.600 00:14:17.440 Amber Lin: Yeah.

163 00:14:21.850 00:14:25.279 Hannah Wang: Almost the holidays. What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

164 00:14:26.540 00:14:30.870 Amber Lin: I think we’re going to Nico’s…

165 00:14:31.140 00:14:40.749 Amber Lin: aunt or uncles here in Santa Monica, because they’re also not going home. Their home is in DC, so… Right.

166 00:14:40.950 00:14:49.250 Amber Lin: we might just go there, but also, I generally don’t celebrate Thanksgiving, just because it’s not a… not a concept to

167 00:14:50.320 00:14:54.029 Amber Lin: So it’s just, we’ll have dinner, and that’s it.

168 00:14:54.030 00:14:56.790 Hannah Wang: I hope they don’t make turkey, because I don’t like turkey.

169 00:14:57.160 00:15:01.370 Hannah Wang: Dude, Thanksgiving is such an American thing. I get it.

170 00:15:01.370 00:15:10.819 Amber Lin: There’s also Thanksgiving in, in Canada, but it’s a month earlier, it’s in October.

171 00:15:11.330 00:15:25.489 Hannah Wang: Oh, fascinating. I did not… did not know that. Yeah, I mean, Thanksgiving is not a huge thing for me, either. I don’t particularly enjoy the food. Like, I’m just like, okay, it’s just turkey and…

172 00:15:25.740 00:15:29.400 Hannah Wang: Cranberries, sauce, and… potatoes.

173 00:15:29.730 00:15:34.519 Amber Lin: Oh, I saw it at Salt and Straws, there was a…

174 00:15:34.520 00:15:34.980 Hannah Wang: Hmm.

175 00:15:34.980 00:15:46.599 Amber Lin: It was a salty ice cream of… it was, like, turkey cooking, like, turkey stuffing and cranberry sauce. It sounded interesting, but also, yeah.

176 00:15:47.100 00:15:52.210 Hannah Wang: It’s probably, like, sweet and, yeah, savory.

177 00:15:52.870 00:15:53.540 Hannah Wang: But…

178 00:15:53.710 00:15:55.349 Amber Lin: 6 sold, but in your…

179 00:15:55.350 00:15:55.750 Hannah Wang: Huh.

180 00:15:55.750 00:15:57.379 Amber Lin: to caramel, so I don’t know.

181 00:15:57.380 00:16:01.430 Hannah Wang: But stuffing is, like, so savory. I don’t…

182 00:16:02.430 00:16:09.700 Hannah Wang: Yeah, nope. Have you been to Wanderlust? They have a lot of Asian…

183 00:16:09.880 00:16:12.090 Hannah Wang: It’s an ice cream store.

184 00:16:12.090 00:16:12.490 Amber Lin: Hmm.

185 00:16:12.490 00:16:30.219 Hannah Wang: There’s one… there’s one nearby, us, I think, but it has a lot of Asian ice cream flavors, if you like those, like ube and, like Black Sesame and stuff, so I prefer Wanderlust over Saltenstraff or ice cream.

186 00:16:30.220 00:16:30.930 Amber Lin: Hmm.

187 00:16:31.290 00:16:37.210 Hannah Wang: And there’s also Jenny’s, like, Jenny’s is a popular ice cream place, too.

188 00:16:37.490 00:16:42.289 Hannah Wang: J-E-N-I, and they, like, sell it in stores, like the tubs, so…

189 00:16:42.290 00:16:43.100 Amber Lin: Oh.

190 00:16:43.100 00:16:48.410 Hannah Wang: Anyway, I think there’s better places than Satan Strah, if you’re looking for…

191 00:16:48.410 00:16:55.040 Amber Lin: Every time I get sauna straw, I get very interested, and then I try it, and it’s way too sweet.

192 00:16:55.040 00:16:56.240 Hannah Wang: Yeah, dude.

193 00:16:56.240 00:16:58.529 Amber Lin: very sweet, and I can’t handle it.

194 00:16:58.530 00:17:02.840 Hannah Wang: I know. That’s most American flavors, though, unfortunately.

195 00:17:02.840 00:17:06.029 Amber Lin: I feel like recently? I don’t know when it happened.

196 00:17:06.380 00:17:14.030 Amber Lin: But I feel like getting… becoming lactose intolerant… Maybe because Nico can’t eat?

197 00:17:14.359 00:17:20.570 Amber Lin: theory, and I a theory in, like, a year or something, so…

198 00:17:20.579 00:17:20.929 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

199 00:17:20.930 00:17:22.669 Amber Lin: My stomach can’t handle…

200 00:17:22.670 00:17:23.090 Hannah Wang: Hahaha.

201 00:17:23.510 00:17:26.760 Amber Lin: lattes. I can’t handle that.

202 00:17:26.760 00:17:27.460 Hannah Wang: Oh…

203 00:17:27.460 00:17:28.319 Amber Lin: Whoa.

204 00:17:29.380 00:17:33.630 Hannah Wang: Welcome! Welcome to the lactose intolerant life.

205 00:17:33.630 00:17:41.940 Amber Lin: I have been here for a while. This lactate, like the… sorry, the medicine that you take?

206 00:17:41.940 00:17:42.950 Hannah Wang: Platini.

207 00:17:43.100 00:17:58.270 Hannah Wang: I… I don’t like taking… I just don’t like taking medicine like that, so… I mean, it does help if I’m gonna eat, like, a heavily dairy meal, but Eric is also lactose intolerant, so we just don’t eat a lot of dairy.

208 00:17:58.270 00:17:58.800 Amber Lin: G.

209 00:17:58.800 00:17:59.980 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

210 00:18:00.650 00:18:04.439 Hannah Wang: And, like, ice cream, I prefer, like, frozen yogurt.

211 00:18:04.440 00:18:05.419 Amber Lin: Mmm, me too.

212 00:18:05.420 00:18:07.600 Hannah Wang: Sweet, and… yeah.

213 00:18:07.600 00:18:08.320 Amber Lin: A lot of…

214 00:18:08.650 00:18:20.850 Amber Lin: A lot of the frozen yogurt stores, do they really… is it really yogurt? I went to Yogurtland, and it tasted like ice cream. I think… I think so, I think…

215 00:18:21.090 00:18:29.450 Hannah Wang: It’s probably… yogurt. It’s lighter, so I’m sure there’s, like, less milk-type things in it.

216 00:18:29.670 00:18:34.400 Hannah Wang: No, but there’s this place called Yoga Urch in Santa Monica.

217 00:18:34.790 00:18:48.140 Hannah Wang: vegan froyo, and it’s so good. If we want to go, we can go sometime. It’s… it’s in Santa Monica, but the other flavors are good, and it’s vegan, so it won’t hurt your… hurt your tummy, but… Okay.

218 00:18:48.140 00:18:48.690 Amber Lin: Okay.

219 00:18:48.690 00:18:50.040 Hannah Wang: There’s that.

220 00:18:50.040 00:18:50.820 Amber Lin: Wow.

221 00:18:50.820 00:18:51.210 Hannah Wang: And…

222 00:18:51.210 00:18:57.319 Amber Lin: I mean, we can also go to a place that has… like, I can work in a place that just has Wi-Fi, like.

223 00:18:57.540 00:18:58.470 Amber Lin: And…

224 00:18:58.470 00:18:58.850 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

225 00:18:58.850 00:19:06.079 Amber Lin: in the charging port. So if there’s something in that store, we could just go co-work there for, like, 2-3 hours.

226 00:19:06.080 00:19:09.880 Hannah Wang: Yeah, that’s true. I don’t know if there’s Wi-Fi there, but we can…

227 00:19:11.090 00:19:14.289 Hannah Wang: Yeah, probably a cafe is easier.

228 00:19:16.400 00:19:20.119 Hannah Wang: Okay, there’s, like, so many coffee shops around us, so we can…

229 00:19:20.120 00:19:22.710 Amber Lin: Oh, you just pick one, and… Yeah, okay.

230 00:19:22.710 00:19:32.420 Hannah Wang: Go there, but… Yeah, sounds… Good. Okay, well…

231 00:19:33.510 00:19:38.609 Hannah Wang: Yeah, maybe if we don’t have the Veterans Day off, I’ll see you on the 18th, and if not.

232 00:19:38.610 00:19:39.040 Amber Lin: Okay.

233 00:19:39.040 00:19:40.290 Hannah Wang: See you next week.

234 00:19:40.290 00:19:42.890 Amber Lin: Yeah, let me put that down on my calendar.

235 00:19:42.890 00:19:45.000 Hannah Wang: Yeah, invite me, too, so I have it.

236 00:19:45.000 00:19:45.760 Amber Lin: Hmm…

237 00:20:03.970 00:20:04.960 Amber Lin: Okay.

238 00:20:07.740 00:20:16.499 Hannah Wang: How’s the, like, I remember last time you said you were having a hard time with Nico and cleaning. Is that better?

239 00:20:16.500 00:20:26.089 Amber Lin: Oh, it’s getting better. I think it’s… the constant nudging helps. It’s just because she doesn’t have that…

240 00:20:26.960 00:20:29.629 Amber Lin: need as much as I do.

241 00:20:30.000 00:20:31.180 Amber Lin: tolerate it.

242 00:20:31.180 00:20:31.560 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

243 00:20:31.560 00:20:49.139 Amber Lin: I guess in a relationship, it’s whoever is more in pain. Bothered by it. You have to initiate the change, but I mean, I’m… I’m in a relationship with her because she’s willing to make those changes, so it’s… it’s okay, because she is willing to change what I don’t want.

244 00:20:49.140 00:20:50.260 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Right.

245 00:20:50.260 00:20:59.950 Amber Lin: And that’s… that’s essentially all that matters, because, like, of course I’m gonna not like something about someone that’s not me. I even don’t like something about myself, so it’s like, I can’t control.

246 00:20:59.950 00:21:02.130 Hannah Wang: I know, I know.

247 00:21:02.580 00:21:09.480 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I get you about the having a higher pain, like, it bothers me more.

248 00:21:09.640 00:21:10.670 Amber Lin: then, like…

249 00:21:10.670 00:21:12.700 Hannah Wang: Other… other people.

250 00:21:12.960 00:21:13.930 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

251 00:21:14.050 00:21:16.640 Hannah Wang: Like, being clean and stuff.

252 00:21:16.850 00:21:17.240 Amber Lin: Hmm.

253 00:21:17.240 00:21:18.410 Hannah Wang: Well, that’s good.

254 00:21:18.410 00:21:21.479 Amber Lin: Your house is very, very, very clean.

255 00:21:21.480 00:21:25.599 Hannah Wang: It’s cause… it’s cuz we try. I try to…

256 00:21:25.950 00:21:35.939 Hannah Wang: keep it clean. I think it’s clean, or it’s, like… my standard is too high. Like, it looks clean on the surface, but there’s, like, I know there’s…

257 00:21:35.940 00:21:39.009 Amber Lin: If you touch it, you’re like, no.

258 00:21:39.010 00:21:48.740 Hannah Wang: Yep. Yeah. And I think because we have a big space, like, Eric tends to cord a lot more things than I do.

259 00:21:48.740 00:21:49.140 Amber Lin: into, like.

260 00:21:49.140 00:21:50.260 Hannah Wang: Throw it away, so…

261 00:21:50.260 00:21:54.909 Amber Lin: Yeah, I have a feeling over owning less stuff.

262 00:21:54.910 00:21:55.270 Hannah Wang: Who?

263 00:21:55.270 00:22:01.589 Amber Lin: I have my closet this year, I will get rid of this, and then this.

264 00:22:02.160 00:22:05.970 Amber Lin: And… Yeah…

265 00:22:07.150 00:22:17.439 Hannah Wang: Yeah, so, I mean, it might look clean, but there’s just so much stuff, and like that, I’m always like, can we get rid of things? And…

266 00:22:18.330 00:22:25.989 Hannah Wang: We haven’t, so I think when we move to our new place, I’m gonna be like, let’s throw a lot of stuff away.

267 00:22:25.990 00:22:27.729 Amber Lin: When are you moving?

268 00:22:28.110 00:22:32.439 Hannah Wang: Dude, probably next year, next May.

269 00:22:32.440 00:22:33.719 Amber Lin: Oh, wow.

270 00:22:33.720 00:22:38.880 Hannah Wang: we started… Demo… demolishing stuff,

271 00:22:39.300 00:22:45.359 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I can show you a photo, I’ll send it over, but yeah, our current house is a…

272 00:22:45.640 00:22:51.219 Hannah Wang: disaster zone right now, because they’re just demoing everything.

273 00:22:51.220 00:22:51.960 Amber Lin: Hmm.

274 00:22:53.760 00:22:58.000 Hannah Wang: Okay, I just sent it. It kind of looks…

275 00:22:58.150 00:23:03.190 Hannah Wang: Kinda crazy, because all the walls are… Basically.

276 00:23:03.460 00:23:08.190 Hannah Wang: knocked down, and there’s… Rubbish everywhere.

277 00:23:08.890 00:23:09.730 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

278 00:23:10.230 00:23:11.070 Hannah Wang: But…

279 00:23:12.760 00:23:16.740 Amber Lin: What’s the style you’re going for?

280 00:23:17.300 00:23:23.890 Hannah Wang: I think Eric and I like, more Scandinavian.

281 00:23:23.890 00:23:27.240 Amber Lin: Mmm, do you have, like, your reference photos?

282 00:23:27.430 00:23:31.090 Hannah Wang: Yes, I have a Pinterest board, let me screenshot it.

283 00:23:31.970 00:23:43.510 Hannah Wang: From… maybe… Let me see… couch info… Maybe something like this.

284 00:23:44.080 00:23:47.459 Hannah Wang: Do you know what style you like in terms of interior?

285 00:23:47.810 00:23:55.279 Amber Lin: I like… I like more natural colors, so I like a lot of wood, and I like.

286 00:23:55.280 00:23:55.720 Hannah Wang: tests.

287 00:23:55.720 00:23:57.960 Amber Lin: green.

288 00:23:58.250 00:23:59.899 Amber Lin: I can also…

289 00:24:00.690 00:24:16.279 Amber Lin: I also, like, just very simple. I like concrete sometimes, but it’s not the greatest… it’s not the greatest in, like, a homey place, but if I’m just in an apartment, I have low budget, I don’t mind just having nice, smooth concrete floors.

290 00:24:16.280 00:24:21.069 Hannah Wang: I feel like you’d like Japandi. Japandi is very, like.

291 00:24:21.490 00:24:22.170 Hannah Wang: animal.

292 00:24:22.440 00:24:24.530 Hannah Wang: And, like, clean.

293 00:24:24.530 00:24:28.399 Amber Lin: I mean, this, what you sent me, looks like what I’m…

294 00:24:28.610 00:24:31.149 Amber Lin: the… the place I’m in right now.

295 00:24:32.200 00:24:36.389 Amber Lin: Yeah. Because they’re new, and they made a very…

296 00:24:36.870 00:24:42.530 Amber Lin: like, Marianistic, looks like a… like a new Airbnb.

297 00:24:44.410 00:24:50.899 Hannah Wang: Honestly, yeah, that’s the vibe I like. New, clean, clean home.

298 00:24:51.410 00:24:53.499 Hannah Wang: Oh… Yeah, we’ll see.

299 00:24:53.500 00:24:53.950 Amber Lin: Yeah.

300 00:24:53.950 00:24:56.959 Hannah Wang: I mean, it’s like you have to buy a bunch of furniture… ugh, I… yeah.

301 00:24:57.440 00:25:01.850 Hannah Wang: like, so much money, and I’ll think about that later.

302 00:25:03.260 00:25:07.370 Hannah Wang: But yeah, I mean, honestly, that’s… like, if I could, I would, like…

303 00:25:08.710 00:25:14.949 Hannah Wang: Well, maybe I shouldn’t say this when we’re recording. Can you stop the recording? Yeah, I can stop the recording.