Meeting Title: [Prep] Insomnia Project Review Date: 2025-10-24 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Casie Aviles, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:01:13.270 ⇒ 00:01:14.260 Uttam Kumaran: Hey guys.
2 00:01:19.240 ⇒ 00:01:19.930 Casie Aviles: Yay.
3 00:01:21.610 ⇒ 00:01:22.550 Mustafa Raja: Ayy.
4 00:01:24.800 ⇒ 00:01:28.520 Mustafa Raja: Our Python nodes generated and aren’t working.
5 00:01:32.880 ⇒ 00:01:33.920 Uttam Kumaran: Wait, say that again?
6 00:01:34.430 ⇒ 00:01:39.830 Mustafa Raja: The Python nodes in it and aren’t working. They had an update last… last month.
7 00:01:40.200 ⇒ 00:01:44.660 Casie Aviles: Oh, yeah, there’s… the new update broke the Python…
8 00:01:44.660 ⇒ 00:01:48.000 Mustafa Raja: It says that you cannot import, import.
9 00:01:48.410 ⇒ 00:01:50.910 Mustafa Raja: What’s it called?
10 00:01:51.290 ⇒ 00:01:52.880 Mustafa Raja: libraries.
11 00:01:53.370 ⇒ 00:02:03.530 Mustafa Raja: As it is some security issue, I guess, we need to… we need to allow something from, our Enidant configuration.
12 00:02:04.290 ⇒ 00:02:10.869 Mustafa Raja: for it to, work. But anyways, we’ll have to,
13 00:02:11.030 ⇒ 00:02:16.690 Mustafa Raja: Update each of the, code nodes that I’m using Python.
14 00:02:16.820 ⇒ 00:02:18.659 Mustafa Raja: They’re outdated, all of them.
15 00:02:21.360 ⇒ 00:02:24.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so how many are there? Which ones are there?
16 00:02:25.400 ⇒ 00:02:28.069 Mustafa Raja: So… so Brain Forge.
17 00:02:28.070 ⇒ 00:02:31.589 Uttam Kumaran: Like, what is it… is it affecting, like, any client stuff right now?
18 00:02:33.500 ⇒ 00:02:43.829 Mustafa Raja: it was affecting one, but that was last week, and I fixed that. I didn’t know that, at that point, that it was, because of an update, I thought.
19 00:02:44.020 ⇒ 00:02:57.229 Mustafa Raja: It might have bugged out for some reason, but I’m looking into it, and I’m seeing that a lot of our, all of our client hubs that have Slack integration aren’t going to work.
20 00:02:57.540 ⇒ 00:03:00.139 Mustafa Raja: all of them has this Python node.
21 00:03:01.160 ⇒ 00:03:03.860 Uttam Kumaran: But is it affecting any cli- like, any of the NA?
22 00:03:04.360 ⇒ 00:03:06.709 Uttam Kumaran: We’re running for clients. Okay, okay.
23 00:03:07.880 ⇒ 00:03:13.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I mean, if you can just… yeah, if it’s a lot of work, then maybe you can just make a little plan, and then we can…
24 00:03:13.170 ⇒ 00:03:13.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
25 00:03:13.530 ⇒ 00:03:14.690 Uttam Kumaran: I’ll do next week, right?
26 00:03:15.100 ⇒ 00:03:15.950 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
27 00:03:16.700 ⇒ 00:03:20.589 Mustafa Raja: The major issue is that it doesn’t let us import, that’s all.
28 00:03:24.480 ⇒ 00:03:25.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
29 00:03:47.310 ⇒ 00:03:49.509 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to create a ticket in,
30 00:03:49.690 ⇒ 00:03:52.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And ready for development, and then, yeah.
31 00:06:52.450 ⇒ 00:06:57.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I feel like maybe… Let’s see…
32 00:06:58.310 ⇒ 00:07:01.190 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe, I don’t think Robert’s online.
33 00:07:01.960 ⇒ 00:07:07.230 Uttam Kumaran: So okay, I might take the next meeting and then finalize the deck for…
34 00:07:07.900 ⇒ 00:07:13.489 Uttam Kumaran: Insomnia. I think, Casey, the architecture is really great, so I think that’ll be really, really useful.
35 00:07:13.840 ⇒ 00:07:15.420 Uttam Kumaran: Anything else?
36 00:07:15.420 ⇒ 00:07:15.800 Casie Aviles: Congrats.
37 00:07:15.800 ⇒ 00:07:18.739 Uttam Kumaran: Guys, we wanna… wanna discuss about any other team?
38 00:07:18.960 ⇒ 00:07:20.390 Uttam Kumaran: While I’m… while we’re here.
39 00:07:22.770 ⇒ 00:07:26.320 Mustafa Raja: So, I was looking into observability for Maestra.
40 00:07:26.540 ⇒ 00:07:43.090 Mustafa Raja: Yes. so we are using Next.js, as the framework, right? And it has some issues integrating with Next.js for now. They say they are rolling out a version, on November 4th.
41 00:07:43.910 ⇒ 00:07:48.320 Mustafa Raja: So I think that that is what we should be looking for.
42 00:07:48.830 ⇒ 00:07:53.870 Mustafa Raja: The issue is that the current implementation is specifically for Node.js.
43 00:07:54.080 ⇒ 00:08:01.180 Mustafa Raja: And, we need to have some sort of instrumentations, around that.
44 00:08:02.050 ⇒ 00:08:17.879 Mustafa Raja: I tried the versions that, Mastra has, specifically for NXGS. They still threw a lot of errors, and, Langface doesn’t, give us a native solution for that.
45 00:08:19.450 ⇒ 00:08:26.019 Mustafa Raja: But they are releasing a version on November 4th, so I think we should be looking forward to that.
46 00:08:28.690 ⇒ 00:08:33.400 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, does Monstra have, like, Slack or something?
47 00:08:33.860 ⇒ 00:08:36.370 Mustafa Raja: I don’t know.
48 00:08:38.289 ⇒ 00:08:41.609 Mustafa Raja: I can, look, look, look for it. Let me see.
49 00:08:44.249 ⇒ 00:08:45.849 Casie Aviles: Like a Slack channel.
50 00:08:45.909 ⇒ 00:08:46.899 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
51 00:08:47.750 ⇒ 00:08:48.840 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, or something.
52 00:08:55.050 ⇒ 00:08:56.239 Casie Aviles: Yeah, let’s see…
53 00:09:03.420 ⇒ 00:09:05.580 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think so.
54 00:09:06.280 ⇒ 00:09:08.679 Casie Aviles: They think… I think they have a Discord.
55 00:09:08.970 ⇒ 00:09:09.770 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
56 00:09:10.310 ⇒ 00:09:11.350 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really? Okay.
57 00:09:13.950 ⇒ 00:09:16.280 Casie Aviles: Yep, Discord, they have Discord.
58 00:09:17.110 ⇒ 00:09:19.450 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I want to join that, I can do some reading.
59 00:09:19.700 ⇒ 00:09:21.659 Mustafa Raja: Oh yeah, I’ll also join that.
60 00:09:23.330 ⇒ 00:09:30.219 Mustafa Raja: this code, a lot of… a lot of these companies or tools, they use this code, which is helpful.
61 00:09:31.410 ⇒ 00:09:32.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
62 00:09:40.550 ⇒ 00:09:45.990 Mustafa Raja: I guess I can then also ask the community what’s going on, right?
63 00:09:47.660 ⇒ 00:09:48.650 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly.
64 00:10:10.850 ⇒ 00:10:16.640 Mustafa Raja: So Sam says that we need to generalize the, system prompts for client hubs.
65 00:10:16.870 ⇒ 00:10:21.880 Mustafa Raja: So should I skip, moving them to, LangFuse for now?
66 00:10:23.530 ⇒ 00:10:30.699 Uttam Kumaran: Well, like, generalized meeting, there should just be one per client hub, right? Like, one for all client hubs, and then you insert context.
67 00:10:31.120 ⇒ 00:10:32.339 Mustafa Raja: Oh, okay, okay.
68 00:10:33.430 ⇒ 00:10:35.670 Uttam Kumaran: Or what was his feedback? I don’t know what his feedback was.
69 00:10:36.690 ⇒ 00:10:41.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I just said that we need to make them more generic.
70 00:10:43.230 ⇒ 00:10:47.939 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so, like, there should be just one. Every client… there should be one generic
71 00:10:48.310 ⇒ 00:10:51.549 Uttam Kumaran: Client prompt. There should be one prompt for every client.
72 00:10:51.920 ⇒ 00:10:52.460 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
73 00:10:52.460 ⇒ 00:10:56.249 Uttam Kumaran: But, like, the client context has to come from all the information about them, right?
74 00:10:56.650 ⇒ 00:10:57.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
75 00:10:58.930 ⇒ 00:11:04.919 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I guess then I can, I can do a generalized, version of it, and then we can…
76 00:11:04.920 ⇒ 00:11:07.659 Uttam Kumaran: I guess my… my pitch would be build…
77 00:11:07.820 ⇒ 00:11:10.870 Uttam Kumaran: The system working for one client.
78 00:11:12.670 ⇒ 00:11:16.860 Uttam Kumaran: And then you have the multiple components, and then do a review with every… with AI team.
79 00:11:17.480 ⇒ 00:11:18.140 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
80 00:11:19.190 ⇒ 00:11:19.730 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
81 00:12:13.570 ⇒ 00:12:19.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’s kind of all I had. I wanted to work on some stuff earlier, I…
82 00:12:20.780 ⇒ 00:12:29.450 Uttam Kumaran: Did not, but I have the next hour or so to try to do some stuff, so… Okay.
83 00:12:32.940 ⇒ 00:12:34.919 Uttam Kumaran: What about you guys? How’s the day been?
84 00:12:37.040 ⇒ 00:12:39.770 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s incident for me.
85 00:12:41.970 ⇒ 00:12:43.380 Uttam Kumaran: That’s good sometimes.
86 00:12:43.380 ⇒ 00:12:44.060 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
87 00:12:48.990 ⇒ 00:12:50.100 Uttam Kumaran: How about you, Casey?
88 00:12:52.000 ⇒ 00:12:56.899 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I mean… For Fridays, usually it’s a lot more chill.
89 00:12:57.850 ⇒ 00:13:01.819 Uttam Kumaran: How do you guys think this week and last week went? You feel it was, like, more organized?
90 00:13:03.490 ⇒ 00:13:06.510 Mustafa Raja: Oh, the stand-ups, really helped.
91 00:13:07.080 ⇒ 00:13:10.410 Mustafa Raja: It was nice having, having them all in one.
92 00:13:11.290 ⇒ 00:13:11.910 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
93 00:13:12.070 ⇒ 00:13:16.569 Casie Aviles: Yeah, I do think it’s better to have them in short bursts like that.
94 00:13:16.710 ⇒ 00:13:17.440 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
95 00:13:17.990 ⇒ 00:13:21.140 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. And yeah, I do feel like we’re a lot more organized.
96 00:13:22.350 ⇒ 00:13:22.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
97 00:13:28.200 ⇒ 00:13:30.210 Uttam Kumaran: Anything we think we should change?
98 00:13:33.080 ⇒ 00:13:37.549 Casie Aviles: No, I, I, I, just something that I’ve been thinking about, let’s just…
99 00:13:37.760 ⇒ 00:13:41.139 Casie Aviles: sometimes, like, I feel like we should… I should have, like, a…
100 00:13:41.940 ⇒ 00:13:48.689 Casie Aviles: I know we’re gonna be having architecture reviews in the next couple… in the next week,
101 00:13:49.200 ⇒ 00:13:56.340 Casie Aviles: But just something that I was thinking about is, I think that’s… that could be something that, you know, like a document that we prepared.
102 00:13:57.150 ⇒ 00:14:01.219 Casie Aviles: Before actually, you know, working on the stuff.
103 00:14:01.850 ⇒ 00:14:10.829 Casie Aviles: Yes. Because now that I got the chance to zoom out on the workflow, or, like, the entire thing for insomnia.
104 00:14:11.340 ⇒ 00:14:17.099 Casie Aviles: There’s a lot of, like… Quick fixes there, there’s a lot of, you know, it’s not like…
105 00:14:18.090 ⇒ 00:14:24.579 Casie Aviles: the cleanest, so I think it would have benefited from, like, having an architecture document first, or something like that.
106 00:14:24.980 ⇒ 00:14:25.860 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…
107 00:14:28.610 ⇒ 00:14:33.019 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, this is why we have, sort of, the TDD, like, the technical design document.
108 00:14:33.580 ⇒ 00:14:33.960 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
109 00:14:33.960 ⇒ 00:14:39.169 Uttam Kumaran: Right, so one thing that I would hope that comes out of
110 00:14:39.540 ⇒ 00:14:45.990 Uttam Kumaran: this meeting is that we can produce a new TDD for… this whole system
111 00:14:46.960 ⇒ 00:14:52.530 Uttam Kumaran: Right, so if you go on Notice and you search for TED, this is, like, our typical technical design. I actually think it’s…
112 00:14:53.370 ⇒ 00:15:04.529 Uttam Kumaran: it’s a little bit… like, it’s not perfect, but… yes. But, like, this is the thing about consulting, is, like, we’re always gonna walk in and have to fight fires, like, we solved a problem, now we need to make it even better.
113 00:15:05.160 ⇒ 00:15:15.480 Uttam Kumaran: Right? Yeah. So I don’t think we, like, had much time to even do something like this. It took us, like, we had to get a bunch of buy-in from them in order to even work on stuff like this, you know, so…
114 00:15:17.260 ⇒ 00:15:17.950 Casie Aviles: Yeah.
115 00:15:18.580 ⇒ 00:15:19.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
116 00:15:29.580 ⇒ 00:15:30.320 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
117 00:15:30.660 ⇒ 00:15:35.699 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, alright, I’m gonna… I’ve been sitting here on this chair since…
118 00:15:36.250 ⇒ 00:15:39.890 Uttam Kumaran: 9 AM, I need to go eat something.
119 00:15:40.430 ⇒ 00:15:49.159 Uttam Kumaran: But let me know. Let me know what you guys keep sending me stuff about Mastra and the AI team as you guys discover it, like, I’m gonna try to do some work later today.
120 00:15:49.280 ⇒ 00:15:51.669 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah, send me the Discord link in the AI Team channel.
121 00:15:51.670 ⇒ 00:15:54.219 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let me move into that.
122 00:15:55.520 ⇒ 00:15:56.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
123 00:15:58.230 ⇒ 00:15:59.369 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, thanks.
124 00:15:59.690 ⇒ 00:16:01.529 Uttam Kumaran: I see it in Zoom chat, though.
125 00:16:01.690 ⇒ 00:16:03.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Alright, thank you guys.
126 00:16:04.180 ⇒ 00:16:05.040 Mustafa Raja: Thank you.
127 00:16:05.400 ⇒ 00:16:06.910 Casie Aviles: Thank you. Bye.