Meeting Title: US x BF | Standup Date: 2025-10-10 Meeting participants: Emily Giant, Demilade Agboola, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:37.680 ⇒ 00:00:39.240 Emily Giant: Hello again.
2 00:00:40.730 ⇒ 00:00:42.200 Demilade Agboola: Hi, Emily, how are you?
3 00:00:43.160 ⇒ 00:00:51.600 Emily Giant: Fine. There’s a giant hole in my house right now, and today’s a little touch-and-go. I feel like I’m gonna be working a lot Sunday to make up for, like.
4 00:00:52.160 ⇒ 00:00:54.189 Emily Giant: the focus I cannot have.
5 00:00:54.530 ⇒ 00:00:56.060 Emily Giant: Today.
6 00:00:57.390 ⇒ 00:01:00.300 Demilade Agboola: Fair enough. How long is the construction for? Today, tomorrow?
7 00:01:00.300 ⇒ 00:01:09.230 Emily Giant: Just today and tomorrow, yeah, and then they’re doing different stuff on Monday, but, like, there’s jackhammers today, and I feel like the jackhammer is inside my brain.
8 00:01:09.340 ⇒ 00:01:16.509 Emily Giant: It’s just so hard to focus when it’s like… It’s not ideal.
9 00:01:17.060 ⇒ 00:01:22.260 Emily Giant: But I’ll take a picture and send it of this hole in the front of my house. It is, like.
10 00:01:23.410 ⇒ 00:01:30.339 Emily Giant: There were, shrubs and stuff that have been growing for probably 50 years that they just were like…
11 00:01:30.570 ⇒ 00:01:33.669 Emily Giant: And it’s… It’s a lot.
12 00:01:35.140 ⇒ 00:01:44.490 Emily Giant: So, like, not great focus, but I know Sunday, when they’re not here, I’ll just, like, hunker down and finish out the sprint, anything I’m not able to finish today.
13 00:01:45.810 ⇒ 00:01:47.150 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good.
14 00:01:47.150 ⇒ 00:01:49.219 Emily Giant: That’s my retro note. Don’t work it.
15 00:01:49.880 ⇒ 00:01:51.370 Emily Giant: construction.
16 00:01:51.590 ⇒ 00:01:52.890 Uttam Kumaran: Retro mode.
17 00:01:52.890 ⇒ 00:01:55.549 Emily Giant: Yeah. Yeah, my week has been…
18 00:01:55.550 ⇒ 00:01:57.980 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I’m, like, getting more involved.
19 00:01:58.230 ⇒ 00:02:01.819 Uttam Kumaran: back on, like, delivery side for stuff, which I’m happy about, because…
20 00:02:01.820 ⇒ 00:02:03.949 Emily Giant: You know, when we were a small company, I was…
21 00:02:03.950 ⇒ 00:02:07.670 Uttam Kumaran: PMing and delivery and everything, and now I’m…
22 00:02:08.030 ⇒ 00:02:11.609 Uttam Kumaran: I was a PM for a while, so I…
23 00:02:11.820 ⇒ 00:02:21.619 Uttam Kumaran: I’m good at that, so it’s been nice to do a couple days of that, so yeah. It’s been a good week. That makes sense. Like, I can see that in you, that, like, you’re very good at knowing when things are not, like.
24 00:02:22.080 ⇒ 00:02:24.199 Emily Giant: Clearly outlined, and.
25 00:02:24.200 ⇒ 00:02:28.509 Uttam Kumaran: I just like… I think I just say the quiet thing out loud.
26 00:02:28.510 ⇒ 00:02:29.340 Emily Giant: Yeah, totally.
27 00:02:29.340 ⇒ 00:02:33.009 Uttam Kumaran: Like, even in my personal life, like, with my friends, I’m kind of like that, where I’m like.
28 00:02:33.350 ⇒ 00:02:43.640 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that doesn’t make any sense. Everybody will be nodding at the table, and I’m like, yeah, I don’t know, that doesn’t make any sense to me. And everyone’s like, yeah, that didn’t make any sense. I’m like, why were we all agreeing?
29 00:02:43.640 ⇒ 00:02:46.759 Emily Giant: I totally am the same way, where I’m like.
30 00:02:47.240 ⇒ 00:02:52.339 Emily Giant: what? Like, no, what? People don’t like it, necessarily.
31 00:02:52.340 ⇒ 00:02:55.420 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, people don’t like it. They’re like, why’d you interrupt me? I’m like, well, I didn’t get.
32 00:02:55.420 ⇒ 00:02:55.850 Emily Giant: I’m.
33 00:02:55.850 ⇒ 00:03:08.520 Uttam Kumaran: we move forward, if I didn’t get that part, then we’re off the rails, and they’re like, I was gonna get to there. I’m like, didn’t seem like there was really a way. The story was going on.
34 00:03:08.780 ⇒ 00:03:13.450 Emily Giant: That’s my whole, like, is like, if something doesn’t make sense, it’s because it doesn’t make sense.
35 00:03:13.580 ⇒ 00:03:24.730 Emily Giant: So… just say it. Like, someone else is probably confused and scared, and like, it makes so little sense that they don’t even want to bring up how little sense it makes, but… yeah. Alright.
36 00:03:28.470 ⇒ 00:03:29.360 Demilade Agboola: Interesting.
37 00:03:30.460 ⇒ 00:03:33.929 Demilade Agboola: I was just looking around, Zoom and what you could do.
38 00:03:34.260 ⇒ 00:03:35.090 Emily Giant: It’s wild.
39 00:03:35.380 ⇒ 00:03:38.319 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, there are a lot of things.
40 00:03:38.840 ⇒ 00:03:41.650 Demilade Agboola: I was thinking we could just do a quick, like, retro on.
41 00:03:41.650 ⇒ 00:03:42.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
42 00:03:43.140 ⇒ 00:03:50.140 Demilade Agboola: What went well, what we didn’t. This is the template, so that explains why there are, like, already.
43 00:03:50.370 ⇒ 00:03:52.359 Emily Giant: Okay, yeah, that makes sense.
44 00:03:58.010 ⇒ 00:03:59.770 Emily Giant: Alright, so do we just want to take, like.
45 00:03:59.920 ⇒ 00:04:02.310 Emily Giant: We can write over those, too, since it’s just the three.
46 00:04:02.310 ⇒ 00:04:05.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, maybe we just do, like, 10 minutes?
47 00:04:05.330 ⇒ 00:04:06.250 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, or…
48 00:04:06.470 ⇒ 00:04:07.350 Emily Giant: Yeah.
49 00:04:07.350 ⇒ 00:04:09.720 Uttam Kumaran: Again, like, we can do 5. Let’s do 5 minutes, yeah.
50 00:04:10.700 ⇒ 00:04:12.590 Demilade Agboola: 5… 5 will be fine.
51 00:04:12.830 ⇒ 00:04:13.630 Emily Giant: Right.
52 00:07:38.040 ⇒ 00:07:38.950 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
53 00:08:06.710 ⇒ 00:08:09.030 Demilade Agboola: Are we all done? Or…
54 00:08:09.720 ⇒ 00:08:10.470 Uttam Kumaran: I’m good.
55 00:08:11.210 ⇒ 00:08:12.250 Emily Giant: Almost.
56 00:08:43.390 ⇒ 00:08:47.040 Emily Giant: We have a lot of the same ones, sorry, I was just looking at everyone’s.
57 00:09:03.430 ⇒ 00:09:04.870 Demilade Agboola: Okay, I think…
58 00:09:05.240 ⇒ 00:09:06.320 Emily Giant: Yeah, I’m good.
59 00:09:08.000 ⇒ 00:09:09.099 Demilade Agboola: No, -oh.
60 00:09:10.550 ⇒ 00:09:13.589 Demilade Agboola: So, these are similar, in terms of, like.
61 00:09:14.670 ⇒ 00:09:19.469 Demilade Agboola: Prs, deployments, reviewing, staging, testing.
62 00:09:19.960 ⇒ 00:09:21.420 Demilade Agboola: for challenges.
63 00:09:21.680 ⇒ 00:09:27.190 Demilade Agboola: Clarity is sort of something here.
64 00:09:30.540 ⇒ 00:09:32.170 Emily Giant: Oh, wow, yeah, there are a lot of…
65 00:09:32.580 ⇒ 00:09:36.349 Emily Giant: similars here. I’m trying to group them to make it easier for you.
66 00:09:36.990 ⇒ 00:09:37.670 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
67 00:09:41.620 ⇒ 00:09:42.820 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
68 00:09:45.300 ⇒ 00:09:46.360 Demilade Agboola: Perfect.
69 00:09:46.500 ⇒ 00:09:49.750 Demilade Agboola: I could put this together for, like, altitude.
70 00:09:50.380 ⇒ 00:09:57.530 Demilade Agboola: Okay, great. I think, all in all, it does appear…
71 00:09:58.570 ⇒ 00:10:03.950 Demilade Agboola: that there has been some output. Okay, there’s North Beam puts together as well.
72 00:10:04.650 ⇒ 00:10:07.070 Demilade Agboola: But there has been the molecule that we are…
73 00:10:07.410 ⇒ 00:10:09.779 Demilade Agboola: happy, slash on board with.
74 00:10:10.270 ⇒ 00:10:13.760 Demilade Agboola: In terms of challenges, it does appear that, you know.
75 00:10:14.750 ⇒ 00:10:20.800 Demilade Agboola: Feedback, clarity seems to be for two different things.
76 00:10:21.360 ⇒ 00:10:28.190 Demilade Agboola: Deployment and testing seem to be another issue.
77 00:10:28.610 ⇒ 00:10:32.879 Demilade Agboola: And so, pesky alerts can also kind of go into that as well.
78 00:10:33.620 ⇒ 00:10:36.850 Demilade Agboola: And, yeah, integrating Shopify.
79 00:10:37.300 ⇒ 00:10:47.519 Demilade Agboola: So I do feel like this retro, especially when Amber comes back, or, like, Utem and I can always talk about this, and just kind of use that as we go into next week.
80 00:10:47.690 ⇒ 00:10:52.690 Demilade Agboola: To ensure that some of these things, we… ensure that we knock them out of the park next week.
81 00:10:53.130 ⇒ 00:11:03.419 Emily Giant: I will say that, like, with the lack of clarity stuff, and the deployment schedule, it’s so much better than it used to be. I think I still…
82 00:11:03.710 ⇒ 00:11:14.259 Emily Giant: like… and it’s me coming back from vacation, too, right? I’ve been back for 2 weeks, and it was, like, reintegrating back into the process, but, like, I do feel like our communication has been a lot better since getting back.
83 00:11:14.750 ⇒ 00:11:26.610 Emily Giant: And, like, the additional… I should have added additional grooming with Amber for the tickets. That has been so helpful, for me knowing what I’m looking for when someone submits a PR.
84 00:11:26.850 ⇒ 00:11:30.580 Emily Giant: So I need to write that down, because that has been, like.
85 00:11:30.820 ⇒ 00:11:31.210 Uttam Kumaran: Great.
86 00:11:31.210 ⇒ 00:11:39.340 Emily Giant: important, and we’ve been spending hours doing it, which is, like, I like when we do it together, but I think just from, like, an internal perspective.
87 00:11:39.500 ⇒ 00:11:48.039 Emily Giant: It does help for her and I to have breakout sessions to, like, further flesh out the tickets after the initial grooming as a team.
88 00:11:48.520 ⇒ 00:11:49.570 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
89 00:11:52.390 ⇒ 00:11:54.419 Demilade Agboola: That ad is definitely great to have.
90 00:11:57.150 ⇒ 00:11:59.410 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then I think there’s a lot of work still to do on, like.
91 00:12:00.210 ⇒ 00:12:02.450 Uttam Kumaran: The speed of getting things out, and…
92 00:12:02.610 ⇒ 00:12:06.880 Uttam Kumaran: errors and things like that. Awash will help a lot on there, like, there’s a lot of background on that, so…
93 00:12:07.140 ⇒ 00:12:10.479 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m excited.
94 00:12:11.800 ⇒ 00:12:17.239 Emily Giant: Yeah. As far as, the PR, I would love for us to, like…
95 00:12:17.920 ⇒ 00:12:28.339 Emily Giant: I know that Demilade and I were meant to use the working sessions to also review deployments, which we did once last week. We worked through, like, the issues in fact transactions.
96 00:12:28.340 ⇒ 00:12:29.760 Uttam Kumaran: But I think that the…
97 00:12:29.860 ⇒ 00:12:38.450 Emily Giant: the issues with that were just because we probably should have had a little more QA together before the deployment, but I think, like.
98 00:12:39.240 ⇒ 00:12:42.600 Emily Giant: having… Just a touch base.
99 00:12:42.710 ⇒ 00:12:56.769 Emily Giant: or maybe even during stand-up, to review PRs that are still there, because I feel like I let Oasis sit there for too long, and I felt bad. I just was like, I need to know what I’m looking for, and I… Cool.
100 00:12:56.770 ⇒ 00:13:04.099 Emily Giant: it was escaping my brain every time we’d meet. I was like, oh, shoot, the deployment, but I would love to, like, if someone deploys, or does a PR,
101 00:13:04.100 ⇒ 00:13:07.860 Emily Giant: we should review it together at stand-up that day, and then…
102 00:13:07.930 ⇒ 00:13:10.289 Emily Giant: Planned the time to deploy it.
103 00:13:10.540 ⇒ 00:13:10.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
104 00:13:10.890 ⇒ 00:13:22.570 Emily Giant: So we’re all on the same page, because I think that’s the only real miss for me this past Sprint. I think overall, it was really smooth, and Cursor was awesome. I wasn’t, like, crying, trying to make it stop.
105 00:13:23.370 ⇒ 00:13:30.169 Emily Giant: But that was the only, like, standout thing for me, is that sometimes I just stared at a PR and was like, I don’t…
106 00:13:30.270 ⇒ 00:13:31.549 Emily Giant: Fuck to do with this.
107 00:13:31.940 ⇒ 00:13:37.159 Emily Giant: Yeah, ideally, we can just spend the back half of stand-up. Yeah. And then, it’s pretty common to just do…
108 00:13:37.240 ⇒ 00:13:45.570 Uttam Kumaran: like, you just book a… just grab time to just do a PR review. But we should just… what we could do is just use the back half of stand-ups for existing PR reviews.
109 00:13:45.630 ⇒ 00:13:46.999 Emily Giant: I would love that.
110 00:13:48.060 ⇒ 00:13:48.640 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
111 00:13:48.840 ⇒ 00:13:49.730 Emily Giant: been great.
112 00:13:50.150 ⇒ 00:13:54.610 Demilade Agboola: Also, potentially, worst case scenario is we could have a PR review.
113 00:13:54.710 ⇒ 00:14:00.879 Demilade Agboola: 30-minute session every week, where if there’s any, like, pending PRs, we could just quickly sync on it.
114 00:14:01.840 ⇒ 00:14:03.740 Emily Giant: I think that’s a great idea, too.
115 00:14:05.180 ⇒ 00:14:07.469 Demilade Agboola: I don’t want at the way that works.
116 00:14:07.990 ⇒ 00:14:08.560 Emily Giant: Yeah.
117 00:14:09.120 ⇒ 00:14:09.660 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
118 00:14:09.660 ⇒ 00:14:17.680 Emily Giant: I just want to get people’s work out the door, because I know how hard the work is, and when I let it sit there for a week, I’m like, oh my gosh, is this totally derailing?
119 00:14:18.120 ⇒ 00:14:19.970 Emily Giant: the work that they did? Probably.
120 00:14:21.970 ⇒ 00:14:22.550 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
121 00:14:23.480 ⇒ 00:14:24.100 Demilade Agboola: Okay.
122 00:14:24.670 ⇒ 00:14:28.569 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good. Thanks, everyone.
123 00:14:30.640 ⇒ 00:14:43.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think Amber… I’ll be on on Monday and Tuesday, I think Amber gets back on Wednesday, so I’ll help, and then I think either this weekend or Monday, I’ll probably move some stuff and help Demilade plan out the next cycle coming up, so…
124 00:14:43.400 ⇒ 00:14:44.000 Emily Giant: Sweet.
125 00:14:44.410 ⇒ 00:14:48.840 Emily Giant: All right, sounds good. Thanks so much, everyone. I feel like we’re, like, we’re rolling.
126 00:14:49.040 ⇒ 00:14:49.770 Uttam Kumaran: We’re rolling.
127 00:14:49.770 ⇒ 00:14:50.999 Emily Giant: We’re rolling. We’re doing good.
128 00:14:51.000 ⇒ 00:14:55.980 Uttam Kumaran: I feel good, yeah. And it was great to have a lot of the meetings, and I… seeing that feedback was really positive.
129 00:14:57.880 ⇒ 00:15:10.339 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, Perry did… Perry definitely said, like, the numbers we have are, like, better than what we currently have, so it’s just kind of, like, figuring out those edge cases that they don’t seem to, like, align.
130 00:15:10.470 ⇒ 00:15:13.899 Demilade Agboola: Oh, I’m sorry, from what I will look at today,
131 00:15:14.740 ⇒ 00:15:20.020 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, and then maybe, like, try the idea, at least my hope, is that we can push them early next week.
132 00:15:20.470 ⇒ 00:15:22.749 Demilade Agboola: So at least we have some progress.
133 00:15:22.860 ⇒ 00:15:34.100 Demilade Agboola: I won’t let perfection be a standard way of progress, so we’ll get some progress, get some numbers out, and Emily can start building out the Explores based off that, and we can update things as we build.
134 00:15:34.800 ⇒ 00:15:35.430 Uttam Kumaran: Cool.
135 00:15:35.620 ⇒ 00:15:36.120 Emily Giant: Sweet.
136 00:15:36.930 ⇒ 00:15:38.629 Demilade Agboola: All right, thanks everyone.
137 00:15:38.630 ⇒ 00:15:39.300 Emily Giant: Thank you.
138 00:15:39.300 ⇒ 00:15:40.350 Uttam Kumaran: Have a great weekend.
139 00:15:40.350 ⇒ 00:15:41.350 Emily Giant: You too. Bye.
140 00:15:41.350 ⇒ 00:15:42.070 Uttam Kumaran: Right.