Meeting Title: US x BF | Sprint Retro Date: 2025-09-29 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Demilade Agboola, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:06.290 ⇒ 00:00:07.320 Amber Lin: Hello.
2 00:00:09.290 ⇒ 00:00:16.390 Amber Lin: Just checking here on tickets before we get started, I know these…
3 00:00:16.630 ⇒ 00:00:22.790 Amber Lin: were ad hocs, and this was also from last week. Were these? Were these done?
4 00:00:23.960 ⇒ 00:00:26.509 Amber Lin: Especially the two ad hocs right here.
5 00:00:26.960 ⇒ 00:00:36.389 Demilade Agboola: So the 368, I probably knew Utam’s in better position, because they already gave in some of the briefs to Utam.
6 00:00:37.540 ⇒ 00:00:45.590 Demilade Agboola: Sam’s gonna handle that instead. But 362… basically is…
7 00:00:46.250 ⇒ 00:00:51.730 Demilade Agboola: I’ll say it’s sort of done, because I responded to her, and she hasn’t responded.
8 00:00:52.190 ⇒ 00:00:55.859 Demilade Agboola: Because I was trying to get her the appropriate numbers.
9 00:00:56.270 ⇒ 00:00:59.419 Demilade Agboola: But she hasn’t responded as well, so I don’t know.
10 00:01:00.070 ⇒ 00:01:03.130 Amber Lin: Okay, and then for suborders?
11 00:01:03.810 ⇒ 00:01:11.680 Demilade Agboola: So that, because of all the was going on last week, was pushed back. Gotcha. Okay. I’ll finish that today.
12 00:01:11.830 ⇒ 00:01:13.220 Amber Lin: Gotcha, okay.
13 00:01:22.510 ⇒ 00:01:28.030 Amber Lin: And then suborders… Okay, duh.
14 00:01:30.210 ⇒ 00:01:38.130 Amber Lin: Subscription Revenue Summary, is that blocked, or is that something you can… 2…
15 00:01:39.340 ⇒ 00:01:48.030 Demilade Agboola: So I’m not exactly sure what the subscription revenue summary is supposed to represent, but right now, we still block everything. Subscription is still blocked by…
16 00:01:49.180 ⇒ 00:01:49.790 Amber Lin: Okay.
17 00:01:53.940 ⇒ 00:01:54.500 Amber Lin: Alright.
18 00:01:55.170 ⇒ 00:01:59.720 Amber Lin: So, we have… And then I might pull something in…
19 00:02:05.390 ⇒ 00:02:08.740 Amber Lin: Anything here on Udemy’s plate you can help with?
20 00:02:09.949 ⇒ 00:02:12.529 Amber Lin: Let’s ridiculously, we have suborders.
21 00:02:13.380 ⇒ 00:02:17.550 Amber Lin: That’s it, because we can’t run the validation session yet.
22 00:02:20.190 ⇒ 00:02:21.230 Demilade Agboola: Did I…
23 00:02:21.230 ⇒ 00:02:22.400 Uttam Kumaran: I end up getting booked.
24 00:02:24.080 ⇒ 00:02:36.779 Amber Lin: No, I need to book with Perry first. None of our models are… or numbers are ready for the final review, right? Because Perry hasn’t responded to me, I’ve pinged her twice, and I’ve also pinged PK.
25 00:02:39.240 ⇒ 00:02:44.139 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, and also, I… part of the call, I wondered how the parry was…
26 00:02:44.550 ⇒ 00:02:47.780 Demilade Agboola: So we can have conversations about the…
27 00:02:48.120 ⇒ 00:02:52.140 Demilade Agboola: Revenue calculations and how they calculate these things.
28 00:02:52.460 ⇒ 00:03:00.370 Demilade Agboola: So at least we are on the same page when I’m taking the first stab at the revenue models, revenue summary models.
29 00:03:00.950 ⇒ 00:03:06.860 Demilade Agboola: But, yeah, that’s another, like, reason why…
30 00:03:07.110 ⇒ 00:03:10.620 Demilade Agboola: That’s why the 260 and 261 are blocked.
31 00:03:14.730 ⇒ 00:03:17.780 Amber Lin: Yeah. I’m…
32 00:03:18.030 ⇒ 00:03:34.239 Amber Lin: You know, I’m gonna ping Zach and Dean, and then I’ll grab Dean if Perry doesn’t respond. PK also… PK responded, he said he can book for later this week, but it… it doesn’t help unblock, but it helps get him involved.
33 00:03:34.390 ⇒ 00:03:38.460 Amber Lin: So, I will… I will respond to him in a bit.
34 00:03:38.840 ⇒ 00:03:45.119 Amber Lin: Udram, do you need to be there when we meet with PK, or is it just me and
35 00:03:45.620 ⇒ 00:03:46.000 Amber Lin: be enough.
36 00:03:46.000 ⇒ 00:03:46.899 Uttam Kumaran: I can be there.
37 00:03:46.900 ⇒ 00:03:48.959 Amber Lin: Okay, okay, I’ll see if you have time.
38 00:03:50.980 ⇒ 00:03:58.359 Amber Lin: So, realistically, I think, Demola, you can help with some of Utam’s tasks if Perry doesn’t help us review.
39 00:03:59.290 ⇒ 00:04:03.820 Amber Lin: But let’s see… I don’t know how much we can move forward without the review.
40 00:04:03.820 ⇒ 00:04:07.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I’m gonna hand some of these off to Awash this week.
41 00:04:07.170 ⇒ 00:04:07.880 Amber Lin: Yeah.
42 00:04:08.400 ⇒ 00:04:08.720 Uttam Kumaran: Which…
43 00:04:08.720 ⇒ 00:04:10.980 Amber Lin: Which ones will you be handing off first?
44 00:04:10.980 ⇒ 00:04:14.340 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna hand him the, the revenue work.
45 00:04:14.810 ⇒ 00:04:18.749 Uttam Kumaran: So, dbt test for fact transactions…
46 00:04:19.430 ⇒ 00:04:20.919 Amber Lin: Subscriptions?
47 00:04:20.920 ⇒ 00:04:24.689 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna still handle subscriptions today, should that should be out.
48 00:04:24.690 ⇒ 00:04:25.300 Amber Lin: Okay.
49 00:04:25.800 ⇒ 00:04:30.069 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, and then, like, there’s, like, this error I’m working on.
50 00:04:30.300 ⇒ 00:04:34.579 Uttam Kumaran: Like, first, some of the… something for Michael that I have to fix today.
51 00:04:34.580 ⇒ 00:04:38.700 Amber Lin: So is that the… These…
52 00:04:38.700 ⇒ 00:04:40.910 Demilade Agboola: I was going to ask a 3-2-5.
53 00:04:43.230 ⇒ 00:04:44.149 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, what is that one?
54 00:04:44.280 ⇒ 00:04:49.220 Amber Lin: This is from Wallow for a long time ago, I think we can cancel this.
55 00:04:49.980 ⇒ 00:04:52.690 Uttam Kumaran: Can you ask Emily? Emily created this…
56 00:04:53.240 ⇒ 00:04:55.609 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would ask her if we’re canceling.
57 00:04:55.800 ⇒ 00:04:57.799 Amber Lin: Okay, I’m gonna move this to her.
58 00:04:58.190 ⇒ 00:05:01.700 Amber Lin: Subscriptions and field indicated.
59 00:05:04.380 ⇒ 00:05:07.360 Amber Lin: We don’t have subscriptions, though.
60 00:05:08.490 ⇒ 00:05:09.230 Amber Lin: Okay.
61 00:05:19.050 ⇒ 00:05:21.240 Amber Lin: She will be back next week.
62 00:05:21.660 ⇒ 00:05:23.529 Amber Lin: So that will help us.
63 00:05:24.190 ⇒ 00:05:27.699 Amber Lin: Subscriptions that you’re focusing on.
64 00:05:28.730 ⇒ 00:05:29.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
65 00:05:29.170 ⇒ 00:05:34.789 Amber Lin: I need the North Beam thread, is there someone that can help you with that?
66 00:05:36.010 ⇒ 00:05:37.870 Uttam Kumaran: It’s just me.
67 00:05:38.160 ⇒ 00:05:38.970 Amber Lin: Okay.
68 00:05:39.360 ⇒ 00:05:41.350 Demilade Agboola: So, is there a way you could loop me in this?
69 00:05:42.240 ⇒ 00:05:47.589 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, I can… I mean, I feel like everybody here should be on this email, right, with…
70 00:05:48.000 ⇒ 00:05:48.860 Uttam Kumaran: North Beam.
71 00:05:48.860 ⇒ 00:06:00.409 Demilade Agboola: Because, even when Amber asked for, like, a review of stuff, like, it looked good, but, like, I don’t have all the full context, so I can’t really, like, give a proper feedback.
72 00:06:01.110 ⇒ 00:06:05.099 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so let me… here, let me just send you guys both this thread right now, and then… Okay.
73 00:06:05.380 ⇒ 00:06:07.810 Uttam Kumaran: That’s just, we can even talk about it in this meeting.
74 00:06:10.320 ⇒ 00:06:17.500 Uttam Kumaran: So I just emailed it to you. Basically, we’re trying to get order attribution data from Northbeam.
75 00:06:18.080 ⇒ 00:06:24.560 Uttam Kumaran: And what’s going on is… There’s no… apparently, there’s no way for us to get
76 00:06:25.180 ⇒ 00:06:28.549 Uttam Kumaran: the order attribution data directly from North Beam.
77 00:06:28.710 ⇒ 00:06:33.969 Uttam Kumaran: Because… Apparently, it’s, like, not using the Northbeams API or something.
78 00:06:34.170 ⇒ 00:06:42.029 Uttam Kumaran: So, my… my sort of question here is, is there a way for us to get this from the Shopify data?
79 00:06:42.360 ⇒ 00:06:50.550 Uttam Kumaran: like, in Shopify, Is there… in the Shopify data, is there a marketing attribution column somewhere?
80 00:06:50.700 ⇒ 00:06:58.550 Uttam Kumaran: So that would be my first suggestion. Second suggestion, if this can’t be done through the API, can it be done through a manual export?
81 00:07:01.400 ⇒ 00:07:03.010 Demilade Agboola: Okay. R.
82 00:07:03.330 ⇒ 00:07:06.390 Demilade Agboola: So, this sounds like a spike, basically.
83 00:07:07.610 ⇒ 00:07:20.070 Amber Lin: When we’re forwarding this to Zach and Kristen, are we asking them to try and resolve the API issue? Are we… or are we trying to get them to agree? Zach and Kristen are… Zach and Kristen are just…
84 00:07:20.490 ⇒ 00:07:23.129 Uttam Kumaran: Business users, so there’s nothing they can do.
85 00:07:23.130 ⇒ 00:07:23.670 Amber Lin: Okay.
86 00:07:23.670 ⇒ 00:07:24.590 Uttam Kumaran: Technically.
87 00:07:24.780 ⇒ 00:07:26.830 Uttam Kumaran: So we have to propose a solution.
88 00:07:27.080 ⇒ 00:07:28.170 Amber Lin: Gotcha, okay.
89 00:07:29.660 ⇒ 00:07:32.549 Uttam Kumaran: So, we have to answer the first one.
90 00:07:32.760 ⇒ 00:07:33.270 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
91 00:07:33.270 ⇒ 00:07:34.900 Uttam Kumaran: We have to answer the second one.
92 00:07:35.090 ⇒ 00:07:38.459 Demilade Agboola: So can you… can you assign a spike to me so I can look at this?
93 00:07:43.080 ⇒ 00:07:45.290 Amber Lin: Let me…
94 00:08:08.200 ⇒ 00:08:09.090 Amber Lin: Okay.
95 00:08:09.360 ⇒ 00:08:13.220 Amber Lin: Let’s do this… Oh.
96 00:08:14.030 ⇒ 00:08:22.180 Amber Lin: I would say this is higher priority than suborders. I would like this to be done today so we can send it to Zach.
97 00:08:22.440 ⇒ 00:08:23.160 Amber Lin: Do you agree?
98 00:08:23.160 ⇒ 00:08:23.520 Demilade Agboola: dear.
99 00:08:23.880 ⇒ 00:08:24.390 Amber Lin: Okay.
100 00:08:24.390 ⇒ 00:08:25.020 Demilade Agboola: Yeah.
101 00:08:25.360 ⇒ 00:08:26.380 Amber Lin: Okay, so…
102 00:08:26.380 ⇒ 00:08:33.109 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so… Demolati, there’s… in Shopify, in the tables, there should be something around order attribution.
103 00:08:33.299 ⇒ 00:08:34.539 Uttam Kumaran: You can check.
104 00:08:35.220 ⇒ 00:08:45.620 Uttam Kumaran: I just don’t know what the mechanism is, like, I don’t know if Northbeam is writing to that table, or Northbeam is just, like, visualizing the data from that table.
105 00:08:45.740 ⇒ 00:08:50.129 Uttam Kumaran: But the common use case for Northbeam is to, like, put pixels everywhere and then track
106 00:08:50.750 ⇒ 00:08:54.079 Uttam Kumaran: where did this order gets attributed to, you know, so…
107 00:08:54.590 ⇒ 00:09:00.839 Uttam Kumaran: We just need to basically tell them that, or again, like, you can try to log into Northbeam and get a manual export out.
108 00:09:03.470 ⇒ 00:09:06.909 Demilade Agboola: Yeah, so, yeah, basically trying to see if there’s a way to, like.
109 00:09:08.520 ⇒ 00:09:14.030 Demilade Agboola: put pieces together from either Shopify or through a minor export. Well, we’ll see, we’ll see.
110 00:09:15.790 ⇒ 00:09:19.739 Demilade Agboola: Also, based on your task, are there any other things that we can take off?
111 00:09:20.770 ⇒ 00:09:31.039 Amber Lin: I was looking at this, this is from our meeting with Zach to share the pricing options for the… for the observability tools, and I was thinking that a Wish could help with this.
112 00:09:31.540 ⇒ 00:09:36.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this is also one we should turn into a, like a marketing asset.
113 00:09:37.550 ⇒ 00:09:40.569 Uttam Kumaran: Which is, like, a comparison document between these.
114 00:09:40.690 ⇒ 00:09:44.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Awish can definitely take this.
115 00:09:49.400 ⇒ 00:09:52.450 Amber Lin: That’s blocked.
116 00:09:52.820 ⇒ 00:09:57.870 Amber Lin: Subscriptions… so these two were ad hocs from last week. Were they.
117 00:09:57.870 ⇒ 00:09:58.550 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so…
118 00:09:58.550 ⇒ 00:09:59.749 Amber Lin: This one’s quite old.
119 00:10:00.920 ⇒ 00:10:03.610 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this one I don’t think has been done yet.
120 00:10:04.110 ⇒ 00:10:05.160 Uttam Kumaran: But.
121 00:10:05.800 ⇒ 00:10:08.929 Demilade Agboola: You can think this to me, like, you can send this to me, it says…
122 00:10:08.930 ⇒ 00:10:09.630 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
123 00:10:11.020 ⇒ 00:10:11.650 Amber Lin: Okay.
124 00:10:13.050 ⇒ 00:10:15.519 Amber Lin: So, the two ad hocs here.
125 00:10:21.150 ⇒ 00:10:23.469 Amber Lin: Is this the same item from Michael?
126 00:10:25.340 ⇒ 00:10:28.269 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, this one I’m working on, this one I’ll just take.
127 00:10:28.550 ⇒ 00:10:29.220 Amber Lin: Okay.
128 00:10:29.400 ⇒ 00:10:37.320 Amber Lin: And then, from Tazik… I believe this is the original one, like this… assume this is…
129 00:10:37.960 ⇒ 00:10:40.130 Amber Lin: Closed, or are you still working on it?
130 00:10:40.130 ⇒ 00:10:42.690 Uttam Kumaran: But I think there’s only one issue, both of these are the same issue.
131 00:10:42.690 ⇒ 00:10:47.159 Amber Lin: Yeah, yeah, I think the other one was an add-on from this, so I’ll just close this.
132 00:10:47.160 ⇒ 00:10:47.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
133 00:10:48.070 ⇒ 00:10:50.650 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, preview cycle…
134 00:10:50.650 ⇒ 00:10:57.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll, I’ll just basically work… I’m gonna be working on this the rest of the day.
135 00:10:58.730 ⇒ 00:11:13.619 Amber Lin: And then once we get Perry to review, I might pull these snapshots and summary tables in. Since Abuisha’s joining, I will assign these that I pushed out for your capacity. I’ll assign them to him.
136 00:11:16.000 ⇒ 00:11:18.139 Amber Lin: And then… let’s see…
137 00:11:24.910 ⇒ 00:11:28.019 Amber Lin: Is there still any models? Oh, I see.
138 00:11:28.400 ⇒ 00:11:31.999 Amber Lin: Has this been done yet to unschedule these models?
139 00:11:35.410 ⇒ 00:11:38.240 Uttam Kumaran: No, this is a… this is just a low priority.
140 00:11:38.240 ⇒ 00:11:38.970 Amber Lin: Okay.
141 00:11:38.970 ⇒ 00:11:41.420 Uttam Kumaran: So, like, this one, Awash can do.
142 00:11:42.140 ⇒ 00:11:45.980 Demilade Agboola: But also, I’m currently working on jobs, so if that’s something…
143 00:11:46.510 ⇒ 00:11:48.539 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, if you want to take this, that’s fine too.
144 00:11:48.770 ⇒ 00:11:49.610 Demilade Agboola: That’s fine.
145 00:11:54.770 ⇒ 00:12:05.389 Amber Lin: Oms refunds… DIM products, adding some categories, and the two that we assigned.
146 00:12:06.400 ⇒ 00:12:07.040 Amber Lin: Okay.
147 00:12:07.180 ⇒ 00:12:10.880 Amber Lin: Check just… checking on what’s left, and for everything to work.
148 00:12:11.370 ⇒ 00:12:25.510 Amber Lin: I think mostly after that’s done, and subscription’s done, we can move on to the summary tables. And then Emily’s back next week, so we can start the Looker stuff, so we should be back on track. I booked a sync tomorrow.
149 00:12:25.860 ⇒ 00:12:27.870 Amber Lin: with a wish, I think.
150 00:12:28.440 ⇒ 00:12:30.509 Amber Lin: A similar time?
151 00:12:30.700 ⇒ 00:12:40.769 Amber Lin: From at now, so that would be, yeah, same time as today, so 11, or you’re 1 in PM CST, 1 hour with a wish.
152 00:12:41.370 ⇒ 00:12:43.380 Amber Lin: Alright.
153 00:12:43.660 ⇒ 00:12:49.609 Amber Lin: That should be all. I’m gonna add some due dates, and then confirm estimates.
154 00:12:52.160 ⇒ 00:12:53.050 Demilade Agboola: Sounds great.
155 00:12:53.050 ⇒ 00:12:58.369 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. Yeah, Demolat, I assume you know, like, we’re gonna start to loop in a ways on some stuff here.
156 00:12:58.550 ⇒ 00:13:02.040 Uttam Kumaran: And then, I think overall, I’m gonna… I think we’re gonna…
157 00:13:02.310 ⇒ 00:13:09.499 Uttam Kumaran: see if I have to go on the hunt, I think, for one more AIE to sort of join our group.
158 00:13:09.770 ⇒ 00:13:18.619 Uttam Kumaran: Finally, which is gonna be great, so I’m gonna start to look through that, but I think for now, I think we’re pretty good across clients, so you let me know.
159 00:13:19.300 ⇒ 00:13:25.580 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good. Also, just a quick question. On the incoming projects, just slightly, are there any, like, AA…
160 00:13:26.210 ⇒ 00:13:27.120 Demilade Agboola: Proscope.
161 00:13:27.120 ⇒ 00:13:27.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
162 00:13:27.910 ⇒ 00:13:28.800 Demilade Agboola: So, okay.
163 00:13:28.970 ⇒ 00:13:33.399 Uttam Kumaran: Not all of them are. Some are AI, some are data.
164 00:13:33.600 ⇒ 00:13:36.150 Uttam Kumaran: The only problem is, like, I can’t…
165 00:13:36.800 ⇒ 00:13:40.119 Uttam Kumaran: The trouble we’re in right now is, like, I can’t…
166 00:13:40.290 ⇒ 00:13:43.410 Uttam Kumaran: We can’t do allocations for those until they sign.
167 00:13:44.160 ⇒ 00:13:44.979 Demilade Agboola: Fair, fair enough.
168 00:13:44.980 ⇒ 00:13:51.690 Uttam Kumaran: So until… until they’re signed, I then… Justin and Amber sort of start to work on who’s going to be allocated.
169 00:13:53.630 ⇒ 00:13:59.159 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’m just trying to not jump the gun and, like, go bring on more people, or, like, start to…
170 00:13:59.500 ⇒ 00:14:03.099 Uttam Kumaran: look at that until those are, like, completely signed. Once they’re signed.
171 00:14:03.730 ⇒ 00:14:06.160 Uttam Kumaran: We have a little bit of time to figure that out.
172 00:14:07.340 ⇒ 00:14:10.840 Uttam Kumaran: I have one good candidate for DE,
173 00:14:11.110 ⇒ 00:14:13.270 Uttam Kumaran: And then I need to,
174 00:14:14.500 ⇒ 00:14:20.280 Uttam Kumaran: no one really stands out for AE work, actually, so…
175 00:14:20.500 ⇒ 00:14:22.480 Uttam Kumaran: I know we talked to,
176 00:14:23.420 ⇒ 00:14:30.430 Uttam Kumaran: forgot his name from DataCulture. I know we… or who was at Data Culture? I know we talked to him a bit, but I know he was busy, and so I’m trying to think about
177 00:14:30.580 ⇒ 00:14:32.730 Uttam Kumaran: If there’s anyone else in my network to consider.
178 00:14:33.450 ⇒ 00:14:35.760 Demilade Agboola: Okay. Yeah, fair enough, fair enough.
179 00:14:36.040 ⇒ 00:14:40.809 Demilade Agboola: I was just, I was just curious, cause, just wanted to know what the future looked like.
180 00:14:41.680 ⇒ 00:14:49.189 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we do have… I mean, I think we do have, for example, we have Insomnia and Ellie, like, some of those will become…
181 00:14:50.030 ⇒ 00:14:52.019 Uttam Kumaran: data modeling, soon.
182 00:14:52.310 ⇒ 00:14:54.140 Uttam Kumaran: Maybe by the next month or two.
183 00:14:54.440 ⇒ 00:14:58.150 Uttam Kumaran: So, those ones, when they expand, will have a bit more.
184 00:15:00.280 ⇒ 00:15:06.139 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I think… I think one thing to consider is, like, for your work across Eden and for this, like.
185 00:15:06.330 ⇒ 00:15:10.510 Uttam Kumaran: Start thinking about if there’s anything that you think is, like, more junior, or, like…
186 00:15:11.010 ⇒ 00:15:12.629 Uttam Kumaran: hey, I think I can…
187 00:15:12.900 ⇒ 00:15:18.570 Uttam Kumaran: pass this off to someone more junior, we can start to hand those off, and that way I can kind of keep you more in, like.
188 00:15:19.050 ⇒ 00:15:22.500 Uttam Kumaran: the stuff that’s net new, but I don’t know, something we can talk about this week.
189 00:15:22.990 ⇒ 00:15:25.230 Demilade Agboola: Okay, sounds good. Look forward to that.
190 00:15:25.580 ⇒ 00:15:26.899 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect.
191 00:15:27.330 ⇒ 00:15:28.360 Demilade Agboola: Alright, sounds good.
192 00:15:28.620 ⇒ 00:15:29.960 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thank you guys.
193 00:15:30.130 ⇒ 00:15:31.140 Amber Lin: Alright, thanks.
194 00:15:31.620 ⇒ 00:15:32.150 Demilade Agboola: Base.
195 00:15:32.150 ⇒ 00:15:32.820 Amber Lin: Right.