Meeting Title: Data Team Weekly Sync Date: 2025-09-11 Meeting participants: Awaish Kumar, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:15:25.270 00:15:26.409 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, Wish.

2 00:15:29.130 00:15:30.300 Awaish Kumar: Hmm, hello.

3 00:15:30.870 00:15:32.190 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, how’s everything?

4 00:15:32.840 00:15:34.330 Awaish Kumar: All good, how about you?

5 00:15:35.560 00:15:37.330 Uttam Kumaran: Good. It’s a busy week.

6 00:15:37.460 00:15:39.020 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, same old.

7 00:15:39.540 00:15:40.740 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

8 00:15:46.020 00:15:50.529 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, yeah, I don’t know, tell me what you would like to cover today.

9 00:15:52.290 00:15:55.430 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, I…

10 00:15:59.140 00:16:04.569 Awaish Kumar: Like, didn’t, like, have… Any specific agenda, we…

11 00:16:04.940 00:16:09.650 Awaish Kumar: But, yeah, I actually booked a meeting with Alex on this,

12 00:16:10.680 00:16:17.120 Awaish Kumar: Topic, like, how to communicate with a… broader team.

13 00:16:17.400 00:16:20.509 Uttam Kumaran: Right. But he actually wanted me to have.

14 00:16:21.090 00:16:25.199 Awaish Kumar: Booked to book it on Friday, so it’s booked on… for tomorrow.

15 00:16:25.620 00:16:26.740 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

16 00:16:27.200 00:16:32.270 Awaish Kumar: Apart from that, yeah, I think Rico, like, he…

17 00:16:32.780 00:16:36.630 Awaish Kumar: He also started, inviting for Coffee Rollit.

18 00:16:38.830 00:16:41.359 Awaish Kumar: For the team, for the team members, yeah.

19 00:16:42.140 00:16:51.260 Awaish Kumar: But apart from that, I… I just want, maybe, like, Have your… Feedback on, I’m like…

20 00:16:52.520 00:16:56.690 Awaish Kumar: On the… on the direction, like, where… what

21 00:16:57.880 00:17:05.490 Awaish Kumar: I can take on, which direction should I take, like, to, to…

22 00:17:06.079 00:17:12.440 Awaish Kumar: To, let’s just say… like…

23 00:17:14.560 00:17:17.440 Awaish Kumar: To oversee, like, all the other…

24 00:17:17.569 00:17:24.299 Awaish Kumar: clients where… where basically I’m not part of, so I have started some of the initiatives we discussed, like,

25 00:17:24.520 00:17:28.130 Awaish Kumar: Adding more linear labels, and

26 00:17:28.790 00:17:38.500 Awaish Kumar: Communicating with the team on categorization of different tickets, if we want to, like, to differentiate between data issues and ad hoc tasks, and…

27 00:17:38.880 00:17:46.910 Awaish Kumar: And the data issues, which are basically for newly built model, so, things like that.

28 00:17:47.030 00:17:52.560 Awaish Kumar: So I just want to… want maybe your direction on how, like, apart from Eden.

29 00:17:52.840 00:17:57.680 Awaish Kumar: on other climbs, how can I be more Oh, Jesus.

30 00:17:57.820 00:18:01.219 Awaish Kumar: Participant there, or, like, maybe…

31 00:18:07.010 00:18:10.839 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I think, I think it’s sort of…

32 00:18:11.040 00:18:26.879 Uttam Kumaran: like, I don’t… I guess my feedback would be, there’s gonna be clients that even I’m not involved in, right? Like, I’m not involved in… in Ellie, I’m not involved in Eden, so I don’t think the goal is to be involved in every client. The goal is actually just to make sure that

33 00:18:27.070 00:18:35.220 Uttam Kumaran: anything that touches, sort of, data work is done, like, well. So I feel like our OKRs sort of, like.

34 00:18:35.340 00:18:38.760 Uttam Kumaran: cover that, you know, and I know we’re, like.

35 00:18:39.380 00:18:41.079 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s where I would say, like.

36 00:18:41.580 00:18:46.399 Uttam Kumaran: In terms of feedback, it’s just that we have to start to make sure that we’re making progress every week.

37 00:18:47.040 00:18:53.389 Uttam Kumaran: towards those OKRs. Right now, we’re… we’re still pretty small, but I know that,

38 00:18:53.900 00:19:09.789 Uttam Kumaran: you know, there is… there is DE work across Eden, there’s… there is the… like, Sam ended up taking on the transcript work, there is still, like, some issues with Daxter and… and internal reporting, so I think there’s still plenty of work.

39 00:19:10.010 00:19:11.610 Uttam Kumaran: I guess…

40 00:19:11.790 00:19:24.950 Uttam Kumaran: my question, is more about, like, okay, if… I guess if your question is, like, hey, I have more time, it’s like, okay, well, the OKRs aren’t really accomplished yet, right? So, that’s where I would probably

41 00:19:25.380 00:19:32.620 Uttam Kumaran: saying, okay, that’s, like, that’s still the North Star. You know, nothing really… nothing otherwise has kind of changed, because

42 00:19:32.800 00:19:37.650 Uttam Kumaran: We’re still… we’re still selling and bringing on more clients.

43 00:19:37.790 00:19:44.080 Uttam Kumaran: I think… I don’t… I don’t think there’s necessarily, like, additional, like, you know, data work on other clients right now.

44 00:19:45.450 00:19:46.140 Awaish Kumar: No more.

45 00:19:47.420 00:19:52.949 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like… like, I didn’t mean, like, the development work, most…

46 00:19:53.180 00:19:58.599 Awaish Kumar: like, the OKRs we are… we are tracking, like, most of it covers…

47 00:19:59.010 00:20:06.160 Awaish Kumar: Like, for example, how the progress is happening on each of the clients, and we can see it in tickets.

48 00:20:06.450 00:20:11.310 Awaish Kumar: But apart… apart from that, like.

49 00:20:11.870 00:20:17.069 Awaish Kumar: For ABC, for example, today we… I had a meeting with Casey on,

50 00:20:17.550 00:20:23.270 Awaish Kumar: On this, like, on, like, architecting the solution for… this inspector…

51 00:20:23.610 00:20:29.370 Awaish Kumar: Form data, and how the flows, are going to be.

52 00:20:29.890 00:20:34.210 Awaish Kumar: And how it can… how everything will be automated.

53 00:20:34.350 00:20:36.489 Awaish Kumar: So, things like that, like,

54 00:20:36.650 00:20:44.340 Awaish Kumar: Seeing if somebody’s stuck, and maybe providing guidance, and helping them with the architecting the…

55 00:20:45.770 00:20:53.390 Awaish Kumar: the projects, I wanted to… I wanted to be more, like, Kind of…

56 00:20:54.690 00:21:01.870 Awaish Kumar: to be more involved in the team, so that if there’s anything, they can just… so I will be maybe their go-to person.

57 00:21:02.700 00:21:03.020 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

58 00:21:03.020 00:21:06.239 Awaish Kumar: Instead of… instead of, like, them picking you.

59 00:21:07.270 00:21:24.579 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, I mean, since we talked last, I’m sending everybody your way. Like, I’m not, I’m not taking on more, you know, data work myself. I just think there’s a diff… there’s, you know, gonna be things that are for clients, and things that are gonna be internal, so, like.

60 00:21:24.680 00:21:29.519 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I mean, I still… I feel like, since last conversation, not much has…

61 00:21:30.000 00:21:33.799 Uttam Kumaran: like, change on my side, so I still am trying to direct as much

62 00:21:34.010 00:21:38.700 Uttam Kumaran: to you as possible. You know, folks are still, like.

63 00:21:38.870 00:21:47.239 Uttam Kumaran: trying to, like, for example, like, we worked on, like, the analytics repo. The next thing to really start working on

64 00:21:47.460 00:21:49.090 Uttam Kumaran: After the,

65 00:21:49.370 00:21:59.300 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a… yeah, again, I think the OKRs really cover everything I want to start seeing on the engineering quality side, and then we’re going to start working on playbooks and things like that, so I don’t really have much…

66 00:21:59.430 00:22:03.970 Uttam Kumaran: More feedback since, sort of, the last time, on anything particular.

67 00:22:04.140 00:22:14.519 Uttam Kumaran: You know, I… I guess I… for me, I definitely have been listening and trying to just, you know, have you looped in on anything data work-wise.

68 00:22:14.630 00:22:17.149 Uttam Kumaran: And then I can kind of play back up, so…

69 00:22:20.300 00:22:28.820 Awaish Kumar: Okay, apart from that, I just… I saw you… you tagged me in some of these services.

70 00:22:29.040 00:22:39.670 Awaish Kumar: On the Notion pages. Yes. I have been collecting, some of these services, but I don’t know, like, do we want a really specific, like.

71 00:22:40.070 00:22:48.809 Awaish Kumar: I saw some… like, as you mentioned, like, I have high-level categories, but then there are really…

72 00:22:49.050 00:22:51.559 Awaish Kumar: Specific tasks which are…

73 00:22:52.030 00:22:59.390 Awaish Kumar: which are really needed in the market, for example, migration of the data pipelines from on-prem to cloud.

74 00:22:59.800 00:23:00.260 Uttam Kumaran: Jess.

75 00:23:00.260 00:23:06.329 Awaish Kumar: That’s, like… that’s, like, not a high-level thing, but that’s really specific surveys.

76 00:23:06.450 00:23:07.240 Awaish Kumar: So, like.

77 00:23:07.240 00:23:12.100 Uttam Kumaran: No, I don’t think… I actually think that’s fairly… high

78 00:23:12.390 00:23:22.889 Uttam Kumaran: Which is fine, like, I guess… guess the architecture of, like, those services is, like, when we go and people are saying, okay, what can you do for me? I want to say, like, here’s what’s on the menu.

79 00:23:23.430 00:23:23.980 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

80 00:23:23.980 00:23:27.030 Uttam Kumaran: Similar, here’s with our menu, and here’s our special.

81 00:23:27.140 00:23:46.390 Uttam Kumaran: We’re running this month, right? So what are the offers? Okay, here’s actually, like, a demo of what we can do. So I do think, like, migrations, is definitely one thing that we… we can offer as a service, which is, like, migration assistance and execution. I think we have a list of playbooks related to those migration, right?

82 00:23:47.890 00:23:48.600 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

83 00:23:48.970 00:23:55.470 Awaish Kumar: So… Yeah, and then there are different kind of migrations, like migration from

84 00:23:55.600 00:24:03.839 Awaish Kumar: of data pipelines, then migrations from one warehouse to another, like Snowflake to Mother Duck. So, do we want to go to really specific

85 00:24:04.350 00:24:05.749 Awaish Kumar: Like, I just…

86 00:24:05.750 00:24:06.100 Uttam Kumaran: evening.

87 00:24:06.100 00:24:06.639 Awaish Kumar: I agree.

88 00:24:06.640 00:24:15.690 Uttam Kumaran: Rocky, on the playbooks will be specific, but the services will be… will start off kind of broad.

89 00:24:15.920 00:24:16.879 Uttam Kumaran: For now. Okay.

90 00:24:17.550 00:24:24.809 Uttam Kumaran: Like, it will… it will start off, like, kind of where it is, where it’s fairly broad, because when we talk

91 00:24:25.420 00:24:33.300 Uttam Kumaran: to, like, the… our buyers, they’re at a higher level. But as soon as we go to execution, we will need playbooks for all of those.

92 00:24:33.420 00:24:38.849 Uttam Kumaran: So, ETL migration, data warehouse migration, BI migration will be different playbooks.

93 00:24:39.040 00:24:43.609 Awaish Kumar: And then as part of the service, it’ll just be higher-level data migration.

94 00:24:43.750 00:24:46.940 Uttam Kumaran: Because that way, if a client asks, we can go in-depth, but…

95 00:24:47.290 00:24:57.840 Uttam Kumaran: where every single one of those has 10 subservices and angles, right? So, what you’re seeing there is sort of just a high level… because ideally, what I want to do is map

96 00:24:57.930 00:25:08.960 Uttam Kumaran: all of those services to a past client. Okay, so we’re in Urban Stems, we’re doing BI work for them, we’re doing ETL work for them, so, like, I can map services to clients.

97 00:25:09.120 00:25:22.570 Uttam Kumaran: I can map playbooks to those services. And then the offer is… the offer is really like, okay, we want to offer, like, our 5-day data sprint, or something like that, as more of an offer, right?

98 00:25:24.270 00:25:31.300 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, like, database, like, for August 10th, we did, like, the… the…

99 00:25:31.550 00:25:37.500 Awaish Kumar: Data warehouse and the cost optimization, right, also.

100 00:25:37.500 00:25:38.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

101 00:25:39.410 00:25:40.240 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

102 00:25:41.740 00:25:46.960 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, those could be services. I was just listing down

103 00:25:47.350 00:25:49.950 Awaish Kumar: A few of them, and, like.

104 00:25:50.380 00:25:52.730 Awaish Kumar: this list just grows, like, if I just…

105 00:25:53.350 00:25:56.459 Awaish Kumar: To be really specific, then we have a lot of things.

106 00:25:57.820 00:26:04.440 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I think… and what you’re saying there is just so that, like, I want to make sure that when we come and ask this, I’m like, here’s what we do.

107 00:26:04.660 00:26:12.990 Uttam Kumaran: And for me, it’s gonna be… this is the bridge between sales, delivery and engineering, right? So…

108 00:26:14.980 00:26:15.740 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

109 00:26:16.290 00:26:17.010 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

110 00:26:21.200 00:26:39.590 Uttam Kumaran: So for us, it’s just continuing to make sure that we, like, are confident in the things that we’re doing, and then how easily can I define them? Because when we go to a client, and we have their ear, I want to pitch them as many things as we can do, right? But it’s also… this is where, like, I think it’s… we just have to solve the OKRs that are in front of us first.

111 00:26:39.700 00:26:42.520 Uttam Kumaran: As fast as we can, because we have to nail that

112 00:26:42.710 00:26:55.580 Uttam Kumaran: our delivery is tight, and then we can start expanding the types of things that we can do. You know, also, I want to… given that we’re gonna… once we start developing playbooks, we can actually get people that are maybe not as senior

113 00:26:55.840 00:27:00.500 Uttam Kumaran: But because they have the playbook, they can operate at a higher level, right?

114 00:27:00.780 00:27:07.499 Uttam Kumaran: You know, so that’s where it’s, like, getting a junior person, giving them the playbook.

115 00:27:08.150 00:27:21.619 Uttam Kumaran: is… is, like, actually will save us money and give them that person better training, right? So when a PM says, cool, for this client, we’re doing these 3 services, these 3 packages, here are the documentation on those.

116 00:27:21.880 00:27:25.820 Uttam Kumaran: In case you have a question, here’s the subject matter expert, you know?

117 00:27:26.840 00:27:28.090 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, okay, yeah.

118 00:27:28.630 00:27:29.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

119 00:27:31.150 00:27:32.080 Awaish Kumar: God.

120 00:27:33.460 00:27:35.390 Awaish Kumar: Okay, understood.

121 00:27:35.930 00:27:40.560 Awaish Kumar: So, and apart from that, I have one more…

122 00:27:40.900 00:27:45.089 Awaish Kumar: think about the metaplane stuff? Yeah.

123 00:27:45.320 00:27:57.449 Awaish Kumar: like, I’ve been looking at it, so I couldn’t find… one of the things you mentioned about getting those ranges, I, like, didn’t quite get what did you mean?

124 00:27:58.060 00:28:02.490 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, so you can do a monitor… On a given metric.

125 00:28:05.220 00:28:05.790 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

126 00:28:05.790 00:28:14.400 Uttam Kumaran: And you put in, like, you can actually specify standard deviations from From victory.

127 00:28:14.400 00:28:15.330 Awaish Kumar: I’m yacht.

128 00:28:15.330 00:28:16.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

129 00:28:17.150 00:28:22.419 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we can… we could say, like, okay, if it’s just 2% off, then skip it, and…

130 00:28:23.490 00:28:30.639 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, exactly. Like, you should only care if it’s more than 5% or 10%, or whatever it is.

131 00:28:30.790 00:28:31.400 Uttam Kumaran: Right?

132 00:28:31.400 00:28:32.060 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

133 00:28:32.320 00:28:37.410 Uttam Kumaran: That way, you can push back on them and say, look, it’s within our… it’s within our SLA, so…

134 00:28:39.390 00:28:49.999 Awaish Kumar: Okay, but how do we define, like, on the meta… like, not defining in metaplane, I… what I mean is, like, we… for the known,

135 00:28:50.550 00:28:56.899 Awaish Kumar: Like, we have alerts, and we could see it’s… it’s deviated by 2%, we could say… see that in Metaplane.

136 00:28:57.060 00:29:00.289 Awaish Kumar: And say market has resolved, but…

137 00:29:00.490 00:29:06.570 Awaish Kumar: But the customer sometimes just comes in that, okay, this thing is off by 3% or 2%.

138 00:29:08.510 00:29:14.529 Awaish Kumar: Like, what are you… what do you think we should do, Ed? Like, should we show them just…

139 00:29:14.730 00:29:21.700 Awaish Kumar: the metaplane alert thing, that we captured it, but it is within the range, that’s why… Yes.

140 00:29:22.260 00:29:31.349 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly. Because, like, they… their evidence is that it’s… they don’t have any evidence, so if you come with the table with evidence, then the burden is now on them, right? But, like.

141 00:29:31.640 00:29:34.680 Uttam Kumaran: If we… we have to investigate everything at this point.

142 00:29:37.490 00:29:38.240 Uttam Kumaran: Right.

143 00:29:41.000 00:29:46.259 Uttam Kumaran: Like, for urban stems, right, we don’t even have that, we’re just mainly trying to get the jobs to all run.

144 00:29:46.700 00:29:50.700 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’re gonna start implementing more checks on values.

145 00:29:51.640 00:29:52.980 Awaish Kumar: Okay, yup.

146 00:29:56.330 00:29:56.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

147 00:29:57.930 00:30:01.280 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, we could… we could do… find… figure that out, like, we…

148 00:30:01.390 00:30:05.890 Awaish Kumar: I have, like, as I mentioned, we started adding the levels.

149 00:30:06.180 00:30:15.130 Awaish Kumar: For the data issues, so once we have that, maybe we… for the end of the week, or maybe end of the sprint, we just go over those data issues.

150 00:30:15.260 00:30:20.680 Awaish Kumar: And just see if any of them can be translated into a metaplain test.

151 00:30:21.080 00:30:25.140 Awaish Kumar: If yes, we can just… Ticket them,

152 00:30:25.680 00:30:28.730 Awaish Kumar: Create tickets for those, and then, implement them.

153 00:30:29.410 00:30:30.010 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

154 00:30:31.410 00:30:32.030 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.

155 00:30:35.460 00:30:36.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.

156 00:30:37.600 00:30:39.620 Awaish Kumar: But that won’t be, like…

157 00:30:40.400 00:30:47.840 Awaish Kumar: Like, really proactive, like, still, like, we are dependent on if there are any data issues.

158 00:30:49.420 00:30:57.959 Awaish Kumar: like, come… any data issue comes in, then we see if there’s an issue, then we create alerts. We are still following that, process.

159 00:30:58.620 00:31:01.600 Uttam Kumaran: Yes. Yeah. But, but still, like…

160 00:31:01.840 00:31:06.559 Uttam Kumaran: at least we know and we can triage at that point. And it’s more about communication, you know?

161 00:31:06.950 00:31:07.620 Awaish Kumar: Huh.

162 00:31:07.880 00:31:08.670 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

163 00:31:10.920 00:31:12.300 Awaish Kumar: Okay, yeah, that’s it.

164 00:31:14.110 00:31:15.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.

165 00:31:17.110 00:31:20.010 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, let me get into more coffee.

166 00:31:20.200 00:31:22.150 Uttam Kumaran: And then it’ll be on the next meeting.

167 00:31:23.190 00:31:24.179 Awaish Kumar: Okay, sure.

168 00:31:24.620 00:31:30.189 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Thank you, dude. Oh, yeah, and I tried the repo and everything, it’s working.

169 00:31:30.960 00:31:36.149 Uttam Kumaran: the analytics repo, so I’m gonna make all… I’m gonna make some changes, and then I also invited you to Omni.

170 00:31:36.410 00:31:39.469 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna set up Omni as well.

171 00:31:39.470 00:31:40.050 Awaish Kumar: Peace.

172 00:31:40.340 00:31:41.359 Uttam Kumaran: For a demo.

173 00:31:42.360 00:31:49.320 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, I saw the Omni, but I couldn’t find, like, how to connect. I haven’t spent much more, like, I spent.

174 00:31:49.320 00:31:54.489 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll set up the new pro a little bit. I’ll connect it to our Snowflake and connect it to…

175 00:31:55.350 00:31:56.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll get it connected.

176 00:31:57.240 00:31:58.080 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

177 00:32:03.360 00:32:04.020 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

178 00:32:05.910 00:32:10.540 Awaish Kumar: This is… I also saw you were inviting me on, real…

179 00:32:11.440 00:32:13.320 Awaish Kumar: For pool parts, like, if you want.

180 00:32:13.320 00:32:13.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s true.

181 00:32:13.910 00:32:14.920 Awaish Kumar: Anything, or…

182 00:32:14.920 00:32:18.190 Uttam Kumaran: No, just so that more people have access.

183 00:32:18.590 00:32:20.180 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so…

184 00:32:20.750 00:32:21.350 Awaish Kumar: Okay.

185 00:32:25.420 00:32:26.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.

186 00:32:28.200 00:32:29.350 Awaish Kumar: Alright, alright.

187 00:32:29.420 00:32:31.159 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you, bye.