Meeting Title: Supabase and Salesforce Integration Discussion Date: 2025-09-09 Meeting participants: Samuel Roberts, Mustafa Raja
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1 00:00:19.940 ⇒ 00:00:20.970 Samuel Roberts: Ayy.
2 00:00:21.500 ⇒ 00:00:22.610 Mustafa Raja: Hey, how about you?
3 00:00:23.470 ⇒ 00:00:25.220 Samuel Roberts: Doing alright, how about yourself?
4 00:00:25.630 ⇒ 00:00:26.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, doing good.
5 00:00:27.310 ⇒ 00:00:30.380 Mustafa Raja: Everything good? You went to the doctor?
6 00:00:30.980 ⇒ 00:00:41.970 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s just a follow-up appointment. I have, like, some sleep stuff. I guess it’s just, like, a follow-up, so nothing, nothing too bad, fortunately. I thought it was a virtual appointment, that’s what I had on my.
7 00:00:41.970 ⇒ 00:00:42.840 Mustafa Raja: calendar? No.
8 00:00:42.840 ⇒ 00:00:49.270 Samuel Roberts: And I fortunately had to log in to check something and saw it wasn’t virtual, so I was kind of scrambling to get to the appointment.
9 00:00:49.270 ⇒ 00:00:50.470 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
10 00:00:50.470 ⇒ 00:00:51.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
11 00:00:52.230 ⇒ 00:00:53.260 Samuel Roberts: Everything’s good.
12 00:00:55.390 ⇒ 00:00:56.300 Mustafa Raja: So.
13 00:00:56.460 ⇒ 00:00:57.250 Samuel Roberts: Go ahead.
14 00:00:57.620 ⇒ 00:01:04.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we are going to talk about three things. One more thing is the… Ewild thing.
15 00:01:05.019 ⇒ 00:01:05.859 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
16 00:01:05.860 ⇒ 00:01:07.930 Mustafa Raja: So those 3 things we’ll be talking about.
17 00:01:08.370 ⇒ 00:01:09.020 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
18 00:01:09.700 ⇒ 00:01:14.109 Mustafa Raja: Okay, let’s start from the memory for DEX agent.
19 00:01:14.270 ⇒ 00:01:18.089 Mustafa Raja: I’ll share my screen to kind of understand where we stand.
20 00:01:18.540 ⇒ 00:01:19.960 Mustafa Raja: Perfect.
21 00:01:21.610 ⇒ 00:01:32.220 Mustafa Raja: So, yeah, from, from here, what we do is we send the whole deck back, and obviously we have… we have to have that. In… in our Slack.
22 00:01:32.400 ⇒ 00:01:35.620 Mustafa Raja: To kind of see,
23 00:01:36.280 ⇒ 00:01:40.320 Mustafa Raja: Can they see the whole deck to be able to add it to that, right?
24 00:01:40.720 ⇒ 00:01:41.590 Samuel Roberts: Right.
25 00:01:41.710 ⇒ 00:01:55.079 Mustafa Raja: Now, what Utam wants is, if we are editing it, we should only send that particular section back. For that, we’ll have to have, we’ll have to have a state of our deck somewhere else.
26 00:01:55.570 ⇒ 00:02:01.710 Mustafa Raja: Where we can update with whatever changes, are being made over here.
27 00:02:01.820 ⇒ 00:02:05.000 Samuel Roberts: I was thinking about Superbase.
28 00:02:05.010 ⇒ 00:02:09.750 Mustafa Raja: Do you have any other ideas what we can use for that?
29 00:02:11.750 ⇒ 00:02:20.809 Samuel Roberts: Superbase? I mean, Superbase is nice to work with, it’s easy, you know, I don’t know… I don’t know what other… I’m sure it works with Benadne pretty well, because we’ve already been using it a bunch, right?
30 00:02:21.320 ⇒ 00:02:22.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
31 00:02:22.600 ⇒ 00:02:26.749 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think. So, I mean, all we really need to store is what the…
32 00:02:26.940 ⇒ 00:02:29.470 Samuel Roberts: The content as just a big…
33 00:02:30.640 ⇒ 00:02:32.830 Samuel Roberts: Well, I don’t know, how is…
34 00:02:32.830 ⇒ 00:02:33.970 Mustafa Raja: So what I would assume…
35 00:02:33.970 ⇒ 00:02:34.850 Samuel Roberts: an object?
36 00:02:35.210 ⇒ 00:02:41.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, what I would store is whatever, so here we are converting it into the… what’s it called?
37 00:02:42.800 ⇒ 00:02:45.190 Mustafa Raja: Slack, JSON, right?
38 00:02:45.630 ⇒ 00:02:46.080 Samuel Roberts: Yep.
39 00:02:46.080 ⇒ 00:02:52.260 Mustafa Raja: So I would just store that JSON there, and keep updating that JSON over here.
40 00:02:52.830 ⇒ 00:02:53.590 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
41 00:02:57.050 ⇒ 00:03:04.019 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think if there’s anything beyond that that we need to worry about, because we could just store that JSON with the, I guess, the Slack…
42 00:03:04.160 ⇒ 00:03:05.450 Samuel Roberts: identifier.
43 00:03:06.740 ⇒ 00:03:08.269 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, hmm… what kind?
44 00:03:08.270 ⇒ 00:03:09.370 Samuel Roberts: How would we know which chat.
45 00:03:09.370 ⇒ 00:03:11.229 Mustafa Raja: Some sort of identifier, also.
46 00:03:11.230 ⇒ 00:03:12.040 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
47 00:03:12.650 ⇒ 00:03:20.629 Mustafa Raja: I guess then, what we can do is, there must be a thread, yes, thread…
48 00:03:20.630 ⇒ 00:03:21.979 Samuel Roberts: Exactly, perfect, okay.
49 00:03:21.980 ⇒ 00:03:24.649 Mustafa Raja: Time… timestamp that we can use.
50 00:03:25.600 ⇒ 00:03:27.210 Samuel Roberts: Okay, wait, click on that again?
51 00:03:27.210 ⇒ 00:03:29.380 Mustafa Raja: The first time, this…
52 00:03:29.660 ⇒ 00:03:31.520 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so that’s the thread timestamp.
53 00:03:31.710 ⇒ 00:03:32.840 Samuel Roberts: the…
54 00:03:32.840 ⇒ 00:03:34.910 Mustafa Raja: This is always going to be unique.
55 00:03:36.320 ⇒ 00:03:39.569 Samuel Roberts: Yes. And as long as we stay in the thread.
56 00:03:39.570 ⇒ 00:03:40.730 Mustafa Raja: It’s going to be the…
57 00:03:40.730 ⇒ 00:03:44.270 Samuel Roberts: Perfect. That’s what I’m thinking. Okay, just making sure it’s tied to that. Yeah, that makes sense.
58 00:03:44.270 ⇒ 00:03:45.320 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
59 00:03:46.520 ⇒ 00:03:47.650 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so yeah.
60 00:03:47.650 ⇒ 00:03:56.829 Mustafa Raja: So this is going to be the identifier, and then… yes, Super Peace, what do you feel about Super Peace?
61 00:03:59.300 ⇒ 00:04:02.840 Samuel Roberts: I mean, if it’s… it’s already set up, right, in some form?
62 00:04:03.760 ⇒ 00:04:06.340 Samuel Roberts: Are we using it? We’re not using it in this one, but we have it in other ones.
63 00:04:06.340 ⇒ 00:04:09.000 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, for Interlude, we haven’t used it.
64 00:04:09.650 ⇒ 00:04:10.280 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
65 00:04:10.420 ⇒ 00:04:11.449 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to…
66 00:04:11.450 ⇒ 00:04:12.380 Mustafa Raja: I’m annoying.
67 00:04:12.780 ⇒ 00:04:13.459 Samuel Roberts: Oh, go ahead.
68 00:04:13.790 ⇒ 00:04:19.869 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I don’t know if we… what other options do we have? Anyone memories…
69 00:04:19.870 ⇒ 00:04:22.189 Samuel Roberts: That’s what I was just about to ask, too, I’m not too familiar with it.
70 00:04:24.330 ⇒ 00:04:27.179 Mustafa Raja: Not this… not this…
71 00:04:27.860 ⇒ 00:04:30.469 Samuel Roberts: Postgres chat memory, that’s not quite it.
72 00:04:30.670 ⇒ 00:04:35.010 Mustafa Raja: No. That’s essentially superbase also.
73 00:04:35.370 ⇒ 00:04:42.359 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly, I was just trying to see what else we have here. We don’t want chat memory, we just need penny and then store it?
74 00:04:42.860 ⇒ 00:04:47.130 Mustafa Raja: Storage Don’t catch.
75 00:04:49.020 ⇒ 00:04:51.619 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m doing the same thing over here.
76 00:04:59.010 ⇒ 00:05:02.229 Mustafa Raja: Can we work with Redis, though?
77 00:05:04.690 ⇒ 00:05:06.540 Samuel Roberts: Oh yeah, looks like we can.
78 00:05:07.650 ⇒ 00:05:14.500 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m just trying to think, like, what do we want to have to worry about Manage.
79 00:05:14.500 ⇒ 00:05:15.070 Mustafa Raja: Just speaking out.
80 00:05:16.380 ⇒ 00:05:18.719 Samuel Roberts: what Redis will be connected to at this point?
81 00:05:20.660 ⇒ 00:05:22.539 Samuel Roberts: And would that be…
82 00:05:23.600 ⇒ 00:05:28.429 Mustafa Raja: I haven’t really worked with Redis, to be honest. I have… I’ve just heard good things about it.
83 00:05:28.880 ⇒ 00:05:33.579 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, it could work, because it would be… it’s a key value store, right?
84 00:05:33.960 ⇒ 00:05:36.200 Samuel Roberts: So, it would just be the…
85 00:05:36.450 ⇒ 00:05:41.080 Samuel Roberts: the Slack thread ID, and I guess the current .
86 00:05:43.240 ⇒ 00:05:43.640 Mustafa Raja: that.
87 00:05:43.640 ⇒ 00:05:52.429 Samuel Roberts: current… the current deck, yeah, thank you, I tried blanking on the word there, yeah, the whole… the whole thing. I’m debating if this is how we want to also kind of store any kind of,
88 00:05:54.370 ⇒ 00:05:56.330 Samuel Roberts: Changes or stuff over time.
89 00:05:56.520 ⇒ 00:05:57.869 Samuel Roberts: If we’re adding this now.
90 00:05:57.870 ⇒ 00:06:00.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, makes sense, makes sense.
91 00:06:00.800 ⇒ 00:06:02.280 Samuel Roberts: So that’s… so now I’m thinking.
92 00:06:02.670 ⇒ 00:06:08.889 Samuel Roberts: I mean, Redis would be good if it’s just a quick thing in and out, but if we’re gonna add, like, tracking
93 00:06:09.280 ⇒ 00:06:15.420 Samuel Roberts: You know, messages that they’re asking for, or… responses… I mean, I just…
94 00:06:16.920 ⇒ 00:06:20.079 Samuel Roberts: I want to think that through a little bit more before we settle on a,
95 00:06:21.610 ⇒ 00:06:28.119 Samuel Roberts: we settle on it. A choice here. So, what else, while we’re talking about this? So, the memory…
96 00:06:28.510 ⇒ 00:06:30.250 Samuel Roberts: for the…
97 00:06:30.460 ⇒ 00:06:38.729 Samuel Roberts: current deck is important. And then on linear, we had a few other things we were talking about, like the approval rejection.
98 00:06:39.340 ⇒ 00:06:40.490 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah.
99 00:06:41.500 ⇒ 00:06:46.110 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think, were there other… the feedback in general, like, do we want to keep track of that sort of stuff?
100 00:06:50.890 ⇒ 00:06:52.989 Mustafa Raja: Feedback in general, yes.
101 00:06:53.700 ⇒ 00:06:57.400 Samuel Roberts: whatever they say. Like, I’m just trying to think, until we have better, you know.
102 00:06:58.200 ⇒ 00:07:00.519 Samuel Roberts: Kind of general infrastructure for this.
103 00:07:01.190 ⇒ 00:07:02.849 Samuel Roberts: I’m not sure how, you know.
104 00:07:03.680 ⇒ 00:07:05.910 Samuel Roberts: How to keep track of all that stuff from end to end.
105 00:07:05.910 ⇒ 00:07:06.820 Mustafa Raja: Like, if…
106 00:07:06.820 ⇒ 00:07:13.430 Samuel Roberts: And I guess the real question, and maybe this is what we need to step back and think about, is what do we need to… what do we want to be keeping track of here, right?
107 00:07:14.460 ⇒ 00:07:22.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess there were tickets that we need to do, feedback, and some other sort of stuff. Yeah.
108 00:07:23.370 ⇒ 00:07:24.279 Mustafa Raja: There was the improvement.
109 00:07:24.280 ⇒ 00:07:28.729 Samuel Roberts: Approval… the approval revision log, decision logs, I think, is a big one at the top.
110 00:07:29.590 ⇒ 00:07:31.119 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
111 00:07:31.120 ⇒ 00:07:34.880 Samuel Roberts: That definitely is, like, something we can do, but I thought there was something else about…
112 00:07:36.080 ⇒ 00:07:38.579 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, there was something about feedback, I…
113 00:07:39.850 ⇒ 00:07:41.630 Mustafa Raja: I’m not seeing it right now.
114 00:07:41.630 ⇒ 00:07:44.669 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, huh, okay, let me… it’s fine, we’ll…
115 00:07:44.980 ⇒ 00:07:48.220 Samuel Roberts: Either way, we know, I mean, Utam talked about it too, you know, we want…
116 00:07:48.710 ⇒ 00:07:54.860 Samuel Roberts: You know, some combination of, like, the eval stuff, and the approval stuff, and the…
117 00:07:54.980 ⇒ 00:08:01.410 Samuel Roberts: the types of stuff they’re saying, maybe? I don’t know. It seems like we’re getting a little more than just keeping track of stuff.
118 00:08:03.180 ⇒ 00:08:12.899 Samuel Roberts: So if we were to create a… Super Base for this.
119 00:08:18.080 ⇒ 00:08:21.679 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to just roughly think out, like, the data.
120 00:08:22.070 ⇒ 00:08:23.380 Samuel Roberts: side of this.
121 00:08:25.830 ⇒ 00:08:28.310 Samuel Roberts: How to keep track of it over time, too.
122 00:08:30.270 ⇒ 00:08:30.970 Samuel Roberts: Hmm.
123 00:08:34.940 ⇒ 00:08:41.150 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Well, I would say this might be a bigger question than just right now,
124 00:08:41.870 ⇒ 00:08:48.309 Samuel Roberts: In the meantime, for your… Need of storing it.
125 00:08:49.560 ⇒ 00:08:54.990 Samuel Roberts: I think… Superbase makes sense, just because we have it all set up already.
126 00:08:56.040 ⇒ 00:09:03.370 Samuel Roberts: Postgres… is… Enough.
127 00:09:03.600 ⇒ 00:09:08.879 Samuel Roberts: reliable, it’s very useful, you know what I mean? Like, it’s good for a lot of stuff. So we probably just want to make in…
128 00:09:10.530 ⇒ 00:09:13.379 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for that, do we want to start a new project?
129 00:09:13.710 ⇒ 00:09:15.970 Mustafa Raja: It’s going to add some cost.
130 00:09:16.160 ⇒ 00:09:18.420 Samuel Roberts: Oh, of course, of course, okay.
131 00:09:20.720 ⇒ 00:09:22.970 Mustafa Raja: This is what we need to think about.
132 00:09:23.040 ⇒ 00:09:27.070 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, for default, I’m already… Go ahead, yeah.
133 00:09:27.410 ⇒ 00:09:38.609 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for default, I’m already using pool parts one. It really didn’t have anything, just these 5 rows over here, and I don’t think we’re using this anywhere.
134 00:09:39.150 ⇒ 00:09:44.029 Mustafa Raja: Okay. So, I needed, needed a database for default, so I just…
135 00:09:44.250 ⇒ 00:09:50.619 Mustafa Raja: So we can rename it later, if we want to, and this is for default. Okay.
136 00:09:50.870 ⇒ 00:09:54.300 Mustafa Raja: I… What’s this?
137 00:09:57.480 ⇒ 00:10:00.050 Samuel Roberts: Well, I think he’s refreshing.
138 00:10:00.710 ⇒ 00:10:03.020 Samuel Roberts: That happened to me one time. Oh, it’s still doing it.
139 00:10:03.180 ⇒ 00:10:03.950 Samuel Roberts: Huh.
140 00:10:05.150 ⇒ 00:10:07.740 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… and if you’re paying for it…
141 00:10:08.560 ⇒ 00:10:11.669 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s not good. Let me see if I can access it.
142 00:10:12.110 ⇒ 00:10:13.090 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
143 00:10:13.220 ⇒ 00:10:14.780 Samuel Roberts: That’s the GitHub one.
144 00:10:15.460 ⇒ 00:10:20.129 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and I see that there haven’t been any requests in 24 hours.
145 00:10:21.080 ⇒ 00:10:25.800 Mustafa Raja: So, if we are not using it, we can use it for this one.
146 00:10:29.350 ⇒ 00:10:31.970 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, if it’s not working, then I’m a little nervous about that.
147 00:10:34.000 ⇒ 00:10:38.650 Samuel Roberts: Project status is…
148 00:10:40.550 ⇒ 00:10:41.660 Mustafa Raja: Very bad, poor instrument.
149 00:10:41.660 ⇒ 00:10:44.089 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
150 00:10:44.310 ⇒ 00:10:46.670 Samuel Roberts: No results at all. Okay, so that one is…
151 00:10:47.140 ⇒ 00:10:50.809 Samuel Roberts: I don’t even know if we’re making use of that anywhere. This could be… this could be a…
152 00:10:51.080 ⇒ 00:10:54.889 Mustafa Raja: A chance to heal it and use it.
153 00:10:55.340 ⇒ 00:10:58.360 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Because if we ca- I guess if we can…
154 00:11:02.260 ⇒ 00:11:07.839 Mustafa Raja: If you can save cost by using this, and if this isn’t being used anywhere else.
155 00:11:09.130 ⇒ 00:11:12.470 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I… So are you…
156 00:11:12.620 ⇒ 00:11:14.980 Samuel Roberts: I actually don’t remember how the billing works here.
157 00:11:15.910 ⇒ 00:11:17.899 Samuel Roberts: thank you for paying
158 00:11:18.420 ⇒ 00:11:21.570 Samuel Roberts: I would say would just get rid of that one and create a new one.
159 00:11:21.900 ⇒ 00:11:23.910 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. If it’s so broken.
160 00:11:24.320 ⇒ 00:11:30.699 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess, for the… for deleting this, I would, I would let…
161 00:11:30.890 ⇒ 00:11:34.259 Mustafa Raja: Team know that it’s not working at all.
162 00:11:34.680 ⇒ 00:11:35.040 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
163 00:11:35.040 ⇒ 00:11:35.590 Mustafa Raja: There was.
164 00:11:35.590 ⇒ 00:11:36.710 Samuel Roberts: That’s another cookie.
165 00:11:36.710 ⇒ 00:11:37.380 Mustafa Raja: Do you think?
166 00:11:38.630 ⇒ 00:11:39.760 Samuel Roberts: Oh, what am I thinking?
167 00:11:40.380 ⇒ 00:11:41.800 Mustafa Raja: What’s this, though.
168 00:11:44.530 ⇒ 00:11:46.359 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is the…
169 00:11:55.790 ⇒ 00:11:58.820 Mustafa Raja: 150 records…
170 00:12:07.440 ⇒ 00:12:10.249 Mustafa Raja: I think it’s some… it’s for some demo then.
171 00:12:10.970 ⇒ 00:12:11.750 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, girl.
172 00:12:11.750 ⇒ 00:12:13.310 Mustafa Raja: Maybe we shouldn’t touch this.
173 00:12:13.800 ⇒ 00:12:18.040 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about that one. I’m just thinking… Okay, so I guess…
174 00:12:18.300 ⇒ 00:12:21.290 Samuel Roberts: The question then becomes, is it cool to just create a new project?
175 00:12:21.410 ⇒ 00:12:22.209 Samuel Roberts: Which, I’m sure.
176 00:12:22.210 ⇒ 00:12:23.160 Mustafa Raja: prefer.
177 00:12:23.160 ⇒ 00:12:25.400 Samuel Roberts: 10 bucks a month for this is probably fine.
178 00:12:25.650 ⇒ 00:12:26.170 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, okay.
179 00:12:26.170 ⇒ 00:12:31.209 Samuel Roberts: I want to double-check that. And then, yeah, that’s a whole other thing, is maybe cleaning up Superbase in general.
180 00:12:32.090 ⇒ 00:12:32.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
181 00:12:32.630 ⇒ 00:12:36.459 Samuel Roberts: The GitHub one’s just not even doing anything, there’s no reason to be paying for that.
182 00:12:37.690 ⇒ 00:12:39.049 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is broken.
183 00:12:39.560 ⇒ 00:12:43.009 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, definitely something we messed up. Real messed up.
184 00:12:43.410 ⇒ 00:12:47.290 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So yeah, I guess, I guess this is good then, right?
185 00:12:50.300 ⇒ 00:12:54.400 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so I’m just trying to see what we’re paying for here, yeah.
186 00:12:54.830 ⇒ 00:12:55.370 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay.
187 00:12:55.370 ⇒ 00:12:58.209 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, GitHub’s being charged, yeah, we’re gonna turn that one off, I bet.
188 00:13:03.990 ⇒ 00:13:04.740 Samuel Roberts: Intent.
189 00:13:10.930 ⇒ 00:13:15.250 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, because I think… I think if we want to… if we’re gonna be logging
190 00:13:15.540 ⇒ 00:13:20.269 Samuel Roberts: You know, any kind of metrics, too, we can be dumping it here, or pulling data from here.
191 00:13:20.480 ⇒ 00:13:20.970 Samuel Roberts: Maybe.
192 00:13:20.970 ⇒ 00:13:21.690 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
193 00:13:21.690 ⇒ 00:13:27.590 Samuel Roberts: So, I just don’t know exactly what that’s gonna look like, and so I’m trying to think that through, but I think you’re fine to probably just create a table that is…
194 00:13:27.730 ⇒ 00:13:38.620 Samuel Roberts: just basically… like, the Slack thread… the… current…
195 00:13:41.140 ⇒ 00:13:45.759 Samuel Roberts: the current deck. I’m trying to think, do we want to keep track of all the other decks, though? Like…
196 00:13:46.010 ⇒ 00:13:47.400 Samuel Roberts: As they change.
197 00:13:58.690 ⇒ 00:13:59.710 Samuel Roberts: I’ll try.
198 00:14:00.420 ⇒ 00:14:01.729 Samuel Roberts: That’s important to know.
199 00:14:04.450 ⇒ 00:14:05.120 Samuel Roberts: Oh.
200 00:14:05.270 ⇒ 00:14:06.210 Samuel Roberts: Can you hear me?
201 00:14:06.800 ⇒ 00:14:07.780 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
202 00:14:07.780 ⇒ 00:14:15.560 Samuel Roberts: Okay, sorry, my computer’s been laggy a little bit today, and I think it was just my… I moved Slack… I moved Zoom around, and it took a second to, like, move the whole window, and I was like, oh, shit.
203 00:14:15.560 ⇒ 00:14:16.779 Mustafa Raja: Oh, we’re good.
204 00:14:16.780 ⇒ 00:14:24.490 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, I would say let’s set up a new project, let’s… Can we…
205 00:14:24.980 ⇒ 00:14:29.600 Samuel Roberts: Are we gonna turn off the GitHub one without deleting it, or do you still pay for that one?
206 00:14:30.000 ⇒ 00:14:31.249 Samuel Roberts: I think.
207 00:14:31.250 ⇒ 00:14:33.560 Mustafa Raja: Then there should be a way to archive it, no?
208 00:14:34.010 ⇒ 00:14:35.200 Samuel Roberts: I would think so.
209 00:14:39.070 ⇒ 00:14:41.149 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it hasn’t been used at all.
210 00:14:43.190 ⇒ 00:14:47.049 Mustafa Raja: Hmm. I guess we can just let team know and…
211 00:14:47.050 ⇒ 00:14:51.539 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Let’s not worry about that. I think as long as we’re good to…
212 00:14:51.990 ⇒ 00:14:56.109 Samuel Roberts: Create a new one, which I’m sure we’re fine with, but I’ll just ping Tom and make sure.
213 00:14:57.030 ⇒ 00:14:58.010 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
214 00:14:58.520 ⇒ 00:15:09.870 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, I think… I think Superbase is the best way for now. If… if something… you know what I mean? Like, here’s the thing about some of this stuff. Yeah, Redis might be a technically faster choice, but if we’re gonna expand at all.
215 00:15:10.070 ⇒ 00:15:10.510 Samuel Roberts: Super basic.
216 00:15:10.510 ⇒ 00:15:13.119 Mustafa Raja: This gives us that, and this isn’t…
217 00:15:13.940 ⇒ 00:15:18.509 Samuel Roberts: Again, you don’t want to over-optimize things too much, because, like, this isn’t being built for
218 00:15:18.640 ⇒ 00:15:23.450 Samuel Roberts: millions of customers, it’s built for one customer, doing it a few times, so it’s not like it’.
219 00:15:23.450 ⇒ 00:15:24.470 Mustafa Raja: It’s scale.
220 00:15:24.640 ⇒ 00:15:26.889 Samuel Roberts: So I think we’re probably fine.
221 00:15:29.330 ⇒ 00:15:29.760 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
222 00:15:29.760 ⇒ 00:15:33.910 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say just set up a superbase, set up a… a table.
223 00:15:34.120 ⇒ 00:15:39.719 Samuel Roberts: And then do what you need to do to connect to that, store the Slack… The thread.
224 00:15:40.390 ⇒ 00:15:46.069 Samuel Roberts: And the current deck, I think that’s probably all we need to do for now, just to get the memory going.
225 00:15:46.460 ⇒ 00:15:49.500 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’ll just have to…
226 00:15:49.610 ⇒ 00:15:52.000 Mustafa Raja: Do a little bit of tweaking here, do a little.
227 00:15:52.000 ⇒ 00:15:52.460 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
228 00:15:52.460 ⇒ 00:15:54.799 Mustafa Raja: Clicking here, and we should be good.
229 00:15:55.640 ⇒ 00:15:59.800 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to think if we want to be doing anything else right now.
230 00:16:01.090 ⇒ 00:16:09.389 Mustafa Raja: I guess there was… let’s, let’s look at the ticket’s memory, and then the buttons.
231 00:16:09.740 ⇒ 00:16:11.140 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so I… maybe…
232 00:16:11.140 ⇒ 00:16:16.030 Mustafa Raja: buttons. For the buttons, what we’ll have to do is add another… rather than
233 00:16:16.700 ⇒ 00:16:25.289 Mustafa Raja: going this, like, going like this, I’ll have to add whatever it’s called. Let me think what it’s called.
234 00:16:25.890 ⇒ 00:16:28.039 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, a trigger, sorry.
235 00:16:28.330 ⇒ 00:16:28.870 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah.
236 00:16:28.870 ⇒ 00:16:33.090 Mustafa Raja: I have to do a trigger, and then, yeah, it goes.
237 00:16:33.580 ⇒ 00:16:34.230 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
238 00:16:34.340 ⇒ 00:16:35.690 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think I’d say go ahead.
239 00:16:35.690 ⇒ 00:16:36.480 Mustafa Raja: How about that?
240 00:16:36.950 ⇒ 00:16:41.420 Mustafa Raja: Obviously, then also remove this, because we don’t need this.
241 00:16:41.420 ⇒ 00:16:43.910 Samuel Roberts: Which, that’s to be, like…
242 00:16:43.910 ⇒ 00:16:50.829 Mustafa Raja: classifier that either approved or it’s a feedback, because everything else would then be a feedback, right?
243 00:16:51.940 ⇒ 00:16:55.530 Samuel Roberts: Yeah…
244 00:16:56.500 ⇒ 00:17:01.320 Samuel Roberts: I mean, I suppose you could leave the ability to say approved, but it doesn’t really matter too much.
245 00:17:01.320 ⇒ 00:17:04.470 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, we can, yeah, yeah, yeah, we can… Just feed something.
246 00:17:04.470 ⇒ 00:17:08.490 Samuel Roberts: Something else into that, yeah, like, just a separate trigger into the top there.
247 00:17:08.859 ⇒ 00:17:11.100 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, you can say, also.
248 00:17:11.099 ⇒ 00:17:15.219 Samuel Roberts: Or you can click the button. Exactly, yeah, who knows, some people might prefer to just stay at the keyboard.
249 00:17:15.220 ⇒ 00:17:16.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
250 00:17:18.480 ⇒ 00:17:22.810 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Yeah, is that good on that, then, for…
251 00:17:22.810 ⇒ 00:17:27.059 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, good on that, let’s talk about the next thing.
252 00:17:27.780 ⇒ 00:17:29.380 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
253 00:17:29.380 ⇒ 00:17:33.490 Mustafa Raja: What that was is… We did that, yeah.
254 00:17:33.490 ⇒ 00:17:34.300 Samuel Roberts: middleware between.
255 00:17:34.300 ⇒ 00:17:37.049 Mustafa Raja: So, middleware between this and this. Okay.
256 00:17:37.560 ⇒ 00:17:39.960 Mustafa Raja: So let me walk you through first.
257 00:17:40.960 ⇒ 00:17:43.429 Mustafa Raja: So we can understand what’s happening.
258 00:17:44.850 ⇒ 00:17:47.180 Mustafa Raja: We might actually only need this.
259 00:18:04.600 ⇒ 00:18:10.719 Mustafa Raja: Okay… Let’s do this table.
260 00:18:15.370 ⇒ 00:18:27.140 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so we can see that we are importing our, companies from Salesforce, and we have a way to do that. Let me actually show you that, how we are…
261 00:18:28.050 ⇒ 00:18:30.580 Mustafa Raja: Putting that… account.
262 00:18:35.800 ⇒ 00:18:52.429 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so let’s go to accounts… Let’s go to… Oilagones… And then… let’s go below… So… We have names…
263 00:18:53.070 ⇒ 00:18:53.730 Samuel Roberts: Nope.
264 00:18:53.730 ⇒ 00:18:58.150 Mustafa Raja: It’s… I still don’t like these ones.
265 00:18:58.720 ⇒ 00:19:00.269 Samuel Roberts: Oh, it’s gonna be all members and…
266 00:19:00.460 ⇒ 00:19:01.790 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s do this.
267 00:19:01.790 ⇒ 00:19:03.120 Samuel Roberts: Okay, perfect, yeah.
268 00:19:03.400 ⇒ 00:19:03.980 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
269 00:19:04.420 ⇒ 00:19:15.780 Mustafa Raja: So what we can do is, once we go into, what’s it called, into an account, what we can do is click this Enrichment Ready button.
270 00:19:15.980 ⇒ 00:19:16.790 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
271 00:19:16.790 ⇒ 00:19:26.210 Mustafa Raja: Okay? And what happens is, once we click it, what happens is it goes to this BrainForge accounts list.
272 00:19:26.210 ⇒ 00:19:26.560 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
273 00:19:26.560 ⇒ 00:19:41.949 Mustafa Raja: For now, it’s, it has about 550 accounts in it, that we added over time, that the, default people want to enrich. So, for now, we have about 550 accounts.
274 00:19:43.460 ⇒ 00:19:54.990 Mustafa Raja: And once… once an account is in this, list, the BrainForge list, this source that we have set up is listening.
275 00:19:55.100 ⇒ 00:19:59.420 Mustafa Raja: Maybe I would be able to…
276 00:20:00.290 ⇒ 00:20:16.990 Mustafa Raja: Continue… yeah, so we are listening to the object that is a count, and the list view that is bringing forge. So, we are listening to this, via this source, but… the problem is that we cannot listen to it
277 00:20:16.990 ⇒ 00:20:21.179 Mustafa Raja: More frequently than, a day.
278 00:20:21.820 ⇒ 00:20:22.600 Samuel Roberts: Mmm.
279 00:20:22.770 ⇒ 00:20:32.939 Mustafa Raja: And what, default people would want, is, to have… to have that account into play within an hour, at least.
280 00:20:34.070 ⇒ 00:20:34.740 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
281 00:20:35.150 ⇒ 00:20:49.929 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, currently it’s going to be, okay, let’s… we put an account into this list, we’ll have to wait, about 24 hours for this, for that account to be available in Clay.
282 00:20:50.630 ⇒ 00:20:54.530 Mustafa Raja: So, what we can do instead,
283 00:20:54.720 ⇒ 00:20:59.440 Mustafa Raja: And this is the tool that I would suggest. Is anything.
284 00:21:00.520 ⇒ 00:21:05.150 Mustafa Raja: And how we can do that, let me… Let me show you…
285 00:21:06.500 ⇒ 00:21:08.869 Mustafa Raja: To be honest, I haven’t really tried it.
286 00:21:08.870 ⇒ 00:21:09.420 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah.
287 00:21:09.420 ⇒ 00:21:12.790 Mustafa Raja: We were trying it together. Salesforce…
288 00:21:13.740 ⇒ 00:21:19.569 Mustafa Raja: On account… We can do updated, right? Because we are updating the account.
289 00:21:19.570 ⇒ 00:21:21.019 Samuel Roberts: Update in the field, yeah.
290 00:21:21.450 ⇒ 00:21:24.050 Mustafa Raja: Paul times every minute.
291 00:21:24.210 ⇒ 00:21:28.809 Mustafa Raja: This is going to run every minute this… hmm… you know, this isn’t going to…
292 00:21:28.810 ⇒ 00:21:32.949 Samuel Roberts: I mean, it could probably run every hour, because it’ll just catch them every 60 minutes.
293 00:21:33.400 ⇒ 00:21:48.150 Mustafa Raja: Hour, every hour. Okay, once I do that, we can see, okay, we can get, if an account is updated or not, every hour, and then what I can do is, go back to Clay…
294 00:21:48.540 ⇒ 00:21:53.610 Mustafa Raja: Add a new table… With a webhook.
295 00:21:54.210 ⇒ 00:21:54.920 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
296 00:21:56.390 ⇒ 00:21:58.640 Mustafa Raja: Where is the webhook?
297 00:22:02.140 ⇒ 00:22:03.150 Mustafa Raja: No, no.
298 00:22:10.040 ⇒ 00:22:16.029 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so this is going to give me a webhook that I can then push the account to.
299 00:22:16.660 ⇒ 00:22:22.900 Samuel Roberts: Perfect. Okay, yeah. And so then, with the Salesforce trigger, you’ll just have to see it was updated and make sure that the enrichment was checked.
300 00:22:23.840 ⇒ 00:22:28.380 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we’ll only see, okay, if the enrichment is checked or not.
301 00:22:28.610 ⇒ 00:22:41.550 Mustafa Raja: If it’s an account that says enrichment true, then I’ll just push the thing. The problem is that we have all these tables.
302 00:22:42.880 ⇒ 00:22:47.609 Mustafa Raja: And these tables are going to increase. It’s going to be about 50 or so, or even more.
303 00:22:47.610 ⇒ 00:22:48.290 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
304 00:22:48.290 ⇒ 00:22:51.060 Mustafa Raja: And each table will have its own webhook.
305 00:22:52.250 ⇒ 00:22:55.990 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, hold on. Let me understand. So, okay, so…
306 00:22:56.560 ⇒ 00:23:05.079 Samuel Roberts: I might have to back up a little bit here. So Salesforce, they’re obviously keeping track of everything. When they want it enriched, it’s being dumped into Clay.
307 00:23:05.890 ⇒ 00:23:11.170 Samuel Roberts: then it’s getting… what is the enrichment exactly happening here? Just give me one… show me one of these.
308 00:23:11.170 ⇒ 00:23:13.040 Mustafa Raja: Oh, there’s a lot of enrichment.
309 00:23:13.040 ⇒ 00:23:15.430 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I just want to understand one, because I don’t know this.
310 00:23:15.430 ⇒ 00:23:16.020 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
311 00:23:16.430 ⇒ 00:23:19.200 Mustafa Raja: one,
312 00:23:19.280 ⇒ 00:23:39.140 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let’s do sales team. Okay. So, what this is, an account comes, and then we, then we run, run that account to see how, how many, how many and which salespeople, are working over here. And for, for example, we have this,
313 00:23:39.140 ⇒ 00:23:53.910 Mustafa Raja: So this, this person, is a sales worker over here, this person is also a sales worker over here, and okay, we have the sales workers, then we have an AI step. What this AI step, is to see,
314 00:23:54.760 ⇒ 00:24:07.909 Mustafa Raja: If they are working… if the sales employees are spread across multiple time zones. If they are spread across more than 3 time zones, return true, else false.
315 00:24:08.610 ⇒ 00:24:09.479 Samuel Roberts: Got it, okay.
316 00:24:09.850 ⇒ 00:24:11.499 Mustafa Raja: So this is the enrichment.
317 00:24:12.720 ⇒ 00:24:18.500 Samuel Roberts: Okay, and so… Tables are the combos that we’ve been talking.
318 00:24:18.500 ⇒ 00:24:24.669 Mustafa Raja: Now, the tables were the combos, and now each table is one signal only.
319 00:24:25.530 ⇒ 00:24:29.060 Samuel Roberts: Oh… and that’s why they all have to be…
320 00:24:29.860 ⇒ 00:24:34.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so for each signal, we’ll have to have one webhook.
321 00:24:34.730 ⇒ 00:24:39.739 Mustafa Raja: There is going to be one problem that I will have to solve.
322 00:24:41.810 ⇒ 00:24:55.229 Mustafa Raja: So if I push a company over here, I guess I wouldn’t have to solve, because this might only return, new accounts. I’ll have to see how this trigger works, but…
323 00:24:55.970 ⇒ 00:24:58.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I’m overthinking it, sorry.
324 00:24:58.810 ⇒ 00:25:01.889 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, you’re good, you’re good. I’m trying to understand it too, so you’re fine.
325 00:25:01.890 ⇒ 00:25:02.870 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
326 00:25:03.670 ⇒ 00:25:08.990 Samuel Roberts: So… It’ll get added to… This new webhook table.
327 00:25:10.350 ⇒ 00:25:20.590 Mustafa Raja: No, no, no, they aren’t going to be added to this table. I’m going to replace this, this column with the webhook.
328 00:25:20.590 ⇒ 00:25:22.230 Samuel Roberts: I understand now, okay.
329 00:25:22.230 ⇒ 00:25:28.340 Mustafa Raja: Each signal will have, instead of this column, will have a webhook column.
330 00:25:29.330 ⇒ 00:25:31.709 Samuel Roberts: That’s a lot of tables to do.
331 00:25:32.350 ⇒ 00:25:33.090 Mustafa Raja: No.
332 00:25:33.600 ⇒ 00:25:41.759 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’ll be only problem, but I guess we’ll have to do that. I was already doing it for this one.
333 00:25:44.020 ⇒ 00:25:49.009 Mustafa Raja: Meaning, I was already doing it for, sales first column, right?
334 00:25:49.620 ⇒ 00:25:50.290 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
335 00:25:50.540 ⇒ 00:25:55.889 Samuel Roberts: Okay, okay, hold on. So, that column is the same for every table, though?
336 00:25:55.890 ⇒ 00:25:59.609 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That column is the same for every table.
337 00:25:59.750 ⇒ 00:26:01.140 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I’m wondering.
338 00:26:01.140 ⇒ 00:26:01.690 Mustafa Raja: I bet.
339 00:26:01.690 ⇒ 00:26:04.709 Samuel Roberts: They have a better way to do that bulk ending, maybe?
340 00:26:05.010 ⇒ 00:26:06.540 Samuel Roberts: Like, an API or something?
341 00:26:07.390 ⇒ 00:26:10.070 Mustafa Raja: Oh, Clay is very bad with APIs.
342 00:26:10.070 ⇒ 00:26:14.389 Samuel Roberts: Okay, that’s… that’s… that answered that question then, because I wasn’t really sure, I haven’t touched it too much, so…
343 00:26:14.390 ⇒ 00:26:15.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
344 00:26:17.640 ⇒ 00:26:22.550 Mustafa Raja: Okay. If Clear were any better with APIs, it would have eased my life a lot.
345 00:26:22.550 ⇒ 00:26:28.429 Samuel Roberts: That’s what it seems like. Yeah, I’m sorry, I didn’t really fully understand what was going on in Clay. Yeah. Yeah. I’ve been…
346 00:26:28.650 ⇒ 00:26:31.000 Samuel Roberts: A little disconnected from that. Okay.
347 00:26:31.400 ⇒ 00:26:32.280 Samuel Roberts: Huh.
348 00:26:32.480 ⇒ 00:26:34.360 Samuel Roberts: This just seems so inefficient.
349 00:26:34.860 ⇒ 00:26:35.300 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
350 00:26:39.500 ⇒ 00:26:40.420 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
351 00:26:43.700 ⇒ 00:26:46.149 Samuel Roberts: Huh. Alright. I’m just… I’m trying to…
352 00:26:46.440 ⇒ 00:26:53.250 Samuel Roberts: Without understanding enough, brainstorming in my little head here, trying to figure out… Like…
353 00:26:53.680 ⇒ 00:26:55.760 Samuel Roberts: So it doesn’t have a good API at all.
354 00:26:56.290 ⇒ 00:26:59.499 Mustafa Raja: Nope. I don’t think it has an API at all.
355 00:26:59.500 ⇒ 00:27:01.020 Samuel Roberts: That’s crazy.
356 00:27:01.220 ⇒ 00:27:04.219 Mustafa Raja: The only way we can communicate with it is this webhook.
357 00:27:09.150 ⇒ 00:27:12.440 Mustafa Raja: This is the only way we can communicate.
358 00:27:14.190 ⇒ 00:27:15.330 Samuel Roberts: Wow.
359 00:27:18.680 ⇒ 00:27:20.330 Samuel Roberts: Huh.
360 00:27:24.120 ⇒ 00:27:26.640 Mustafa Raja: Let’s actually search it. I did.
361 00:27:26.640 ⇒ 00:27:27.120 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
362 00:27:27.120 ⇒ 00:27:30.309 Mustafa Raja: Search, a while back.
363 00:27:30.820 ⇒ 00:27:34.149 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, see, this is the… what’s it called?
364 00:27:34.150 ⇒ 00:27:34.970 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I just saw that.
365 00:27:34.970 ⇒ 00:27:38.339 Mustafa Raja: What this is, is, a column that they are talking about.
366 00:27:38.340 ⇒ 00:27:39.879 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s what I saw.
367 00:27:39.880 ⇒ 00:27:46.100 Mustafa Raja: the HTTP API, where we can add… External sources to play.
368 00:27:46.100 ⇒ 00:27:47.259 Samuel Roberts: Right, that’s not helpful.
369 00:27:47.260 ⇒ 00:27:47.830 Mustafa Raja: meaning.
370 00:27:47.830 ⇒ 00:27:48.569 Samuel Roberts: And then…
371 00:27:49.010 ⇒ 00:27:50.019 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
372 00:27:50.330 ⇒ 00:27:53.329 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I get it. Oh, man, that’s nuts to me.
373 00:27:54.180 ⇒ 00:27:54.890 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
374 00:28:01.420 ⇒ 00:28:05.980 Mustafa Raja: I did search it, because we were doing some internal work.
375 00:28:05.980 ⇒ 00:28:06.570 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
376 00:28:06.570 ⇒ 00:28:14.020 Mustafa Raja: A few… few months back… Couldn’t find it, though.
377 00:28:14.680 ⇒ 00:28:16.670 Mustafa Raja: Clear native integrations.
378 00:28:17.240 ⇒ 00:28:18.840 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s what I was thinking here.
379 00:28:18.840 ⇒ 00:28:27.539 Mustafa Raja: lookup single row, yeah, this isn’t what we really need. What this is, is that, we can pull
380 00:28:28.290 ⇒ 00:28:29.810 Mustafa Raja: Data from here.
381 00:28:30.660 ⇒ 00:28:33.369 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I guess this is what we can do, though.
382 00:28:35.640 ⇒ 00:28:41.649 Mustafa Raja: Right? I can just pull… I can just, add accounts to this table.
383 00:28:42.000 ⇒ 00:28:45.780 Mustafa Raja: And have other tables listen to this table.
384 00:28:45.880 ⇒ 00:28:52.130 Mustafa Raja: But I don’t think they listen to this table. We’ll have to manually refresh.
385 00:28:54.780 ⇒ 00:28:55.700 Samuel Roberts: Really?
386 00:28:56.430 ⇒ 00:28:56.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
387 00:28:56.810 ⇒ 00:28:57.620 Samuel Roberts: Good news.
388 00:28:58.640 ⇒ 00:29:08.849 Mustafa Raja: Because I have it set up already, you see, and this is a lookup, VLOOKUP to another table, and this has to be manually refreshed, even though it’s linked
389 00:29:11.560 ⇒ 00:29:18.970 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, see, it knows that it’s linked, and if there are more rows than previously, they should
390 00:29:21.090 ⇒ 00:29:25.919 Mustafa Raja: Refresh this automatically, but… It is what it is.
391 00:29:26.960 ⇒ 00:29:30.850 Samuel Roberts: Wow, yeah, I’m so sorry, I had no idea that’s how bad that was, but…
392 00:29:31.610 ⇒ 00:29:39.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess there might be… I might be doing something wrong, because this is going to be a pain for a lot of people.
393 00:29:39.980 ⇒ 00:29:44.390 Mustafa Raja: So I might… maybe I need to look more into this, I guess.
394 00:29:45.270 ⇒ 00:29:53.690 Samuel Roberts: Yeah… from what I’m seeing, I just asked ChatGPT the same thing, just that I was googling, I thought maybe it would be able to find something, but it’s finding exactly what we just saw.
395 00:29:53.950 ⇒ 00:29:59.490 Samuel Roberts: You can send data with a webhook, you can’t edit anything from the API.
396 00:29:59.800 ⇒ 00:30:00.580 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
397 00:30:01.930 ⇒ 00:30:06.749 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and when I first found out about this, I was as surprised as you.
398 00:30:06.970 ⇒ 00:30:09.639 Mustafa Raja: Because in this age, it’s really…
399 00:30:09.640 ⇒ 00:30:14.909 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, especially for an app like this, like, it seems like it wants to be connected to things.
400 00:30:15.430 ⇒ 00:30:16.050 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
401 00:30:16.150 ⇒ 00:30:24.929 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but I think it makes sense, because this essentially is a tool for non-technical people.
402 00:30:25.100 ⇒ 00:30:34.100 Mustafa Raja: And their internal thinking is… maybe, would be that non-technical people aren’t going to use API anyways.
403 00:30:34.990 ⇒ 00:30:37.230 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I suppose that’s true, but…
404 00:30:37.640 ⇒ 00:30:42.639 Samuel Roberts: then I would think they’d have a more robust, like, way to make a lot of changes or something like that.
405 00:30:42.890 ⇒ 00:30:44.019 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
406 00:30:44.380 ⇒ 00:30:49.140 Samuel Roberts: But, okay, no, I think you’re on the right track with the webhook then. Seems like the only way to update it.
407 00:30:51.210 ⇒ 00:30:51.660 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
408 00:30:51.660 ⇒ 00:30:52.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
409 00:30:52.060 ⇒ 00:30:55.410 Mustafa Raja: So… so what I’m going to do is I’m going to just…
410 00:30:58.590 ⇒ 00:31:03.010 Mustafa Raja: pull the spike to internal review. Do we need a document?
411 00:31:03.940 ⇒ 00:31:07.050 Samuel Roberts: No, I would say just make a comment in it, it’s probably fine.
412 00:31:07.250 ⇒ 00:31:07.810 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
413 00:31:11.240 ⇒ 00:31:15.139 Mustafa Raja: N10 is going to be our middleware, because…
414 00:31:15.370 ⇒ 00:31:15.980 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
415 00:31:16.160 ⇒ 00:31:18.039 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let me know if I should write more.
416 00:31:18.080 ⇒ 00:31:19.799 Samuel Roberts: No, I think it’s… I think that’s fine.
417 00:31:19.800 ⇒ 00:31:26.190 Mustafa Raja: Biden is going to be the… Going to be the middleware.
418 00:31:27.410 ⇒ 00:31:28.010 Samuel Roberts: Now…
419 00:31:28.470 ⇒ 00:31:29.290 Mustafa Raja: Oh my gosh.
420 00:31:29.290 ⇒ 00:31:31.979 Samuel Roberts: Before we say this, let me just think this through one point.
421 00:31:32.270 ⇒ 00:31:32.590 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
422 00:31:32.590 ⇒ 00:31:37.430 Samuel Roberts: I don’t… how often is this going to be triggered, you think? This is great.
423 00:31:37.430 ⇒ 00:31:39.360 Mustafa Raja: intro good.
424 00:31:39.990 ⇒ 00:31:44.850 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, from the poise, pri- sorry, from the price point, yeah.
425 00:31:45.290 ⇒ 00:31:46.070 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
426 00:31:46.420 ⇒ 00:31:54.169 Mustafa Raja: No, this isn’t going to run every… this is on… this would trigger when it finds something is updated.
427 00:31:54.480 ⇒ 00:32:01.429 Mustafa Raja: Yes, okay. So I’m going to do is, every, every minute, and the only down…
428 00:32:03.990 ⇒ 00:32:06.800 Mustafa Raja: Let me see the… Hmm.
429 00:32:08.140 ⇒ 00:32:18.909 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so only downside I’m seeing over here is this. We only want to listen to the accounts that are added to this list, right?
430 00:32:19.410 ⇒ 00:32:20.600 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
431 00:32:20.600 ⇒ 00:32:28.430 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so any sort of update made to any account, it’s going to listen to that. So that’s going to cause a trigger.
432 00:32:31.070 ⇒ 00:32:35.419 Samuel Roberts: And there’s no… okay, I see in the URL there, it has filter name, but there’s no way to do that in the…
433 00:32:36.290 ⇒ 00:32:37.380 Mustafa Raja: And.
434 00:32:37.380 ⇒ 00:32:38.110 Samuel Roberts: heaven.
435 00:32:38.110 ⇒ 00:32:40.170 Mustafa Raja: Let’s actually see…
436 00:32:40.170 ⇒ 00:32:40.820 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
437 00:32:40.820 ⇒ 00:32:45.480 Mustafa Raja: While we are here, let’s see if… Hmm…
438 00:32:48.040 ⇒ 00:32:51.649 Mustafa Raja: Get an account, somebody… this, this, that.
439 00:32:53.720 ⇒ 00:32:55.080 Mustafa Raja: Bro, bro.
440 00:32:59.100 ⇒ 00:33:00.670 Mustafa Raja: Leader.
441 00:33:02.030 ⇒ 00:33:07.800 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, search… What?
442 00:33:09.050 ⇒ 00:33:10.150 Samuel Roberts: Oh, interesting.
443 00:33:11.090 ⇒ 00:33:11.700 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
444 00:33:32.190 ⇒ 00:33:40.780 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess… Hmm, yeah, let’s see triggers… what triggers are there? What triggers are there?
445 00:33:41.750 ⇒ 00:33:44.010 Mustafa Raja: One account this, unaccount that.
446 00:33:44.540 ⇒ 00:33:46.390 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we have the trigger too, right?
447 00:33:46.560 ⇒ 00:33:49.420 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, what is it? Yeah, that’s it. Okay.
448 00:33:49.620 ⇒ 00:33:55.440 Samuel Roberts: So yeah, I guess it is a count… when an account is updated, you’re gonna have to just filter it from there, but that’s still an execution, isn’t it?
449 00:33:55.790 ⇒ 00:34:00.219 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that is going to be an execution. Are we being charged by executions?
450 00:34:00.870 ⇒ 00:34:02.980 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s how they’ve changed it now.
451 00:34:06.450 ⇒ 00:34:08.880 Mustafa Raja: I think that is for enterprise only, no?
452 00:34:09.420 ⇒ 00:34:11.150 Samuel Roberts: So I’m checking.
453 00:34:12.870 ⇒ 00:34:15.569 Mustafa Raja: Is it not for only enterprise?
454 00:34:17.310 ⇒ 00:34:22.049 Samuel Roberts: No, I think they’ve changed it to just total execution, so you can have as many…
455 00:34:22.320 ⇒ 00:34:24.509 Samuel Roberts: Things, but you get charged for it.
456 00:34:24.510 ⇒ 00:34:25.260 Mustafa Raja: Question.
457 00:34:25.260 ⇒ 00:34:27.199 Samuel Roberts: I’ve short prosecution, but I can get billed.
458 00:34:27.639 ⇒ 00:34:28.720 Samuel Roberts: with a gap.
459 00:34:29.780 ⇒ 00:34:31.079 Mustafa Raja: We are on Pro.
460 00:34:31.949 ⇒ 00:34:32.769 Samuel Roberts: I think so.
461 00:34:34.050 ⇒ 00:34:36.450 Mustafa Raja: Or 10K executions per month.
462 00:34:36.889 ⇒ 00:34:37.389 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we’.
463 00:34:39.780 ⇒ 00:34:40.400 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
464 00:34:44.219 ⇒ 00:34:45.429 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…
465 00:34:45.429 ⇒ 00:34:46.879 Samuel Roberts: Now, here’s a question.
466 00:34:47.609 ⇒ 00:34:51.899 Samuel Roberts: Does Salesforce have a way to trigger something out of it?
467 00:34:52.109 ⇒ 00:34:57.189 Samuel Roberts: Like… When that box gets checked.
468 00:34:57.289 ⇒ 00:34:59.919 Samuel Roberts: Is there a way to trigger a webhook from that end?
469 00:35:01.680 ⇒ 00:35:02.110 Mustafa Raja: Nice.
470 00:35:02.110 ⇒ 00:35:02.799 Samuel Roberts: Cause then we could just…
471 00:35:03.010 ⇒ 00:35:04.490 Mustafa Raja: ChatGPT.
472 00:35:04.490 ⇒ 00:35:08.650 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly, yeah, because then we might not even need N8N if we can have that trigger…
473 00:35:09.680 ⇒ 00:35:14.039 Samuel Roberts: Something… well, actually, it could… We could still use NAN, maybe, to hit…
474 00:35:14.530 ⇒ 00:35:17.119 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yes, but, but.
475 00:35:17.120 ⇒ 00:35:17.730 Samuel Roberts: Pretty much frequently.
476 00:35:17.730 ⇒ 00:35:34.819 Mustafa Raja: But if it’s… but if there is a way we can narrow it down to only listen to the things… only listen to whether an account has been added to Brainforge list, that’s going to narrow it a lot.
477 00:35:34.820 ⇒ 00:35:47.170 Mustafa Raja: Because, obviously, default people are going to do a lot of things over here, and the main thing that they are working with is the accounts. So, this is going to be a big thing for them.
478 00:35:47.330 ⇒ 00:35:48.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
479 00:35:48.480 ⇒ 00:35:57.350 Mustafa Raja: So this is going to be a daily trigger for them. And we want to listen to only a very small fraction of those updates.
480 00:35:58.270 ⇒ 00:36:00.739 Mustafa Raja: So this is what we would be working with.
481 00:36:02.620 ⇒ 00:36:06.250 Mustafa Raja: Or we can do some other… Tool dense.
482 00:36:07.040 ⇒ 00:36:13.270 Mustafa Raja: more… Whatever. So what we were going to… ChatGPT? Oh, yeah.
483 00:36:13.270 ⇒ 00:36:13.720 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
484 00:36:14.030 ⇒ 00:36:17.130 Mustafa Raja: Can we trigger…
485 00:36:20.450 ⇒ 00:36:21.599 Mustafa Raja: a webhook.
486 00:36:23.120 ⇒ 00:36:25.250 Mustafa Raja: Wrong. Sales.
487 00:36:25.770 ⇒ 00:36:33.430 Mustafa Raja: scenes… What’s… Let me update… Anything…
488 00:36:33.430 ⇒ 00:36:35.089 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think I got it here, actually.
489 00:36:35.330 ⇒ 00:36:38.190 Samuel Roberts: I was doing the same thing you were just doing.
490 00:36:39.220 ⇒ 00:36:40.429 Mustafa Raja: You got it.
491 00:36:40.430 ⇒ 00:36:45.600 Samuel Roberts: It says, in Salesforce… here, let me, let me… share this, I guess.
492 00:36:45.600 ⇒ 00:36:48.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let me stop sharing.
493 00:36:48.540 ⇒ 00:36:51.269 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, you’re right, I’ll just say this.
494 00:36:52.510 ⇒ 00:36:56.040 Samuel Roberts: It sends…
495 00:36:59.170 ⇒ 00:37:07.070 Samuel Roberts: So… In Salesforce, it looks like you can record triggered flow on campaign member.
496 00:37:07.970 ⇒ 00:37:09.850 Samuel Roberts: Is that really… I’m not sure if that’s…
497 00:37:10.370 ⇒ 00:37:11.160 Samuel Roberts: We’re talking here.
498 00:37:11.160 ⇒ 00:37:14.979 Mustafa Raja: We want to do account, we want to do… we want to.
499 00:37:14.980 ⇒ 00:37:15.510 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
500 00:37:15.510 ⇒ 00:37:17.389 Mustafa Raja: An account, or some…
501 00:37:17.390 ⇒ 00:37:19.500 Samuel Roberts: Or it says our account, depending on how it was.
502 00:37:19.840 ⇒ 00:37:24.160 Mustafa Raja: Question is… Oh, yeah, yeah, this is what we need. Okay.
503 00:37:24.170 ⇒ 00:37:26.190 Samuel Roberts: Action HTTP callout, yeah.
504 00:37:27.270 ⇒ 00:37:27.780 Samuel Roberts: So, mainly.
505 00:37:27.780 ⇒ 00:37:33.040 Mustafa Raja: Oh, this is going to be good for us, then. Okay, yeah, I just don’t know where that is.
506 00:37:33.040 ⇒ 00:37:33.480 Samuel Roberts: didn’t sound.
507 00:37:33.480 ⇒ 00:37:38.540 Mustafa Raja: Everything can exempt the… what’s it called?
508 00:37:39.580 ⇒ 00:37:43.560 Mustafa Raja: Anytime though, right? Because then we can directly call in.
509 00:37:45.050 ⇒ 00:37:46.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think so.
510 00:37:46.120 ⇒ 00:37:48.110 Mustafa Raja: Clay webhook.
511 00:37:48.730 ⇒ 00:37:49.310 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
512 00:37:54.390 ⇒ 00:37:57.329 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think so. But then there’s another one here where you could add a…
513 00:37:57.850 ⇒ 00:38:00.129 Samuel Roberts: More stuff, but that would have to be…
514 00:38:03.420 ⇒ 00:38:07.350 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think… Yeah.
515 00:38:11.180 ⇒ 00:38:12.839 Mustafa Raja: Can we test this, though?
516 00:38:13.100 ⇒ 00:38:13.730 Mustafa Raja: Right now.
517 00:38:14.310 ⇒ 00:38:18.489 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I don’t know Salesforce very well yet.
518 00:38:18.490 ⇒ 00:38:19.260 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
519 00:38:19.960 ⇒ 00:38:22.950 Mustafa Raja: I can’t, I can work… Yeah, here. …work on that.
520 00:38:23.280 ⇒ 00:38:26.400 Mustafa Raja: Okay. So what does it say? How do we do this?
521 00:38:26.860 ⇒ 00:38:29.239 Samuel Roberts: Oh, sorry, yeah, I didn’t know that all the time.
522 00:38:30.940 ⇒ 00:38:33.370 Samuel Roberts: The question is… let’s see… oh, 29…
523 00:38:34.730 ⇒ 00:38:41.139 Samuel Roberts: So, in Salesforce, build a record-triggered flow That’s what we gotta find.
524 00:38:44.500 ⇒ 00:38:48.520 Mustafa Raja: Record trigger flow. Build a record trigger flow. Okay.
525 00:38:48.680 ⇒ 00:38:50.830 Mustafa Raja: How do we build a reputable?
526 00:38:50.830 ⇒ 00:38:58.759 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly, I’m just… I just googled it here, I don’t… Salesforce has so much stuff.
527 00:38:59.170 ⇒ 00:39:01.040 Samuel Roberts: New flow menu?
528 00:39:02.810 ⇒ 00:39:03.450 Samuel Roberts: This is…
529 00:39:03.450 ⇒ 00:39:05.460 Mustafa Raja: So where is the new flow menu?
530 00:39:05.460 ⇒ 00:39:06.529 Samuel Roberts: I know, I know.
531 00:39:06.530 ⇒ 00:39:06.940 Mustafa Raja: Let’s see what.
532 00:39:06.940 ⇒ 00:39:08.110 Samuel Roberts: I can find Harry.
533 00:39:08.110 ⇒ 00:39:12.700 Mustafa Raja: Let’s do… Hmm. Okay…
534 00:39:13.040 ⇒ 00:39:15.460 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, here, why don’t you share your screen as well?
535 00:39:15.460 ⇒ 00:39:20.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let me go back to Zoom.
536 00:39:21.390 ⇒ 00:39:22.419 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this one.
537 00:39:22.420 ⇒ 00:39:23.110 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
538 00:39:25.840 ⇒ 00:39:27.419 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m sharing my screen.
539 00:39:27.660 ⇒ 00:39:31.420 Samuel Roberts: Okay, let me jump over to… I’ll just stop here.
540 00:39:31.860 ⇒ 00:39:35.820 Mustafa Raja: Okay, decide the vendor should flow.
541 00:39:35.820 ⇒ 00:39:37.159 Samuel Roberts: Oh, yeah, you got it too, okay.
542 00:39:37.510 ⇒ 00:39:39.990 Mustafa Raja: Can fire on creating.
543 00:39:41.610 ⇒ 00:39:44.520 Mustafa Raja: Set up search flows, new flow, okay.
544 00:39:45.220 ⇒ 00:39:50.700 Mustafa Raja: Syntop… Snow… News.
545 00:39:59.680 ⇒ 00:40:00.400 Mustafa Raja: Bro.
546 00:40:02.150 ⇒ 00:40:02.850 Mustafa Raja: Filter.
547 00:40:02.850 ⇒ 00:40:04.710 Samuel Roberts: Blood triggers… oh, interesting.
548 00:40:07.630 ⇒ 00:40:09.019 Mustafa Raja: A new photo, right?
549 00:40:09.050 ⇒ 00:40:10.310 Samuel Roberts: Oof. Yeah.
550 00:40:11.040 ⇒ 00:40:12.979 Mustafa Raja: Is it new flow? New flow.
551 00:40:13.810 ⇒ 00:40:17.799 Mustafa Raja: Oh, they have already, it seems for people already are doing this.
552 00:40:18.030 ⇒ 00:40:19.230 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, looks like it.
553 00:40:21.020 ⇒ 00:40:23.200 Samuel Roberts: Probably record triggered down frequently use, yeah.
554 00:40:28.120 ⇒ 00:40:32.570 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah.
555 00:40:33.440 ⇒ 00:40:34.160 Mustafa Raja: I don’t.
556 00:40:35.860 ⇒ 00:40:36.750 Mustafa Raja: updated.
557 00:40:41.060 ⇒ 00:40:42.740 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, all conditions…
558 00:40:43.050 ⇒ 00:40:43.720 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
559 00:40:43.720 ⇒ 00:40:49.060 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so… enrichment… H.
560 00:40:49.670 ⇒ 00:40:54.970 Mustafa Raja: Man ready equals true. Oh, ho, this is going to be…
561 00:40:55.160 ⇒ 00:40:58.150 Samuel Roberts: Perfect, I hope this works. Yeah.
562 00:40:58.660 ⇒ 00:41:07.290 Mustafa Raja: When to run… Every time a record is updated, meets a record only when a record is made.
563 00:41:08.650 ⇒ 00:41:12.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, update to only win. No, I think you… I think you only… I think you want only when.
564 00:41:12.870 ⇒ 00:41:19.450 Samuel Roberts: Because… if it’s cha… if something else has changed, while it’s true, it’ll run again. So actually, maybe I…
565 00:41:19.450 ⇒ 00:41:20.920 Mustafa Raja: Whoa!
566 00:41:21.580 ⇒ 00:41:25.060 Mustafa Raja: Like, if they changed the name or something, but it’s still checked as.
567 00:41:25.060 ⇒ 00:41:25.630 Samuel Roberts: True.
568 00:41:25.990 ⇒ 00:41:32.849 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, so, so this is, when this is, this is, this is updated, and this is equal to true.
569 00:41:33.010 ⇒ 00:41:35.469 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so I think when it’s updated to be true, basically.
570 00:41:35.830 ⇒ 00:41:38.879 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, this is… this is the right thing to do.
571 00:41:38.880 ⇒ 00:41:39.250 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
572 00:41:39.250 ⇒ 00:41:41.799 Mustafa Raja: Okay, optimize the flow…
573 00:41:45.010 ⇒ 00:41:47.059 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, do we… what do we need?
574 00:41:48.250 ⇒ 00:41:55.439 Samuel Roberts: Update any record… I think it’s probably after. I don’t see why we need fast update.
575 00:41:57.050 ⇒ 00:42:01.200 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s fine, and then… That external call-out.
576 00:42:02.910 ⇒ 00:42:04.170 Mustafa Raja: Where’s that sound?
577 00:42:06.450 ⇒ 00:42:07.730 Samuel Roberts: I think you want to check that.
578 00:42:10.290 ⇒ 00:42:16.840 Samuel Roberts: Or maybe not. It just says it needs required, but… Alright.
579 00:42:18.200 ⇒ 00:42:20.130 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, click the next thing and see what we can do.
580 00:42:20.600 ⇒ 00:42:26.450 Samuel Roberts: They’re, yeah. Oh, in the end of the action, it might be…
581 00:42:27.540 ⇒ 00:42:29.279 Mustafa Raja: Oh, it might not be here.
582 00:42:29.280 ⇒ 00:42:31.920 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think that’s probably an action within Salesforce.
583 00:42:31.920 ⇒ 00:42:36.499 Mustafa Raja: Let me, let me see what Chang JPD says about this. Yeah. Tricker, trick, -oh.
584 00:42:37.630 ⇒ 00:42:39.200 Mustafa Raja: Trigger…
585 00:42:42.230 ⇒ 00:42:48.790 Mustafa Raja: As Findor… Decision… We have decided, though, right?
586 00:42:49.000 ⇒ 00:42:50.120 Mustafa Raja: So we don’t need this…
587 00:42:50.120 ⇒ 00:42:51.650 Samuel Roberts: And… no…
588 00:42:52.000 ⇒ 00:42:53.149 Mustafa Raja: No, no.
589 00:42:53.380 ⇒ 00:42:55.890 Samuel Roberts: Well, that’s the guy at the flow elements and says…
590 00:42:56.030 ⇒ 00:43:00.970 Samuel Roberts: So we gotta add the action, send email alerts, post to Slack chat.
591 00:43:00.970 ⇒ 00:43:01.250 Mustafa Raja: Oh.
592 00:43:02.040 ⇒ 00:43:08.899 Samuel Roberts: So yeah, so let’s go here, let me see what it said on mine here. It said, add action HTTP callout, so there should be something there.
593 00:43:09.730 ⇒ 00:43:11.530 Mustafa Raja: Http.
594 00:43:11.810 ⇒ 00:43:12.340 Samuel Roberts: Yep.
595 00:43:13.070 ⇒ 00:43:15.599 Samuel Roberts: Okay, maybe that is the asynchronous one, then.
596 00:43:17.140 ⇒ 00:43:17.920 Mustafa Raja: Oh.
597 00:43:18.340 ⇒ 00:43:23.480 Samuel Roberts: Maybe that’s why I said a callout was something else. So yeah, here, let’s…
598 00:43:24.020 ⇒ 00:43:28.950 Samuel Roberts: So, yeah, I would say, yeah, down… Yeah, mark that.
599 00:43:29.050 ⇒ 00:43:30.940 Samuel Roberts: And then see what that one does.
600 00:43:32.300 ⇒ 00:43:36.910 Samuel Roberts: Actually, just type search there, does it… create records or something? No, it’s gotta be an action, okay.
601 00:43:38.000 ⇒ 00:43:41.380 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, try action again, and see if there’s a different one here.
602 00:43:42.250 ⇒ 00:43:45.190 Samuel Roberts: HTTP? No? Okay.
603 00:43:46.540 ⇒ 00:43:48.429 Samuel Roberts: HTTP caller.
604 00:43:49.740 ⇒ 00:43:50.280 Mustafa Raja: Call out?
605 00:43:50.550 ⇒ 00:43:51.979 Samuel Roberts: Try call-out, yeah.
606 00:43:53.150 ⇒ 00:43:54.940 Samuel Roberts: Oh, try webhook, maybe?
607 00:43:56.140 ⇒ 00:43:56.730 Mustafa Raja: Nope.
608 00:43:57.270 ⇒ 00:43:58.290 Samuel Roberts: Hmm, okay.
609 00:44:01.210 ⇒ 00:44:07.299 Samuel Roberts: Action, it should be called out post. That’s weird.
610 00:44:32.220 ⇒ 00:44:34.609 Samuel Roberts: The 8 aces become, yeah, I don’t know.
611 00:44:34.740 ⇒ 00:44:36.920 Samuel Roberts: That’d be somewhere. Send it.
612 00:44:37.720 ⇒ 00:44:40.220 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, unless it works as AI making it up.
613 00:44:40.410 ⇒ 00:44:44.770 Mustafa Raja: You need to create an external service in the setup first.
614 00:44:45.030 ⇒ 00:44:46.880 Samuel Roberts: Good catch.
615 00:44:48.530 ⇒ 00:44:50.740 Mustafa Raja: So, set up, and… Nope.
616 00:45:01.120 ⇒ 00:45:05.140 Mustafa Raja: What it is, is external service, HTTP.
617 00:45:08.150 ⇒ 00:45:10.910 Mustafa Raja: Let’s actually search external…
618 00:45:17.370 ⇒ 00:45:18.060 Mustafa Raja: Nope.
619 00:45:18.970 ⇒ 00:45:23.970 Mustafa Raja: Okay, external…
620 00:45:28.140 ⇒ 00:45:29.400 Mustafa Raja: Excellent service.
621 00:45:29.400 ⇒ 00:45:30.720 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, something that’s convenient.
622 00:45:39.520 ⇒ 00:45:41.050 Samuel Roberts: Interesting, man.
623 00:45:45.330 ⇒ 00:45:49.299 Mustafa Raja: Do you think this is something like, the executions?
624 00:45:50.880 ⇒ 00:45:51.830 Samuel Roberts: Might be.
625 00:45:54.170 ⇒ 00:45:56.959 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… do you want to add? Hmm…
626 00:45:57.960 ⇒ 00:45:59.950 Samuel Roberts: Just, let’s open that up and see what it looks like.
627 00:46:01.340 ⇒ 00:46:03.170 Samuel Roberts: Make sure this is the right place before.
628 00:46:10.000 ⇒ 00:46:10.870 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
629 00:46:11.220 ⇒ 00:46:12.759 Mustafa Raja: We need this, I guess.
630 00:46:13.790 ⇒ 00:46:17.550 Samuel Roberts: You may want to send a message, then.
631 00:46:17.890 ⇒ 00:46:21.920 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… Provide registration.
632 00:46:32.450 ⇒ 00:46:33.070 Samuel Roberts: Hmm.
633 00:46:36.360 ⇒ 00:46:44.470 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think… I think we could set the absolute URL to be… that… Yeah, okay.
634 00:46:46.390 ⇒ 00:46:50.879 Mustafa Raja: URL, we can do… Oh, actually, PF Clay…
635 00:46:51.570 ⇒ 00:46:52.280 Samuel Roberts: Diana.
636 00:46:52.680 ⇒ 00:46:57.029 Mustafa Raja: Underscore? Nope. Only alphanumeric. Okay.
637 00:47:01.030 ⇒ 00:47:01.480 Samuel Roberts: Make a difference.
638 00:47:01.480 ⇒ 00:47:02.580 Mustafa Raja: PF only.
639 00:47:02.780 ⇒ 00:47:04.040 Mustafa Raja: That’s fine.
640 00:47:06.340 ⇒ 00:47:10.320 Mustafa Raja: That’s typically only… we’re testing it already, right?
641 00:47:10.320 ⇒ 00:47:11.560 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s fine.
642 00:47:17.740 ⇒ 00:47:19.470 Mustafa Raja: It was scoping.
643 00:47:22.770 ⇒ 00:47:23.720 Mustafa Raja: We use it.
644 00:47:26.230 ⇒ 00:47:29.439 Samuel Roberts: And I think you want to make it, absolute URL, not relative.
645 00:47:35.920 ⇒ 00:47:39.239 Samuel Roberts: Remote site settings, oh my goodness, okay.
646 00:47:39.440 ⇒ 00:47:40.950 Samuel Roberts: What does that mean?
647 00:47:41.530 ⇒ 00:47:44.670 Mustafa Raja: Also, we do… we have to set a… set this.
648 00:47:44.670 ⇒ 00:47:45.370 Samuel Roberts: Oh, no.
649 00:47:45.370 ⇒ 00:47:46.699 Mustafa Raja: Somewhere else, too.
650 00:47:47.090 ⇒ 00:47:48.190 Samuel Roberts: There’s nothing there.
651 00:47:48.480 ⇒ 00:47:53.589 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is… there’s nothing… this is a big, long setup.
652 00:47:53.590 ⇒ 00:47:55.989 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, but I think it’ll work if we get it, so…
653 00:47:55.990 ⇒ 00:48:00.719 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, what I would want to confirm is…
654 00:48:01.460 ⇒ 00:48:09.149 Mustafa Raja: Only that this isn’t something like the number of executions we can do over time.
655 00:48:09.350 ⇒ 00:48:11.950 Mustafa Raja: So let’s confirm it via ChatGPT.
656 00:48:17.300 ⇒ 00:48:18.599 Mustafa Raja: does wonders.
657 00:48:19.190 ⇒ 00:48:19.840 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
658 00:48:20.520 ⇒ 00:48:33.470 Mustafa Raja: Okay… Expenses… Is it not… is this… Light number… Wolf.
659 00:48:33.570 ⇒ 00:48:44.260 Mustafa Raja: Trickers… On the surface… slow this… Excellent service.
660 00:48:46.120 ⇒ 00:48:47.169 Mustafa Raja: Want to know…
661 00:48:50.610 ⇒ 00:49:00.030 Mustafa Raja: No, no, if… Who’s… How’s it for your account?
662 00:49:13.750 ⇒ 00:49:14.540 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
663 00:49:15.000 ⇒ 00:49:20.010 Samuel Roberts: Oh, they’re active operations versus inactive operations? Okay. Yeah.
664 00:49:24.150 ⇒ 00:49:26.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I don’t think that’s… well…
665 00:49:28.760 ⇒ 00:49:30.690 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think it’s fine. I don’t think it’s actually.
666 00:49:30.690 ⇒ 00:49:32.300 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we’re fine.
667 00:49:32.760 ⇒ 00:49:34.660 Mustafa Raja: This isn’t execution key.
668 00:49:34.660 ⇒ 00:49:35.910 Samuel Roberts: No, I think we’re good.
669 00:49:36.590 ⇒ 00:49:37.250 Mustafa Raja: Yep.
670 00:49:38.280 ⇒ 00:49:44.640 Mustafa Raja: I guess, to register, we just then need to go ahead…
671 00:49:45.510 ⇒ 00:49:51.019 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say, definitely, maybe grab some screencaps and… Explain what we’re doing.
672 00:49:52.200 ⇒ 00:49:57.689 Samuel Roberts: And then… Well, what did it say we needed to do? We needed to register something?
673 00:49:58.200 ⇒ 00:50:04.459 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we need to register an external service. Yeah, but when you put the URL in, what was that thing that popped up?
674 00:50:05.680 ⇒ 00:50:07.370 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yes, yes.
675 00:50:08.500 ⇒ 00:50:09.859 Samuel Roberts: So we know that term.
676 00:50:11.730 ⇒ 00:50:13.859 Mustafa Raja: Go over here, copy this.
677 00:50:14.720 ⇒ 00:50:15.420 Mustafa Raja: Cool.
678 00:50:15.800 ⇒ 00:50:17.160 Mustafa Raja: point here…
679 00:50:20.220 ⇒ 00:50:25.220 Mustafa Raja: Absolute schema URL must be added in remote site settings.
680 00:50:25.460 ⇒ 00:50:26.150 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
681 00:50:26.150 ⇒ 00:50:28.440 Mustafa Raja: So we have to set that up, and then we have
682 00:50:28.860 ⇒ 00:50:30.930 Mustafa Raja: this up somewhere, I don’t know where…
683 00:50:30.930 ⇒ 00:50:31.460 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
684 00:50:31.730 ⇒ 00:50:36.130 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Do you feel like you have enough information to send a message and let them know
685 00:50:36.280 ⇒ 00:50:37.149 Samuel Roberts: You think this’ll work?
686 00:50:37.150 ⇒ 00:50:41.340 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I can, I just don’t know what, what’s next.
687 00:50:41.740 ⇒ 00:50:43.410 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say…
688 00:50:43.410 ⇒ 00:50:44.170 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
689 00:50:47.350 ⇒ 00:50:57.049 Samuel Roberts: To just explain, we think we have a solution to do it to trigger more often. It’s going to involve running an external, or using an external service in Salesforce.
690 00:50:57.320 ⇒ 00:51:01.699 Samuel Roberts: We think we know how to do it, we have the webhook set up in Clay.
691 00:51:01.910 ⇒ 00:51:09.810 Samuel Roberts: But we need to… That, whatever the error there says. And then also…
692 00:51:10.320 ⇒ 00:51:13.929 Samuel Roberts: a named credential. I don’t know what that means, but…
693 00:51:14.860 ⇒ 00:51:21.159 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I think what it is, is the… Authentication thing, no?
694 00:51:21.800 ⇒ 00:51:23.430 Samuel Roberts: Is there authentication here, though?
695 00:51:24.200 ⇒ 00:51:28.080 Mustafa Raja: I think that this one… no, no, for this, no.
696 00:51:28.250 ⇒ 00:51:31.620 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, we can add, we can add also token, but…
697 00:51:31.620 ⇒ 00:51:33.120 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think we need to.
698 00:51:33.880 ⇒ 00:51:35.389 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, I don’t think so either.
699 00:51:36.970 ⇒ 00:51:37.940 Samuel Roberts: Like, we could have as needed.
700 00:51:37.940 ⇒ 00:51:43.240 Mustafa Raja: We can create token, but we really don’t need any named credentials, to be honest.
701 00:51:43.510 ⇒ 00:51:50.059 Mustafa Raja: So if this was optional to add or not, that would have been a difference maker.
702 00:51:50.060 ⇒ 00:51:54.260 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, what is… let me… Winning.
703 00:51:56.320 ⇒ 00:51:58.910 Samuel Roberts: It does say to use name credentials optional in my…
704 00:51:59.590 ⇒ 00:52:01.310 Mustafa Raja: Oh, no, but it…
705 00:52:01.310 ⇒ 00:52:04.060 Samuel Roberts: It’s in ChatGPT, so I’m gonna tell it it’s not optional.
706 00:52:04.060 ⇒ 00:52:05.300 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
707 00:52:05.300 ⇒ 00:52:06.460 Samuel Roberts: Let’s see what it says.
708 00:52:07.440 ⇒ 00:52:09.379 Mustafa Raja: I thought we had a solution over there.
709 00:52:09.480 ⇒ 00:52:11.210 Samuel Roberts: No, no, I just wanna make sure.
710 00:52:12.470 ⇒ 00:52:13.180 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
711 00:52:18.710 ⇒ 00:52:22.010 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, maybe you can… you can make a no-authentication named credential.
712 00:52:23.710 ⇒ 00:52:27.379 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll have to… I just don’t know where do I need to do that.
713 00:52:27.380 ⇒ 00:52:32.090 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, setup and name credentials, it says, so it’s probably somewhere here.
714 00:52:32.800 ⇒ 00:52:35.430 Mustafa Raja: Named… Yeah.
715 00:52:35.990 ⇒ 00:52:38.790 Samuel Roberts: And let’s actually look into this. Yeah.
716 00:52:40.380 ⇒ 00:52:46.320 Mustafa Raja: Because if it’s something that we cannot do, then… What is this?
717 00:52:47.450 ⇒ 00:52:51.869 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, no, let’s do it. Okay, so name, we’ll call it, or label, we’ll call it Clay.
718 00:52:52.490 ⇒ 00:52:55.230 Samuel Roberts: What the hell is external credential?
719 00:52:57.050 ⇒ 00:52:58.980 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s fine. Play Clay.
720 00:52:58.980 ⇒ 00:53:01.019 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this…
721 00:53:01.630 ⇒ 00:53:02.180 Samuel Roberts: External.
722 00:53:02.180 ⇒ 00:53:02.540 Mustafa Raja: This isn’t.
723 00:53:02.540 ⇒ 00:53:03.440 Samuel Roberts: Rachel?
724 00:53:03.440 ⇒ 00:53:06.000 Mustafa Raja: This isn’t doing, this isn’t popping up.
725 00:53:08.420 ⇒ 00:53:09.860 Samuel Roberts: Weird. Okay, what is…
726 00:53:10.350 ⇒ 00:53:12.540 Mustafa Raja: What is client certificate?
727 00:53:13.780 ⇒ 00:53:15.980 Mustafa Raja: We really don’t need this, though. This isn’t…
728 00:53:15.980 ⇒ 00:53:18.350 Samuel Roberts: No, we just needed to…
729 00:53:20.370 ⇒ 00:53:21.399 Mustafa Raja: What is this?
730 00:53:21.570 ⇒ 00:53:22.920 Mustafa Raja: We only need this.
731 00:53:23.350 ⇒ 00:53:24.999 Mustafa Raja: Jordan, you can say…
732 00:53:25.640 ⇒ 00:53:27.850 Samuel Roberts: Is that, yeah. That’s good.
733 00:53:28.540 ⇒ 00:53:31.059 Mustafa Raja: Go over here, ear, yes.
734 00:53:32.230 ⇒ 00:53:32.630 Mustafa Raja: It says…
735 00:53:32.630 ⇒ 00:53:34.760 Samuel Roberts: External credential?
736 00:53:36.050 ⇒ 00:53:36.850 Mustafa Raja: None.
737 00:53:37.570 ⇒ 00:53:41.109 Samuel Roberts: Unclick generate authorization header, does that do anything down here?
738 00:53:42.180 ⇒ 00:53:42.600 Mustafa Raja: Okay?
739 00:53:42.600 ⇒ 00:53:43.030 Samuel Roberts: in here.
740 00:53:43.030 ⇒ 00:53:45.859 Mustafa Raja: what… Oh, yeah.
741 00:53:46.050 ⇒ 00:53:48.360 Samuel Roberts: I was hoping that would remove that, but I don’t think it…
742 00:53:50.690 ⇒ 00:53:52.829 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, external credential, let’s look that up.
743 00:53:55.040 ⇒ 00:53:56.730 Mustafa Raja: Allow formulas, no.
744 00:53:57.400 ⇒ 00:54:04.709 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and this is… this seems like a pop-up, and it is not popping up, so I believe that this is something.
745 00:54:04.710 ⇒ 00:54:06.590 Samuel Roberts: We have to further set up.
746 00:54:07.260 ⇒ 00:54:08.199 Mustafa Raja: So, let’s see…
747 00:54:08.200 ⇒ 00:54:12.530 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m looking at it now. Okay, yeah, set up external credential. How do I remove these things?
748 00:54:13.300 ⇒ 00:54:16.070 Mustafa Raja: Which one? Oh, this? Yeah, it’s okay.
749 00:54:16.230 ⇒ 00:54:17.890 Samuel Roberts: There we go, I got it, I got it, okay.
750 00:54:19.380 ⇒ 00:54:22.310 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, alright, so maybe now go over to…
751 00:54:22.620 ⇒ 00:54:26.649 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the external credentials isn’t popping up anything.
752 00:54:26.650 ⇒ 00:54:27.540 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think you gotta go.
753 00:54:27.540 ⇒ 00:54:27.990 Mustafa Raja: practice exams.
754 00:54:28.680 ⇒ 00:54:31.480 Samuel Roberts: I think go back to setup and search external credential.
755 00:54:31.480 ⇒ 00:54:34.560 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, it’s inside of… I’m actually… I’m searching it in.
756 00:54:34.560 ⇒ 00:54:37.170 Samuel Roberts: Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize I was… I still had my thing up in front of it.
757 00:54:38.010 ⇒ 00:54:38.719 Samuel Roberts: And all…
758 00:54:41.880 ⇒ 00:54:42.870 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…
759 00:54:43.030 ⇒ 00:54:43.810 Samuel Roberts: Alright, click.
760 00:54:43.950 ⇒ 00:54:47.360 Mustafa Raja: Maybe… some sort of… No, no, no.
761 00:54:47.450 ⇒ 00:54:49.210 Samuel Roberts: That’s what you’re wearing.
762 00:54:49.500 ⇒ 00:54:51.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it’s not that.
763 00:54:52.760 ⇒ 00:54:59.560 Mustafa Raja: External objects, or data sources, maybe? Let’s see. Maybe we’ll find it somewhere. Nope.
764 00:54:59.560 ⇒ 00:55:00.480 Samuel Roberts: Yeah…
765 00:55:01.060 ⇒ 00:55:02.010 Mustafa Raja: Thanks.
766 00:55:03.180 ⇒ 00:55:05.220 Mustafa Raja: I don’t want to create any…
767 00:55:05.510 ⇒ 00:55:08.899 Samuel Roberts: No, I would say maybe let’s, send them a
768 00:55:09.310 ⇒ 00:55:11.970 Samuel Roberts: Someone must manage their sales force, right?
769 00:55:13.380 ⇒ 00:55:17.330 Mustafa Raja: Yes, I’ll just first quickly ask.
770 00:55:17.330 ⇒ 00:55:17.990 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah.
771 00:55:18.320 ⇒ 00:55:21.790 Mustafa Raja: What’s this… In seeds.
772 00:55:22.200 ⇒ 00:55:23.010 Mustafa Raja: Of course.
773 00:55:23.340 ⇒ 00:55:24.300 Mustafa Raja: None.
774 00:55:25.560 ⇒ 00:55:26.350 Mustafa Raja: Bing up.
775 00:55:29.690 ⇒ 00:55:32.270 Mustafa Raja: And, cool.
776 00:55:33.190 ⇒ 00:55:35.660 Mustafa Raja: What’s it, name credential?
777 00:55:39.270 ⇒ 00:55:40.950 Mustafa Raja: credential…
778 00:55:56.140 ⇒ 00:56:01.050 Mustafa Raja: Okay, Salesforce, directly… model…
779 00:56:02.530 ⇒ 00:56:03.509 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I have an idea.
780 00:56:04.540 ⇒ 00:56:08.080 Samuel Roberts: Just type credential into that search, and see what it shows.
781 00:56:16.190 ⇒ 00:56:17.359 Mustafa Raja: It’s only named.
782 00:56:18.110 ⇒ 00:56:19.000 Samuel Roberts: Huh, okay.
783 00:56:19.000 ⇒ 00:56:23.329 Mustafa Raja: what was this saying? Setup, bro, there is no… no…
784 00:56:23.330 ⇒ 00:56:23.760 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
785 00:56:23.760 ⇒ 00:56:24.640 Mustafa Raja: movie.
786 00:56:25.120 ⇒ 00:56:29.090 Samuel Roberts: My chat GPT said that it’s an old version.
787 00:56:29.770 ⇒ 00:56:34.159 Samuel Roberts: My ChatGPT thing is the new version. Oh my god.
788 00:56:37.210 ⇒ 00:56:40.359 Mustafa Raja: Our ChatGPTs are clashing!
789 00:56:40.730 ⇒ 00:56:42.990 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, exactly. Oh, sorry.
790 00:56:48.270 ⇒ 00:56:51.419 Mustafa Raja: Oh, hmm… nope.
791 00:56:55.970 ⇒ 00:56:56.790 Mustafa Raja: Oof.
792 00:56:57.310 ⇒ 00:57:01.070 Mustafa Raja: Find external principal axis, add your this.
793 00:57:03.720 ⇒ 00:57:04.600 Mustafa Raja: No.
794 00:57:06.900 ⇒ 00:57:07.920 Samuel Roberts: Oh, hold on.
795 00:57:08.290 ⇒ 00:57:09.980 Samuel Roberts: There’s also Apex.
796 00:57:14.120 ⇒ 00:57:15.279 Mustafa Raja: We can do epics.
797 00:57:15.880 ⇒ 00:57:16.779 Samuel Roberts: Do you know that?
798 00:57:18.750 ⇒ 00:57:22.319 Mustafa Raja: I think it’s the… it’s a Java… Java… JS…
799 00:57:22.690 ⇒ 00:57:24.669 Samuel Roberts: Well, what’s it called?
800 00:57:24.790 ⇒ 00:57:28.569 Samuel Roberts: Java Lite, it says here, but it runs on Salesforce, so I don’t know…
801 00:57:28.680 ⇒ 00:57:33.569 Samuel Roberts: there’s a way to trigger that. It gave me some code here, but… I don’t know…
802 00:57:38.020 ⇒ 00:57:38.950 Mustafa Raja: That’s a diff…
803 00:57:39.550 ⇒ 00:57:41.120 Samuel Roberts: I think this is more complicated.
804 00:57:41.660 ⇒ 00:57:42.380 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
805 00:57:42.700 ⇒ 00:57:43.170 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
806 00:57:43.170 ⇒ 00:57:44.319 Mustafa Raja: I think to…
807 00:57:44.940 ⇒ 00:57:47.739 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, no, we don’t want to do that. Okay, never mind.
808 00:57:57.380 ⇒ 00:58:00.019 Mustafa Raja: Journal credentials…
809 00:58:01.310 ⇒ 00:58:02.210 Samuel Roberts: Oh…
810 00:58:02.210 ⇒ 00:58:03.500 Mustafa Raja: Founded. Oh!
811 00:58:03.500 ⇒ 00:58:04.400 Samuel Roberts: Yes!
812 00:58:05.060 ⇒ 00:58:06.180 Samuel Roberts: Excellent, excellent.
813 00:58:06.800 ⇒ 00:58:07.880 Samuel Roberts: Alright, just do not…
814 00:58:07.880 ⇒ 00:58:10.370 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, exactly.
815 00:58:11.100 ⇒ 00:58:12.050 Mustafa Raja: Clee.
816 00:58:12.300 ⇒ 00:58:16.590 Mustafa Raja: Clay… I ca- I think we can save it, right?
817 00:58:17.680 ⇒ 00:58:18.690 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think it’s fine.
818 00:58:18.690 ⇒ 00:58:19.440 Mustafa Raja: Save it.
819 00:58:22.230 ⇒ 00:58:22.869 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah.
820 00:58:22.870 ⇒ 00:58:23.939 Mustafa Raja: Donald, yes.
821 00:58:24.310 ⇒ 00:58:25.200 Mustafa Raja: Niho.
822 00:58:25.200 ⇒ 00:58:27.049 Samuel Roberts: That’s so funny that it was right there.
823 00:58:28.400 ⇒ 00:58:29.150 Mustafa Raja: clear.
824 00:58:30.110 ⇒ 00:58:32.039 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I wouldn’t worry about anything that’s not required.
825 00:58:32.040 ⇒ 00:58:33.769 Mustafa Raja: Clay.
826 00:58:35.090 ⇒ 00:58:38.990 Mustafa Raja: play… yeah, I guess, I guess the rest is good, no?
827 00:58:39.630 ⇒ 00:58:40.859 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think so, I think…
828 00:58:40.860 ⇒ 00:58:45.229 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I guess… I guess we should then… we should first confirm from them.
829 00:58:45.480 ⇒ 00:58:47.129 Mustafa Raja: And then proceed.
830 00:58:47.530 ⇒ 00:58:48.919 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think that’s perfect.
831 00:58:49.450 ⇒ 00:58:51.710 Mustafa Raja: Okay, last thing.
832 00:58:51.800 ⇒ 00:58:53.679 Samuel Roberts: Yes. I need to discuss.
833 00:58:57.760 ⇒ 00:58:58.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
834 00:59:00.160 ⇒ 00:59:03.699 Mustafa Raja: So, do you have any idea on how BrainTrust works?
835 00:59:05.530 ⇒ 00:59:11.059 Samuel Roberts: A little bit. I haven’t really seen it much, but I know a little bit about the scoring in general.
836 00:59:11.060 ⇒ 00:59:12.010 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay.
837 00:59:19.620 ⇒ 00:59:21.909 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, this is the battle where it’s gonna compare the…
838 00:59:23.190 ⇒ 00:59:27.400 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Okay, so, so, let me open this.
839 00:59:28.130 ⇒ 00:59:40.560 Mustafa Raja: Okay, so how, how the BrainTrust is designed is, to compare, compare, the AI agents on our old.
840 00:59:40.790 ⇒ 00:59:50.900 Mustafa Raja: dataset, or whatever data set that we have. And that particular data set must have an expected result to compare our result on, right? Yeah, yeah.
841 00:59:51.590 ⇒ 00:59:57.409 Mustafa Raja: If we are… If we are supposed to… Let me open that up.
842 01:00:00.710 ⇒ 01:00:01.550 Mustafa Raja: Sorry.
843 01:00:06.080 ⇒ 01:00:16.150 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if we are supposed to, compare it on our incoming decks, we aren’t going to have the expected field.
844 01:00:17.990 ⇒ 01:00:21.129 Mustafa Raja: With them, right? Because this is something new.
845 01:00:21.750 ⇒ 01:00:22.930 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
846 01:00:23.180 ⇒ 01:00:27.250 Mustafa Raja: So, so for, for, let’s say…
847 01:00:34.260 ⇒ 01:00:38.769 Mustafa Raja: Hmm… Yeah, it’s just, this isn’t going to work.
848 01:00:38.770 ⇒ 01:00:40.020 Samuel Roberts: Oh, no!
849 01:00:40.150 ⇒ 01:00:41.110 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
850 01:00:41.110 ⇒ 01:00:46.270 Mustafa Raja: Okay. But… Let’s leave it. Let’s go over here.
851 01:00:46.490 ⇒ 01:00:47.130 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
852 01:00:47.620 ⇒ 01:00:54.900 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, so, just as me, Mika, created this…
853 01:00:55.100 ⇒ 01:00:56.310 Samuel Roberts: Yep. They…
854 01:00:56.310 ⇒ 01:01:00.410 Mustafa Raja: We do not have anything expected for it, right? So…
855 01:01:03.160 ⇒ 01:01:05.029 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I see what you’re saying, it’s, it’s new.
856 01:01:05.030 ⇒ 01:01:09.130 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, so, so, sorry. So…
857 01:01:09.670 ⇒ 01:01:16.400 Mustafa Raja: We’ll have to do… we’ll have to remove this, we’ll have to set… we’ll have to update this battle thing as a whole.
858 01:01:16.400 ⇒ 01:01:21.560 Samuel Roberts: But it’s… But then, would battle not… or how does battle work, specifically?
859 01:01:21.800 ⇒ 01:01:27.360 Mustafa Raja: Battle or anything, this is… this is purely custom.
860 01:01:28.050 ⇒ 01:01:29.160 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay, okay.
861 01:01:29.160 ⇒ 01:01:32.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can set it up as whatever we want.
862 01:01:32.600 ⇒ 01:01:33.670 Samuel Roberts: And maybe…
863 01:01:35.140 ⇒ 01:01:39.260 Mustafa Raja: What we can do is we can have it Wait things.
864 01:01:39.680 ⇒ 01:01:46.130 Samuel Roberts: That’s what I was gonna say, yeah, like, Ellen is a judge and thing, like, not judge, but yeah. Okay.
865 01:01:46.130 ⇒ 01:01:58.050 Mustafa Raja: The other thing that’s not too good about it is that, if we are doing our thing, it’s only going to, result in yes or no, meaning 1 or 0.
866 01:01:59.670 ⇒ 01:02:04.070 Mustafa Raja: So it’s not going to be something like a score, which would have been better.
867 01:02:06.780 ⇒ 01:02:07.699 Samuel Roberts: Yes, it would.
868 01:02:08.180 ⇒ 01:02:08.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
869 01:02:09.100 ⇒ 01:02:12.199 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can add one more score, but that’s all.
870 01:02:12.730 ⇒ 01:02:16.659 Mustafa Raja: Let’s say… oh, no. Okay. Oh, no, we can add multiple.
871 01:02:16.790 ⇒ 01:02:17.600 Mustafa Raja: Oh.
872 01:02:17.810 ⇒ 01:02:20.239 Samuel Roberts: Oh, so we can make, like, out of 5 or something, maybe?
873 01:02:20.690 ⇒ 01:02:22.150 Mustafa Raja: Let’s check.
874 01:02:23.910 ⇒ 01:02:28.239 Samuel Roberts: If we can do 10, I guess that we can set some…
875 01:02:28.330 ⇒ 01:02:35.230 Mustafa Raja: parameters of… Yeah, yeah, we can do, I think we can do what… however…
876 01:02:35.230 ⇒ 01:02:38.469 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, I would say give it, like, a, you know, ranking out of 5 or something.
877 01:02:38.470 ⇒ 01:02:38.890 Mustafa Raja: blue.
878 01:02:38.890 ⇒ 01:02:40.330 Samuel Roberts: Or, like, a letter grade or something.
879 01:02:40.330 ⇒ 01:02:42.199 Mustafa Raja: Can we do 4? Can we do 5 is it?
880 01:02:42.200 ⇒ 01:02:44.250 Samuel Roberts: I think it says it’s gotta go from 0 to 1.
881 01:02:45.520 ⇒ 01:02:49.910 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s… So, for 1 and 0, it’s not blinking.
882 01:02:50.720 ⇒ 01:02:53.070 Samuel Roberts: Right, so I think if you make it, like.5…
883 01:02:54.530 ⇒ 01:02:59.970 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah… Can I do 0.1?
884 01:03:01.240 ⇒ 01:03:02.860 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is working.
885 01:03:05.080 ⇒ 01:03:06.939 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is nice.
886 01:03:08.050 ⇒ 01:03:11.140 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, 0 to 1. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it’s right over here.
887 01:03:11.430 ⇒ 01:03:13.520 Samuel Roberts: Do we have good outputs?
888 01:03:13.900 ⇒ 01:03:16.000 Samuel Roberts: Like, a golden data sheet for this?
889 01:03:17.520 ⇒ 01:03:24.120 Mustafa Raja: That’s only this, what we have right now, and this is what, V…
890 01:03:24.950 ⇒ 01:03:29.980 Mustafa Raja: This is what the… sorry, let me pull that up, actually, motion.
891 01:03:29.980 ⇒ 01:03:35.230 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay. I’m just trying to think if there’s a way to say, like, Comparatively.
892 01:03:48.150 ⇒ 01:03:54.450 Mustafa Raja: Clowns, clones, clones… dis… interlude…
893 01:03:59.320 ⇒ 01:04:01.900 Mustafa Raja: this… Goose.
894 01:04:02.790 ⇒ 01:04:12.799 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, so what the golden data set is only these. The Claw Jat, I just picked up, whatever they generated.
895 01:04:12.800 ⇒ 01:04:26.149 Mustafa Raja: whatever the deck they had generated. So, I wouldn’t say that it… the golden dataset is really golden, because this isn’t the finalized version, because we really never got it.
896 01:04:27.910 ⇒ 01:04:30.939 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think we’re just gonna have to use it, and…
897 01:04:31.140 ⇒ 01:04:33.350 Samuel Roberts: Do what you’re thinking, where it just rates it.
898 01:04:34.250 ⇒ 01:04:34.870 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
899 01:04:34.870 ⇒ 01:04:35.669 Samuel Roberts: And then tune them.
900 01:04:35.670 ⇒ 01:04:44.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can have it… we can… we can have it in two ways, right? One way is only this,
901 01:04:44.940 ⇒ 01:05:02.370 Mustafa Raja: We can, over… over the time when we have it set up, a golden data sheet, we can either… we can either have it set up, run on that, and, we can also have it run on…
902 01:05:02.610 ⇒ 01:05:08.799 Mustafa Raja: these parameters. Right, so one is measuring the output, the other is measuring the process.
903 01:05:09.150 ⇒ 01:05:09.660 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
904 01:05:09.660 ⇒ 01:05:12.100 Samuel Roberts: By comparing the output, yeah, I see what you’re saying.
905 01:05:13.590 ⇒ 01:05:19.850 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but for… but if we want to do something new, this isn’t going to work.
906 01:05:20.320 ⇒ 01:05:25.970 Mustafa Raja: We don’t have the expected things. We’ll have to set up new scores.
907 01:05:28.270 ⇒ 01:05:32.820 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. I think, yeah, we’ll just have to use the, yeah, give it those scores, maybe, like, a…
908 01:05:33.380 ⇒ 01:05:36.160 Samuel Roberts: you know, 0 to 10, man.
909 01:05:36.460 ⇒ 01:05:39.060 Samuel Roberts: Or 0 to… yeah, 0 to 1.1…
910 01:05:39.060 ⇒ 01:05:55.009 Mustafa Raja: I was… I was thinking setting up multiple… multiple… what’s it called, scores. Maybe one thing scores the narrative, the other thing scores the structure, that’s not a bad idea.
911 01:05:55.140 ⇒ 01:05:57.580 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, because we have different agents inside, you’re right.
912 01:05:57.820 ⇒ 01:06:05.580 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but what we will need to do is, we will have to think about those metrics that we want to score.
913 01:06:05.880 ⇒ 01:06:11.259 Mustafa Raja: And those have to be something we would really want to score.
914 01:06:11.680 ⇒ 01:06:13.639 Mustafa Raja: Meaning it’s useful.
915 01:06:14.200 ⇒ 01:06:15.189 Samuel Roberts: Right, right.
916 01:06:16.040 ⇒ 01:06:18.190 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and this is where I would need your help.
917 01:06:18.450 ⇒ 01:06:18.980 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
918 01:06:18.980 ⇒ 01:06:19.610 Mustafa Raja: They say.
919 01:06:19.610 ⇒ 01:06:22.220 Samuel Roberts: Can you jump back over to the N8N real quick?
920 01:06:22.220 ⇒ 01:06:23.120 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah.
921 01:06:23.520 ⇒ 01:06:27.350 Samuel Roberts: So what were the sub-agents that it does? When it generates.
922 01:06:28.000 ⇒ 01:06:28.390 Samuel Roberts: Perfect.
923 01:06:28.390 ⇒ 01:06:29.790 Mustafa Raja: Can you ask again?
924 01:06:30.270 ⇒ 01:06:32.400 Samuel Roberts: The sub-agents that it’s using to, like, do.
925 01:06:32.400 ⇒ 01:06:33.729 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah.
926 01:06:33.920 ⇒ 01:06:40.180 Samuel Roberts: I’m just trying to remember what they all were. Yeah. Okay, yeah, so… So, summarizer, this is… this doesn’t really.
927 01:06:40.520 ⇒ 01:06:44.670 Mustafa Raja: We don’t see it, putting an output anywhere.
928 01:06:44.670 ⇒ 01:06:45.350 Samuel Roberts: Right.
929 01:06:47.640 ⇒ 01:06:48.330 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
930 01:06:48.330 ⇒ 01:06:56.719 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and then Insight Analyst, it just tells us all about the insights that it has gathered.
931 01:06:56.890 ⇒ 01:06:58.230 Mustafa Raja: From the input.
932 01:06:58.230 ⇒ 01:06:58.810 Samuel Roberts: Yep.
933 01:07:00.310 ⇒ 01:07:00.990 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
934 01:07:01.140 ⇒ 01:07:02.020 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
935 01:07:02.600 ⇒ 01:07:05.690 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m trying to think what would be the best metrics there.
936 01:07:06.120 ⇒ 01:07:10.339 Samuel Roberts: The best thing might be that when we can talk with Mika about it, and ask him, like.
937 01:07:10.770 ⇒ 01:07:13.459 Samuel Roberts: Other specific things it wants to look for?
938 01:07:14.790 ⇒ 01:07:34.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I think, I think if… if the evals… because, because my guess is, obviously, if a deck is generated, Mika would need, Matthew’s review on it, right? And if we have, if we set up evals in a way that… that would lay out Matthew’s review.
939 01:07:35.310 ⇒ 01:07:36.230 Mustafa Raja: on the deck.
940 01:07:36.230 ⇒ 01:07:37.120 Samuel Roberts: Yes.
941 01:07:37.120 ⇒ 01:07:40.300 Mustafa Raja: This is something that… that can… that can help.
942 01:07:40.470 ⇒ 01:07:42.169 Mustafa Raja: help interlude.
943 01:07:42.950 ⇒ 01:07:43.560 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
944 01:07:44.500 ⇒ 01:07:59.169 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So my, my, my goal would be to, have the, what, what’s it called? The eval set up in a way that Mika would need more… more or lesser reviews from.
945 01:07:59.750 ⇒ 01:08:01.460 Mustafa Raja: Matthew.
946 01:08:02.440 ⇒ 01:08:08.859 Samuel Roberts: Right. So, you think we need Matthew’s input on what would be the final rating system?
947 01:08:09.330 ⇒ 01:08:10.950 Mustafa Raja: I think yes.
948 01:08:12.780 ⇒ 01:08:13.860 Mustafa Raja: What do you think?
949 01:08:14.400 ⇒ 01:08:21.090 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I mean, I think that’s definitely, like, if there’s a, you know, a rubric or whatever he… not rubric, but some sort of…
950 01:08:21.200 ⇒ 01:08:22.800 Samuel Roberts: Like, what is he to look for?
951 01:08:23.010 ⇒ 01:08:28.649 Samuel Roberts: I mean, maybe… we have a sense of that, I’m not sure I do yet, but… .
952 01:08:31.859 ⇒ 01:08:35.509 Mustafa Raja: Because format, we have it nailed, I believe.
953 01:08:35.709 ⇒ 01:08:37.239 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Interesting.
954 01:08:38.529 ⇒ 01:08:42.319 Mustafa Raja: What is hidden from us? I don’t know.
955 01:08:42.489 ⇒ 01:08:55.469 Mustafa Raja: on what metrics, on what measures, is it going to be judged? Is the deck going to be judged, whether it’s good enough to be put in front of the client?
956 01:08:55.819 ⇒ 01:09:02.989 Samuel Roberts: That might be something we need to start tracking better in Supabase, though. Maybe this is not just evals, but is specifically, like.
957 01:09:03.109 ⇒ 01:09:06.899 Samuel Roberts: How good are the humans judging our outputs?
958 01:09:08.270 ⇒ 01:09:09.129 Mustafa Raja: Can you see that?
959 01:09:09.130 ⇒ 01:09:09.779 Samuel Roberts: the week.
960 01:09:09.890 ⇒ 01:09:12.360 Samuel Roberts: How many times, like, for example, like.
961 01:09:14.180 ⇒ 01:09:17.390 Samuel Roberts: it’s not just about the LLM judging it, right? The final.
962 01:09:17.399 ⇒ 01:09:17.779 Mustafa Raja: Project.
963 01:09:17.779 ⇒ 01:09:18.679 Samuel Roberts: Matthew.
964 01:09:18.859 ⇒ 01:09:19.429 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
965 01:09:19.430 ⇒ 01:09:25.760 Samuel Roberts: who says, this one’s good, and it only took Mika, you know, 4 back and forths.
966 01:09:27.490 ⇒ 01:09:29.449 Samuel Roberts: Versus 10 back and forths.
967 01:09:31.529 ⇒ 01:09:34.140 Samuel Roberts: Is that… is that a metric that’s important, you think?
968 01:09:37.160 ⇒ 01:09:40.780 Samuel Roberts: How good our system is at doing it in fewer.
969 01:09:41.140 ⇒ 01:09:48.879 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess, but this isn’t going to be… this isn’t going to be, something that can be detected over here.
970 01:09:49.189 ⇒ 01:09:50.609 Samuel Roberts: I’m not sure what we can do there besides.
971 01:09:50.609 ⇒ 01:09:54.729 Mustafa Raja: It’s just giving it some amazing ratings. My headphone got removed.
972 01:09:54.730 ⇒ 01:09:55.230 Samuel Roberts: Oh, no.
973 01:09:56.480 ⇒ 01:09:57.520 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I can hear you.
974 01:09:57.830 ⇒ 01:09:58.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
975 01:09:59.320 ⇒ 01:10:06.669 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so I was saying that, this isn’t something we can record via BrainTrust.
976 01:10:06.670 ⇒ 01:10:07.050 Samuel Roberts: No, I’m.
977 01:10:07.050 ⇒ 01:10:08.080 Mustafa Raja: I’m delayed.
978 01:10:08.080 ⇒ 01:10:09.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, go ahead.
979 01:10:09.400 ⇒ 01:10:11.079 Mustafa Raja: But we can’t do it in Superbase.
980 01:10:11.620 ⇒ 01:10:17.189 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say definitely add the superbase, and then in Brain Trust, what we can probably do is…
981 01:10:18.030 ⇒ 01:10:20.630 Samuel Roberts: Make some kind of,
982 01:10:20.770 ⇒ 01:10:24.530 Samuel Roberts: Rating system, and then improve the rating system over time to get more in alignment.
983 01:10:24.530 ⇒ 01:10:26.480 Mustafa Raja: hmm, hmm.
984 01:10:27.230 ⇒ 01:10:30.850 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, my question would be on this is…
985 01:10:31.700 ⇒ 01:10:35.909 Mustafa Raja: What… on what standards, on what metrics are we rating it?
986 01:10:36.590 ⇒ 01:10:42.059 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that might be something to just… I mean, unless we have that anywhere in Notion or anything, like, what are his…
987 01:10:42.680 ⇒ 01:10:46.269 Mustafa Raja: Main… or in his chats, or whatever. Hmm.
988 01:10:46.820 ⇒ 01:10:49.250 Samuel Roberts: Might be something to just post in the Slack and be like.
989 01:10:49.700 ⇒ 01:10:52.140 Samuel Roberts: You know, we’re trying to build a…
990 01:10:53.560 ⇒ 01:10:55.560 Samuel Roberts: You know, we want to build the evals.
991 01:10:55.790 ⇒ 01:10:58.590 Samuel Roberts: Oh, sorry, hold on, my phone just clicked over.
992 01:10:59.000 ⇒ 01:10:59.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
993 01:10:59.510 ⇒ 01:11:05.020 Samuel Roberts: Okay. Yeah, maybe say, like, you know, what’s a good…
994 01:11:05.780 ⇒ 01:11:09.470 Samuel Roberts: first way to rate it, like, do you want to look it over on there? Like.
995 01:11:09.620 ⇒ 01:11:12.439 Samuel Roberts: I’m just… I’m not trying to ask specifically enough to be like.
996 01:11:12.690 ⇒ 01:11:13.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
997 01:11:13.110 ⇒ 01:11:17.389 Samuel Roberts: But without seeming like we don’t know what we’re talking about at this point, but…
998 01:11:17.760 ⇒ 01:11:21.410 Samuel Roberts: It’s also, like, we’re not the copy editors, you know?
999 01:11:21.900 ⇒ 01:11:23.309 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
1000 01:11:24.650 ⇒ 01:11:27.320 Samuel Roberts: I would say… we can…
1001 01:11:30.830 ⇒ 01:11:39.749 Samuel Roberts: We can… Yeah, maybe explain that we’re trying to make the evals based on a rating system.
1002 01:11:40.060 ⇒ 01:11:42.839 Mustafa Raja: Is there a specific, like.
1003 01:11:43.460 ⇒ 01:11:52.190 Samuel Roberts: rubric that they would want to rate, you know, 0 to 10, 0 to 5 against, and what would those be that we can give the LM to test out on a few?
1004 01:11:52.590 ⇒ 01:11:53.709 Samuel Roberts: See how they do.
1005 01:11:55.150 ⇒ 01:11:56.330 Mustafa Raja: Yes, yes.
1006 01:11:57.960 ⇒ 01:12:04.550 Samuel Roberts: You know what I mean? Like, a description of, like, what a 5 out of 5 would be, just like if you were a teacher grading a test, you know?
1007 01:12:04.690 ⇒ 01:12:05.430 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
1008 01:12:06.200 ⇒ 01:12:06.620 Samuel Roberts: I think that.
1009 01:12:06.620 ⇒ 01:12:13.860 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so, yeah, this is good. So, I think what we are going to do is we are going to remove this expected, right?
1010 01:12:13.860 ⇒ 01:12:18.529 Samuel Roberts: I think so, yeah, unless… unless… yeah, I don’t think that’s gonna work for this system.
1011 01:12:18.530 ⇒ 01:12:22.449 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… Yeah, we really cannot have it.
1012 01:12:23.090 ⇒ 01:12:24.550 Samuel Roberts: Yeah. Over here.
1013 01:12:24.700 ⇒ 01:12:29.830 Mustafa Raja: I believe… I… for now, I’m not going to touch it.
1014 01:12:29.830 ⇒ 01:12:30.570 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, okay.
1015 01:12:30.570 ⇒ 01:12:32.169 Mustafa Raja: We need to make decisions first.
1016 01:12:32.610 ⇒ 01:12:36.409 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, I think if we make, like, a rubric, like a… 0 to 5.
1017 01:12:36.730 ⇒ 01:12:41.209 Samuel Roberts: Which is really 0 to 1, but in, you know, 0.2 increments.
1018 01:12:41.340 ⇒ 01:12:43.859 Samuel Roberts: And then say, like, what would it look like
1019 01:12:44.350 ⇒ 01:12:47.960 Samuel Roberts: What would a rubric look like to grade these?
1020 01:12:48.810 ⇒ 01:12:51.450 Samuel Roberts: That we might be able to test with the OLA.
1021 01:12:52.510 ⇒ 01:12:53.810 Mustafa Raja: Hmm, hmm.
1022 01:12:54.790 ⇒ 01:12:58.310 Mustafa Raja: So… Hmm, going ahead.
1023 01:12:58.980 ⇒ 01:13:00.839 Mustafa Raja: With these evals.
1024 01:13:02.820 ⇒ 01:13:03.510 Mustafa Raja: Hmm…
1025 01:13:07.820 ⇒ 01:13:08.250 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1026 01:13:08.250 ⇒ 01:13:19.000 Mustafa Raja: Do we, do we, okay, so, so for, for the evals, we would need, need a review from, or, have a discussion with Matthew first, right?
1027 01:13:19.320 ⇒ 01:13:22.459 Samuel Roberts: If we’re gonna go to more of a rating system, I think we would have to.
1028 01:13:27.530 ⇒ 01:13:29.939 Mustafa Raja: The other thing you suggested with rubrics.
1029 01:13:30.410 ⇒ 01:13:31.890 Mustafa Raja: Can you explain it a little?
1030 01:13:32.610 ⇒ 01:13:39.350 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, so my thought is, you know, something we would put in the prompt here… would be…
1031 01:13:40.060 ⇒ 01:13:46.250 Samuel Roberts: like a… You know, you’re gonna grade these outlines based on the following
1032 01:13:48.270 ⇒ 01:13:50.749 Samuel Roberts: You know, give it a rating based on the following.
1033 01:13:50.900 ⇒ 01:13:59.859 Samuel Roberts: You know, 5 out of 5, where it satisfies these requirements. Doesn’t do this, but does do this. 4 out of 5. Doesn’t quite reach this part, but does this.
1034 01:14:02.080 ⇒ 01:14:13.829 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess this is… this is also going to be good, because if we then ask Matthew, Matthew will have a view, okay, how it’s working with the rubric, and…
1035 01:14:14.940 ⇒ 01:14:19.630 Mustafa Raja: how good it can work if we have some metrics to run it on, right?
1036 01:14:20.820 ⇒ 01:14:22.900 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1037 01:14:23.190 ⇒ 01:14:24.130 Samuel Roberts: That’s stupid.
1038 01:14:26.000 ⇒ 01:14:36.230 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Okay, so… hmm… So we are going to… Say, how are parts of… This is working.
1039 01:14:37.430 ⇒ 01:14:47.169 Mustafa Raja: Do you have a rough idea on… Sorry if I’m asking too much. Do you have any rough idea on what we CAN ask it to…
1040 01:14:47.600 ⇒ 01:14:48.789 Mustafa Raja: Rate.
1041 01:14:49.810 ⇒ 01:14:54.670 Samuel Roberts: Without, like… Hmm.
1042 01:14:57.050 ⇒ 01:14:58.070 Samuel Roberts: Trying to think.
1043 01:15:05.490 ⇒ 01:15:06.730 Samuel Roberts: Maybe…
1044 01:15:08.700 ⇒ 01:15:14.520 Samuel Roberts: you know, we could… I don’t know. We already are kind of doing some of this stuff inside, where it double checks for…
1045 01:15:14.930 ⇒ 01:15:15.990 Mustafa Raja: references and things.
1046 01:15:15.990 ⇒ 01:15:16.480 Samuel Roberts: ain’t.
1047 01:15:16.480 ⇒ 01:15:19.050 Mustafa Raja: So the questions are there.
1048 01:15:19.190 ⇒ 01:15:20.849 Mustafa Raja: The steelman is…
1049 01:15:20.850 ⇒ 01:15:23.500 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, the Steelman’s doing some of that, isn’t it, already?
1050 01:15:23.500 ⇒ 01:15:35.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah… The format cannot be messed up, because it’s… Whatever it’s called,
1051 01:15:40.270 ⇒ 01:15:43.539 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the format is solid. We have.
1052 01:15:43.540 ⇒ 01:15:44.890 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, no, I get you.
1053 01:15:44.890 ⇒ 01:15:46.860 Mustafa Raja: Output parser, so it’s not.
1054 01:15:46.860 ⇒ 01:15:47.260 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1055 01:15:47.260 ⇒ 01:15:48.769 Mustafa Raja: It’s not going to be messed up at all.
1056 01:15:49.540 ⇒ 01:15:50.880 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah, I’m thinking…
1057 01:15:50.880 ⇒ 01:15:52.880 Mustafa Raja: What is left there?
1058 01:15:53.070 ⇒ 01:15:55.130 Mustafa Raja: For us to rate.
1059 01:15:56.260 ⇒ 01:15:57.879 Samuel Roberts: I mean, hmm.
1060 01:15:58.560 ⇒ 01:16:02.100 Samuel Roberts: It’s hard to know… Until we get more…
1061 01:16:02.220 ⇒ 01:16:04.320 Samuel Roberts: input and feedback, I feel like.
1062 01:16:04.700 ⇒ 01:16:08.249 Samuel Roberts: What we can do, I believe, Yeah, go ahead.
1063 01:16:08.250 ⇒ 01:16:09.680 Mustafa Raja: Give it the input.
1064 01:16:13.290 ⇒ 01:16:15.640 Mustafa Raja: And maybe… C.
1065 01:16:16.240 ⇒ 01:16:18.980 Mustafa Raja: If the source is mentioned.
1066 01:16:19.510 ⇒ 01:16:23.150 Mustafa Raja: From within this input.
1067 01:16:28.600 ⇒ 01:16:34.810 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that would be a good check, but is it really a good… Like, way to evaluate it?
1068 01:16:36.050 ⇒ 01:16:36.800 Mustafa Raja: No.
1069 01:16:37.510 ⇒ 01:16:38.110 Mustafa Raja: But…
1070 01:16:38.110 ⇒ 01:16:38.870 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1071 01:16:39.820 ⇒ 01:16:43.940 Mustafa Raja: we are doing this, this QA compliance.
1072 01:16:43.950 ⇒ 01:16:46.290 Samuel Roberts: Its job is to verify this.
1073 01:16:46.440 ⇒ 01:16:47.150 Mustafa Raja: we learned…
1074 01:16:47.150 ⇒ 01:16:47.470 Samuel Roberts: Right.
1075 01:16:47.470 ⇒ 01:16:48.700 Mustafa Raja: Doing a good job or not.
1076 01:16:50.310 ⇒ 01:16:54.319 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, it’s one eval that I suppose is worth doing.
1077 01:16:55.650 ⇒ 01:16:58.650 Samuel Roberts: I’m wondering…
1078 01:16:58.970 ⇒ 01:17:05.659 Mustafa Raja: One other thing that I feel would be really good is to judge this narrative architect.
1079 01:17:06.750 ⇒ 01:17:08.050 Samuel Roberts: So, judging.
1080 01:17:08.050 ⇒ 01:17:08.530 Mustafa Raja: You can…
1081 01:17:08.530 ⇒ 01:17:09.879 Samuel Roberts: each step, potentially.
1082 01:17:10.170 ⇒ 01:17:13.120 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah. If we… if we can…
1083 01:17:13.120 ⇒ 01:17:15.319 Mustafa Raja: To a really good prompt.
1084 01:17:16.280 ⇒ 01:17:21.469 Mustafa Raja: That it does satisfy the, whatever the, interludes.
1085 01:17:22.690 ⇒ 01:17:23.450 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1086 01:17:23.820 ⇒ 01:17:28.779 Mustafa Raja: Standards are, if we can judge the narrative flow on that.
1087 01:17:29.090 ⇒ 01:17:37.380 Mustafa Raja: and that… what that’s going to do is we can then improve This narrative flow also.
1088 01:17:38.130 ⇒ 01:17:41.280 Samuel Roberts: Right, so does that mean we need to put something before and after that?
1089 01:17:41.760 ⇒ 01:17:43.710 Samuel Roberts: agent, somehow?
1090 01:17:43.860 ⇒ 01:17:46.520 Mustafa Raja: I guess, I guess…
1091 01:17:46.870 ⇒ 01:17:50.470 Mustafa Raja: And what we will do is…
1092 01:17:52.480 ⇒ 01:17:55.469 Mustafa Raja: We, we let the evals…
1093 01:17:55.630 ⇒ 01:18:03.849 Mustafa Raja: Gather a few, and then we can look back into them, okay, let’s improve this system prompt, or that system prompt.
1094 01:18:05.910 ⇒ 01:18:08.829 Samuel Roberts: Yes, yes, that is smart.
1095 01:18:12.360 ⇒ 01:18:16.230 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, the narrative is probably a good place to start with that.
1096 01:18:17.590 ⇒ 01:18:19.939 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I get about what’s left.
1097 01:18:20.230 ⇒ 01:18:23.810 Mustafa Raja: Would be to craft some good system prompts.
1098 01:18:24.250 ⇒ 01:18:25.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, they’re…
1099 01:18:29.270 ⇒ 01:18:32.010 Mustafa Raja: But… those system prompts.
1100 01:18:32.270 ⇒ 01:18:37.669 Mustafa Raja: would, would be crafted with interlude’s requirements in mind.
1101 01:18:37.830 ⇒ 01:18:39.199 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I think so.
1102 01:18:42.720 ⇒ 01:18:44.989 Mustafa Raja: And I need to tell Mika that…
1103 01:18:45.200 ⇒ 01:18:51.719 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but we can, I mean, if that’s something he’s gonna try to do, you know?
1104 01:18:52.020 ⇒ 01:18:56.630 Mustafa Raja: That’s gonna be something good to know. But do you think I,
1105 01:18:57.070 ⇒ 01:19:01.010 Mustafa Raja: Is it that we need to tell Mika to,
1106 01:19:02.880 ⇒ 01:19:16.270 Mustafa Raja: I think this is a very important step in their process. They gave some initial information, and they now have more data, and they just want to update this deck on that.
1107 01:19:16.500 ⇒ 01:19:20.720 Mustafa Raja: In that case, I guess, create a new deck.
1108 01:19:21.670 ⇒ 01:19:22.880 Mustafa Raja: altogether.
1109 01:19:23.220 ⇒ 01:19:25.270 Mustafa Raja: with all Information.
1110 01:19:26.490 ⇒ 01:19:32.889 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I’m wondering, but it depends on the information, doesn’t it? Because it might not want to create the whole new thing, you might just need to update certain parts of it.
1111 01:19:33.700 ⇒ 01:19:39.699 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the reason this didn’t work is the part wasn’t mentioned at all.
1112 01:19:40.900 ⇒ 01:19:42.429 Samuel Roberts: Oh, I see, okay.
1113 01:19:42.430 ⇒ 01:19:49.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so if I take you back… Over here… We will see that…
1114 01:19:49.830 ⇒ 01:19:59.979 Mustafa Raja: What I think was triggered was this general thing, and the general thing I left is, this particular… for this particular use case.
1115 01:20:02.100 ⇒ 01:20:13.319 Mustafa Raja: Because I really don’t have a… didn’t have a sensor at that time what this is going to do. So… so… so… so we see that for each part of it, we have a step.
1116 01:20:13.320 ⇒ 01:20:13.890 Samuel Roberts: Yep.
1117 01:20:14.150 ⇒ 01:20:27.750 Mustafa Raja: Which it can perform. Since no part, no particular part was mentioned, this thing put, this thing most likely got triggered, the general one, and so it’s not going to respond at all.
1118 01:20:27.750 ⇒ 01:20:31.990 Samuel Roberts: Okay, so yeah, just feed that back into the overall then, probably?
1119 01:20:32.580 ⇒ 01:20:40.540 Mustafa Raja: The… so… so what you’re saying is… we can connect this… Over here?
1120 01:20:41.540 ⇒ 01:20:44.109 Samuel Roberts: Or, like, do something… yeah, ba- I mean…
1121 01:20:44.880 ⇒ 01:20:49.839 Samuel Roberts: If you’re talking about redoing the whole thing with that new information, then perhaps that is what you want, you know?
1122 01:20:49.840 ⇒ 01:20:56.559 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, if, if that is going to be the case, I guess, because…
1123 01:20:56.970 ⇒ 01:21:01.129 Mustafa Raja: Because the problem is that this all… this is a lot of text.
1124 01:21:01.460 ⇒ 01:21:06.190 Samuel Roberts: Yes, it is. Well, that’s why if we start… if we’re storing it, Maybe we can…
1125 01:21:08.170 ⇒ 01:21:14.340 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess, I guess we would be able to, we would be able to, what’s it called?
1126 01:21:20.030 ⇒ 01:21:22.090 Mustafa Raja: We would be able to update this.
1127 01:21:25.120 ⇒ 01:21:25.800 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1128 01:21:27.500 ⇒ 01:21:45.569 Mustafa Raja: One other thing is that if we give, even if we give it… because this is very general, no? Yes, it is. The AI agent wouldn’t know what… which part to update, and it’s not going to be able to, return us all this text back.
1129 01:21:45.570 ⇒ 01:21:53.980 Mustafa Raja: So we need… we need to identify which part got updated, and keep the rest of the…
1130 01:21:53.980 ⇒ 01:21:55.270 Mustafa Raja: deck intact.
1131 01:21:56.050 ⇒ 01:22:10.430 Mustafa Raja: Because, what’s happening over here, we already know which part is going to get updated, and we are only giving it that part, and it only returns that part. We craft the whole thing back over here, and send it.
1132 01:22:10.570 ⇒ 01:22:19.089 Mustafa Raja: With the general, the issue really is that it’s not going to be able to return the whole thing at all, and we have to feed it the whole thing.
1133 01:22:19.200 ⇒ 01:22:21.599 Mustafa Raja: So we need a way
1134 01:22:22.230 ⇒ 01:22:35.069 Mustafa Raja: to identify what got changed. I guess we can still do that. We can have it send us JSON for that, and then build it up. What do you think about that?
1135 01:22:36.480 ⇒ 01:22:38.680 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1136 01:22:38.930 ⇒ 01:22:42.149 Samuel Roberts: I’m wondering if there’s a way to go from that general to have it
1137 01:22:42.500 ⇒ 01:22:46.180 Samuel Roberts: Figure out what part to do, and then have it
1138 01:22:46.480 ⇒ 01:22:48.250 Samuel Roberts: Go to one of those other parts.
1139 01:22:49.740 ⇒ 01:22:51.160 Mustafa Raja: Yeah…
1140 01:22:51.160 ⇒ 01:22:56.810 Samuel Roberts: Like, is it able to say, like, okay, this is a general one, But it wants, you know.
1141 01:22:57.670 ⇒ 01:22:58.540 Samuel Roberts: It really means.
1142 01:22:58.540 ⇒ 01:23:02.400 Mustafa Raja: But my thought process would be…
1143 01:23:04.830 ⇒ 01:23:09.709 Mustafa Raja: Firstly, firstly, I didn’t count for these files at all.
1144 01:23:09.710 ⇒ 01:23:10.640 Samuel Roberts: Right, right.
1145 01:23:11.480 ⇒ 01:23:13.650 Mustafa Raja: Meaning, if it’s in feedback loop.
1146 01:23:13.990 ⇒ 01:23:21.379 Mustafa Raja: I didn’t count that there’s going to be files at all, so none of these are accounting for these files.
1147 01:23:22.230 ⇒ 01:23:22.980 Samuel Roberts: Right.
1148 01:23:22.980 ⇒ 01:23:36.469 Mustafa Raja: one thing that I need to work on. The other thing, I believe what I can do is, give it this, give it these files, give it the whole deck, and then what we can say… let me think…
1149 01:23:38.260 ⇒ 01:23:47.690 Mustafa Raja: we can have the AI agent update, whatever part he feels need to be updated, and then in JSON, it should tell us
1150 01:23:47.770 ⇒ 01:24:04.109 Mustafa Raja: which parts, meaning if it’s a slide, then what slide number got updated? Yes. Obviously, with this, it’s going to, going to update multiple parts, right? So, so if it’s slide, what slide number? If it’s,
1151 01:24:04.110 ⇒ 01:24:15.169 Mustafa Raja: rationale, then what, which slides, rationale, if it’s overall questions, then what… so, so, or we can, I guess, we can, we can do that.
1152 01:24:18.330 ⇒ 01:24:18.920 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
1153 01:24:19.050 ⇒ 01:24:19.910 Samuel Roberts: Think that.
1154 01:24:20.710 ⇒ 01:24:22.520 Samuel Roberts: Is probably how it has to go.
1155 01:24:23.010 ⇒ 01:24:26.300 Samuel Roberts: I mean, I’m trying to think what other things that it would do that’s just general, but, like.
1156 01:24:28.170 ⇒ 01:24:32.239 Mustafa Raja: It needs to figure out, based on that, what it needs to go to.
1157 01:24:32.570 ⇒ 01:24:36.629 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I guess we should… tell Mika that…
1158 01:24:36.800 ⇒ 01:24:42.060 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, definitely let him know. Yeah, let him know it’s not going to, and then we’re gonna work on that, so…
1159 01:24:42.060 ⇒ 01:24:43.080 Mustafa Raja: Erica…
1160 01:24:47.710 ⇒ 01:25:04.039 Mustafa Raja: The reply, aging… Agent does not reply… does not reply for… General updates for now, general…
1161 01:25:04.330 ⇒ 01:25:11.669 Mustafa Raja: Und date… Well, now… We have to be… we have to be specific.
1162 01:25:12.950 ⇒ 01:25:18.069 Mustafa Raja: Specific… We have to specify the power we need to specify.
1163 01:25:18.070 ⇒ 01:25:18.680 Samuel Roberts: Yeah.
1164 01:25:19.170 ⇒ 01:25:25.290 Mustafa Raja: Don’t pay me… long… to update…
1165 01:25:28.310 ⇒ 01:25:31.460 Mustafa Raja: Also, the… What’s it called?
1166 01:25:31.680 ⇒ 01:25:33.369 Mustafa Raja: The files… the files…
1167 01:25:33.370 ⇒ 01:25:34.030 Samuel Roberts: yet.
1168 01:25:34.030 ⇒ 01:25:35.160 Mustafa Raja: Or not.
1169 01:25:35.480 ⇒ 01:25:41.220 Mustafa Raja: Accounted… for… The updates…
1170 01:25:42.510 ⇒ 01:25:47.839 Mustafa Raja: Should I say that, that this is, this is what we are going to work on?
1171 01:25:47.950 ⇒ 01:25:48.990 Mustafa Raja: Next.
1172 01:25:50.000 ⇒ 01:25:53.580 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I would say, yeah, this is a common…
1173 01:25:53.810 ⇒ 01:25:56.480 Samuel Roberts: Way you want to interact with it, we’ll update that now.
1174 01:25:57.660 ⇒ 01:26:00.140 Mustafa Raja: If this is a common…
1175 01:26:10.740 ⇒ 01:26:11.910 Mustafa Raja: We can…
1176 01:26:19.520 ⇒ 01:26:20.900 Samuel Roberts: 15 psychos.
1177 01:26:23.080 ⇒ 01:26:27.360 Samuel Roberts: I would say we can update the agent to handle that, maybe.
1178 01:26:27.810 ⇒ 01:26:28.440 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
1179 01:26:37.170 ⇒ 01:26:43.229 Mustafa Raja: And then I, should I show, should I call the DEX agent,
1180 01:26:43.370 ⇒ 01:26:49.890 Mustafa Raja: Also, to show Mika how… how we can… Iterate.
1181 01:26:51.930 ⇒ 01:26:58.799 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, maybe. But let’s send that at least, and then say, you know, give it a try with some more specific feedback, maybe.
1182 01:27:01.750 ⇒ 01:27:05.780 Samuel Roberts: I mean, he also mentioned that we can try to meet up, or, you know, get on a call.
1183 01:27:06.810 ⇒ 01:27:07.300 Mustafa Raja: some point.
1184 01:27:07.300 ⇒ 01:27:10.619 Samuel Roberts: That was Thursday or Friday, I think, so I kind of wanted to get approval.
1185 01:27:28.510 ⇒ 01:27:31.879 Mustafa Raja: Let’s have it work on…
1186 01:27:32.080 ⇒ 01:27:35.630 Mustafa Raja: Well, I wouldn’t… I wouldn’t actually do that because it might mess up what he was doing, you know?
1187 01:27:36.830 ⇒ 01:27:38.579 Samuel Roberts: To say, like, you know, give it some more.
1188 01:27:38.580 ⇒ 01:27:40.359 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1189 01:27:40.360 ⇒ 01:27:41.950 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, I wouldn’t… I wouldn’t do that.
1190 01:27:42.180 ⇒ 01:27:47.370 Mustafa Raja: Let… let me… Hmm…
1191 01:27:47.710 ⇒ 01:27:49.160 Samuel Roberts: Linked to something, maybe?
1192 01:27:49.160 ⇒ 01:27:51.310 Mustafa Raja: That’s internal, though.
1193 01:27:52.390 ⇒ 01:27:54.190 Samuel Roberts: Is there anything on this channel that you have, though?
1194 01:27:54.190 ⇒ 01:27:55.430 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think so.
1195 01:27:55.980 ⇒ 01:27:57.740 Samuel Roberts: Thought you had one from earlier that I linked to.
1196 01:27:57.740 ⇒ 01:28:03.430 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, there’s a thread there.
1197 01:28:04.360 ⇒ 01:28:08.169 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, this is only… I don’t… I’m not updating.
1198 01:28:08.170 ⇒ 01:28:08.990 Samuel Roberts: Oh, okay.
1199 01:28:09.480 ⇒ 01:28:11.680 Mustafa Raja: Not over here, too.
1200 01:28:11.920 ⇒ 01:28:12.240 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
1201 01:28:15.270 ⇒ 01:28:16.000 Mustafa Raja: Hmm.
1202 01:28:17.480 ⇒ 01:28:18.730 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, not over here too.
1203 01:28:18.730 ⇒ 01:28:19.180 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
1204 01:28:19.180 ⇒ 01:28:23.299 Mustafa Raja: Oh, I should have had an example. Or maybe, maybe I can add a photo.
1205 01:28:23.920 ⇒ 01:28:26.189 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, yeah, add a screenshot or something, perfect.
1206 01:28:28.790 ⇒ 01:28:30.480 Mustafa Raja: will be helpful.
1207 01:28:37.410 ⇒ 01:28:38.180 Mustafa Raja: Nope.
1208 01:28:59.740 ⇒ 01:29:01.150 Mustafa Raja: This might be it.
1209 01:29:07.710 ⇒ 01:29:08.550 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
1210 01:29:10.250 ⇒ 01:29:11.369 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1211 01:29:15.020 ⇒ 01:29:17.380 Mustafa Raja: So I, I should only do this, right?
1212 01:29:18.650 ⇒ 01:29:19.710 Samuel Roberts: Yeah, that’s probably fine.
1213 01:29:20.370 ⇒ 01:29:21.050 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
1214 01:29:35.410 ⇒ 01:29:36.510 Mustafa Raja: Oh my god.
1215 01:29:39.390 ⇒ 01:29:40.660 Mustafa Raja: like this.
1216 01:29:59.440 ⇒ 01:30:18.140 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, Superbase is going to help a lot, because I have to do a lot of parsing, because we would talk, in the thread, or even, let’s say, we send the thread to Notion, and then we want to update it, since this is… this does, reply with
1217 01:30:18.140 ⇒ 01:30:25.469 Mustafa Raja: what’s it called? The, link to the Notion, it thinks that this is the deck.
1218 01:30:25.510 ⇒ 01:30:30.240 Mustafa Raja: So I need to… needed to tell him, no, no, no, go back.
1219 01:30:30.450 ⇒ 01:30:37.160 Mustafa Raja: And see when you reply it multiple times, consistently, that’s what the deck is.
1220 01:30:37.390 ⇒ 01:30:39.480 Mustafa Raja: And find the recent one only.
1221 01:30:39.480 ⇒ 01:30:42.629 Samuel Roberts: Definitely getting into Superbase and updating that one will be better.
1222 01:30:43.340 ⇒ 01:30:44.320 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1223 01:30:44.740 ⇒ 01:30:45.340 Samuel Roberts: Okay.
1224 01:30:45.340 ⇒ 01:30:49.150 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, I guess, I guess this is good, this is good.
1225 01:30:49.150 ⇒ 01:30:50.570 Samuel Roberts: Okay, yeah.
1226 01:30:50.570 ⇒ 01:30:51.590 Mustafa Raja: really good.
1227 01:30:52.060 ⇒ 01:31:00.740 Samuel Roberts: Good. I would say, yeah, Supabase sounds good for that. We’ll definitely check, make sure with UTAM to add another project,
1228 01:31:00.840 ⇒ 01:31:02.159 Samuel Roberts: It’s fine there.
1229 01:31:02.430 ⇒ 01:31:07.550 Samuel Roberts: And then… The other stuff was checking the Salesforce stuff.
1230 01:31:08.310 ⇒ 01:31:16.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay, and for this, what did we say? Yeah.
1231 01:31:16.620 ⇒ 01:31:24.840 Samuel Roberts: what did we decide there? I think we want to put together some kind of rubric. You could probably even use ChatGPT to help put together, like, a basic rubric to start.
1232 01:31:25.020 ⇒ 01:31:29.719 Samuel Roberts: And then get Matthew’s feedback on that after we run it a few times, maybe.
1233 01:31:29.720 ⇒ 01:31:31.460 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1234 01:31:31.750 ⇒ 01:31:40.600 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. What do you think about the role that, eventually the evals would be what Matthew would say on the deck?
1235 01:31:41.510 ⇒ 01:31:44.530 Samuel Roberts: I think that’s… interesting. I…
1236 01:31:45.490 ⇒ 01:31:53.020 Samuel Roberts: I think we can start… what more importantly, we can do is start gathering his feedback from that, and… Yeah, yeah.
1237 01:31:53.020 ⇒ 01:31:53.380 Mustafa Raja: Yay.
1238 01:31:53.380 ⇒ 01:31:56.780 Samuel Roberts: It’s one of those things, like, we don’t want to completely remove the human from the loop for those.
1239 01:31:57.100 ⇒ 01:31:57.640 Samuel Roberts: But…
1240 01:31:57.640 ⇒ 01:31:59.079 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, definitely, definitely.
1241 01:31:59.080 ⇒ 01:32:02.570 Samuel Roberts: I think… I think it will eventually be like, yeah, I can do a first pass.
1242 01:32:02.750 ⇒ 01:32:04.210 Samuel Roberts: That he wouldn’t have to do.
1243 01:32:05.030 ⇒ 01:32:09.820 Samuel Roberts: past that… yeah, I think… I think that’s probably smart. I just don’t know how we get there yet until we have more.
1244 01:32:09.820 ⇒ 01:32:18.790 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, obviously, we will need a few conversations to understand how he really does his thing, and then only then we’ll be able to do that.
1245 01:32:19.430 ⇒ 01:32:20.070 Samuel Roberts: Totally.
1246 01:32:21.430 ⇒ 01:32:27.930 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, I guess I have a… I have… I have a better sense of how, things should go now.
1247 01:32:28.270 ⇒ 01:32:29.270 Samuel Roberts: Okay, great.
1248 01:32:31.330 ⇒ 01:32:34.939 Samuel Roberts: So, we just sent that to Mika, Eric, I’m on…
1249 01:32:37.130 ⇒ 01:32:43.380 Samuel Roberts: And then, yeah, just message the default channel, and just let them know, like, we think we can do it that way.
1250 01:32:47.720 ⇒ 01:32:48.890 Samuel Roberts: Oh, good, okay.
1251 01:32:51.240 ⇒ 01:32:51.920 Samuel Roberts: Right.
1252 01:32:52.090 ⇒ 01:32:55.260 Samuel Roberts: Okay, I probably need to run now, I think…
1253 01:32:55.260 ⇒ 01:32:56.609 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1254 01:32:56.610 ⇒ 01:32:58.620 Samuel Roberts: No, you’re good, you’re good, you’re fine, you’re fine.
1255 01:32:59.090 ⇒ 01:33:02.930 Samuel Roberts: But yeah, if there’s anything else, let me know, but I’ll probably be offline in a little while, so…
1256 01:33:02.930 ⇒ 01:33:05.229 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, okay. Thank you so much for your time.
1257 01:33:05.230 ⇒ 01:33:08.290 Samuel Roberts: Alright, yeah, no problem. I’ll talk to you tomorrow. I’m glad we got through some of this.
1258 01:33:08.290 ⇒ 01:33:10.869 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Okay, thank you. Bye.
1259 01:33:11.130 ⇒ 01:33:11.820 Samuel Roberts: Bye.