Meeting Title: Team Restructuring and Role Adjustments Sync Date: 2025-08-28 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng
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1 00:10:23.490 ⇒ 00:10:24.629 Robert Tseng: Hey, Henry.
2 00:10:25.210 ⇒ 00:10:27.290 Robert Tseng: Good, I’m, yeah.
3 00:10:36.620 ⇒ 00:10:37.370 Robert Tseng: Okay.
4 00:10:37.780 ⇒ 00:10:42.189 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, if we bring him in, we would basically bench Andrew.
5 00:10:42.330 ⇒ 00:10:43.970 Robert Tseng: Do you think we can do that?
6 00:10:45.290 ⇒ 00:10:46.110 Robert Tseng: Okay.
7 00:10:46.300 ⇒ 00:10:47.380 Robert Tseng: …
8 00:10:55.780 ⇒ 00:10:59.049 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think so. I… yeah.
9 00:11:03.870 ⇒ 00:11:04.690 Robert Tseng: Okay.
10 00:11:17.700 ⇒ 00:11:20.419 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, I mean, I think the…
11 00:11:22.060 ⇒ 00:11:25.850 Robert Tseng: basically, Vasht… so, I mean, I need to… I’m gonna…
12 00:11:26.210 ⇒ 00:11:29.890 Robert Tseng: after this call, I’m meeting with, the other
13 00:11:30.250 ⇒ 00:11:37.989 Robert Tseng: managers on our team, so we’ll make the decision there, but it looks like we’re… we’re, yeah, we’re… we’re switching…
14 00:11:38.300 ⇒ 00:11:44.640 Robert Tseng: Annie’s out, Vashtiv is out, and we’re gonna wind down Andrew. And, I think…
15 00:11:48.390 ⇒ 00:11:49.610 Robert Tseng: Oh, can you hear me?
16 00:11:52.880 ⇒ 00:11:59.489 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, I mean, the Andrew… I mean, I want Zoran to come in, so…
17 00:12:00.630 ⇒ 00:12:04.510 Robert Tseng: I mean, I don’t really think Andrew’s doing that much. I think…
18 00:12:04.670 ⇒ 00:12:12.360 Robert Tseng: his QA is pretty slow, and I don’t really think he’s been making many recommendations, so I don’t really see a problem with Zaran being able to step in.
19 00:12:12.620 ⇒ 00:12:15.239 Robert Tseng: For Annie’s work.
20 00:12:16.300 ⇒ 00:12:28.040 Robert Tseng: we’re gonna… I mean, I’m off next week. I’m… I’m, like, off, but not really off. Like, I’m gonna be able to do very little, but, like, it’s gonna come back to me, pretty much, until…
21 00:12:28.080 ⇒ 00:12:39.550 Robert Tseng: Until we can replace, her. But basically, the next person we’re trying to bring in is gonna be somebody who can do all… who can do, all three, so…
22 00:12:39.780 ⇒ 00:12:52.999 Robert Tseng: I… yeah, I don’t think there’s a backfill for Annie yet, but it’s just… yeah, it’s just not gonna… it’s not gonna work out right now, because she’s only staffed on one client, and she’s actually our most expensive person, so it just, like, doesn’t make sense.
23 00:12:54.510 ⇒ 00:12:55.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
24 00:13:00.640 ⇒ 00:13:09.400 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so, I mean, we can… we can talk about that. Like, I think there is gonna be… there’s gonna be a range of things to do, …
25 00:13:10.420 ⇒ 00:13:12.450 Robert Tseng: Let me see if I can…
26 00:13:12.800 ⇒ 00:13:16.620 Robert Tseng: I was, like, modeling out, like, the stuff to the team.
27 00:13:16.870 ⇒ 00:13:18.640 Robert Tseng: Financial models…
28 00:13:23.600 ⇒ 00:13:24.450 Robert Tseng: Okay.
29 00:13:26.540 ⇒ 00:13:34.359 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I… I think there might be a world where, in the short term, where we might ask you to move… bump up to what you…
30 00:13:34.590 ⇒ 00:13:39.080 Robert Tseng: Because you’re… what are you at, 30 between the two default and, …
31 00:13:39.270 ⇒ 00:13:43.510 Robert Tseng: Or what do you… I gotta… sorry, I don’t… 25? Okay.
32 00:13:43.950 ⇒ 00:13:48.379 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so if we need… we can… we can bump you up to…
33 00:13:49.740 ⇒ 00:13:54.220 Robert Tseng: I guess we can just say we can bump you up to 30, and…
34 00:13:54.550 ⇒ 00:13:59.150 Robert Tseng: I mean, I want to bump you up to 40, but I think there’s kind of just, like, a…
35 00:13:59.950 ⇒ 00:14:02.780 Robert Tseng: I don’t… I guess we were gonna wait until September, but…
36 00:14:03.110 ⇒ 00:14:22.419 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if you feel like you need to… if you need to bump… if you need to do 40 to kind of cover for Annie, especially for this next week, just because, like, I’m not gonna be, like, as available, I’m literally gonna be in… in Kyrgyzstan, so, like, there’s… I don’t know how much, like, fingers to keys that data work I’m gonna really be able to do, but…
37 00:14:22.610 ⇒ 00:14:24.380 Robert Tseng: I do think that…
38 00:14:24.700 ⇒ 00:14:33.639 Robert Tseng: we’re gonna basically try to make it work just between you, me, and Dave Milani. Amber’s time is gonna continue to PM, but…
39 00:14:33.750 ⇒ 00:14:41.390 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think… I… I think this team has just been running too… too, too many people, and I am trying to…
40 00:14:41.510 ⇒ 00:14:43.029 Robert Tseng: Kind of pare it down.
41 00:15:01.150 ⇒ 00:15:09.700 Robert Tseng: Yeah, Annie stops tomorrow, actually, so I pretty much told her to pause on everything. She’s just gonna… I mean, she should be spending her time only
42 00:15:09.930 ⇒ 00:15:14.610 Robert Tseng: recording stuff and doing knowledge transfer. That’s, the way, show for her.
43 00:15:14.800 ⇒ 00:15:16.550 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
44 00:15:17.070 ⇒ 00:15:18.090 Robert Tseng: So…
45 00:15:21.250 ⇒ 00:15:22.380 Robert Tseng: …
46 00:15:22.890 ⇒ 00:15:33.090 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I think that would be between you, you and Awash, and then, I mean, I’m gonna… I’m gonna be on life. I’m gonna overlap for just a few hours a day, it’s kind of… I’m gonna… yeah, I’m gonna do what I can, but…
47 00:15:33.870 ⇒ 00:15:34.620 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
48 00:15:54.710 ⇒ 00:15:55.540 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
49 00:15:56.510 ⇒ 00:15:57.370 Robert Tseng: Okay.
50 00:15:59.370 ⇒ 00:16:00.719 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we’ll do that.
51 00:16:16.600 ⇒ 00:16:24.870 Robert Tseng: Okay, yeah, I mean, the next panel stuff, it’s renewal’s on the end of month, so we do need to make a decision on that, so I will be… I… I can… I can review that.
52 00:16:25.130 ⇒ 00:16:25.910 Robert Tseng: Okay.
53 00:16:30.410 ⇒ 00:16:31.180 Robert Tseng: Okay.
54 00:16:42.050 ⇒ 00:16:47.289 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, the Zoran stuff will kick it off next week, so no rush to finish that this week.
55 00:16:55.130 ⇒ 00:17:04.080 Robert Tseng: Yeah, yeah, and I think with the revert, it’s fine, like, we’ll have to just manage for what it is now. Yeah, and then we can… we can do the edge layer thing next week.
56 00:17:12.410 ⇒ 00:17:32.410 Robert Tseng: So, I guess on that note, it’s like, yeah, I mean, he keeps telling Josh that, like, oh, he can’t run Facebook ads. Like, can he really… is he really blind to running ads? Like, I don’t understand, like, how is he still blind? We… we have all these conversions that we’ve been sending to the Pixel, like, how is he not able to allocate funds? Like, I don’t… I don’t really understand his… his dilemma.
57 00:17:40.860 ⇒ 00:17:41.710 Robert Tseng: Okay.
58 00:17:41.830 ⇒ 00:17:51.810 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, before he was just, like, he was just… there was, like, unattributed, spend, or whatever. Now it’s just back to the baseline. It was what it was before.
59 00:17:52.060 ⇒ 00:17:52.930 Robert Tseng: …
60 00:17:59.650 ⇒ 00:18:06.689 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but he’s saying that the CPM… the CPAs are off, so whatever that… like, he just thinks that they’re inflated or whatever, so…
61 00:18:06.900 ⇒ 00:18:12.429 Robert Tseng: Or actually, they’re… they’re deflated, like, they’re cheaper than they actually are. That’s… that was his problem with it.
62 00:18:23.890 ⇒ 00:18:37.960 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but, like, the whole point of, like, the whole point of us doing the server-side conversions and sending that into the North Beam… well, yeah, within the platform, it should be… it should be right, but then there’s this whole deduplication, like, stuff that Andrew’s saying.
63 00:18:37.960 ⇒ 00:18:45.140 Robert Tseng: they’re only getting 5%, right? I’m like, Andrew, this is your job. How can it be 5%? Like, why is… what are you… what are you guys doing? But, like.
64 00:18:45.360 ⇒ 00:18:46.330 Robert Tseng: …
65 00:18:46.870 ⇒ 00:18:54.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, that sounds terrible. Like, if he… if he can’t… if… that means we’re… we’re running into the same problem, where there’s just more, …
66 00:18:55.190 ⇒ 00:19:01.569 Robert Tseng: like, the number of orders is just gonna be higher than it actually… than it actually is. …
67 00:19:12.930 ⇒ 00:19:22.769 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, I think he’s doing great on, Ellie. I think he’s been a lot more proactive with providing recommendations, whereas, like, Andrew is just more of, like.
68 00:19:23.870 ⇒ 00:19:36.019 Robert Tseng: hey, can you QA this? And he does it, and that’s all… that’s all. So, like, I don’t really like… I’m not really that much of a fan of Andrew right now, so… I do think Zoran is able to do it, like, but I guess…
69 00:19:36.210 ⇒ 00:19:42.729 Robert Tseng: once again, like, I’m not gonna be directly managing him on that project. It would be you to bring him into it.
70 00:19:52.820 ⇒ 00:19:53.610 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
71 00:19:56.300 ⇒ 00:19:57.080 Robert Tseng: Okay.
72 00:20:02.060 ⇒ 00:20:03.960 Robert Tseng: Alright, thank you, appreciate it.
73 00:20:04.370 ⇒ 00:20:05.050 Robert Tseng: Bye.