Meeting Title: Amplitude Data Integration Standup Date: 2025-08-14 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Henry Zhao, Giselle Agot
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1 00:00:18.490 ⇒ 00:00:19.990 Uttam Kumaran: Hello?
2 00:00:20.820 ⇒ 00:00:22.150 Henry Zhao: Hey, what’s up? How’s it going?
3 00:00:22.150 ⇒ 00:00:23.550 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, good, how are you?
4 00:00:23.790 ⇒ 00:00:24.440 Henry Zhao: Good evening.
5 00:00:25.750 ⇒ 00:00:31.470 Uttam Kumaran: Cool, yeah, I know we have our meeting later, so let me know, …
6 00:00:31.980 ⇒ 00:00:37.339 Uttam Kumaran: What your thoughts are for For that meeting and, anything you need from me today.
7 00:00:37.700 ⇒ 00:00:40.780 Henry Zhao: Nothing from you, except for the question I asked this morning, …
8 00:00:41.280 ⇒ 00:00:48.609 Henry Zhao: I’m just gonna go over the events with Justin to just make sure if he’s able to implement those. If not, we’ll figure out what we need to get those into Amplitude.
9 00:00:48.950 ⇒ 00:00:51.359 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, cool, and you’re DMing him directly?
10 00:00:51.360 ⇒ 00:00:56.719 Henry Zhao: I’m meaning… what do you mean, DMing him directly? I… Just waiting till the meeting.
11 00:00:57.130 ⇒ 00:01:01.690 Uttam Kumaran: Like, in order to schedule the meeting, did you DM them directly, or, like… Yeah, yeah, I did.
12 00:01:01.730 ⇒ 00:01:03.329 Henry Zhao: Okay, alright, great.
13 00:01:03.470 ⇒ 00:01:15.030 Uttam Kumaran: So yeah, I think what we can do is we can see how we want to sort of collaborate on this. I think the one thing that I wanted to see was whether we can start on, like, one of those, like, a similar analytics
14 00:01:15.240 ⇒ 00:01:21.170 Uttam Kumaran: type document, kind of like similar format to what Robert set up for… Yep.
15 00:01:21.620 ⇒ 00:01:23.990 Henry Zhao: Yep, I can even maybe create that today before the meeting.
16 00:01:23.990 ⇒ 00:01:36.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’d be great, and that… because then we can start to use that as a guide. I’m pretty sure we’ll start to use that for statuses across whether events are created, so yeah, if you don’t mind creating that before the meeting, that would be great. Let me know, I can review.
17 00:01:37.060 ⇒ 00:01:38.240 Henry Zhao: Okay, yeah, that sounds good.
18 00:01:38.760 ⇒ 00:01:49.390 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. And I know, Mustapa’s out today, so we met on Signal stuff yesterday, so I feel pretty… I think he’ll be able to finish that up tomorrow. Okay.
19 00:01:50.940 ⇒ 00:01:53.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and I think, … Yeah, that’s.
20 00:01:53.990 ⇒ 00:02:01.429 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I was… I was just… the morning, I was just asking, like, if the stuff in clay and stuff like that have, like, firmographic data, then we can just get it from there.
21 00:02:01.820 ⇒ 00:02:18.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I think that we’re gonna have to decide where to get it from. Like, I think either way, we’re gonna have to enrich that one way or another. I’m not sure what the source of truth is, but I think for Amplitude’s sake, the biggest thing is, like, can we just get whatever user properties they already collect?
22 00:02:19.120 ⇒ 00:02:19.630 Uttam Kumaran: ….
23 00:02:19.630 ⇒ 00:02:22.220 Henry Zhao: Yeah, but it’s very basic. It’s just, like, country.
24 00:02:22.460 ⇒ 00:02:24.410 Henry Zhao: Stuff that’s not really that useful, so….
25 00:02:24.410 ⇒ 00:02:31.149 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so what we can do is, after… as long as we show that, then I can get approval to enrich further. We can use Click
26 00:02:31.560 ⇒ 00:02:36.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, use… use John and Bastry, use Clearbit, and… or sort of get that.
27 00:02:36.800 ⇒ 00:02:42.089 Henry Zhao: We could tell Caitlin, like, these are the things that we have from Amplitude, like, if we want more, here’s where we could get it, and here’s what we would get.
28 00:02:42.090 ⇒ 00:02:51.200 Uttam Kumaran: Exactly, yeah, once we… once we have that document set up, we can tag, like, hey, these are… basically, we want to look at status, like, is it available in the data?
29 00:02:51.200 ⇒ 00:03:03.230 Uttam Kumaran: Is it… and then why not? Like, is it because we don’t have it, or is it because, like, events not set up? If the event’s set up, okay, where can we go look at that? So, that document will kind of just be, like, the guiding thing throughout this whole piece. …
30 00:03:04.480 ⇒ 00:03:15.960 Uttam Kumaran: So, yeah, I think that’s kind of it. Yeah, keep asking me any questions. We’re kind of coming at this from multiple angles, like, we’re… we have one thing that’s working on… because they’re switching up their product a lot, so….
31 00:03:15.960 ⇒ 00:03:16.510 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
32 00:03:16.510 ⇒ 00:03:26.270 Uttam Kumaran: I just said, look, look, I want to get, like, just basic user data. That’s gonna take them another 2 months or 3 months to, like, get their new product stuff out, so we have plenty of time.
33 00:03:26.270 ⇒ 00:03:38.839 Uttam Kumaran: The second thing is we’re also helping their sales team on, like, generally, like, better targeting for, like, more, like, not free accounts, like, not, like, PLG-related stuff, more accounts where they assign a salesperson to go expand.
34 00:03:39.040 ⇒ 00:03:50.889 Uttam Kumaran: So, we’ll be collecting some data there, and then I also got, like, an export of all of their current product data, so I’m gonna work with Mustafa to get that loaded into a simple warehouse so that we can.
35 00:03:50.890 ⇒ 00:03:53.729 Henry Zhao: Can I… can I get that copy as well, actually, to take a look?
36 00:03:53.730 ⇒ 00:04:01.919 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it’s in a Google Drive, so I’m gonna load it into, like, a Mother Duck instance, and start to… I’ll give everyone access once that’s there.
37 00:04:02.190 ⇒ 00:04:02.920 Henry Zhao: Okay.
38 00:04:03.860 ⇒ 00:04:08.200 Uttam Kumaran: And then hopefully we’ll have queries, at least on, like, all the core objects.
39 00:04:08.860 ⇒ 00:04:09.570 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
40 00:04:09.570 ⇒ 00:04:14.200 Uttam Kumaran: Talk about what reporting’s gonna come out of Amplitude, what reporting’s gonna come out of elsewhere.
41 00:04:14.300 ⇒ 00:04:14.830 Uttam Kumaran: ….
42 00:04:14.830 ⇒ 00:04:15.240 Henry Zhao: Okay.
43 00:04:15.240 ⇒ 00:04:26.139 Uttam Kumaran: need to move stuff into Amplitude, we can also do that as well. So we’re kind of coming at it from multiple angles, so as long as you’re… you have a good sense of the product analytics side, then I feel pretty good about the other two.
44 00:04:26.900 ⇒ 00:04:27.920 Henry Zhao: Okay, sounds good.
45 00:04:28.820 ⇒ 00:04:30.250 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Anything else?
46 00:04:30.250 ⇒ 00:04:39.410 Henry Zhao: And I’m just thinking out loud, Caitlin said that right now we only pay users, which I guess makes sense, because at first I was like, I’m not paying a user right now, but that’s because I think you gave me a license, right?
47 00:04:39.650 ⇒ 00:04:41.490 Uttam Kumaran: For… for default?
48 00:04:41.490 ⇒ 00:04:42.640 Henry Zhao: Where did you fall, yeah,
49 00:04:42.640 ⇒ 00:04:43.340 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
50 00:04:43.830 ⇒ 00:04:47.810 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so every paid user is seeing what I’m seeing right now, basically. Yes.
51 00:04:47.970 ⇒ 00:04:51.729 Henry Zhao: Okay, okay. I was just worried if there were any, like, features that needed to be unlocked by paying more.
52 00:04:51.730 ⇒ 00:04:52.200 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no.
53 00:04:52.200 ⇒ 00:04:53.430 Henry Zhao: That’s not the case.
54 00:04:53.430 ⇒ 00:05:04.099 Uttam Kumaran: Currently, it’s all, like, kind of… yeah, currently it’s all open. Okay. So yeah, we should be good. And then, I basically said as soon as they have, like, a test instance for the new product.
55 00:05:04.150 ⇒ 00:05:08.850 Henry Zhao: we should start ripping that. So, one thing that could also be good to talk to Justin about is, like.
56 00:05:08.850 ⇒ 00:05:13.480 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, can we also start architecting events on the next version of the product?
57 00:05:13.710 ⇒ 00:05:14.140 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
58 00:05:14.140 ⇒ 00:05:14.880 Uttam Kumaran: ….
59 00:05:15.140 ⇒ 00:05:16.510 Henry Zhao: We have, like, mock-ups and stuff like that already.
60 00:05:16.510 ⇒ 00:05:20.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, exactly, like, I don’t know if they have a demo instance yet, or, like, what the situation is.
61 00:05:21.240 ⇒ 00:05:23.470 Henry Zhao: Yeah, but it would be pretty similar, right? So….
62 00:05:23.620 ⇒ 00:05:42.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so… okay, cool, yeah, and basically I think that, you know, hopefully we can see something next week, and then just start to have the conversation again. They’re so early, I don’t think they’re looking at any product analytics data, really. Right. I think there’s gonna be a lot of people interested in it, so I want to get it right, because as soon as people start asking questions, our time is gonna go there, so….
63 00:05:42.740 ⇒ 00:05:43.480 Henry Zhao: Yeah, exactly.
64 00:05:43.570 ⇒ 00:05:58.629 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, we can build a good relationship with Justin, and also see from him if there’s anyone else we need to loop in. Probably my… I may ask to see whether we want to create another channel, just for product analytics stuff, I don’t know. I kind of like having everything in one channel, but
65 00:05:58.920 ⇒ 00:06:02.949 Uttam Kumaran: It may get noisy, so we’ll see. We can talk to Justin about that.
66 00:06:03.140 ⇒ 00:06:03.790 Henry Zhao: Okay.
67 00:06:05.450 ⇒ 00:06:07.000 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool.
68 00:06:07.550 ⇒ 00:06:08.289 Uttam Kumaran: ….
69 00:06:09.430 ⇒ 00:06:11.370 Henry Zhao: I had another question, but I’m trying to remember it.
70 00:06:12.960 ⇒ 00:06:14.609 Henry Zhao: I can’t, I can’t remember.
71 00:06:14.610 ⇒ 00:06:18.600 Uttam Kumaran: Justin did an RSVP, so do you want to just, like, maybe send him a quick, like… Yeah.
72 00:06:19.160 ⇒ 00:06:19.899 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, are we good friends?
73 00:06:19.900 ⇒ 00:06:22.580 Henry Zhao: But you’ll be able to make it, right? Because your calendar was blocked at that time, but….
74 00:06:22.580 ⇒ 00:06:24.180 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna, I’m gonna be there, I’ll be there.
75 00:06:24.180 ⇒ 00:06:27.229 Henry Zhao: Okay, cool. Okay. I think it was after your working hours, yeah.
76 00:06:27.390 ⇒ 00:06:35.269 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’ll be there, and then if you… even if, like, after that meeting, if we want to meet to just, like, create any tickets or regroup, we could do that.
77 00:06:36.300 ⇒ 00:06:41.459 Uttam Kumaran: And then we’ll record that meeting. I know, Giselle, it’ll be late your time, so we can record that meeting, so you have that.
78 00:06:45.840 ⇒ 00:06:47.349 Giselle Agot: Could I just, like, after the meeting.
79 00:06:47.350 ⇒ 00:06:47.960 Henry Zhao: Oh.
80 00:06:48.510 ⇒ 00:06:54.850 Giselle Agot: Tomorrow morning, my time. Can I just do the transcript, and then just do the linear task?
81 00:06:54.850 ⇒ 00:07:01.970 Uttam Kumaran: Totally, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we’ll send an update after the meeting about, like, what steps are needed. Yeah, no problem finding that.
82 00:07:05.740 ⇒ 00:07:13.680 Giselle Agot: And then, for this to stand up, by the way, Autumn, it’s your Zoom that we’re using. Do you mind if you can just have me as the owner of this?
83 00:07:13.680 ⇒ 00:07:15.600 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll transfer it to you right after this.
84 00:07:15.910 ⇒ 00:07:16.810 Giselle Agot: Thank you.
85 00:07:16.950 ⇒ 00:07:17.620 Uttam Kumaran: No problem.
86 00:07:19.530 ⇒ 00:07:20.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, go ahead, Andrew.
87 00:07:22.000 ⇒ 00:07:23.390 Henry Zhao: Oh, nothing, I didn’t say anything.
88 00:07:24.940 ⇒ 00:07:26.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. …
89 00:07:27.850 ⇒ 00:07:32.639 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, alright, send me that doc when it’s ready, and then we can collab there, and then, yeah, talk to you later.
90 00:07:33.220 ⇒ 00:07:39.549 Henry Zhao: Also, right while I have you, it’s not work-related, just wanted to hear your thoughts or something. What are your thoughts on the… all that stuff that happened with the astronomers CEO?
91 00:07:40.050 ⇒ 00:07:44.039 Uttam Kumaran: Oh. … I….
92 00:07:44.040 ⇒ 00:07:45.619 Henry Zhao: They got a lot of free marketing from it.
93 00:07:45.620 ⇒ 00:07:50.569 Uttam Kumaran: they did get a lot of free marketing. The, product is okay, like.
94 00:07:51.140 ⇒ 00:07:55.289 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, it’s like a very famous product in data, so I’ve used it before.
95 00:07:56.010 ⇒ 00:07:56.949 Henry Zhao: Okay, you’ve muted before, got it.
96 00:07:56.950 ⇒ 00:08:00.009 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve used Astronomer before, yeah, I mean, like, it’s kind of…
97 00:08:00.260 ⇒ 00:08:06.039 Uttam Kumaran: like, a pretty big product in terms of, like, airflow orchestration. I mean, it’s kind of… it’s kind of like, …
98 00:08:06.590 ⇒ 00:08:11.769 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, it’s pretty insane, like, I just kind of, like, feel bad for that whole company.
99 00:08:12.380 ⇒ 00:08:13.160 Henry Zhao: Yeah.
100 00:08:13.160 ⇒ 00:08:17.120 Uttam Kumaran: They also, you know, they, you know, they’re kind of a tale of, like, VC…
101 00:08:17.250 ⇒ 00:08:22.860 Uttam Kumaran: back businesses that didn’t end up growing. What they… what they did, they raised a shitload of money.
102 00:08:23.100 ⇒ 00:08:42.229 Uttam Kumaran: And then they didn’t grow fast enough, so they actually fired their founders. Well, they actually, like, they voted their founders, and then brought in this guy. This guy’s, like, a professional CEO. And then now the founders are back in the helm, but I’m pretty sure the founders don’t have much ownership anymore.
103 00:08:42.440 ⇒ 00:08:43.039 Uttam Kumaran: And….
104 00:08:43.049 ⇒ 00:08:47.169 Henry Zhao: still raising funding? Like, I was just wondering if, like, it’s good… that was good for the investors, or bad for the investors?
105 00:08:47.170 ⇒ 00:08:51.609 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t think that company is, like, above water, really.
106 00:08:51.760 ⇒ 00:08:55.610 Henry Zhao: Oh, okay. They’ve raised so much money, and that product is not, like….
107 00:08:55.820 ⇒ 00:08:59.359 Uttam Kumaran: it’s not, like, that impressive. Like, there’s a lot of other competition.
108 00:08:59.470 ⇒ 00:09:00.810 Henry Zhao: ….
109 00:09:01.740 ⇒ 00:09:11.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but it’s, it’s like, it’s kind of drama. Anytime there’s drama in, like, the data world, yeah, like, a lot of people… a bunch of people texted me that day, like, do you know this drama? I’m like, yeah, I know them very.
110 00:09:13.980 ⇒ 00:09:17.389 Henry Zhao: Just don’t want to get caught, like… like….
111 00:09:17.390 ⇒ 00:09:22.320 Uttam Kumaran: with stuff like that. I don’t know, it’s, like, such a weird thing, and it went so viral, like….
112 00:09:22.320 ⇒ 00:09:27.750 Henry Zhao: Yeah, I was on the crossroads of, like, for the company, was it good or bad because of the marketing, but then it’s not a good marketing.
113 00:09:27.750 ⇒ 00:09:33.200 Uttam Kumaran: They took advantage of the marketing, which I guess is, like, respectful, but it’s also kind of like…
114 00:09:34.680 ⇒ 00:09:35.730 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know.
115 00:09:36.670 ⇒ 00:09:37.200 Uttam Kumaran: law.
116 00:09:38.290 ⇒ 00:09:40.090 Uttam Kumaran: Especially because she was head of HR.
117 00:09:40.900 ⇒ 00:09:42.319 Henry Zhao: Oh, yeah, that’s true, yeah.
118 00:09:42.650 ⇒ 00:09:43.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
119 00:09:44.900 ⇒ 00:09:50.150 Henry Zhao: All right, well, I’ll talk to you later at the later meeting today. I’ll send you the Excel when I have it later today.
120 00:09:50.650 ⇒ 00:09:52.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, decent.
121 00:09:52.540 ⇒ 00:09:53.240 Henry Zhao: you guys.
122 00:09:53.240 ⇒ 00:09:54.479 Uttam Kumaran: Thanks, everyone. Bye.