Meeting Title: Project Managers Weekly Sync Date: 2025-08-11 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Awaish Kumar, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:18.800 ⇒ 00:00:20.010 Uttam Kumaran: Hello.
2 00:00:23.090 ⇒ 00:00:24.070 Amber Lin: Hi!
3 00:00:26.380 ⇒ 00:00:27.610 Uttam Kumaran: How’s everything?
4 00:00:27.840 ⇒ 00:00:29.340 Amber Lin: I…
5 00:00:29.700 ⇒ 00:00:43.230 Amber Lin: lots of meetings. I was just talking with Giselle, talked with Rico earlier, and … I’ve been in meetings non-stop today, so I… I don’t have a brain right now.
6 00:00:45.270 ⇒ 00:00:49.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, hopefully it’s just mainly today, but I mean, I’m…
7 00:00:49.600 ⇒ 00:00:51.219 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess that’s kind of…
8 00:00:51.360 ⇒ 00:00:54.469 Uttam Kumaran: some of the subject of today, but yeah, I feel like…
9 00:00:54.850 ⇒ 00:01:00.489 Uttam Kumaran: It’s still help… I think… I think it’s been helpful for me to get a lay of the land on everything today, and also…
10 00:01:00.920 ⇒ 00:01:10.839 Uttam Kumaran: I’m basically able to now, like, not try to go to a lot of stuff during the week, but I think part of what you’re gonna see me doing on that meeting is putting pressure on more people to be like.
11 00:01:10.840 ⇒ 00:01:15.220 Amber Lin: Yeah, and … I like that, or else nothing, like….
12 00:01:15.460 ⇒ 00:01:21.820 Uttam Kumaran: You have… you’re the only person that has enough authority for the pressure to work. I need you to do that.
13 00:01:22.240 ⇒ 00:01:22.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
14 00:01:23.160 ⇒ 00:01:32.539 Uttam Kumaran: And that’s why it’s like, the meeting notes and all that is accountability. Even for people that are new, I don’t need them to be right, but I need them to say something.
15 00:01:32.660 ⇒ 00:01:33.550 Uttam Kumaran: No.
16 00:01:33.940 ⇒ 00:01:37.840 Uttam Kumaran: And so I want to teach people that, like, something is better than nothing.
17 00:01:38.430 ⇒ 00:01:42.670 Uttam Kumaran: … You know, so that’s… that’s what’s most important to me.
18 00:01:47.150 ⇒ 00:01:47.950 Uttam Kumaran: …
19 00:01:48.240 ⇒ 00:01:55.019 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I mean, do we want to take a sec, or we can just jump into topics. I know it’s kind of already… we’ve already reviewed a lot today, so…
20 00:01:58.960 ⇒ 00:01:59.620 Uttam Kumaran: …
21 00:02:00.460 ⇒ 00:02:08.710 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think my… probably my first thing was just gonna be, like, on Giselle, like, what do you… what do you think is the move? Like, how do you feel about…
22 00:02:08.940 ⇒ 00:02:12.100 Uttam Kumaran: her taking on stuff. Is it week 1 or Week 2, or what is this?
23 00:02:12.100 ⇒ 00:02:18.080 Amber Lin: … Week 1. Last week was her week one, and I think she joined on Tuesday?
24 00:02:18.080 ⇒ 00:02:18.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
25 00:02:18.520 ⇒ 00:02:31.979 Amber Lin: So, I do want to give her some time, though I did get Rico on Interlude, I just want a comparison. They are very similar products with the same people. I need to see how differently they are.
26 00:02:32.790 ⇒ 00:02:41.330 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Yeah, does she have, like, clear objectives? Because this is like, you know, when she was like, yeah, I’m still reviewing the tickets, I’m like, what does that even mean?
27 00:02:41.330 ⇒ 00:02:55.110 Amber Lin: I don’t know. I… well, maybe… I’ll take the blame if there wasn’t any objections before. I gave her objectives today, so I need to see the next 2-3 days if it gets better.
28 00:02:55.710 ⇒ 00:02:58.659 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, there were objectives before, like, I said, like.
29 00:02:58.880 ⇒ 00:03:05.449 Uttam Kumaran: tell me when I can start to hand stuff. It’s… I’m just finding that maybe she was not as, like.
30 00:03:05.910 ⇒ 00:03:09.520 Uttam Kumaran: Experience as we thought, because this seems, like, not that hard.
31 00:03:09.990 ⇒ 00:03:15.290 Amber Lin: Yeah, I know. I don’t know what the 4 years of project management experience went to.
32 00:03:17.640 ⇒ 00:03:24.679 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So, I mean, maybe I’m gonna send her a note… I’m gonna send her a note today and just ask pretty candidly.
33 00:03:25.530 ⇒ 00:03:26.350 Uttam Kumaran: Like.
34 00:03:26.920 ⇒ 00:03:28.439 Amber Lin: Can she handle this?
35 00:03:29.030 ⇒ 00:03:34.330 Uttam Kumaran: like, where’s… like, where has the time gone? Because I’m not seeing any notes in Slack.
36 00:03:34.990 ⇒ 00:03:38.279 Uttam Kumaran: I’m… Don’t see her in many meetings.
37 00:03:38.850 ⇒ 00:03:43.800 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t see her asking any questions, so… I’ll send that, and I’ll put some more pressure on.
38 00:03:43.800 ⇒ 00:03:45.060 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah.
39 00:03:45.580 ⇒ 00:03:51.480 Uttam Kumaran: But then I kinda wanna, like… if it’s not gonna work out, I don’t wanna… I don’t wanna waste more of your time, so….
40 00:03:51.480 ⇒ 00:04:00.209 Amber Lin: Yeah. It is helpful for me to set up training. Like, as I train her, I’m writing everything down,
41 00:04:00.680 ⇒ 00:04:02.810 Amber Lin: Like, it’s gonna…
42 00:04:02.930 ⇒ 00:04:09.830 Amber Lin: it’s gonna make the next person easier, because I think we’ll have more coordinators in the future anyways, …
43 00:04:10.040 ⇒ 00:04:25.369 Amber Lin: now I gave her a clear list of responsibilities. I don’t know how you can mess this up if it’s in front of you, but I booked a meeting for the PM team daily to sync, because Rico’s also new, and then Giselle’s also new, so….
44 00:04:25.370 ⇒ 00:04:25.870 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
45 00:04:26.620 ⇒ 00:04:27.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
46 00:04:27.670 ⇒ 00:04:35.960 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I guess I was gonna ask about, like, the only other person, candidate we have that, like, kind of was okay was Usama. Should we just, like, kick that off?
47 00:04:37.350 ⇒ 00:04:41.680 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’m talking to Usama tomorrow.
48 00:04:41.890 ⇒ 00:04:47.740 Amber Lin: Any particular thing you want to ask, and then we can kick it off for a trial. I don’t mind.
49 00:04:47.740 ⇒ 00:04:49.930 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know, I’m almost just like…
50 00:04:50.250 ⇒ 00:04:53.989 Uttam Kumaran: I think we just gotta cycle more people and try, like…
51 00:04:55.370 ⇒ 00:04:59.520 Uttam Kumaran: And just be quicker to say if things aren’t working out, you know, so….
52 00:04:59.660 ⇒ 00:05:04.850 Amber Lin: Yeah, we’ll take the two… like, the end of this week is the end of her two-week trial period.
53 00:05:05.250 ⇒ 00:05:09.949 Amber Lin: You see, we have an initial conclusion now, and then we’ll conclude it by the end of this week.
54 00:05:11.050 ⇒ 00:05:15.060 Uttam Kumaran: So tomorrow, you want to let me know if, like, we want to move forward on Usama?
55 00:05:15.060 ⇒ 00:05:22.689 Amber Lin: Sure. Yeah, I’m talking with him, at my 1230, so it’s, like, right before this time.
56 00:05:23.330 ⇒ 00:05:23.990 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
57 00:05:24.640 ⇒ 00:05:25.240 Amber Lin: Yeah.
58 00:05:26.230 ⇒ 00:05:27.140 Amber Lin: Okay.
59 00:05:28.140 ⇒ 00:05:34.849 Amber Lin: And then Emily got back to me, she booked a call on Friday again, so I’ll talk to her on Friday.
60 00:05:35.040 ⇒ 00:05:38.339 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really? On Friday again? Why can’t she talk to you earlier?
61 00:05:38.340 ⇒ 00:05:39.940 Amber Lin: I don’t know.
62 00:05:40.060 ⇒ 00:05:41.659 Amber Lin: I would like to.
63 00:05:43.110 ⇒ 00:05:44.570 Amber Lin: I can ask.
64 00:05:45.730 ⇒ 00:05:48.660 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want to send a note just saying, like, hey, we’re…
65 00:05:49.530 ⇒ 00:05:54.350 Uttam Kumaran: We’re, like, we’re interviewing a lot of people for… like…
66 00:05:54.550 ⇒ 00:05:58.519 Uttam Kumaran: Couple roles, and we just want to make sure to talk to her, but…
67 00:05:58.720 ⇒ 00:06:06.199 Uttam Kumaran: like, by the end of this next week, it’ll be a different story. Do you want to just send her that note, or, like, you feel comfortable doing that?
68 00:06:06.590 ⇒ 00:06:11.140 Amber Lin: Yeah, I feel comfortable, I just need to find time on my calendar, that’s all.
69 00:06:11.490 ⇒ 00:06:14.859 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would just say, like, hey, is there any chance you could do…
70 00:06:15.090 ⇒ 00:06:17.759 Uttam Kumaran: Wednesday, or whatever, or something, because…
71 00:06:17.920 ⇒ 00:06:20.379 Uttam Kumaran: We’re interviewing a lot of people for this role, and….
72 00:06:20.700 ⇒ 00:06:21.430 Amber Lin: ….
73 00:06:21.430 ⇒ 00:06:26.390 Uttam Kumaran: We want to start to… if you’re a fit, we want to move you along, but… Like…
74 00:06:26.720 ⇒ 00:06:32.330 Uttam Kumaran: Otherwise, if… but also, if she, at that point, she’s like, I’m not interested, then it’s over. Like, I don’t want you to waste your time.
75 00:06:32.330 ⇒ 00:06:35.349 Amber Lin: Yeah, totally. Let me…
76 00:06:40.380 ⇒ 00:06:44.719 Amber Lin: Yeah, let me message morally.
77 00:06:47.520 ⇒ 00:06:53.370 Amber Lin: Alright… Yeah, keep talking, I’ll write the email.
78 00:06:53.810 ⇒ 00:06:54.500 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
79 00:06:54.730 ⇒ 00:06:57.259 Uttam Kumaran: And probably my only other question is, like.
80 00:06:57.710 ⇒ 00:07:01.610 Uttam Kumaran: I got approval from Robert to…
81 00:07:02.480 ⇒ 00:07:10.370 Uttam Kumaran: we’re planning to try to start Soledad next month, but I almost… we… we had a good call with Vixel today, and they basically said we should get a PM for the sales org.
82 00:07:10.570 ⇒ 00:07:11.480 Uttam Kumaran: Like…
83 00:07:12.330 ⇒ 00:07:14.790 Uttam Kumaran: And, I don’t know, like, this could be…
84 00:07:15.040 ⇒ 00:07:20.780 Uttam Kumaran: it could be Rico, but also, like, maybe this is what Soledad does, because she seems a lot more…
85 00:07:21.340 ⇒ 00:07:25.700 Uttam Kumaran: Like, forward and, like… …
86 00:07:26.270 ⇒ 00:07:33.880 Uttam Kumaran: like, she probably, I think, just, like, would have a larger sense of, like, ownership than any of the other folks on our team for sales right now.
87 00:07:33.880 ⇒ 00:07:34.600 Amber Lin: Huh?
88 00:07:34.600 ⇒ 00:07:40.680 Uttam Kumaran: So, I’m thinking, like, maybe she just, like, comes on… she’s coming on as sales coordinator, but… like…
89 00:07:40.820 ⇒ 00:07:47.969 Uttam Kumaran: Sid, Rob, like, everybody on that team is, like, very shy and, like, very quiet, like… Oh. We need, like, a leader.
90 00:07:48.790 ⇒ 00:07:49.520 Amber Lin: Okay.
91 00:07:49.520 ⇒ 00:07:55.209 Uttam Kumaran: Like, someone who’s, like, who’s basically doing project management, which is, like, where… where are these things happening, and, like.
92 00:07:55.570 ⇒ 00:07:57.180 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So….
93 00:07:57.770 ⇒ 00:08:12.179 Amber Lin: I can support her to get her on track for PMing technicals, like, PMing skills or things to look at. She needs to… she just needs to have the qualities of, like, she needs aggression and ambition and wanting to get things done.
94 00:08:12.380 ⇒ 00:08:12.920 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
95 00:08:12.920 ⇒ 00:08:17.060 Amber Lin: I would like to start a trial, because you don’t see it until you see someone work.
96 00:08:17.890 ⇒ 00:08:18.970 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
97 00:08:19.650 ⇒ 00:08:20.890 Uttam Kumaran: …
98 00:08:22.080 ⇒ 00:08:27.849 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and then I guess, I mean, let me see if… I want to see if Robert’s free just to talk about a couple things on Eden.
99 00:08:28.550 ⇒ 00:08:30.950 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, he’s thinking he’s doing something different.
100 00:08:39.570 ⇒ 00:08:45.449 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess I was gonna ask about, like, Amber, are you involved in these, like, the tagging stuff?
101 00:08:45.790 ⇒ 00:08:46.860 Amber Lin: …
102 00:08:47.520 ⇒ 00:08:58.439 Amber Lin: I’m managing them, I just sync with them, so I… now I finally know what they’re doing, so yes, I’ll keep… I’m keeping track, keeping tabs on them.
103 00:09:04.230 ⇒ 00:09:09.910 Amber Lin: But last week it was slow, because I had no clue, and I thought they were mature enough people.
104 00:09:10.770 ⇒ 00:09:12.790 Uttam Kumaran: Well, except what I’m asking is, like.
105 00:09:13.080 ⇒ 00:09:19.399 Uttam Kumaran: I think Robert mentioned that, like, there’s… it’s really slow, like, who… what is the… who is the… who’s to blame?
106 00:09:20.100 ⇒ 00:09:21.210 Amber Lin: …
107 00:09:24.370 ⇒ 00:09:28.220 Amber Lin: I… I would say the people on it has no ownership.
108 00:09:28.320 ⇒ 00:09:30.609 Amber Lin: they assume proper has ownership.
109 00:09:30.750 ⇒ 00:09:37.110 Amber Lin: And Robert is busy, and Robert shouldn’t be owning it, because that’s why we hired these new people.
110 00:09:38.350 ⇒ 00:09:39.850 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, ….
111 00:09:39.850 ⇒ 00:09:48.070 Amber Lin: So, I’m gonna step in and PM it and nudge them. If it doesn’t improve, I want someone else on the project.
112 00:09:48.470 ⇒ 00:09:51.929 Uttam Kumaran: So I have another… I have another person for you, like…
113 00:09:52.400 ⇒ 00:09:57.550 Uttam Kumaran: Do you want… do you think it’s worth doing for any longer, or should I just loop this person in?
114 00:09:58.410 ⇒ 00:10:14.480 Amber Lin: Well, we have… we have… so the team composition is this. Andrew is a consultant. He only audits it, valid… and he validates it, and he provides recommendations, but he doesn’t do the actual work.
115 00:10:14.480 ⇒ 00:10:14.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
116 00:10:14.860 ⇒ 00:10:27.699 Amber Lin: the subject matter expert, knowledge-wise, but which does the engineering. Henry does, like, other not-so-technical stuff. If this person can handle all of it, that would be awesome.
117 00:10:28.880 ⇒ 00:10:33.719 Uttam Kumaran: So, can I get… can I maybe show you something? Like, we got this back from, …
118 00:10:47.310 ⇒ 00:10:49.420 Uttam Kumaran: Here, I’m sending this link in Zoom.
119 00:10:49.560 ⇒ 00:10:54.059 Uttam Kumaran: If you look at the comments from this guy, Zoran, he’s… this is the guy that I’m thinking about.
120 00:10:54.250 ⇒ 00:10:58.030 Uttam Kumaran: I called him, he seemed pretty good, he also seemed, like, much more of, like, a…
121 00:10:58.890 ⇒ 00:11:01.989 Uttam Kumaran: seem like a high ownership person, that kind of wouldn’t BS.
122 00:11:02.760 ⇒ 00:11:05.410 Uttam Kumaran: … And…
123 00:11:08.720 ⇒ 00:11:10.870 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, take a look at his comments, like….
124 00:11:16.570 ⇒ 00:11:19.150 Amber Lin: Oh, it’s in the chat, let me go look at it.
125 00:11:19.320 ⇒ 00:11:20.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
126 00:11:56.810 ⇒ 00:12:00.999 Awaish Kumar: I added his comments, and one other thing is, he mentioned that
127 00:12:01.180 ⇒ 00:12:04.939 Awaish Kumar: he hasn’t worked on, basically, Northstream.
128 00:12:05.660 ⇒ 00:12:15.730 Awaish Kumar: And, … The immediate thing which… Henry is working on his… like, tracking YouTube’s better.
129 00:12:16.000 ⇒ 00:12:17.970 Awaish Kumar: In North Beam.
130 00:12:18.640 ⇒ 00:12:20.620 Awaish Kumar: To improve, like, …
131 00:12:25.050 ⇒ 00:12:28.789 Awaish Kumar: like, order attribution, like, on the L3 platform.
132 00:12:29.310 ⇒ 00:12:32.249 Awaish Kumar: And then we were CTL as well.
133 00:12:32.990 ⇒ 00:12:33.780 Awaish Kumar: True.
134 00:12:34.180 ⇒ 00:12:39.720 Awaish Kumar: Zoran… Although he has relevant experiences.
135 00:12:39.840 ⇒ 00:12:43.439 Awaish Kumar: He mentioned that not exactly worked on that platform.
136 00:12:44.020 ⇒ 00:12:45.229 Awaish Kumar: Just to highlight.
137 00:12:49.180 ⇒ 00:12:49.860 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
138 00:12:52.810 ⇒ 00:12:57.600 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, at this point, look, I just feel like Henry’s been, like, really disappointing.
139 00:12:57.820 ⇒ 00:13:02.549 Uttam Kumaran: So… I’m kind of, like, willing to try someone else.
140 00:13:03.020 ⇒ 00:13:05.479 Uttam Kumaran: Unless, like, he’s going to do the job, but….
141 00:13:06.580 ⇒ 00:13:07.450 Awaish Kumar: Interesting.
142 00:13:10.810 ⇒ 00:13:12.349 Uttam Kumaran: I’m not very happy.
143 00:13:17.910 ⇒ 00:13:27.059 Awaish Kumar: Yeah, So, like, none of the people we have right now in the list have worked on Northwind before.
144 00:13:27.260 ⇒ 00:13:30.070 Awaish Kumar: Even Andrew hasn’t worked on Northwind.
145 00:13:32.330 ⇒ 00:13:36.980 Uttam Kumaran: But I guess, like, we’re having the same conversation we had last week, which is, like, I just need to know, like.
146 00:13:38.400 ⇒ 00:13:45.019 Uttam Kumaran: If they’re the right people, Or not, like… for North Beam.
147 00:13:46.270 ⇒ 00:13:50.749 Uttam Kumaran: I, like, Zoran is the only person that he’s like, look, I haven’t done it, but, like.
148 00:13:52.550 ⇒ 00:13:56.289 Uttam Kumaran: We should be able to do it, so… I’m sort of like.
149 00:13:56.290 ⇒ 00:13:56.790 Awaish Kumar: Alright.
150 00:13:58.990 ⇒ 00:14:07.130 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t care at this point, I just, like, if those people are bad, then I want to get rid of them, and then bring in someone… bring in… just try someone else.
151 00:14:07.540 ⇒ 00:14:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: Versus, like, paying them.
152 00:14:10.560 ⇒ 00:14:12.350 Uttam Kumaran: That’s my perspective.
153 00:14:16.290 ⇒ 00:14:17.340 Amber Lin: Thanks.
154 00:14:17.340 ⇒ 00:14:18.080 Awaish Kumar: Yeah.
155 00:14:22.080 ⇒ 00:14:26.749 Awaish Kumar: like, we haven’t got so far with them, so I think it’s…
156 00:14:28.070 ⇒ 00:14:31.780 Awaish Kumar: It’s, it’s, like, it’s okay to try with someone.
157 00:14:34.130 ⇒ 00:14:36.559 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so as soon as I hear back from Zoran.
158 00:14:37.010 ⇒ 00:14:40.069 Uttam Kumaran: Is there, like, a one or two tickets you can just literally have them do?
159 00:14:40.690 ⇒ 00:14:42.009 Uttam Kumaran: That’s a sample.
160 00:14:44.310 ⇒ 00:14:46.680 Amber Lin: Let’s… let me check.
161 00:14:46.680 ⇒ 00:14:49.659 Awaish Kumar: I think Robert is pushing on nerve stuff.
162 00:14:50.400 ⇒ 00:14:57.989 Awaish Kumar: So… Any tickets related to North Korean, … a solution, like… Oh, he goes.
163 00:14:57.990 ⇒ 00:15:13.390 Amber Lin: earlier on Northbeam, it sounds like it’s the… well, from what Andrew and Henry said, it’s the server-side tracking, which is essentially what Polytomic is doing, so I’m lacking in terms of what we are doing about Northbeam.
164 00:15:13.650 ⇒ 00:15:16.189 Awaish Kumar: There are two things on the North Beam.
165 00:15:16.390 ⇒ 00:15:20.100 Awaish Kumar: One is… Reverse it tiering, right?
166 00:15:20.100 ⇒ 00:15:26.530 Amber Lin: So, one is that we’re pushing data to NordVM platform, and then there is other thing.
167 00:15:26.570 ⇒ 00:15:32.130 Awaish Kumar: on the Nord Stream platform when… where they have to work on UTM stuff, right?
168 00:15:32.130 ⇒ 00:15:32.740 Amber Lin: Okay.
169 00:15:33.050 ⇒ 00:15:36.000 Awaish Kumar: That’s… that’s not on polyatomic.
170 00:15:36.130 ⇒ 00:15:36.790 Awaish Kumar: That’s what I’m….
171 00:15:37.660 ⇒ 00:15:50.719 Amber Lin: Yeah, so a ticket we can give, which is right now currently assigned to Andrew, is to audit the North Bean tracking tags in Google Tag Manager. That’s something we can give to Zora.
172 00:15:54.940 ⇒ 00:15:57.710 Amber Lin: And then come up with whatever next steps.
173 00:16:03.080 ⇒ 00:16:03.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
174 00:16:03.950 ⇒ 00:16:08.630 Uttam Kumaran: So I guess, like, my point is, like, I’m gonna get… I’m gonna… I’m gonna get you guys someone else.
175 00:16:09.180 ⇒ 00:16:13.949 Uttam Kumaran: I will say it’s gonna be up to you guys to sort of bite off a piece of work that you can try with him.
176 00:16:14.940 ⇒ 00:16:19.120 Amber Lin: Have them do it in isolation, like, don’t worry about bringing him into channels or whatever.
177 00:16:19.120 ⇒ 00:16:27.399 Uttam Kumaran: See how we can get him to do that, and then if he works, then we’ll move with him. He seemed like, out of all… out of all three, he’s…
178 00:16:27.680 ⇒ 00:16:32.829 Uttam Kumaran: like, I got along, he’s been in consulting, he’s, like, an owner type of guy, like, I don’t think he’s gonna…
179 00:16:33.440 ⇒ 00:16:37.969 Uttam Kumaran: They can at least tell us if we can’t do it, versus what these guys are doing.
180 00:16:42.860 ⇒ 00:16:43.750 Amber Lin: Alright.
181 00:16:44.210 ⇒ 00:16:51.760 Amber Lin: Sounds good. Let me know, once you hear back from him, I will, give him.
182 00:16:51.960 ⇒ 00:16:53.030 Uttam Kumaran: Tickets. Okay.
183 00:16:53.620 ⇒ 00:16:58.110 Amber Lin: And I’ll get work with a wave to… or maybe Robert to give him context.
184 00:16:58.150 ⇒ 00:16:59.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
185 00:17:00.150 ⇒ 00:17:03.770 Uttam Kumaran: … Let’s see…
186 00:17:13.680 ⇒ 00:17:17.010 Uttam Kumaran: Do you think you can get me an answer on Giselle by Wednesday?
187 00:17:18.630 ⇒ 00:17:20.010 Amber Lin: ….
188 00:17:20.010 ⇒ 00:17:22.909 Uttam Kumaran: Like, dude, Friday’s so long from now, like….
189 00:17:23.859 ⇒ 00:17:24.309 Amber Lin: That’s true.
190 00:17:24.310 ⇒ 00:17:26.129 Uttam Kumaran: Can I give you an example?
191 00:17:26.130 ⇒ 00:17:26.550 Amber Lin: Yes.
192 00:17:26.550 ⇒ 00:17:32.729 Uttam Kumaran: Rico already just booked everything for Interlude, and we’re actively talking about, like, how to run this client.
193 00:17:32.940 ⇒ 00:17:33.810 Amber Lin: Yeah.
194 00:17:33.810 ⇒ 00:17:39.829 Uttam Kumaran: And it took, like… we talked… when did we talk? Like, 2 hours ago, and I know he’s doing all this other shit, so….
195 00:17:39.830 ⇒ 00:17:46.189 Amber Lin: Yeah, I met with Rico, so I gave him all the action items. I just met with Gisele, …
196 00:17:46.360 ⇒ 00:17:49.580 Amber Lin: like… I… I…
197 00:17:49.740 ⇒ 00:18:01.599 Amber Lin: I can play devil’s advocate, I can say she’s… she knows what she needs to do, but she can’t communicate that she knows what she needs to do. Like, what is she not doing? Can you tell me that?
198 00:18:02.450 ⇒ 00:18:07.060 Uttam Kumaran: There are no stand-ups for any… there were no notes on the meeting today from her.
199 00:18:07.410 ⇒ 00:18:17.579 Uttam Kumaran: There were no… there have been no stand-ups booked, and there have been literally zero questions about two kind of complex clients. So my… either she knows everything about it.
200 00:18:17.720 ⇒ 00:18:18.480 Amber Lin: Nope.
201 00:18:19.060 ⇒ 00:18:20.500 Uttam Kumaran: Or what ha-, like, what….
202 00:18:20.730 ⇒ 00:18:28.330 Amber Lin: she… but, like, this… I don’t like answers that’s, like, I’m still looking into it, or I’m reading the tickets. I’m telling you, I’ve been burned.
203 00:18:28.450 ⇒ 00:18:34.019 Uttam Kumaran: So much… we spent so much money on… Times when people are, like.
204 00:18:34.150 ⇒ 00:18:37.289 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, I’m still, like, getting up to speed. We don’t do….
205 00:18:37.290 ⇒ 00:18:37.850 Amber Lin: And….
206 00:18:38.400 ⇒ 00:18:43.749 Uttam Kumaran: Get thrown into a meeting, start delivering something, there’s no more, like…
207 00:18:44.290 ⇒ 00:18:47.099 Uttam Kumaran: I’m still learning, I’m still, like, researching, like.
208 00:18:47.220 ⇒ 00:18:50.349 Uttam Kumaran: okay, if you’re researching, I better see a research paper, like, what…
209 00:18:50.540 ⇒ 00:19:01.980 Uttam Kumaran: what is the output? You know, like, what is a deliverable? So that’s why even today, I was like, okay, she’s like, well, I still have to review this. I’m like, did you… did you watch any of the videos that… that are in the platform of us with the client?
210 00:19:02.140 ⇒ 00:19:05.479 Uttam Kumaran: That’s something, dude, I asked her so many times last week.
211 00:19:05.480 ⇒ 00:19:10.669 Amber Lin: Okay, send the message today, tell her the deadline is by….
212 00:19:10.960 ⇒ 00:19:12.660 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna send it to you and her.
213 00:19:12.660 ⇒ 00:19:13.100 Amber Lin: Okay.
214 00:19:13.100 ⇒ 00:19:20.189 Uttam Kumaran: But treat me as the bad guy, I don’t care. But I’m gonna say, like, look, It’s week 2.
215 00:19:21.190 ⇒ 00:19:27.580 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t, like, and I want to be really clear, like, I… from my perspective, I’m not seeing the support I need.
216 00:19:27.690 ⇒ 00:19:30.000 Uttam Kumaran: Or, like, a path towards that.
217 00:19:30.150 ⇒ 00:19:36.780 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve also confirmed that, like, all the resources are in Notion, but I’ve still yet to see you ask questions.
218 00:19:37.030 ⇒ 00:19:45.850 Uttam Kumaran: review past meeting notes, and none of the people on that team, which is just, like, it’s literally just me, Henry, and Mustafa, nobody is talking to her, so….
219 00:19:45.850 ⇒ 00:19:46.580 Amber Lin: Okay.
220 00:19:46.580 ⇒ 00:19:54.340 Uttam Kumaran: I want to kind of get a sense for, like, what can I expect for Wednesday, and what can I expect by Friday? Yeah. I mean, I’ll just see what she says, like….
221 00:19:54.340 ⇒ 00:19:54.910 Amber Lin: Yeah.
222 00:19:54.910 ⇒ 00:19:55.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
223 00:19:55.320 ⇒ 00:20:00.680 Amber Lin: I think on my end, I’ve gave her… the responsibilities.
224 00:20:00.680 ⇒ 00:20:01.150 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
225 00:20:01.150 ⇒ 00:20:14.140 Amber Lin: It gave her all the documents. I’ve walked her through how to do things. I’ve not received questions on how to do them, so I assume she knows, or she has been doing them. …
226 00:20:14.400 ⇒ 00:20:28.440 Amber Lin: like, I can give her grace that she might be slower, but maybe that’s just not someone we need on the team, so send that message, I’ll see if she can come up with the plan, because she’s a project manager, I think it’s reasonable to expect her to say, okay, I plan to do this.
227 00:20:28.780 ⇒ 00:20:31.640 Amber Lin: By Wednesday, I’m planning to do that by Friday.
228 00:20:32.010 ⇒ 00:20:32.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
229 00:20:32.780 ⇒ 00:20:43.619 Amber Lin: Okay, that’s that. I’ll talk to Usama, see if I can bring him on. I’m gonna ask Rico to start the pipeline with the other emails, applications I’ve received.
230 00:20:43.810 ⇒ 00:20:44.820 Amber Lin: …
231 00:20:45.630 ⇒ 00:20:53.860 Amber Lin: I’m gonna ask… I’m gonna create, like, what they can send for a loom, and then I’m gonna send that request out to the…
232 00:20:54.690 ⇒ 00:21:00.660 Amber Lin: 15 email applications, and maybe the 50 LinkedIn applications I received. I’ll see who sent them.
233 00:21:00.660 ⇒ 00:21:01.869 Uttam Kumaran: Right, right, okay.
234 00:21:01.870 ⇒ 00:21:02.730 Amber Lin: Okay.
235 00:21:02.730 ⇒ 00:21:06.619 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, in my inbox, there’s also a bunch of people asking me, so…
236 00:21:06.920 ⇒ 00:21:10.760 Uttam Kumaran: You can either log into my LinkedIn and send that, or someone can do that.
237 00:21:10.880 ⇒ 00:21:12.680 Uttam Kumaran: But that’d be great.
238 00:21:13.570 ⇒ 00:21:14.860 Amber Lin: ….
239 00:21:15.390 ⇒ 00:21:18.020 Uttam Kumaran: Or as soon as you have copy, just send it, and I’ll send it to them.
240 00:21:18.200 ⇒ 00:21:26.480 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay. … Create loom instructions.
241 00:21:27.560 ⇒ 00:21:32.490 Amber Lin: I’m going to send down to the latest. Okay.
242 00:21:32.750 ⇒ 00:21:34.850 Amber Lin: Noted on that.
243 00:21:35.080 ⇒ 00:21:40.200 Amber Lin: Then, other items… So, …
244 00:21:52.110 ⇒ 00:21:52.910 Amber Lin: Okay.
245 00:21:54.940 ⇒ 00:22:03.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, then let me get the answer from, Robert on… Soledad, and then…
246 00:22:05.010 ⇒ 00:22:15.919 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, let’s see, I’m gonna continue to ask some more people for more PM recs. I think, like, I think what the conclusion was after I talked to Robert is he wasn’t, like, a hell yes on Vinay.
247 00:22:16.210 ⇒ 00:22:17.120 Amber Lin: Yeah.
248 00:22:17.700 ⇒ 00:22:18.910 Uttam Kumaran: And…
249 00:22:19.730 ⇒ 00:22:29.210 Uttam Kumaran: Which is actually great, because I think that’s sort of what I was looking for, which is, like, I heard pretty good things from you, and pretty good things from Alex, but…
250 00:22:29.350 ⇒ 00:22:35.239 Uttam Kumaran: I think, he is just not exactly the person we need.
251 00:22:35.600 ⇒ 00:22:38.879 Uttam Kumaran: And as we’re seeing, like, we kind of need the perfect person.
252 00:22:38.890 ⇒ 00:22:39.850 Amber Lin: For this?
253 00:22:40.480 ⇒ 00:22:45.920 Uttam Kumaran: … Like, we don’t want someone who’s gonna rant… I mean, someone who’s, like, comes in as, like.
254 00:22:46.440 ⇒ 00:22:48.350 Uttam Kumaran: A huge step change, so…
255 00:22:48.810 ⇒ 00:22:58.500 Uttam Kumaran: I’m gonna still talk to him and maybe see, like, if he’s interested in… I don’t know, I’m gonna kind of think, but for now, I think it’s… we’re gonna hover around a no.
256 00:22:58.770 ⇒ 00:22:59.160 Amber Lin: Okay.
257 00:22:59.160 ⇒ 00:23:04.310 Uttam Kumaran: … Which, again, like, it’s… it’s unfortunate, but at least, like.
258 00:23:04.810 ⇒ 00:23:10.660 Uttam Kumaran: I’m… I’m actually trying to look at a glass half full, and that we actually have a recruiting process that
259 00:23:10.810 ⇒ 00:23:13.040 Uttam Kumaran: is balanced now, you know, and….
260 00:23:13.040 ⇒ 00:23:16.260 Amber Lin: So we don’t have to take them on and then realize things don’t work.
261 00:23:16.260 ⇒ 00:23:20.200 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and so I think this is actually good the way it worked.
262 00:23:20.480 ⇒ 00:23:30.019 Uttam Kumaran: I would love to see Emily, and I’m gonna keep… I’m keep… I’m pushing on my account, so I’ll keep throwing people your way. Look, if we have to get by with just coordinators, we will, but…
263 00:23:30.850 ⇒ 00:23:37.859 Uttam Kumaran: I think probably my ask for this crew is, like, you can see the time between decisions are gonna be shrink to, like.
264 00:23:38.310 ⇒ 00:23:41.980 Uttam Kumaran: Weeks to days, you know, like, a gut instinct tends to work.
265 00:23:42.160 ⇒ 00:23:44.939 Uttam Kumaran: Pretty well when it comes to these things, so we should trust it.
266 00:23:45.490 ⇒ 00:23:46.340 Amber Lin: Okay.
267 00:23:46.920 ⇒ 00:23:52.339 Amber Lin: Valid. I want to work with Rico on updating the recruitment SOPs.
268 00:23:52.430 ⇒ 00:23:53.150 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, okay.
269 00:23:53.420 ⇒ 00:23:54.070 Amber Lin: Yeah.
270 00:23:54.690 ⇒ 00:23:55.230 Amber Lin: Okay.
271 00:23:55.230 ⇒ 00:23:57.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Alright, I’ll let you guys go.
272 00:23:57.530 ⇒ 00:23:58.670 Amber Lin: Alrighty.
273 00:23:59.000 ⇒ 00:24:01.550 Uttam Kumaran: Thank you, guys. Bye! Bye.
274 00:24:01.550 ⇒ 00:24:02.380 Awaish Kumar: Bye.