Meeting Title: Project Management Coordinator Interview Date: 2025-08-06 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Kiran Singh


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1 00:00:06.330 00:00:07.490 Amber Lin: Hi Karen.

2 00:00:10.770 00:00:11.650 Kiran Singh: Hello!

3 00:00:11.960 00:00:14.020 Amber Lin: Hi! Is this how I pronounce.

4 00:00:15.152 00:00:16.297 Kiran Singh: Say it again.

5 00:00:16.990 00:00:18.349 Amber Lin: How do I pronounce your name?

6 00:00:18.350 00:00:20.640 Kiran Singh: Oh, it’s Kieran, like the beer.

7 00:00:20.640 00:00:21.929 Amber Lin: Oh, I see. Okay.

8 00:00:21.930 00:00:24.170 Kiran Singh: Yeah, how are you?

9 00:00:24.170 00:00:29.920 Amber Lin: I’m good. I was just talking to Utam and Robert you’ve talked to already, right.

10 00:00:29.920 00:00:31.260 Kiran Singh: Yes, I spoke to him.

11 00:00:31.260 00:00:32.590 Amber Lin: How was that?

12 00:00:33.153 00:00:36.796 Kiran Singh: I think it went well. I don’t know. What did he say?

13 00:00:37.440 00:00:47.990 Amber Lin: I think from him. He he obviously wanted me to talk to you. I think the so. That’s a good sign. And think, he? What he mentioned was that he

14 00:00:48.350 00:00:53.040 Amber Lin: you weren’t that sure of what direction you want to go in the future?

15 00:00:53.660 00:00:54.530 Kiran Singh: Okay.

16 00:00:55.260 00:00:59.200 Kiran Singh: So in terms of like product or project, or like.

17 00:00:59.200 00:01:04.060 Amber Lin: Yeah, in terms of career goals. And I know you wanted us to talk more about that. So

18 00:01:04.670 00:01:10.679 Amber Lin: if you’ve thought of that more, I would love to hear what your answer is of what you want to do for your career.

19 00:01:10.680 00:01:28.049 Kiran Singh: Yeah, I mean, like, I definitely do. Wanna I think I told them this, I’m I’m gonna say it like, how like put my cousin has like the same name as him. So I’m just gonna say it that way. I definitely like, think I want to stay in the Pmo space. Whether it’s like product or project cause, I think.

20 00:01:28.600 00:01:44.519 Kiran Singh: having to be in product right now and then. Project last. I’m able to like, combine those things that I’ve learned and stay in this space even further, like whether it’s in the future. Hopefully, I’m like leading more Pm’s

21 00:01:44.670 00:01:48.370 Kiran Singh: and stuff. But I definitely do want to go into that trajectory.

22 00:01:49.180 00:01:56.329 Amber Lin: Okay? So you mean, when you say, Pmo, do you just mean the project management office? Or does it include product management as well.

23 00:01:56.330 00:02:09.513 Kiran Singh: So like. Pmo, it. It’s very flexible, depending on the companies. I’ve saw this in the past. It can be when I mean Pmo. It can. I think it’s more of like saying, like the project pro

24 00:02:10.009 00:02:12.669 Kiran Singh: Pmo can also be programmed right.

25 00:02:13.110 00:02:18.899 Kiran Singh: I think definitely like one in in that realm of like the management space overall.

26 00:02:18.900 00:02:19.780 Kiran Singh: Just so.

27 00:02:19.780 00:02:26.080 Kiran Singh: So I can like learn the different like responsibilities, and to just like help. The trajectory overall.

28 00:02:27.600 00:02:29.840 Amber Lin: How come you want to stay in this space.

29 00:02:30.760 00:02:50.819 Kiran Singh: I mean, I think, like, since I went to school, and I took like this agile course I’m like, Oh, I can see myself doing this. I was really bad at coding, and I was like, Oh, this project management course. Isn’t that bad? So then I honestly just like kept in that space. And I just kept going like from there on. So that’s really what like

30 00:02:51.120 00:02:51.850 Kiran Singh: like.

31 00:02:52.100 00:03:06.439 Kiran Singh: got me into it. I was like, Okay, I can’t code. But I know how to manage people, and I know how to manage things. So let’s see how I can apply myself further and put myself in that space, whether it’s like tech or auditing, or whatever that is

32 00:03:06.650 00:03:15.870 Kiran Singh: being in like project or product management, you are able to be very flexible in the industry that you’re in, because I think, as long as you know, like the foundations.

33 00:03:16.160 00:03:19.930 Kiran Singh: and like understanding agile and scrum methodologies

34 00:03:20.760 00:03:24.520 Kiran Singh: that can just take you to whatever space you want to get into.

35 00:03:24.881 00:03:38.269 Amber Lin: I see, I had a sense of your background. I haven’t read it too, closely, just wanna make sure, I know you haven’t had project management experience before. That’s something you want to pivot into right.

36 00:03:38.300 00:03:51.679 Kiran Singh: So I have had project management experience. So at my 1st company I worked at was at reliant under an IoT slash edge, computing firm. It it is a it was a startup. I don’t think it’s considered a startup.

37 00:03:52.054 00:04:15.269 Kiran Singh: And I started there as an intern, and I worked my way up into one of the senior project managers. So I worked on multiple different projects. Whether it’s internal and client facing. So some of the projects I’ve worked on are very complex in terms of. They’re very technical, with like payment systems and cyber securities and making sure everything is.

38 00:04:15.820 00:04:42.670 Kiran Singh: There’s like full security on it. So one of the projects I was on it’s called like, it’s basically for Hudson group. So like in all the stores in the airports across America, you see, like Dunkin donuts to me, Hudson newsstand. So Hudson Group basically owns all of those stores and all of the PIN pads. I think it’s like a monopoly or something, I’m not sure. And it basically helped deploy new services to each PIN pad. So that took over 4 months overnight

39 00:04:43.120 00:05:03.610 Kiran Singh: and making sure, like the deployment, was successful and also stakeholder communication on a daily basis was also there. So that is one internal external project I’ve done. I’ve also done internal projects for reliant, which is like implementing implementing agile methodologies. So when I came on

40 00:05:03.890 00:05:19.969 Kiran Singh: to rely, they basically did not have any like Pmo space or any account management or anything like that. So I actually spoke with, like each team like our payments, account management engineering team and so forth. Even our marketing team

41 00:05:20.230 00:05:25.770 Kiran Singh: because they are all like co-aligned and basically told them how to do sprint planning points.

42 00:05:26.419 00:05:38.499 Kiran Singh: how to actually like do cross functional planning as well, so that they know, like what dependencies there are between the different teams and how or when they can proceed. So

43 00:05:38.500 00:06:00.369 Kiran Singh: yes, I do definitely have project management experience. When I got into Pwc. I was actually originally hired as a project manager. But after being there for a year, I basically spoke to leadership. And I was like, listen, I think this is more of a product role, because I was basically on one product from end to end doing the entire Sdlc.

44 00:06:00.560 00:06:08.060 Kiran Singh: and what we did was deploy a brand new product to all audit engagement teams.

45 00:06:08.270 00:06:19.189 Kiran Singh: And I was like, guys like this is definitely a product role versus project. So yeah, I definitely do think like what my 2 experiences combined. That will help me in this role. Also.

46 00:06:19.330 00:06:44.320 Amber Lin: Okay, gotcha I just pulled up your linkedin. So I’m taking a closer look, and I apologize that I wasn’t that prepared when I asked you that question, I think, for this interview, since Utm already did a screening with you. It’s more of a understanding for each job. What were you really hired to do, and how how it was for you. So it’s very conversational, and

47 00:06:44.320 00:07:02.530 Amber Lin: also to see if there was any very tough situations, and how you handle that. And especially since we’re a client facing role. And we are a consultancy and a startup. Things change very fast, and a lot of things come up, and we do have to act pretty fast to deal with them.

48 00:07:03.480 00:07:12.130 Amber Lin: But I I think, in terms of what you would like to do is setting up the Pmo and training new project managers. That’s the phase that we’re in currently.

49 00:07:12.500 00:07:39.489 Amber Lin: So we actually just hired a new coordinator. And we are also training her in terms of okay, these are the things that you can do. This is how you can help set up your projects, how you can do your rituals. So that’s some that’s definitely a phase that we’re doing. And if you were to join us, it’s something that you can own, and I think that you will be interested in doing that.

50 00:07:39.490 00:08:05.649 Kiran Singh: Yeah, definitely, I think at my last role prior to Pwc, I was only the project manager. And then it was like the director. And when he hired, I actually basically had someone laterally move into our little space. I basically helped him and train him up and like, let him know of all the different methodologies, and how to actually proceed during like blockers, or even during like sprint reviews or demos. So I am definitely familiar in that space

51 00:08:06.040 00:08:26.280 Kiran Singh: and even client facing right. I think one of the projects I did do was very client facing, and then especially, for in Pwc. As well, I do do a lot of product, Demos. And I think that is very beneficial. Because if you’re able to know the product end to end, you can basically talk to the clients like as if you know everything. So I think that’s a plus.

52 00:08:26.912 00:08:38.899 Amber Lin: I see. So based on what I heard when you were at reliant there was a lot, there was a mix of internal client facing projects, and when you’re at Pwc. It’s mostly internal stakeholders.

53 00:08:39.728 00:08:47.689 Kiran Singh: No, yes, it’s internal stakeholders. But so the product that I’m on we do license it out. So other

54 00:08:47.809 00:09:05.859 Kiran Singh: companies that are not audit clients of Pwc. Are able to use this product, and in order for them to do that they have to reach out to me. I do a Demo, and then they go in through the contract process, and then, once once that is done, they’re on boarded, and then they’re able to use the product that I

55 00:09:06.049 00:09:07.199 Kiran Singh: manage.

56 00:09:08.253 00:09:11.789 Amber Lin: See. Okay, joning that down.

57 00:09:23.440 00:09:24.380 Amber Lin: Thank you.

58 00:09:24.770 00:09:27.999 Amber Lin: Let me give you a case study of

59 00:09:28.360 00:09:39.100 Amber Lin: what we have dealt with, the difficult situations that we face, and just want to see how you would navigate them, and you can correlate that to maybe your current previous experiences.

60 00:09:39.100 00:09:39.440 Kiran Singh: You may.

61 00:09:39.440 00:09:46.810 Amber Lin: That’s a better way to understand your experience rather than just making you talk to your resume again. So.

62 00:09:46.810 00:09:47.520 Kiran Singh: Okay.

63 00:09:47.810 00:09:52.150 Amber Lin: We have. So this is one of our

64 00:09:52.669 00:10:02.370 Amber Lin: for our previous and existing clients. So this client say you are getting on boarded midstream. So it’s just been. It’s been going on for a while.

65 00:10:02.700 00:10:25.670 Amber Lin: and there’s a lot of different projects, a lot of different stakeholders going on, and the project. Lead wants to reduce his time on this project, so he’s wanting to hand off all the project management stuff and also getting someone else to lead this project so he can go focus on something else. And the problem is that

66 00:10:26.130 00:10:37.190 Amber Lin: there’s a lot of ad hoc requests from different stakeholders. There’s sometimes it’s very urgent. And you also don’t have that much context of what what they’re doing and how they’re doing it.

67 00:10:37.440 00:10:38.880 Amber Lin: And so

68 00:10:40.380 00:10:55.180 Amber Lin: I think also a lot of a lot of times. The project is lagging behind because the team members are not really owning the task. They do and things when they get blocked. They just keep.

69 00:10:55.220 00:11:19.330 Amber Lin: They just keep dragging on, and team members will say they will do it, but it will still keep. Take a long time for it to get done, and the client gets very frustrated. And I think that’s the background of the project based on what you hear. What would you say is the problem. And how would you go about fixing that and feel free to ask me for any clarifications.

70 00:11:19.330 00:11:40.630 Kiran Singh: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, I I think my 1st thing that comes up to mind is like, what is the root of the problem like what is causing all of these delays, whether it’s like someone not being able to deliver on time like on our end, or waiting for the client. I definitely wanna figure that out. And then, even from like the project management standpoint, before he even hands it off to a coordinator.

71 00:11:40.630 00:12:08.510 Kiran Singh: I’d like to see everything that he has done so far in terms of the meetings that he has set up. They have to be reoccurring right documentation, that he, he or she currently has right whatever other processes that he has in place before a coordinator or someone else was able to take on this project manager because for you to do a successful handoff, and for the next person to have a successful project, you need to make sure that that person you’re taking it from

72 00:12:08.800 00:12:28.260 Kiran Singh: right. They also know what they’re providing right, and you cannot hand off a project without getting all the information that you need. And if that is the case where there are a little there are a lot of issues. Then I’d probably work with that project manager list out all of those issues that they have going on and like.

73 00:12:28.320 00:12:40.739 Kiran Singh: basically get a solution for each. So like, say, if like, no one knows like what’s going on in the project. And there’s a lot of ad hoc request. Alright. So let’s set up meetings. Let’s do an internal meeting once a week, or, if we need to do twice a week.

74 00:12:40.900 00:12:58.683 Kiran Singh: right in the beginning. Sure, let’s do that. Whether it’s just with development or engineering or whomever the teams are, we need to get those on the calendar. We need to keep everyone accountable for their actions, because if we don’t and we’re going to fail, and no matter what whether it’s like talking about work or not.

75 00:12:59.130 00:13:16.539 Kiran Singh: I definitely get those things going first, st and then I’d also just speak to the project manager like what he has done and what he hasn’t done, and I like to see his project management plan as well. If he doesn’t have that, we need to start it up. I will basically need to leverage my skills. And what I’ve learned in the past years

76 00:13:16.890 00:13:37.990 Kiran Singh: and apply those to that project before he can even fully hand it off, and even if he or she comes back with, I don’t have time to do this. Well, then, we need to escalate this to our stakeholders internally and get it done because there’s no success in a project. If there is no proper handoff, proper protocols or processes and things like that.

77 00:13:38.400 00:13:39.950 Kiran Singh: hopefully that answers it.

78 00:13:40.090 00:13:42.479 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, I really like that. You

79 00:13:42.700 00:13:53.329 Amber Lin: require that information to be filled in because most of the times people will not give you time unless you ask for time. And I think that’s very important in the role that we do.

80 00:13:53.500 00:13:54.220 Kiran Singh: Yeah.

81 00:13:54.220 00:13:55.179 Amber Lin: Oh, let me!

82 00:13:55.180 00:13:57.810 Kiran Singh: Especially in like a startup space, right? Like.

83 00:13:57.950 00:14:06.849 Kiran Singh: I think there should be more attention to detail, especially if someone is like putting more like they are playing different hats in this role.

84 00:14:07.100 00:14:12.569 Kiran Singh: So if you can’t do that, then you’re not accountable. If you’re not accountable, then what are you doing.

85 00:14:14.080 00:14:31.730 Amber Lin: sounds good. I had. I had another case study. But I think it’s quite similar to the one that you just answered, and I think if we follow the same line or logic that that problem could be also be solved. I had a few questions on your previous roles. So

86 00:14:32.220 00:14:33.730 Amber Lin: could you tell me?

87 00:14:34.545 00:14:39.679 Amber Lin: How come you’re looking for a new opportunity? If you’re currently at Pwc.

88 00:14:40.480 00:14:48.670 Kiran Singh: I mean, I think the the opportunity that I’m applying for it’s like a part part time project, management, coordinator role, right?

89 00:14:48.670 00:14:49.250 Amber Lin: -

90 00:14:49.250 00:14:57.080 Kiran Singh: Okay, good. That’s still what we’re going for. I just think that I wanna just better align my skills and my competencies

91 00:14:57.250 00:15:01.940 Kiran Singh: for this role. And and I think the fact that I am like

92 00:15:02.330 00:15:14.280 Kiran Singh: able to work locally, and I am to be like very like close to everyone that should also assist in terms of like making the project, and like pushing it through the finish line.

93 00:15:15.000 00:15:25.859 Kiran Singh: And I’ve also understand that, like this is part time. So I will still have my my Pwc role, and I did like consider the balance, and I am confident that I can manage both commitments.

94 00:15:25.960 00:15:30.659 Amber Lin: Without like compromising the quality of the work, for I see either he don’t see or

95 00:15:31.226 00:15:33.490 Amber Lin: I see. I

96 00:15:33.620 00:15:46.490 Amber Lin: well, I I hear that you mentioned. If people are working locally. So we’re remote 1st company, and all of our teams are dispersed across the Us. And dispersed across Asia, I’m not sure if that was clear.

97 00:15:46.820 00:15:48.320 Kiran Singh: Okay. Okay.

98 00:15:48.610 00:15:57.590 Amber Lin: Yeah. So I I’m not sure if something working in person is what you want. I don’t think this role will be able to provide that for you.

99 00:15:57.590 00:16:01.000 Kiran Singh: Right. No, no, that’s fine. Just wanted to put it out there.

100 00:16:01.370 00:16:02.050 Amber Lin: Hmm.

101 00:16:04.150 00:16:04.810 Kiran Singh: Yeah.

102 00:16:06.050 00:16:11.900 Amber Lin: I think I recall that you say you were hired from Pwc. As a project manager.

103 00:16:12.520 00:16:22.760 Amber Lin: We’re able to transition to product right any responsibility, other responsibilities they hired you for, like, what do they hire you for? Essentially.

104 00:16:22.760 00:16:40.029 Kiran Singh: Honestly, I think the job title is just wrong. Yeah, it really just felt like that. That’s what I was saying. Like when I spoke to leadership. I’m just like guys. I know you hired me as a project. But but this feels like a product role because I wasn’t working on many projects. I was just working on one product, the entire.

105 00:16:40.714 00:16:41.399 Amber Lin: See.

106 00:16:41.400 00:16:55.949 Kiran Singh: Yeah, like, I was doing like Uat testing release work and things like that which is basically more like product focus reliant. I would work for multiple clients at once, right or multiple internal projects at once as well.

107 00:16:56.470 00:16:58.370 Kiran Singh: And I was managing it like that.

108 00:16:58.750 00:17:01.559 Kiran Singh: And then Pwc was just one product. And that’s it.

109 00:17:01.560 00:17:03.248 Amber Lin: Let’s see, let’s see.

110 00:17:04.920 00:17:11.169 Amber Lin: I know you already touched upon it. What was the responsibilities that you were hired for? For reliant.

111 00:17:11.630 00:17:31.970 Kiran Singh: For rely. Well, I started off as an intern, and I basically had to help the director of the Pmo Start Brand, new project, management office or department. So like, I was saying, implementing agile methodologies, making teams understand what is scrum sprint reviews and things like that, and then slowly going to the client facing projects as well.

112 00:17:33.100 00:17:33.790 Kiran Singh: yeah.

113 00:17:35.541 00:17:38.190 Amber Lin: What was the reason that you left Reliion?

114 00:17:38.410 00:17:40.190 Amber Lin: I know you worked there for a while.

115 00:17:40.190 00:17:59.410 Kiran Singh: Yeah, I was there for I think under 2 years I don’t remember, but I think I was just looking for something more of a different pace pace. And then also I did also wanted to just get into the financial world for a little bit, to see how that will work, and how I can leverage what I’ve learned in the startup space as well.

116 00:17:59.410 00:18:02.859 Amber Lin: Okay? When you say different pace, what do you mean?

117 00:18:03.200 00:18:07.850 Kiran Singh: So reliant, was more startup. And then Pwc. Is more of a corporate.

118 00:18:08.640 00:18:19.510 Kiran Singh: Yeah, there is way, more red tape in the corporate world that I’ve learned versus being at reliant or in a startup space, because I know that startup is very much like, Get it done today or yesterday.

119 00:18:19.510 00:18:19.870 Amber Lin: Okay.

120 00:18:19.870 00:18:22.779 Kiran Singh: Versus like what I learned at Pwc. It’s like

121 00:18:22.910 00:18:41.010 Kiran Singh: there’s processes in place. There’s leadership that you have to talk to. There’s a bazillion. Other teams you need to talk to like we just deployed a AI Chatbot for the product that I’m on. Before we could even do that, we had to talk to a market readiness team. We had to update our privacy statements.

122 00:18:41.180 00:18:41.780 Amber Lin: We have to.

123 00:18:41.780 00:18:49.130 Kiran Singh: Talk to different leaderships in a different accounting departments to make sure they are okay with this. So there’s just a lot more like

124 00:18:49.360 00:18:57.050 Kiran Singh: processes to go through. And that’s not something that I really fully learned at reliant. But I’ve learned here, and I think that

125 00:18:57.270 00:19:02.070 Kiran Singh: was a wake-up call, because you don’t really know until you’re in that space.

126 00:19:02.260 00:19:04.110 Amber Lin: I see there is a lot of

127 00:19:04.270 00:19:17.799 Amber Lin: well. Processes became in place for a reason, and most of it is because someone failed and results of that. And then the process that got put in place. What type of work environment do you prefer.

128 00:19:19.980 00:19:21.260 Kiran Singh: Honestly.

129 00:19:21.860 00:19:41.680 Kiran Singh: I’m stuck on my old ways, and I do like to just get it done. So I do think at Pwc, I had to basically slow my roles. But I am more used to like the startup environment. I think it’s just that’s what I was 1st in. And that’s what I’m so used to, and that’s what I just can’t let go. I don’t know why.

130 00:19:42.490 00:19:45.330 Amber Lin: I see. Yeah, I think the 1st

131 00:19:45.600 00:19:52.979 Amber Lin: method you learn does imprint a bit on your preferences and your values. Yeah, so

132 00:19:53.380 00:20:12.062 Amber Lin: oh, I’m glad to hear that because we are a startup. So I wouldn’t be able to provide all the processes because a lot of times there’s just no time for that. We are trying to put in place more standards and sops for people to do things, but sometimes, if you have to skip it, you still have to skip it very unfortunately.

133 00:20:12.530 00:20:29.419 Amber Lin: I notice that we have around 9 min. So I just want to give you some space to ask questions. About how we currently work. Any of how people work together what the team or teams are like. So just feel free to ask me any questions you have.

134 00:20:29.420 00:20:35.940 Kiran Singh: Yeah, I mean, I I think autumn like gave like a quick background. But I do want to see from like a project management perspective.

135 00:20:36.630 00:20:42.549 Kiran Singh: Who I would be supporting, and what would like my roles, my role and responsibility would be.

136 00:20:42.550 00:20:47.340 Amber Lin: I see. Since I know you’re hiring for the Coordinator role.

137 00:20:47.950 00:20:57.869 Amber Lin: partly it will be supporting me, and then partly, it will be smaller projects. So you will probably be directly supporting Utam on the smaller projects because he

138 00:20:58.120 00:21:15.070 Amber Lin: plays the architect where he’s the lead on those he just needs some basic project management help. And then I have some bigger projects that I also need some support on. We have recently hired a new coordinator that we’re

139 00:21:15.523 00:21:33.710 Amber Lin: seeing how she does so she’s supporting some other projects where we have some new clients coming in that we’ll need support on, and we’re hiring a project management lead so that you will also be supporting them as well.

140 00:21:33.710 00:21:36.040 Kiran Singh: Okay, no problem. I think that’s fine.

141 00:21:36.040 00:21:41.219 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think on a similar note, what would be your working hours generally.

142 00:21:42.396 00:21:53.489 Kiran Singh: I think definitely. In the mornings I can provide a few hours, and then, of course, after work or after I’m like 4. I am very available to pick up anything else.

143 00:21:53.970 00:21:56.340 Amber Lin: Okay? You’re in est, right?

144 00:21:56.340 00:21:57.000 Kiran Singh: Yes.

145 00:21:57.880 00:22:01.799 Amber Lin: And mornings you mean before what time?

146 00:22:02.200 00:22:11.670 Kiran Singh: I would say, between like 7 to like 9, 9, 30, and then anything after like 4 Pm.

147 00:22:11.930 00:22:15.150 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, wait. Do you also work remotely right now?

148 00:22:15.150 00:22:15.830 Kiran Singh: Yes.

149 00:22:16.090 00:22:18.590 Amber Lin: Oh, I see, that’s very nice.

150 00:22:18.590 00:22:19.320 Kiran Singh: Yeah.

151 00:22:19.470 00:22:23.559 Amber Lin: I think it. I’ll check with the I’ll check with the team because

152 00:22:23.820 00:22:34.919 Amber Lin: we are quite dispersed in time zones, and sometimes we do require our Pm’s. To be on client calls, which, unfortunately, it’s probably during your work hours with the Pwc.

153 00:22:34.920 00:22:35.460 Kiran Singh: Okay.

154 00:22:35.460 00:22:38.550 Amber Lin: So I’ll double check to see what

155 00:22:38.750 00:22:48.140 Amber Lin: roles or what tasks we have that can be done. Offline but I’m glad I asked, because I think that’s very important.

156 00:22:48.140 00:22:48.810 Kiran Singh: Okay.

157 00:22:48.810 00:22:50.900 Amber Lin: Yeah. Any other questions you have for me.

158 00:22:51.360 00:22:52.390 Kiran Singh: Not really.

159 00:22:52.720 00:22:53.620 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.

160 00:22:57.330 00:23:17.344 Amber Lin: alright. I think I’ll take the notes from this call. I’m gonna sync with Alex and then sync with on this. And then, if we want to move forward, I’ll probably have. We’ll probably have another call with Alex. He can make the final call.

161 00:23:17.770 00:23:18.190 Kiran Singh: Okay.

162 00:23:18.190 00:23:19.490 Amber Lin: On this process.

163 00:23:19.880 00:23:21.380 Kiran Singh: Okay. Yeah.

164 00:23:21.930 00:23:24.340 Amber Lin: Thank you. I appreciate you taking your time.

165 00:23:24.340 00:23:25.600 Kiran Singh: Yup, you too! Bye.

166 00:23:25.600 00:23:26.380 Amber Lin: Bye.