Meeting Title: Project Manager Interview - Giselle Agot Date: 2025-08-01 Meeting participants: Giselle Agot, Amber Lin
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1 00:02:09.900 ⇒ 00:02:11.190 Giselle Agot: Hi! Amber.
2 00:02:25.470 ⇒ 00:02:27.080 Giselle Agot: hey, Amber! Can you hear me?
3 00:02:27.080 ⇒ 00:02:30.039 Amber Lin: I can hear you sorry I was connecting to audio.
4 00:02:30.300 ⇒ 00:02:31.050 Giselle Agot: Okay.
5 00:02:32.820 ⇒ 00:02:35.599 Amber Lin: Nice to see you again. It’s been so long since I last saw you.
6 00:02:37.880 ⇒ 00:02:40.777 Giselle Agot: It’s just a thing few hours.
7 00:02:41.260 ⇒ 00:02:42.486 Amber Lin: I know.
8 00:02:44.830 ⇒ 00:02:46.040 Amber Lin: How are you today.
9 00:02:46.230 ⇒ 00:02:51.069 Giselle Agot: I’m doing great. I just woke up so I look fresh, as you can see.
10 00:02:51.070 ⇒ 00:02:52.989 Amber Lin: What time is it for you?
11 00:02:52.990 ⇒ 00:02:55.064 Amber Lin: It’s 4 in the morning.
12 00:02:56.280 ⇒ 00:03:01.020 Amber Lin: Gosh, you could have booked later. I was okay. I was okay, like, later in the day.
13 00:03:01.020 ⇒ 00:03:10.520 Giselle Agot: No, I prefer like. It’s very quiet here, like I can really. You know, work like the kids are sleeping. So I don’t have any distraction.
14 00:03:11.380 ⇒ 00:03:11.930 Giselle Agot: I prefer.
15 00:03:11.930 ⇒ 00:03:12.380 Amber Lin: See.
16 00:03:12.380 ⇒ 00:03:14.910 Giselle Agot: Actually, I prefer night schedule. So yeah.
17 00:03:14.910 ⇒ 00:03:22.719 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, that’s nice. So mostly, I know we have around 60 min. And
18 00:03:23.360 ⇒ 00:03:41.959 Amber Lin: so what we wanted for this interview is to go more in depth into your previous experiences. So for each of the positions, we’ll go in chronological order. So it’s easier for us to for our brains to process, and then for each of them I have a few questions, and then
19 00:03:42.170 ⇒ 00:03:48.890 Amber Lin: and then the second part is more about different skill areas. So for this position.
20 00:03:49.370 ⇒ 00:04:09.264 Amber Lin: So we can talk about for that area where your accomplishments are your biggest insights and lessons learned. And then, lastly, again, like any any questions you have. We can talk about the company, how you can fit in, how we can help your family, or how we can make sure that
21 00:04:10.170 ⇒ 00:04:21.640 Amber Lin: that this job provides for you financially how we can make sure you have autonomy and have fun. So I want to have space at the end to definitely talk about that type of stuff.
22 00:04:21.870 ⇒ 00:04:22.720 Giselle Agot: Okay.
23 00:04:22.920 ⇒ 00:04:27.170 Amber Lin: Yeah, I took a closer.
24 00:04:27.350 ⇒ 00:04:31.910 Amber Lin: So I took a closer look at your resume 10, and I think.
25 00:04:32.913 ⇒ 00:04:46.720 Amber Lin: usually, when we do this interview we go. We try to go back 10 years. I don’t think we have time for that, because we do really want to hire fast and get someone started on this position.
26 00:04:47.160 ⇒ 00:04:55.530 Amber Lin: And so I think I’ll start with the job you had at my site marketing. So that was
27 00:04:55.700 ⇒ 00:05:06.909 Amber Lin: June 2018 to August 2022, based on what your Linkedin said. And so my 1st question for that would be, what were you hired to do.
28 00:05:08.598 ⇒ 00:05:11.069 Giselle Agot: It’s the same with what I was working
29 00:05:11.837 ⇒ 00:05:14.779 Giselle Agot: like. It’s still project management. It’s just that.
30 00:05:14.780 ⇒ 00:05:15.130 Amber Lin: Okay.
31 00:05:15.130 ⇒ 00:05:19.800 Giselle Agot: The main focus of the business is more on website and development.
32 00:05:20.610 ⇒ 00:05:21.996 Giselle Agot: So so
33 00:05:22.860 ⇒ 00:05:41.089 Giselle Agot: the good thing about the company was there were just a few clients that I was working with. So I was. It was manageable, and I was just working with one like one web. It was a small company. So it’s it’s not like the same company that I was last working with just business marketing engine, like I have
34 00:05:41.090 ⇒ 00:05:54.299 Giselle Agot: 15 clients at this point. It’s just. I was just assigned to 5 clients, and it’s manageable because I was just working with a web developer. The CEO themselves are the one who does the sales. They are the ones who does the marketing.
35 00:05:54.300 ⇒ 00:05:54.870 Amber Lin: Instrument.
36 00:05:54.870 ⇒ 00:06:07.270 Giselle Agot: And then what they just need me to do is be able to coordinate with the development team, especially when it comes to you know, website and development. Let’s say it’s it’s a, it’s a.
37 00:06:07.840 ⇒ 00:06:10.330 Giselle Agot: Website optimization. So I get to.
38 00:06:10.780 ⇒ 00:06:28.169 Amber Lin: See. So they hired you to organize. So I’m I’m thinking, because when we hired to, we have like a mission, and there’s an objective we want you to fulfill. So I asked if we summarized it in one line, would you say that it’s they hired you so that
39 00:06:29.180 ⇒ 00:06:38.409 Amber Lin: You can make sure the projects went smoothly or coordinate a different tasks. What would you say? In one line that they hired you to do like the mission.
40 00:06:38.410 ⇒ 00:06:49.840 Giselle Agot: Yeah, they hired me because they wanted organization with all of the projects that they have in place. Like they were very busy with sales they don’t have to project. They don’t have time to project. Manage the.
41 00:06:50.500 ⇒ 00:07:06.059 Giselle Agot: Yeah, except we’re already existing. So they wanted someone like me in to manage the existing projects. And if there will be new projects. Then I will be able to. You know. Look get into the project and be able to coordinate that with the team.
42 00:07:06.473 ⇒ 00:07:10.190 Amber Lin: I see. Okay, sounds good, that’s all. That’s really
43 00:07:10.290 ⇒ 00:07:17.140 Amber Lin: all I wanted to know for that question. The next one is, what accomplishments are you most proud of at that job?
44 00:07:19.150 ⇒ 00:07:21.540 Giselle Agot: Accomplishment, I’d say.
45 00:07:22.070 ⇒ 00:07:28.829 Giselle Agot: probably because I stayed long enough with a company. I stayed with them for quite a while, and.
46 00:07:30.500 ⇒ 00:07:36.150 Giselle Agot: For me. There was no room for improvement like I was just doing the same thing over and over again. So
47 00:07:36.584 ⇒ 00:07:45.740 Giselle Agot: like, I already know, like the process like, Okay, there’s a new client. That is what I get to do. I get to talk to the developer. I get to check with the timeline of the project. The task.
48 00:07:47.640 ⇒ 00:07:54.240 Giselle Agot: Probably it’s because I was able to manage it very quick, because for me it was.
49 00:07:54.890 ⇒ 00:08:24.479 Giselle Agot: Simple. It’s a simple test, because it’s it’s just managing the internal team. And then that’s it, like, I don’t do of client facing calls like, same as what I do with Bm. Or business marketing engine. Like every 2 weeks I get to meet with the client. I follow up with them it. It’s actually my bosses who does that. So I have to make sure that I get the team coordinated. So that was my main role. So yeah. I stayed with the company for a time that I did not think that I would last long. But yeah.
50 00:08:24.870 ⇒ 00:08:36.500 Giselle Agot: I was with the company for a longer time, and the accomplishment that I’d say is probably being able to work with the team. Coordinate the team. I’m getting close to the team and being able to work with them.
51 00:08:37.059 ⇒ 00:08:37.639 Amber Lin: Hmm!
52 00:08:37.919 ⇒ 00:08:45.169 Amber Lin: What do you mean that sometimes the team was hard to work with, and therefore it’s quite accomplishment to be able to work with them? Very well.
53 00:08:45.741 ⇒ 00:08:50.409 Giselle Agot: Because the developers that I was working with is based in India. So there is.
54 00:08:51.491 ⇒ 00:09:03.750 Giselle Agot: A a language barrier sometimes. But I I really do like understand. And of course they took the time also to understand me, because I also have a lot of questions every time. It’s like very technical, like. I asked them.
55 00:09:03.750 ⇒ 00:09:04.110 Amber Lin: Question.
56 00:09:04.407 ⇒ 00:09:19.559 Giselle Agot: I I make sure that I get to coordinate with them, because I know that this needs teamwork like if I don’t get to communicate very well with them, or I don’t get along with them. We won’t be able to meet the target that we’re supposed to be getting so.
57 00:09:19.920 ⇒ 00:09:20.380 Amber Lin: Hmm.
58 00:09:20.380 ⇒ 00:09:21.120 Giselle Agot: So, yeah.
59 00:09:22.430 ⇒ 00:09:39.099 Amber Lin: Hey? That’s really awesome. I think you already touched on that a little bit. So what would you say? Was the low points of that job. I know you said it was repetitive, and then you weren’t able to do client facing. But what would you say is like a low point that you had in those 4 years you spent there.
60 00:09:40.560 ⇒ 00:09:42.720 Giselle Agot: Low point, probably because I was just
61 00:09:42.950 ⇒ 00:09:46.189 Giselle Agot: stay in the same task like
62 00:09:46.630 ⇒ 00:09:49.539 Giselle Agot: I was like. It was just for me. It was
63 00:09:49.720 ⇒ 00:09:53.460 Giselle Agot: not giving me a challenge like it’s just like
64 00:09:53.650 ⇒ 00:10:18.269 Giselle Agot: we. We just kept like few clients like 5 or 6. The most is like 7. But it’s just small task for that new client. So I was thinking, like, I I needed something new. I needed to upscale myself. So that’s that could be yeah, that I was younger than so. I could like the reason why I was looking for something else, something more challenging.
65 00:10:18.720 ⇒ 00:10:19.310 Amber Lin: Hmm!
66 00:10:21.550 ⇒ 00:10:25.360 Amber Lin: I see. So it sounds like there wasn’t really like a
67 00:10:25.570 ⇒ 00:10:34.730 Amber Lin: challenging moment. Everything was just very manageable, and you had a low point because it got a bit boring, because everything was just too easy.
68 00:10:35.520 ⇒ 00:10:38.049 Giselle Agot: Yeah, like, it was just the same like.
69 00:10:38.050 ⇒ 00:10:38.720 Amber Lin: I see.
70 00:10:38.720 ⇒ 00:10:52.020 Giselle Agot: I get like am I still? Is it? Is the business still okay, like, or are we like doubting like I’m still good, or am. I am still going to be working next week, because
71 00:10:52.120 ⇒ 00:11:00.090 Giselle Agot: it gives me the worry, feeling that be laid off because we have a few clients, but but but
72 00:11:00.520 ⇒ 00:11:05.779 Giselle Agot: they’re very good bosses. So they kept me all those years. So yeah.
73 00:11:06.250 ⇒ 00:11:19.570 Amber Lin: Hmm, wow, yeah. And then, and then I think that leads to the question. So I’m curious about who you were working with. Can you tell me the name of your boss at that company?
74 00:11:19.950 ⇒ 00:11:25.220 Giselle Agot: It’s Bridget Bridge, Bridget Dollstrom. Yeah.
75 00:11:25.220 ⇒ 00:11:26.560 Amber Lin: Okay.
76 00:11:31.230 ⇒ 00:11:34.419 Amber Lin: yeah. What was it like? Working for? Bridget.
77 00:11:34.990 ⇒ 00:11:37.879 Giselle Agot: She’s like a mom to me like she’s like a mother
78 00:11:38.500 ⇒ 00:11:46.249 Giselle Agot: checks in with me like, How are the kids? How are you doing? How’s your day? And then every time they travel like they would call.
79 00:11:46.470 ⇒ 00:11:53.840 Amber Lin: Because they they would be telling their clients. We’re traveling, but if you have any other concerns, they will just leave it off to me, I will be the
80 00:11:53.840 ⇒ 00:11:54.620 Amber Lin: oh.
81 00:11:54.620 ⇒ 00:11:59.480 Giselle Agot: And so they check on me like they asked me like how I am.
82 00:11:59.590 ⇒ 00:12:06.029 Giselle Agot: And then, yeah, she’s. They’re like parents to me that time, like.
83 00:12:06.030 ⇒ 00:12:06.810 Amber Lin: Wow!
84 00:12:06.810 ⇒ 00:12:10.840 Giselle Agot: Because it was just very you know.
85 00:12:10.980 ⇒ 00:12:17.827 Giselle Agot: it was not very complicated, so it was just feelings. I was like, I have a lot of free time.
86 00:12:18.690 ⇒ 00:12:31.740 Giselle Agot: Maybe because I was younger, like I wanted to do more. So that could be the reason why, like I did not like push through how many years, if if I would be expected. And of course the business for me was
87 00:12:31.860 ⇒ 00:12:36.580 Giselle Agot: like, I’m thinking, because that was the time when we had a debt
88 00:12:36.770 ⇒ 00:12:38.760 Giselle Agot: by phone here in the Philippines.
89 00:12:38.760 ⇒ 00:12:39.430 Amber Lin: Hmm.
90 00:12:39.430 ⇒ 00:13:03.739 Giselle Agot: Yeah, there was a big typhoon and they had to let me stop working for for like like for 2 months. So and I understand, because, of course, they cannot pay me the days. I’m not working. So I was sad, so I didn’t expect them to pay me because I was not working, but that was that pushed me to like, okay, I cannot be staying for you few months more.
91 00:13:04.087 ⇒ 00:13:09.999 Giselle Agot: Not earning. So I had to look for something that that I could earn while waiting.
92 00:13:10.590 ⇒ 00:13:16.530 Amber Lin: Oh, so that’s why you left the job is because you felt guilty that they were still paying you.
93 00:13:16.530 ⇒ 00:13:24.519 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I don’t feel, I feel guilty. Because the the pay was not enough with what I was doing like
94 00:13:25.960 ⇒ 00:13:29.980 Giselle Agot: I’m, I’m, I’m doing what I need to do. But I I need more. Something like that.
95 00:13:29.980 ⇒ 00:13:30.849 Amber Lin: That’s true.
96 00:13:31.190 ⇒ 00:13:41.850 Giselle Agot: So yeah. Then, when the typhoon happened like they asked me like, you can just rest for a few months until you get back on track.
97 00:13:41.980 ⇒ 00:13:46.549 Amber Lin: But I’m not going to be paid. So I told them, I cannot do that. I have to work. So
98 00:13:46.550 ⇒ 00:13:47.980 Amber Lin: hmm, I see.
99 00:13:50.620 ⇒ 00:14:03.879 Amber Lin: Wow! I see. I mean, they sound like really nice people. What would you say that Bridget would say your strengths are, and what your areas of improvement might be.
100 00:14:05.960 ⇒ 00:14:10.810 Giselle Agot: Probably that time they want me to be more proactive areas of improvement.
101 00:14:10.810 ⇒ 00:14:11.210 Amber Lin: Hmm.
102 00:14:11.210 ⇒ 00:14:11.750 Giselle Agot: This
103 00:14:12.080 ⇒ 00:14:34.450 Giselle Agot: they can, I’m sure that they could notice like, Gee is just okay with what she’s doing like she’s not reaching out like, hey, do you need help with this department? Or if there’s something that I could do more to help, I was just like doing what they asked me to do. And then that’s it. That was a learning experience for me, because I could have done more like I could have like told them like I want to upskill myself. I want to do.
104 00:14:34.633 ⇒ 00:14:34.999 Amber Lin: That’s true.
105 00:14:35.000 ⇒ 00:14:46.479 Giselle Agot: Say, social media like to get them more clients, or I could do something like that. But I was not. I was just working, because that was I was thinking I was supposed to do.
106 00:14:47.110 ⇒ 00:14:51.981 Giselle Agot: I could have been more proactive. I think that’s what they’re going to.
107 00:14:53.281 ⇒ 00:14:55.570 Giselle Agot: You know, give feedback on me.
108 00:14:55.750 ⇒ 00:14:56.390 Giselle Agot: Oh.
109 00:14:56.390 ⇒ 00:14:57.260 Amber Lin: I see.
110 00:14:57.880 ⇒ 00:15:10.269 Giselle Agot: Actually, because probably they would give me a feedback like I stayed long for the company. I remained loyal with them because I see family them. They’re like parents. It’s Bridget and Joshua, husband and wife. So Bridget.
111 00:15:10.270 ⇒ 00:15:10.980 Amber Lin: Oh!
112 00:15:10.980 ⇒ 00:15:16.340 Giselle Agot: So I stayed with them. I didn’t want to leave them, but I had the feeling that
113 00:15:16.917 ⇒ 00:15:20.490 Giselle Agot: I’m not anymore growing. So yeah, that was the reason.
114 00:15:20.490 ⇒ 00:15:22.310 Amber Lin: Yeah.
115 00:15:32.410 ⇒ 00:15:41.099 Amber Lin: okay, in that team. I imagined you weren’t in the managerial position, right, you weren’t hiring or firing, anyone?
116 00:15:42.090 ⇒ 00:15:47.309 Giselle Agot: No, I was not hiring. They were the one who does the hiring. I’m more on the
117 00:15:47.610 ⇒ 00:15:50.899 Giselle Agot: project coordination with the internal team.
118 00:15:51.640 ⇒ 00:15:52.380 Amber Lin: Okay.
119 00:15:52.380 ⇒ 00:16:09.662 Giselle Agot: Like, there’s a new client. There’s a new project they would let me know, and then I’m the one coordinating with the team, making sure that they’re able to do the task that the client is asking for. There are. We actually already have existing clients, and there were just tasks that the clients will let them like. Can you add this to my website? Can you?
120 00:16:09.920 ⇒ 00:16:10.450 Amber Lin: Okay.
121 00:16:10.450 ⇒ 00:16:13.849 Giselle Agot: Something to the something like that. So I make sure that happens. I make sure that.
122 00:16:13.850 ⇒ 00:16:14.480 Amber Lin: I see.
123 00:16:14.480 ⇒ 00:16:15.890 Giselle Agot: Been done by the team.
124 00:16:16.090 ⇒ 00:16:25.979 Amber Lin: Okay? How would you rate your team like on the are they a BC like, how would you rate the team that you were that you have.
125 00:16:25.980 ⇒ 00:16:49.070 Giselle Agot: They’re really good, like I. When I tell them to do a task, they right away do it so it’s very quick like I I assigned them. Of course we have a project management tool. I remember that time, Trello, so I assigned the task to them, and then right away, they do it. Probably they’re the same with me, like they were just waiting on that new task coming in. And then once it comes, they’re able to do it right away. So
126 00:16:49.220 ⇒ 00:16:53.789 Giselle Agot: we were always on time, like, I did not have any problems with the team, because they’re very quick
127 00:16:53.950 ⇒ 00:16:55.880 Giselle Agot: to work with.
128 00:16:56.040 ⇒ 00:16:56.760 Giselle Agot: So yeah.
129 00:16:56.760 ⇒ 00:17:04.000 Amber Lin: Hmm, yeah. Did you make any changes to the ways people were working, or any changes to the team.
130 00:17:05.302 ⇒ 00:17:08.999 Giselle Agot: That time I did suggest some few sops.
131 00:17:09.680 ⇒ 00:17:12.309 Giselle Agot: There’s some new things happening like they already have
132 00:17:12.819 ⇒ 00:17:25.849 Giselle Agot: in place, but like I would be suggesting, like, we have this new process, or the team find something like we could like add to the sop, and then they were very open to it. Okay, you can just add that. And then that’s it. Like.
133 00:17:25.849 ⇒ 00:17:26.399 Amber Lin: No.
134 00:17:26.400 ⇒ 00:17:34.680 Giselle Agot: I could have like pull them, probably we should revise the there were no new people coming in after that was hired. You were.
135 00:17:34.680 ⇒ 00:17:35.300 Amber Lin: Hmm.
136 00:17:35.300 ⇒ 00:17:45.220 Giselle Agot: We were already like a team already when I was hired, so we didn’t have new people coming, so I think that time they did not see it as an urgent thing to like.
137 00:17:45.220 ⇒ 00:17:45.750 Amber Lin: Yeah.
138 00:17:45.750 ⇒ 00:17:49.420 Giselle Agot: Focus on the sop, because we already have a process in place.
139 00:17:50.590 ⇒ 00:18:10.030 Amber Lin: yeah, that totally makes sense. I think that’s everything everything for this job it sounds like, you guys were really, close and it was just. It’s just you grew out of it, and then you needed a better opportunity. Is that why you found the job? The next job you were freelancing at Excelsior, creative.
140 00:18:11.260 ⇒ 00:18:14.150 Giselle Agot: Yeah, it’s still a website and development company. So.
141 00:18:14.150 ⇒ 00:18:14.810 Amber Lin: Okay.
142 00:18:14.890 ⇒ 00:18:15.640 Giselle Agot: And boom.
143 00:18:15.640 ⇒ 00:18:16.910 Amber Lin: Hired to do.
144 00:18:18.040 ⇒ 00:18:21.830 Giselle Agot: It’s the same but they have more clients. I believe I was
145 00:18:23.071 ⇒ 00:18:30.508 Giselle Agot: working with like 10 clients. And they. The offer was also higher. So that was the reason I
146 00:18:31.495 ⇒ 00:18:52.319 Giselle Agot: they because they were looking for a technical project manager. So my experience with website and development. So they see, like, okay, we need someone like you to help us with our website and development. projects. So, but not only that, there was also SEO ppc.
147 00:18:52.450 ⇒ 00:18:53.990 Giselle Agot: which was something that
148 00:18:54.270 ⇒ 00:19:12.401 Giselle Agot: that time I was not really you know, knowledgeable. So I had to learn. I had to understand so, but I was also doing client facing calls. I need. But in those calls I’m not alone like I have the client with me because they had to observe me for a time. They had to.
149 00:19:13.030 ⇒ 00:19:24.690 Giselle Agot: like, you know. See if if I’m I’m good with their existing clients something like that. So it was not like a an alone call like I ha! I have to handle the call. There were. They were also in the call at the same time, so.
150 00:19:24.690 ⇒ 00:19:25.520 Amber Lin: I see.
151 00:19:25.520 ⇒ 00:19:28.630 Giselle Agot: It’s just website and development. And then that’s it.
152 00:19:30.820 ⇒ 00:19:39.880 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, that sounds good. So again, like, what accomplishments were you most proud of for the 5 months that you worked there.
153 00:19:42.568 ⇒ 00:19:45.009 Giselle Agot: I did not have much.
154 00:19:45.170 ⇒ 00:19:52.740 Giselle Agot: As far as I remember. I was just able to deliver the projects. We did not have any delays.
155 00:19:53.550 ⇒ 00:20:02.110 Giselle Agot: because it’s because I was very I was. I already know the system that they use, like, I already know, like
156 00:20:02.290 ⇒ 00:20:16.163 Giselle Agot: I I told them that it’s it’s good that we should be checking in with the clients every week we should. I was giving them some ideas as well with the practices that I’ve had with the previous client I was working for. So I think that was that was the
157 00:20:16.660 ⇒ 00:20:21.759 Giselle Agot: The good thing that I had when I was with the team. But I haven’t like really much
158 00:20:21.910 ⇒ 00:20:33.689 Giselle Agot: like gave 100 that I if, as far as I remember, with the company other than being able to deliver the projects, and being able to meet the deadlines.
159 00:20:33.690 ⇒ 00:20:36.290 Amber Lin: Hmm. I see. I mean,
160 00:20:38.110 ⇒ 00:21:04.110 Amber Lin: I’m really curious about this, because I think for a few jobs you you said that you weren’t able to give 100, because, like the jobs, wasn’t that interesting? So I really wanted to see like, if the when we talk about the next one, if you were able to give your 100. So I want to see, like, what type of job challenges you. And we’ll take that into consideration, too, when giving you different tasks, because there’s a lot of
161 00:21:04.120 ⇒ 00:21:12.750 Amber Lin: stuff that needs to get done in the company. And I want to make sure that we give you the ones that make you interested. So I would love to talk about that later.
162 00:21:13.430 ⇒ 00:21:13.890 Giselle Agot: Okay.
163 00:21:14.400 ⇒ 00:21:15.350 Amber Lin: Yeah.
164 00:21:16.400 ⇒ 00:21:24.060 Amber Lin: I think for the next one. The next question was, if there was any low points to during that job.
165 00:21:25.690 ⇒ 00:21:27.719 Giselle Agot: With excels.
166 00:21:28.030 ⇒ 00:21:30.769 Giselle Agot: Okay, that last? Oh, sorry, which I’m sorry.
167 00:21:31.068 ⇒ 00:21:32.860 Amber Lin: This one is excel through creative.
168 00:21:32.860 ⇒ 00:21:35.950 Giselle Agot: That’s here. Yeah. Low point.
169 00:21:37.100 ⇒ 00:21:39.609 Giselle Agot: I don’t think there is a low point like
170 00:21:40.414 ⇒ 00:21:43.249 Giselle Agot: it’s just a short period of time. So.
171 00:21:43.250 ⇒ 00:21:43.930 Amber Lin: Hmm.
172 00:21:43.930 ⇒ 00:21:48.200 Giselle Agot: It was just. It’s fast paced like that. You just
173 00:21:48.716 ⇒ 00:21:53.933 Giselle Agot: it was just project like just being able to finish what I need to do so.
174 00:21:54.780 ⇒ 00:22:12.579 Giselle Agot: I don’t see a low point, because everybody was working with a very professional like they could like right away, be able to deliver like. I don’t have a hard time like telling them that they need to do this, or there were delays, so number I I don’t have any low points.
175 00:22:12.950 ⇒ 00:22:16.730 Amber Lin: I see. Okay, let me note that down.
176 00:22:33.410 ⇒ 00:22:48.049 Amber Lin: Yeah. Actually, I have another question. So you said the company was very fast paced. Do you prefer, like faster paced companies, or do you prefer to have everything like very organized and lots of processes like, what do you prefer.
177 00:22:50.660 ⇒ 00:23:20.299 Giselle Agot: I prefer process like there’s I don’t expect, like a company has a process already in place. I’ve had experience like being able to help put up the process in a company like in a startup company, like the 1st management role that I was hired for. So but i i i go with processes. I go with having a system. I go with being more organized, so
178 00:23:21.810 ⇒ 00:23:25.830 Giselle Agot: I I don’t have any preference like if it’s fast paced, or
179 00:23:26.010 ⇒ 00:23:29.430 Giselle Agot: or it’s there’s already a process in place, because.
180 00:23:29.430 ⇒ 00:23:29.990 Amber Lin: Yeah.
181 00:23:29.990 ⇒ 00:23:38.060 Giselle Agot: There are some pros and cons actually like, if there’s a process in place, I have to like, adjust myself, making sure I follow that. So that’s a challenge.
182 00:23:38.470 ⇒ 00:23:46.109 Giselle Agot: So a good thing, because you don’t really have to like, like, you know, to arrange. It’s already in place. But.
183 00:23:46.190 ⇒ 00:23:46.940 Amber Lin: Yeah.
184 00:23:46.940 ⇒ 00:24:06.709 Giselle Agot: If there’s no process yet I could like you know, put in my suggestions and then let the team. It’s it’s a it’s a win for me having or provide to provide those suggestions. So I also love doing that. So I don’t have any preference. As long as
185 00:24:07.221 ⇒ 00:24:10.480 Giselle Agot: I know that I’m what I’m doing. I understand what I’m doing
186 00:24:11.000 ⇒ 00:24:17.850 Giselle Agot: other than giving out information. That’s wrong, and you know it will turn out to be bad for the company, for the team.
187 00:24:17.850 ⇒ 00:24:35.980 Amber Lin: Yeah, I mostly asked that because it’s something I’ve ran into recently. So that like, so a week ago, I just had way too many meetings, because I was also like, we set a process for Pmos. And I was like, Okay, I’m gonna follow this. We have like different meetings at different rituals for
188 00:24:36.400 ⇒ 00:24:53.589 Amber Lin: 18, and then ended up being way. Too many meetings. And then, in that case we needed to cut some meetings out, or maybe the tickets won’t be as groomed, or and then we had to make our compromises and what we had to do in that situation, like, I guess
189 00:24:55.240 ⇒ 00:24:56.160 Amber Lin: I guess
190 00:24:56.800 ⇒ 00:25:03.839 Amber Lin: side questions. If you if you were in my shoes, if you had that many meetings, what what would you have done.
191 00:25:04.680 ⇒ 00:25:19.589 Giselle Agot: For me. I would say that we plot the a calendar for all of your meetings, and I know that there were some clients. That would be plugging that on your meetings. But I would suggest to just cut the meetings to 30 min.
192 00:25:21.250 ⇒ 00:25:30.199 Giselle Agot: And then, if let’s say for this sort, if it if it’s a vip or someone that’s a big client, then, of course, there may be times it’s going to be extended. But
193 00:25:30.380 ⇒ 00:25:45.205 Giselle Agot: since we are the one handling the call, then we can like, tell them, like, Okay, I have a hard stop. So we have to. You know we have to end the meeting. However, we can set up another meeting. If ever, if we need to talk further, or to discuss for something like that.
194 00:25:45.470 ⇒ 00:25:53.240 Amber Lin: What if it makes the project go slower? Because sometimes like, what if it’s needed? And then you just end up with a lot of things.
195 00:25:54.862 ⇒ 00:25:58.950 Giselle Agot: What do you mean like, we need to really need to make the project faster.
196 00:25:59.904 ⇒ 00:26:17.539 Amber Lin: I guess it’s more of we have our. Oh, I guess. Sorry my mind is all over the place to start with. Have you had, like official project management training training like, do you know, different rituals? And like all that, all that stuff? It’s okay if you don’t, because we have our training as well.
197 00:26:20.021 ⇒ 00:26:22.849 Giselle Agot: Like training like certification. Sorry I.
198 00:26:23.213 ⇒ 00:26:26.480 Amber Lin: Certification? Or have you been in like a official.
199 00:26:26.600 ⇒ 00:26:39.680 Amber Lin: a company that has like a Pmo that gives you processes? And they have, like a project manager lead that teaches, teaches you on how things go like. Have you had that experience before?
200 00:26:39.680 ⇒ 00:26:41.300 Giselle Agot: Yeah, that was the last job that I was.
201 00:26:41.300 ⇒ 00:26:42.100 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
202 00:26:42.100 ⇒ 00:27:01.509 Giselle Agot: Looking for I came in shock when I was hired, because the last project management that I was working was just focused on website and development. But the business marketing engine, it’s doesn’t stop there. It’s managing from from onboarding the client. And then
203 00:27:01.620 ⇒ 00:27:09.960 Giselle Agot: they don’t. They they have like they have like different brackets like it’s they have a funnel. They they have to make sure that.
204 00:27:09.960 ⇒ 00:27:10.590 Amber Lin: Oh!
205 00:27:10.590 ⇒ 00:27:35.449 Giselle Agot: We launch the website, or we? We have the funnels. You know, ongoing. Then we have to generate leads. It doesn’t stop there. So it’s a long process. So I was like, I was shocked like, Okay, so this is how it is. So I was. I had a project management leader told me, this is not just coordinating. G, you’re just not going to be telling the team what to do, but you will be leading them from start to finish. So that was.
206 00:27:35.450 ⇒ 00:27:38.210 Amber Lin: Oh, when did you get involved in a sales cycle?
207 00:27:40.560 ⇒ 00:27:54.050 Giselle Agot: it’s actually a part of it, like when let’s say the sales team it gets to meet with a potential client or leave. I get to I get to you know, get invited in the call. So I get to listen.
208 00:27:54.050 ⇒ 00:27:55.290 Amber Lin: Oh, wow!
209 00:27:55.290 ⇒ 00:28:19.700 Giselle Agot: So I get to see, like how the sales present, the the you know, the the how they get to present what we are offering, and then if ever, I won’t be able to attend, because probably because of the time zone, they record the call, and I have to listen to the call because we it’s the the process that we have is sales. And then, after sales, we have project kick off, and that’s.
210 00:28:19.700 ⇒ 00:28:20.160 Amber Lin: Hmm.
211 00:28:20.160 ⇒ 00:28:25.030 Giselle Agot: I won’t be able to deliver project, kick off if I did not understand what they were talking about.
212 00:28:25.030 ⇒ 00:28:25.760 Amber Lin: But you.
213 00:28:25.760 ⇒ 00:28:29.519 Giselle Agot: Sales call. So I have to really understand. So yeah.
214 00:28:30.810 ⇒ 00:28:36.399 Amber Lin: Hey? Yeah, that sounds that sounds awesome. So after Project Kickoff, what is the phase after that?
215 00:28:36.400 ⇒ 00:28:43.280 Giselle Agot: The project. Kickoff. Of course we have to give the potential client time to.
216 00:28:43.520 ⇒ 00:28:49.030 Giselle Agot: because we will be presenting the marketing strategy after project. Kick off so
217 00:28:49.642 ⇒ 00:29:01.529 Giselle Agot: since they will be discussing during the kick off the business with the business about what their goals. So the marketing strategies will be you know, doing a report. They will be doing a presentation.
218 00:29:01.530 ⇒ 00:29:21.470 Giselle Agot: And then, after the kick off, that’s when we have the marketing presentation. So that’s when we present to them, what we can do for them, how we can generate leads for them. So if they agree, or they’re happy with what they’re presenting if they sign. And that’s when I get to send out a blast email to the team like.
219 00:29:21.470 ⇒ 00:29:21.820 Amber Lin: Look.
220 00:29:21.820 ⇒ 00:29:35.330 Giselle Agot: You have a new client that sales team will also send. Or the Admin team also send out the blast email. Okay, a client has signed. So it’s time for you to create a project dashboard for this client and then assign the team members. And that’s whenever.
221 00:29:35.330 ⇒ 00:29:35.930 Amber Lin: Yes.
222 00:29:35.930 ⇒ 00:29:44.600 Giselle Agot: And then I get to to book a call with a client, and then that’s when I get to discuss with them the project scope.
223 00:29:46.780 ⇒ 00:29:55.209 Amber Lin: wow, okay. And then after that, it’s going to be execute execution. And then have you done project closing? What do you do at that.
224 00:29:56.398 ⇒ 00:30:24.479 Giselle Agot: For project closing. Let’s just say we give out like, it depends on the contract that the client has signed. Let’s say it’s a 6 month contract, so we offer them if they need, if they want to extend, or if they want to we always make sure that we communicate with them. So we schedule a call with them for a 2 year. You know, a a plan like the marketing strategies would say, let’s look back to your funnel. Let’s look back to what we have done in the past few months, and then, if
225 00:30:25.093 ⇒ 00:30:39.650 Giselle Agot: they will discuss with them what they, what, what they have researched, what they have found out, and then they will be suggesting, like, if ever you’ll be extending your your business with us, then this is what we can do in the next 6 months.
226 00:30:39.650 ⇒ 00:30:40.210 Amber Lin: Awesome.
227 00:30:40.210 ⇒ 00:30:47.040 Giselle Agot: And then if they’re happy with that, then they will sign that it’s gonna be a new project or a new you know.
228 00:30:47.040 ⇒ 00:30:47.580 Amber Lin: Okay.
229 00:30:47.580 ⇒ 00:30:54.559 Giselle Agot: A new project for me, but it’s going to be the same client, since it’s going to be a different marketing strategy that we’ll be following.
230 00:30:54.560 ⇒ 00:30:55.670 Amber Lin: Hmm!
231 00:30:56.080 ⇒ 00:30:57.930 Amber Lin: And if the client says No.
232 00:30:58.590 ⇒ 00:31:03.879 Giselle Agot: If the client says no, then that’s the time. I tell the team, let’s say the copywriting team the
233 00:31:04.421 ⇒ 00:31:08.030 Giselle Agot: since we really we have the meetings like every
234 00:31:08.220 ⇒ 00:31:34.589 Giselle Agot: 2 weeks I get to discuss with them like we have, like 2 months left for this client. So we need to make sure we are able to deliver everything in the project scope, so I make sure that I complete with them, and then it has to be completed, and then I set up. If let’s let’s say the last month already with a client. So I get to meet with a client, discuss with them what we have done so far in the past few months. What are how? How is there? You know.
235 00:31:35.150 ⇒ 00:32:02.280 Giselle Agot: How are they? What we have done so far the the if they’re getting roi with the strategy that or if it’s working, or if they want to push through, so we give them all the assets. Also that we have done for them like copywriting assets. I give them access, and then after that, if they don’t have any questions anything, then we let them sign a form to close it off like they sign like.
236 00:32:02.810 ⇒ 00:32:04.060 Giselle Agot: And everything so.
237 00:32:04.060 ⇒ 00:32:28.820 Amber Lin: Yeah, we have that, too. That sounds really awesome. Wait to follow up on that. Did you? Were you ever involved in the marketing like creating the marketing strategy or helping or helping sales to think about. Oh, what is what is some potential offers? We can offer that to them to extend like. Were you ever involved in that? Or was that someone else’s.
238 00:32:29.522 ⇒ 00:32:43.460 Giselle Agot: From the very start like it was. If the client is just a lead. I I don’t give inputs yet, but when I get to take care of the client for like 6 months, I give inputs like, probably this will work for this guy because I already have a full understanding.
239 00:32:43.460 ⇒ 00:32:43.970 Amber Lin: Oh!
240 00:32:43.970 ⇒ 00:32:45.359 Giselle Agot: So that’s when I
241 00:32:46.100 ⇒ 00:33:05.189 Giselle Agot: because we have team meetings. So we we get this to discuss about it. So, yeah, we we we give that we, we show numbers. We show them our reports, campaign reports. So yeah, I I don’t see myself like really involved, but just few details because I’m managing the project. So I I.
242 00:33:05.380 ⇒ 00:33:05.760 Amber Lin: I see.
243 00:33:05.760 ⇒ 00:33:13.300 Giselle Agot: Understanding. And I I’m the one working with the client. So it’s me that the client I get to know the client more.
244 00:33:13.780 ⇒ 00:33:18.209 Giselle Agot: And the sales or the marketing team, because I’m the one meeting them bi-weekly.
245 00:33:18.580 ⇒ 00:33:44.529 Amber Lin: Oh, cool. Okay. Cause. I asked that because we have our internal marketing team and internal sales team, we also do campaigns, and we do all of that. I think one of the responsibilities that you’ll start with is probably our internal teams, and especially since it’s much closer to what you’ve been doing before, because our other teams are mostly data and AI and sometimes get pretty technical. And it might be A,
246 00:33:44.530 ⇒ 00:34:01.410 Amber Lin: it might take longer to transition. So right now, someone my Ops lead is helping fill in to manage the marketing team, but would love to give that responsibility for responsibility, that of that to you. And I was curious. If you wanted to
247 00:34:01.510 ⇒ 00:34:28.469 Amber Lin: help lead that function even of thinking about. Okay, what are some campaigns we can do, or what are some? What are some potential ways we can do? So that’s more like a department lead or project lead. I I wasn’t sure if that’s the direction. You wanted to go to go deeper into the marketing side? Or do you want to just go deeper into project management and then test out different projects, and then work with more clients like, what direction are you more interested in.
248 00:34:29.840 ⇒ 00:34:33.590 Giselle Agot: I want to have full understanding on what the business is about. So I think.
249 00:34:34.119 ⇒ 00:34:51.199 Giselle Agot: if I have handsome experience, like how the projects are understanding like how the projects are are done like, what clients are you working with, or what are the tasks being done? So you have the understanding rather than going up already, like
250 00:34:51.460 ⇒ 00:34:56.549 Giselle Agot: sharing what I think of it. I I don’t see myself very confident in that field yet.
251 00:34:57.463 ⇒ 00:35:02.980 Amber Lin: I see, I see. So, oh, okay.
252 00:35:03.860 ⇒ 00:35:19.070 Amber Lin: yeah, that’s not like that’s not like a very important thing is mostly like in the future. If you, if you work with us, of what direction you want to grow into, so you’ll have more context by then, and you can choose where you want to grow in.
253 00:35:20.020 ⇒ 00:35:24.400 Giselle Agot: Yes, definitely. If ever I’ll be given the opportunity.
254 00:35:24.700 ⇒ 00:35:25.654 Amber Lin: Yeah,
255 00:35:27.270 ⇒ 00:35:41.920 Amber Lin: and I think, oh, sorry I I was very interested in your business marketing editor jobs. I forgot a question on the previous on the previous job. I think on that. It’s like, Why did you leave that job? I know it was very short.
256 00:35:43.340 ⇒ 00:35:44.569 Giselle Agot: Or sorry.
257 00:35:45.170 ⇒ 00:35:49.129 Amber Lin: The job before that Excelsior creative? Why did you leave that job.
258 00:35:50.754 ⇒ 00:35:57.760 Giselle Agot: I did not leave. Actually there was. It was just a short project gig that I did.
259 00:35:58.280 ⇒ 00:35:58.959 Amber Lin: I see it.
260 00:35:58.960 ⇒ 00:36:05.049 Giselle Agot: When it was done, then. I was no longer needed. So yes, that’s the reason why.
261 00:36:10.820 ⇒ 00:36:15.289 Amber Lin: What do you mean? You were no longer needed, don’t they always need project managers.
262 00:36:16.376 ⇒ 00:36:18.840 Giselle Agot: They actually do. But
263 00:36:19.293 ⇒ 00:36:32.169 Giselle Agot: I’m I’m more of like an assistant project manager, because the boss, like they just actually there were actually 2 bosses like they were friends, and one is in the sales team, and then one is also doing the project management, and there was a lot
264 00:36:32.800 ⇒ 00:36:40.900 Giselle Agot: on his plate that time, and they needed someone to help him with the projects. And that’s why they had me in so they said that there were
265 00:36:41.594 ⇒ 00:36:59.835 Giselle Agot: very, because it was also doing other business. So they had to someone who’s going to be working on their existing existing clients. That was what they needed me for. I was told them that it’s going to be part time, and then they’re going to have me full time. But did that did not happen because
266 00:37:00.960 ⇒ 00:37:05.550 Giselle Agot: They? They did not the the task and the job was already done. So yeah.
267 00:37:06.530 ⇒ 00:37:07.100 Amber Lin: Hmm!
268 00:37:08.680 ⇒ 00:37:11.950 Amber Lin: I see. So they didn’t get new clients is what I hear.
269 00:37:12.510 ⇒ 00:37:24.480 Giselle Agot: Yes, they were just keeping the same clients that they do. They have other businesses or other than that, like one of the bosses has a school that he is attending to, so.
270 00:37:24.480 ⇒ 00:37:25.300 Amber Lin: What?
271 00:37:25.480 ⇒ 00:37:27.670 Amber Lin: Crazy? Yeah.
272 00:37:27.670 ⇒ 00:37:42.219 Giselle Agot: They’re they’re very busy. So that’s why they needed someone to help them with their business like online virtual business. It was just a test for them like, maybe we can try this out. But they already have their like day jobs already, like they.
273 00:37:49.360 ⇒ 00:37:58.030 Amber Lin: I see, I see. So it’s like a there’s much, not much need there. Okay, I guess.
274 00:37:58.210 ⇒ 00:38:08.260 Amber Lin: Okay, we don’t have much time. I want to talk about like your most recent job, because that’s very interesting. Can you tell me what accomplishments you’re most proud of.
275 00:38:09.405 ⇒ 00:38:12.650 Giselle Agot: Most proud of for Bme business marketing engine.
276 00:38:13.830 ⇒ 00:38:22.030 Giselle Agot: Yeah, that was the that was the hardest thing that happened to me, because I was very happy with the company like
277 00:38:23.206 ⇒ 00:38:46.319 Giselle Agot: I was ready. Having family like I was thinking like, I’m this is the company that’ll be working for such a long time, and I’ve learned a lot because it it was the company that taught me like, you’re not just coordinating, like you know, doing internal stuff, but you’ll you’ll be leading. So that that was the main training that I got as a project manager like I was leveled up as a project manager
278 00:38:46.320 ⇒ 00:38:57.169 Giselle Agot: so, and I was not like waiting on what to do. I was the one who’s going to step up and have to lead the team, because if I’m not going to be leading the team, then
279 00:38:57.450 ⇒ 00:39:01.590 Giselle Agot: we will be experiencing delays, and clients will be very unhappy. So.
280 00:39:01.590 ⇒ 00:39:02.520 Amber Lin: Yeah.
281 00:39:02.520 ⇒ 00:39:10.329 Giselle Agot: So yeah. So that was that was I was just sad because the biggest client that they had that they had.
282 00:39:11.368 ⇒ 00:39:35.399 Giselle Agot: They were. No, because the project manager actually, that was assigned to that client. Res resigned. And I think that that was the start that they did not anymore. Get. They’re not anymore getting sales or not getting more you know, in their. So I’m not sure, because I was not assigned to that client. I was assigned to different client, because it was
283 00:39:35.630 ⇒ 00:39:57.239 Giselle Agot: it was the biggest client, and I think the more tenured project manager. I think she also she already sees it like, okay, I think this client is not anymore happy. So that’s we are thinking. That’s why she had. She stepped back, and then, few months after, like the the boss told us that the the they’re pulling out, and I was like.
284 00:39:57.360 ⇒ 00:40:06.770 Giselle Agot: Oh, my gosh! That was really sad, because it was one of the biggest kind of the the clients that I’m assigned to already done like they’re not anymore pushing with their contract. So I was the one.
285 00:40:06.770 ⇒ 00:40:07.390 Amber Lin: Hmm.
286 00:40:07.390 ⇒ 00:40:17.299 Giselle Agot: Was lesser clients. I was already Comp. I already completed, like the 12 month contract, and there were not anymore pushing through because they’re already unstable with their business. So.
287 00:40:17.760 ⇒ 00:40:19.939 Amber Lin: Oh, what happened to the company.
288 00:40:20.460 ⇒ 00:40:37.370 Giselle Agot: They’re they’re still okay. I I just talked to my project management manager lead, I think, last Monday. And then I was asking her like she was asking me, have you already? Because she was sending me a job like you applied to this one because they know that I was laid off so.
289 00:40:37.370 ⇒ 00:40:37.900 Amber Lin: Good.
290 00:40:37.900 ⇒ 00:41:03.399 Giselle Agot: I was like, yeah, I’ll be sending. So she was giving me some jobs online that she found because she really wanted me to get a job already, because they were very worried. And then I might ask her like house. Bme like, how’s everybody? So she said, we are. We don’t have any new clients, so we’re still waiting because she’s just sad, and she was asking me if if you get to be hired. If you get to know another job. Maybe you can.
291 00:41:04.180 ⇒ 00:41:06.680 Amber Lin: I was like. I have to get myself hired first.st
292 00:41:08.640 ⇒ 00:41:09.160 Giselle Agot: So.
293 00:41:09.160 ⇒ 00:41:09.920 Amber Lin: I see.
294 00:41:09.920 ⇒ 00:41:15.840 Giselle Agot: So yeah, that’s just a sad life of, you know, working remotely like.
295 00:41:16.970 ⇒ 00:41:20.179 Giselle Agot: Ability. So is, that’s just how it is.
296 00:41:26.860 ⇒ 00:41:30.626 Amber Lin: Oh, sorry! Give me one second. Let me grab something real quick.
297 00:41:48.460 ⇒ 00:41:53.500 Amber Lin: Sorry. I’m on my period, and I do not want to stay in my pants. So
298 00:41:53.680 ⇒ 00:41:55.429 Amber Lin: give me a walk open.
299 00:41:59.850 ⇒ 00:42:03.940 Amber Lin: Okay, hang on back.
300 00:42:09.800 ⇒ 00:42:10.570 Amber Lin: Okay?
301 00:42:11.453 ⇒ 00:42:21.550 Amber Lin: I think one more question on that team. What would you say? Like your boss there. What would they say? Was your area of improvement.
302 00:42:22.050 ⇒ 00:42:23.800 Amber Lin: or or your strengths.
303 00:42:25.130 ⇒ 00:42:33.730 Giselle Agot: Areas of improvement. They always give me a feedback on my client calls like they want it to be more confident, like
304 00:42:34.030 ⇒ 00:42:41.660 Giselle Agot: I have a lot of arms. They that’s what they tell me like, because we have this session with the team like we listen to our calls
305 00:42:42.410 ⇒ 00:42:53.659 Giselle Agot: calls every time we have client calls is recorded. They they want it recorded. So we have this like call listening session every week with the project management team. And then we assess.
306 00:42:53.660 ⇒ 00:42:54.050 Amber Lin: Oh!
307 00:42:54.050 ⇒ 00:43:07.749 Giselle Agot: What are the areas of improvement? What do we need to improve as a project manager? It’s it’s not like bullying you because your project is more of like knowing, like how other people would think, what you need to improve. And we’re we’re very happy. We have that session. So.
308 00:43:07.750 ⇒ 00:43:20.289 Amber Lin: Yeah, that sounds like a great thing that if you join we’ll love to implement together because I don’t. We don’t have a Pm. Team. I just me and my advisor, so I would love to have be able to do that as well.
309 00:43:20.630 ⇒ 00:43:47.720 Giselle Agot: Yeah, so it’s always, they tell me, like, Gee, you know what you’re saying. But sometimes you’re talking too fast, and then you don’t confident you’re saying almost a lot of time. So the client will. May think that you don’t know what you’re talking about you. You’re you’re not prepared. So that’s always a feedback from me. So especially when it’s a question like, I don’t have any idea like it’s an out of the book question asked by the client like.
310 00:43:47.720 ⇒ 00:43:48.110 Amber Lin: Come on!
311 00:43:48.110 ⇒ 00:43:53.590 Giselle Agot: Not this one. And I was like, Oh, and then it really shows in my face like I don’t know. So it
312 00:43:54.630 ⇒ 00:44:01.109 Giselle Agot: and like, you know, because you have to look like you’re professional. You know everything. So you just tell them I’ll get back to you on that. So they they really
313 00:44:01.770 ⇒ 00:44:18.660 Giselle Agot: it so. Cause I I’m very transparent, like like what I see what every time like they would know that I’m working especially I’m in the meetings because I’m doing like this. We know that you’re working because your eyebrows are meeting each other. So I was like, Okay, I’ll be. I will be pausing because I’m multitasking all the time.
314 00:44:19.270 ⇒ 00:44:20.589 Amber Lin: I see. I see.
315 00:44:20.590 ⇒ 00:44:24.650 Giselle Agot: They don’t like that they want to be. They want me to be more focused, especially when they’re.
316 00:44:24.650 ⇒ 00:44:25.020 Amber Lin: The.
317 00:44:25.020 ⇒ 00:44:35.920 Giselle Agot: Some things discussed very important things that they may have missed. Sometimes I tell myself there’s a recording I can just send back to the recording, and then I have to finish this because I have to prepare for the next client for the next call. But.
318 00:44:35.920 ⇒ 00:44:36.590 Amber Lin: Hmm.
319 00:44:36.590 ⇒ 00:44:41.570 Giselle Agot: Really slow down. So I think that’s an area improvement for me. And then.
320 00:44:41.690 ⇒ 00:44:59.119 Giselle Agot: yeah, the the way I talk in calls like I have to be very confident in how I talk, and then, if it’s something that I don’t know, I don’t I? They they coach me for not really showing like there’s the the face that I I show the client that I don’t know. I always they always tell me to tell the client
321 00:44:59.640 ⇒ 00:45:04.470 Giselle Agot: them about it because you don’t know everything, and especially if it’s more technical like, it’s for the
322 00:45:04.910 ⇒ 00:45:14.369 Giselle Agot: developers to answer. So they don’t expect you to know everything, so you can always get back. So that’s the always feedback that they give me. So.
323 00:45:14.370 ⇒ 00:45:31.230 Amber Lin: Yeah, I get that feedback, too. I understand. I understand what you’re talking about, because, especially our clients are they’re also very technical. And usually they talk about this specific data issue. I don’t know how they build it. I don’t know what they did. I don’t know what they what they had, and it’s
324 00:45:31.430 ⇒ 00:45:32.703 Amber Lin: it’s scary.
325 00:45:33.700 ⇒ 00:45:35.700 Amber Lin: The clients are not that nice.
326 00:45:36.310 ⇒ 00:45:44.860 Giselle Agot: Yes, yes, like silly show, and then they teach me to like just look like you, you know. But you don’t know. You just pretend so.
327 00:45:45.335 ⇒ 00:45:45.810 Amber Lin: Okay.
328 00:45:45.810 ⇒ 00:45:51.219 Giselle Agot: I. I cannot conceal my emotions. So they are teaching me. That’s always the feedback that they.
329 00:45:51.623 ⇒ 00:45:52.429 Amber Lin: I see.
330 00:45:53.400 ⇒ 00:45:59.019 Amber Lin: What’s your project? Management leads name? That’s your manager, I assume.
331 00:45:59.270 ⇒ 00:46:02.510 Giselle Agot: Yeah. It’s she’s a Filipina. She’s Eunice Arisgado.
332 00:46:02.820 ⇒ 00:46:03.420 Amber Lin: Hmm.
333 00:46:06.990 ⇒ 00:46:15.050 Amber Lin: is this is a Filipino company. Do they work for work with overseas clients, or just Filipino clients?
334 00:46:15.545 ⇒ 00:46:30.419 Giselle Agot: For the project management team. They have Filipinos. But for the marketing strategies, team, Americans, copywriting Americans developers is India. So it’s very, actually, it’s all over the world. So.
335 00:46:30.420 ⇒ 00:46:31.199 Amber Lin: I see it.
336 00:46:31.200 ⇒ 00:46:31.820 Giselle Agot: Yeah.
337 00:46:33.550 ⇒ 00:46:44.769 Giselle Agot: we. We’re actually a big team. It’s a big company. I left. We were 6 project manage 5 project managers, one project manager, lead, and then.
338 00:46:44.770 ⇒ 00:46:45.620 Amber Lin: Oh!
339 00:46:45.620 ⇒ 00:46:51.270 Giselle Agot: 2 marketing strategies, 4 copywriters.
340 00:46:51.868 ⇒ 00:46:57.849 Giselle Agot: Develop. The developers are 5. We also have graphic designers. 5. So it’s a big.
341 00:46:57.850 ⇒ 00:46:58.720 Amber Lin: Oh!
342 00:46:58.720 ⇒ 00:46:59.340 Giselle Agot: Yeah.
343 00:47:00.410 ⇒ 00:47:01.160 Amber Lin: Wow!
344 00:47:01.160 ⇒ 00:47:07.040 Giselle Agot: And then we we. During the time that I got laid off we were 5 also that got laid off.
345 00:47:08.110 ⇒ 00:47:11.460 Amber Lin: Oh, I see. Cause they just have no income.
346 00:47:14.925 ⇒ 00:47:15.640 Amber Lin: Okay.
347 00:47:16.880 ⇒ 00:47:19.519 Amber Lin: What was it like working with your niece?
348 00:47:21.390 ⇒ 00:47:24.076 Giselle Agot: Oh, I I look up to her.
349 00:47:25.480 ⇒ 00:47:27.362 Giselle Agot: She’s really smart.
350 00:47:28.974 ⇒ 00:47:38.400 Giselle Agot: She’s like a sister like if you’re going to be speaking our dialect every time I make a mistake, she was like, I’m going to pinch you. If I were.
351 00:47:38.893 ⇒ 00:47:39.880 Amber Lin: It’s like.
352 00:47:39.880 ⇒ 00:47:57.520 Giselle Agot: Because then I always joke because I I’m the joker of the team, like every time we have meetings. I I tell them jokes. And then, yeah, that that was actually what they chatted me last week, like, you know. Gee, during our meetings we’re not anymore laughing because you’re not there. And I was like.
353 00:47:57.520 ⇒ 00:47:57.930 Amber Lin: Call.
354 00:47:57.930 ⇒ 00:48:01.360 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I I could share you the messages that we’re sending me.
355 00:48:02.060 ⇒ 00:48:09.534 Giselle Agot: I told them. It’s just fine, maybe in in time. Then that my team will. They were really sad, and then
356 00:48:10.520 ⇒ 00:48:10.890 Amber Lin: In, the.
357 00:48:10.890 ⇒ 00:48:18.170 Giselle Agot: Team members that I was like I was close with, like they were not anymore happy, like, they’re also looking for other jobs because they think
358 00:48:18.690 ⇒ 00:48:31.750 Giselle Agot: like, why, why, you choose someone else like another department. I was like, why do you have to think about that? If if this is how how it is. Maybe there’s a good reason why. So yeah.
359 00:48:31.750 ⇒ 00:48:35.899 Amber Lin: So your Pm. Lead didn’t make the decision. Who made that decision?
360 00:48:37.193 ⇒ 00:48:40.643 Giselle Agot: They base it on the clients that I’m assigned.
361 00:48:41.410 ⇒ 00:48:44.290 Amber Lin: Oh, I see, because your clients are completed that makes sense.
362 00:48:44.553 ⇒ 00:48:50.609 Giselle Agot: I have already 3 clients that are already closing that time. So I’m left with 2, and they’re they’re just small clients, like
363 00:48:50.820 ⇒ 00:48:53.449 Giselle Agot: graphic design already. So
364 00:48:53.680 ⇒ 00:49:03.669 Giselle Agot: the other team members they have on. We as much as possible. The assigned project manager is the assigned project, one for that client. They don’t want to like change project manager.
365 00:49:03.670 ⇒ 00:49:05.210 Amber Lin: Yeah, I understand.
366 00:49:05.511 ⇒ 00:49:08.530 Giselle Agot: Was like, Why are you always changing like they already.
367 00:49:08.890 ⇒ 00:49:12.699 Giselle Agot: A relationship as much as possible. You want to create relationships with our clients. So
368 00:49:13.370 ⇒ 00:49:25.600 Giselle Agot: that was the reason why, when the one of the biggest client pulled out because the project manager assigned to that client resigned. So I I just feel like that’s the reason why they but I’m not sure that was just one.
369 00:49:25.600 ⇒ 00:49:26.850 Amber Lin: I see. I see.
370 00:49:28.510 ⇒ 00:49:36.160 Amber Lin: Oh, we have around, I think. 12 min left. All right
371 00:49:36.550 ⇒ 00:49:49.800 Amber Lin: overall. I know we’re hiring for Pm. Coordinator, if you ask me, I’m pretty confident that you’ll very quickly become a full Project manager.
372 00:49:50.670 ⇒ 00:49:53.619 Amber Lin: but I want to ask you what you think
373 00:49:53.730 ⇒ 00:50:02.960 Amber Lin: as a Pm. Or as a even as a coordinator. What do you think are the 2 main, like 2 most important areas
374 00:50:03.080 ⇒ 00:50:05.909 Amber Lin: of of being a Pm.
375 00:50:08.500 ⇒ 00:50:13.870 Giselle Agot: This some quality of a good. Okay.
376 00:50:13.870 ⇒ 00:50:17.679 Amber Lin: Quality or skill, like, just like an area of competence.
377 00:50:18.900 ⇒ 00:50:25.570 Giselle Agot: 1st is communication. I think it’s very vital that you have very good communication skills. If you’re a project manager.
378 00:50:25.680 ⇒ 00:50:33.120 Giselle Agot: because let’s just say you’re very hard to understand. How can you manage? How can you communicate very well with the client? How can you make.
379 00:50:33.120 ⇒ 00:50:33.460 Amber Lin: Hmm.
380 00:50:33.460 ⇒ 00:50:59.819 Giselle Agot: I am happy. How can you make? How can you build relationship with the clients? So I think communication is very important for me. Over the years. The 1st time got that I got hired for as a project manager, the the the boss that told me that I don’t. I don’t need your technical skills, for now I need someone who can communicate with our existing clients, and I think that was the reason why I got hired. They didn’t hire me because
381 00:51:00.250 ⇒ 00:51:04.890 Giselle Agot: I was technical or I have knowledge. They hired me because of my communication skills. So I’d say.
382 00:51:05.420 ⇒ 00:51:20.680 Giselle Agot: it’s an advantage. If you’re very good in communic communicating if you’re in a project management role. So that’s 1 that’s 1 for me. And then attentive to detail, I’d say, it’s very important, especially
383 00:51:20.820 ⇒ 00:51:39.740 Giselle Agot: when you’re working with multiple clients. It. It’s not possible. If you’re you’re for a project manager, just be assigned to just one client. And then just focus on that. You will be working with multiple clients. So you have to be attentive to every needs of these clients. You have to understand the reason why they needed our services.
384 00:51:39.760 ⇒ 00:51:53.399 Giselle Agot: So that’s when you can properly address and be able to manage the project, because you know what you are aligned to their goal. So if you’re being effective, especially to call same same as this one like.
385 00:51:53.590 ⇒ 00:51:56.830 Giselle Agot: that’s why I was coaching like I was multitasking. They wanted me to
386 00:51:56.990 ⇒ 00:52:04.437 Giselle Agot: really be attentive to details, because there are some important points being discussed in the call. So understand?
387 00:52:05.400 ⇒ 00:52:11.470 Giselle Agot: yeah. Then. Yeah, I think that that’s it. That I’d say skills as a good project.
388 00:52:11.470 ⇒ 00:52:33.060 Amber Lin: I totally agree with you and I honestly on these. I want to ask you. Follow up questions on each of them. So so for communication. I want to know what you think your biggest accomplishment in that area, like in your whole career was. And then I want to know what you think was the biggest mistake and lesson learned and
389 00:52:33.310 ⇒ 00:52:38.670 Amber Lin: like for you, and communication so, like the good and bad, I want to know both of them also, like.
390 00:52:39.130 ⇒ 00:52:43.760 Giselle Agot: I’m just thankful that my parents put me to good school here in the Philippines, like, okay.
391 00:52:43.760 ⇒ 00:53:00.380 Giselle Agot: which is our second language. So I’m just thankful, especially. My accent is not really that thick. We we have communities here in the Philippines that the accent is really think like thick, that you cannot. You really have a hard time understanding. So
392 00:53:01.290 ⇒ 00:53:28.489 Giselle Agot: I th! That’s 1 thing that I’d say. I’m very thankful because I’m able to communicate with the language, and that’s also got me to the Bpo. The Call Center company that was working for my 1st job. they needed someone who can communicate English to American clients. And that’s when I get to learn customer service, I get to understand why it’s important to make a client happy. Why do we need that in a company? Why do you need to keep the clients happy? So?
393 00:53:29.303 ⇒ 00:53:38.910 Giselle Agot: I think that’s the reason why it’s very important that you have good communication skills, and it really helped me in my journey at the project manager, because.
394 00:53:39.360 ⇒ 00:53:46.729 Amber Lin: What would you say is the biggest accomplishment that you’ve had in communications. What would that be like if you need to name one.
395 00:53:47.890 ⇒ 00:53:50.820 Giselle Agot: Accomplishment, I’d say.
396 00:53:50.820 ⇒ 00:53:53.860 Amber Lin: In your whole career, like in in that area.
397 00:53:57.260 ⇒ 00:54:06.849 Giselle Agot: when I first, st when I 1st got hired as a project manager that was in a it was the start of everything for me this. That’s how it got me here. So.
398 00:54:06.850 ⇒ 00:54:12.710 Amber Lin: Oh, I see. So you you told me many times, I remember. So I think it’s you were hired.
399 00:54:13.120 ⇒ 00:54:16.419 Amber Lin: not just because of your communication skills, even.
400 00:54:17.570 ⇒ 00:54:28.310 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I’m I’m hired because they needed someone who can communicate with their existing clients. And it’s an accomplishment for me. I see that as an accomplishment, because
401 00:54:28.480 ⇒ 00:54:42.699 Giselle Agot: the reason they heard before is I. They see that I am able to communicate. I am able to understand what the client is trying to convey the projects that I will be working with. So for me, that’s an accomplishment for me, with communication.
402 00:54:42.700 ⇒ 00:54:49.780 Amber Lin: Yeah, that totally is what would you say? Is your biggest mistake, and lessons learned in communications.
403 00:54:50.620 ⇒ 00:54:51.310 Giselle Agot: Yeah.
404 00:54:52.400 ⇒ 00:55:03.309 Giselle Agot: the lessons learned that I’ve that I’ve had over the years is not just being able to communicate, but also be able to understand what you’re saying, to understand what you’re discussing.
405 00:55:03.890 ⇒ 00:55:16.679 Giselle Agot: Very important, let’s say, in meeting, same as this one like you show the person that you are into the meet, you are into the discussion. So for me to show them that I give a recap every after call, like, Okay, so.
406 00:55:16.680 ⇒ 00:55:17.140 Amber Lin: Hmm.
407 00:55:17.140 ⇒ 00:55:34.930 Giselle Agot: We have discussed. So 1st is, we will be doing this doing that we will follow up next week. So they would know, okay, she’s she understands what we need. She understand what we’re looking for. So I did not have that before I joined Pme. And it’s in Bme that I learned that
408 00:55:34.940 ⇒ 00:55:53.740 Giselle Agot: this is how communication is important. You have to show them that you clearly understand what you are discussing. It’s not just like talking like Hi, Hello. And then that’s it. You have to understand, because it will show them that you’re into. You’re really into business. You’re really into helping them succeed. So yeah.
409 00:55:53.740 ⇒ 00:55:54.390 Amber Lin: Hmm.
410 00:56:04.000 ⇒ 00:56:04.770 Amber Lin: hey?
411 00:56:05.376 ⇒ 00:56:14.050 Amber Lin: That sounds that sounds awesome. And now I want to talk about attentiveness. So what’s your biggest accomplishment
412 00:56:14.430 ⇒ 00:56:18.189 Amber Lin: related to attentiveness in your career?
413 00:56:20.001 ⇒ 00:56:26.318 Giselle Agot: My biggest accomplishment is being attentive to my mistakes so that I can like
414 00:56:27.350 ⇒ 00:56:51.490 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I’m saying but I my mistakes. It’s very helpful that I get to receive feedback. I’m very open to feedback, because that’s when I get to know. Okay, so this is how others see me so this is something that I have to improve on. I I am very open to feedback. I don’t mind people telling me like you have to improve this. You have to improve that for me. That’s very important.
415 00:56:51.630 ⇒ 00:56:55.550 Giselle Agot: because I I there are times that I’d say
416 00:56:55.680 ⇒ 00:57:03.700 Giselle Agot: I’m good already on this one. But if people see some errors of improvement, that’s when I get to understand what I need to do next, what is my action plan?
417 00:57:03.700 ⇒ 00:57:04.629 Amber Lin: I know. Hmm.
418 00:57:04.860 ⇒ 00:57:14.310 Giselle Agot: So, being attentive, being you know, knowing your weakness will really help me. Improve.
419 00:57:15.210 ⇒ 00:57:18.170 Giselle Agot: I’m currently doing at the moment.
420 00:57:18.680 ⇒ 00:57:24.249 Amber Lin: Oh, so would you say I. I’m more so trying to understand. What would you say like?
421 00:57:24.380 ⇒ 00:57:30.669 Amber Lin: How did that enable, say a big accomplishment in your career or
422 00:57:31.480 ⇒ 00:57:36.320 Amber Lin: accomplishment related to when you were very attentive.
423 00:57:36.490 ⇒ 00:57:40.099 Amber Lin: 2 details, or attentive to certain things.
424 00:57:40.730 ⇒ 00:57:45.410 Amber Lin: I kind of want to know what the event related to that was.
425 00:57:45.800 ⇒ 00:58:08.870 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I I remember myself in the past, or one of the clients working with like I was multitasking, and I was not very attentive. So there were some things that there were questions they were asking me like, Sorry, can you? Ca, can you repeat that again? I would say that so they were like, Are you listening to me, or are you doing something else? So that that was when I realized that, okay, it’s really important to be attentive, because you will.
426 00:58:09.290 ⇒ 00:58:28.760 Giselle Agot: if I will put myself in the client’s shoes, and the person that I’m talking is not paying attention to what I’m saying. It’s going to make me really unhappy. So we we as much as possible. We don’t like unhappy clients. We want to make sure that we are doing what they’re expecting us to do since they are asking for our services. So
427 00:58:29.120 ⇒ 00:58:36.849 Giselle Agot: so it really helps. If you’re being attentive because you are able to be in aligned with the client’s goals.
428 00:58:47.030 ⇒ 00:58:59.290 Amber Lin: yeah, that sounds great. I’ve I know, I’ve asked you a lot of questions, we can go over a little bit for maybe about 5 min. I want you to be able to ask me questions as well.
429 00:59:00.910 ⇒ 00:59:04.520 Giselle Agot: What would be the next process after this one.
430 00:59:05.100 ⇒ 00:59:24.939 Amber Lin: I think this would be the final interview, because we we really want to start sending out offers and get people in as soon as possible, because the longer that hiring process extends, the more changes that might happen of good candidates might get other offers.
431 00:59:24.940 ⇒ 00:59:43.470 Amber Lin: things might change, so we try to move as fast as possible like back when I was get. I was getting hired. I think I didn’t even have a contract that started working, which is not good of me, but it was very, very fast. I would love. If you want to talk to the CEO we can.
432 00:59:43.470 ⇒ 00:59:56.949 Amber Lin: I can arrange the call for you to understand what’s what’s going on in the company. That wouldn’t really be an interview. That’s more about you. You can learn about what it’s like, because he has access to our recordings and my notes. So
433 00:59:56.950 ⇒ 01:00:13.850 Amber Lin: he knows what you are like already. But it’s more so. Oh, I want to see if this is a company that I want to grow with like, how long would I fit into this company? Do I see a path forward? If you have those type of questions that I think talking to. Utam is really a great
434 01:00:14.396 ⇒ 01:00:21.539 Amber Lin: a great place to know more about that. But this would be the final technical interview.
435 01:00:21.840 ⇒ 01:00:26.660 Amber Lin: and ideally, we want to send out offers next week.
436 01:00:27.350 ⇒ 01:00:29.100 Giselle Agot: Okay. Yeah.
437 01:00:36.640 ⇒ 01:00:49.819 Amber Lin: And I can ask Utam if he wants if he wants to talk to you. But I don’t think you have to worry too much about how that might go. Would you like to talk with our CEO.
438 01:00:50.190 ⇒ 01:00:55.962 Giselle Agot: Oh, very cool. Yeah, of course, definitely.
439 01:00:56.760 ⇒ 01:01:01.629 Amber Lin: Okay, I’ll ask him if he has time, because he, his his calendar, just gets really busy.
440 01:01:01.630 ⇒ 01:01:02.070 Giselle Agot: Yeah, I.
441 01:01:02.900 ⇒ 01:01:03.730 Amber Lin: Okay.
442 01:01:07.650 ⇒ 01:01:15.390 Amber Lin: Oh, yeah. And do you have any other questions?
443 01:01:16.462 ⇒ 01:01:17.670 Giselle Agot: No, I’m all good.
444 01:01:17.960 ⇒ 01:01:21.210 Amber Lin: Okay, yeah, I think
445 01:01:22.540 ⇒ 01:01:40.321 Amber Lin: now, I’m trying to sell you the positions. So there was. There was a few things that I noted that I do of why, I think you’re a fit, and hence why I’m out of it. I’m advocating for you to my bosses, and I and I hope you would
446 01:01:41.670 ⇒ 01:01:51.720 Amber Lin: like our company and like this position, I do think in the ways that we’re working, we probably would be a good fit, because you want things as very challenging.
447 01:01:52.634 ⇒ 01:02:11.749 Amber Lin: You’re willing to learn different things, and you like to set up processes, and we’re in the state where we’ve started to set up processes, but we don’t really have that much in place similar with hiring. 20 min ago, before I called you, I was still helping set up. Okay, what are
448 01:02:11.980 ⇒ 01:02:28.749 Amber Lin: screening interview is going to look like what our technical interview is going to look like. Like all of these are still in progress. There’s just me in the Pmo right now. And we’re hiring someone as the lead project manager, and we’re hiring another project manager.
449 01:02:29.088 ⇒ 01:02:42.270 Amber Lin: And I know I know you’re interviewing for the Coordinator role, but I think me personally, I think you will become a Pm. A full Pm. And even help help set up processes for the Pmo really soon. So
450 01:02:42.670 ⇒ 01:02:44.790 Amber Lin: I know you like to
451 01:02:44.980 ⇒ 01:03:03.629 Amber Lin: be challenged and be able to have ways to expand your skills and learn. So I think that’s that fits in our company really well, and we do support certifications. If that’s something you’re wondering, and they will compensate you for the courses you take, and the exam fees
452 01:03:04.190 ⇒ 01:03:10.009 Amber Lin: as long as it’s within reasonable budget, which, if you want to take the capm, if you want to take the Pmp.
453 01:03:10.250 ⇒ 01:03:11.020 Giselle Agot: Yeah.
454 01:03:11.020 ⇒ 01:03:31.719 Amber Lin: I think this will be a great time, because I’m taking the cap. I don’t have a Pm. I don’t have 3 years, so I can’t take the Pnp, but you do, and your last employer will definitely help sign the form that. Oh, this person has this amount of experience. So I think that’s the 1st thing you would start doing after you join. Get a pmp. On the company.
455 01:03:32.170 ⇒ 01:03:32.580 Giselle Agot: Yes.
456 01:03:32.580 ⇒ 01:03:42.430 Amber Lin: Yeah. And then I know your family is really important to you. And I was just wondering how what do you think a company can do to help support that
457 01:03:42.790 ⇒ 01:03:49.610 Amber Lin: like other than paying you other than that like, is there any policies you think that would help
458 01:03:50.780 ⇒ 01:03:51.350 Amber Lin: got it.
459 01:03:51.350 ⇒ 01:03:53.129 Giselle Agot: What do you mean? Like? Sorry?
460 01:03:53.562 ⇒ 01:03:56.589 Amber Lin: Like in terms of oh, you could
461 01:03:57.212 ⇒ 01:04:02.137 Amber Lin: I guess, in terms of maybe like hours, or maybe
462 01:04:03.260 ⇒ 01:04:17.800 Amber Lin: I don’t know if you still need maternity leave. I don’t think I don’t know if that applies. But say, if you have something with your child, how that would work I don’t know. Yeah, but that’s could. That could be some, a process that we put in place, and they’ll be willing to learn.
463 01:04:18.440 ⇒ 01:04:27.429 Giselle Agot: I’m I’m I’m good like I I don’t have a high, a lot of demands. I’m okay with following us holidays. If ever I’ll be considering
464 01:04:29.087 ⇒ 01:04:32.219 Giselle Agot: ever used. I’m actually used to us holidays of.
465 01:04:32.220 ⇒ 01:04:32.730 Amber Lin: Wow!
466 01:04:32.730 ⇒ 01:04:38.600 Giselle Agot: Last few years. So I don’t celebrate Philippine holidays already, like I don’t anymore.
467 01:04:38.870 ⇒ 01:04:56.450 Amber Lin: See all our Philippine teams. We just let the every everyone follow their local holidays. So it’s most. It’s more of your choice, because usually us holidays, the clients are off to. So there’s just there’s nothing really much to do, because the clients not there either.
468 01:04:56.930 ⇒ 01:05:12.069 Giselle Agot: Because if ever it’s a Philippine holiday, if the client will be there, so if if it’s a meeting set on that day, so it’s very it goes to waste. So I prefer us holidays, because actually, I have meetings. And
469 01:05:12.750 ⇒ 01:05:16.339 Giselle Agot: and I want I I like Thanksgiving holidays too long.
470 01:05:16.886 ⇒ 01:05:17.980 Amber Lin: I see.
471 01:05:17.980 ⇒ 01:05:18.650 Giselle Agot: So, yeah.
472 01:05:18.650 ⇒ 01:05:23.640 Amber Lin: Yeah, but yeah, those are just the things I I don’t have. Like
473 01:05:24.100 ⇒ 01:05:30.209 Amber Lin: I I haven’t experienced like having maternal leave whenever it’s the holidays, and then that’s it.
474 01:05:30.210 ⇒ 01:05:34.410 Amber Lin: I see I see and
475 01:05:35.430 ⇒ 01:05:46.819 Amber Lin: sorry. I’m just thinking of different things that I wanted. I wanted to say. I think in terms of management and your autonomy you will be pretty much
476 01:05:47.100 ⇒ 01:05:48.040 Amber Lin: of.
477 01:05:48.200 ⇒ 01:06:09.409 Amber Lin: There won’t be micromanaging, because there’s just no one to micromanage you, and they have no time to micromanage you either, so you will be able to make your decisions, and I think once you join, we’ll start to have Pm. Weekly meetings, and then there we can do our own retro and decide. Oh, how do we want to go forward with that? And
478 01:06:09.430 ⇒ 01:06:33.599 Amber Lin: yeah, I think in terms of the processes you want to follow. We’re in the steps of setting that up, so you will be following essentially the own pro, your own process that you set up so I that’s something that I really like to. I don’t like being people telling me exactly what to do, and in that case I’ll do it, but I’ll just do it, and that’s the end of it. I won’t make anything new out of it.
479 01:06:33.920 ⇒ 01:06:36.900 Giselle Agot: Yeah, but I’d say meetings are very important, because
480 01:06:37.520 ⇒ 01:06:39.850 Giselle Agot: builds connection as well to the.
481 01:06:40.340 ⇒ 01:06:41.920 Amber Lin: And relationships and.
482 01:06:42.760 ⇒ 01:06:54.629 Giselle Agot: If if you’re just working, that’s it. There’s no connection. So and if it’s a team meeting, it’s it’s faster because you get to discuss that in the call with them that you need the projects that you’re working on.
483 01:06:55.130 ⇒ 01:07:02.749 Giselle Agot: It’s sometimes it’s written differently. If you’re typing it, you’re asking a question. If it’s on a call, it’s you get better understanding.
484 01:07:02.750 ⇒ 01:07:03.140 Amber Lin: Hmm.
485 01:07:03.140 ⇒ 01:07:08.969 Giselle Agot: I’m I’m team meeting. Actually, I I would suggest to have that.
486 01:07:09.090 ⇒ 01:07:13.308 Giselle Agot: And as well as 5 meetings like meeting with the clients bi-weekly.
487 01:07:13.770 ⇒ 01:07:22.350 Giselle Agot: having a relationship with the client like telling them I’m here. I’m your project manager. I will take care of you. I’ll take care of your project business. So yeah.
488 01:07:23.350 ⇒ 01:07:41.919 Amber Lin: Yeah, that sounds great, and in terms of the pay, I think will discuss with you. On the pay. I think. Usually we start with a trial period. Maybe part time. But if we have a long advance, that will be full time, and then after a certain period, which would be
489 01:07:41.920 ⇒ 01:07:58.199 Amber Lin: it. It’ll be definitely less than a month after the trial period. It’s usually 2 weeks, and then we decide, hey, do we want to move on to full time, and then full time means like you’ll be on a salary. So it’ll be stable financially. I know they’re trying also trying to put in
490 01:07:58.490 ⇒ 01:08:10.989 Amber Lin: incentives. So bonuses. We’re still deciding for what the bonus is based on. And then I know they’re creating leveling guides. So as for the Pmo, like
491 01:08:11.120 ⇒ 01:08:30.379 Amber Lin: you go project Coordinator, project, manager, lead project manager of how what that looks like? So I know this is something very important to you to be able to support your family. I just want to let you know like, that’s why you’re saying there’s always the room for discussion. I think they’re thinking about giving a raise to a few.
492 01:08:30.520 ⇒ 01:08:35.770 Amber Lin: How I think it’s Ryan. And then.
493 01:08:36.330 ⇒ 01:08:43.170 Amber Lin: Mustafa, I know they’re talking about that, because they were very proactive, and they did really? Well, so
494 01:08:43.430 ⇒ 01:08:51.690 Amber Lin: there’s always room to discuss. If you want more money, if that’s something that’s of your interest, which is of my interest as well.
495 01:08:52.560 ⇒ 01:09:07.442 Giselle Agot: I would talk to my husband yesterday, and it was told me like, Were you sleeping when you answered the question like, Oh, that was. That was actually what I had in my heart like I, because he was like you should have. You should have totally money. That much.
496 01:09:08.148 ⇒ 01:09:10.599 Amber Lin: No, I think it’s very important.
497 01:09:11.399 ⇒ 01:09:24.929 Amber Lin: Yeah, because I I work for pay like, yes, I want to work for a company that I like. I want to work for people I like. So I I’m not miserable, but I work for money. So I asked them for a raise
498 01:09:25.089 ⇒ 01:09:26.579 Amber Lin: 2 weeks ago, so.
499 01:09:27.162 ⇒ 01:09:31.200 Giselle Agot: Yeah, we shared my husband the the interview that we had yesterday, and I was like.
500 01:09:31.760 ⇒ 01:09:37.890 Giselle Agot: I told. I told her that. What’s my main motivation? And I told her, it’s money
501 01:09:38.620 ⇒ 01:09:41.130 Giselle Agot: speaking when you answer that like it’s.
502 01:09:41.130 ⇒ 01:09:42.090 Amber Lin: Well.
503 01:09:43.050 ⇒ 01:09:44.390 Giselle Agot: They’ll upfront like it.
504 01:09:44.390 ⇒ 01:09:45.760 Amber Lin: Yeah, I know. I know.
505 01:09:45.760 ⇒ 01:09:53.460 Giselle Agot: Don’t say that I need money, but for me like it’s what I that’s my motivation. What do I tell? What do I? What do I see my motivation.
506 01:09:53.460 ⇒ 01:09:59.520 Amber Lin: If you don’t say that you might not get what you want, so you might suffer if you don’t say it. So that’s that’s how I think, too.
507 01:09:59.520 ⇒ 01:10:08.209 Giselle Agot: And I told him that you smiled and you were. You agreed. And I was like, Oh, my! Gosh, you’re not gonna be and I told him I’m already set up for another interview, so I think
508 01:10:09.480 ⇒ 01:10:18.529 Giselle Agot: she was laughing so he was like, you should have said that it was like, it’s fine. I’m just being honest, that’s what that’s my motivation. Actually.
509 01:10:18.530 ⇒ 01:10:48.459 Amber Lin: Yeah, I appreciate it. I think that I think that’s all I had for this interview. If you want, I can. I can ask Tom if you, if you want to get to know more about the company you could talk to him. I think he has a pretty cool vision for where the company is going, and you can also discuss payment and that next step logistics with him. But I know that we do want to send out offers next week. I have. I think.
510 01:10:49.150 ⇒ 01:10:52.820 Amber Lin: one or 2 more candidates that I’m talking to, and
511 01:10:53.990 ⇒ 01:10:58.500 Amber Lin: I think that’s we’re pretty much at the final stage of our decisions.
512 01:10:58.790 ⇒ 01:10:59.540 Giselle Agot: Okay.
513 01:10:59.780 ⇒ 01:11:03.130 Amber Lin: Yeah, thank you for your time.
514 01:11:03.130 ⇒ 01:11:04.889 Giselle Agot: Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Amber.
515 01:11:04.890 ⇒ 01:11:05.930 Amber Lin: Yeah. Thanks.
516 01:11:06.970 ⇒ 01:11:07.550 Giselle Agot: Bye.
517 01:11:07.550 ⇒ 01:11:08.450 Amber Lin: Bye-bye.