Meeting Title: PM Candidate Evaluation Sync Date: 2025-07-30 Meeting participants: Amber Lin, Alexander Lubka
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1 00:00:29.880 ⇒ 00:00:31.290 Alexander Lubka: Well, hello!
2 00:00:32.360 ⇒ 00:00:37.979 Amber Lin: Hello! I am working in a coffee shop because I, my Internet is so bad at home.
3 00:00:39.190 ⇒ 00:00:39.720 Alexander Lubka: Oh, really.
4 00:00:39.720 ⇒ 00:00:40.880 Amber Lin: Yeah.
5 00:00:41.000 ⇒ 00:01:01.590 Amber Lin: I think like, I think the situation with our Internet is, we plug it, plug it out and plug it in, and then it kicks someone out, and then our Internet works, and then someone else replugs it and they kick stuff kicks us off. So the apartment, the whole apartment just doesn’t have enough. So
6 00:01:02.930 ⇒ 00:01:04.090 Amber Lin: yeah.
7 00:01:04.090 ⇒ 00:01:05.390 Alexander Lubka: Coffee shops, though right.
8 00:01:05.390 ⇒ 00:01:07.989 Amber Lin: Yeah, I do. So I’m fine. I just. It’s just like
9 00:01:08.290 ⇒ 00:01:11.260 Amber Lin: there’s a lot of background noise, and I don’t have my headphones.
10 00:01:11.730 ⇒ 00:01:13.160 Alexander Lubka: Actually can’t hear anything.
11 00:01:13.420 ⇒ 00:01:16.559 Amber Lin: Oh, that’s really good, like Zoom’s really good with that. Then.
12 00:01:16.560 ⇒ 00:01:26.050 Alexander Lubka: Zooms is really good like. When I talk to people at work when I’m in the city, when I’m here, and you know, I hear like a car going by, or like a fire.
13 00:01:26.050 ⇒ 00:01:26.480 Amber Lin: Okay.
14 00:01:26.480 ⇒ 00:01:28.740 Alexander Lubka: Thing. People usually don’t hear it, so Zoom’s crushing it.
15 00:01:28.740 ⇒ 00:01:31.410 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, that’s awesome.
16 00:01:31.810 ⇒ 00:01:33.159 Alexander Lubka: So you sound good to me.
17 00:01:33.400 ⇒ 00:01:43.229 Amber Lin: Yay, okay, I know it’s really really late for you. It’s 9, 30 I’ll try to keep it short, hasn’t left any comments. But.
18 00:01:44.300 ⇒ 00:01:46.400 Amber Lin: like I, I do.
19 00:01:46.900 ⇒ 00:02:02.019 Amber Lin: I do think this person has when they have the qualities as a Pm. We need like comparing him to the the other candidate. I interviewed the other candidates in Pakistan, like, I think, knows what he wants, and that’s kind of what we want for
20 00:02:02.250 ⇒ 00:02:11.839 Amber Lin: a Pm. Like he like, based on what he said and based on Whatam said and based on
21 00:02:12.280 ⇒ 00:02:17.110 Amber Lin: my impression of his energy. I think he has a qualities for a Pm. But I don’t know
22 00:02:17.270 ⇒ 00:02:34.910 Amber Lin: his technical skills for a Pm, I think that’s my, that’s my concern, especially since we don’t. We’re no longer considering. Oh, we were immediately gonna hire him as a head of Pmo. I don’t need to worry about that anymore. So it’s just more so like I can he
23 00:02:35.250 ⇒ 00:02:40.480 Amber Lin: succeed? On a project. I don’t know how to assess that.
24 00:02:40.890 ⇒ 00:02:44.619 Amber Lin: because everybody can just say they, Oh, I do this, this, this, this.
25 00:02:46.080 ⇒ 00:02:47.160 Alexander Lubka: We? Yeah, we can.
26 00:02:47.650 ⇒ 00:02:54.500 Alexander Lubka: we can either develop a case study that we want them to try out and ask them like we give them a scenario of a project, and.
27 00:02:55.410 ⇒ 00:02:57.490 Alexander Lubka: So he would ask him how he’d approach it.
28 00:02:58.149 ⇒ 00:03:04.730 Alexander Lubka: And we could try to use it like we can tailor it towards something you think is more specific to our projects?
29 00:03:05.030 ⇒ 00:03:05.510 Amber Lin: Definitely.
30 00:03:05.510 ⇒ 00:03:12.650 Alexander Lubka: With him, and if I mean I I’m happy to do with you if Utam’s fine with that.
31 00:03:13.030 ⇒ 00:03:17.457 Alexander Lubka: Obviously I know that I know him, but he’s not. He’s not like a friend, but I know him.
32 00:03:17.690 ⇒ 00:03:24.339 Amber Lin: Yeah. So I think that’s fine. I think your insight is more valuable than whatever conflict of interest there might be. And it sounds pretty
33 00:03:24.680 ⇒ 00:03:31.240 Amber Lin: like it doesn’t have to be a long interview. So I don’t think there’s a problem with that. We can double check that with them.
34 00:03:31.240 ⇒ 00:03:38.299 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, I’m happy to do it. I yeah. I took a I don’t know if he told you I took a course with him about 4 years ago or so.
35 00:03:39.520 ⇒ 00:03:52.910 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, when. So when I was so I was a project manager at like a consulting firm. And when I wanted to get back into like tech. I wanted to get more technical experience. So we both took this. We took this technical project management course at Columbia.
36 00:03:54.200 ⇒ 00:03:55.259 Alexander Lubka: That’s where I met him.
37 00:03:55.260 ⇒ 00:03:56.510 Amber Lin: Oh, okay.
38 00:03:56.510 ⇒ 00:03:57.230 Alexander Lubka: Yeah.
39 00:03:57.630 ⇒ 00:03:58.830 Amber Lin: Yeah, that’s cool.
40 00:03:58.830 ⇒ 00:04:06.770 Alexander Lubka: So you should be relatively technical or technical enough for this. We can assess that, but he shouldn’t. I don’t know why, he said. He want to be a CTO.
41 00:04:06.770 ⇒ 00:04:11.570 Amber Lin: I I don’t know. It could be a typo from like transcripts or AI like I.
42 00:04:12.010 ⇒ 00:04:25.390 Amber Lin: I really don’t know why he wanted to go the CTO track. Especially given. And then, later on, he said, he doesn’t want highly technical stuff. I think that’s contradicting to a CTO. Specifically.
43 00:04:25.660 ⇒ 00:04:26.570 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, that’s strange.
44 00:04:26.570 ⇒ 00:04:31.979 Amber Lin: Yeah. So so like, I don’t know about that.
45 00:04:32.680 ⇒ 00:04:50.550 Amber Lin: And then I just wanna ask you specifically what I notice is that he said. He want to change his work to Agile. He put in a lot of effort, he like, which is very commendable, that he worked with a lot of stakeholders, made all the processes. But the thing is, it ended up
46 00:04:50.810 ⇒ 00:05:04.760 Amber Lin: reverting back a little bit because the owner wanted to do things that way. And I’m just concerned. Why did we go that direction? Why do we not consult the owner? Like?
47 00:05:05.260 ⇒ 00:05:15.599 Amber Lin: Is he too strong headed to listen like? That’s my! That’s my concern, because assertiveness on the flip side is like not taking any advice, and not considering other people’s opinions.
48 00:05:17.250 ⇒ 00:05:22.410 Amber Lin: That’s why I guess that’s the only quality that I’m worried about, based on the information I gathered.
49 00:05:23.480 ⇒ 00:05:25.520 Amber Lin: Okay, so.
50 00:05:25.670 ⇒ 00:05:26.650 Alexander Lubka: So
51 00:05:27.200 ⇒ 00:05:33.780 Alexander Lubka: you’re saying he told you about a scenario where he wanted to implement Agile, and the owner of the company didn’t want to, but he did, anyway.
52 00:05:34.563 ⇒ 00:06:00.879 Amber Lin: I like that. I would. I wouldn’t needed more information on that. I don’t want to make the assumption that I don’t know if he asked the owner when he started. I just know that he put in a lot of effort. It was a long, it was a lengthy process of transition to Agile, and he did eventually get stakeholder buying. But it was never. It didn’t end up being agile because the company, or perhaps the owner.
53 00:06:01.310 ⇒ 00:06:20.430 Amber Lin: It is more is more waterfall. Maybe so sorry I’m re repeating myself. So there’s 2 possibilities. One is that the company is not suited for agile. It’s a more waterfall company which I’m lacking information on. What the company is like
54 00:06:20.560 ⇒ 00:06:24.919 Amber Lin: 2. I don’t know if he consulted the owner
55 00:06:25.060 ⇒ 00:06:41.989 Amber Lin: from the beginning, which, because in the end he said, Oh, the owner! It didn’t see that the owner has a strong visions about what the company should be like, etc, so I don’t know if he consulted the owner before he started. Also missing information on that.
56 00:06:42.170 ⇒ 00:06:42.685 Amber Lin: Okay.
57 00:06:45.280 ⇒ 00:06:49.860 Alexander Lubka: Okay. So I think what we can do is set up a.
58 00:06:50.320 ⇒ 00:07:14.800 Alexander Lubka: you know my availability. So like, if and if you just want to set something up when or have rico do it whenever if Utam’s fine with us meeting. But we can. My sounds like my 1st step is to just schedule some time with both of us and him, and we can. We can ask him to clarify some things if there’s anything from. Also, if Utam, it’s seem pretty positive.
59 00:07:14.800 ⇒ 00:07:15.530 Amber Lin: Yeah.
60 00:07:15.530 ⇒ 00:07:22.790 Alexander Lubka: But if if you want to ask him more about the situation and probe it more, and we wanna if you want to ask him more about his technical experience and his ambitions via CTO.
61 00:07:23.380 ⇒ 00:07:24.209 Alexander Lubka: We can grill that a little.
62 00:07:24.510 ⇒ 00:07:24.810 Amber Lin: So.
63 00:07:24.810 ⇒ 00:07:31.439 Alexander Lubka: Little bit more and then after that, if you’re still apprehensive about anything.
64 00:07:31.540 ⇒ 00:07:34.960 Alexander Lubka: we can we can develop a case study.
65 00:07:35.970 ⇒ 00:07:43.710 Alexander Lubka: So I can. I guess I’ll ask you this. Would you want to do that in conjunction, or would you like to do an interview another interview with both of us and him. First.st
66 00:07:45.062 ⇒ 00:07:46.750 Amber Lin: What would be.
67 00:07:46.920 ⇒ 00:07:51.100 Amber Lin: I’m doubtful on how much a case study can extract.
68 00:07:51.340 ⇒ 00:07:54.489 Amber Lin: mostly because case studies can be
69 00:07:54.980 ⇒ 00:08:03.999 Amber Lin: published in terms of your answers, but you don’t always implement what you say, because it’s sometimes just too hard, or just. You just don’t have that much attention.
70 00:08:04.290 ⇒ 00:08:12.160 Alexander Lubka: Well, do you want to do? Would it be better to do a case? Study with him during the interview? So like you, because I guess I would be concerned if he’d like ran it through jet gpt, or something.
71 00:08:13.224 ⇒ 00:08:19.539 Amber Lin: I think so. What would the case study look like? I know it’s like, it’s a
72 00:08:19.780 ⇒ 00:08:25.799 Amber Lin: big question immediately to ask, but what would you want? What type of case study would you want.
73 00:08:26.650 ⇒ 00:08:34.469 Alexander Lubka: So I would. I would ask him to run us through a scenario a pro a scenario project so like, come up with an example
74 00:08:34.950 ⇒ 00:08:39.990 Alexander Lubka: like you may deal with like you could do like a what is it? What was it like? A matter.
75 00:08:39.990 ⇒ 00:08:40.350 Amber Lin: Oh!
76 00:08:40.350 ⇒ 00:08:40.870 Alexander Lubka: Okay.
77 00:08:40.870 ⇒ 00:09:03.700 Amber Lin: I I will just. I think I’ll run either through madam or the clients just never showed up, and we have no requirements, so I think it’s avoidable, or with Eden right now client joins, stand up and ruins rituals which I I have what I want as a solution, and I know why it’s happening. I want pro. I probably want to see his take.
78 00:09:04.270 ⇒ 00:09:08.770 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, I think if we can like, give him a example of a messy project, and how he would deal with it.
79 00:09:08.770 ⇒ 00:09:09.130 Amber Lin: Okay.
80 00:09:09.300 ⇒ 00:09:12.780 Alexander Lubka: I also want to learn more about like how he would
81 00:09:12.920 ⇒ 00:09:15.360 Alexander Lubka: deal with the different phases of a project.
82 00:09:15.920 ⇒ 00:09:38.209 Alexander Lubka: Wanna. Also, I would also want to hear from him like what? Without giving him any like signal of like what he knows of the different phases. What! He! How he would run! What rituals will he mention unprovoked? How he would run those rituals and like, and what he would do. If like a risk came up, or.
83 00:09:38.860 ⇒ 00:09:40.849 Alexander Lubka: Came up, how he would deal with that.
84 00:09:40.850 ⇒ 00:09:54.092 Amber Lin: I see he did mention today of Santa planning, grooming, etc, that that was part of the things that he was trying to implement with agile as well. So I think he does know the practices.
85 00:09:54.770 ⇒ 00:09:57.490 Amber Lin: so my concern was more of like.
86 00:09:58.510 ⇒ 00:10:06.929 Amber Lin: Was it his opinion? Was this his idea, or was it mostly like what’s actually good for the company and accepted with the companies?
87 00:10:07.530 ⇒ 00:10:17.649 Amber Lin: Because maybe a good case there was that maybe he was the only one that saw the benefit and people was was more resistant, and in that case, like maybe in our company.
88 00:10:18.753 ⇒ 00:10:27.630 Amber Lin: if that company he would know in our company, he would have an opportunity to like improve
89 00:10:27.760 ⇒ 00:10:30.740 Amber Lin: our processes. So it really depends on
90 00:10:31.200 ⇒ 00:10:35.679 Amber Lin: how team came up to that decision and why it ended up like that.
91 00:10:36.320 ⇒ 00:10:43.910 Alexander Lubka: Okay, we’ll set up some time. We’ll have Rico set up some time for us, if yeah.
92 00:10:43.910 ⇒ 00:10:46.759 Alexander Lubka: If, like Friday at 6 o’clock works, we could do that.
93 00:10:46.760 ⇒ 00:10:56.420 Amber Lin: Yeah. Can you give me a few options just just in case. So Friday, after after 6, or just at 6.
94 00:10:56.420 ⇒ 00:10:58.550 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, after 7, 6, and after.
95 00:10:58.810 ⇒ 00:11:03.895 Amber Lin: Okay, 6 and after.
96 00:11:04.850 ⇒ 00:11:06.639 Alexander Lubka: Yeah. Same thing for Monday.
97 00:11:07.425 ⇒ 00:11:08.210 Amber Lin: Okay.
98 00:11:08.660 ⇒ 00:11:22.299 Amber Lin: Friday 6. And after I think that’s enough options. I will. And then for me, I should list out scenarios
99 00:11:23.600 ⇒ 00:11:30.830 Amber Lin: to use as case studies, and also of
100 00:11:31.510 ⇒ 00:11:33.539 Amber Lin: my questions that I just told you.
101 00:11:33.940 ⇒ 00:11:42.410 Alexander Lubka: Yep, and then whenever we get that interview, we’ll just sync. We can either if you have time, or you just want to do it over slack. We’ll sync on the different case. This case study and okay.
102 00:11:43.349 ⇒ 00:11:48.080 Amber Lin: Maybe we can sync like 10 min or 15 min beforehand.
103 00:11:48.080 ⇒ 00:11:49.335 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, that’s fine, too.
104 00:11:49.650 ⇒ 00:11:50.290 Amber Lin: Okay.
105 00:11:50.616 ⇒ 00:11:56.810 Alexander Lubka: So are there any other? Can any other candidates in The Hopper for this role that you know about?
106 00:12:02.160 ⇒ 00:12:04.870 Alexander Lubka: You’re on mute? If that’s intentional.
107 00:12:05.710 ⇒ 00:12:17.420 Amber Lin: Sorry I my face flipped the page on my phone. So there’s this other candidate that I interviewed. His name is Usama. I did the 1st round screening interview with him. He has not talked to him yet.
108 00:12:17.850 ⇒ 00:12:19.160 Amber Lin: so
109 00:12:20.646 ⇒ 00:12:33.069 Amber Lin: I think he would just be a Pm. I don’t know if he would invest in the processes as a Pm. He’s a
110 00:12:33.180 ⇒ 00:12:41.609 Amber Lin: he’s organized, and I think he is very diligent, and he will do the engage with stakeholders, and that
111 00:12:41.730 ⇒ 00:12:45.240 Amber Lin: but I think let’s see.
112 00:12:46.310 ⇒ 00:12:47.670 Alexander Lubka: Like not inspiring.
113 00:12:48.320 ⇒ 00:12:48.950 Amber Lin: Yes.
114 00:12:49.390 ⇒ 00:13:00.419 Amber Lin: yes, less, I would say, has a little bit like he’s a different type of leadership style that you would see with denay. And I think Renee is a lot more assertive.
115 00:13:01.408 ⇒ 00:13:06.740 Amber Lin: And I would say, extroverted
116 00:13:06.870 ⇒ 00:13:22.810 Amber Lin: type of interacting and doing things. I would say we saw as a bit more. Intro, like introverted, not as an in personalities, and probably in in ways that they deal with things.
117 00:13:23.680 ⇒ 00:13:25.110 Amber Lin: Yeah, that’s good.
118 00:13:25.110 ⇒ 00:13:27.590 Alexander Lubka: And do you think? And he’s based in Pakistan.
119 00:13:28.542 ⇒ 00:13:29.970 Amber Lin: He’s in Pakistan.
120 00:13:30.360 ⇒ 00:13:33.609 Alexander Lubka: Do you think that’s an issue for our us based clients.
121 00:13:33.610 ⇒ 00:13:34.519 Amber Lin: To figure it out.
122 00:13:35.335 ⇒ 00:13:36.050 Amber Lin: His
123 00:13:36.210 ⇒ 00:13:59.280 Amber Lin: is English is fine. He has worked for us clients before. So the benefit I think we’re trading time zone, and perhaps travel to classes which we don’t always. We don’t always need like gutam, and Robert usually travels. We’re sacrificing that for like price benefits.
124 00:13:59.460 ⇒ 00:14:05.380 Amber Lin: But do you think if we just need Apm. To help Pm. Projects, you would
125 00:14:06.280 ⇒ 00:14:12.370 Amber Lin: succeed? I don’t know if he will excel, but he can. I think he can survive and succeed.
126 00:14:12.530 ⇒ 00:14:13.140 Alexander Lubka: Yeah.
127 00:14:13.140 ⇒ 00:14:14.660 Amber Lin: That’s my initial impression.
128 00:14:15.360 ⇒ 00:14:16.090 Alexander Lubka: Okay.
129 00:14:16.780 ⇒ 00:14:23.419 Amber Lin: I haven’t interviewed him on his technical abilities, which is initial screening to to see where he’s at and what he wants.
130 00:14:23.920 ⇒ 00:14:24.570 Alexander Lubka: Okay.
131 00:14:26.010 ⇒ 00:14:30.190 Alexander Lubka: If it if it’s worth talking about.
132 00:14:30.430 ⇒ 00:14:33.170 Alexander Lubka: we can keep. We’ll see how it goes with Utam and him.
133 00:14:34.480 ⇒ 00:14:39.349 Alexander Lubka: Sorry, I guess we’ll see, so did you recommend him for the next interview?
134 00:14:40.435 ⇒ 00:14:48.120 Amber Lin: I think it’s worth a screen. But if we’re already considering Vinay, do you think it’s still worth it to screen
135 00:14:48.724 ⇒ 00:14:55.650 Amber Lin: screen Osama? Or do we wanna interview the name 1st and then screen Osama.
136 00:14:57.254 ⇒ 00:15:03.039 Alexander Lubka: I would keep if you’re if you’re not a no on Usama, I would keep going with both.
137 00:15:03.350 ⇒ 00:15:05.308 Amber Lin: Okay. Okay. Okay. Sounds good.
138 00:15:05.830 ⇒ 00:15:07.819 Alexander Lubka: I’ll translate that, too.
139 00:15:08.830 ⇒ 00:15:13.960 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, why not? And I’m sure there’s like, I mean, I don’t know what the I don’t know what the the
140 00:15:16.580 ⇒ 00:15:17.920 Alexander Lubka: the salaries of these things.
141 00:15:17.920 ⇒ 00:15:19.100 Amber Lin: But I’m sure that.
142 00:15:19.100 ⇒ 00:15:24.480 Alexander Lubka: Usam is less than Finnay. So that’s a consideration.
143 00:15:25.170 ⇒ 00:15:32.029 Amber Lin: Yeah, totally, if we need, especially if we need more than one more additional project manager, I think
144 00:15:32.150 ⇒ 00:15:34.940 Amber Lin: we could bring someone on part time
145 00:15:35.050 ⇒ 00:15:43.110 Amber Lin: for now, or bring i 1 of them off part time. Okay, I’ll I’ll I noted that down. I’ll communicate to Utah.
146 00:15:43.560 ⇒ 00:15:50.339 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, I mean, I’m sure you I mean, I’m not sure but you probably, if you’re not comfortable, you might be able to start both part time.
147 00:15:50.900 ⇒ 00:15:51.460 Amber Lin: Hmm.
148 00:15:51.460 ⇒ 00:15:52.470 Alexander Lubka: Like them both.
149 00:15:53.109 ⇒ 00:15:54.400 Amber Lin: And then compare.
150 00:15:55.270 ⇒ 00:15:57.159 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, they’re
151 00:15:58.520 ⇒ 00:16:05.730 Alexander Lubka: yeah. Split up the workload soon. Cause like the I, the idea ultimately is to give one of them all your workload right?
152 00:16:06.860 ⇒ 00:16:08.209 Alexander Lubka: What you’re drowning in.
153 00:16:09.585 ⇒ 00:16:10.260 Alexander Lubka: Yes.
154 00:16:10.770 ⇒ 00:16:25.750 Amber Lin: I. It still feels a bit unreal to me, I and I don’t really know how that would turn out like I don’t really see what other thing I would be doing. So I feel like, oh, I’m just giving my job away. We’ll see what they come up with.
155 00:16:26.250 ⇒ 00:16:29.250 Alexander Lubka: Well, it sounds like well, like, do you think the Chief of Staff Thing is?
156 00:16:29.250 ⇒ 00:16:33.230 Alexander Lubka: Partly because because Robert’s not gonna be as available.
157 00:16:37.180 ⇒ 00:16:41.989 Amber Lin: I don’t think so.
158 00:16:42.180 ⇒ 00:16:50.100 Amber Lin: There’s just not enough hands to help start things like they’re already working 60 h weeks.
159 00:16:50.210 ⇒ 00:16:54.639 Alexander Lubka: Yeah. So they just with what they are doing now. And.
160 00:16:54.740 ⇒ 00:17:00.290 Amber Lin: They just have no time to start new things, but I don’t know what the new things are. Gonna be.
161 00:17:00.820 ⇒ 00:17:01.490 Alexander Lubka: Yeah.
162 00:17:01.490 ⇒ 00:17:02.270 Amber Lin: That’s all.
163 00:17:02.670 ⇒ 00:17:09.689 Alexander Lubka: So so it could be like a combination of you managing a couple of projects, but doing whatever operations E or Staff.
164 00:17:09.690 ⇒ 00:17:10.020 Amber Lin: Yeah.
165 00:17:10.020 ⇒ 00:17:11.419 Alexander Lubka: Things that they need.
166 00:17:11.609 ⇒ 00:17:13.099 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think so, too.
167 00:17:13.319 ⇒ 00:17:16.079 Alexander Lubka: So you might just need one, and if you think one’s better than the other.
168 00:17:17.099 ⇒ 00:17:19.809 Alexander Lubka: might as well go with the whoever you think is the best fit.
169 00:17:20.460 ⇒ 00:17:23.049 Amber Lin: Okay, okay, yeah, that sounds good.
170 00:17:23.050 ⇒ 00:17:29.759 Alexander Lubka: Do you know, like the timeline? So if you, if both, if one of these clients works out or thinks, is that we think is a good fit.
171 00:17:29.990 ⇒ 00:17:36.919 Alexander Lubka: are we? Are we still have to wait for like some contracts to land or something? Or do you know the timeline we’d be able to hire somebody.
172 00:17:38.203 ⇒ 00:17:39.150 Amber Lin: We have
173 00:17:39.260 ⇒ 00:17:54.439 Amber Lin: more contracts now. So we can definitely start someone part time. We have needs for that. I will need to confirm when we can start some full time, or start 2 of both of them part time I think that’s something
174 00:17:54.790 ⇒ 00:17:57.899 Amber Lin: to confirm when we talk to. I’ll note that down.
175 00:17:58.310 ⇒ 00:17:58.890 Alexander Lubka: Yep.
176 00:17:59.260 ⇒ 00:17:59.920 Amber Lin: Start.
177 00:17:59.920 ⇒ 00:18:00.500 Alexander Lubka: Okay.
178 00:18:00.500 ⇒ 00:18:04.020 Amber Lin: That through. Okay.
179 00:18:07.100 ⇒ 00:18:13.097 Alexander Lubka: The good. I guess the good thing is like they they pay is like, if you start somebody in August you don’t have to pay until October.
180 00:18:13.500 ⇒ 00:18:14.160 Amber Lin: Woo-hoo!
181 00:18:14.930 ⇒ 00:18:16.300 Amber Lin: Why is that.
182 00:18:17.490 ⇒ 00:18:23.489 Alexander Lubka: Well, because it’s it’s like a month accrual. So like when I started, I started in May, but I didn’t get my 1st check till July first.st
183 00:18:23.840 ⇒ 00:18:32.740 Amber Lin: Oh, I see, I see that’s true. So if they foresee like 2 2 months, we closing something, they can just get them on.
184 00:18:33.350 ⇒ 00:18:45.499 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, so like you could start somebody if you like, if you got some contracts. Got a 6 month contract or something you need to do. Project manager. You start them, you know. Start in August, and they’ll be working for, you know, 2 months or so.
185 00:18:45.860 ⇒ 00:18:48.380 Alexander Lubka: and but you don’t have to pay them till October first.st
186 00:18:50.390 ⇒ 00:18:55.079 Alexander Lubka: So hopefully a couple. You know you. You get these invoices in at a good time.
187 00:18:55.080 ⇒ 00:19:00.239 Amber Lin: Oh, okay, that sounds okay. That will help convince you, Tom.
188 00:19:00.850 ⇒ 00:19:02.919 Alexander Lubka: Well, he, I’m sure he knows this already.
189 00:19:03.750 ⇒ 00:19:04.949 Amber Lin: Yeah, he! He knows.
190 00:19:05.815 ⇒ 00:19:08.740 Amber Lin: That’s how. My, that’s how my paycheck was.
191 00:19:08.740 ⇒ 00:19:09.709 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, that’s how mine was.
192 00:19:10.230 ⇒ 00:19:11.949 Alexander Lubka: I’m sure he’s well aware that.
193 00:19:13.150 ⇒ 00:19:17.810 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay, sounds good. That’s great. I’ll see.
194 00:19:18.080 ⇒ 00:19:24.679 Amber Lin: Oh, as we go to coordinate the meeting. Alright. Thanks. This is really helpful. I’m glad we did this sooner.
195 00:19:24.850 ⇒ 00:19:26.480 Alexander Lubka: Yeah, of course, I’m glad it worked out.
196 00:19:26.620 ⇒ 00:19:28.799 Amber Lin: Yeah. Okay, have a great night.
197 00:19:28.800 ⇒ 00:19:29.570 Alexander Lubka: You, too. Bye, everyone.
198 00:19:29.800 ⇒ 00:19:30.760 Amber Lin: Bye.