Meeting Title: Zoom Meeting Date: 2025-06-11 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Mustafa Raja
WEBVTT
1 00:00:52.620 ⇒ 00:00:53.969 Mustafa Raja: Hey! How are you?
2 00:00:54.530 ⇒ 00:00:55.789 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?
3 00:00:56.000 ⇒ 00:00:57.670 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m I’m doing good.
4 00:00:57.910 ⇒ 00:00:59.280 Uttam Kumaran: It’s kind of late. Dude.
5 00:01:00.180 ⇒ 00:01:00.850 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
6 00:01:03.900 ⇒ 00:01:06.409 Mustafa Raja: yeah, it’s it’s it’s morning over here.
7 00:01:06.580 ⇒ 00:01:10.134 Mustafa Raja: My, my routine is, you know, a little messed up.
8 00:01:10.490 ⇒ 00:01:16.070 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Tell me, why, what’s your what was your? What was your routine before working with us?
9 00:01:17.087 ⇒ 00:01:18.922 Mustafa Raja: It’s pretty much the same.
10 00:01:19.670 ⇒ 00:01:22.290 Mustafa Raja: I tried to fix it, but yeah.
11 00:01:23.060 ⇒ 00:01:27.450 Uttam Kumaran: No, it’s hard. I mean, it’s hard working for us. But like also, I don’t know we don’t.
12 00:01:27.620 ⇒ 00:01:31.199 Uttam Kumaran: I think, after like you don’t necessarily have to work past like.
13 00:01:31.200 ⇒ 00:01:31.520 Mustafa Raja: Do you mind?
14 00:01:31.520 ⇒ 00:01:32.800 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, more time. But like.
15 00:01:32.800 ⇒ 00:01:33.770 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
16 00:01:34.210 ⇒ 00:01:41.180 Mustafa Raja: yeah, yeah, I I feel, I, I feel I can manage it pretty well if I really want to. But what happens.
17 00:01:41.180 ⇒ 00:01:47.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, is, I just don’t get the vibe in in the afternoon for work.
18 00:01:47.210 ⇒ 00:01:53.670 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay, okay, yeah. Like for me, I work like what the problem is, because
19 00:01:53.790 ⇒ 00:02:09.819 Uttam Kumaran: it’s I’m not like, I don’t really like waking up in the morning too early, because I used to wake up like 7 am. To call Miguel and Casey, but then, like I don’t know my brain isn’t, and I cause I I always grew up like staying up late like 1, 2, 3 o’clock in the morning.
20 00:02:10.020 ⇒ 00:02:10.720 Uttam Kumaran: working.
21 00:02:10.729 ⇒ 00:02:11.249 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
22 00:02:11.250 ⇒ 00:02:14.620 Uttam Kumaran: Like working or watching Youtube or coding, or something so like.
23 00:02:14.620 ⇒ 00:02:15.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
24 00:02:15.310 ⇒ 00:02:18.619 Uttam Kumaran: Only trying to go to sleep on time.
25 00:02:19.080 ⇒ 00:02:26.009 Uttam Kumaran: because nowadays, in order to talk to you guys. Well, I so I used to do it at 8 Am. Now we do it at 11,
26 00:02:26.170 ⇒ 00:02:32.289 Uttam Kumaran: just because, like I need the morning to like, do all the sales work, and otherwise, I just have no energy to do it later.
27 00:02:32.930 ⇒ 00:02:33.830 Mustafa Raja: Oh!
28 00:02:34.210 ⇒ 00:02:34.690 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
29 00:02:34.690 ⇒ 00:02:38.030 Mustafa Raja: For me. For me it’s pretty much been the same.
30 00:02:38.290 ⇒ 00:02:53.543 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I I the 7. It’s it’s almost yeah. It’s 7 and a half here it’s it’s never been. It’s never gotten to this. I at most sleep at 6. But yeah,
31 00:02:54.020 ⇒ 00:02:55.250 Uttam Kumaran: What do you do on the weekend.
32 00:02:56.230 ⇒ 00:02:59.009 Mustafa Raja: On the weekends I usually visit my family.
33 00:02:59.540 ⇒ 00:03:01.089 Uttam Kumaran: But like you flip the schedule.
34 00:03:01.680 ⇒ 00:03:03.010 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so.
35 00:03:04.830 ⇒ 00:03:05.610 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
36 00:03:05.610 ⇒ 00:03:07.630 Uttam Kumaran: You don’t feel like jet lag almost.
37 00:03:08.950 ⇒ 00:03:12.940 Mustafa Raja: I’m pretty much used to it. So it’s it’s okay for me.
38 00:03:13.420 ⇒ 00:03:17.030 Uttam Kumaran: But before, when you were working with clients, was it the same kind of same thing.
39 00:03:18.000 ⇒ 00:03:24.080 Mustafa Raja: Almost the same thing unless I I have. If I have school or college.
40 00:03:24.080 ⇒ 00:03:25.239 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. Okay.
41 00:03:25.240 ⇒ 00:03:26.390 Mustafa Raja: Tony.
42 00:03:26.390 ⇒ 00:03:26.830 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
43 00:03:27.130 ⇒ 00:03:31.940 Mustafa Raja: If I’m on vacation I’ll be like this. I I’ve always been a night night out.
44 00:03:32.340 ⇒ 00:03:34.389 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, same. But like for me, I wish
45 00:03:34.560 ⇒ 00:03:39.560 Uttam Kumaran: cause like I’m gonna go home and do another like, probably 2, 3 h of work.
46 00:03:39.860 ⇒ 00:03:40.360 Uttam Kumaran: But, like.
47 00:03:41.300 ⇒ 00:03:42.729 Mustafa Raja: You’re not at home.
48 00:03:42.910 ⇒ 00:03:50.399 Uttam Kumaran: No, I just went to dinner at with my my girlfriend’s family’s house. But
49 00:03:50.600 ⇒ 00:03:57.109 Uttam Kumaran: like now I’m gonna go home and just do a couple because I need to do some modeling and couple of more things. But
50 00:03:57.740 ⇒ 00:04:01.260 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I don’t know. I just like the problem is like, I have to get up
51 00:04:01.560 ⇒ 00:04:03.609 Uttam Kumaran: these days like we haven’t.
52 00:04:03.760 ⇒ 00:04:11.930 Uttam Kumaran: I used to have meetings like 7 o’clock, 8 o’clock in the morning, so if I go to sleep at 8 at 12. It’s like I. I don’t get any sleep, so.
53 00:04:11.930 ⇒ 00:04:12.430 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
54 00:04:12.430 ⇒ 00:04:16.959 Uttam Kumaran: These days I try to sleep a little bit early, because I work almost
55 00:04:17.459 ⇒ 00:04:22.570 Uttam Kumaran: 7 30 to like 8 pm. Every day, like almost 12 h.
56 00:04:22.570 ⇒ 00:04:25.480 Mustafa Raja: That’s that’s more than 12 h.
57 00:04:26.630 ⇒ 00:04:33.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, it’s usually I. I usually work anywhere from like 10 to 15 h every day, mostly.
58 00:04:33.820 ⇒ 00:04:34.860 Mustafa Raja: Oh!
59 00:04:34.860 ⇒ 00:04:42.309 Uttam Kumaran: And then on the weekend. I work like these days. I don’t work Saturdays anymore, but like Sunday, I’ll work another 4 or 5, but like
60 00:04:42.780 ⇒ 00:04:50.069 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know, it’s tough, because I want the business to succeed. So I I don’t want anyone else to work that hard but
61 00:04:50.360 ⇒ 00:05:04.270 Uttam Kumaran: like and here, cause I used to live in New York City, so the city is always going, no matter what time, so I can go sit somewhere at 9, 10 o’clock and work here. There’s only one coffee shop that’s open 24 h.
62 00:05:04.450 ⇒ 00:05:10.189 Uttam Kumaran: so cause if I’m at home I feel so tired. So sometimes I go to the coffee shop
63 00:05:10.420 ⇒ 00:05:13.890 Uttam Kumaran: at 10 o’clock, and I stay there until like 2 o’clock, and then I leave
64 00:05:16.840 ⇒ 00:05:17.659 Uttam Kumaran: because some of the work.
65 00:05:17.660 ⇒ 00:05:18.109 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it is.
66 00:05:18.110 ⇒ 00:05:21.850 Uttam Kumaran: So boring dude like it’s like finance or business.
67 00:05:21.850 ⇒ 00:05:22.499 Mustafa Raja: Yes, it’s like.
68 00:05:22.500 ⇒ 00:05:28.299 Uttam Kumaran: It’s like not engineering work. So it’s so boring. So I have to literally like, be so motivated.
69 00:05:29.150 ⇒ 00:05:33.279 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the typing stuff. I don’t. I don’t like it at all.
70 00:05:34.850 ⇒ 00:05:35.320 Mustafa Raja: Don’t think.
71 00:05:35.320 ⇒ 00:05:37.280 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah.
72 00:05:37.280 ⇒ 00:05:38.049 Mustafa Raja: I think that.
73 00:05:38.050 ⇒ 00:05:40.289 Uttam Kumaran: Well, that’s why we have AI, for like now I do.
74 00:05:40.290 ⇒ 00:05:40.930 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
75 00:05:40.930 ⇒ 00:05:43.929 Uttam Kumaran: Lot of it, but I can’t. AI. Some of the business stuff like.
76 00:05:44.210 ⇒ 00:05:44.995 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
77 00:05:46.380 ⇒ 00:05:48.030 Uttam Kumaran: So whatever. Yeah.
78 00:05:48.030 ⇒ 00:05:52.519 Mustafa Raja: I really cannot imagine people’s lives before AI.
79 00:05:52.690 ⇒ 00:05:55.510 Uttam Kumaran: I know. I know it’s crazy. I feel really.
80 00:05:55.870 ⇒ 00:05:57.490 Mustafa Raja: Because I don’t think, yeah.
81 00:05:57.490 ⇒ 00:06:06.399 Uttam Kumaran: Would be way harder to do. But like I don’t know. I was like, how long have you been doing like development work like, were you doing front end work before this or no?
82 00:06:08.698 ⇒ 00:06:10.479 Mustafa Raja: the development work.
83 00:06:11.720 ⇒ 00:06:14.940 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like, what were you doing before? Like 2023.
84 00:06:17.650 ⇒ 00:06:18.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah,
85 00:06:20.950 ⇒ 00:06:32.380 Mustafa Raja: When I started development, I I started with spring boot, and it was the it was in the time where Chat Gpt. Hasn’t been around yet, so.
86 00:06:32.730 ⇒ 00:06:33.520 Uttam Kumaran: I’ve seen that.
87 00:06:33.520 ⇒ 00:06:45.410 Mustafa Raja: And I remember when my professors introduced me to stack, overflow, and I would search the answers over there and also answer people
88 00:06:49.180 ⇒ 00:06:54.960 Mustafa Raja: it. It was. But I feel it’s a little toxic. The stack overflow sometimes.
89 00:06:54.960 ⇒ 00:06:56.899 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, people are mean on there.
90 00:06:57.240 ⇒ 00:07:10.780 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, as a new person. I I’m also I’m not familiar with the guidelines and how you’re supposed to provide you problem with
91 00:07:10.780 ⇒ 00:07:11.710 Mustafa Raja: oh.
92 00:07:11.710 ⇒ 00:07:12.280 Uttam Kumaran: So.
93 00:07:12.280 ⇒ 00:07:12.890 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah.
94 00:07:12.890 ⇒ 00:07:14.539 Mustafa Raja: Oh, what did what to do?
95 00:07:15.560 ⇒ 00:07:26.470 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I don’t know. I I learned just like I used to read documentation. So I read all the documentation like, I print it out, and I read all the documentation.
96 00:07:26.580 ⇒ 00:07:30.689 Uttam Kumaran: and then I just have to sit and grind. So I I.
97 00:07:30.690 ⇒ 00:07:31.340 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
98 00:07:31.340 ⇒ 00:07:32.669 Uttam Kumaran: I used to
99 00:07:32.780 ⇒ 00:07:38.630 Uttam Kumaran: like cause when I was developing like I used to get almost 6 or 7 h of like focus time.
100 00:07:38.880 ⇒ 00:07:46.769 Uttam Kumaran: So I just play like house music, or I play rap music. And then I could work because no one would bother me because I was just a developer. I wasn’t like
101 00:07:46.970 ⇒ 00:07:55.160 Uttam Kumaran: in meetings or anything. I had one or 2 meetings per day, and so I could spend 6 h, but I would write but for me, and my whole job is writing sequel. So
102 00:07:55.310 ⇒ 00:07:58.970 Uttam Kumaran: I would write sequel, like, for 6, 7 HA day.
103 00:07:59.929 ⇒ 00:08:00.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
104 00:08:00.650 ⇒ 00:08:06.080 Uttam Kumaran: But now it’s the opposite, like I. It’s all meetings, and then I never get any time to actually like
105 00:08:06.480 ⇒ 00:08:13.149 Uttam Kumaran: do any engineering work which is so sad. It’s like completely complete waste. But I don’t know. That’s just the way
106 00:08:13.760 ⇒ 00:08:23.899 Uttam Kumaran: I’m glad that I can have a team of people that now, hopefully, I can give. Like, you know, we don’t do many meetings. I think if you’re an engineer at Brainford, you’re not in like a hundred meetings, so
107 00:08:24.360 ⇒ 00:08:29.019 Uttam Kumaran: I think I’m in a lot of meetings, but mainly I’m there to just enable everybody.
108 00:08:30.000 ⇒ 00:08:35.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, you you. I think you have to be in every meeting. Every teams stand up.
109 00:08:36.260 ⇒ 00:08:42.529 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, but see I now I now I I left a lot of that. So Amber runs a lot, and Robert runs some of that. And
110 00:08:43.137 ⇒ 00:08:57.020 Uttam Kumaran: hannah does some in a way she does a good job, so I’m able to get out like I need to have less, much less meetings like. But for our team it’s helpful, because we’re working on some things that are like. There’s nobody else in the company that I think can articulate like
111 00:08:57.270 ⇒ 00:08:59.639 Uttam Kumaran: what the problem is and how to do it.
112 00:08:59.640 ⇒ 00:09:00.490 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
113 00:09:00.813 ⇒ 00:09:05.340 Uttam Kumaran: But like for client stuff, right like Amber can run some of that and
114 00:09:05.877 ⇒ 00:09:11.419 Uttam Kumaran: other people can run. You’ll see it’ll get. It’ll get a lot more structured and easier over time.
115 00:09:11.420 ⇒ 00:09:11.890 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
116 00:09:13.380 ⇒ 00:09:14.050 Uttam Kumaran: But
117 00:09:14.050 ⇒ 00:09:18.440 Uttam Kumaran: the work we’re doing now is the most. The work we’re doing on this team is the most fun. I think.
118 00:09:18.870 ⇒ 00:09:24.149 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll miss you. I’ll miss you when AI stand up should be run by someone.
119 00:09:24.150 ⇒ 00:09:27.540 Uttam Kumaran: No, I don’t know if it’ll ever be run by someone else, because I don’t.
120 00:09:27.540 ⇒ 00:09:30.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I like that. I like that.
121 00:09:30.210 ⇒ 00:09:32.619 Uttam Kumaran: Can like kind of figure it out. But
122 00:09:32.830 ⇒ 00:09:36.280 Uttam Kumaran: I like this team because I also want to work on this stuff. You know.
123 00:09:36.280 ⇒ 00:09:36.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
124 00:09:36.650 ⇒ 00:09:39.500 Uttam Kumaran: Certainly. So, yeah.
125 00:09:40.140 ⇒ 00:09:50.100 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I sometimes, yeah, open up slack on the weekends. And I’ll see you online. And I ask myself, When when does this man sleep?
126 00:09:51.175 ⇒ 00:09:53.910 Uttam Kumaran: That’s true. That’s true. Yeah.
127 00:09:53.910 ⇒ 00:09:56.020 Mustafa Raja: You’re almost always online.
128 00:09:56.650 ⇒ 00:10:03.539 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah on the weekends. Well, like, I don’t know, dude. It’s like it’s my company. I don’t know what else. This is. The this is the biggest project I’ve ever worked on.
129 00:10:03.860 ⇒ 00:10:08.030 Uttam Kumaran: and I’ve never worked on this. For 2 years we’ve been working on this, you know. So
130 00:10:08.030 ⇒ 00:10:08.960 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I do.
131 00:10:08.960 ⇒ 00:10:15.070 Uttam Kumaran: Kind of insane. I never thought it would be this big and yeah.
132 00:10:15.300 ⇒ 00:10:17.419 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I want, I want it to succeed.
133 00:10:17.880 ⇒ 00:10:18.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. No.
134 00:10:18.370 ⇒ 00:10:18.750 Mustafa Raja: I agree.
135 00:10:18.750 ⇒ 00:10:25.249 Uttam Kumaran: I wish I wish we had, you know, been able to connect earlier, but either way, I’m happy that it worked out, you know, like.
136 00:10:25.250 ⇒ 00:10:26.109 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m happy.
137 00:10:26.140 ⇒ 00:10:27.220 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, and so.
138 00:10:27.260 ⇒ 00:10:32.509 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, so I wouldn’t take too much of your time since you have to go home.
139 00:10:32.510 ⇒ 00:10:36.139 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, I’m good. I’m I’m just driving. So I have like 2030 min.
140 00:10:36.140 ⇒ 00:10:38.940 Mustafa Raja: Oh! Oh! Are you driving.
141 00:10:39.130 ⇒ 00:10:41.320 Uttam Kumaran: I’m yeah. I’m driving home right now.
142 00:10:41.540 ⇒ 00:10:47.250 Uttam Kumaran: But tell me, just walk me through your problem. I I sort of I I know what the I know what the ticket is.
143 00:10:47.790 ⇒ 00:10:49.762 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, so
144 00:10:51.415 ⇒ 00:11:09.570 Mustafa Raja: from the Gpt, prompt that you provided me. I assume that we would want to. We would we would want to. Use G, Doc, range ids as the identifiers for the sections right.
145 00:11:09.850 ⇒ 00:11:10.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
146 00:11:11.120 ⇒ 00:11:20.399 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that wouldn’t work, because whenever a document is refreshed or anything these get invalid.
147 00:11:21.300 ⇒ 00:11:21.990 Mustafa Raja: Oh, what.
148 00:11:21.990 ⇒ 00:11:23.790 Uttam Kumaran: What what gets invalidated.
149 00:11:24.647 ⇒ 00:11:25.900 Mustafa Raja: The id itself.
150 00:11:26.680 ⇒ 00:11:28.940 Uttam Kumaran: But doesn’t the id in the document.
151 00:11:29.860 ⇒ 00:11:40.459 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but we don’t get the id anyways, through the Apis, the Gdoc section. Id.
152 00:11:40.920 ⇒ 00:11:42.899 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really. Okay.
153 00:11:43.060 ⇒ 00:11:48.990 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So my solution to that is, we can use the table of contents as our sections.
154 00:11:51.820 ⇒ 00:11:55.540 Uttam Kumaran: But the table of contents is just driven by the headers right like.
155 00:11:55.840 ⇒ 00:11:56.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
156 00:11:56.930 ⇒ 00:12:09.630 Mustafa Raja: yeah, we can. I. I’ve I’ve seen it. It’s pretty good. I feel it’s a pretty good structure, and we can use it as identifiers and if you can look at it that will be helpful.
157 00:12:10.290 ⇒ 00:12:14.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So you’re basically gonna take the table of contents and then.
158 00:12:14.710 ⇒ 00:12:15.410 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
159 00:12:17.560 ⇒ 00:12:21.190 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I guess. Tell me like, how you’re thinking about doing the whole thing.
160 00:12:21.970 ⇒ 00:12:33.740 Mustafa Raja: Okay? So so the content between one heading and another head heading would be, can I share my screen? Can you? Can you look? Are you looking at.
161 00:12:33.740 ⇒ 00:12:34.910 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
162 00:12:34.910 ⇒ 00:12:36.520 Mustafa Raja: Are you driving yourself.
163 00:12:36.820 ⇒ 00:12:38.260 Uttam Kumaran: No no just go ahead! Go ahead!
164 00:12:38.990 ⇒ 00:12:42.979 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, give me, let me just share the screen.
165 00:12:54.670 ⇒ 00:12:55.625 Mustafa Raja: Okay?
166 00:13:17.180 ⇒ 00:13:21.400 Mustafa Raja: okay. We see. We have the table of contents over here. Right?
167 00:13:21.750 ⇒ 00:13:22.450 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
168 00:13:22.910 ⇒ 00:13:32.299 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So so 1st setting is general information, then the title ABC best programs. And the then this title, then this title, right? So what we can do is
169 00:13:35.210 ⇒ 00:13:35.825 Mustafa Raja: bluewood.
170 00:13:39.600 ⇒ 00:13:46.610 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So so what we can do is we can have the
171 00:13:47.295 ⇒ 00:13:55.189 Mustafa Raja: have this have this thing as the id that could be our replacement to G Doc section id
172 00:13:56.417 ⇒ 00:14:02.230 Mustafa Raja: and then in. And then the content in this would be, you know, it’s content.
173 00:14:04.680 ⇒ 00:14:10.980 Mustafa Raja: and this would be till another heading that is from here doesn’t come.
174 00:14:11.830 ⇒ 00:14:12.899 Mustafa Raja: What do you think about that?
175 00:14:12.900 ⇒ 00:14:13.520 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
176 00:14:15.030 ⇒ 00:14:19.950 Mustafa Raja: So this this particular part is only about how we are going to section our document.
177 00:14:20.320 ⇒ 00:14:26.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. So then you’re gonna use that to then find the different sections and then pull text out.
178 00:14:26.160 ⇒ 00:14:33.339 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, and then maybe we would embed embed this.
179 00:14:36.130 ⇒ 00:14:38.540 Uttam Kumaran: What do you mean? Embed? Oh, embedded in like super base.
180 00:14:38.540 ⇒ 00:14:39.360 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
181 00:14:39.360 ⇒ 00:14:42.360 Uttam Kumaran: Ideally, you don’t even embed it. You just
182 00:14:43.240 ⇒ 00:14:45.310 Uttam Kumaran: pull the section you need when you need it, right.
183 00:14:45.310 ⇒ 00:14:49.770 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. But but for that we would need some kind of semantic search.
184 00:14:51.610 ⇒ 00:14:57.889 Uttam Kumaran: Well, ultimately, what we’re trying to achieve is that we can edit a section and send it back. Or when a section
185 00:14:57.890 ⇒ 00:15:02.039 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I didn’t did. It can get sent back. It can get written back to to a data.
186 00:15:02.040 ⇒ 00:15:07.228 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. So so for that, yeah, so for that,
187 00:15:08.610 ⇒ 00:15:20.230 Mustafa Raja: so for that, what I what? What? My question is, does the user? Or would the user tell us about the section? Or are we going to infer it?
188 00:15:20.230 ⇒ 00:15:23.789 Uttam Kumaran: No, the user, the user is not gonna know this section. So.
189 00:15:23.790 ⇒ 00:15:25.230 Mustafa Raja: There’s either 2 ways. We do it.
190 00:15:25.230 ⇒ 00:15:29.520 Uttam Kumaran: The user. So the user is going to say, I want to add this, and then.
191 00:15:29.520 ⇒ 00:15:29.840 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
192 00:15:29.840 ⇒ 00:15:32.150 Uttam Kumaran: The docs should then say
193 00:15:32.630 ⇒ 00:15:37.610 Uttam Kumaran: like it could either go 2 ways. One, it could say, Okay, great. This seems like it’s in this section.
194 00:15:37.870 ⇒ 00:15:39.260 Uttam Kumaran: Can you confirm?
195 00:15:39.460 ⇒ 00:15:42.059 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I can go ahead and and
196 00:15:42.330 ⇒ 00:15:47.829 Uttam Kumaran: add that, or it should say it, it does. It seems like this is requires a new section.
197 00:15:48.780 ⇒ 00:15:54.200 Mustafa Raja: Like, like, we have to do some prompt engineering and input basically input hardening for that.
198 00:15:56.110 ⇒ 00:15:57.390 Uttam Kumaran: Does that make sense so like.
199 00:15:57.390 ⇒ 00:15:58.220 Mustafa Raja: Okay. Okay.
200 00:15:58.220 ⇒ 00:16:01.899 Uttam Kumaran: Like cause. The the user may not directly know where
201 00:16:02.320 ⇒ 00:16:06.930 Uttam Kumaran: this needs to go, which is part of the reason, because this doc is so big.
202 00:16:07.280 ⇒ 00:16:07.660 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
203 00:16:07.660 ⇒ 00:16:10.839 Uttam Kumaran: Difficult for people to go in and make an edit. So that’s why.
204 00:16:10.840 ⇒ 00:16:11.250 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
205 00:16:11.250 ⇒ 00:16:18.369 Uttam Kumaran: For each section. We could have some metadata. It should ideally the metadata on when to use a section should live in the Doc.
206 00:16:18.500 ⇒ 00:16:34.170 Uttam Kumaran: But, for example, if you’re like, Hey, I want to add this to the billing section. Okay, cool. There’s billing. But let’s say I want to. Let’s say I want to add this section. It’s like, Oh, I don’t. Where should we put it? Is there a clear area maybe they bought should do it. But the big thing to understand here is like we. We then want to edit it and then write it back.
207 00:16:34.520 ⇒ 00:16:36.100 Uttam Kumaran: and then the other, like
208 00:16:36.260 ⇒ 00:16:44.399 Uttam Kumaran: people. People can then go into the dock and make a change when there’s a change in the doc that should then permeate back in some database.
209 00:16:44.580 ⇒ 00:16:58.530 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for that. We for that. I have the Google drive trigger that let us know about any changes that have occurred to. So we can continuously check that and
210 00:16:58.700 ⇒ 00:16:59.340 Mustafa Raja: on a web.
211 00:16:59.866 ⇒ 00:17:00.920 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
212 00:17:00.920 ⇒ 00:17:02.179 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, nice. Okay.
213 00:17:02.500 ⇒ 00:17:06.010 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so that that problem is actually kind of solved.
214 00:17:06.010 ⇒ 00:17:08.930 Uttam Kumaran: And then what? What information do you get? Just like there’s an edit.
215 00:17:09.260 ⇒ 00:17:23.789 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. It only tells us that there has been an edit. It does not tell us what has been changed. So what we would then need to do is pull everything from there, and then compare what we currently have, and then merge it.
216 00:17:25.180 ⇒ 00:17:26.100 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
217 00:17:26.329 ⇒ 00:17:27.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
218 00:17:27.480 ⇒ 00:17:29.690 Mustafa Raja: Kind of like Github commits.
219 00:17:29.950 ⇒ 00:17:34.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, ideally, the only thing to I would make sure is that
220 00:17:34.660 ⇒ 00:17:37.270 Uttam Kumaran: you have some way to prevent that.
221 00:17:37.740 ⇒ 00:17:39.540 Uttam Kumaran: These things are conflicting.
222 00:17:40.300 ⇒ 00:17:47.310 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, meaning like, have some having some have some like queue or
223 00:17:48.040 ⇒ 00:17:51.110 Uttam Kumaran: like, do you need to have some sort of collision.
224 00:17:51.110 ⇒ 00:18:07.830 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can. For that. I was thinking, if we are going to do, if we are going to go with this heading this table of content things as our ids, what we can do, we can see. Okay, this section changed. Let’s let’s update this whole section
225 00:18:08.030 ⇒ 00:18:13.310 Mustafa Raja: in the database, so that way we might be safe from any conflicts.
226 00:18:13.930 ⇒ 00:18:15.900 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. My other question is like.
227 00:18:17.130 ⇒ 00:18:19.950 Uttam Kumaran: Is the AI gonna rewrite like.
228 00:18:20.530 ⇒ 00:18:27.620 Uttam Kumaran: how do we write us? A prompt that the AI just like, adds a new section in versus like, you know, when you send something to Chatgpc.
229 00:18:27.620 ⇒ 00:18:28.250 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
230 00:18:28.250 ⇒ 00:18:30.180 Uttam Kumaran: Is one thing, it’ll edit the whole thing.
231 00:18:30.180 ⇒ 00:18:39.095 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, for that. Yeah, yeah, that was, actually, that is actually one of my questions. I’ve written over here.
232 00:18:40.140 ⇒ 00:18:49.499 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, because I don’t know. I think it’s we’ll have to think about what we do. Because if you were to say, Okay, chat to me. Take this section and just edit one piece.
233 00:18:49.760 ⇒ 00:18:50.310 Uttam Kumaran: It may not.
234 00:18:50.310 ⇒ 00:18:51.210 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it is. I think.
235 00:18:51.210 ⇒ 00:18:53.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Edit, it’ll edit other shit. Yeah.
236 00:18:53.290 ⇒ 00:18:55.400 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s usually message.
237 00:18:55.400 ⇒ 00:18:56.100 Uttam Kumaran: So.
238 00:18:56.100 ⇒ 00:19:00.410 Mustafa Raja: Especially if the thing we want to update is.
239 00:19:00.410 ⇒ 00:19:04.269 Uttam Kumaran: We need some sort of like some sort of chain
240 00:19:05.620 ⇒ 00:19:07.819 Uttam Kumaran: chain that we do where it’s like.
241 00:19:08.190 ⇒ 00:19:13.759 Uttam Kumaran: First, st it identifies where to insert the sentence generates a sentence, and then there’s something that inserts it.
242 00:19:14.060 ⇒ 00:19:16.099 Uttam Kumaran: So we either have like a modify.
243 00:19:16.590 ⇒ 00:19:20.970 Uttam Kumaran: we have an answer, or we have a delete like.
244 00:19:22.110 ⇒ 00:19:27.210 Uttam Kumaran: and we should ideally focus on modifying or deleting.
245 00:19:27.380 ⇒ 00:19:33.570 Uttam Kumaran: The other thing we could do, you know, is, is all of the changes have to go through an approval process to start.
246 00:19:34.200 ⇒ 00:19:40.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and this thing is supported by an intense update node.
247 00:19:42.160 ⇒ 00:19:43.129 Uttam Kumaran: What was that?
248 00:19:44.448 ⇒ 00:19:46.160 Mustafa Raja: Let’s pull it up.
249 00:19:48.300 ⇒ 00:19:49.210 Mustafa Raja: This.
250 00:19:54.480 ⇒ 00:19:55.320 Mustafa Raja: No. One.
251 00:20:24.840 ⇒ 00:20:29.560 Mustafa Raja: It was a setting over here, and then the position
252 00:20:33.000 ⇒ 00:20:34.310 Mustafa Raja: 16, 7.
253 00:20:35.120 ⇒ 00:20:40.819 Mustafa Raja: And please, okay, excuse me.
254 00:20:43.390 ⇒ 00:20:57.460 Mustafa Raja: So yeah as earlier. I saw that the here we had an option where we it was something it was something that required an approval from some.
255 00:20:57.460 ⇒ 00:20:58.510 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.
256 00:20:58.510 ⇒ 00:20:59.320 Mustafa Raja: Access.
257 00:20:59.470 ⇒ 00:21:00.409 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so I.
258 00:21:00.410 ⇒ 00:21:01.650 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t want, but I can’t.
259 00:21:01.650 ⇒ 00:21:01.990 Mustafa Raja: Think we.
260 00:21:01.990 ⇒ 00:21:03.720 Uttam Kumaran: Need. N. 8 n. Approval.
261 00:21:04.240 ⇒ 00:21:07.410 Uttam Kumaran: I think it should be some external approval.
262 00:21:08.650 ⇒ 00:21:09.490 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
263 00:21:10.610 ⇒ 00:21:15.740 Uttam Kumaran: Like like, I don’t know. It either. Happens where it’s like.
264 00:21:19.090 ⇒ 00:21:23.819 Mustafa Raja: I think it could be from Google docs. I’m not sure. I’ll look into this, though.
265 00:21:25.280 ⇒ 00:21:32.770 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, or like, yeah, I don’t know. Maybe it’s worth talking to Amber about it, because
266 00:21:33.090 ⇒ 00:21:35.849 Uttam Kumaran: I’d I’d prefer that all the changes
267 00:21:35.980 ⇒ 00:21:38.709 Uttam Kumaran: go at least get approved by amber. First.st
268 00:21:39.710 ⇒ 00:21:40.620 Mustafa Raja: Okay.
269 00:21:41.060 ⇒ 00:21:45.909 Uttam Kumaran: Because I don’t want. I don’t want it to mess up and like make a small change somewhere that then, like we never
270 00:21:46.250 ⇒ 00:21:50.579 Uttam Kumaran: find it right? So ideally, maybe Amber should get
271 00:21:51.200 ⇒ 00:21:55.439 Uttam Kumaran: a summary of like, this piece is getting changed to this piece.
272 00:21:55.590 ⇒ 00:21:58.989 Uttam Kumaran: Here is what the user wanted to do. Do you approve?
273 00:22:03.900 ⇒ 00:22:08.029 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know. Maybe it’s a ui to do that. I don’t really want to build the Ui.
274 00:22:08.030 ⇒ 00:22:08.350 Mustafa Raja: Weekend.
275 00:22:08.350 ⇒ 00:22:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: That, but.
276 00:22:09.670 ⇒ 00:22:12.570 Mustafa Raja: We can do it from slack if you want.
277 00:22:14.900 ⇒ 00:22:17.300 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. I wonder if, like.
278 00:22:19.960 ⇒ 00:22:25.939 Uttam Kumaran: I wonder if it’s maybe a Google sheet instead, with, like some column that’s like an approval column or something.
279 00:22:26.960 ⇒ 00:22:30.040 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can. We should be able to do that. Actually.
280 00:22:42.210 ⇒ 00:22:43.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
281 00:22:46.410 ⇒ 00:22:47.160 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
282 00:22:49.920 ⇒ 00:22:50.540 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
283 00:22:50.540 ⇒ 00:22:56.779 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So so currently, we can say that we have figured out figured out how we are going to make a 2 way sync.
284 00:22:57.050 ⇒ 00:22:57.650 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
285 00:22:59.070 ⇒ 00:22:59.470 Mustafa Raja: I think.
286 00:22:59.470 ⇒ 00:23:02.030 Uttam Kumaran: I think what’s probably best is like. If you
287 00:23:02.380 ⇒ 00:23:07.259 Uttam Kumaran: if you can take this Zoom Meeting and then and then maybe use the transcript
288 00:23:07.570 ⇒ 00:23:10.570 Uttam Kumaran: prompt, and then you can create 2 tickets.
289 00:23:11.300 ⇒ 00:23:14.209 Uttam Kumaran: or how many ever tickets you need that way.
290 00:23:14.360 ⇒ 00:23:19.490 Uttam Kumaran: We can put that into the cycle, and then Amber can see that.
291 00:23:20.790 ⇒ 00:23:22.126 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we are,
292 00:23:22.460 ⇒ 00:23:27.210 Uttam Kumaran: Or you can go and create, you can basically create. You can create it from the Zoom ui, the
293 00:23:27.740 ⇒ 00:23:29.270 Uttam Kumaran: our demo ui.
294 00:23:30.220 ⇒ 00:23:31.769 Mustafa Raja: Oh, yeah, I’ll do that.
295 00:23:32.220 ⇒ 00:23:34.170 Uttam Kumaran: Once this is done recording. Yeah.
296 00:23:35.070 ⇒ 00:23:39.240 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we actually have a meeting with Amber tomorrow.
297 00:23:40.700 ⇒ 00:23:42.000 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, cool. Okay. Okay.
298 00:23:42.180 ⇒ 00:23:43.030 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
299 00:23:45.440 ⇒ 00:23:48.840 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Yeah, this is something we on for a while. So.
300 00:23:49.020 ⇒ 00:23:56.919 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. I feel I feel we have figured out the 2 way. Sync, is it.
301 00:23:56.920 ⇒ 00:24:03.629 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, you know the. So the next, the next. So you kind of understood, like how what the what the current state of the project is right.
302 00:24:04.000 ⇒ 00:24:05.279 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I do.
303 00:24:05.770 ⇒ 00:24:10.100 Uttam Kumaran: So the next step is, we’re gonna have
304 00:24:11.013 ⇒ 00:24:21.479 Uttam Kumaran: like, almost the V 2 of this is like the AI agent will. We can look at the responses from people, and then it will automatically propose changes.
305 00:24:22.590 ⇒ 00:24:26.539 Uttam Kumaran: It’ll automatically like, propose, hey? We should go make this change in the doc.
306 00:24:27.440 ⇒ 00:24:33.769 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. And would that be in the chat, or or or would would that be a notification to amber.
307 00:24:36.070 ⇒ 00:24:40.099 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, it almost like invokes this agent. Somehow, I don’t know. I have to think about it a little bit more.
308 00:24:40.970 ⇒ 00:24:42.839 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I, think I think I think.
309 00:24:42.840 ⇒ 00:24:48.760 Uttam Kumaran: For example, if someone, if someone constantly is asking like, Hey, where? What is this info? And it’s not there.
310 00:24:49.190 ⇒ 00:24:55.189 Uttam Kumaran: then someone needs to get prompted to then, hey, you have to go fill out this answer, you know.
311 00:24:55.580 ⇒ 00:24:56.520 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
312 00:24:57.590 ⇒ 00:25:00.300 Uttam Kumaran: Now we can talk, we can think about more. Yeah.
313 00:25:00.300 ⇒ 00:25:01.080 Mustafa Raja: It should basically.
314 00:25:01.080 ⇒ 00:25:02.969 Uttam Kumaran: Say, like, yeah, yeah, exactly.
315 00:25:03.230 ⇒ 00:25:06.560 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. And that should be a notification to someone internal.
316 00:25:06.560 ⇒ 00:25:07.320 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
317 00:25:08.090 ⇒ 00:25:13.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I think Slack would work best if you don’t want to make a special interface for that.
318 00:25:14.810 ⇒ 00:25:18.689 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, the reason why I’m like, I don’t want to make an interface is because
319 00:25:18.820 ⇒ 00:25:23.460 Uttam Kumaran: the client is not very technical. So Google sheets
320 00:25:24.610 ⇒ 00:25:29.770 Uttam Kumaran: Google sheets or email on even email, I think would be fine.
321 00:25:30.400 ⇒ 00:25:37.480 Uttam Kumaran: like an email of like a summary or something cause like, they’re very, very legacy. They’re not like that, modern, so.
322 00:25:39.040 ⇒ 00:25:51.800 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, that this makes sense. We can actually brainstorm this with, in the meeting with amber.
323 00:25:52.070 ⇒ 00:25:53.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
324 00:25:54.330 ⇒ 00:25:57.349 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and how do you feel about the 2 way syncing.
325 00:25:57.640 ⇒ 00:26:01.190 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine. Yeah, I think that’s fine.
326 00:26:01.360 ⇒ 00:26:02.340 Uttam Kumaran: I think
327 00:26:05.140 ⇒ 00:26:11.500 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, my goal is that at long term people don’t edit the doc directly they go through this every time.
328 00:26:12.240 ⇒ 00:26:13.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
329 00:26:13.780 ⇒ 00:26:17.779 Uttam Kumaran: I think the biggest thing also is, if you could just try to try to keep a log of the changes.
330 00:26:18.050 ⇒ 00:26:21.859 Uttam Kumaran: so that in case we need to. I guess Google Docs will have version history.
331 00:26:22.380 ⇒ 00:26:23.839 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that that is there.
332 00:26:23.840 ⇒ 00:26:28.259 Uttam Kumaran: But worth keeping a second correction, just in case.
333 00:26:29.480 ⇒ 00:26:34.739 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we can. We can do that with the Google sheets thing. If we want.
334 00:26:35.120 ⇒ 00:26:35.740 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
335 00:26:36.920 ⇒ 00:26:38.630 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Okay.
336 00:26:40.150 ⇒ 00:26:48.550 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah. and how do you feel about the table of contents as our ids thing.
337 00:26:48.930 ⇒ 00:26:56.240 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine. I I just think we need to somehow make sure that that doesn’t change.
338 00:26:56.700 ⇒ 00:27:01.030 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if the table of content itself, the yeah.
339 00:27:01.030 ⇒ 00:27:04.560 Mustafa Raja: please change. That would become a problem.
340 00:27:04.810 ⇒ 00:27:05.510 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
341 00:27:06.340 ⇒ 00:27:07.650 Uttam Kumaran: So
342 00:27:10.780 ⇒ 00:27:13.430 Uttam Kumaran: maybe it’s partly we had just had to train people. But
343 00:27:13.680 ⇒ 00:27:20.140 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, I just wanna make sure that those never change or like, for example, the bot shouldn’t change those either.
344 00:27:21.290 ⇒ 00:27:23.130 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
345 00:27:24.470 ⇒ 00:27:27.980 Uttam Kumaran: It’ll it’ll take some testing. You know what what you can do is like you should.
346 00:27:28.520 ⇒ 00:27:32.350 Uttam Kumaran: You should test this on a copy.
347 00:27:33.650 ⇒ 00:27:36.169 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I should create a copy. And then I.
348 00:27:36.170 ⇒ 00:27:39.230 Uttam Kumaran: Create a copy so that we can then stress test it a bit.
349 00:27:39.910 ⇒ 00:27:40.390 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
350 00:27:40.390 ⇒ 00:27:44.060 Uttam Kumaran: And then. Now and then we can just quickly apply it to this one.
351 00:27:44.460 ⇒ 00:27:46.050 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that should.
352 00:27:46.470 ⇒ 00:27:47.579 Mustafa Raja: That should be the.
353 00:27:47.580 ⇒ 00:27:49.909 Uttam Kumaran: We should test some different edge cases like.
354 00:27:50.110 ⇒ 00:27:50.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.
355 00:27:50.660 ⇒ 00:27:51.400 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
356 00:27:52.370 ⇒ 00:27:53.739 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that makes sense.
357 00:27:55.380 ⇒ 00:27:58.820 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I think we have pretty good.
358 00:27:59.030 ⇒ 00:28:00.979 Mustafa Raja: Add this, then, right?
359 00:28:01.770 ⇒ 00:28:02.530 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
360 00:28:03.269 ⇒ 00:28:11.540 Mustafa Raja: One more thing that I wanted to mention is I’ve only been able to work this much this week till now.
361 00:28:12.610 ⇒ 00:28:14.069 Uttam Kumaran: Hold on. Let me. Just
362 00:28:20.530 ⇒ 00:28:21.680 Uttam Kumaran: oh, okay.
363 00:28:21.850 ⇒ 00:28:23.090 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. Wait.
364 00:28:23.090 ⇒ 00:28:24.490 Mustafa Raja: And the yeah.
365 00:28:24.830 ⇒ 00:28:26.529 Uttam Kumaran: But just today and yesterday.
366 00:28:26.870 ⇒ 00:28:37.409 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. And the reason of this is that my grandmother passed away a few days back. And I have some guests over because of that.
367 00:28:37.410 ⇒ 00:28:38.309 Uttam Kumaran: No no no problem.
368 00:28:38.622 ⇒ 00:28:41.120 Mustafa Raja: And so I have to cater to them.
369 00:28:41.120 ⇒ 00:28:46.620 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine, that’s fine. No, that’s why I said, take take as much time as as you need. Just keep.
370 00:28:46.620 ⇒ 00:28:49.430 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, Kate, me or Amber informed. That’s it.
371 00:28:49.430 ⇒ 00:28:55.369 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just wanted to inform you so that we won’t have any surprises by the end of the week.
372 00:28:55.640 ⇒ 00:29:02.950 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, you’re good. I think the only thing is like, if if any of your tickets you’re like, Hey, I’m not going to get to this. Just let me know I can move it to the next cycle.
373 00:29:03.330 ⇒ 00:29:08.869 Uttam Kumaran: like if you’re like, hey, I don’t know whether we’ll get the slack summarizer stuff, or whatever cause. I know my, I team.
374 00:29:09.330 ⇒ 00:29:22.769 Uttam Kumaran: the ad team. I’m gonna keep layering more stuff. But I want to make sure that we are accurate on what we’re gonna get done. So just keep me informed. The client. Stuff comes first, st though, so I would say, if if anything drop drop the AI teamwork
375 00:29:22.930 ⇒ 00:29:23.800 Uttam Kumaran: and and.
376 00:29:23.800 ⇒ 00:29:24.190 Mustafa Raja: Yes.
377 00:29:24.190 ⇒ 00:29:26.350 Uttam Kumaran: Work on anything for for a client.
378 00:29:26.490 ⇒ 00:29:28.339 Uttam Kumaran: That’s the priority.
379 00:29:28.680 ⇒ 00:29:36.449 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, the slack summarize and and the implementation partners thing are in review for you.
380 00:29:37.110 ⇒ 00:29:38.140 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
381 00:29:38.708 ⇒ 00:29:45.610 Mustafa Raja: I think the slack summarizer thing would only need prompt optimization. The rest of the rest of it is pretty good.
382 00:29:46.380 ⇒ 00:29:51.670 Uttam Kumaran: But then, what what about the for the linear like the sprint summarizer stuff.
383 00:29:52.590 ⇒ 00:29:57.980 Mustafa Raja: Screen. Summarize. That. That isn’t. That is another ticket right?
384 00:29:58.430 ⇒ 00:30:05.739 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. Yeah. But that’s I guess that’s what I’m saying is like, if you’re if you’re like, Hey, I don’t think I’m gonna get to this. By Friday we can move that to the next cycle.
385 00:30:07.315 ⇒ 00:30:07.750 Mustafa Raja: Paper.
386 00:30:09.260 ⇒ 00:30:11.015 Mustafa Raja: No, I should be able to
387 00:30:11.900 ⇒ 00:30:14.930 Mustafa Raja: work over the weekends, so I don’t think.
388 00:30:15.460 ⇒ 00:30:20.029 Mustafa Raja: And this needed to be moved. We can move one of them
389 00:30:20.430 ⇒ 00:30:24.700 Mustafa Raja: if we really want, but I think we should be able to cover this.
390 00:30:25.560 ⇒ 00:30:28.560 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let let me move one. I’ll just move one of them out.
391 00:30:29.495 ⇒ 00:30:35.619 Uttam Kumaran: Cause my goal is for us to get for us to the goal, for the cycles are always to fit to finish what we take on
392 00:30:35.870 ⇒ 00:31:00.829 Uttam Kumaran: meaning like, I don’t. Wanna I don’t. Wanna. Because every week, if we’re like, Oh, we’re gonna get to it, and we never get to it. It’s like we’re we’re we’re not like. We don’t have anybody above us that we’re trying to prove anything to. So I wanna make sure that we have a true sense of like, Hey, we can only typically take 10 or 15 tickets that way. We know our true capacity. And so at any week we’re not like super stressed out. So I’ll move it out. And then, if you get to it, you can move it back in. That’s fine.
393 00:31:01.380 ⇒ 00:31:03.730 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I’ll do that.
394 00:31:04.160 ⇒ 00:31:04.710 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.
395 00:31:04.710 ⇒ 00:31:08.029 Mustafa Raja: And this is this is only for this week, because.
396 00:31:08.680 ⇒ 00:31:10.860 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no, no, no problem. That’s totally fine.
397 00:31:11.320 ⇒ 00:31:14.120 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thank you. Thank you for understanding.
398 00:31:14.370 ⇒ 00:31:15.760 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, of course, of course.
399 00:31:16.960 ⇒ 00:31:19.190 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I think this this is pretty much it.
400 00:31:20.170 ⇒ 00:31:22.050 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay. Perfect. Okay.
401 00:31:22.050 ⇒ 00:31:23.379 Mustafa Raja: Okay, yeah, thank you.
402 00:31:23.380 ⇒ 00:31:24.653 Mustafa Raja: Fresh soon.
403 00:31:25.290 ⇒ 00:31:27.200 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. I’m going to sleep now.
404 00:31:27.200 ⇒ 00:31:28.490 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay. Alright.
405 00:31:28.490 ⇒ 00:31:29.010 Mustafa Raja: Bye-bye.
406 00:31:29.320 ⇒ 00:31:30.330 Uttam Kumaran: Okay? Bye.