Meeting Title: MCP Discussion Date: 2025-05-30 Meeting participants: Uttam Kumaran, Mustafa Raja


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1 00:21:03.410 00:21:04.820 Uttam Kumaran: Hey, mustafa.

2 00:21:09.830 00:21:11.020 Mustafa Raja: Hey! How are you?

3 00:21:11.370 00:21:13.880 Uttam Kumaran: Hey? Good! How are you? Sorry I’m late?

4 00:21:14.240 00:21:16.120 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, then it’s okay.

5 00:21:17.829 00:21:21.329 Mustafa Raja: So I guess Casey was supposed to come to.

6 00:21:22.810 00:21:24.520 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, is he online?

7 00:21:24.520 00:21:27.299 Mustafa Raja: I don’t think so.

8 00:21:28.270 00:21:30.879 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I mean, we could.

9 00:21:31.330 00:21:35.769 Uttam Kumaran: We could talk later, too. I guess I wanted to get. I wanted to get your thoughts

10 00:21:36.748 00:21:39.139 Uttam Kumaran: on the subject. Anyways.

11 00:21:41.170 00:22:00.330 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I guess. I guess so so I remember that you suggested a report that ha! That some people had worked on to get something going, and I think if we should continue their work, and build on that according to our use cases.

12 00:22:01.040 00:22:01.680 Mustafa Raja: Biggest M.

13 00:22:01.680 00:22:02.030 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

14 00:22:02.030 00:22:17.609 Mustafa Raja: Would help our AI agent perform actions better. We can do that. We can do the same thing with the Apis. But yeah. Mcp. Server would would help us not make the system prompt too complicated.

15 00:22:18.340 00:22:21.039 Mustafa Raja: Also it will. It will.

16 00:22:21.690 00:22:33.030 Mustafa Raja: The the server would then handle the descriptions of all the tools, so that the AI agent would be able to know what each tool should do

17 00:22:33.740 00:22:44.239 Mustafa Raja: and when when to use it so that that will be helpful also, I think we should work on it and make it open source, you know, so that.

18 00:22:44.240 00:22:45.229 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I agree, too.

19 00:22:45.230 00:22:49.470 Mustafa Raja: Contribution to linear and all.

20 00:22:50.100 00:22:51.370 Uttam Kumaran: No, I agree.

21 00:22:51.830 00:22:56.150 Mustafa Raja: We need some. We need some online presence there on the Github.

22 00:22:56.650 00:22:57.250 Mustafa Raja: If we don’t.

23 00:22:57.250 00:22:58.196 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, we

24 00:22:58.900 00:23:06.759 Uttam Kumaran: we. We have released a couple of things that are like open source. But we haven’t done much promotion around it, mainly because

25 00:23:07.010 00:23:13.819 Uttam Kumaran: I think it’s been just me sort of like thinking about that. So I would love if you want to even take that on which is like

26 00:23:14.501 00:23:23.819 Uttam Kumaran: as part of like. If we work on a linear Mcp, we publish it, and then we could maybe post on Linkedin and write a blog post or something.

27 00:23:24.040 00:23:26.739 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’d love that. I think we should do that

28 00:23:27.304 00:23:35.569 Mustafa Raja: since since it’s something that needs to be done, it’s not there. Linear isn’t doing it, and it’s needed.

29 00:23:36.190 00:23:37.259 Mustafa Raja: Tria, we should take.

30 00:23:37.260 00:23:38.150 Uttam Kumaran: I agree.

31 00:23:38.480 00:23:56.559 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let’s do it. I mean, maybe, like, I, I think that would be great to take on creating a linear Mcp server, I mean, the other things is like it would be great to also set up a Google calendar one, because there’s some stuff where we don’t need to ingest all the data. We just need to get it when we need it.

32 00:23:56.830 00:23:57.290 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

33 00:23:57.724 00:24:03.799 Uttam Kumaran: And so yeah, that’s helpful. And then I think so. You mentioned that, like

34 00:24:04.030 00:24:10.089 Uttam Kumaran: the Mcp servers, there isn’t there, we can use it within N. 8 n. Right? Like I read some documentation.

35 00:24:10.090 00:24:14.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, we we can use it in anything. We can create it also with anything.

36 00:24:15.510 00:24:16.890 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay. Okay.

37 00:24:16.890 00:24:24.060 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, but I think we should do do that on some Github repo to make it.

38 00:24:24.060 00:24:24.639 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm, okay.

39 00:24:24.640 00:24:25.380 Mustafa Raja: Thanks, so much.

40 00:24:26.200 00:24:27.060 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

41 00:24:28.370 00:24:32.140 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. But if we need, we can make it in editor also.

42 00:24:32.890 00:24:33.480 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

43 00:24:33.740 00:24:44.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and so, regarding the the clay tables. I don’t think that Urls are helping any much.

44 00:24:44.590 00:24:46.060 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, it’s not okay.

45 00:24:46.380 00:24:58.049 Mustafa Raja: Because the the stacks data binding I feel is a little weird. if you would allow me to show you.

46 00:24:58.310 00:24:59.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

47 00:24:59.420 00:25:01.590 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, let me share my screen.

48 00:25:04.620 00:25:08.050 Mustafa Raja: No, okay, yeah.

49 00:25:09.640 00:25:10.770 Mustafa Raja: What’s this?

50 00:25:11.340 00:25:16.219 Mustafa Raja: Yep, let’s get in here this deck.

51 00:25:18.260 00:25:19.200 Mustafa Raja: Okay?

52 00:25:27.280 00:25:34.600 Mustafa Raja: So so I so I’ll show you a test for open AI and how it works.

53 00:25:34.830 00:25:44.410 Mustafa Raja: Let me just get that domain or so good.

54 00:26:02.510 00:26:05.750 Mustafa Raja: Yep. And then main keys.

55 00:26:06.280 00:26:13.537 Mustafa Raja: Okay? So so this account I wasn’t able to put it in one password, because it works with

56 00:26:14.662 00:26:21.460 Mustafa Raja: email verification. They send a code. Send a code to your.

57 00:26:21.460 00:26:22.319 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

58 00:26:22.770 00:26:28.100 Mustafa Raja: And then you have to do that. So there isn’t a password for this, nor a pass key. So

59 00:26:30.540 00:26:34.010 Mustafa Raja: yeah, this.

60 00:26:38.020 00:26:41.039 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So. So so I get the open AI right?

61 00:26:41.420 00:26:51.969 Mustafa Raja: But I’ll also get something else. And why? Why do I get this right? The question is, why do I get this because I specifically asked for openai.com right.

62 00:26:52.980 00:26:53.460 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

63 00:26:53.560 00:26:59.120 Mustafa Raja: Why am I getting this open.de? It is because of this possible domains thing.

64 00:27:01.530 00:27:02.460 Uttam Kumaran: Oh!

65 00:27:02.510 00:27:09.630 Mustafa Raja: So so they think that openai.com is a possible domain for this this company.

66 00:27:09.630 00:27:10.460 Uttam Kumaran: Oh!

67 00:27:10.460 00:27:22.310 Mustafa Raja: And one other. The most weird thing about that. Let’s say, let’s say we don’t. Okay, this is weird. The the main thing is weird. Let’s use Linkedin.

68 00:27:23.230 00:27:23.870 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

69 00:27:24.140 00:27:32.369 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So check this out. It’s the open AI’s linkedin that is connected to this.

70 00:27:34.180 00:27:35.899 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wow! Weird.

71 00:27:35.900 00:27:36.640 Mustafa Raja: Sit.

72 00:27:36.910 00:27:38.090 Uttam Kumaran: So it’s just bad data.

73 00:27:38.590 00:27:59.579 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. And if you do Google, it’s so much worse. If I do google.com, I’ll get maybe like 20 companies that are associated with it. And the okay, okay, let’s say, let’s say, it’s that way. That’s fine, you know. But the. But they should sort these results

74 00:28:00.190 00:28:08.419 Mustafa Raja: in a way that the most probable one the the most probable company that has that domain should be on top right.

75 00:28:09.530 00:28:10.014 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

76 00:28:10.500 00:28:14.469 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if I do, google.com, Google would be the 4th result.

77 00:28:16.760 00:28:22.829 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wow! I mean, but like for the smaller companies, I think it’ll be okay, because we’re not going after like the biggest ones.

78 00:28:22.830 00:28:23.800 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah.

79 00:28:24.000 00:28:39.340 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So so so with names. the total clients in the notion were about 1 0 7, and with names only. I was able to pull 51.

80 00:28:41.610 00:28:42.730 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, okay.

81 00:28:42.890 00:28:48.720 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. And the URL then doesn’t help much.

82 00:28:51.580 00:28:52.950 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm.

83 00:28:52.950 00:29:04.179 Mustafa Raja: If you want, I can. I can set it up. I can say, Okay, whatever the 1st result is for the domain pull it up, but there’s a chance that we might get it wrong.

84 00:29:06.170 00:29:10.940 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, that’s fine. I feel like it’s okay. For now.

85 00:29:12.310 00:29:19.890 Uttam Kumaran: like the way you have it, I think we can. Once we we can, we can wait until we see some really glaring errors and think about how to improve it.

86 00:29:20.400 00:29:26.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so so, so one thing should I? Should I add? Add this, anyway?

87 00:29:27.420 00:29:52.610 Mustafa Raja: Because I have it set up already in the clay like, I, I need to only link because because because then I had to, you know, change the structure of input because at 1st we were only taking in the names of the company. Now I am taking in a Csv that has that in a row would has its name and its URL.

88 00:29:53.430 00:29:54.430 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm.

89 00:29:54.660 00:30:01.699 Mustafa Raja: So. So please let me know if I should continue with that, or I should pull it back.

90 00:30:02.250 00:30:03.880 Uttam Kumaran: Wait. Can you say it? One more time.

91 00:30:05.100 00:30:09.800 Mustafa Raja: So so so before. But let me show you the Csv.

92 00:30:09.800 00:30:10.360 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

93 00:30:10.590 00:30:11.240 Mustafa Raja: And then

94 00:30:12.540 00:30:19.429 Mustafa Raja: so before we were we, we were opening a form, and it was a a field where we would put in the names right.

95 00:30:20.240 00:30:21.090 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

96 00:30:21.180 00:30:28.220 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Now it’s now. Now I’ve deleted that particular field. Rather than that I am taking the Csv.

97 00:30:30.830 00:30:36.039 Mustafa Raja: This. Yes, we would have the name of the company, and then the URL of the company.

98 00:30:38.330 00:30:39.170 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

99 00:30:39.360 00:31:01.100 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and so for firstly, we will, only we will only look up with the name of the company. And how, however many results we get. That’s okay for the ones that we do not get a result we would then, look them up by their URL.

100 00:31:04.770 00:31:06.400 Uttam Kumaran: Hmm, okay.

101 00:31:06.400 00:31:08.940 Mustafa Raja: I hope I’m I’m able to.

102 00:31:08.940 00:31:13.270 Mustafa Raja: Okay, that makes sense. Yeah, yeah. So I think we should leave. I think we should do that.

103 00:31:13.640 00:31:14.400 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, okay.

104 00:31:14.400 00:31:15.900 Uttam Kumaran: Like it should be the Fallback.

105 00:31:16.280 00:31:18.110 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. Yeah. A fallback thing.

106 00:31:18.960 00:31:19.610 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

107 00:31:19.610 00:31:20.310 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

108 00:31:21.013 00:31:30.449 Mustafa Raja: and and I hope that if if the fallback make some error, it wouldn’t be prob a problem, because it might

109 00:31:31.290 00:31:32.689 Mustafa Raja: as I showed you.

110 00:31:34.530 00:31:41.760 Uttam Kumaran: No, that’s fine. I mean. Again, I I think I think we’re at low. We’re not like at the highest volume, so we’ll notice if things are wrong, it’s okay, for now

111 00:31:41.960 00:31:45.999 Uttam Kumaran: it’s not like, it’s not really like going automatically into anything.

112 00:31:46.480 00:31:54.889 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so that’s almost done. I ran some tests last night. I just need to alter some structure now.

113 00:31:55.150 00:31:56.110 Mustafa Raja: for that.

114 00:31:58.030 00:31:58.700 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.

115 00:31:59.300 00:32:00.080 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

116 00:32:02.328 00:32:06.720 Mustafa Raja: And also for the clay to Hubspot ticket.

117 00:32:08.217 00:32:26.960 Mustafa Raja: We only want to send in so so for for Hubspot to clay. If we add a contact, and that contact has a particular what it’s called a campaign id. Only then we’ll be sending it to the clay table. Right? I just want to confirm it.

118 00:32:27.520 00:32:28.270 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.

119 00:32:29.750 00:32:30.630 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.

120 00:32:30.630 00:32:34.439 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I. Yeah, I think this is where, when it, when

121 00:32:34.630 00:32:38.290 Uttam Kumaran: when it gets to Hubspot stuff, we just have to kind of coordinate

122 00:32:38.440 00:32:41.220 Uttam Kumaran: with Robert. I think he’s I think

123 00:32:41.470 00:32:53.219 Uttam Kumaran: I mean we could. We should messages. Can you just send a message in the Sales Channel, because this is where it’s kind of getting past me. He’s the one leading. So we need to meet with him to kind of get confirmation on these. Maybe we can book

124 00:32:53.640 00:32:55.900 Uttam Kumaran: book like an hour of time with him.

125 00:32:56.070 00:33:09.330 Uttam Kumaran: either later today or tomorrow, for him, or or on or Monday for him to to walk through everything, because now I’m sort of out of my where I think a lot of these were sort of at the finish line, so I don’t know how. I don’t have the specific answer.

126 00:33:10.960 00:33:14.488 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay, I’ll book a time with him. There’s 1 more thing

127 00:33:14.760 00:33:15.110 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

128 00:33:15.110 00:33:16.820 Mustafa Raja: Let me share my screen.

129 00:33:18.260 00:33:22.629 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so so so, can you look into this? I had. I had it

130 00:33:24.690 00:33:27.139 Mustafa Raja: open for 2, 3 days now.

131 00:33:28.460 00:33:29.830 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, yeah, that’s fine.

132 00:33:30.010 00:33:32.039 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So I’ll be on.

133 00:33:32.040 00:33:33.120 Uttam Kumaran: Mariange.

134 00:33:33.410 00:33:39.649 Mustafa Raja: And I’ll be only need a day off for Monday, because Saturday and Sunday are covered so.

135 00:33:40.330 00:33:43.920 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, yeah, I guess my only ask is, if you just put that in your calendar.

136 00:33:44.230 00:33:46.790 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I have also put it in my calendar.

137 00:33:47.150 00:33:48.250 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.

138 00:33:48.530 00:33:50.139 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thank, you.

139 00:33:50.620 00:33:57.790 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. Alright. Then I’ll talk to you at the AI team meeting. Yeah. Book a meeting on Monday, if you can.

140 00:33:58.910 00:34:01.030 Uttam Kumaran: for with Robert on the sales. Stuff.

141 00:34:01.530 00:34:02.689 Mustafa Raja: Okay, okay. I’ll do it.

142 00:34:02.690 00:34:06.659 Uttam Kumaran: You can include me, and you can also include Ryan Brosos as well.

143 00:34:07.110 00:34:18.600 Mustafa Raja: Okay, I’ll do that. Yes, I okay. One more thing. The Robert wanted to do the heritage thing. I don’t see a ticket for that.

144 00:34:19.920 00:34:22.080 Mustafa Raja: Should we leave it to the meeting? Then.

145 00:34:22.580 00:34:24.429 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I would leave it for the meeting.

146 00:34:25.139 00:34:27.759 Mustafa Raja: Okay, let’s do that.

147 00:34:28.210 00:34:29.269 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Okay.

148 00:34:30.130 00:34:30.860 Mustafa Raja: Okay.

149 00:34:30.969 00:34:34.689 Mustafa Raja: So how? How do you think my progress is going so far.

150 00:34:35.380 00:34:45.349 Uttam Kumaran: No, it’s been really good man. I’m I’m really happy. I think you’re you’ve been really proactive at taking things on. I think you’ve given a new perspective on

151 00:34:45.860 00:34:54.369 Uttam Kumaran: some of the work that we’re doing. I think I’m very. I’m interested to ask you like, out of all the things you’ve done like what’s been most interesting. And

152 00:34:54.500 00:34:57.439 Uttam Kumaran: what is your perspective and feedback for us?

153 00:34:58.050 00:35:26.390 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So so the lead list builder project has been the most interesting. I I got to learn 2 new tools because because of that the clay and the Hubspot clay I was looking into learning. I couldn’t get the opportunity to, so this provided me the opportunity to get into clay. And Hubspot was a jelly on top so, and Bringforge has been really good my coworkers are good. Miguel and Casey are helpful.

154 00:35:26.600 00:35:29.879 Mustafa Raja: so it’s been a pretty good good experience.

155 00:35:30.520 00:35:36.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I think. What? Hopefully, you’ll see this next month is one where you’ll actually be able to work on some client work.

156 00:35:38.640 00:36:07.430 Uttam Kumaran: So we’re kind of planning out the month. Now, I think second is, yeah. I’m really glad. I think we struggled before to do a lot of this sort of sales automation work, and I think you’ve you’ve really nailed it. So I’m excited. I know it’s kind of a weird week, because Robert is leading a lot of sales stuff, and he’s out. So I think when you meet with him you’ll get some clear, more clear direction. But I don’t think it’ll be anything that you’ll have trouble with. I think the biggest thing for our team as a we collaborate on is

157 00:36:07.470 00:36:13.679 Uttam Kumaran: we’re gonna keep, continue building these like internal tools and automations for the entire company. Like the Zoom.

158 00:36:13.980 00:36:32.610 Uttam Kumaran: the Zoom application, internal slack agents. So we’re just working on a lot of projects. I think that though my only recommendation and I’ve told this to everybody on the team is to try and spend a little bit of time. Or maybe we can create a ticket for each of these. But just to document your work, I think you’ve done a really good job

159 00:36:32.780 00:36:34.149 Uttam Kumaran: with the looms.

160 00:36:34.582 00:36:43.259 Uttam Kumaran: I think. One thing that’s even helpful is every time we record a loom. Or maybe we have a, we basically have a project page where we can take the loom transcripts and

161 00:36:43.500 00:36:57.470 Uttam Kumaran: create some sort of project document from there. But I just think one just good reminder, for everybody is just to try to document as much as you can that way. When new people want to pick it up or want to work on off of your stuff, they have some ability.

162 00:36:57.880 00:37:10.289 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, I’m gonna just I’m I’m trying to think about harder problems for everybody. So as you saw for the Zoom Meeting one, we have like probably 5 or 10 more initiatives to work on there, so it’ll be a lot of

163 00:37:10.740 00:37:12.787 Uttam Kumaran: live coding. It’ll be a lot of

164 00:37:13.250 00:37:15.583 Uttam Kumaran: you know, figuring out interesting.

165 00:37:16.680 00:37:20.790 Uttam Kumaran: just figuring out interesting ways to to automate part of the business.

166 00:37:20.950 00:37:30.662 Uttam Kumaran: And yeah. And then my last thing is, yeah, I mean, I would love, you know. I think out of everybody on the AI team I think you have the you have the most

167 00:37:31.290 00:37:41.110 Uttam Kumaran: interest in sort of like writing blog posts and contributing open source. And in case you are interested in posting stuff on Linkedin.

168 00:37:42.150 00:37:43.969 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, helps to support you.

169 00:37:44.660 00:37:49.939 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, for that. I wanted to ask if I can mention there that I am working with brain foods.

170 00:37:51.280 00:38:04.440 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, so I would. So there’s a couple of ways we sort of we handle. So one Ryan is actually like, he leads a lot of our social media strategy. So I he would be super excited if you’re interested in

171 00:38:04.980 00:38:12.990 Uttam Kumaran: posting content about your work. I think the the way we sort of try to do things is one he’s just really helpful at. Like

172 00:38:13.090 00:38:22.370 Uttam Kumaran: if you need help going from, hey? I have an idea about about a post I want to do. And I have like. Here’s like my thoughts on it. He will help you actually craft

173 00:38:22.590 00:38:25.890 Uttam Kumaran: the post and like maybe even help you do drafts or edit

174 00:38:26.660 00:38:30.520 Uttam Kumaran: So that’s something you’re interested in. We can maybe aim to do one next

175 00:38:30.870 00:38:40.039 Uttam Kumaran: next week, and we can sort of you can work with him on what the topic is. He’ll help you sort of. He’ll ask you some questions and then help you write it. Basically.

176 00:38:40.440 00:38:43.440 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that’s good. So so I can mention that.

177 00:38:43.620 00:38:47.240 Mustafa Raja: So I can mention that I and that I’m working for bring food.

178 00:38:47.600 00:38:48.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, that’s fine.

179 00:38:49.260 00:38:50.139 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, okay.

180 00:38:51.200 00:38:54.549 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. And I think maybe if if you want to I can.

181 00:38:54.810 00:39:01.039 Uttam Kumaran: I can send a message in the marketing channel saying that you’re interested in in posting about some of our work.

182 00:39:01.190 00:39:10.869 Uttam Kumaran: and then maybe have him. I’ll have him plan to do one post or help you post something next week. That could be a blog post that could be Linkedin. It could be both. It could be a video

183 00:39:11.338 00:39:16.070 Uttam Kumaran: so I wanna enable as many people to do that publicly as as possible.

184 00:39:16.400 00:39:24.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, I think I think once this once, this lead list builder, internal thing gets to work, that will be an interesting insight to share.

185 00:39:25.510 00:39:34.849 Uttam Kumaran: I agree? Yeah, so that and the zoom thing. So I I this is where I think it’d be amazing for us to write something about it, and then we all we all post and support each other, you know, in doing that.

186 00:39:34.850 00:39:37.510 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that that will be helpful.

187 00:39:38.930 00:39:44.409 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. So let me send that note right now and then. Let’s plan on that. And yeah, I think it’s been amazing so far. So

188 00:39:44.680 00:39:54.369 Uttam Kumaran: keep pushing. And then, yeah, we’re, gonna I think we’ll have a good next month crushing out more work, and then hopefully, we’ll get you on on a client here soon as well.

189 00:39:54.730 00:39:56.209 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thank you so much.

190 00:39:56.810 00:39:58.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Thank you talk soon.

191 00:39:58.800 00:39:59.880 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, bye-bye.