Meeting Title: Zoom Meeting Date: 2025-05-26 Meeting participants: Mustafa Raja, Uttam Kumaran
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1 00:00:20.190 ⇒ 00:00:21.040 Mustafa Raja: Hello!
2 00:00:21.630 ⇒ 00:00:22.899 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?
3 00:00:23.370 ⇒ 00:00:25.360 Mustafa Raja: I’m good. How are you?
4 00:00:25.360 ⇒ 00:00:27.050 Uttam Kumaran: Good! How’s the day going.
5 00:00:27.590 ⇒ 00:00:28.620 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, it’s pretty good.
6 00:00:30.890 ⇒ 00:00:34.810 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Same, it’s been productive. Yeah, let’s tell me where I can help.
7 00:00:35.780 ⇒ 00:00:38.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I need your opinions. Actually. So.
8 00:00:39.710 ⇒ 00:00:49.859 Mustafa Raja: so my so my idea for story one is to is the story. One has 2 components in pulling the data right? So one is, whoever engages in
9 00:00:50.250 ⇒ 00:01:02.739 Mustafa Raja: with the post, and whoever is going to that event now going to that event would be a little tricky, because, Linkedin does not give you that data unless you join that event.
10 00:01:02.740 ⇒ 00:01:04.859 Uttam Kumaran: It’s mainly just the likes and comments.
11 00:01:05.310 ⇒ 00:01:14.929 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So so I I was thinking the pretty much pretty much the same thing for that. let me send in the chat
12 00:01:18.380 ⇒ 00:01:19.480 Mustafa Raja: Give me a moment.
13 00:01:20.180 ⇒ 00:01:20.959 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, no. Problem.
14 00:01:28.970 ⇒ 00:01:29.800 Mustafa Raja: 16.
15 00:01:30.710 ⇒ 00:01:38.460 Mustafa Raja: So for that, I’m thinking of doing this that way we can this so in text, we would have the event.
16 00:01:38.760 ⇒ 00:01:44.269 Mustafa Raja: and the site would be Linkedin. This would give us every post made about that event right.
17 00:01:46.260 ⇒ 00:01:51.170 Uttam Kumaran: Yes. So let me, exactly. Yeah. So we yeah, you’re you’re.
18 00:01:51.580 ⇒ 00:01:55.820 Uttam Kumaran: You’re right. We want all the posts made about the event. But it’s also helpful if we can get
19 00:01:56.500 ⇒ 00:02:00.920 Uttam Kumaran: who is interacting like liking or commenting on the event itself.
20 00:02:01.420 ⇒ 00:02:03.929 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so so this is the 1st step.
21 00:02:04.600 ⇒ 00:02:08.150 Mustafa Raja: This way. We can get the posts about that event.
22 00:02:08.280 ⇒ 00:02:10.930 Mustafa Raja: Then we get in, get into those posts
23 00:02:11.240 ⇒ 00:02:13.620 Mustafa Raja: and extract the users that are interacting with them.
24 00:02:13.950 ⇒ 00:02:17.590 Mustafa Raja: with the posts. They’re either commenting, reacting, or whatsoever right.
25 00:02:20.323 ⇒ 00:02:21.589 Uttam Kumaran: Say that one more time.
26 00:02:21.940 ⇒ 00:02:28.390 Mustafa Raja: So, so with this we would get the links to the posts made on Linkedin regarding that event right.
27 00:02:29.320 ⇒ 00:02:35.690 Uttam Kumaran: So I think we actually just want the people themselves like, I don’t think we. I don’t think we particularly need
28 00:02:35.900 ⇒ 00:02:37.090 Uttam Kumaran: the posts.
29 00:02:37.720 ⇒ 00:02:40.650 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. But but to get to the people, we would need the correct.
30 00:02:40.930 ⇒ 00:02:41.700 Uttam Kumaran: Correct.
31 00:02:42.890 ⇒ 00:02:47.079 Mustafa Raja: So so this is. This is my idea of getting to to the posts.
32 00:02:47.270 ⇒ 00:02:51.020 Mustafa Raja: And then through those posts posts, we get to the people.
33 00:02:51.320 ⇒ 00:02:51.970 Uttam Kumaran: Correct.
34 00:02:52.530 ⇒ 00:02:55.710 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, so this is essentially what it is.
35 00:02:56.080 ⇒ 00:02:57.320 Uttam Kumaran: I think that’s fine.
36 00:02:57.320 ⇒ 00:02:57.940 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
37 00:02:58.280 ⇒ 00:03:02.760 Mustafa Raja: Now, coming to the scrapers, I would want to use a epip file.
38 00:03:03.190 ⇒ 00:03:03.820 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
39 00:03:04.310 ⇒ 00:03:05.960 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, if you’re okay with that.
40 00:03:05.960 ⇒ 00:03:06.710 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine!
41 00:03:07.100 ⇒ 00:03:07.834 Mustafa Raja: Yeah,
42 00:03:10.140 ⇒ 00:03:17.409 Mustafa Raja: so so I have made an account in epify. And I have 5 $5. I I guess that should be enough to develop the
43 00:03:17.680 ⇒ 00:03:18.660 Mustafa Raja: demo.
44 00:03:19.520 ⇒ 00:03:21.609 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, do we have an account already.
45 00:03:22.670 ⇒ 00:03:33.150 Mustafa Raja: I. I made it myself for me. So I can make this demo, and if we like it we can then move it to the organization’s account.
46 00:03:33.150 ⇒ 00:03:34.569 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, that’s fine.
47 00:03:35.603 ⇒ 00:03:40.900 Mustafa Raja: And then what I wanted to discuss. So yeah, so the now the architecture.
48 00:03:41.770 ⇒ 00:03:44.970 Mustafa Raja: So I want to do this through anytime
49 00:03:45.150 ⇒ 00:03:49.577 Mustafa Raja: how we are. I’m going to use it if I
50 00:03:50.603 ⇒ 00:03:58.450 Mustafa Raja: scrapers to implement this logic. And then once I have the data, I’ll push it to clay through an Api.
51 00:03:58.850 ⇒ 00:03:59.460 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
52 00:03:59.830 ⇒ 00:04:08.700 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, and then from a clay, we can, you know, enrich it and then connect to connect that to Hubspot. I just wanted to confirm. If it rhymes with you.
53 00:04:08.900 ⇒ 00:04:10.619 Uttam Kumaran: That’s fine. Yeah, that makes sense.
54 00:04:10.840 ⇒ 00:04:13.640 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that’s pretty much it.
55 00:04:14.600 ⇒ 00:04:21.090 Uttam Kumaran: So I think probably tomorrow, or think you’ll have something that I can take a look at in terms of Linkedin scraping.
56 00:04:23.001 ⇒ 00:04:37.120 Mustafa Raja: Linkedin. Scraping is tricky a little, but I have found some scrapers that will help us. Okay. So so we we would need 2 kinds of scrapers, one for Linkedin and 1 1 for Google Serp. Search engine.
57 00:04:37.860 ⇒ 00:04:38.650 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
58 00:04:38.650 ⇒ 00:04:39.860 Mustafa Raja: Change, right.
59 00:04:40.170 ⇒ 00:04:40.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
60 00:04:41.280 ⇒ 00:04:43.559 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So that’s all for me.
61 00:04:43.680 ⇒ 00:04:47.769 Mustafa Raja: Okay, 1 1 more thing, if you don’t mind. About your work.
62 00:04:48.460 ⇒ 00:04:58.759 Mustafa Raja: I saw it so. So my question is, why, why aren’t we using brain forges organization account
63 00:04:59.170 ⇒ 00:05:00.200 Mustafa Raja: to bid.
64 00:05:00.740 ⇒ 00:05:01.730 Uttam Kumaran: On upwork.
65 00:05:01.910 ⇒ 00:05:02.560 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
66 00:05:03.458 ⇒ 00:05:09.740 Uttam Kumaran: Well, we just created the agency account, and now we have my profile, and Robert’s profile set up.
67 00:05:10.560 ⇒ 00:05:15.919 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’m asking this, because let’s say, let’s say we hit a client.
68 00:05:16.230 ⇒ 00:05:16.820 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
69 00:05:16.990 ⇒ 00:05:21.109 Mustafa Raja: Right so, and it’s an early client like client, right.
70 00:05:21.270 ⇒ 00:05:21.960 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
71 00:05:22.300 ⇒ 00:05:23.790 Mustafa Raja: So we have to log us.
72 00:05:26.046 ⇒ 00:05:34.010 Uttam Kumaran: Well, so the thing is, we don’t actually a lot of our clients. We we hit them directly after, and we sign them off the platform.
73 00:05:34.590 ⇒ 00:05:43.309 Mustafa Raja: Oh, okay, okay, that’s okay. Because I was thinking, we cannot log log us for multiple clients at the same time. So that might, you know, be an issue.
74 00:05:43.310 ⇒ 00:05:52.689 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, most of our clients. We move off the platform pretty fast. Yeah, like, we don’t do a lot of billing directly on the platform. We use it just to like, get the leads.
75 00:05:53.351 ⇒ 00:05:58.770 Uttam Kumaran: and then, as soon as we find out what the company is, we sort of like, connect with them directly, and try to do the business there.
76 00:05:59.670 ⇒ 00:06:01.860 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So we that’s good.
77 00:06:01.860 ⇒ 00:06:05.360 Uttam Kumaran: We set up gig radar, and then my account and his account is set up.
78 00:06:05.817 ⇒ 00:06:11.512 Uttam Kumaran: I mean we could use. We could add your account as well, but I think we may just have may just start with 2,
79 00:06:11.850 ⇒ 00:06:16.799 Uttam Kumaran: and then I think Robert is setting up gig radar and starting to run the automations.
80 00:06:17.010 ⇒ 00:06:20.309 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, that’s good. I just had one concern, and
81 00:06:20.910 ⇒ 00:06:23.350 Mustafa Raja: I didn’t know that we moved. We moved accounts.
82 00:06:23.540 ⇒ 00:06:26.509 Uttam Kumaran: No, no, no, that. Yeah, no, it’s a good question.
83 00:06:27.140 ⇒ 00:06:33.199 Mustafa Raja: Thank you so much. So so I’m assuming that we we are, we are okay with this implementation.
84 00:06:33.400 ⇒ 00:06:40.989 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I’m fine with that. Just just send me looms or anything as you as you start to to make progress.
85 00:06:40.990 ⇒ 00:06:43.890 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, I’ll I’ll attach the rooms to
86 00:06:43.890 ⇒ 00:06:46.110 Mustafa Raja: the looms have been very, very helpful. By the way, thank you.
87 00:06:46.110 ⇒ 00:06:48.252 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. One more thing about that.
88 00:06:49.870 ⇒ 00:06:52.169 Mustafa Raja: I hope I’m not taking much of your time.
89 00:06:53.070 ⇒ 00:06:55.890 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, no, no, no! You’re totally fine. This is what I’m here for.
90 00:06:55.890 ⇒ 00:06:58.000 Mustafa Raja: Let me let me just pull this up.
91 00:06:58.450 ⇒ 00:07:00.710 Mustafa Raja: and I might want to share my screen.
92 00:07:04.710 ⇒ 00:07:05.860 Mustafa Raja: Just a moment, please.
93 00:07:05.860 ⇒ 00:07:07.269 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no. Problem.
94 00:07:17.180 ⇒ 00:07:22.649 Mustafa Raja: Soup let me just share my screen.
95 00:07:23.490 ⇒ 00:07:24.320 Mustafa Raja: No.
96 00:07:25.430 ⇒ 00:07:26.350 Mustafa Raja: How do you do that?
97 00:07:27.310 ⇒ 00:07:28.010 Mustafa Raja: This?
98 00:07:28.770 ⇒ 00:07:31.539 Mustafa Raja: Oh, no! I have to set up my system settings.
99 00:07:31.540 ⇒ 00:07:33.729 Uttam Kumaran: Wait. Just set it up and come back. I’ll be here.
100 00:07:41.850 ⇒ 00:07:44.050 Mustafa Raja: Good. Oh, I’ll be back.
101 00:07:44.050 ⇒ 00:07:44.889 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yeah, no. Problem.
102 00:08:09.150 ⇒ 00:08:09.880 Mustafa Raja: I don’t.
103 00:08:10.350 ⇒ 00:08:10.990 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
104 00:08:13.350 ⇒ 00:08:14.420 Mustafa Raja: Deceit.
105 00:08:14.820 ⇒ 00:08:15.480 Uttam Kumaran: Yes.
106 00:08:16.560 ⇒ 00:08:17.710 Mustafa Raja: So
107 00:08:24.580 ⇒ 00:08:30.670 Mustafa Raja: so yeah, so with this, that’s good here and here.
108 00:08:35.580 ⇒ 00:08:41.199 Mustafa Raja: this doesn’t matter much. So so this is, did you? Did you look at the loom for this.
109 00:08:41.710 ⇒ 00:08:42.969 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, this morning.
110 00:08:42.970 ⇒ 00:08:50.209 Mustafa Raja: Yeah. So do we? Do we want to move? Move this to at the client? Hubs.
111 00:08:50.450 ⇒ 00:08:53.290 Uttam Kumaran: That would be great. Yeah, ideally, we can use this.
112 00:08:53.290 ⇒ 00:08:53.909 Mustafa Raja: From there.
113 00:08:54.190 ⇒ 00:08:55.400 Uttam Kumaran: For every client, hub.
114 00:08:55.750 ⇒ 00:08:58.879 Mustafa Raja: So, for that there would be 2, 2 methods.
115 00:08:59.442 ⇒ 00:09:05.330 Mustafa Raja: One would be to have a universal app specifically with for this thing.
116 00:09:05.510 ⇒ 00:09:06.160 Uttam Kumaran: Okay.
117 00:09:06.500 ⇒ 00:09:15.549 Mustafa Raja: Like so then what will happen is we’ll go here, and we’ll just say, let’s say, let’s say, this is the app. This is the universal app, the jab.
118 00:09:15.550 ⇒ 00:09:16.290 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.
119 00:09:16.600 ⇒ 00:09:23.260 Mustafa Raja: And then Jabby, and then we’ll have to tag one of the.
120 00:09:24.160 ⇒ 00:09:25.969 Uttam Kumaran: I see to switch it.
121 00:09:26.240 ⇒ 00:09:26.700 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
122 00:09:26.700 ⇒ 00:09:30.860 Uttam Kumaran: I guess my point is more of like, you know, the interface on Chat Gpt
123 00:09:31.250 ⇒ 00:09:35.410 Uttam Kumaran: is just like helpful, because you can switch models quickly. Right?
124 00:09:36.050 ⇒ 00:09:40.959 Uttam Kumaran: Like, for example, in case you have a task that requires one model versus another.
125 00:09:41.150 ⇒ 00:09:44.669 Uttam Kumaran: it’s helpful to offer that right. That’s the biggest thing.
126 00:09:44.990 ⇒ 00:09:45.580 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
127 00:09:45.930 ⇒ 00:09:57.279 Mustafa Raja: so so we can have something like that on slack if we if we we, what we, what we can do, I believe is on this Javi thing.
128 00:09:57.780 ⇒ 00:09:58.160 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a.
129 00:09:58.160 ⇒ 00:10:04.689 Mustafa Raja: Let’s say, call it Javi switch model, and then we can open up a model here.
130 00:10:05.330 ⇒ 00:10:06.890 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, like a model. Little Ui.
131 00:10:07.060 ⇒ 00:10:12.730 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, model ui, and then there would be a dropdown to select any of the models that they want.
132 00:10:14.150 ⇒ 00:10:16.739 Uttam Kumaran: I’m i i would prefer that
133 00:10:17.211 ⇒ 00:10:19.259 Uttam Kumaran: but again, like I don’t know.
134 00:10:19.750 ⇒ 00:10:29.360 Uttam Kumaran: I don’t know yet. It’s like it’s going to be just me switching models, but I want to offer some flexibility for people to say, like, I want to use this agent with a different model.
135 00:10:30.060 ⇒ 00:10:36.440 Mustafa Raja: Yes, yeah, I get it. And also we can add, what? What do we say?
136 00:10:39.160 ⇒ 00:10:46.370 Mustafa Raja: Some kind of admin access? Only right? So only some of the people in the organization should be able to change.
137 00:10:46.370 ⇒ 00:10:47.229 Uttam Kumaran: There’s a model.
138 00:10:47.510 ⇒ 00:10:48.060 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
139 00:10:48.400 ⇒ 00:10:50.160 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, yes.
140 00:10:50.160 ⇒ 00:10:59.680 Uttam Kumaran: for the most part, I think 4 0, but like again, if some, if we want to work on something that need once they release the O 3, or they have 4.5. Now as an Api. So.
141 00:11:00.690 ⇒ 00:11:01.280 Mustafa Raja: Yeah.
142 00:11:03.570 ⇒ 00:11:06.129 Uttam Kumaran: And then to the Gemini models. And then, if we want to add open source.
143 00:11:06.619 ⇒ 00:11:12.980 Mustafa Raja: Pretty good. Gemini actually understand the tools way much better than for.
144 00:11:13.330 ⇒ 00:11:14.440 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, really. Okay.
145 00:11:14.900 ⇒ 00:11:23.290 Mustafa Raja: Yeah on entertain it. It doesn’t work really good. But if you’re working with llama and excel and it it really
146 00:11:23.850 ⇒ 00:11:24.670 Mustafa Raja: wonders you.
147 00:11:25.330 ⇒ 00:11:28.399 Uttam Kumaran: Oh, wow, okay, great. I mean, that’s what I’m hoping we can test
148 00:11:28.790 ⇒ 00:11:32.340 Uttam Kumaran: here soon, like once we finish this original sales thing.
149 00:11:32.750 ⇒ 00:11:42.500 Uttam Kumaran: I think we’ll start to continue to work on more agent work. I just want to see people start to use it, you know, mainly like Amber is using and a few other people are using it. So I want them to get the feedback quickly and give it to us.
150 00:11:42.500 ⇒ 00:11:43.749 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, thank, you.
151 00:11:46.730 ⇒ 00:11:47.910 Uttam Kumaran: So, okay, okay.
152 00:11:47.910 ⇒ 00:11:50.229 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, that that’s all, I guess from me.
153 00:11:51.150 ⇒ 00:11:57.070 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect. Alright. Just ping me if you ping me if you need anything, and I’ll just be reviewing tickets later today. So.
154 00:11:57.670 ⇒ 00:11:58.829 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, yeah, sure.
155 00:11:59.430 ⇒ 00:12:01.470 Uttam Kumaran: Okay. Thank you talk soon.
156 00:12:01.870 ⇒ 00:12:02.810 Mustafa Raja: Yeah, bye-bye.
157 00:12:02.810 ⇒ 00:12:03.390 Uttam Kumaran: Bye.