Meeting Title: Zoom Meeting Date: 2025-05-13 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Hannah Wang
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1 00:00:55.090 ⇒ 00:00:56.020 Robert Tseng: Hello!
2 00:00:56.573 ⇒ 00:00:57.126 Hannah Wang: Hello!
3 00:01:01.200 ⇒ 00:01:03.490 Hannah Wang: Oh.
4 00:01:08.270 ⇒ 00:01:09.290 Robert Tseng: How’s it going.
5 00:01:11.341 ⇒ 00:01:14.649 Hannah Wang: Tired. But that’s okay. Yeah.
6 00:01:17.110 ⇒ 00:01:18.149 Hannah Wang: How are you.
7 00:01:19.820 ⇒ 00:01:23.199 Robert Tseng: Good. This is a good energy this week.
8 00:01:23.350 ⇒ 00:01:24.130 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah.
9 00:01:24.130 ⇒ 00:01:31.519 Robert Tseng: Like things are. Finally, new new stuff is coming in. So.
10 00:01:32.180 ⇒ 00:01:37.080 Hannah Wang: Like clients and stuff. Yeah, wait. What’s readme? What’s that company.
11 00:01:38.340 ⇒ 00:01:40.220 Robert Tseng: It’s a technical Docs company.
12 00:01:41.990 ⇒ 00:01:46.970 Hannah Wang: That they like name themselves after the Github, or, like all the okay.
13 00:01:47.260 ⇒ 00:01:47.840 Robert Tseng: Think so.
14 00:01:48.120 ⇒ 00:01:48.670 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
15 00:01:49.990 ⇒ 00:01:51.330 Robert Tseng: Wait. Is it called Remy.
16 00:01:52.260 ⇒ 00:01:52.850 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
17 00:01:53.230 ⇒ 00:01:53.880 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
18 00:01:54.240 ⇒ 00:02:00.420 Robert Tseng: yeah, one of our, I guess one of our partners well, operating with one of the tools we use. It uses. Readme.
19 00:02:00.670 ⇒ 00:02:02.210 Hannah Wang: Oh, I see
20 00:02:03.870 ⇒ 00:02:10.259 Hannah Wang: operating. I’m like trying to remember all these companies by their Logos, and then it helps me. Remember.
21 00:02:10.759 ⇒ 00:02:17.433 Robert Tseng: Yeah, just testing tools all the time. And like, Hey, this is that like.
22 00:02:17.910 ⇒ 00:02:18.720 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
23 00:02:19.960 ⇒ 00:02:24.839 Hannah Wang: And then you’re closing a deal with, wait. So what’s the Mcaw thing? Is that a client.
24 00:02:25.595 ⇒ 00:02:29.650 Robert Tseng: So I guess so. Yeah, actually.
25 00:02:30.280 ⇒ 00:02:35.839 Robert Tseng: yesterday was not a good day. They made me feel bad. I like had a whole. I had a whole existential crisis. Yesterday.
26 00:02:35.990 ⇒ 00:02:36.610 Hannah Wang: Oh no!
27 00:02:37.350 ⇒ 00:02:42.180 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Okay, I mean, long story short, Mcgow is basically like a bigger agency.
28 00:02:42.440 ⇒ 00:02:46.259 Robert Tseng: They’re like, probably 3 times their size revenue wise. And then.
29 00:02:46.770 ⇒ 00:02:54.589 Robert Tseng: which is like, Yeah, I mean, be nice to be there, but also like, not that big but yeah, they
30 00:02:58.030 ⇒ 00:03:05.623 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So I’ve been talking to the guy who founded that organization. He’s been running the company for like 10 years or something. And
31 00:03:06.630 ⇒ 00:03:12.500 Robert Tseng: I guess they’re looking it like it might actually be a really good fit for us capabilities wise because
32 00:03:13.030 ⇒ 00:03:24.139 Robert Tseng: they don’t have anybody doing data, engineering work and doing like insights or AI like they’re they’re like an older tech services agency. But they work with a lot of the big companies
33 00:03:24.370 ⇒ 00:03:30.779 Robert Tseng: like big software companies like started in the early 2 thousands like, you know, pre like 2,015, probably.
34 00:03:30.980 ⇒ 00:03:35.219 Robert Tseng: So like service, Titan, if you’ve heard of that.
35 00:03:35.825 ⇒ 00:03:39.180 Robert Tseng: they’re based in la, like tipalty, also based in la.
36 00:03:39.720 ⇒ 00:03:47.340 Robert Tseng: yeah, so these like traditional Saas companies that just like haven’t really updated their data stack yet. So
37 00:03:47.520 ⇒ 00:03:52.230 Robert Tseng: anyway, like, they’ve been wanting to like work with or like, acquire some
38 00:03:53.700 ⇒ 00:03:59.723 Robert Tseng: a team to like or like to extend their capabilities there, we might actually be a good fit for them. But
39 00:04:00.950 ⇒ 00:04:05.499 Robert Tseng: yeah. So I’ve been talking to them. They wanna like do like a couple
40 00:04:05.850 ⇒ 00:04:12.260 Robert Tseng: deals together basically bring us onto their existing clients and then help them with like
41 00:04:12.380 ⇒ 00:04:17.269 Robert Tseng: snowflake work and doing like, yeah, like some of the stuff that we already do.
42 00:04:17.279 ⇒ 00:04:17.919 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
43 00:04:19.779 ⇒ 00:04:20.610 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
44 00:04:21.070 ⇒ 00:04:24.900 Robert Tseng: So that’s what that is. So, their partner, not a client.
45 00:04:25.890 ⇒ 00:04:27.980 Hannah Wang: Okay, I’m still like, confused.
46 00:04:28.440 ⇒ 00:04:34.469 Hannah Wang: I get confused between like or I know what a client is. But like a partner and all that business
47 00:04:35.330 ⇒ 00:04:39.860 Hannah Wang: stuff. I’m like, what? What is all this terms.
48 00:04:39.860 ⇒ 00:04:40.580 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
49 00:04:40.580 ⇒ 00:04:41.350 Hannah Wang: But.
50 00:04:41.610 ⇒ 00:04:47.550 Robert Tseng: I mean partners pretty like loosely defined.
51 00:04:47.730 ⇒ 00:04:52.130 Robert Tseng: To be honest, I feel like Utam calls too many people partners.
52 00:04:52.992 ⇒ 00:04:58.650 Robert Tseng: Why do we have so many partner channels from people who don’t actually give us anything so.
53 00:04:58.650 ⇒ 00:04:59.530 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
54 00:05:00.510 ⇒ 00:05:08.090 Robert Tseng: I feel like the people that I turn into partner channels like actually have stuff for us. But anyway, that’s them.
55 00:05:08.320 ⇒ 00:05:12.078 Robert Tseng: If that’s what it keeps them going like he can keep adding to that list, I guess.
56 00:05:13.060 ⇒ 00:05:13.830 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
57 00:05:14.170 ⇒ 00:05:21.870 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, there’s too many channels that start with. P, now. So I’m like, I can’t like partnership promotion.
58 00:05:22.280 ⇒ 00:05:22.750 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
59 00:05:23.170 ⇒ 00:05:29.059 Robert Tseng: Just like, create sections. I throw everything with partnership into the partnership section.
60 00:05:29.060 ⇒ 00:05:30.720 Hannah Wang: Oh, that’s.
61 00:05:30.720 ⇒ 00:05:34.509 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it helps me to organize like I’ll I’ll show you real quick.
62 00:05:34.510 ⇒ 00:05:35.710 Hannah Wang: I should do that.
63 00:05:38.860 ⇒ 00:05:40.410 Hannah Wang: Oh.
64 00:05:40.410 ⇒ 00:05:41.569 Robert Tseng: So I just like
65 00:05:42.440 ⇒ 00:05:50.449 Robert Tseng: I mean, it could be even more organized. But like anything that’s opportunity and sales related go to market. Have a partnership section.
66 00:05:50.950 ⇒ 00:05:57.119 Robert Tseng: I mean, yeah, I mean, I, yeah, anyway. So that helps me to stay organized. I have it by client, too. Like, yeah.
67 00:05:57.120 ⇒ 00:05:58.480 Hannah Wang: Hmm, okay.
68 00:05:58.620 ⇒ 00:06:08.049 Hannah Wang: yeah, wait. Can you explain? Go to market? I’ve literally tried to ask AI this, and I forget every time. And I feel like you’re good at explaining. So what is, go to market.
69 00:06:08.320 ⇒ 00:06:11.060 Robert Tseng: I go to market. It’s just sales, you know. It’s just like.
70 00:06:11.060 ⇒ 00:06:15.950 Hannah Wang: Why do you have to call it? Go to Market Scott Sale? It’s so confusing.
71 00:06:16.570 ⇒ 00:06:17.040 Robert Tseng: Oh, good!
72 00:06:17.040 ⇒ 00:06:23.149 Hannah Wang: People just make up terms for anything, and they coin it. And I’m like, this is so unnecessary. But okay.
73 00:06:23.430 ⇒ 00:06:23.920 Hannah Wang: see you later.
74 00:06:23.920 ⇒ 00:06:31.869 Robert Tseng: Okay, like sales is part of go to market. I would say. It’s like a subset like, Go to market includes marketing and sales. It’s like.
75 00:06:31.870 ⇒ 00:06:32.630 Hannah Wang: Okay.
76 00:06:32.880 ⇒ 00:06:45.240 Robert Tseng: Because I feel like marketing is about like generating awareness, and then sales is more focused on like closing like or conversions so like that whole like operation is like called go to market operations.
77 00:06:45.240 ⇒ 00:06:46.429 Hannah Wang: I see. Okay.
78 00:06:47.340 ⇒ 00:06:48.240 Robert Tseng: So.
79 00:06:49.256 ⇒ 00:06:49.803 Hannah Wang: Alright!
80 00:06:50.940 ⇒ 00:06:55.039 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s whatever it’s just semantics.
81 00:06:55.040 ⇒ 00:06:56.609 Hannah Wang: Yeah, okay, yeah. I’ll.
82 00:06:56.610 ⇒ 00:06:57.190 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
83 00:06:57.190 ⇒ 00:07:01.839 Hannah Wang: All this. The corporate lingo and stuff. It’s just another part.
84 00:07:02.430 ⇒ 00:07:03.280 Hannah Wang: But.
85 00:07:03.850 ⇒ 00:07:04.440 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
86 00:07:05.980 ⇒ 00:07:11.450 Hannah Wang: Well, that’s good. Yeah. I feel like there’s a lot more like
87 00:07:11.820 ⇒ 00:07:18.369 Hannah Wang: stuff that’s happening that actually might be fruitful. Or I’m just kinda like lurking and stuff.
88 00:07:18.370 ⇒ 00:07:26.679 Robert Tseng: Good. Yeah. I mean, that’s that’s why we’ve been adding people, because we don’t want people to feel like nothing’s coming like things are happening. Maybe you don’t see it. But like.
89 00:07:26.940 ⇒ 00:07:27.710 Robert Tseng: yeah.
90 00:07:28.220 ⇒ 00:07:31.780 Hannah Wang: Yeah, that’s good. But also I can get.
91 00:07:32.740 ⇒ 00:07:36.970 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I feel like, that’s why my brain is kind of like all over the place.
92 00:07:38.110 ⇒ 00:07:39.600 Hannah Wang: Just trying to keep track of
93 00:07:39.810 ⇒ 00:07:48.719 Hannah Wang: everything. But then also learning to. Yeah, remember that not everything is important or not. Everything is urgent.
94 00:07:49.780 ⇒ 00:07:50.500 Hannah Wang: The urgent.
95 00:07:50.500 ⇒ 00:07:52.519 Robert Tseng: That’s why I use the hashtags.
96 00:07:52.520 ⇒ 00:07:55.552 Hannah Wang: Yeah, that that’s helpful. Not everyone uses that, though.
97 00:07:55.890 ⇒ 00:08:03.640 Robert Tseng: I know I’m trying to get people to do it, but it’s it’s helpful for me, because, like, I have to respond to a bunch of things in the morning. I literally go into slack, and I type in like.
98 00:08:03.640 ⇒ 00:08:04.105 Hannah Wang: Oh,
99 00:08:04.570 ⇒ 00:08:08.789 Robert Tseng: My hashtag like recommendation, or whatever I’ll sort it by like.
100 00:08:09.240 ⇒ 00:08:11.780 Robert Tseng: Most recent. And then I’ll just go and see if like.
101 00:08:12.590 ⇒ 00:08:14.870 Robert Tseng: Did those things get action. If not, then I’ll like.
102 00:08:15.320 ⇒ 00:08:15.940 Hannah Wang: Follow up,
103 00:08:16.620 ⇒ 00:08:24.210 Robert Tseng: For the Fyi is like, I don’t care. I don’t follow up. No one responds like it’s fine. But like, Yeah, there’s like a couple of hashtags that I monitor very closely
104 00:08:24.400 ⇒ 00:08:27.110 Robert Tseng: to just make sure things keep going. Yeah.
105 00:08:27.110 ⇒ 00:08:28.420 Hannah Wang: Yeah, that’s helpful.
106 00:08:29.190 ⇒ 00:08:30.060 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
107 00:08:30.910 ⇒ 00:08:31.790 Hannah Wang: So.
108 00:08:32.110 ⇒ 00:08:33.090 Hannah Wang: And
109 00:08:33.970 ⇒ 00:08:43.860 Hannah Wang: yeah, what what can I help with? I mean, I know you need like that email thing. Because Matthew sorry. What’s his name? Mateo.
110 00:08:43.860 ⇒ 00:08:46.080 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah, Matt, Mattieu.
111 00:08:46.080 ⇒ 00:08:46.650 Hannah Wang: That’s you.
112 00:08:46.650 ⇒ 00:08:50.349 Robert Tseng: Yeah, he’s French dude. I don’t actually know how to say his name.
113 00:08:50.857 ⇒ 00:08:54.979 Robert Tseng: That’s awkward, I mean I she just told me call me back.
114 00:08:55.270 ⇒ 00:08:58.309 Robert Tseng: But like, I think it’s, I think it’s with you. Okay.
115 00:08:59.320 ⇒ 00:09:05.970 Hannah Wang: So you’re trying to schedule, or you’re trying to send. Start an email thread with him right for the.
116 00:09:06.560 ⇒ 00:09:07.480 Hannah Wang: Used to.
117 00:09:07.890 ⇒ 00:09:13.230 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So I know, like doing interview with Salal, or I don’t really understand like what’s happening there. But.
118 00:09:14.040 ⇒ 00:09:17.690 Hannah Wang: It’s not really an interview. I think it’s just the discussion.
119 00:09:17.870 ⇒ 00:09:22.530 Hannah Wang: So we’re just gonna they’re just gonna hop on a zoom, and I’ll be there, and then we’re.
120 00:09:22.530 ⇒ 00:09:24.819 Robert Tseng: Oh, you’re gonna like, facilitate it.
121 00:09:24.820 ⇒ 00:09:38.339 Hannah Wang: No, no, no, I’m just gonna have my video off. But just to make sure everything’s being recorded and stuff like logistically, I’ll be in the zoom. But I’ll have my video off, and then I’ll hide non video participants. So in the recording, it’s just
122 00:09:38.770 ⇒ 00:09:41.489 Hannah Wang: the CEO and Utam talking.
123 00:09:42.110 ⇒ 00:09:47.089 Hannah Wang: and then it’ll just be like a discussion. So it’s not really an interview. I think so.
124 00:09:47.290 ⇒ 00:09:53.430 Hannah Wang: Yeah, this will this be like, Oh, you’re actually who’s gonna facilitate like the.
125 00:09:54.410 ⇒ 00:10:04.159 Robert Tseng: Think I would probably do it. It’s probably not gonna be like a. It’ll be more discussion oriented like, I want us to have like interesting talk, so we can like actually cut it up and
126 00:10:04.390 ⇒ 00:10:05.800 Robert Tseng: stupid. But.
127 00:10:05.800 ⇒ 00:10:06.350 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
128 00:10:06.880 ⇒ 00:10:18.410 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean him and Henry, both guys that I met last week like we’re super down to do it. And I think they’re super interested people like Henry’s, like a Korean dude who, like lived in Brazil for like 5 years, or whatever, and
129 00:10:19.360 ⇒ 00:10:21.910 Robert Tseng: like doing data stuff for
130 00:10:22.710 ⇒ 00:10:26.079 Robert Tseng: some of the Brazilian Government, or whatever so.
131 00:10:26.080 ⇒ 00:10:26.940 Hannah Wang: Wow!
132 00:10:27.090 ⇒ 00:10:27.980 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
133 00:10:27.980 ⇒ 00:10:35.150 Robert Tseng: So I’m interested. I mean, like, they’re they’re just both interesting people. And I’m like, there’s so many. There’s so many really
134 00:10:35.260 ⇒ 00:10:39.410 Robert Tseng: like competent experts out there.
135 00:10:39.520 ⇒ 00:10:45.580 Robert Tseng: I mean, gay people are like nerds, and like they don’t do this kind of marketing stuff.
136 00:10:45.580 ⇒ 00:10:46.000 Hannah Wang: Oh!
137 00:10:46.000 ⇒ 00:10:49.410 Robert Tseng: And so when when I asked them like, Hey, like we could.
138 00:10:50.400 ⇒ 00:10:56.799 Robert Tseng: yeah, we could do an interview with you kind of promote, like what you want to say, and whatever they’re like, super down. So.
139 00:10:57.000 ⇒ 00:10:59.830 Robert Tseng: And I think it’s just like a great way for us to like.
140 00:10:59.980 ⇒ 00:11:02.021 Robert Tseng: get a bunch of content.
141 00:11:03.650 ⇒ 00:11:12.879 Robert Tseng: yeah, maybe like what they say, we end up turning into like other other things. But yeah, it’s like a way to fill in like our calendar when we don’t have events and stuff going on.
142 00:11:13.670 ⇒ 00:11:25.330 Hannah Wang: Yeah, well, we yeah. So for the so while labs, what happened was, Uton made like a channel on slack, and then added, all of us, and then I made like a kickoff meeting.
143 00:11:25.891 ⇒ 00:11:48.009 Hannah Wang: And then we, Tom, kind of put together like a notion of potential topics that they can talk about, and then we just discussed or they look the the dude. Osman is his name. He looked at that Async, and then we just like hopped on the call and then talked about the topics and what you want, what they would want to discuss. And then I kinda talked like logistics.
144 00:11:48.330 ⇒ 00:11:52.550 Hannah Wang: And then we’ve been like following up in the Channel. So I feel like we can just move all of that.
145 00:11:52.550 ⇒ 00:11:55.480 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s exactly what I want to do that we don’t do email. I could just.
146 00:11:55.480 ⇒ 00:11:56.180 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
147 00:11:56.300 ⇒ 00:11:56.920 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
148 00:11:56.920 ⇒ 00:12:14.829 Hannah Wang: Yeah, so make a channel with you, him or Mathieu and Henry, and then or separately, obviously me and maybe Ryan. And then you can just like be like Hi, meet Ryan and Hannah from marketing, and then I’ll take it from there and then, if you could come up with like a
149 00:12:15.430 ⇒ 00:12:17.960 Hannah Wang: notion of topics that
150 00:12:18.200 ⇒ 00:12:24.270 Hannah Wang: you would want to discuss with him, and then send that there and then ask him to look at it. I’ll schedule like a
151 00:12:24.970 ⇒ 00:12:29.009 Hannah Wang: kickoff meeting, or do that, Async, and then we can schedule a time.
152 00:12:29.360 ⇒ 00:12:33.619 Hannah Wang: Let me just add you to one of them, or let me just like screenshot.
153 00:12:34.010 ⇒ 00:12:37.630 Robert Tseng: I just. I’m just gonna lurk and join. And I just joined the salal one.
154 00:12:37.780 ⇒ 00:12:40.170 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, yeah, that one is the one.
155 00:12:40.370 ⇒ 00:12:41.910 Robert Tseng: He has a very square head.
156 00:12:42.930 ⇒ 00:12:46.099 Hannah Wang: He. He’s he’s square, like I.
157 00:12:48.150 ⇒ 00:12:51.939 Hannah Wang: He’s like a beefy dude and strict.
158 00:12:51.940 ⇒ 00:12:55.700 Robert Tseng: Yeah, his face is a square. Then his top is a square, too.
159 00:12:56.620 ⇒ 00:12:57.660 Hannah Wang: It’s Buddy.
160 00:12:58.770 ⇒ 00:13:00.609 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
161 00:13:00.610 ⇒ 00:13:10.429 Hannah Wang: yeah, that’s kind of what what happened. But I just basically facilitate stuff. But you would need to like fill in the notion and whatnot. That’s chill. Yeah.
162 00:13:10.430 ⇒ 00:13:11.090 Robert Tseng: Perfect.
163 00:13:11.370 ⇒ 00:13:13.240 Robert Tseng: Okay, I will probably do that. Then.
164 00:13:13.390 ⇒ 00:13:14.090 Hannah Wang: Okay.
165 00:13:14.560 ⇒ 00:13:15.220 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
166 00:13:16.757 ⇒ 00:13:17.830 Hannah Wang: Yeah, well, actually.
167 00:13:17.830 ⇒ 00:13:19.069 Robert Tseng: Server, email, yeah.
168 00:13:19.070 ⇒ 00:13:21.309 Hannah Wang: Yeah, actually hold on, because I feel like
169 00:13:21.490 ⇒ 00:13:32.469 Hannah Wang: we have a lot of stuff happening. So I think maybe one of them we can hold off on, because we don’t want to work on more than 2 things at a time at any given time.
170 00:13:32.630 ⇒ 00:13:38.799 Hannah Wang: So maybe just yeah, start one of them, and then I’ll let you know when we can start the other one
171 00:13:39.312 ⇒ 00:13:42.459 Hannah Wang: cause. Right now we have like a lot lot going on, so.
172 00:13:42.460 ⇒ 00:13:43.050 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
173 00:13:48.270 ⇒ 00:13:52.510 Hannah Wang: yeah, cause we have the soil lab stuff. And then what? You recall
174 00:13:53.460 ⇒ 00:13:57.110 Hannah Wang: polyatomic. So once that’s over, I’ll let you know.
175 00:13:57.420 ⇒ 00:13:58.040 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
176 00:13:59.980 ⇒ 00:14:01.050 Hannah Wang: Okay.
177 00:14:01.965 ⇒ 00:14:04.110 Hannah Wang: Anything, anything else?
178 00:14:04.580 ⇒ 00:14:08.040 Hannah Wang: I feel like all the asset days are over like.
179 00:14:08.040 ⇒ 00:14:08.620 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
180 00:14:08.620 ⇒ 00:14:10.319 Hannah Wang: For assets and stuff.
181 00:14:10.780 ⇒ 00:14:23.269 Robert Tseng: Yeah, no, it’s it’s good. I think we’re. We’re in a good place. I been able to just like repurpose things. Yeah, like, I just like adjusted. I took some of our old sows, and I like just stripped out client names, and like, just
182 00:14:23.630 ⇒ 00:14:28.710 Robert Tseng: through a couple of samples. And I sent that over to the cost. That was good. I’ll probably have to reuse that again.
183 00:14:28.850 ⇒ 00:14:29.550 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
184 00:14:30.680 ⇒ 00:14:35.216 Robert Tseng: I guess there’s maybe a couple more asset things that we’re gonna have to create like,
185 00:14:37.260 ⇒ 00:14:39.340 Robert Tseng: what was I talking about today?
186 00:14:40.450 ⇒ 00:14:47.107 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So one of the opportunities is to basically, yeah, like, I have a friend in the city. She’s like launching a
187 00:14:47.590 ⇒ 00:14:55.720 Robert Tseng: a specialty medical clinic in West village, and we’re like Dash, I guess we’re kind of in the running to be like her data
188 00:14:56.040 ⇒ 00:15:01.040 Robert Tseng: partner, I guess. Yeah, I think
189 00:15:01.840 ⇒ 00:15:05.999 Robert Tseng: she asked for some stuff I don’t know off top my head, but like I we might have to.
190 00:15:06.220 ⇒ 00:15:08.730 Robert Tseng: I mean, that’s not a rush, anyway, like she
191 00:15:08.840 ⇒ 00:15:19.389 Robert Tseng: yeah, like the whole. I mean, that whole process takes a long time like the fact that I was like, Oh, yeah, we could do something in 2 weeks. She was like Whoa, I mean, I think 8 weeks is fine.
192 00:15:19.390 ⇒ 00:15:20.050 Hannah Wang: Okay.
193 00:15:20.050 ⇒ 00:15:22.459 Robert Tseng: And I was like, okay, sure.
194 00:15:22.460 ⇒ 00:15:26.970 Hannah Wang: We just move fast. I feel like here. So maybe, yeah, so.
195 00:15:27.680 ⇒ 00:15:32.850 Robert Tseng: It’s like we have 8 weeks to do something that I think would take like a week or 2 weeks to do. It’s great. So.
196 00:15:32.850 ⇒ 00:15:33.250 Hannah Wang: Okay.
197 00:15:33.636 ⇒ 00:15:36.660 Robert Tseng: But anyway, so I think that’s no rush there.
198 00:15:38.360 ⇒ 00:15:45.149 Robert Tseng: yeah, I know that you guys are building a bunch of landing pages and like more like linking links to stuff. And
199 00:15:45.440 ⇒ 00:15:46.625 Robert Tseng: on the website,
200 00:15:48.340 ⇒ 00:15:52.790 Hannah Wang: Those are done by the way, so you can send them out if you need 2.
201 00:15:53.380 ⇒ 00:15:56.700 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay, do you need the links?
202 00:15:57.310 ⇒ 00:15:59.350 Robert Tseng: Is it in one of the channels.
203 00:16:01.630 ⇒ 00:16:03.460 Hannah Wang: Not comprehensively. But
204 00:16:05.660 ⇒ 00:16:11.469 Hannah Wang: no, not all. In one place I’m trying to. Yeah. Let me think of a good place to put
205 00:16:12.890 ⇒ 00:16:17.719 Hannah Wang: everything. Do you want me to add like a notion, Doc, in sales.
206 00:16:20.190 ⇒ 00:16:21.210 Hannah Wang: The pages.
207 00:16:22.910 ⇒ 00:16:24.250 Robert Tseng: Yeah, in the Sales Channel.
208 00:16:25.270 ⇒ 00:16:27.400 Hannah Wang: Or in the sales notion. I don’t know.
209 00:16:27.570 ⇒ 00:16:36.600 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah, you could just put in the sales motion, so I’d rather be the one to.
210 00:16:36.600 ⇒ 00:16:36.940 Hannah Wang: Okay.
211 00:16:36.940 ⇒ 00:16:38.429 Robert Tseng: Somewhere. Yeah.
212 00:16:38.430 ⇒ 00:16:46.350 Hannah Wang: The sales. Okay, let me just start a placeholder message and add landing page.
213 00:16:48.180 ⇒ 00:16:57.040 Hannah Wang: So those are done. Yeah. And there’s like a couple other in progress
214 00:16:57.710 ⇒ 00:17:10.909 Hannah Wang: like ad hockey kind of stuff that I feel like. I kind of passed on to Ann because I feel like I’m not designing as much anymore, because I’m managing the promotion stuff. But she’s working on like a tool comparison
215 00:17:11.089 ⇒ 00:17:17.880 Hannah Wang: diagram. And like a bunch of other small things. So yeah.
216 00:17:18.730 ⇒ 00:17:26.220 Hannah Wang: I don’t know a lot of it feels ad hockey. So Utam’s like, Can you do? You have bandwidth for this, and it’s like, sure. And then she like starts breaking it. So
217 00:17:28.740 ⇒ 00:17:42.419 Hannah Wang: yeah, I don’t, man, I don’t know how you guys like your brain. I don’t know how you’re surviving like it just feels, especially with sales, and talking to all these like stakeholders and stuff, it’s just like, Oh, my gosh! How do you
218 00:17:43.150 ⇒ 00:17:47.970 Hannah Wang: keep track on top of all the client stuff that’s kind of going on.
219 00:17:48.650 ⇒ 00:17:52.130 Robert Tseng: Well, I think the I don’t think Tom does any client stuff right now.
220 00:17:52.130 ⇒ 00:17:56.570 Hannah Wang: Oh, that’s that’s the goal, right? That was the goal. So that’s good.
221 00:17:56.770 ⇒ 00:17:59.386 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I don’t know, like I think
222 00:17:59.960 ⇒ 00:18:03.879 Robert Tseng: Well, I I kind of had him go back to do internal AI stuff
223 00:18:04.610 ⇒ 00:18:10.719 Robert Tseng: as I was like, dude. Can’t. Amber can’t run this team like they haven’t done anything in like 2 weeks. So
224 00:18:11.572 ⇒ 00:18:16.900 Robert Tseng: I actually don’t actually don’t think that he should be spending so much time doing.
225 00:18:17.140 ⇒ 00:18:28.810 Robert Tseng: He’s he likes to talk, but like he, he just likes to. He’ll tell me like, yeah, I think he says this to the team. He’s like, Oh, yeah, I met, I met with this one dude, and like, we ended up talking for 3 h
226 00:18:29.010 ⇒ 00:18:31.829 Robert Tseng: on Friday or whatever, and I was like.
227 00:18:31.830 ⇒ 00:18:32.300 Hannah Wang: Whoa!
228 00:18:33.130 ⇒ 00:18:36.390 Robert Tseng: I don’t think I would ever do that. I’d be like alright, like.
229 00:18:36.390 ⇒ 00:18:54.920 Robert Tseng: Time’s up time to go. I got other things to do, but he just I mean both good and bad. He spent so much time with each person, even if it goes nowhere. But he’s just like so optimistic about everything. And then I guess I’m I’m more like, Are you sure anything is gonna come from this?
230 00:18:56.360 ⇒ 00:18:57.130 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
231 00:18:57.910 ⇒ 00:19:02.539 Robert Tseng: So I would actually prefer that he spends more and do more engineering time like.
232 00:19:03.088 ⇒ 00:19:08.719 Robert Tseng: think like lead- lead. The engineering team, like, I kind of what I think I need. I need him to do.
233 00:19:08.940 ⇒ 00:19:09.650 Robert Tseng: But.
234 00:19:09.650 ⇒ 00:19:15.739 Hannah Wang: Well, he feels like he’s needed in sales right now, because we haven’t had like momentum in that area. Maybe.
235 00:19:16.615 ⇒ 00:19:20.190 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s that’s probably why. So it’s it’s fine. I think.
236 00:19:21.020 ⇒ 00:19:29.220 Robert Tseng: What was working before wasn’t working now. So like, we just have to adjust. Yeah. But it’s okay.
237 00:19:29.470 ⇒ 00:19:35.539 Hannah Wang: Yeah, it’s definitely it. It definitely feels different, like working at a more startup type of
238 00:19:36.330 ⇒ 00:19:47.849 Hannah Wang: org versus like Amazon, where everything was so slow. I was like I love, I love. How slow it is. I can like take my time doing things. But here everything just feels kind of like.
239 00:19:48.410 ⇒ 00:19:53.730 Hannah Wang: just like throwing stuff at the wall and seeing if it sticks. And like.
240 00:19:54.540 ⇒ 00:20:02.680 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I guess I’m just not used to like the fast paced nature of consultancy and agency stuff. So
241 00:20:03.200 ⇒ 00:20:05.290 Hannah Wang: yeah, it’s definitely different.
242 00:20:07.490 ⇒ 00:20:11.630 Hannah Wang: Yeah, my second job, so different than my first.st
243 00:20:13.830 ⇒ 00:20:19.049 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you don’t really like have thing most of the time. You’re not building anything to perfection. So.
244 00:20:19.690 ⇒ 00:20:22.610 Robert Tseng: Yeah, just have to
245 00:20:23.710 ⇒ 00:20:32.716 Robert Tseng: put something. Yeah, you’re doing a lot of proof of concepts. And like, just putting like things out for people to test or to look at. And
246 00:20:33.190 ⇒ 00:20:35.210 Robert Tseng: yeah, it’s a lot more iterative. So.
247 00:20:35.210 ⇒ 00:20:40.790 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah, but it it does. Also, I do get the sense of like, oh, it’s
248 00:20:41.110 ⇒ 00:20:50.560 Hannah Wang: there’s less stakes, in a way, because everything’s new. So if it goes wrong, I’m like, Okay, whatever, I just move on. So I guess that’s nice to learn
249 00:20:50.770 ⇒ 00:20:55.140 Hannah Wang: to be okay with, like, Oh, it’s fine if it doesn’t work out, or whatever.
250 00:20:56.930 ⇒ 00:21:06.209 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, hopefully, after a little more time, you’ll feel like, yeah, you know what I could. I could try anything. I mean, I could launch anything like what? Yeah? So I guess
251 00:21:06.350 ⇒ 00:21:12.930 Robert Tseng: I think that’s the belief that the end up developing, I guess so.
252 00:21:13.220 ⇒ 00:21:18.400 Hannah Wang: I mean, I feel like I already kind of have that with the photo stuff. I’m just like, yeah, Yolo.
253 00:21:18.580 ⇒ 00:21:25.999 Hannah Wang: like it. Just make a website, make my Instagram like shamelessly plug myself on Facebook groups.
254 00:21:27.560 ⇒ 00:21:28.159 Hannah Wang: Chill.
255 00:21:29.630 ⇒ 00:21:30.550 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
256 00:21:31.000 ⇒ 00:21:31.680 Robert Tseng: Nice.
257 00:21:32.660 ⇒ 00:21:33.420 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
258 00:21:34.040 ⇒ 00:21:36.090 Hannah Wang: But when are you leaving for Africa?
259 00:21:36.963 ⇒ 00:21:37.710 Robert Tseng: Next Friday.
260 00:21:38.320 ⇒ 00:21:40.010 Hannah Wang: Oh, dang!
261 00:21:41.530 ⇒ 00:21:43.640 Hannah Wang: That’s soon.
262 00:21:44.070 ⇒ 00:21:47.460 Robert Tseng: I know, but like you’re gonna try.
263 00:21:47.460 ⇒ 00:21:48.470 Hannah Wang: That work.
264 00:21:48.710 ⇒ 00:21:53.479 Robert Tseng: I’m not. Gonna I don’t think I can work in in Africa like I don’t. I wouldn’t trust the Wi-fi there.
265 00:21:53.700 ⇒ 00:21:56.300 Robert Tseng: But then, after that we’re going to Amsterdam.
266 00:21:57.380 ⇒ 00:22:01.920 Robert Tseng: and I will probably be online every every day, for at least for a bit.
267 00:22:01.920 ⇒ 00:22:03.199 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah.
268 00:22:03.200 ⇒ 00:22:11.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah. But yeah, I’ll be away from here for 2 weeks, which is long time. What’s gonna happen?
269 00:22:12.410 ⇒ 00:22:15.650 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Come, say, Hi, I’m kidding.
270 00:22:15.650 ⇒ 00:22:16.660 Hannah Wang: We have.
271 00:22:19.449 ⇒ 00:22:22.449 Robert Tseng: Eating. Granola respectively. Meeting soon.
272 00:22:24.360 ⇒ 00:22:25.930 Hannah Wang: Oh, to work to the office!
273 00:22:26.740 ⇒ 00:22:28.949 Robert Tseng: No, no, it’s not at all. It’s
274 00:22:29.900 ⇒ 00:22:34.049 Robert Tseng: you. Spill the granola. I’ll send you a photo of of her, of her desk.
275 00:22:35.220 ⇒ 00:22:36.669 Hannah Wang: Of her death she got a desk.
276 00:22:36.670 ⇒ 00:22:40.690 Robert Tseng: Really sad right now, Hannah, yeah, yeah.
277 00:22:41.310 ⇒ 00:22:43.500 Robert Tseng: it’s not a desk. It’s a
278 00:22:44.850 ⇒ 00:22:47.899 Robert Tseng: this is this is her work. This is her work set up today.
279 00:22:48.210 ⇒ 00:22:49.690 Robert Tseng: I just texted it to you.
280 00:22:55.200 ⇒ 00:22:56.340 Hannah Wang: Whoa!
281 00:22:58.630 ⇒ 00:22:59.900 Hannah Wang: I mean.
282 00:23:00.925 ⇒ 00:23:04.719 Robert Tseng: She said, oh, so sad!
283 00:23:05.360 ⇒ 00:23:07.600 Hannah Wang: Why not just work on the floor.
284 00:23:08.580 ⇒ 00:23:21.579 Robert Tseng: Because then she turns around and puts the laptop on the bed, and then, like as is her meeting there, and when she’s not in a meeting that she just turns around and like, puts her back on the bed. And like, yeah, so she’s just like still living around on the suitcase.
285 00:23:21.580 ⇒ 00:23:22.320 Hannah Wang: Oh!
286 00:23:22.920 ⇒ 00:23:23.570 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
287 00:23:23.570 ⇒ 00:23:27.605 Hannah Wang: But, like you can just swivel on the floor. Oh, is the bed too high? Is that? Why.
288 00:23:28.440 ⇒ 00:23:30.620 Hannah Wang: let’s see. Hello!
289 00:23:31.580 ⇒ 00:23:33.520 Robert Tseng: Can I hear you? This is, Hello.
290 00:23:33.940 ⇒ 00:23:34.870 Robert Tseng: Okay. Okay.
291 00:23:35.610 ⇒ 00:23:41.070 Robert Tseng: I’m about. To. What time is it? 4 min you got 4 min, bye.
292 00:23:41.320 ⇒ 00:23:46.730 Hannah Wang: Bye, you guys are matching white and white.
293 00:23:49.390 ⇒ 00:23:50.840 Robert Tseng: Been a little stressed.
294 00:23:51.740 ⇒ 00:23:55.729 Hannah Wang: Yeah, cause you’re working. You’re taking on dance work. Right? So.
295 00:23:56.010 ⇒ 00:24:01.200 Robert Tseng: Yeah. And I’m launching my campaign tomorrow. So I don’t even know if I can go to sell tonight.
296 00:24:01.350 ⇒ 00:24:02.579 Robert Tseng: find my new work.
297 00:24:03.170 ⇒ 00:24:04.100 Hannah Wang: For a while
298 00:24:07.280 ⇒ 00:24:12.760 Hannah Wang: join our company. We need, like a marketing person.
299 00:24:13.660 ⇒ 00:24:17.245 Robert Tseng: Robert said, said
300 00:24:19.780 ⇒ 00:24:25.169 Robert Tseng: I would say that when you were doing Congo’s outreach, your response rate was 0%.
301 00:24:27.250 ⇒ 00:24:32.170 Robert Tseng: At least, when I do it. It’s like 20% Hummington
302 00:24:33.490 ⇒ 00:24:34.919 Robert Tseng: more than a joke like that.
303 00:24:35.340 ⇒ 00:24:36.899 Robert Tseng: The rum pulled out of bonnet.
304 00:24:38.590 ⇒ 00:24:44.029 Robert Tseng: did he? I didn’t have like a real conversation with him. Well, there was a response. Okay?
305 00:24:44.660 ⇒ 00:24:45.910 Robert Tseng: Well, anyway.
306 00:24:54.260 ⇒ 00:24:54.980 Hannah Wang: Huh!
307 00:24:57.160 ⇒ 00:24:57.830 Robert Tseng: Hmm!
308 00:24:58.410 ⇒ 00:25:02.380 Robert Tseng: It’s just eating you drinking my milk.
309 00:25:02.570 ⇒ 00:25:07.522 Robert Tseng: No? Oh, how are you, Hannah?
310 00:25:08.970 ⇒ 00:25:09.520 Robert Tseng: And we’re.
311 00:25:09.520 ⇒ 00:25:12.629 Hannah Wang: Bye, yeah, we are.
312 00:25:13.580 ⇒ 00:25:14.250 Robert Tseng: She’s gone.
313 00:25:15.620 ⇒ 00:25:16.450 Robert Tseng: You.
314 00:25:17.910 ⇒ 00:25:18.929 Hannah Wang: As you say.
315 00:25:19.150 ⇒ 00:25:26.800 Hannah Wang: Oh, I this yeah, stress.
316 00:25:26.900 ⇒ 00:25:35.020 Hannah Wang: No, I’m so Eric and I are going to Zion next Friday. Well, we have a wedding next Friday that Eric’s a part of.
317 00:25:35.310 ⇒ 00:25:53.750 Hannah Wang: and then we’re going to drive to Zion after the wedding and then come back Monday. So we planned that. And we’re like, Okay, we’re chilling. That’s like our travel for the next couple of months. But then the the couple that’s getting married on Friday the husband is stationed in Louisiana because he’s in the military.
318 00:25:53.990 ⇒ 00:26:02.310 Hannah Wang: So they have to drive the wife stuff to Louisiana. So we’re like, Oh, you want to help.
319 00:26:02.490 ⇒ 00:26:04.940 Hannah Wang: So we’re going on like a road trip
320 00:26:05.630 ⇒ 00:26:11.510 Hannah Wang: the the day after we come back from Zion more driving until Friday.
321 00:26:11.740 ⇒ 00:26:17.199 Hannah Wang: and then we’re gonna fly back from Houston to La after we drive the rental car
322 00:26:17.850 ⇒ 00:26:24.780 Hannah Wang: with their stuff in it, and then the next day I have a wedding to shoot, because I like
323 00:26:25.150 ⇒ 00:26:35.839 Hannah Wang: reached out to someone on Facebook group who was looking for a second shooter. I was like, Hi, I’ll help. I knew I suck, but like I’ll do it for cheaper. And she was like, Oh, I actually like your work.
324 00:26:36.390 ⇒ 00:26:44.199 Hannah Wang: But I don’t know if it’s like a scam, because she hasn’t like texted me back in a while, but the wedding is far off, so.
325 00:26:44.530 ⇒ 00:26:45.110 Robert Tseng: Where’s the one?
326 00:26:45.110 ⇒ 00:26:45.660 Hannah Wang: Again.
327 00:26:46.100 ⇒ 00:26:48.310 Hannah Wang: It’s in Downey, Downey, California.
328 00:26:48.310 ⇒ 00:26:48.750 Robert Tseng: Alright!
329 00:26:48.750 ⇒ 00:26:50.670 Hannah Wang: It’s near like Cerritos Belfare.
330 00:26:50.850 ⇒ 00:26:52.210 Robert Tseng: That’s not too bad.
331 00:26:52.500 ⇒ 00:26:53.650 Hannah Wang: I know, but like.
332 00:26:53.650 ⇒ 00:26:56.969 Robert Tseng: Okay. So if it’s, it is a scam. You can just leave.
333 00:26:57.890 ⇒ 00:27:02.079 Hannah Wang: True. Yeah, like a boba, or drink in the come back to la, come back.
334 00:27:03.238 ⇒ 00:27:04.880 Robert Tseng: I’m sure it’s not. But.
335 00:27:04.880 ⇒ 00:27:05.470 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
336 00:27:05.470 ⇒ 00:27:06.740 Robert Tseng: Emphasiding.
337 00:27:07.950 ⇒ 00:27:13.260 Hannah Wang: Yeah, but I’m like, how am I gonna work like on the road?
338 00:27:13.840 ⇒ 00:27:16.829 Hannah Wang: And then Robert was like, just don’t work
339 00:27:16.930 ⇒ 00:27:19.180 Hannah Wang: on the road. I was like, Okay.
340 00:27:20.882 ⇒ 00:27:24.190 Robert Tseng: Don’t take your meeting, or do anything.
341 00:27:24.430 ⇒ 00:27:27.230 Hannah Wang: Yeah. But like, I can’t, really, I feel like
342 00:27:27.400 ⇒ 00:27:34.500 Hannah Wang: cause during the times that we’re not driving, like we’d want to spend time with a couple so I can’t get in like 20 h.
343 00:27:38.260 ⇒ 00:27:41.450 Hannah Wang: Is that fine? I don’t know. I don’t know what my like
344 00:27:42.150 ⇒ 00:27:45.219 Hannah Wang: like quota thing like I don’t know.
345 00:27:45.450 ⇒ 00:27:54.499 Robert Tseng: Well, as long as like the perception that, like we don’t. I mean, if we all of a sudden like stop being able to do stuff, because I mean, I think that’s when
346 00:27:54.610 ⇒ 00:27:56.860 Robert Tseng: it’d be a problem. But if you feel like you can just
347 00:27:57.100 ⇒ 00:28:01.550 Robert Tseng: manage what you have going on without like taking on more like I think it’s fine.
348 00:28:02.020 ⇒ 00:28:02.700 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
349 00:28:03.030 ⇒ 00:28:06.479 Robert Tseng: Yeah, we buy that time.
350 00:28:06.480 ⇒ 00:28:06.900 Hannah Wang: I.
351 00:28:06.900 ⇒ 00:28:08.270 Robert Tseng: The
352 00:28:08.460 ⇒ 00:28:19.300 Robert Tseng: oh, yeah, I mean, like the events thing is probably the most important. I think, like, obviously, some of the design. I mean, there’s ad hoc stuff that comes in like I think it’ll be you’ll be able to. I feel like you should be able to manage it.
353 00:28:21.560 ⇒ 00:28:22.360 Hannah Wang: We’ll see.
354 00:28:24.040 ⇒ 00:28:28.749 Hannah Wang: Yeah, but wait. So is Akash, not here anymore.
355 00:28:29.540 ⇒ 00:28:30.150 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
356 00:28:31.770 ⇒ 00:28:34.600 Hannah Wang: But he couldn’t like oh.
357 00:28:35.800 ⇒ 00:28:43.589 Robert Tseng: Yeah, he was just like, you know what I talked to my wife. And she’s like, you guys, you should join. You should stay with a more stable company
358 00:28:44.250 ⇒ 00:28:45.899 Robert Tseng: I was like. That’s fair.
359 00:28:45.900 ⇒ 00:28:49.700 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Oh, okay.
360 00:28:50.980 ⇒ 00:28:54.419 Robert Tseng: We were like, okay, but like.
361 00:28:55.530 ⇒ 00:29:00.720 Robert Tseng: be open. But yeah, whatever we’re trying to told them to be open to.
362 00:29:01.340 ⇒ 00:29:04.706 Robert Tseng: Yeah, check back in like 3 months or whatever.
363 00:29:06.200 ⇒ 00:29:11.079 Robert Tseng: yeah, he’s just gonna stay put at his company. So so he’s not going anywhere.
364 00:29:11.700 ⇒ 00:29:14.529 Hannah Wang: Check back in after we have, like.
365 00:29:15.450 ⇒ 00:29:27.500 Robert Tseng: Yeah, health insurance. And then, like, yeah, I mean, I think he probably got spooked on the revenue thing because I mean, when he joined. We’re he. Probably he saw a shrink over a month, you know, so like
366 00:29:27.710 ⇒ 00:29:29.900 Robert Tseng: he probably got spooked to bed, and
367 00:29:30.370 ⇒ 00:29:33.360 Robert Tseng: well, I don’t know. Let’s just to us like.
368 00:29:33.920 ⇒ 00:29:40.629 Robert Tseng: I know there’s month to month volatility, I think. I I that’s why I measure the business more like quarter to quarter. But.
369 00:29:42.450 ⇒ 00:29:43.050 Hannah Wang: I see.
370 00:29:43.830 ⇒ 00:29:49.689 Robert Tseng: But I get it. He has a newborn like. I don’t think I could run this business. If I have a newborn it’d be pretty rough. So
371 00:29:51.260 ⇒ 00:29:52.030 Robert Tseng: so.
372 00:29:52.610 ⇒ 00:29:56.870 Robert Tseng: But yeah, yeah, because I wish I wish he was here. Yeah.
373 00:29:57.130 ⇒ 00:29:57.870 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
374 00:29:59.080 ⇒ 00:30:00.659 Hannah Wang: Hmm, let me see.
375 00:30:01.160 ⇒ 00:30:06.474 Hannah Wang: Yeah, all these people come and then they disappear. And I’m like, Oh, okay, they’re just gone now.
376 00:30:12.630 ⇒ 00:30:13.380 Hannah Wang: Okay?
377 00:30:14.520 ⇒ 00:30:15.460 Hannah Wang: Well.
378 00:30:16.190 ⇒ 00:30:24.300 Hannah Wang: yeah, I don’t know. The last thing is like, Oh, yeah, if I start to take on like even more stuff, I feel like I’ll need to start working
379 00:30:25.720 ⇒ 00:30:29.530 Hannah Wang: more than part part time. Not that. Yeah.
380 00:30:30.160 ⇒ 00:30:33.232 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I mean, if you want to, you should like.
381 00:30:33.540 ⇒ 00:30:34.390 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
382 00:30:34.390 ⇒ 00:30:35.000 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
383 00:30:35.160 ⇒ 00:30:35.680 Hannah Wang: We’ll see.
384 00:30:35.680 ⇒ 00:30:36.290 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
385 00:30:38.860 ⇒ 00:30:47.629 Hannah Wang: Yeah, cause I like kind of paused the upwork stuff because he has a lot of legal hoops to jump through. So he’s gonna like, pause it indefinitely.
386 00:30:48.840 ⇒ 00:30:53.220 Hannah Wang: So, anyway.
387 00:30:54.000 ⇒ 00:31:01.540 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if you want to take on more and like work more and make more like we should. I don’t know.
388 00:31:04.990 ⇒ 00:31:12.600 Hannah Wang: We’ll see the only motivation for me to do that is so we can buy a house. But let me talk to Eric about where we are on that first.st
389 00:31:13.990 ⇒ 00:31:18.149 Robert Tseng: Yeah, if not, then it’s fine, like, I think what you’re doing right now is great.
390 00:31:18.150 ⇒ 00:31:25.309 Hannah Wang: Yeah. And if I want to start doing more photo stuff, I don’t think I can do full time here, but but we’ll see. I don’t know.
391 00:31:25.410 ⇒ 00:31:28.920 Hannah Wang: So, okay.
392 00:31:29.130 ⇒ 00:31:31.609 Robert Tseng: We’re talking to Luke cats like friend.
393 00:31:31.970 ⇒ 00:31:36.190 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah. Yeah. I saw his pitch
394 00:31:36.320 ⇒ 00:31:39.370 Hannah Wang: his like deck, or Uton, forwarded me, an email
395 00:31:39.910 ⇒ 00:31:51.079 Hannah Wang: like, proposal and stuff, I was like all these words I like don’t really know. So it kinda went over my head. But it’s cool if you can come on. But it’d be like a temporary
396 00:31:51.420 ⇒ 00:31:52.300 Hannah Wang: thing right.
397 00:31:52.300 ⇒ 00:31:57.750 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’d be temp. It’d be part time. It’s kind of like, well, you don’t want to do content. So I guess.
398 00:31:58.710 ⇒ 00:32:02.379 Robert Tseng: Get get like a counterpart that can do. Do that side.
399 00:32:03.110 ⇒ 00:32:09.480 Hannah Wang: I saw like on his timeline. It’s like, Oh, just for month, like month 4.
400 00:32:10.300 ⇒ 00:32:14.270 Hannah Wang: It sounded more like a consultant type of thing.
401 00:32:14.550 ⇒ 00:32:17.470 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, that’s what fun hang on. Oh, okay.
402 00:32:18.600 ⇒ 00:32:19.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
403 00:32:20.210 ⇒ 00:32:26.020 Hannah Wang: That’d be interesting. You can add him to the the prayers.
404 00:32:26.020 ⇒ 00:32:27.849 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that would. That would be cool.
405 00:32:27.850 ⇒ 00:32:30.240 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah.
406 00:32:30.740 ⇒ 00:32:39.865 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So I mean, yeah, without- without a caution, like we have, we have some more flexibility of budget to like make other part time investments, I guess. So.
407 00:32:40.180 ⇒ 00:32:44.462 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that’d be helpful.
408 00:32:44.950 ⇒ 00:32:51.159 Hannah Wang: to kind of like bridge that gap between sales. And like all the pipeline and
409 00:32:51.270 ⇒ 00:32:56.059 Hannah Wang: all the sale lingo that you throw out and marketing, I guess. Yeah.
410 00:32:56.190 ⇒ 00:33:04.520 Robert Tseng: Like, and sent me something to review last week. And I was like dude. I like it’s gonna take me like 2 h to like change the content on this thing like.
411 00:33:04.760 ⇒ 00:33:06.340 Robert Tseng: Oh, the sow stuff!
412 00:33:07.990 ⇒ 00:33:10.610 Robert Tseng: I do not have time to look at this so.
413 00:33:10.610 ⇒ 00:33:11.100 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah.
414 00:33:11.100 ⇒ 00:33:14.709 Robert Tseng: I mean, I just I don’t want to. I’d rather someone else do it.
415 00:33:14.890 ⇒ 00:33:15.260 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
416 00:33:15.650 ⇒ 00:33:16.330 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
417 00:33:16.680 ⇒ 00:33:20.700 Robert Tseng: But anyway, okay, I’m I’m a go.
418 00:33:22.220 ⇒ 00:33:23.200 Hannah Wang: Hi! Mine!