Meeting Title: Zoom Meeting Date: 2025-05-06 Meeting participants: Robert Tseng, Hannah Wang
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1 00:00:58.970 ⇒ 00:01:00.380 Hannah Wang: Hello!
2 00:01:17.630 ⇒ 00:01:19.489 Hannah Wang: I don’t think I can hear you.
3 00:01:19.730 ⇒ 00:01:20.650 Robert Tseng: Follow.
4 00:01:20.650 ⇒ 00:01:22.097 Hannah Wang: I’m just kidding. Hello!
5 00:01:22.460 ⇒ 00:01:24.110 Robert Tseng: Don’t think I was saying anything.
6 00:01:24.110 ⇒ 00:01:24.620 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
7 00:01:28.000 ⇒ 00:01:30.080 Hannah Wang: Oh, peace!
8 00:01:30.540 ⇒ 00:01:36.998 Hannah Wang: I am so snotty, for no reason.
9 00:01:38.390 ⇒ 00:01:39.370 Robert Tseng: Allergy.
10 00:01:40.960 ⇒ 00:01:45.270 Hannah Wang: I usually don’t get allergies. So this is very weird for me.
11 00:01:45.270 ⇒ 00:01:45.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
12 00:01:50.510 ⇒ 00:01:52.360 Hannah Wang: Oh, I’m so humbled.
13 00:01:53.510 ⇒ 00:01:54.240 Robert Tseng: Oh.
14 00:01:57.800 ⇒ 00:02:00.640 Robert Tseng: I haven’t been drinking enough water so hydrated.
15 00:02:03.340 ⇒ 00:02:04.340 Robert Tseng: Oh.
16 00:02:12.150 ⇒ 00:02:14.190 Robert Tseng: I’m gonna eat one of these bars.
17 00:02:19.520 ⇒ 00:02:20.679 Hannah Wang: How’s it going.
18 00:02:25.100 ⇒ 00:02:30.820 Robert Tseng: Pretty checked out today. At this point, I’m gonna go climb.
19 00:02:32.410 ⇒ 00:02:34.509 Hannah Wang: Yeah, it’s 4. 30 makes sense.
20 00:02:34.680 ⇒ 00:02:35.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
21 00:02:44.900 ⇒ 00:02:46.510 Hannah Wang: Is Rachel at the office.
22 00:02:47.510 ⇒ 00:02:48.500 Hannah Wang: Oh, let’s see.
23 00:02:55.600 ⇒ 00:02:56.270 Robert Tseng: Hmm!
24 00:03:02.440 ⇒ 00:03:04.539 Robert Tseng: Gabe is staying with us for the week.
25 00:03:06.010 ⇒ 00:03:09.119 Hannah Wang: Is he going back like he didn’t get a visa right.
26 00:03:09.120 ⇒ 00:03:09.740 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
27 00:03:09.990 ⇒ 00:03:10.760 Hannah Wang: Oh, nice!
28 00:03:10.760 ⇒ 00:03:14.330 Robert Tseng: I don’t know, he ended his lease. He’s kind of hopping around
29 00:03:14.440 ⇒ 00:03:16.960 Robert Tseng: happy both places for a bit longer. And then.
30 00:03:20.120 ⇒ 00:03:20.880 Robert Tseng: yeah.
31 00:03:24.110 ⇒ 00:03:30.530 Robert Tseng: he’s kind of evaluating within his company whether or not they can transfer him to Canada or the Uk.
32 00:03:31.760 ⇒ 00:03:32.409 Hannah Wang: Oh, wow!
33 00:03:32.410 ⇒ 00:03:38.499 Robert Tseng: That’s why he’s still around New York. But if they say no, then he’ll have to quit his job.
34 00:03:38.750 ⇒ 00:03:41.990 Hannah Wang: Oh, and Lee, he’s from Hong Kong right.
35 00:03:42.190 ⇒ 00:03:44.840 Robert Tseng: Yeah, and then and then probably move back to Hong Kong.
36 00:03:44.840 ⇒ 00:03:45.910 Hannah Wang: Good!
37 00:03:47.030 ⇒ 00:03:48.279 Hannah Wang: Oh, my goodness.
38 00:03:48.750 ⇒ 00:03:50.180 Robert Tseng: I don’t know. Kind of sad.
39 00:03:50.400 ⇒ 00:03:51.150 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
40 00:03:51.150 ⇒ 00:03:53.689 Robert Tseng: They like, threw off their engagement, timeline and everything but.
41 00:03:53.690 ⇒ 00:03:55.140 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah.
42 00:03:55.630 ⇒ 00:03:56.570 Robert Tseng: I’m just like
43 00:03:57.120 ⇒ 00:04:02.489 Robert Tseng: I mean, I don’t envy to be a decision, but I’m like Dude. I guess. God, this is not letting you
44 00:04:03.490 ⇒ 00:04:07.499 Robert Tseng: get engaged with certain certainty.
45 00:04:08.550 ⇒ 00:04:10.059 Robert Tseng: Of where you’ll be, which
46 00:04:10.370 ⇒ 00:04:14.769 Robert Tseng: then, again, no one really has certainty. So I don’t know. Maybe that’s just something he has to give up.
47 00:04:16.100 ⇒ 00:04:18.519 Hannah Wang: Is. Cherry’s on a visa, too. Right.
48 00:04:19.220 ⇒ 00:04:21.810 Robert Tseng: She did get the.
49 00:04:23.920 ⇒ 00:04:25.759 Robert Tseng: She’s on traffic at her green card.
50 00:04:25.760 ⇒ 00:04:26.940 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
51 00:04:26.940 ⇒ 00:04:27.510 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
52 00:04:28.050 ⇒ 00:04:29.230 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
53 00:04:29.230 ⇒ 00:04:30.630 Robert Tseng: So she doesn’t want to leave.
54 00:04:30.770 ⇒ 00:04:32.560 Robert Tseng: because if she leaves and she has to give it up.
55 00:04:32.990 ⇒ 00:04:34.980 Hannah Wang: Oh, dude, that’s so hard!
56 00:04:35.410 ⇒ 00:04:36.989 Hannah Wang: What do you do at that point?
57 00:04:37.880 ⇒ 00:04:38.530 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
58 00:04:38.530 ⇒ 00:04:40.110 Hannah Wang: Long, distance, for like how.
59 00:04:40.110 ⇒ 00:04:42.579 Robert Tseng: Yeah. But then they also don’t want to do long distance anymore.
60 00:04:42.720 ⇒ 00:04:43.530 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
61 00:04:44.310 ⇒ 00:04:46.460 Hannah Wang: But then, if they get married.
62 00:04:47.470 ⇒ 00:04:49.630 Hannah Wang: is there anything that will change.
63 00:04:50.330 ⇒ 00:04:54.149 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So if they get married.
64 00:04:59.390 ⇒ 00:05:02.599 Robert Tseng: I don’t exactly know the details, but there is a there is a
65 00:05:03.050 ⇒ 00:05:07.070 Robert Tseng: a possibility of them getting married, and he gets an extension.
66 00:05:09.280 ⇒ 00:05:15.269 Robert Tseng: Because she’s already been approved. And she’s in the green. There’s like some weird thing. There’s something that they have to get.
67 00:05:15.760 ⇒ 00:05:20.549 Robert Tseng: maybe like a yes, I don’t know. They get approval or something, but it seems like that is a
68 00:05:20.860 ⇒ 00:05:22.600 Robert Tseng: that that is possible.
69 00:05:24.860 ⇒ 00:05:26.757 Hannah Wang: Married, get married.
70 00:05:27.390 ⇒ 00:05:29.939 Robert Tseng: Yeah, she’s like, get married. Now. Bro.
71 00:05:29.940 ⇒ 00:05:35.060 Hannah Wang: Yeah, or just get legally married right now and then.
72 00:05:35.690 ⇒ 00:05:38.629 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, they’ve been dating for a long time. So.
73 00:05:38.630 ⇒ 00:05:39.660 Robert Tseng: Yeah. Long. Time.
74 00:05:40.050 ⇒ 00:05:41.830 Hannah Wang: Like 5 years, or something.
75 00:05:42.150 ⇒ 00:05:42.760 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
76 00:05:45.420 ⇒ 00:05:48.860 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Get married. Oh, that’s hard, though.
77 00:05:50.060 ⇒ 00:05:51.710 Hannah Wang: Very long distance.
78 00:05:52.090 ⇒ 00:05:52.660 Robert Tseng: No.
79 00:05:56.790 ⇒ 00:05:58.359 Hannah Wang: How long have you been there?
80 00:05:58.360 ⇒ 00:06:00.810 Robert Tseng: Huh! Or he just came last night.
81 00:06:00.980 ⇒ 00:06:02.059 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
82 00:06:03.820 ⇒ 00:06:07.400 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I might just like skip small group and hang out with him tonight. But.
83 00:06:07.400 ⇒ 00:06:07.960 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
84 00:06:07.960 ⇒ 00:06:08.500 Robert Tseng: Okay.
85 00:06:09.210 ⇒ 00:06:10.130 Hannah Wang: I see.
86 00:06:16.160 ⇒ 00:06:17.050 Hannah Wang: Wait!
87 00:06:17.160 ⇒ 00:06:23.900 Hannah Wang: I don’t wanna talk about work stuff, but can you make it to the meeting tomorrow, or whenever I scheduled it?
88 00:06:26.840 ⇒ 00:06:27.440 Hannah Wang: What’s the.
89 00:06:27.440 ⇒ 00:06:29.270 Robert Tseng: Want to talk about. What’s that.
90 00:06:30.500 ⇒ 00:06:37.139 Hannah Wang: Okay, I’m also checked out. It’s only 1 30. But on Thursday, at.
91 00:06:37.140 ⇒ 00:06:38.449 Robert Tseng: Put it on Thursday.
92 00:06:38.450 ⇒ 00:06:41.729 Hannah Wang: Your 5 30. I know it’s kind of late, but
93 00:06:41.850 ⇒ 00:06:45.590 Hannah Wang: that’s like the mapping out all the promotion stuff.
94 00:06:47.270 ⇒ 00:06:49.259 Robert Tseng: Oof, yeah, I’ll do it.
95 00:06:50.460 ⇒ 00:06:51.590 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.
96 00:06:52.130 ⇒ 00:06:55.680 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I’ll just.
97 00:07:01.600 ⇒ 00:07:08.370 Robert Tseng: I’ll I’ll shift shift things back. I don’t think I’ll do anything from like 12 to 12 to one or 12 to 2. Then.
98 00:07:08.720 ⇒ 00:07:12.389 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, I would have done it earlier, but Utam.
99 00:07:13.050 ⇒ 00:07:17.300 Robert Tseng: That’s fine. He’s the one that like fills the schedule. I’m not okay. I cannot.
100 00:07:17.830 ⇒ 00:07:18.570 Hannah Wang: Okay?
101 00:07:19.930 ⇒ 00:07:25.180 Hannah Wang: Well, his, the earliest I could get him on the call was that time so scheduled it for them.
102 00:07:26.350 ⇒ 00:07:29.429 Robert Tseng: He literally talks to like 3
103 00:07:30.170 ⇒ 00:07:32.839 Robert Tseng: people a day like in person or.
104 00:07:32.840 ⇒ 00:07:37.322 Hannah Wang: Oh, oh, I can’t! I can’t! I cannot do that!
105 00:07:37.730 ⇒ 00:07:38.430 Robert Tseng: No.
106 00:07:48.930 ⇒ 00:07:53.039 Hannah Wang: I feel like Rachel like always Rachel and Eric
107 00:07:53.400 ⇒ 00:07:54.989 Hannah Wang: going like this all the time.
108 00:07:55.740 ⇒ 00:07:56.490 Robert Tseng: Okay.
109 00:07:56.490 ⇒ 00:07:58.979 Hannah Wang: Be all day yesterday, all day today.
110 00:07:59.970 ⇒ 00:08:00.979 Robert Tseng: We have pollen.
111 00:08:02.460 ⇒ 00:08:19.669 Hannah Wang: It’s either allergies which I’m like. I guess I’ve in my adulthood now formed, or I’m getting sick. I don’t know which one it is, but I feel fine, so might be allergies. But what to what? I’ve been immune to pollen for like
112 00:08:19.920 ⇒ 00:08:26.330 Hannah Wang: 27 years? Why am I all of a sudden allergic to spring.
113 00:08:26.600 ⇒ 00:08:28.609 Robert Tseng: Becoming more like your spouse.
114 00:08:28.610 ⇒ 00:08:29.770 Hannah Wang: I know.
115 00:08:29.770 ⇒ 00:08:30.520 Robert Tseng: So you.
116 00:08:30.520 ⇒ 00:08:34.370 Hannah Wang: She became more like me, though it’s the other way.
117 00:08:35.120 ⇒ 00:08:35.710 Robert Tseng: Wow!
118 00:08:36.470 ⇒ 00:08:37.480 Robert Tseng: That’s funny.
119 00:08:37.760 ⇒ 00:08:40.699 Robert Tseng: But also I’m sorry. Uncomfortable.
120 00:08:40.850 ⇒ 00:08:45.599 Hannah Wang: It’s okay, though, worse things can can be happening.
121 00:08:46.100 ⇒ 00:08:49.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah, how’s how’s life?
122 00:08:53.360 ⇒ 00:08:56.559 Hannah Wang: Okay. I dropped off Eric’s parents today.
123 00:08:58.820 ⇒ 00:09:04.930 Hannah Wang: They’ve been here for like 10 days or so, and then, yeah.
124 00:09:04.930 ⇒ 00:09:05.880 Robert Tseng: On anything.
125 00:09:06.560 ⇒ 00:09:11.930 Hannah Wang: They try to fix our aunt problem. They
126 00:09:12.430 ⇒ 00:09:16.120 Hannah Wang: it’s better, but it’s cause they like shoved
127 00:09:17.150 ⇒ 00:09:26.409 Hannah Wang: vinegar, soaked tissue in the cracks of where the vent is cause they hate vinegar. So I think that’s like fixing it.
128 00:09:26.740 ⇒ 00:09:27.115 Robert Tseng: Hmm.
129 00:09:27.948 ⇒ 00:09:31.160 Hannah Wang: And then they like fix the screen
130 00:09:31.710 ⇒ 00:09:37.919 Hannah Wang: on in our bathroom window window thing. They hung out some art in the guest bathroom.
131 00:09:41.000 ⇒ 00:09:46.160 Hannah Wang: Not as much this time. I think. This time is our like vacation kind of thing.
132 00:09:46.160 ⇒ 00:09:46.780 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
133 00:09:47.110 ⇒ 00:09:47.830 Hannah Wang: Before he.
134 00:09:47.830 ⇒ 00:09:49.160 Robert Tseng: Hang out with them a lot.
135 00:09:50.110 ⇒ 00:09:54.860 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I’ll most most evenings. We like eat dinner together and just chill
136 00:09:59.370 ⇒ 00:10:11.839 Hannah Wang: But yeah, I mean, I feel comfortable around them, which is good. I think the harder part is my family like, yeah, witnessing to them and stuff like that. It’s like hard.
137 00:10:14.240 ⇒ 00:10:17.229 Hannah Wang: But yeah, I feel like, so out of like
138 00:10:18.290 ⇒ 00:10:29.210 Hannah Wang: this. Whole year I’ve been feeling like, very out of my rhythm, which I’m learning to be okay with. So I think that’s what God’s teaching me.
139 00:10:32.830 ⇒ 00:10:34.649 Hannah Wang: Yeah, other than that.
140 00:10:35.140 ⇒ 00:10:38.210 Hannah Wang: I have like no motivation to do my upwork stuff.
141 00:10:38.570 ⇒ 00:11:06.229 Hannah Wang: and I have slightly more motivation to do my photography stuff. So I’ve been like Facebook groups, and just like second shooter, like groups and stuff like that. So I actually got like, someone messaged me back because I was like, Oh, I can second shoot for you. I’m a new beginner, but I can help. And they’re like, Oh, I actually really like your work. So she’s like, I’m going to shoot a wedding on the 31st in Downey, which is cool.
142 00:11:06.230 ⇒ 00:11:07.210 Robert Tseng: Whoa!
143 00:11:07.210 ⇒ 00:11:08.820 Hannah Wang: Yeah, it was like.
144 00:11:09.440 ⇒ 00:11:15.919 Hannah Wang: I was like feeling so discouraged. And then, like Eric, prays for photo stuff. And then the next day.
145 00:11:16.438 ⇒ 00:11:18.589 Hannah Wang: she reached out to me so
146 00:11:18.700 ⇒ 00:11:22.469 Hannah Wang: pretty excited for that. I’m like making my website, too.
147 00:11:23.165 ⇒ 00:11:27.890 Hannah Wang: My photography website on a platform called Show it, which is.
148 00:11:28.450 ⇒ 00:11:32.160 Hannah Wang: you know the Instagram reel that Amber sent about the planks.
149 00:11:32.950 ⇒ 00:11:34.429 Hannah Wang: Oh, it was that company.
150 00:11:34.650 ⇒ 00:11:35.360 Robert Tseng: Oh!
151 00:11:35.360 ⇒ 00:11:46.299 Hannah Wang: Site Building Company. And I actually really like it. It’s a lot easier than webflow, but more customizable than squarespace or other websites like that. So
152 00:11:46.980 ⇒ 00:11:54.339 Hannah Wang: been making my website trying to do brain forge stuff hanging in there.
153 00:11:54.940 ⇒ 00:11:55.850 Robert Tseng: Nice.
154 00:11:55.850 ⇒ 00:11:56.780 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
155 00:11:57.970 ⇒ 00:11:58.900 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
156 00:11:59.520 ⇒ 00:12:04.669 Hannah Wang: But of course, like here and there, I spiral, as you can tell by my quiet times.
157 00:12:05.231 ⇒ 00:12:07.339 Robert Tseng: At least you have quiet times.
158 00:12:07.340 ⇒ 00:12:10.279 Hannah Wang: I know. Yeah, I I guess that’s good.
159 00:12:10.390 ⇒ 00:12:14.370 Hannah Wang: But yeah.
160 00:12:16.490 ⇒ 00:12:18.380 Robert Tseng: Yeah, my, my quiet times are
161 00:12:18.670 ⇒ 00:12:21.929 Robert Tseng: kind of up and down as well. So it’s all makes sense.
162 00:12:22.930 ⇒ 00:12:29.930 Hannah Wang: But it’s like not the quiet time that in my heyday of ministry
163 00:12:30.070 ⇒ 00:12:35.970 Hannah Wang: college days it’s like 1 h, quiet times, like no way like 20 min to 15 min.
164 00:12:36.260 ⇒ 00:12:37.000 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
165 00:12:37.650 ⇒ 00:12:40.019 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like 2 verses at a time.
166 00:12:40.970 ⇒ 00:12:48.349 Robert Tseng: Yeah, sometimes it’s I mean, hopefully, sometimes you get to do longer ones, but sometimes that I’ll just
167 00:12:49.190 ⇒ 00:12:52.250 Robert Tseng: a timely word will get you. Get you far.
168 00:12:52.250 ⇒ 00:12:53.070 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
169 00:12:54.250 ⇒ 00:13:00.610 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, chilling or not chilling, but existing.
170 00:13:00.770 ⇒ 00:13:01.350 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
171 00:13:01.350 ⇒ 00:13:02.170 Hannah Wang: Driving.
172 00:13:02.630 ⇒ 00:13:03.460 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
173 00:13:05.540 ⇒ 00:13:06.540 Hannah Wang: How about you?
174 00:13:07.490 ⇒ 00:13:10.579 Hannah Wang: Did you support Rachel with the sign.
175 00:13:10.580 ⇒ 00:13:11.489 Robert Tseng: No, I didn’t.
176 00:13:11.490 ⇒ 00:13:12.330 Hannah Wang: Oh!
177 00:13:12.330 ⇒ 00:13:13.390 Robert Tseng: Wish you had a fight.
178 00:13:13.840 ⇒ 00:13:14.700 Hannah Wang: Oh!
179 00:13:14.700 ⇒ 00:13:16.683 Robert Tseng: On the on race day.
180 00:13:17.080 ⇒ 00:13:17.850 Hannah Wang: Oh!
181 00:13:20.590 ⇒ 00:13:23.910 Robert Tseng: She wanted me to like. Make her a matcha
182 00:13:24.760 ⇒ 00:13:30.730 Robert Tseng: and show up at the finish line with it, but I just wanted to meet her at church.
183 00:13:32.330 ⇒ 00:13:33.060 Robert Tseng: Oh.
184 00:13:33.690 ⇒ 00:13:35.590 Hannah Wang: Oh, cause it was a Sunday, right.
185 00:13:35.590 ⇒ 00:13:41.959 Robert Tseng: Yeah, I wanted to just have my own Sabbath because we didn’t really Sabbath. On Saturday I sold the car. We.
186 00:13:42.190 ⇒ 00:13:42.510 Hannah Wang: So!
187 00:13:43.470 ⇒ 00:13:45.390 Hannah Wang: Oh, oh, dang.
188 00:13:45.390 ⇒ 00:13:50.150 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So I was feeling pretty burnt and like felt like I was really
189 00:13:50.360 ⇒ 00:13:54.059 Robert Tseng: desperate, for, like some my own time and.
190 00:13:54.060 ⇒ 00:13:54.710 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
191 00:13:56.120 ⇒ 00:13:57.240 Robert Tseng: Like. I
192 00:13:57.340 ⇒ 00:14:02.370 Robert Tseng: still tried to wake up early to make her breakfast and send her off, but then I didn’t.
193 00:14:03.240 ⇒ 00:14:14.689 Robert Tseng: She asked for that, and then I was not happy because I was like, just take what I’ve offered like. Don’t ask me to do more. And then she wasn’t happy with that response.
194 00:14:15.320 ⇒ 00:14:15.990 Robert Tseng: yeah.
195 00:14:15.990 ⇒ 00:14:16.780 Hannah Wang: Let’s see.
196 00:14:17.880 ⇒ 00:14:26.430 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it was not a great start to Sunday, but then we were able to talk, talk it out, and then it was better 1st year, so I still ended up having a good
197 00:14:27.150 ⇒ 00:14:34.420 Robert Tseng: few hours Sunday to recharge a bit, and then I had a good day yesterday. Today have.
198 00:14:34.600 ⇒ 00:14:36.269 Robert Tseng: It’s wearing on me a bit.
199 00:14:38.390 ⇒ 00:14:40.423 Robert Tseng: But that’s how it goes.
200 00:14:40.830 ⇒ 00:14:41.490 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
201 00:14:42.340 ⇒ 00:14:43.020 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
202 00:14:43.020 ⇒ 00:14:43.490 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
203 00:14:43.490 ⇒ 00:14:44.409 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s always.
204 00:14:44.720 ⇒ 00:14:47.140 Hannah Wang: From the last school.
205 00:14:47.820 ⇒ 00:14:56.949 Robert Tseng: No, I haven’t heard back from 2 schools. Still. So I’m assuming they’re both nose. So yeah, I think that’s been waiting on me a bit like
206 00:14:57.840 ⇒ 00:15:03.240 Robert Tseng: I’m I’m gonna request another letter of recommendation
207 00:15:03.580 ⇒ 00:15:07.470 Robert Tseng: from like the organization I volunteer with here.
208 00:15:07.720 ⇒ 00:15:11.689 Robert Tseng: They said they write it for me. So I’m gonna try to send it over. But
209 00:15:12.640 ⇒ 00:15:20.470 Robert Tseng: yeah, I’m I’m still waiting and just being like God, like, just please open doors.
210 00:15:20.470 ⇒ 00:15:20.880 Hannah Wang: Yes.
211 00:15:22.980 ⇒ 00:15:24.970 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah.
212 00:15:28.930 ⇒ 00:15:31.543 Robert Tseng: cause yeah, I mean, I I don’t know.
213 00:15:32.940 ⇒ 00:15:37.370 Robert Tseng: Just otherwise. I feel like I’ll just keep doing what I’m doing.
214 00:15:37.510 ⇒ 00:15:41.790 Robert Tseng: There isn’t really like a clear exit. So yeah.
215 00:15:45.060 ⇒ 00:15:50.760 Hannah Wang: But what you’re doing now is is good, right?
216 00:15:51.370 ⇒ 00:15:56.380 Hannah Wang: I mean hard, but I don’t know.
217 00:15:59.100 ⇒ 00:16:03.730 Hannah Wang: Just like some I don’t know.
218 00:16:04.130 ⇒ 00:16:09.589 Hannah Wang: At least you’re working compared to like before, when you were searching for stuff and whatnot.
219 00:16:10.020 ⇒ 00:16:19.250 Robert Tseng: Yeah, sure, I guess, like, I’m always searching for stuff. But yeah, that is my job to always be searching.
220 00:16:19.250 ⇒ 00:16:25.460 Hannah Wang: No, you no, maybe God is teaching you to stay for a little bit. I don’t know.
221 00:16:26.930 ⇒ 00:16:30.129 Robert Tseng: Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, like, I’m not like looking to
222 00:16:31.080 ⇒ 00:16:43.590 Robert Tseng: jump to another job or whatever. That’s not what I would like to do, if anything I would, I would do no job or job right now. I’ve given it a good run the longest time. I’ve worked at a
223 00:16:43.920 ⇒ 00:16:46.560 Robert Tseng: kind of thing for ever so.
224 00:16:46.560 ⇒ 00:16:49.040 Hannah Wang: Yeah, yeah, that’s true.
225 00:16:49.390 ⇒ 00:16:53.070 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s fine. I mean, even with things right now, like
226 00:16:53.540 ⇒ 00:16:56.730 Robert Tseng: we’re doing what we can to kind of push on sales or whatever. But
227 00:16:59.030 ⇒ 00:17:05.850 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean, like, this week I’ve been able to support. I guess I’m talking about work now, but like on
228 00:17:06.410 ⇒ 00:17:15.549 Robert Tseng: like pool parts is like we? Tom’s oldest client. He’s always held that one pretty close to his chest. There’s a lot of pride around it. They had a tough conversation with him last week. They’re just like
229 00:17:16.560 ⇒ 00:17:19.439 Robert Tseng: we don’t wanna work with you anymore. I think
230 00:17:20.069 ⇒ 00:17:31.749 Robert Tseng: so. Then he finally asked me for help, and like, Yeah, I worked on Sunday evening, and then some yesterday or yeah. Well, I mean today, kind of like
231 00:17:32.440 ⇒ 00:17:35.350 Robert Tseng: trying to help them like.
232 00:17:38.300 ⇒ 00:17:53.309 Robert Tseng: try to mediate like a different plan that we can go forward with them on. I think they’re open to kind of the direction that I’m I propose to take things in. But I spent like 2 h of their team today. So I’ve never. I’ve never talked to them before. This today was the 1st day I met and talked to them.
233 00:17:53.520 ⇒ 00:17:56.520 Robert Tseng: 1st 45 min was complaints, and then.
234 00:17:57.220 ⇒ 00:18:03.420 Robert Tseng: yeah, then I had. Then we jump to a different call, and I eventually I came back and I got to just talk to them on my own and
235 00:18:05.310 ⇒ 00:18:07.720 Robert Tseng: it’s good. Thanks for that. I think that was more productive.
236 00:18:09.650 ⇒ 00:18:17.579 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so that. And then Joby, think just haven’t really heard back from them. I’ve been feeling like, Oh.
237 00:18:19.520 ⇒ 00:18:28.490 Robert Tseng: drop the ball on that one. I don’t really think. Yeah, I don’t. I don’t think we ended well with them. So just anyway, I’m hoping they’ll come back around. But
238 00:18:30.620 ⇒ 00:18:37.190 Robert Tseng: yeah, other than that, there’s nothing I can really do. Just just waiting. Just have to trust the process. Try to keep doing
239 00:18:40.290 ⇒ 00:18:51.669 Robert Tseng: help where I can. So I feel like it’s less. I mean, there is objectively less work right now for me, cause I’m not doing like 3 active clients. It’s really yeah. So
240 00:18:52.350 ⇒ 00:18:59.225 Robert Tseng: yeah, I’m just kind of taking it as it is and try to do a little bit more quality stuff, spend more time with people
241 00:18:59.620 ⇒ 00:19:03.899 Robert Tseng: like on the team, and like encouraging amber. I had a good
242 00:19:04.220 ⇒ 00:19:10.000 Robert Tseng: yesterday evening Amber called me. And yeah, I think
243 00:19:11.250 ⇒ 00:19:17.690 Robert Tseng: she’s she’s really close to or like talks to utam a lot so like Utah, really correct.
244 00:19:17.830 ⇒ 00:19:22.960 Robert Tseng: gives her his perspective, which is just 1 1 side, you know. But I think it’s.
245 00:19:23.100 ⇒ 00:19:26.770 Robert Tseng: you know, for someone, as you know, malleable as she is like.
246 00:19:27.030 ⇒ 00:19:30.798 Robert Tseng: yeah, definitely need to give her more perspectives.
247 00:19:31.470 ⇒ 00:19:32.220 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
248 00:19:33.550 ⇒ 00:19:44.770 Robert Tseng: cause I can feel that she feels a lot of pressure to go in and just be like, okay, how do I, how do I like automate this like that’s her go to like question to everything. Now, I’m like amber. It’s okay, just like
249 00:19:45.010 ⇒ 00:19:47.619 Robert Tseng: chill out like, you don’t have to automate everything like.
250 00:19:48.250 ⇒ 00:19:51.229 Robert Tseng: yeah, I mean, I understand there’s value to that. But like.
251 00:19:51.790 ⇒ 00:20:16.110 Robert Tseng: I don’t know, I I do things that don’t get automated or whatever like, just enjoy, enjoy the process of solving the problem like, try to go deeper on things like, Don’t jump to chat, gpt to like, ask, like to have do all the thinking. Don’t outsource your thinking, you know, just like you can use it for execution. But you should come up with the plans. Think about what you want to do and how you want to approach problems yourself. So
252 00:20:16.180 ⇒ 00:20:25.139 Robert Tseng: anyway, just trying to kind of coach her a bit that way, and not just jump through. Jump to like, how do we automate this? Yeah.
253 00:20:25.830 ⇒ 00:20:27.010 Hannah Wang: AI!
254 00:20:27.010 ⇒ 00:20:34.899 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so yeah, I mean, I have a couple of events this week tomorrow, and and Fridays on
255 00:20:35.360 ⇒ 00:20:45.279 Robert Tseng: bracing myself for that, just trying to chill. Last week I had a couple of duds really terrible events like oh, my goodness! One of them was the worst event I’ve ever gone to.
256 00:20:45.660 ⇒ 00:20:46.230 Hannah Wang: I should.
257 00:20:46.230 ⇒ 00:20:47.889 Robert Tseng: Unknown. It was just like a
258 00:20:48.920 ⇒ 00:20:53.149 Robert Tseng: you know, when there’s like 400 attendees, and it’s like a single bar.
259 00:20:53.150 ⇒ 00:20:53.820 Hannah Wang: Oh!
260 00:20:53.820 ⇒ 00:20:58.210 Robert Tseng: Everybody showed up at the same time, but like that should have been a red flag for me like don’t go.
261 00:20:58.360 ⇒ 00:20:59.070 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
262 00:20:59.350 ⇒ 00:21:00.090 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
263 00:21:00.310 ⇒ 00:21:06.239 Robert Tseng: when you’re just like packed like sardines, can’t talk to anyone. And it was just like, met a lot of like
264 00:21:06.570 ⇒ 00:21:12.940 Robert Tseng: finance pros and not pleasant. Yeah, so
265 00:21:14.830 ⇒ 00:21:22.230 Robert Tseng: yeah, that kind of scared me off for a bit. And I was like, I’m not going anywhere else. I need to recover a bit. But it’s okay.
266 00:21:23.010 ⇒ 00:21:23.780 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
267 00:21:27.900 ⇒ 00:21:30.520 Robert Tseng: Yeah. And then we’re just planning our trip. So
268 00:21:30.950 ⇒ 00:21:40.597 Robert Tseng: oh, I I guess while I was like spiral spiraling and not doing well on the sales side. I went and got licensed as a as a travel planner.
269 00:21:41.100 ⇒ 00:21:42.240 Hannah Wang: What?
270 00:21:43.050 ⇒ 00:21:48.455 Robert Tseng: Yeah, it’s actually not very hard. So I I now have I’m a travel agent, so you can.
271 00:21:49.500 ⇒ 00:21:58.879 Robert Tseng: You want. You can use my credits to go and get travel agent like rates. And I get 10% commission on everything.
272 00:21:59.270 ⇒ 00:22:00.290 Hannah Wang: Wow!
273 00:22:00.480 ⇒ 00:22:03.290 Robert Tseng: Which I would obviously pass back to you, or whatever so.
274 00:22:03.290 ⇒ 00:22:06.550 Hannah Wang: That’s so funny. So for Africa, right?
275 00:22:06.950 ⇒ 00:22:13.330 Robert Tseng: Yeah. So now, I’ve like, Re, I like last night, I like rebooked everything on Europe and Africa for us.
276 00:22:13.790 ⇒ 00:22:16.559 Robert Tseng: yeah, it’s pretty great.
277 00:22:16.700 ⇒ 00:22:18.010 Hannah Wang: Wow, yeah.
278 00:22:18.230 ⇒ 00:22:19.339 Robert Tseng: I think we saved.
279 00:22:19.560 ⇒ 00:22:23.999 Robert Tseng: We saved 250, so, like.
280 00:22:24.000 ⇒ 00:22:25.020 Hannah Wang: Oh, nice!
281 00:22:25.020 ⇒ 00:22:25.750 Robert Tseng: Pretty good.
282 00:22:25.920 ⇒ 00:22:27.140 Hannah Wang: 7, 50.
283 00:22:27.140 ⇒ 00:22:33.869 Robert Tseng: Yeah, so like the whole entire trip, like lodging, whatever, all that ends up being closer to like 20
284 00:22:34.370 ⇒ 00:22:37.310 Robert Tseng: 5. But that was it was.
285 00:22:37.600 ⇒ 00:22:44.350 Robert Tseng: And then, like, yeah, I got like a discount. And then I also got the the commission from it, so
286 00:22:44.830 ⇒ 00:22:48.440 Robert Tseng: like it, it dropped it with a wall below, like below, 2,000.
287 00:22:49.650 ⇒ 00:22:57.518 Hannah Wang: Oh, well, I don’t know if Eric and I are traveling big anytime soon, but if when we do, I’m gonna reach out to my travel agent.
288 00:22:57.790 ⇒ 00:23:12.839 Robert Tseng: Yeah, or I mean, I’ll I have a platform, too. So I have it in one pass like I just shared it. Rachel wanted to edit the itinerary. I was just like, go into my account and go edit it yourself, so you can also just go in and book, stuff yourself, using the platform.
289 00:23:12.840 ⇒ 00:23:13.510 Hannah Wang: One thing.
290 00:23:13.680 ⇒ 00:23:16.889 Robert Tseng: Yeah, but it’s crazy. It’s actually a great side hustle.
291 00:23:17.090 ⇒ 00:23:17.820 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
292 00:23:17.820 ⇒ 00:23:31.330 Robert Tseng: Oh, my goodness! Like they give you, I mean, I you have to spend. It’s kind of similar problem yet. Discover, Bill. You have to. You have to be known as like the Go to person, for like that country, I don’t know like I have to like kind of position myself that way.
293 00:23:31.570 ⇒ 00:23:32.420 Robert Tseng: But
294 00:23:32.960 ⇒ 00:23:40.970 Robert Tseng: yeah, if someone does like a luxury booking which they do like it, people drop like 10 grand on a vacation.
295 00:23:41.380 ⇒ 00:23:46.799 Robert Tseng: It’s pretty good. You just you just get a you get. You get a thousand for just clicking buttons. It’s insane.
296 00:23:46.940 ⇒ 00:23:48.329 Hannah Wang: Like you, book it for them, and.
297 00:23:48.330 ⇒ 00:23:50.030 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you just book it for them. Yeah.
298 00:23:50.910 ⇒ 00:23:57.110 Robert Tseng: I mean, they have. You have to like, jump on a call with them. Be like, oh, yeah, I think you should use this hotel, or whatever.
299 00:23:57.110 ⇒ 00:23:57.620 Hannah Wang: Okay.
300 00:23:57.620 ⇒ 00:24:00.980 Robert Tseng: And then you just like click some buttons. And then like, it’s like, Wow.
301 00:24:01.220 ⇒ 00:24:08.100 Hannah Wang: Thanks, and when people got money to burn through, you just do that.
302 00:24:08.100 ⇒ 00:24:08.910 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
303 00:24:08.910 ⇒ 00:24:16.049 Hannah Wang: Luxury. It’s like wedding. It’s like a wedding planner. It’s like you can do it all yourself. But people just outsource it because.
304 00:24:16.050 ⇒ 00:24:25.550 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that seems more involved, because it’s like so many vendors to coordinate. But this is really just booking like hotels and maybe tours. Sometimes I guess
305 00:24:25.690 ⇒ 00:24:26.480 Robert Tseng: yeah.
306 00:24:27.490 ⇒ 00:24:31.249 Hannah Wang: No, you have to be strategic about where you
307 00:24:31.860 ⇒ 00:24:37.170 Hannah Wang: wanna place yourself like do somewhere do a country that has like a bunch of bougie.
308 00:24:37.755 ⇒ 00:24:38.340 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
309 00:24:38.340 ⇒ 00:24:39.500 Hannah Wang: 1,000 stuff.
310 00:24:40.350 ⇒ 00:24:40.930 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
311 00:24:41.810 ⇒ 00:24:45.469 Hannah Wang: Like Fort like Hawaii Hawaii, like one of the islands.
312 00:24:45.470 ⇒ 00:24:46.160 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
313 00:24:46.350 ⇒ 00:24:52.100 Hannah Wang: People honeymoon there all the time. Or, Yeah.
314 00:24:52.100 ⇒ 00:24:54.140 Robert Tseng: Testing just New York for now.
315 00:24:54.410 ⇒ 00:24:55.619 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
316 00:24:55.620 ⇒ 00:25:00.949 Robert Tseng: I feel like that’ll be easy. Oh, yeah, I live here, you know. I know. I know stuff.
317 00:25:00.950 ⇒ 00:25:02.019 Hannah Wang: I’m a local.
318 00:25:04.282 ⇒ 00:25:05.610 Hannah Wang: That’s true. Yeah.
319 00:25:06.450 ⇒ 00:25:13.680 Robert Tseng: The met gala was going on yesterday, so then I saw Zendaya on my block as well.
320 00:25:14.550 ⇒ 00:25:16.690 Hannah Wang: But that’s wild.
321 00:25:16.690 ⇒ 00:25:21.719 Robert Tseng: She stayed the same hotel that Simbone Bile stayed in. I guess a lot of people go. A lot of celebrities go stay there.
322 00:25:21.720 ⇒ 00:25:22.880 Hannah Wang: I see.
323 00:25:23.020 ⇒ 00:25:23.610 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
324 00:25:23.970 ⇒ 00:25:25.150 Hannah Wang: Zendaya.
325 00:25:25.390 ⇒ 00:25:26.540 Robert Tseng: Oh, zendaya.
326 00:25:26.940 ⇒ 00:25:28.220 Hannah Wang: And met gala.
327 00:25:28.360 ⇒ 00:25:30.185 Robert Tseng: Met gal
328 00:25:32.010 ⇒ 00:25:33.679 Hannah Wang: What’s the gala.
329 00:25:33.680 ⇒ 00:25:34.000 Robert Tseng: Oh, okay.
330 00:25:34.430 ⇒ 00:25:36.400 Hannah Wang: Like gala apple, gala.
331 00:25:36.540 ⇒ 00:25:39.189 Robert Tseng: I always thought it was Gayla, but.
332 00:25:39.350 ⇒ 00:25:41.179 Hannah Wang: I think it’s gala.
333 00:25:41.180 ⇒ 00:25:44.260 Robert Tseng: You’re probably right there. I don’t understand why it would be Kayla.
334 00:25:46.020 ⇒ 00:25:46.730 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
335 00:25:46.880 ⇒ 00:25:50.070 Hannah Wang: Okay, good use of your spiraling time.
336 00:25:51.480 ⇒ 00:25:54.005 Hannah Wang: Yeah, it’s another distraction. So
337 00:25:54.510 ⇒ 00:26:02.339 Hannah Wang: yeah, when I don’t want to do brain forge or upwork stuff, I just do photo stuff. It’s like a productive spiral. Yeah, action. I’m like, okay.
338 00:26:03.000 ⇒ 00:26:07.860 Robert Tseng: Yeah, that’s how I spiral. I go and like, I think about doing other things.
339 00:26:08.650 ⇒ 00:26:09.210 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
340 00:26:11.180 ⇒ 00:26:12.130 Hannah Wang: Okay.
341 00:26:12.350 ⇒ 00:26:12.940 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
342 00:26:14.300 ⇒ 00:26:19.829 Hannah Wang: Okay. Well, I guess work for me. It’s just I feel like I’m handing
343 00:26:20.740 ⇒ 00:26:27.910 Hannah Wang: more more of the execution stuff off to. And and now I’m taking on more of like.
344 00:26:28.610 ⇒ 00:26:45.940 Hannah Wang: I feel like a Pm. At this point. Kind of, but I guess for the promotion stuff and just making sure everyone’s knowing what they’re doing, which is fine. It’s like event planning. In a way, if I think about it like that, it’s not as intimidating. It’s like, oh, I just have all these
345 00:26:49.610 ⇒ 00:26:53.700 Hannah Wang: client. Well, vendors, clients! I don’t know. They’re not really synonymous, but.
346 00:26:53.700 ⇒ 00:26:54.310 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
347 00:26:54.310 ⇒ 00:27:01.739 Hannah Wang: Making sure I like follow up with everyone and make sure everything’s kind of squared off and stuff. So
348 00:27:02.690 ⇒ 00:27:06.339 Hannah Wang: I guess it’s fine. I don’t know. We’ll see how it goes.
349 00:27:06.470 ⇒ 00:27:11.930 Hannah Wang: But yeah, not not doing as much design stuff.
350 00:27:12.100 ⇒ 00:27:17.870 Hannah Wang: or I still am. But I think Utam wants me to focus on.
351 00:27:19.850 ⇒ 00:27:27.839 Hannah Wang: Yeah, more broader things, like the events and stuff like that which is fine. I think
352 00:27:28.420 ⇒ 00:27:46.759 Hannah Wang: if I just have the mentality that it’s like, Oh, it’s not like super high stakes. It’s fine. It’s just event planning. You’re chilling like it’s fine like for photography stuff. I’m like so fine with it. For some reason, just like putting myself out there and like, I’m not afraid to like look like a doofus.
353 00:27:47.110 ⇒ 00:27:59.949 Hannah Wang: But with within the context of a court, an organization, or like a job. I get like scared. So I don’t know why. I think it’s kind of what I said to you over slack. I don’t wanna get fired. But
354 00:28:00.220 ⇒ 00:28:07.780 Hannah Wang: I yeah, if I don’t think like that, then it it’s fun. But if I do think like that, then it’s like scary. So.
355 00:28:08.230 ⇒ 00:28:10.859 Robert Tseng: That’s so interesting because it’s usually the other way around.
356 00:28:11.430 ⇒ 00:28:15.940 Robert Tseng: Feel like I’m I have. I’m more scared of doing stuff for myself than I am just like
357 00:28:16.280 ⇒ 00:28:27.449 Robert Tseng: whatever worst thing I can do is get fired. We have different perspectives of of like towards being fired. You’re afraid of it, and I’m just like whatever, like.
358 00:28:27.450 ⇒ 00:28:28.140 Hannah Wang: Someone who knows.
359 00:28:28.140 ⇒ 00:28:29.310 Robert Tseng: Why are you?
360 00:28:29.700 ⇒ 00:28:33.659 Hannah Wang: But it’s like, why, why is your own like for your own name?
361 00:28:33.970 ⇒ 00:28:39.539 Hannah Wang: Company, stuff like what? What’s more like? What’s why? Is that worse than getting fired like, if you.
362 00:28:39.540 ⇒ 00:28:43.399 Robert Tseng: It’s more of my reputation, like the failure feels more personal.
363 00:28:45.450 ⇒ 00:28:52.680 Robert Tseng: yeah, I think stuff like that, like, I feel like it’s easier to hide behind a corporation to be like, Oh, yeah. Well.
364 00:28:53.250 ⇒ 00:28:55.990 Robert Tseng: that role didn’t work out or like.
365 00:28:56.270 ⇒ 00:29:02.389 Robert Tseng: you know, you can abstract it away, or rather than it’s like, Oh, yeah, I did that. I failed, you know, like.
366 00:29:02.640 ⇒ 00:29:03.280 Hannah Wang: Oh!
367 00:29:03.280 ⇒ 00:29:03.810 Robert Tseng: No.
368 00:29:06.360 ⇒ 00:29:10.619 Hannah Wang: Interesting. We think so differently interesting.
369 00:29:12.960 ⇒ 00:29:25.160 Hannah Wang: Well, I guess it’s cause like within a corporation. Other people depend on you. And I don’t like that pressure versus just me. I have. It’s my own timeline, so I don’t. I can like map it out as I want to.
370 00:29:25.160 ⇒ 00:29:25.930 Robert Tseng: I see
371 00:29:26.380 ⇒ 00:29:31.659 Robert Tseng: I always view myself as replaceable when I’m on a in a team, or a corporation, or whatever.
372 00:29:31.770 ⇒ 00:29:35.229 Robert Tseng: Yeah, my, well, if I get fired they’re gonna hire someone else to replace me.
373 00:29:35.230 ⇒ 00:29:35.980 Hannah Wang: I know.
374 00:29:35.980 ⇒ 00:29:38.611 Robert Tseng: The organization will continue like whatever.
375 00:29:39.050 ⇒ 00:29:48.250 Hannah Wang: But you yourself, if you’re your own organization, you will also continue like, if you fail, you have to get back up. So it’s like the same.
376 00:29:49.070 ⇒ 00:29:49.740 Robert Tseng: I know.
377 00:29:49.740 ⇒ 00:29:57.120 Hannah Wang: Less buffer like you don’t have to get hired. You just like if you work for yourself, you just get back up versus like, if you get fired, you have to
378 00:29:57.550 ⇒ 00:30:00.619 Hannah Wang: find a job and like interview and stuff.
379 00:30:00.920 ⇒ 00:30:01.580 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
380 00:30:01.720 ⇒ 00:30:03.760 Hannah Wang: I don’t know, anyway.
381 00:30:05.690 ⇒ 00:30:06.540 Robert Tseng: That’s true.
382 00:30:06.540 ⇒ 00:30:07.160 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
383 00:30:08.860 ⇒ 00:30:13.860 Robert Tseng: I guess 2 ways of looking at. Let me just look at it in opposite ways. I guess.
384 00:30:13.860 ⇒ 00:30:15.600 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I don’t know which one is.
385 00:30:16.500 ⇒ 00:30:20.650 Robert Tseng: The problem. That’s obviously not good either way. Probably somewhere.
386 00:30:20.980 ⇒ 00:30:25.186 Robert Tseng: Yeah, you just don’t view your entire identity to your work so much.
387 00:30:25.510 ⇒ 00:30:26.180 Hannah Wang: Yeah.
388 00:30:26.180 ⇒ 00:30:27.419 Robert Tseng: Easier said than done.
389 00:30:28.140 ⇒ 00:30:34.110 Robert Tseng: I think people misunderstand. It’s not that I don’t care about my work like I think sometimes think I look careless, or whatever it’s like.
390 00:30:34.820 ⇒ 00:30:39.420 Robert Tseng: I don’t think I am like I I do care about what I do like, but it’s just
391 00:30:39.900 ⇒ 00:30:42.729 Robert Tseng: yeah. We all fear different things in our work. So.
392 00:30:42.730 ⇒ 00:30:44.650 Hannah Wang: Yeah, interesting.
393 00:30:44.650 ⇒ 00:30:45.260 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
394 00:30:47.090 ⇒ 00:30:54.129 Hannah Wang: Well, yeah, I’m trying to make an Llc. I have no idea how to do that. But I’ll ask Chat gpt.
395 00:30:57.500 ⇒ 00:31:01.299 Hannah Wang: What am I doing with my life? I don’t know. It’s okay.
396 00:31:02.060 ⇒ 00:31:08.579 Robert Tseng: It’s good. No Rush, you know. Take take your time, enjoy the process. Try to like, be be present, I think.
397 00:31:09.650 ⇒ 00:31:16.769 Robert Tseng: the the thing. The thing that you bought back is really just like your own sense of agency. You can kinda go at the pace you want to like.
398 00:31:17.020 ⇒ 00:31:19.513 Robert Tseng: Don’t let people push you too much.
399 00:31:20.420 ⇒ 00:31:24.440 Robert Tseng: it’s easier said than done. But yeah, I try to tell myself that I’m just like.
400 00:31:24.690 ⇒ 00:31:27.149 Robert Tseng: yeah, tomorrow I’m gonna go to a museum.
401 00:31:27.890 ⇒ 00:31:29.310 Robert Tseng: I’m going, but I’m gonna go.
402 00:31:30.350 ⇒ 00:31:32.319 Hannah Wang: Yeah, you blocked it off. I was like, Yeah.
403 00:31:32.600 ⇒ 00:31:33.090 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
404 00:31:33.090 ⇒ 00:31:33.685 Hannah Wang: But.
405 00:31:35.300 ⇒ 00:31:38.650 Robert Tseng: But I need to go get my free library card right now. So.
406 00:31:38.650 ⇒ 00:31:42.219 Hannah Wang: Oh, does that help you get into museums?
407 00:31:42.835 ⇒ 00:31:43.450 Robert Tseng: Yeah.
408 00:31:43.450 ⇒ 00:31:45.799 Hannah Wang: Oh, I see!
409 00:31:46.630 ⇒ 00:31:51.519 Robert Tseng: Oh, I need to tell Rachel. Actually, I can’t do it today. I need to get Rachel to print some stuff out. So.
410 00:31:51.690 ⇒ 00:31:52.200 Hannah Wang: Hmm.
411 00:31:52.200 ⇒ 00:31:56.370 Robert Tseng: And bring it into the library. Okay, that’s what I’ll do before I leave. Yeah.
412 00:31:57.800 ⇒ 00:32:02.970 Hannah Wang: Alrighty. Well, see you tomorrow on slack.
413 00:32:03.110 ⇒ 00:32:03.940 Robert Tseng: Okay.
414 00:32:04.310 ⇒ 00:32:04.800 Hannah Wang: Okay?
415 00:32:05.420 ⇒ 00:32:05.990 Hannah Wang: Bye.