Meeting Title: Friday Meeting Rituals + Company People-culture initiatives Date: 2025-05-01 Meeting participants: Hannah Wang, Amber Lin


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1 00:02:08.990 00:02:11.039 Amber Lin: Oh, wait!

2 00:02:12.070 00:02:13.470 Hannah Wang: Hi! Good morning!

3 00:02:13.600 00:02:18.399 Amber Lin: Good morning. I imagine this is quite early for you.

4 00:02:18.720 00:02:22.899 Hannah Wang: Oh, no, it’s alright. I try to wake up around 7.

5 00:02:23.600 00:02:24.870 Hannah Wang: So it’s okay.

6 00:02:26.260 00:02:27.440 Amber Lin: Sounds good.

7 00:02:27.840 00:02:30.719 Hannah Wang: You have been up since 6.

8 00:02:31.200 00:02:39.659 Amber Lin: 6 30. Well, but I tried to get up at 6. I couldn’t. I just could not do it. I came home pretty late last night, slept.

9 00:02:39.660 00:02:40.360 Hannah Wang: Got it.

10 00:02:40.360 00:02:42.512 Amber Lin: 1230, I.

11 00:02:43.230 00:02:44.090 Hannah Wang: Or.

12 00:02:46.410 00:02:48.599 Amber Lin: Let’s see. Friday.

13 00:02:48.800 00:02:52.730 Amber Lin: Okay, let’s open up the talk.

14 00:02:55.660 00:03:00.399 Amber Lin: I will share my screen.

15 00:03:04.800 00:03:09.439 Hannah Wang: I haven’t. I know there’s a lot of messages in the Channel.

16 00:03:09.440 00:03:11.940 Amber Lin: Oh, that’s fine. It’s their ideas. Don’t.

17 00:03:13.950 00:03:15.040 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.

18 00:03:15.790 00:03:25.229 Amber Lin: like whatever I I feel like for any of my team members, or who for whoever, if I send anything after your like.

19 00:03:25.830 00:03:36.319 Amber Lin: my work hours for us is just like after, say, like 4, like 5 Pm. Like I, it’s just it’s just a what is it called?

20 00:03:37.231 00:03:39.818 Amber Lin: A box that I talked to?

21 00:03:41.820 00:03:48.990 Amber Lin: I don’t expect any responses. But here I put in. I asked Gpt, and kind of asked

22 00:03:49.290 00:03:56.380 Amber Lin: it. Some goals that we want to achieve for this meeting?

23 00:03:56.750 00:03:58.160 Amber Lin: Good.

24 00:03:59.370 00:04:00.460 Amber Lin: Oh, let’s see.

25 00:04:00.870 00:04:08.360 Amber Lin: So ultimately, it’s like, why are we like, why are we doing this right? And what is

26 00:04:09.550 00:04:32.040 Amber Lin: success look like for us, and also for us to think about? Which part are we interested in, and who’s best equipped to help. With which part I just want to show you a quick snapshot of what I’ve been working on for the strategy, and I’ll skip the I’ll skip the other parts. But you know the main.

27 00:04:32.190 00:04:40.860 Amber Lin: Where is it? The main? 3 things, like the main 3 objectives, is client, outstanding, client, service, employee, satisfaction

28 00:04:41.480 00:04:44.500 Amber Lin: and financial success.

29 00:04:48.050 00:04:56.030 Amber Lin: And honestly, we’re what we’re looking at today falls under this. I know it helps for you to know the why. So I wanted

30 00:04:56.680 00:05:03.299 Amber Lin: fill you in on this. So for employee satisfaction, let me scroll down to this.

31 00:05:04.140 00:05:09.089 Amber Lin: And ultimately these are some core ideas of

32 00:05:09.360 00:05:18.639 Amber Lin: like, why, this is really important of, because as a service business, the people is our product, and we want to make sure that

33 00:05:19.720 00:05:23.169 Amber Lin: we maintain it well or and have a

34 00:05:24.750 00:05:30.589 Amber Lin: This. This is what’s gonna what everything we act like

35 00:05:30.840 00:05:34.120 Amber Lin: function on. So this is very, very important.

36 00:05:34.590 00:05:44.389 Amber Lin: For us, and better teams has better client service, better financial performance. It’s better to scale Yada Yadda Yada.

37 00:05:44.530 00:05:49.479 Amber Lin: And here are some core area. So

38 00:05:50.150 00:06:01.380 Amber Lin: do they have clarity and growth? And do they get feedback? Do they feel like they have ownership? And is there connection? And is their work sustainable?

39 00:06:01.920 00:06:04.059 Amber Lin: So some areas.

40 00:06:05.257 00:06:12.020 Amber Lin: Here are not actually a lot of these are like, these are kind of overlapping.

41 00:06:12.140 00:06:17.049 Hannah Wang: Yeah, this is what mainly we’re addressing for.

42 00:06:17.280 00:06:21.669 Amber Lin: The Friday rituals. I think that’s what we’re gonna focus on this meeting.

43 00:06:22.370 00:06:26.710 Amber Lin: And I was working on that yesterday. It was pretty fun, so.

44 00:06:26.710 00:06:27.390 Hannah Wang: What’s that?

45 00:06:28.117 00:06:31.279 Amber Lin: It’s it’s a you know, personality.

46 00:06:31.280 00:06:32.829 Hannah Wang: Oh, that’s cool!

47 00:06:32.830 00:06:40.970 Amber Lin: Too big. Because I I studied the Joanian 8 cognitive functions quite a lot. But like, how?

48 00:06:41.540 00:06:43.580 Amber Lin: Essentially it’s just under.

49 00:06:43.820 00:06:48.380 Amber Lin: And these questions of, how do we work together? How do they handle stress.

50 00:06:48.610 00:06:51.469 Amber Lin: or like what energizes a drain stuff.

51 00:06:51.470 00:06:51.980 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

52 00:06:51.980 00:06:58.140 Amber Lin: This is repetitive, anyways. And how do we communicate? Etcetera.

53 00:06:58.590 00:07:00.579 Hannah Wang: Oh, I love these types of things, too.

54 00:07:00.580 00:07:01.480 Hannah Wang: I know.

55 00:07:01.480 00:07:02.329 Amber Lin: Personality test.

56 00:07:02.330 00:07:06.340 Amber Lin: So have you took, like the 16 personalities.

57 00:07:06.910 00:07:15.060 Hannah Wang: The Mbti. Yeah. And I also. There’s another one called the Enneagram, which I thought was actually more helpful than Mbti.

58 00:07:15.843 00:07:32.179 Amber Lin: Mbti itself, like the 4 letters, is not helpful. I found that the underlying theory, though, is helpful, so the 8 functions, I mostly guess correctly. If I go from the 8 functions and not the.

59 00:07:32.719 00:07:33.379 Hannah Wang: The letters.

60 00:07:33.380 00:07:36.860 Amber Lin: Not the letters. Do you know where you are, or like the

61 00:07:37.080 00:07:39.540 Amber Lin: one or 2 that you fluctuate between.

62 00:07:39.740 00:07:45.770 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I I think I’m Istj. Hmm.

63 00:07:45.770 00:07:51.240 Hannah Wang: I used to be Isfj, but I think I’m less of a feeler now and more of a thinker.

64 00:07:51.570 00:07:54.040 Hannah Wang: I forgot what the letters stand for, but.

65 00:07:54.280 00:07:58.150 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think the letters make no sense from.

66 00:07:58.533 00:08:02.749 Hannah Wang: Except introverted and extroverted. That that makes sense to me. But.

67 00:08:03.044 00:08:05.399 Amber Lin: Still, that does not make sense to me.

68 00:08:05.400 00:08:05.990 Hannah Wang: Really.

69 00:08:06.431 00:08:13.058 Amber Lin: I can explain the functions next time we meet. I am deep into this stuff.

70 00:08:13.500 00:08:16.011 Hannah Wang: Yeah, you should look into the enneagram.

71 00:08:16.370 00:08:17.400 Amber Lin: How do I spell it?

72 00:08:17.400 00:08:22.189 Hannah Wang: ENNE, a, GRAM. I’ll put it in the chat.

73 00:08:22.350 00:08:23.550 Amber Lin: Okay.

74 00:08:24.450 00:08:45.680 Hannah Wang: This is more. This is like they kind of categorize people into numbers like one through 9 instead of like 4 letters. But I think, with the Enneagram, like all the numbers, are kind of related to each other, and you can. It doesn’t put you in a rigid box. I think it. It’s like, Oh, you have the highest.

75 00:08:45.780 00:08:52.866 Hannah Wang: You may be high on like the 6, but you have qualities of like a 4, for example,

76 00:08:53.260 00:08:53.770 Amber Lin: So.

77 00:08:53.770 00:08:58.739 Hannah Wang: But I I found that to be like a little bit more helpful.

78 00:08:58.740 00:08:59.430 Amber Lin: Yeah.

79 00:08:59.890 00:09:01.920 Amber Lin: Sorry you said you were. Is.

80 00:09:02.310 00:09:12.629 Hannah Wang: Is Tj, I think, or one of them. I was fluctuating. I think it was either the or 4th letter that I fluctuate between. But

81 00:09:13.860 00:09:17.519 Amber Lin: See that makes that makes a lot of sense.

82 00:09:18.030 00:09:20.899 Hannah Wang: I haven’t looked at it in a while, but.

83 00:09:21.180 00:09:21.620 Amber Lin: Yeah.

84 00:09:21.620 00:09:24.770 Hannah Wang: Yeah, anyways.

85 00:09:24.770 00:09:27.819 Hannah Wang: Anyway, yeah, I I like this type of stuff. I think it helps.

86 00:09:27.820 00:09:28.540 Amber Lin: Yeah.

87 00:09:28.540 00:09:29.889 Hannah Wang: Like me, reflect on myself.

88 00:09:29.890 00:09:35.979 Amber Lin: If you wanna help on that like help on that. Because I we think I think we want to create.

89 00:09:36.480 00:09:39.370 Amber Lin: And AI to do the personality.

90 00:09:39.370 00:09:40.330 Hannah Wang: Oh!

91 00:09:40.330 00:09:43.640 Amber Lin: Everything else we kind of pay for, and it’s kind of rigid.

92 00:09:43.640 00:09:44.160 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

93 00:09:44.160 00:09:54.650 Amber Lin: So I was thinking about yesterday, okay, what context do we need? What can we feed in? And I’ll just dump all the questions I can find on the Internet and ask it to create like a.

94 00:09:54.953 00:09:58.589 Hannah Wang: Okay, I can help test it out, too. I feel like that.

95 00:09:58.590 00:10:06.640 Amber Lin: Yeah, I feel like, I really know what type I am because I’ve done it so much like I I know myself.

96 00:10:06.880 00:10:10.819 Amber Lin: So it will be really helpful if I get other testers as well.

97 00:10:10.820 00:10:12.570 Hannah Wang: Do you know what your letters are?

98 00:10:13.753 00:10:19.490 Amber Lin: Infp, very, very, very long. Time has not changed.

99 00:10:19.490 00:10:21.340 Hannah Wang: Yeah, we’re like the exact opposite.

100 00:10:22.500 00:10:23.460 Hannah Wang: Interesting. Okay.

101 00:10:24.110 00:10:25.020 Amber Lin: Yeah.

102 00:10:25.020 00:10:25.820 Hannah Wang: Cool.

103 00:10:30.480 00:10:31.789 Amber Lin: Where am I?

104 00:10:32.630 00:10:48.119 Amber Lin: Oh, yeah, I I guess the 1st part is, I kind of want to get a sense of what you what you want to help with, like, what type of stuff would be interesting not only here, but you know, there’s also like

105 00:10:48.530 00:10:54.079 Amber Lin: improving delivery, helping or helping create

106 00:10:56.950 00:11:03.140 Amber Lin: hoping, ultimately helping, say, helping. Margins are like figuring out

107 00:11:04.310 00:11:09.090 Amber Lin: how we can scale revenue or just kind of marketing and kind of what you’re doing

108 00:11:09.330 00:11:12.709 Amber Lin: so, I wanted to figure out what’s interesting to you.

109 00:11:14.690 00:11:17.769 Hannah Wang: Sorry all these words are really big. Let me try to.

110 00:11:17.880 00:11:18.820 Amber Lin: Yeah.

111 00:11:19.470 00:11:20.483 Hannah Wang: Read it.

112 00:11:23.760 00:11:26.220 Hannah Wang: So I’m looking through one through 6, basically.

113 00:11:27.810 00:11:36.850 Amber Lin: Essentially, yeah, a lot of these will be kind of like Utah.

114 00:11:37.570 00:11:38.640 Amber Lin: Robert.

115 00:11:38.640 00:11:41.269 Hannah Wang: Number one is Uton, and Robert, probably.

116 00:11:41.270 00:11:42.120 Amber Lin: Yeah.

117 00:11:45.240 00:11:47.290 Hannah Wang: Lovely, and they will.

118 00:11:48.690 00:11:51.039 Hannah Wang: I mean, number 3 is more of just like.

119 00:11:55.040 00:11:56.540 Hannah Wang: yeah, delegation.

120 00:11:56.540 00:11:58.179 Amber Lin: I’m sure. Yeah.

121 00:11:59.595 00:12:01.010 Hannah Wang: I.

122 00:12:01.010 00:12:03.070 Amber Lin: Seems like I feel like for.

123 00:12:03.070 00:12:03.730 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

124 00:12:03.730 00:12:10.260 Amber Lin: This objective 2 is mostly gonna be this part.

125 00:12:10.260 00:12:10.760 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

126 00:12:10.760 00:12:13.520 Amber Lin: Because these are mostly leadership.

127 00:12:13.520 00:12:14.030 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

128 00:12:14.030 00:12:20.690 Amber Lin: With the once I flesh out these other objectives, we can also look at

129 00:12:20.940 00:12:27.840 Amber Lin: how we can do them, because this I think this one you’ll be a lot more involved in, because this is a lot of

130 00:12:28.010 00:12:32.520 Amber Lin: like marketing, and then case studies.

131 00:12:33.790 00:12:34.420 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

132 00:12:34.420 00:12:41.870 Amber Lin: Yeah, see where we wanna go. Okay, I’ll get. We’ll get back to that. Then. I’ll.

133 00:12:41.870 00:12:44.179 Hannah Wang: Number 4 is what we’re trying to tackle.

134 00:12:44.180 00:12:44.720 Amber Lin: Yes.

135 00:12:44.720 00:12:45.850 Hannah Wang: Today, so.

136 00:12:45.850 00:12:47.109 Amber Lin: Yes, you’re right.

137 00:12:47.410 00:12:59.240 Amber Lin: So oh, revisit purpose.

138 00:12:59.880 00:13:05.369 Amber Lin: Yeah, it’s figuring out like, what’s the real goal? How do we know if it’s working.

139 00:13:05.680 00:13:11.370 Amber Lin: How does it tie back to satisfaction?

140 00:13:14.890 00:13:25.730 Amber Lin: would you like to own the cultural initiative part? I’m not the best person to drive culture like I’m very of chop, chop, chop like this gets done that.

141 00:13:25.730 00:13:31.779 Hannah Wang: Oh, I can be like that, too, but I can also turn on another side.

142 00:13:31.780 00:13:32.240 Amber Lin: Hmm.

143 00:13:33.400 00:13:35.529 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean, this is just like.

144 00:13:36.540 00:13:41.730 Hannah Wang: yeah, I, it’s like, like, what’s it called icebreakers. And just

145 00:13:42.070 00:13:51.880 Hannah Wang: yeah, being friendly, basically, and having, like the sign ups and running like the lab, or whatever. And coffee tracks.

146 00:13:53.376 00:13:56.869 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I can run that I think.

147 00:13:57.360 00:14:01.399 Amber Lin: And I think what I thought about it also

148 00:14:01.580 00:14:12.450 Amber Lin: like when it comes to the Friday ones, we can honestly just rotate that within the company. If you know what it it should look like. At least the components we have.

149 00:14:12.860 00:14:17.949 Amber Lin: See, we can just have the person that’s running the lab run that meeting.

150 00:14:17.950 00:14:23.060 Amber Lin: Oh, yeah, it reduces your time, and it gets them more involved.

151 00:14:23.060 00:14:23.770 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

152 00:14:24.200 00:14:28.280 Amber Lin: The only cost would be coordination and getting them to actually do stuff.

153 00:14:28.280 00:14:35.749 Hannah Wang: Yeah, well, I mean, we probably need to write a doc of like this is what we do during the Friday meetings. This is like the timings

154 00:14:36.090 00:14:37.496 Hannah Wang: of it.

155 00:14:39.651 00:14:42.539 Amber Lin: I mean, we kind of have some here.

156 00:14:43.190 00:14:44.160 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

157 00:14:44.160 00:14:45.060 Amber Lin: Right.

158 00:14:45.320 00:14:54.200 Hannah Wang: There’s no yeah. I mean, I feel like, I mean, the challenge with the fun element is, people come late and stuff like that. So it’s kinda hard to like.

159 00:14:54.200 00:14:58.240 Amber Lin: Should we have that later, like maybe of this

160 00:14:58.460 00:15:05.429 Amber Lin: in the middle or at the end? Maybe I don’t know. Like how do we?

161 00:15:07.650 00:15:11.810 Amber Lin: I guess we could. We could start the meeting with like news.

162 00:15:12.230 00:15:13.020 Hannah Wang: Hmm.

163 00:15:13.450 00:15:14.160 Amber Lin: Like.

164 00:15:14.370 00:15:15.140 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

165 00:15:15.940 00:15:23.279 Amber Lin: Takeaways this like big news this week, like people guess that if they want.

166 00:15:24.180 00:15:24.900 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

167 00:15:25.200 00:15:28.180 Hannah Wang: And then, once, everyone’s kind of in the meeting.

168 00:15:28.800 00:15:32.350 Amber Lin: Yeah. -Oh and department.

169 00:15:34.340 00:15:39.820 Amber Lin: Yeah, then we do something fun.

170 00:15:40.560 00:15:49.309 Amber Lin: This, our goal is to have engagement set. The tone

171 00:15:52.660 00:15:54.490 Amber Lin: lab shares.

172 00:15:56.280 00:16:12.109 Amber Lin: Okay, lightning, Demos partner, should every do you think every team should demo this.

173 00:16:13.760 00:16:17.766 Hannah Wang: We only have 4 teams, right or.

174 00:16:18.440 00:16:27.200 Amber Lin: Listed out. So we have internal themes is gonna be marketing AI data.

175 00:16:27.340 00:16:27.970 Hannah Wang: But.

176 00:16:27.970 00:16:33.540 Amber Lin: For they’re doing some stuff there, too. Flying teams.

177 00:16:36.180 00:16:48.439 Amber Lin: Javi is pause even, maybe see forwards.

178 00:16:50.470 00:16:58.340 Amber Lin: My! Oh, we have quite a few teams, 9 or more open stabs.

179 00:16:59.340 00:17:01.609 Amber Lin: What else do I manage?

180 00:17:03.142 00:17:04.440 Amber Lin: Think that’s it?

181 00:17:08.700 00:17:11.589 Amber Lin: Yeah, I really can’t remember. I think that’s

182 00:17:12.900 00:17:17.500 Amber Lin: that’s about right. And maybe new clients.

183 00:17:18.890 00:17:21.280 Amber Lin: Do you think we should also do

184 00:17:21.390 00:17:29.170 Amber Lin: like a weekly retro? How close we are to the goals, or does that like? Does that not

185 00:17:29.780 00:17:33.079 Amber Lin: matter for people.

186 00:17:39.530 00:17:43.790 Hannah Wang: Oh, I’m making changes, but it’s not showing up on your side, whatever.

187 00:17:43.790 00:17:48.550 Amber Lin: Oh, I think I’m just. It’s not real time enough. I’ll refresh.

188 00:17:48.550 00:17:56.720 Hannah Wang: Okay? I mean, Utam has been doing like client health. Right? Is that kind of what you’re

189 00:17:56.980 00:17:57.980 Hannah Wang: thinking of.

190 00:17:57.980 00:18:07.230 Amber Lin: Yeah, client health. You remember, Rob was doing kind of like sales stuff. And also whatever I’m developing a strategy so just

191 00:18:07.440 00:18:12.830 Amber Lin: entirely as a company doing like a weekly audit of where we’re at.

192 00:18:15.620 00:18:17.760 Hannah Wang: I guess that falls under

193 00:18:21.020 00:18:29.450 Hannah Wang: the 1st one like, or I guess market and industry updates

194 00:18:31.350 00:18:32.540 Amber Lin: Just news.

195 00:18:32.880 00:18:35.809 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like, or updates, or something.

196 00:18:35.810 00:18:36.640 Amber Lin: Yeah.

197 00:18:37.300 00:18:43.019 Hannah Wang: Or we can just change that to updates. I feel like insights. We already send that in slack, anyway.

198 00:18:43.680 00:18:48.469 Hannah Wang: like, Oh, this new tool, or like this new thing, you know.

199 00:18:48.800 00:18:56.170 Amber Lin: Yeah. Oh, gosh! My notion is super stuck. I’m gonna use the browser version.

200 00:18:56.170 00:18:56.870 Hannah Wang: Okay.

201 00:18:57.120 00:18:58.040 Amber Lin: Yeah.

202 00:18:59.380 00:19:03.190 Amber Lin: Oh.

203 00:19:17.270 00:19:19.019 Amber Lin: oh, oh, oh.

204 00:19:22.050 00:19:25.179 Amber Lin: so we should

205 00:19:28.310 00:19:29.670 Amber Lin: like for the

206 00:19:30.650 00:19:47.320 Amber Lin: for the number one. I was imagining this kind of like a newsletter kind of here are the main things that happened this week in the industry and in the world. We could do like internal updates, but I feel like it overlaps with the

207 00:19:49.703 00:19:51.750 Amber Lin: lightning. Demos.

208 00:19:53.600 00:19:54.580 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

209 00:19:56.170 00:19:59.729 Hannah Wang: Oh, I feel like people aren’t really interested in the 1st one.

210 00:20:00.370 00:20:02.480 Amber Lin: Oh, boy! Huh!

211 00:20:02.590 00:20:07.786 Hannah Wang: Or this is where my like efficient side comes out, and it’s like I’ll just get to the point.

212 00:20:08.980 00:20:11.234 Amber Lin: Then why are we doing games.

213 00:20:11.610 00:20:20.569 Hannah Wang: Game just for culture. Like to get to know the team. But we don’t have to do games but it’s just like the easiest way.

214 00:20:20.920 00:20:22.450 Amber Lin: Yeah, I want to do the game.

215 00:20:27.300 00:20:30.780 Hannah Wang: I don’t know cause I feel like I mean, we’re trying to cap

216 00:20:31.480 00:20:37.189 Hannah Wang: the time that people talk right. But I think people just end up talking a long time. So

217 00:20:37.420 00:20:43.639 Hannah Wang: I feel like Demos is kinda maybe what we should prioritize in the Friday meetings.

218 00:20:46.920 00:20:53.554 Hannah Wang: yeah, like, I don’t know, like we can just get rid of the 1st one entirely. That was just AI. So

219 00:20:55.360 00:20:57.939 Hannah Wang: I don’t know if it’s super necessary.

220 00:20:58.200 00:21:00.649 Hannah Wang: and we could just start off with the icebreaker.

221 00:21:03.490 00:21:06.959 Amber Lin: Yeah. And whoever’s not there can just skip it. It’s okay.

222 00:21:07.800 00:21:08.930 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I mean.

223 00:21:09.080 00:21:15.009 Amber Lin: And then I think a mandatory attendance, or at least tracking attendance, will just help improve that.

224 00:21:15.420 00:21:16.105 Hannah Wang: Yeah,

225 00:21:17.820 00:21:23.829 Amber Lin: Most people for them. It’s not early morning, so it’s a lot easier for them to attend.

226 00:21:23.830 00:21:30.087 Hannah Wang: Oh, that’s true. Oh, but also I feel like there’s a lot of part time people that don’t show up

227 00:21:30.710 00:21:36.020 Amber Lin: Yeah, who doesn’t cause right now I’m trying to figure out who doesn’t show up.

228 00:21:36.020 00:21:42.070 Hannah Wang: Like Sahana doesn’t come sometimes, like Pius is gone. Basically.

229 00:21:42.505 00:21:49.470 Amber Lin: Pious like, we don’t need them to come like I actually don’t want. It’s rolling off.

230 00:21:49.840 00:21:51.819 Amber Lin: So she’s not going to be here anymore.

231 00:21:51.820 00:21:53.570 Hannah Wang: So Hannah’s rolling off. Oh, okay.

232 00:21:54.217 00:21:59.570 Amber Lin: And then, Bo, I just I don’t even assign him task. I don’t think he should be there.

233 00:21:59.570 00:22:00.590 Hannah Wang: Oh, okay.

234 00:22:01.117 00:22:02.172 Amber Lin: Right now.

235 00:22:03.302 00:22:08.059 Amber Lin: Empires don’t need him to be here, either. We’re fine.

236 00:22:08.060 00:22:08.750 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

237 00:22:08.750 00:22:16.759 Amber Lin: Whoever’s left have pretty packed assignments from us, and they should come.

238 00:22:17.100 00:22:19.409 Amber Lin: I don’t know. If, like.

239 00:22:21.630 00:22:28.600 Amber Lin: yeah, I’ll I’ll send you a list of people, and then we can look at who who we want to come and who’s not coming.

240 00:22:29.930 00:22:35.779 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Okay, yes. I haven’t like paid attention to the

241 00:22:36.120 00:22:40.260 Hannah Wang: group in a while, like, who can’t comes. But we can track that.

242 00:22:42.420 00:22:43.420 Amber Lin: Oh!

243 00:22:45.400 00:22:52.070 Amber Lin: Facilitators. Breakout rooms sign up sheet recordings.

244 00:22:55.280 00:22:56.800 Amber Lin: Should we do?

245 00:22:59.210 00:23:01.389 Amber Lin: Okay, we’ll do a round of

246 00:23:01.720 00:23:04.230 Amber Lin: should we do like a Q&A.

247 00:23:05.030 00:23:06.360 Hannah Wang: Oh, at the end. Yeah.

248 00:23:06.680 00:23:07.500 Amber Lin: Yeah.

249 00:23:16.500 00:23:20.230 Amber Lin: guess we choose, like 2 or 3 from this list.

250 00:23:20.720 00:23:22.619 Amber Lin: There’s not much.

251 00:23:24.390 00:23:30.260 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I I feel like we need a process for that, too, like how to choose that.

252 00:23:30.990 00:23:32.460 Hannah Wang: Who to share.

253 00:23:33.080 00:23:38.600 Amber Lin: Yeah, but also kind of want the client to help snapshot.

254 00:23:40.310 00:23:45.600 Amber Lin: Do you think we can just use this as an opening slide? The client snapshot.

255 00:23:45.840 00:23:50.530 Amber Lin: Just do like put it there until people are in the meeting.

256 00:23:52.490 00:23:54.450 Hannah Wang: And then talk about it.

257 00:23:54.870 00:23:58.359 Amber Lin: I don’t think we even need to talk about it. It’s just like a

258 00:23:58.960 00:24:03.450 Amber Lin: red, yellow, green color for each client.

259 00:24:03.450 00:24:04.170 Hannah Wang: I don’t know.

260 00:24:04.170 00:24:08.660 Amber Lin: Have a line of text to explain what it is, and then we don’t even need to talk about it

261 00:24:09.200 00:24:13.860 Amber Lin: like cause. That’s for individual teams doesn’t really matter for people who’s not on a team.

262 00:24:14.840 00:24:18.399 Hannah Wang: So what’s the purpose of the snapshot? It’s for each person

263 00:24:18.590 00:24:21.570 Hannah Wang: to look at their client and be like, Okay.

264 00:24:21.570 00:24:21.900 Amber Lin: No.

265 00:24:21.900 00:24:22.400 Hannah Wang: We do it?

266 00:24:22.400 00:24:29.050 Amber Lin: A sense of where we’re at the organization and have a bigger level understanding of hey? Where?

267 00:24:29.160 00:24:37.839 Amber Lin: How are we doing? Because if they’re in the team. Then they get drawn in very deep. If they’re outside, it’s the team. They have no clue.

268 00:24:38.100 00:24:39.140 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like me.

269 00:24:41.743 00:24:45.210 Hannah Wang: I mean, we could even put it like

270 00:24:48.320 00:24:55.680 Hannah Wang: we can put at the end like it can be the closing slide, and we can just have it there and be like, okay, this is the health of

271 00:24:55.810 00:25:01.330 Hannah Wang: the clients. Just quickly talk about it and then

272 00:25:02.020 00:25:05.389 Hannah Wang: go to shout outs and updates kind of like what we

273 00:25:05.970 00:25:09.619 Hannah Wang: or I don’t know what we currently do. I forgot the order.

274 00:25:10.335 00:25:10.880 Hannah Wang: But.

275 00:25:10.880 00:25:13.470 Amber Lin: Sure, somewhere in the middle soon.

276 00:25:17.480 00:25:22.429 Amber Lin: Yeah, I think for the demos we should prioritize.

277 00:25:22.950 00:25:27.210 Amber Lin: Oh, like displayable products.

278 00:25:28.150 00:25:28.740 Hannah Wang: Well.

279 00:25:28.940 00:25:34.599 Amber Lin: Oh, or like internal team prod progress.

280 00:25:35.980 00:25:36.770 Amber Lin: Play.

281 00:25:36.770 00:25:37.799 Hannah Wang: I agree.

282 00:25:37.800 00:25:45.680 Amber Lin: Are this or internal team, because the client teams are just the client teams.

283 00:25:45.680 00:25:46.420 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

284 00:25:46.420 00:25:51.880 Amber Lin: They can like doesn’t matter for anyone else. That’s not on the client.

285 00:25:52.210 00:25:54.759 Amber Lin: but we can display new clients.

286 00:25:55.330 00:25:56.250 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

287 00:25:56.360 00:26:25.209 Amber Lin: Oh, do you think we should have a section where it’s like possibilities within the organization? Because me, me and Robert was talking about? Some people might want to do sales. There’s different areas that people can stretch to, I think, instead of saying, Hey, this is client, one client, 2 client, 3 we could say, here are some possible, like open roles or possible openings in the company like, who wants? Who would be interested to stretch there.

288 00:26:26.840 00:26:33.270 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I feel like, even as we demo the internal teams. We can just mention that, too. It’s like, if you’re interested in

289 00:26:33.470 00:26:41.350 Hannah Wang: this like, let the lead of that team know, or something or like let Utam know, or something.

290 00:26:41.560 00:26:42.260 Amber Lin: Yeah.

291 00:26:53.360 00:26:55.009 Amber Lin: I like that.

292 00:27:11.900 00:27:19.370 Amber Lin: because a lot of so far as I talked to most of the people, except for 2, all of them have

293 00:27:19.610 00:27:22.769 Amber Lin: stretch goals of what they want to accomplish.

294 00:27:23.370 00:27:32.440 Amber Lin: At least in the next quarter. So I think this is a great way to show them what’s possible and

295 00:27:32.900 00:27:35.110 Amber Lin: like, let them stretch.

296 00:27:35.480 00:27:36.360 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

297 00:27:36.550 00:27:40.439 Amber Lin: Department round. We kind of already have departments around.

298 00:27:41.180 00:27:47.309 Hannah Wang: Or I guess it’s just like it’s like exec updates, basically.

299 00:27:47.740 00:27:48.410 Amber Lin: Oh.

300 00:27:54.180 00:27:54.910 Amber Lin: okay.

301 00:27:59.090 00:28:04.010 Amber Lin: we’ll do a quick shot, open shot as a separate section.

302 00:28:07.830 00:28:10.209 Amber Lin: What would Q. And a. Be for.

303 00:28:12.460 00:28:17.546 Hannah Wang: I guess it’s just a time of like. If anyone has any questions they can ask it.

304 00:28:17.880 00:28:19.823 Amber Lin: Usually people say no.

305 00:28:20.310 00:28:21.450 Hannah Wang: That’s okay.

306 00:28:21.810 00:28:23.940 Hannah Wang: There doesn’t need to be questions.

307 00:28:24.380 00:28:25.130 Amber Lin: Hmm.

308 00:28:25.300 00:28:25.950 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

309 00:28:26.280 00:28:43.630 Hannah Wang: Or we can also tell that cause. I feel like a lot of people, including myself, like are shy in front of larger groups of people. So we can also mention all. If you know, you want to ask a question. But you’re too shy. You can just like message someone and ask them.

310 00:28:45.320 00:28:54.279 Amber Lin: How do you like a main problem we have right now is engagement. How do we improve engagement? Or

311 00:28:54.620 00:28:58.350 Amber Lin: what do you think are all the main problems that we’re facing right now.

312 00:28:58.500 00:29:00.139 Hannah Wang: What do you mean by engagement?

313 00:29:01.040 00:29:05.250 Amber Lin: People don’t talk, or that it’s mostly the presenter who’s talking.

314 00:29:06.500 00:29:10.290 Hannah Wang: I mean, I think that’s just that’s just

315 00:29:10.540 00:29:16.070 Hannah Wang: because people, I think are mostly introverted in this company. And I think.

316 00:29:16.820 00:29:17.250 Amber Lin: Yeah.

317 00:29:17.250 00:29:20.809 Hannah Wang: I also feel like it’s also a cultural thing, like, I think.

318 00:29:20.950 00:29:28.499 Hannah Wang: cause we have a lot of offshore, Philip, like people from Manila or the Philippines like, I feel like the culture there also affects

319 00:29:28.760 00:29:30.120 Hannah Wang: the way they

320 00:29:30.510 00:29:37.010 Hannah Wang: talk like I feel like, you know, I feel like in Asian cultures. Respect is a big thing. I think

321 00:29:37.170 00:29:48.370 Hannah Wang: people tend to not be afraid to talk because they don’t want to like disrespect, or they feel like it’s not their place to talk. So I maybe culture has a big thing to do with it, too.

322 00:29:48.480 00:29:52.979 Amber Lin: Oh, change that! Because, of course they will. They will talk with their friends.

323 00:29:52.980 00:29:53.670 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

324 00:29:53.670 00:29:56.529 Amber Lin: They’re not afraid to talk to their friends. So how do we

325 00:29:56.680 00:30:00.790 Amber Lin: change that perception? Should we even have like

326 00:30:01.140 00:30:05.980 Amber Lin: high level overviews? If we want this to feel like a friend circle.

327 00:30:07.640 00:30:13.830 Hannah Wang: I guess that goes back to what the point of this meeting is right like. What? What are we trying to accomplish

328 00:30:13.960 00:30:16.870 Hannah Wang: in the Friday meeting? Is it to

329 00:30:17.020 00:30:24.619 Hannah Wang: like share updates and demo stuff? Or or is it to build like friendship and culture.

330 00:30:25.530 00:30:28.080 Hannah Wang: or all of it? Everything.

331 00:30:31.470 00:30:34.629 Amber Lin: I. We have the option to pick and choose.

332 00:30:35.530 00:30:40.640 Amber Lin: Is for even for the demo stuff.

333 00:30:41.100 00:30:47.919 Amber Lin: If I feel like if it’s not related to them. Sometimes we maybe don’t need to show it, because when it’s demos

334 00:30:48.690 00:30:55.770 Amber Lin: or how do we even present Demos right? If we have people creating them, then

335 00:30:56.070 00:31:02.880 Amber Lin: it might be more interesting. But also it’s how they create them sometimes are very unengaging.

336 00:31:02.880 00:31:03.810 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

337 00:31:04.110 00:31:08.729 Amber Lin: So like, how do we change that?

338 00:31:09.410 00:31:17.840 Amber Lin: Because right now, apart from having the fun element and the lab share, it’s not that different from what we’re already doing.

339 00:31:18.520 00:31:22.190 Amber Lin: and we apparently know what we’re doing right now. It doesn’t do the job.

340 00:31:23.950 00:31:25.159 Hannah Wang: How do we know that.

341 00:31:26.000 00:31:30.710 Amber Lin: It’s not very, and then it ties back to the goals of it’s not really

342 00:31:30.830 00:31:33.980 Amber Lin: engaging. People be there because they have to be there.

343 00:31:34.818 00:31:38.850 Hannah Wang: It’s just a placeholder meeting for things to happen.

344 00:31:38.960 00:31:46.250 Amber Lin: I don’t think anyone remembers what go, what went on Friday meetings, or it didn’t leave them better than it came

345 00:31:46.420 00:31:47.469 Amber Lin: to it with.

346 00:31:49.160 00:31:56.359 Hannah Wang: I think, Friday. I think all hands types of meetings are difficult, because it has to cater to everyone.

347 00:31:56.500 00:31:57.430 Amber Lin: No.

348 00:32:01.450 00:32:07.890 Hannah Wang: Yeah, cause everyone’s so different. Everyone has different goals or interests.

349 00:32:08.480 00:32:15.830 Hannah Wang: So I think the reason why a lot of companies struggle with it is because it’s too broad and too

350 00:32:16.150 00:32:17.450 Hannah Wang: general.

351 00:32:18.437 00:32:21.859 Hannah Wang: It’s not like niche enough to interest people.

352 00:32:22.120 00:32:27.390 Amber Lin: That’s true, but we also only have, like 12 to 15 people.

353 00:32:29.190 00:32:34.060 Hannah Wang: But if you think about it like the people that talk the most are like the Us. People

354 00:32:34.760 00:32:58.700 Hannah Wang: like of all the people like, I think it’s mainly like the offshore people, either, because it’s super late for them, and they’re tired. Probably I feel like that’s also another reason why it’s hard for them to be engaged. If I was up at one am going to a meeting like I would zone out to like I would be off camera. I would not talk, because it’s so late.

355 00:32:59.180 00:33:02.310 Amber Lin: So we that means we should change the meeting time.

356 00:33:02.860 00:33:14.660 Hannah Wang: Yeah, but that’s hard. I guess that’s hard for pacific time. People. I I guess it’s fine for people in the in Ct or est. But

357 00:33:15.100 00:33:18.320 Hannah Wang: I guess, yeah, that’s you and me, basically. And Annie,

358 00:33:19.610 00:33:26.770 Amber Lin: See, let’s see about that. We could do like Thursday evening.

359 00:33:27.160 00:33:33.450 Amber Lin: Okay, let me check the Philippine times 2 right here. Bst 2.

360 00:33:34.800 00:33:40.510 Amber Lin: It doesn’t have to be Friday necessarily, cause

361 00:33:40.910 00:33:44.450 Amber Lin: I don’t have a problem engaging at 8 Pm.

362 00:33:45.090 00:33:50.979 Hannah Wang: I I think people or general normal people have probably engaging at one am.

363 00:33:51.700 00:33:52.240 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

364 00:33:52.240 00:33:54.299 Amber Lin: I’m gonna check here.

365 00:33:56.390 00:34:00.589 Amber Lin: Oh, gosh, okay, never mind.

366 00:34:01.180 00:34:06.699 Amber Lin: P. Okay. My 6 Am. Is through 9 pm.

367 00:34:07.190 00:34:11.800 Amber Lin: And then my like, are they even

368 00:34:11.949 00:34:22.059 Amber Lin: see my 7 Pm. Is there 10 Am. But my question is, are they even up at 10 Am. Because they sleep at 5 Am.

369 00:34:22.060 00:34:25.990 Hannah Wang: That’s true. A lot of them are already nocturnal, basically.

370 00:34:27.440 00:34:28.500 Amber Lin: So

371 00:34:30.120 00:34:41.940 Amber Lin: is it really that it’s too late? Because we have it at 8, Am. I think, or 9 am. And it’s there 11 or 12. Yeah, we have a 9 am.

372 00:34:43.870 00:34:49.889 Amber Lin: So is there 11 or 12? And technically, we can maybe move it even earlier.

373 00:34:50.300 00:34:53.719 Hannah Wang: I mean, I think it used to be at like 8 Pacific.

374 00:34:54.613 00:34:56.280 Hannah Wang: But I know there’s a.

375 00:34:57.510 00:35:02.619 Amber Lin: User client meeting that like it could be 7 like, I can make 7 work.

376 00:35:02.620 00:35:04.949 Hannah Wang: Oh, God, if I’m running the meeting

377 00:35:05.560 00:35:10.119 Hannah Wang: I might be a little okay. I can try 7, too, I guess

378 00:35:11.920 00:35:16.529 Hannah Wang: as long as I don’t AI team retro meeting. I see.

379 00:35:18.440 00:35:20.189 Amber Lin: Doesn’t really matter like those.

380 00:35:20.190 00:35:27.419 Hannah Wang: So timing, timing might not be the issue. I think it’s a matter of maybe culture and personality.

381 00:35:32.270 00:35:36.670 Hannah Wang: yeah, I mean, I do feel like us, culture and

382 00:35:37.680 00:35:41.319 Hannah Wang: the Philippines culture is quite different.

383 00:35:41.460 00:35:43.739 Hannah Wang: The lingo that they use is different.

384 00:35:45.790 00:35:50.519 Hannah Wang: Like the acronyms and kind of slang that they use is different.

385 00:35:52.504 00:36:08.210 Hannah Wang: So maybe they just don’t feel comfortable, or we like the culture from the beginning was like, Oh, just get things done. But I think now, since we’re trying to build oh, let’s be kind of friends and build teamwork culture. Maybe it’s just they’re not used to it.

386 00:36:08.360 00:36:17.180 Hannah Wang: and it’s new and maybe they’re just the type of people that want to get things done, you know, and they don’t really care for

387 00:36:17.950 00:36:19.630 Hannah Wang: really, they.

388 00:36:19.810 00:36:23.449 Amber Lin: Even just cause. I see Miguel and Casey, and.

389 00:36:24.150 00:36:25.350 Amber Lin: They’re friends.

390 00:36:25.350 00:36:26.270 Hannah Wang: That’s true.

391 00:36:26.270 00:36:35.070 Amber Lin: Laugh. I don’t think there’s a problem with having good relationships and creating that within the company. I just don’t think we have the right method.

392 00:36:36.000 00:36:42.600 Amber Lin: So right now, it’s very much the presentation.

393 00:36:43.120 00:36:52.980 Amber Lin: So maybe just to even throw away the whole presentation thing like, how do we make it so that they own it. How do we make it that people have fun?

394 00:36:54.090 00:36:57.639 Amber Lin: Right? Cause? This is the only thing we have for cultural setting.

395 00:36:58.160 00:37:01.659 Amber Lin: And I’m okay with

396 00:37:02.993 00:37:11.880 Amber Lin: moving all of the presentation and the highlight stuff in text like it doesn’t have to be in the live meeting.

397 00:37:11.880 00:37:15.220 Hannah Wang: That’s true, or we can even alternate

398 00:37:15.817 00:37:23.110 Hannah Wang: like every other week or once a month, we do Demos. But then the other 3 Fridays. We do something else.

399 00:37:23.440 00:37:24.230 Amber Lin: And.

400 00:37:25.038 00:37:33.069 Hannah Wang: I I guess. Another note I had about like Miguel and Casey being friends like, and that they don’t have a problem. I think that’s just

401 00:37:34.520 00:37:39.930 Hannah Wang: like maybe cause they’re comfortable with each other because I think with

402 00:37:40.960 00:37:57.510 Hannah Wang: I I do think people have personas that they turn on like a work persona versus like a persona they have with their partner or their close friends like it’s gonna be different. And we just talk about like I talk about different things

403 00:37:58.130 00:38:06.789 Hannah Wang: with like my close friends versus people at work. I think that’s just the nature. Sorry. What was that?

404 00:38:08.910 00:38:11.300 Hannah Wang: Sorry I was talking over you. What did you say.

405 00:38:11.320 00:38:14.120 Amber Lin: How can we create that here in the company.

406 00:38:14.120 00:38:14.930 Hannah Wang: Yeah,

407 00:38:19.150 00:38:29.290 Hannah Wang: you just have to be friends, and I think making friends takes a long time like it. It takes a while to build friendship and feel safe and comfortable around people.

408 00:38:32.060 00:38:44.430 Hannah Wang: for Miguel and Casey a lot of the faces they see. It’s they’re new. They’re new faces. So. And maybe maybe we just need to do the coffee chat thing like, maybe that’s something that we should prioritize so that they can

409 00:38:44.910 00:38:48.323 Hannah Wang: just gain exposure to everyone in the team.

410 00:38:50.681 00:38:57.109 Amber Lin: Do you think we should favor coffee chats versus the 3 to 5 people breakout rooms

411 00:38:57.520 00:38:59.279 Amber Lin: where we play the games.

412 00:39:00.150 00:39:11.330 Amber Lin: cause I don’t. I think a note on the games as well? I don’t think it should be a entire company wide game. That’s that’s where people just fall back. It probably needs to be

413 00:39:11.950 00:39:15.409 Amber Lin: smaller. Of, like 3 people, 5 people.

414 00:39:17.910 00:39:19.010 Hannah Wang: I agree.

415 00:39:29.540 00:39:37.180 Hannah Wang: I mean games. It’s more. I mean, you just get to know someone when you have a coffee chat versus a game is kind of

416 00:39:38.370 00:39:39.563 Hannah Wang: for fun.

417 00:39:44.060 00:39:45.229 Hannah Wang: I feel like

418 00:39:45.510 00:39:52.889 Hannah Wang: coffee chat will also bring its own set of challenges, because if you put 2 introverted people together

419 00:39:53.150 00:39:56.430 Hannah Wang: they won’t know what to talk about, or.

420 00:39:56.430 00:40:03.600 Amber Lin: Yeah, a a thing that I commented on one of your comments. I think we should have the chat should have a.

421 00:40:03.810 00:40:06.299 Hannah Wang: Like something they’re trying to answer.

422 00:40:07.686 00:40:13.229 Amber Lin: A prompt that they’re trying to answer, or else it’s just not gonna it’s not gonna happen.

423 00:40:13.230 00:40:15.920 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like a template or something.

424 00:40:15.920 00:40:21.719 Amber Lin: Yeah, not even a template. Maybe you know those cars that’s like 30 questions to get to know a stranger.

425 00:40:21.720 00:40:22.680 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah.

426 00:40:23.160 00:40:25.209 Hannah Wang: Just draw a card.

427 00:40:25.210 00:40:26.140 Hannah Wang: Wow.

428 00:40:26.900 00:40:30.509 Amber Lin: And then break people out randomly.

429 00:40:30.730 00:40:36.590 Amber Lin: and then they’ll figure that question out within each other, and it doesn’t like we should limit the time

430 00:40:36.940 00:40:42.440 Amber Lin: cause when the when it goes on forever is when the awkward silences start to take over.

431 00:40:43.150 00:40:45.690 Hannah Wang: Yeah, like, Max, 5 min or something.

432 00:40:54.990 00:41:02.539 Hannah Wang: Okay? So yeah, should we have like the breakout rooms? Or should we have coffee chats like outside of the Friday meeting.

433 00:41:04.930 00:41:11.940 Amber Lin: Oh, if we let them facilitate themselves, it’s not going to happen.

434 00:41:12.650 00:41:15.329 Hannah Wang: So we would need to do it. We’d need to like

435 00:41:16.120 00:41:21.410 Hannah Wang: match people, and I have like a spreadsheet or something who talked to, who.

436 00:41:21.850 00:41:23.530 Amber Lin: Yeah, at least, we just start.

437 00:41:24.180 00:41:24.780 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

438 00:41:24.780 00:41:26.670 Amber Lin: Be enforced.

439 00:41:28.080 00:41:30.970 Hannah Wang: Yeah, and then.

440 00:41:31.170 00:41:41.179 Amber Lin: And then in the future, ideally, our workflows allows them to work together, and as they work together they’ll occasionally talk about random things.

441 00:41:41.180 00:41:42.150 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

442 00:41:42.410 00:41:43.020 Amber Lin: Yeah.

443 00:41:44.000 00:41:46.379 Amber Lin: Well, where do we want to put the coffee chats?

444 00:41:48.190 00:41:49.539 Hannah Wang: Like the spreadsheet.

445 00:41:50.040 00:41:52.800 Amber Lin: No one in the Friday meeting.

446 00:41:53.870 00:42:00.269 Hannah Wang: Oh, that’s what I was asking. Should it be outside of the context of a Friday meeting, or

447 00:42:00.410 00:42:02.480 Hannah Wang: should it be within the meeting.

448 00:42:02.480 00:42:05.030 Amber Lin: I think it should be cause. It’s just 5 min.

449 00:42:05.690 00:42:08.740 Hannah Wang: Then we should do that as number one. The fun element

450 00:42:10.040 00:42:12.919 Hannah Wang: doesn’t need to be a game. We can just have people talk.

451 00:42:14.450 00:42:15.850 Amber Lin: I like the game idea, though.

452 00:42:15.850 00:42:20.559 Hannah Wang: Like the game. Oh, it’s just hard to think of a a game every time.

453 00:42:21.255 00:42:30.640 Amber Lin: We’ll we’ll circle through, and that’s where I think people can be helpful. Whoever runs the meeting has their own thing of games, that they might have liked.

454 00:42:30.640 00:42:31.610 Hannah Wang: That’s true.

455 00:42:31.900 00:42:36.910 Amber Lin: And ultimately it shouldn’t be us that’s pushing these along.

456 00:42:37.840 00:42:41.000 Hannah Wang: Yeah, although I feel like in the beginning, it will be.

457 00:42:41.440 00:42:46.159 Amber Lin: And that’s okay. We should run to a way where this will run itself.

458 00:42:47.744 00:42:51.459 Hannah Wang: Then I guess the coffee chat can be.

459 00:42:52.380 00:42:54.900 Amber Lin: And then maybe, after the lab shares.

460 00:42:58.130 00:42:59.830 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I think that makes sense.

461 00:43:00.500 00:43:05.519 Hannah Wang: because it’s like, Oh, breakout room, come back, talk another breakout room, come back.

462 00:43:20.230 00:43:21.130 Amber Lin: okay?

463 00:43:33.070 00:43:34.190 Amber Lin: Oh.

464 00:43:46.640 00:43:58.560 Amber Lin: I for the exact updates, I’m gonna give them, one, slide visuals, so, this should be

465 00:44:03.170 00:44:11.690 Amber Lin: 1 min, because ideally, how long do you think this will take fun? Element games.

466 00:44:11.690 00:44:12.450 Hannah Wang: Oh!

467 00:44:12.450 00:44:14.050 Amber Lin: 5 to 1510 min.

468 00:44:14.050 00:44:15.710 Hannah Wang: Probably 10, yeah.

469 00:44:15.710 00:44:18.630 Amber Lin: 10 min, 5 min.

470 00:44:20.010 00:44:28.339 Amber Lin: Coffee chas, gonna it’s like 5 min. Honestly, we also need buffers in between, because it never goes.

471 00:44:28.340 00:44:29.669 Hannah Wang: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

472 00:44:30.250 00:44:34.020 Amber Lin: So snapshot is gonna be.

473 00:44:34.490 00:44:35.559 Hannah Wang: 5 min.

474 00:44:36.030 00:44:36.910 Amber Lin: No.

475 00:44:37.790 00:44:38.679 Hannah Wang: 30 min!

476 00:44:38.680 00:44:40.150 Amber Lin: So 30 seconds.

477 00:44:40.150 00:44:42.740 Hannah Wang: Oh, oh, okay.

478 00:44:42.890 00:44:47.299 Amber Lin: This just this doesn’t. This is not engaging. So I just wanted to.

479 00:44:47.300 00:44:48.660 Hannah Wang: True. Yeah, it’s not.

480 00:44:50.110 00:44:50.690 Amber Lin: Yeah.

481 00:44:55.730 00:45:11.650 Amber Lin: Slash, one slide lightning, Demos, 5 ish 2 min each, like 5 wish.

482 00:45:17.430 00:45:18.850 Amber Lin: and then.

483 00:45:19.200 00:45:20.830 Hannah Wang: Max 15.

484 00:45:26.320 00:45:29.009 Amber Lin: How would that be? 15 min.

485 00:45:29.010 00:45:33.489 Hannah Wang: 3 3 clients, times 5 min, Max.

486 00:45:34.360 00:45:39.309 Amber Lin: That it could be like 2 min each. But you’re right, and that it doesn’t really happen that way.

487 00:45:42.040 00:45:47.839 Hannah Wang: People people talk like, Oh, share screen takes like 30 seconds, you know.

488 00:45:47.840 00:45:49.619 Amber Lin: Is that even engaging.

489 00:45:50.160 00:45:51.300 Hannah Wang: Sharing screen.

490 00:45:51.610 00:45:55.890 Amber Lin: Yeah. The demos. Are they engaging?

491 00:45:57.290 00:45:59.769 Hannah Wang: Depends on who’s presenting it. I guess.

492 00:46:01.530 00:46:06.270 Amber Lin: So what has been engaging and what’s not.

493 00:46:11.170 00:46:19.279 Hannah Wang: I think sometimes it’s just hard to follow along, especially if I have no context. And someone sharing like some data thing.

494 00:46:19.550 00:46:24.117 Hannah Wang: I just get confused, and then I start to zone out.

495 00:46:24.460 00:46:28.637 Amber Lin: I see, so it shouldn’t be

496 00:46:29.780 00:46:37.079 Amber Lin: like these. Demos should be like a quick snapshot unless it’s a usable thing.

497 00:46:37.080 00:46:37.930 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

498 00:46:38.400 00:46:44.440 Amber Lin: Like. I think 15 like I was thinking, 5 is total time for everything.

499 00:46:44.810 00:46:46.270 Hannah Wang: Oh, wow! Okay.

500 00:46:46.270 00:46:51.070 Amber Lin: The high, level snapshot for usable.

501 00:46:51.590 00:46:54.709 Amber Lin: No need for details.

502 00:46:55.910 00:47:02.719 Hannah Wang: I think if it’s too technical, that’s when I start to zone out a little bit.

503 00:47:02.720 00:47:04.349 Amber Lin: There’s no need for it to be.

504 00:47:04.350 00:47:05.559 Hannah Wang: Yeah, it’s not.

505 00:47:05.570 00:47:08.890 Amber Lin: Demo, and this is not like a pre. What is it.

506 00:47:08.890 00:47:10.610 Hannah Wang: Client, like, yeah. Thanks.

507 00:47:11.380 00:47:13.530 Amber Lin: So the demo should be fast.

508 00:47:15.500 00:47:16.680 Amber Lin: I’m gonna

509 00:47:20.740 00:47:28.269 Amber Lin: so that leaves us room for more things. Because right now we’re at like, what is it

510 00:47:32.180 00:47:38.929 Amber Lin: 1015, 20, and we’re on like half an hour. Ish.

511 00:47:41.110 00:47:41.840 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

512 00:47:42.560 00:47:48.750 Amber Lin: And that gives us room to added more interesting stuff.

513 00:47:50.410 00:47:54.370 Hannah Wang: Honestly, I feel like the fun element. We need more buffer

514 00:47:54.550 00:48:01.599 Hannah Wang: because, or even the coffee chat, too, like making the breakout room. That also takes a while.

515 00:48:02.040 00:48:06.459 Amber Lin: Yeah, I’ll see. This is 7. I’ll see. This is 10

516 00:48:12.060 00:48:19.290 Amber Lin: people never 2 way on time, me included.

517 00:48:19.870 00:48:21.080 Amber Lin: So

518 00:48:31.160 00:48:40.429 Amber Lin: so at this point, we’re probably at like 40 min.

519 00:48:40.840 00:48:43.550 Hannah Wang: Oh, let me try to add.

520 00:48:46.840 00:48:48.610 Hannah Wang: yeah, around there.

521 00:48:48.980 00:48:49.680 Amber Lin: Okay.

522 00:48:49.850 00:48:51.559 Amber Lin: And then this can.

523 00:48:51.880 00:48:55.590 Amber Lin: I think one thing is like, I want people to get stretched.

524 00:48:55.790 00:49:05.539 Amber Lin: And one thing is, I want people to work together like across teams. Right now, we have a lot of internal initiatives which is great.

525 00:49:07.960 00:49:16.210 Amber Lin: Maybe we can have a section where we brainstorm like how

526 00:49:17.910 00:49:23.759 Amber Lin: other people can help with your teams and maybe have the different teams post like semi

527 00:49:24.120 00:49:32.290 Amber Lin: job postings of like, hey, we we might want to ae on the ABC. Team like, who’s up for that for, like.

528 00:49:35.110 00:49:36.120 Hannah Wang: Or.

529 00:49:36.370 00:49:43.450 Amber Lin: What are some new projects we wanna do for like this team?

530 00:49:58.100 00:50:00.660 Hannah Wang: yeah, that

531 00:50:04.640 00:50:13.989 Hannah Wang: I just don’t know how to facilitate that because each team will have to think about it beforehand and then like

532 00:50:15.040 00:50:16.570 Hannah Wang: talk about it.

533 00:50:20.660 00:50:22.479 Amber Lin: Maybe that could be a channel.

534 00:50:23.350 00:50:28.659 Hannah Wang: Oh, yeah, I like that idea.

535 00:50:34.070 00:50:38.519 Amber Lin: I think that that will help people like proactively stress themselves.

536 00:50:39.530 00:50:42.239 Amber Lin: and that will make them feel a lot more fulfilled.

537 00:50:45.390 00:50:46.739 Hannah Wang: Because right now.

538 00:50:47.150 00:50:54.899 Hannah Wang: everyone’s kind of siloed and not in every slack channel. Like, I’m obviously not in a bunch of channels with client stuff.

539 00:50:55.130 00:51:05.230 Hannah Wang: So yeah, maybe a channel where it’s more transparent about stuff.

540 00:51:05.540 00:51:15.030 Amber Lin: I think, transparency. I don’t think that’s an issue. I just think people don’t look at it. We can put everything, and people just won’t look at it, so it’s more of

541 00:51:15.440 00:51:17.350 Amber Lin: how do you

542 00:51:21.800 00:51:26.620 Amber Lin: go there? Do you think we should talk, even talk about like, hey? How do you

543 00:51:27.330 00:51:30.420 Amber Lin: water, even in the stretch, possibilities of like.

544 00:51:31.060 00:51:34.120 Amber Lin: what does a path to more money look like.

545 00:51:34.370 00:51:43.829 Amber Lin: or path to working less hours, or just like eye opening stuff or things that people don’t usually talk about

546 00:51:44.400 00:51:45.120 Amber Lin: like.

547 00:51:45.820 00:51:47.720 Amber Lin: Do you think that’s a possibility.

548 00:51:50.960 00:51:53.470 Hannah Wang: In the Channel, or on the call.

549 00:51:53.650 00:51:54.260 Amber Lin: Fall.

550 00:51:55.350 00:51:59.799 Amber Lin: It’s just opening some possibilities to people that they might not have thought about

551 00:52:00.620 00:52:04.030 Amber Lin: like helping helping them. Be ambitious.

552 00:52:04.450 00:52:12.650 Amber Lin: We’re helping risk having helping them do their own goals of.

553 00:52:12.650 00:52:17.839 Hannah Wang: I mean, I think that just depends on the person too.

554 00:52:20.400 00:52:28.800 Amber Lin: Like nominate someone to share their goal if they want to.

555 00:52:29.680 00:52:36.180 Amber Lin: and we can brainstorm to the company how to support.

556 00:52:36.680 00:52:37.600 Amber Lin: But.

557 00:52:41.260 00:52:46.439 Hannah Wang: Yeah, some people might might not be comfortable sharing, though in front of everyone.

558 00:52:46.460 00:52:54.370 Amber Lin: Okay, like, there’s people who say a wish. He wants to be a tech lead.

559 00:52:54.590 00:52:55.440 Hannah Wang: Hmm.

560 00:52:55.440 00:53:00.680 Amber Lin: He’s gonna lead some of the more junior folks. So I think he’s a person that would share.

561 00:53:00.780 00:53:05.960 Amber Lin: But, hey, like I, I had this ambition. Here’s

562 00:53:06.540 00:53:13.159 Amber Lin: and then here’s how I want to move forward and people get inspired like, Hey, I didn’t think I could do that.

563 00:53:13.300 00:53:13.700 Hannah Wang: Hmm.

564 00:53:13.700 00:53:16.900 Amber Lin: I never thought about what I want to do for my career.

565 00:53:17.160 00:53:18.000 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

566 00:53:18.240 00:53:18.900 Amber Lin: Yeah.

567 00:53:20.080 00:53:26.010 Hannah Wang: Yeah, we can try it out. I mean, with all of these, we can just try it out and evolve it

568 00:53:26.730 00:53:30.239 Hannah Wang: So it doesn’t need to be perfect on the 1st try.

569 00:53:31.110 00:53:32.550 Amber Lin: Yeah, okay.

570 00:53:35.100 00:53:38.230 Hannah Wang: Sounds good like 10 min. Probably.

571 00:53:39.080 00:53:39.530 Amber Lin: Oh, yeah.

572 00:53:39.530 00:53:40.310 Hannah Wang: 7.

573 00:53:41.240 00:53:43.569 Amber Lin: Let’s say 10 as a buffer.

574 00:53:43.570 00:53:44.340 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

575 00:53:44.340 00:53:48.290 Amber Lin: And then open. Shoutouts usually take like 5 min.

576 00:53:48.290 00:53:48.915 Hannah Wang: Yeah,

577 00:53:49.730 00:53:54.530 Amber Lin: That’s good. And then 5, 10 min in closing.

578 00:53:55.040 00:53:56.070 Amber Lin: Yeah. Good.

579 00:53:58.950 00:53:59.800 Amber Lin: Okay.

580 00:54:05.930 00:54:08.920 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I think this is a good start.

581 00:54:08.920 00:54:13.069 Amber Lin: Stuff is less related to culture.

582 00:54:16.680 00:54:20.000 Amber Lin: And yeah, sounds good.

583 00:54:23.910 00:54:26.010 Hannah Wang: Okay. Yeah.

584 00:54:26.010 00:54:28.989 Amber Lin: Give me a call. I need to hop through a new one.

585 00:54:29.230 00:54:35.119 Hannah Wang: Okay, do you wanna discuss like next steps? Async, just like.

586 00:54:35.410 00:54:38.355 Amber Lin: Some next steps. We still have 4 min like Oh.

587 00:54:39.450 00:54:45.910 Hannah Wang: Stuff, I guess. Like, who like, I guess, who’s gonna run

588 00:54:46.120 00:54:55.209 Hannah Wang: or like how to coordinate the lab, share like, make a spreadsheet and send it to the team, or, yeah, like, who’s gonna I guess I can do it.

589 00:54:55.771 00:55:02.259 Hannah Wang: Like the lab shared spreadsheet thing. I don’t know if excel is the best. I don’t really know my.

590 00:55:02.260 00:55:03.700 Amber Lin: Google Sheet, probably.

591 00:55:03.700 00:55:08.829 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah, sorry. I meant to say, Google sheet and then.

592 00:55:11.330 00:55:17.070 Hannah Wang: yeah, like, who’s gonna run? I guess tomorrow is a bit soon.

593 00:55:17.340 00:55:19.819 Hannah Wang: So maybe we can start this next week.

594 00:55:19.940 00:55:20.930 Hannah Wang: Let me.

595 00:55:21.070 00:55:29.359 Amber Lin: We can make I can share. But I’m already the person who talks a lot sometimes try and share.

596 00:55:29.570 00:55:33.460 Hannah Wang: Oh, no, I meant like, I guess this whole

597 00:55:33.580 00:55:39.220 Hannah Wang: meeting like, should we run it starting tomorrow or next week?

598 00:55:39.220 00:55:41.850 Amber Lin: Why why not right? Why not?

599 00:55:45.140 00:55:48.230 Hannah Wang: I just. I’m just. I just like to plan. So

600 00:55:49.258 00:55:51.889 Hannah Wang: tomorrow seems a bit soon. But.

601 00:55:52.687 00:55:57.250 Amber Lin: For the Demos cause. What is there to prepare

602 00:55:57.690 00:56:00.400 Amber Lin: right now? Uta and Robert just talks.

603 00:56:02.164 00:56:08.320 Hannah Wang: Like the coming up with a game. I guess that doesn’t take that long. Okay?

604 00:56:08.510 00:56:11.299 Hannah Wang: Or even like the client. Okay? Sure.

605 00:56:12.830 00:56:16.969 Amber Lin: Like that we fill out, and we we can just talk about it, for now.

606 00:56:16.970 00:56:17.770 Hannah Wang: Okay.

607 00:56:17.930 00:56:20.240 Amber Lin: We’ll just well.

608 00:56:20.690 00:56:24.040 Hannah Wang: Copy and paste all these teams that we listed out.

609 00:56:24.040 00:56:24.560 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

610 00:56:24.820 00:56:26.320 Amber Lin: Color it. That’s it.

611 00:56:27.430 00:56:34.270 Hannah Wang: I guess there’s already a slide for it, anyway, like the client.

612 00:56:34.270 00:56:41.039 Amber Lin: Is knowing what Demo we want to share, which this week is probably going to be the data platform and the AI team.

613 00:56:41.310 00:56:42.200 Hannah Wang: Okay.

614 00:56:42.490 00:56:46.119 Amber Lin: And exec updates. It’s not for us.

615 00:56:46.390 00:56:50.480 Amber Lin: We just need to time box their present like how much they talk.

616 00:56:50.790 00:56:56.599 Amber Lin: And then like stretch possibilities. We’ll just like, write out a slide

617 00:56:56.930 00:57:02.570 Amber Lin: where we’ll ask Utam or Robert to just dump some ideas or possibilities.

618 00:57:03.280 00:57:05.590 Amber Lin: shout outs. We don’t need anything.

619 00:57:06.150 00:57:09.609 Amber Lin: Coffee chat is just random room assignments.

620 00:57:13.020 00:57:15.379 Amber Lin: I guess the only thing is this.

621 00:57:17.700 00:57:19.179 Hannah Wang: This lecture?

622 00:57:20.350 00:57:20.970 Hannah Wang: Yeah.

623 00:57:24.250 00:57:24.840 Amber Lin: Cool.

624 00:57:25.110 00:57:40.719 Hannah Wang: Okay. No. This is the difference between your P. And my J, like my J, like planning your versus your P. You’re like more flexible, which I wish I was. So. This is a clear like example of that, I think, just like personality, wise.

625 00:57:41.177 00:57:43.920 Amber Lin: I can make this more structured.

626 00:57:44.080 00:57:54.007 Hannah Wang: Oh, no, no! I meant like the fact that I don’t wanna do it starting tomorrow. But you’re like chill with it. I think that’s just a perfect example of A. J. Versus P.

627 00:57:54.300 00:57:55.609 Amber Lin: Yes, and see.

628 00:57:55.610 00:58:01.230 Hannah Wang: Yeah, cool. I’ll leave the game to you because I don’t play games.

629 00:58:01.230 00:58:05.590 Hannah Wang: Bro, I don’t. I don’t play that many games either. But okay, I’ll think about it. Yeah.

630 00:58:05.790 00:58:07.579 Amber Lin: Search it. We’ll just search online.

631 00:58:07.580 00:58:10.960 Hannah Wang: Yeah, I.

632 00:58:12.930 00:58:20.899 Amber Lin: The Educo Educational component like, I’ll spit something. I’ll spit something out if I need.

633 00:58:21.050 00:58:34.010 Hannah Wang: Okay, yeah, I’ll make the slides, and then I’ll also send this agenda to the Brainforge Culture Channel. Do you think that’s the best place to send it and be like what we’re thinking. Okay?

634 00:58:34.210 00:58:40.067 Hannah Wang: And then I’ll ask you, Tom or Robert, to kind of fill in the stretch and also time box them.

635 00:58:41.710 00:58:42.590 Amber Lin: Awesome.

636 00:58:42.590 00:58:45.700 Hannah Wang: Okay, thanks. Amber for initiating this.

637 00:58:46.120 00:58:50.190 Hannah Wang: of course. Thank you for helping out this together.

638 00:58:50.360 00:58:53.199 Hannah Wang: Yeah, okay, okay, hey? Talk on slack.