Meeting Title: Uttam_Mariane Date: 2025-03-21 Meeting participants: Mariane Cequina, Uttam Kumaran


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1 00:00:03.650 00:00:05.279 Mariane Cequina: That’s too bright

2 00:14:31.990 00:14:32.720 Uttam Kumaran: We’re in

3 00:14:35.860 00:14:37.070 Mariane Cequina: Hello! Hello!

4 00:14:37.110 00:14:37.930 Uttam Kumaran: Hi

5 00:14:38.670 00:14:39.610 Mariane Cequina: Hi

6 00:14:39.970 00:14:41.080 Uttam Kumaran: Hey! How are you?

7 00:14:41.410 00:14:42.470 Mariane Cequina: I’m doing good.

8 00:14:44.080 00:14:53.089 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. Well, I’m really happy to to take the time. Yeah, I wanted to just catch up and sort of

9 00:14:54.920 00:14:59.829 Uttam Kumaran: just ask a couple of questions about how things are going. I have a couple of

10 00:15:00.000 00:15:08.919 Uttam Kumaran: maybe like a template. That we could probably use for this meeting going forward. But yeah, maybe. Just how’s everything going? How are you feeling?

11 00:15:09.760 00:15:10.580 Uttam Kumaran: yeah.

12 00:15:11.830 00:15:34.500 Mariane Cequina: It’s actually good. And yeah, cause cause right now I’m working with Nico. So whenever I have question, I’ll just reach out to him. And then, whenever you have question, he will reach out to me. And yeah, so there are a lot of things that we still need to improve in terms of, I’d say organization. But we’re working on it. I mean organization, and how how we will conduct the operations work. Yeah.

13 00:15:35.940 00:15:41.739 Uttam Kumaran: Cool. What’s been like what’s been the best part? What’s been like more difficult out of everything

14 00:15:43.230 00:15:46.157 Mariane Cequina: As of now, can I think of difficult, maybe.

15 00:15:46.810 00:15:55.000 Mariane Cequina: Maybe. Since we’re we’re trying to work on like, for example, like automation. And sometimes

16 00:15:55.250 00:16:09.850 Mariane Cequina: we don’t know how to start it, like, yeah, whenever whenever we, whenever, when Nico and I will have a meeting like we don’t know where’s that like the head, start something like that. So I think that’s the difficult part. And then.

17 00:16:10.170 00:16:13.060 Mariane Cequina: yeah, I think I think that’s the only difficult part that I can think of

18 00:16:13.970 00:16:16.627 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. How are you? How do you feel like you’re doing?

19 00:16:17.220 00:16:19.999 Uttam Kumaran: in terms of in terms of time?

20 00:16:21.040 00:16:21.860 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, I’m.

21 00:16:22.080 00:16:23.349 Mariane Cequina: It’s just okay.

22 00:16:25.970 00:16:33.370 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah, I guess. Can you expand on that like, what? What do you think is going well in terms of your time? Do you think your time is spent efficiently

23 00:16:35.440 00:16:39.730 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, I I think it’s actually good. And

24 00:16:41.840 00:16:46.850 Mariane Cequina: yeah, I cannot think of any. But it’s actually good in my for me.

25 00:16:47.320 00:16:55.237 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, cool. I mean, I guess one thing that I wanted to start

26 00:16:56.080 00:17:00.870 Uttam Kumaran: doing is sort of like, I have this like sort of template for

27 00:17:01.040 00:17:04.660 Uttam Kumaran: a 1 on one document that I I really like. Let me

28 00:17:04.869 00:17:07.640 Uttam Kumaran: let me just get it over to you.

29 00:17:08.390 00:17:11.430 Uttam Kumaran: And so we can work on this.

30 00:18:59.590 00:19:03.800 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, let me know when you can see.

31 00:19:05.050 00:19:06.430 Uttam Kumaran: This document

32 00:19:07.540 00:19:08.240 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

33 00:19:15.130 00:19:16.950 Mariane Cequina: okay, yeah. I can see it. Now.

34 00:19:18.040 00:19:22.441 Uttam Kumaran: So this is a a process that I’m gonna start going through with

35 00:19:23.010 00:19:26.039 Uttam Kumaran: with everyone sort of when we chat one on one

36 00:19:26.230 00:19:26.620 Mariane Cequina: On base.

37 00:19:26.620 00:19:32.160 Uttam Kumaran: Basically, the goal here is that each of us sort of takes some time to

38 00:19:33.850 00:19:36.190 Uttam Kumaran: just talk about each other

39 00:19:36.390 00:19:49.399 Uttam Kumaran: like from your perspective. How are you doing? How are you? How are you doing? How is? How is the company doing? How do you think the company is doing? How do you think your department is doing? And then how do you think? I’m how do you think?

40 00:19:49.940 00:19:54.189 Uttam Kumaran: you’re? How do you think you’re doing in terms of being a a team member.

41 00:19:54.420 00:19:59.979 Uttam Kumaran: and then the last piece is sort of guidance like for this week, which is like or this next few weeks.

42 00:20:00.240 00:20:01.850 Uttam Kumaran: which is

43 00:20:04.390 00:20:11.941 Uttam Kumaran: to provide guidance for each of us on what we should, what we like and what we wish that each other would do.

44 00:20:12.890 00:20:15.980 Uttam Kumaran: So this one.

45 00:20:17.540 00:20:19.830 Uttam Kumaran: So I think today, maybe we can.

46 00:20:20.270 00:20:29.399 Uttam Kumaran: we can go through today and just fill this out together and then maybe going forward, I’ll send this over, you know, copy, and we can begin to

47 00:20:29.760 00:20:33.430 Uttam Kumaran: to to have this prepared, you know, for each of our meetings.

48 00:20:33.540 00:20:36.629 Uttam Kumaran: But really like, I guess maybe we’ll start at the top. So

49 00:20:37.540 00:20:39.859 Uttam Kumaran: I guess maybe if you want to start

50 00:20:41.309 00:20:56.360 Uttam Kumaran: this is a section is for you to fill out, which is what is, what do you feel like about yourself? That’s good, not so good. And then I will also. I could also fill this out, and maybe if you want to take them. Take a minute, and we can talk

51 00:20:56.820 00:20:57.440 Mariane Cequina: Hmm!

52 00:20:57.630 00:20:59.989 Mariane Cequina: Should I write it down, or can I just like

53 00:21:00.360 00:21:01.879 Uttam Kumaran: Like. Say it.

54 00:21:02.734 00:21:09.070 Uttam Kumaran: I would prefer if you write it down, but we can. You can also say it, and we can come back and write it down. That’s fine.

55 00:21:09.070 00:21:11.830 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, and then just gonna send it afterwards.

56 00:21:12.010 00:21:13.200 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, okay, perfect.

57 00:21:13.640 00:21:20.740 Mariane Cequina: Okay. So for me, the good part is like, whenever I have

58 00:21:21.030 00:21:36.599 Mariane Cequina: like a sudden request, I can do that, and I’m very much flexible. And sometimes, whenever we have like meetings even, it’s way too late for me. I’m very flexible on that. I think that’s a good part. Not so good. Let’s say, what?

59 00:21:36.700 00:21:44.069 Mariane Cequina: Maybe my like this is something that I I planning to do in the future is like.

60 00:21:44.360 00:21:48.110 Mariane Cequina: I’m being more intuitive initiative.

61 00:21:48.750 00:21:54.680 Mariane Cequina: because I always wanted to ask for like requirements, because I’m not really quite sure.

62 00:21:54.820 00:22:01.410 Mariane Cequina: Yeah. So so maybe it’s more like being independent, I’d say, and having more like.

63 00:22:01.520 00:22:03.970 Mariane Cequina: more independent. Yeah, maybe it’s more than that.

64 00:22:05.530 00:22:08.720 Uttam Kumaran: It’s a really good you know. Thought I feel I feel

65 00:22:08.890 00:22:20.520 Uttam Kumaran: pretty similar, I think. Good. Is that I think you’re very diligent and and want to be

66 00:22:20.730 00:22:26.229 Uttam Kumaran: very organized. I think also, I can rel you’re really reliable, like I can rely

67 00:22:29.490 00:22:31.439 Uttam Kumaran: for anything we need.

68 00:22:31.780 00:22:35.170 Uttam Kumaran: I think, definitely on the, on the

69 00:22:35.540 00:22:38.159 Uttam Kumaran: where. I think there’s opportunity. Is that

70 00:22:38.736 00:22:44.820 Uttam Kumaran: I think you can actually start to become like the operations lead.

71 00:22:44.920 00:22:55.450 Uttam Kumaran: Like, I think you can. Actually, you actually know a lot about our company processes. And I think I I would love to see that you actually start to propose opportunities for us to

72 00:22:56.150 00:22:59.840 Uttam Kumaran: improve or add more operations or things like that

73 00:23:00.440 00:23:01.060 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

74 00:23:06.170 00:23:07.699 Uttam Kumaran: Does that make sense

75 00:23:07.950 00:23:09.390 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, that. Totally.

76 00:23:09.990 00:23:19.790 Uttam Kumaran: So in terms of like takeaways there, I mean, yeah, I think the biggest thing that I think about is, how can I start to

77 00:23:20.420 00:23:27.209 Uttam Kumaran: lean on on on you for planning

78 00:23:27.860 00:23:28.230 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

79 00:23:28.230 00:23:41.909 Uttam Kumaran: Right, and even in even in even in even in this meeting. Right? I I will. I want this to be a meeting that you lead right? You tell me, hey? I’m doing good here. I need help here. I think you could be better here right? And so

80 00:23:41.910 00:23:42.310 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

81 00:23:42.310 00:23:46.770 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna start to see you become into that operations leader

82 00:23:47.529 00:24:00.820 Uttam Kumaran: and start to own these processes, and how we do things and and find ways. Go, go, reach out to Vishnu book time find ways to improve right? All those things that I’m I’m currently doing.

83 00:24:00.990 00:24:05.530 Uttam Kumaran: I want to make sure that you know that you can go. Do yourself 100

84 00:24:05.850 00:24:06.550 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

85 00:24:11.200 00:24:16.340 Uttam Kumaran: Great. Okay? And then tell me about your perspective on the company, the department.

86 00:24:16.530 00:24:21.680 Uttam Kumaran: And then and then,

87 00:24:22.740 00:24:31.109 Uttam Kumaran: yeah, just like, I think this kind of covers you kind of mentioned some personal comments overall. But yeah, give me. Tell me about this next section

88 00:24:32.320 00:24:41.050 Mariane Cequina: For the company, I’d say the good part is, you always make sure, like, like everyone’s trying to make sure to create like a close relationship

89 00:24:41.460 00:25:07.206 Mariane Cequina: in in the company. Even, we work remotely like you, taking time to talk to each member. Every 3 weeks. So I really appreciate that. And the good part, I say, is, it’s pretty crazy, because we always, I mean, you guys always like adopt the new trends like a sponge like you always wanted to improve, and you never settle. So something like, just because it works, you’re gonna settle on that one like you’re always trying to to

90 00:25:07.590 00:25:21.839 Mariane Cequina: improve. And yeah, it’s it’s actually like inspiring in in every part. The not so good. I think, because this is actually like we’re starting off. This is start up actually. And

91 00:25:22.410 00:25:28.930 Mariane Cequina: I think it’s more like the organization in terms. For example, in operation, there are a lot of things that

92 00:25:29.100 00:25:41.290 Mariane Cequina: that we still need to have like a clarification. I’d say, like, like, Yeah, it’s more like that. So for example, in in calendar, if it’s just for a simple thing like you creating

93 00:25:41.290 00:26:04.850 Mariane Cequina: like the schedule. So maybe we can handle that. For example, like things like, it’s more like the clarification. And then, yeah, it’s more like the clarification. I think that’s also the reason why we always like me. Personally, I always have to ask for permission 1st and things like that. So? So we’re really looking forward. We also wanted that in that in the future that we we became more independent on operation sites instead of

94 00:26:04.850 00:26:14.260 Mariane Cequina: bombarding you all the time, because that’s the reason why you hired us. So in that way you can focus more. And what’s more important, and gives more impact in the company

95 00:26:15.300 00:26:17.442 Uttam Kumaran: No, that that’s actually very, very

96 00:26:18.170 00:26:21.399 Uttam Kumaran: helpful to hear. I mean, I I think a lot about

97 00:26:23.410 00:26:28.639 Uttam Kumaran: I think a lot about that. And I, you know, I appreciate the the fact that we’re

98 00:26:28.790 00:26:37.151 Uttam Kumaran: we always learn. And you’re definitely part of that. You know, it’s like we’re using all brand new tools, modern tools to do everything. And I want to see us.

99 00:26:37.600 00:26:43.169 Uttam Kumaran: I wanna see us. I want to see us grow, you know. And so

100 00:26:43.470 00:26:51.549 Uttam Kumaran: I I’m I’m really excited. You know that that you can identify that. I think you’re totally right here. I think

101 00:26:51.990 00:26:56.259 Uttam Kumaran: my takeaway for your note is that

102 00:26:57.780 00:26:59.419 Uttam Kumaran: I need to hand off more

103 00:27:02.040 00:27:09.810 Uttam Kumaran: and work with operations. The document to document and do stand up. Do do planning.

104 00:27:10.693 00:27:15.879 Uttam Kumaran: That’s something that I’ve just have not had the time to do. You know my schedule? So I think

105 00:27:15.880 00:27:16.410 Mariane Cequina: Yeah.

106 00:27:16.410 00:27:20.139 Uttam Kumaran: Starting on Monday. We’re going to spend more time.

107 00:27:21.440 00:27:26.150 Uttam Kumaran: do we’re gonna spend more time, you relying on linear to do planning.

108 00:27:26.420 00:27:33.810 Uttam Kumaran: having tickets in there, starting to document everything. But this is where again, in even in those meetings, I’m

109 00:27:33.970 00:27:38.330 Uttam Kumaran: I’m I will drive in that. I’ll try to get everyone there. But I want

110 00:27:38.640 00:27:54.490 Uttam Kumaran: you guys will ultimately be executing. And so I want to make sure that you have an opinion. And you know you mentioned, yeah, I sort of don’t want to speak up like that’s exactly. I think. Another point is, I want to hear from you, and your opinion really matters. You’re one of the few people that knows

111 00:27:54.520 00:28:19.919 Uttam Kumaran: a lot about the company, right? Every person interacts with you when they join. You know where to tell the teams like you have a super super high amount of leverage. And that’s really really amazing. And so I want to lean on you. I want you to take ownership of things, communicate with the team. People really respect you and want to work with you. So that’s that. That is a that’s a really really amazing thing, you know.

112 00:28:21.390 00:28:23.200 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m looking forward to that

113 00:28:23.690 00:28:25.198 Mariane Cequina: Okay, thank you for that.

114 00:28:26.810 00:28:35.420 Uttam Kumaran: And then, in terms of this coming week. Yeah, anything you’d like me to know in terms of

115 00:28:36.732 00:28:41.110 Uttam Kumaran: guidance for this next week.

116 00:28:42.950 00:28:51.559 Uttam Kumaran: You know that that you’d like that, that you’re liking the direction it’s going that you prefer. I do let me know

117 00:28:52.980 00:29:08.080 Mariane Cequina: I’d say it’s more like, as I mentioned a while ago, it’s more like the Clarification essay because we have a lot of plan. And I I’d say, idea that doesn’t that we still yet to plan those things, to turn it into like reality.

118 00:29:08.190 00:29:09.850 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, I think that that’s it.

119 00:29:10.590 00:29:12.769 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, anything that you’d wish.

120 00:29:13.190 00:29:21.670 Uttam Kumaran: anything that you’d like, anything else you wish that we would do, or even at at the company level, for anybody else in the company that you’d wish we do

121 00:29:23.030 00:29:24.860 Mariane Cequina: Hmm, okay. Oh.

122 00:29:30.230 00:29:44.420 Mariane Cequina: I don’t know. The only thing that I can think of that I can spot on is really ron like the clarification of direction. I think that’s that’s pretty the only thing that’s on my mind, actually. But I understand it because you’re really quite busy.

123 00:29:44.590 00:29:50.799 Mariane Cequina: I’d say so I wish that in the future, perhaps, that we can have someone

124 00:29:50.900 00:29:53.989 Mariane Cequina: like who can be like more like the extension

125 00:29:53.990 00:29:54.550 Uttam Kumaran: Are available.

126 00:29:54.920 00:29:59.489 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, yeah, because you’re all over the place. And I understand that.

127 00:29:59.800 00:30:09.450 Mariane Cequina: like, you’re handling like in every aspect of the of the brain forge. So yeah, it’s like you’re into sales and engineering like you’re all over the place, I’d say so. I understand that

128 00:30:10.930 00:30:20.929 Uttam Kumaran: That makes sense. I mean, I I also agree. This is where I will push back and actually say, I think you can. You’re not that far from what I know

129 00:30:21.160 00:30:28.279 Uttam Kumaran: like. And I do think that this is where. Yeah, you could think, hey, maybe we need someone else to come lead. But I want to start to push

130 00:30:28.520 00:30:33.260 Uttam Kumaran: you to say, Hey, maybe I know what needs to happen here, and I can execute

131 00:30:33.770 00:30:34.679 Mariane Cequina: Okay. Okay.

132 00:30:34.680 00:30:41.169 Uttam Kumaran: And so I think that’s where always I’m gonna push back on saying, Hey, we need another person.

133 00:30:41.320 00:30:45.240 Uttam Kumaran: In fact, I think we you already have a lot of the skill set that

134 00:30:45.540 00:31:14.169 Uttam Kumaran: that it’s needed to to do what I know, which is just like, what do we plan things like that. And so that’s why. Over the next few weeks, as we work as a sprint team, I’ll start to rely on on the team more to help me plan out tickets. And and ideally, you’ll start to be able to lead those meetings right? Because if we hire another operations person, I’m gonna they’re gonna work for you like I’m not. Gonna they’re not gonna be on like, I’m not gonna

135 00:31:14.330 00:31:22.290 Uttam Kumaran: I I’m not gonna expect to manage their day to day. And so I want to make sure that any resources you need you have, and that you can lead that for sure.

136 00:31:22.680 00:31:23.380 Mariane Cequina: Thank you.

137 00:31:25.250 00:31:40.659 Uttam Kumaran: And then I guess my last question is, tell me about I know we talked a little bit about your time, so tell me about how much time you’re spending now per week and like, you know, how do you feel about that? Do you think you can spend more time? What do you think

138 00:31:41.590 00:31:50.270 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, the average that I spend per week is around 25. If I remember correctly. Yeah, I’m I’m I’m free to to

139 00:31:50.610 00:31:57.199 Mariane Cequina: to have more hours, I’d say, but I don’t want to put it in my clock if I like. I’m spending this hours when I’m just spending this hour

140 00:31:57.600 00:31:58.320 Uttam Kumaran: I see.

141 00:31:58.470 00:32:02.720 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah. So I mean, I would prefer that if if we have.

142 00:32:02.840 00:32:20.390 Uttam Kumaran: we have 40 h of work that you can go after that right? So I would say at this point, like, I’m open to you, going up to that level to give you a sense of like. What we can do is I would like to see for the next month that you’re able to

143 00:32:20.570 00:32:25.419 Uttam Kumaran: spend an additional 20 h and take on some of the tasks that we have in the backlog.

144 00:32:26.090 00:32:34.080 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, so I’m gonna put a couple of notes here. So Marianne, to expand hours.

145 00:32:34.840 00:32:38.060 Uttam Kumaran: Do, Max, 40

146 00:32:38.060 00:32:46.230 Mariane Cequina: Would would it be okay for me if I reach out, for example, to project Manager and then ask them if I can also help them. And things like that

147 00:32:46.980 00:32:54.380 Uttam Kumaran: Yes, so so I think my point there would be everything should get into the linear board

148 00:32:54.920 00:33:01.179 Mariane Cequina: But totally feel free. Like, if you reach out to people. And you’re like hey, how can I help and you join other team meetings

149 00:33:01.620 00:33:06.340 Uttam Kumaran: And then you’re like, Okay, cool. I have all these things. Put it in linear. And then, yeah, you’re you’re more than

150 00:33:06.600 00:33:08.819 Uttam Kumaran: you’re more than free to execute on those

151 00:33:08.820 00:33:09.520 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

152 00:33:12.080 00:33:19.400 Uttam Kumaran: So I’m gonna put this, go direct the team to build backlog of items.

153 00:33:19.630 00:33:28.479 Uttam Kumaran: And then the other thing I’m gonna say is, let’s let’s catch up the next time. And

154 00:33:29.220 00:33:38.160 Uttam Kumaran: if you’re if and we’ll let’s talk about, because I think if you’re able to consistently work 2040 HI think we’re we’re open to switching over to salary

155 00:33:39.053 00:33:42.570 Uttam Kumaran: and that’s sort of for all of our folks. I I wanna

156 00:33:42.770 00:34:08.539 Uttam Kumaran: for all of our folks that have been here for a while. We’re starting to grow. So I want to invest more into into everyone that’s helped us out here, and I don’t want to hire. I don’t want to hire more operations, folks. I want to give as much as as I can to you. And so feel free like, I want to see you expand to 40 HI want to see you go direct to the team to build items and execute.

157 00:34:08.659 00:34:12.280 Uttam Kumaran: and then let’s let’s catch up again when we talk.

158 00:34:12.690 00:34:16.159 Uttam Kumaran: I mean, we’re gonna talk all the time. But when we talk one on one in a few weeks.

159 00:34:16.330 00:34:26.950 Uttam Kumaran: and let’s see how it how it went. If you feel like, okay, cool, I can consistently do 40 h. And let’s we can talk about you know, options for salary at that point

160 00:34:27.360 00:34:28.720 Mariane Cequina: Okay, know that

161 00:34:32.830 00:34:47.169 Uttam Kumaran: How do you feel about that? Like I? I remember when when you 1st joined, and you know we didn’t have much money, so I just asked for what was possible. I think now I definitely want to see you take more of a of a leadership role there.

162 00:34:47.981 00:34:51.239 Uttam Kumaran: And own what’s going on?

163 00:34:51.666 00:34:58.939 Uttam Kumaran: But how do you feel about that? And how do you feel about? You know this meeting and anything before we hop off

164 00:34:59.610 00:35:04.229 Mariane Cequina: Essentially pretty amazing. And there, that’s also the reason why I love staying here.

165 00:35:04.718 00:35:14.230 Mariane Cequina: Because I I can see that this is really a promising startup company. And I know that in the future this is this is will be more than just a startup. Yeah.

166 00:35:14.350 00:35:17.990 Mariane Cequina: So I can see this really promising? Genuinely so, yeah.

167 00:35:18.620 00:35:19.849 Uttam Kumaran: Awesome. Thank you.

168 00:35:21.900 00:35:25.685 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I appreciate it. Well, yeah, let’s continue to work through.

169 00:35:26.370 00:35:33.080 Uttam Kumaran: let’s continue to. I’ll I’ll well if you if you have a sec to just put your thoughts here that way. We have a log of this

170 00:35:33.470 00:35:39.870 Uttam Kumaran: Next time we talk we can do that. And then, yeah, I’m gonna I’m gonna be more involved in the operations and marketing side

171 00:35:39.870 00:35:40.250 Mariane Cequina: No.

172 00:35:40.250 00:35:43.670 Uttam Kumaran: Going forward, so I think you’ll have my support, at least in the short term.

173 00:35:43.870 00:35:44.210 Mariane Cequina: Okay.

174 00:35:44.210 00:35:48.560 Uttam Kumaran: And then, yeah, let’s let’s let’s get some wins for sure.

175 00:35:48.850 00:36:07.749 Mariane Cequina: I do have another concern. If that I mean request. Okay? Because I actually, I just wanna say, because I actually graduated with science degree. And I’m planning. I’m I’m really interested about business, etc. So I’m planning to take my post grad I need. If it will be okay for you to give me a recommendation letter, because I

176 00:36:07.750 00:36:08.600 Uttam Kumaran: 100%

177 00:36:09.070 00:36:14.999 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, but I need to, at least, so who would it be like? You’ve you? Of course you owe

178 00:36:15.360 00:36:15.780 Uttam Kumaran: Yeah.

179 00:36:15.780 00:36:18.790 Mariane Cequina: Will be like the second person, because I need at least 2

180 00:36:19.735 00:36:26.730 Uttam Kumaran: I think you could. I think you should ask Nico, I mean, who else have you worked with? Who who else do you work with the most closely in the company.

181 00:36:27.332 00:36:28.670 Mariane Cequina: It was you. And Nico, yeah.

182 00:36:28.860 00:36:30.420 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, I would ask, Nico, yeah.

183 00:36:30.420 00:36:31.350 Mariane Cequina: Okay. Thank you.

184 00:36:31.350 00:36:34.710 Uttam Kumaran: We’ll give a different perspective since he was working really directly with you.

185 00:36:34.974 00:36:42.910 Mariane Cequina: Yeah, okay, that’s cool. Okay, I give you it’s actually, we have like a format for that just gonna send it to you and also Nicole. Thank you. Thank you.

186 00:36:43.270 00:36:44.240 Uttam Kumaran: Okay, perfect.

187 00:36:45.080 00:36:47.470 Uttam Kumaran: Alright, thanks, Marianne. We’ll talk soon.

188 00:36:47.470 00:36:49.029 Mariane Cequina: Thank you. Yeah, thank you.